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As we take every thought captive (2 Corinthians 10:5), consider our perspective about the circumstances we find ourselves in, and allow ourselves to be transformed by the renewing of our minds (Romans 12:2), we posture ourselves toward an obedient heart that discovers blessings, even in hard seasons. <\/p>\n<p>In this podcast episode, Ron Deal and Gayla Grace talk about intentional ways to create a heart full of gratitude that pursues love with others and more easily moves our relationships toward connectedness.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gratitude doesn\u2019t always happen naturally in blended families, but it can move us toward unity in our relationships. 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While we strive for accuracy and quality, please note that the information provided will most likely not be entirely error-free or up-to-date. We recommend independently verifying the content with the originally-released audio. This transcript is provided for your personal use and general information purposes only. References to conferences, resources, or other special promotions may be obsolete. We do not assume any responsibility or liability for the use or interpretation of this content.\r\n\r\nSeason 6, Episode 151: Practicing Gratitude in Your Blended Family\r\n\r\nGuest:Gayla Grace\r\n\r\nAir Date: November 18, 2024\r\n\r\nGayla: I had a conversation this weekend with a stepdad who is not seeing any reward for how he's pouring into this stepchild\u2019s life. And I said, \u201cSometimes we don't see it, but it doesn't mean that they're not seeing what you are doing. They maybe just don't know how to express it really until they become young adults. Sometimes we don't gain some of those rewards where they can express it towards us.\u201d\r\n\r\nRon: Welcome to the FamilyLife Blended podcast. I'm Ron Deal. We help blended families, and those who love them, pursue the relationships that matter most. My dear friend, author and speaker Gayla Grace is again with me in the studio. \r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, good to be here, Ron.\r\n\r\nRon: So nice to have her every single time and I am already smelling the turkey.\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh my goodness. Can you believe it's that time?\r\n\r\nRon: It is, and I am hungry. We have found the best smoked turkey ever.\r\n\r\nGayla: Really.\r\n\r\nRon: And for the last few years I will invest the money and go buy this and it is incredible.\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh wow. Okay, so you have turkey, not ham.\r\n\r\nRon: We do. We do. We are turkey people.\r\n\r\nGayla: Okay.\r\n\r\nRon: Are you a ham person?\r\n\r\nGayla: We're turkey people, but we have both actually, a lot of years depending on how many people are around the table.\r\n\r\nRon: Is that a blended family story?\r\n\r\nGayla: No, not really. Just some people in my family prefer ham.\r\n\r\nRon: Okay. Yeah, they like to ham it up. Okay. Well, I'm already grateful for the seven pounds I'm going to gain over the next couple of weeks eating my wife's pumpkin spice cake and\u2014\r\n\r\nGayla: Grateful for gaining weight, Ron.\r\n\r\nRon: I'm grateful because I know how good it's going to taste.\r\n\r\nGayla: Okay, you got to explain that one.\r\n\r\nRon: I'll have to work it off, but I'm grateful for the joy that will come with that leftover barbecue turkey sandwiches. \r\n\r\nGayla: Oh, there you go. \r\n\r\nRon: See, I can already taste it.\r\n\r\nGayla: Tell her to bring some of that pumpkin spice cake to the office.\r\n\r\nRon: Oh no, because I want to eat it.\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh, you're not going to share it, okay.\r\n\r\nRon: It is to die for. \r\n\r\nGayla: Oh my gosh. \r\n\r\nRon: I'm telling you; I live for this stuff. \r\n\r\nGayla: Oh wow. \r\n\r\nRon: Okay, but speaking of gratitude, we have heard from some of our listeners who are thankful for this podcast. I'm grateful that they took the time to write to us and tell us a few things. And so, hey, listen to this Gayla. A viewer on YouTube said, \u201cI'm a regular viewer of your YouTube channel. I have seen all your videos, and your content is very good. I have learned a lot from you,\u201d from us.\r\n\r\nGayla: All your videos, wow.\r\n\r\nRon: It's fantastic. I'm just excited about that. That's what we want. FamilyLife Blended is about resourcing and investing in people.\r\n\r\nGayla: Exactly.\r\n\r\nRon: I know the Women &amp;amp; Blended Families monthly livestream you do; I know people love that. We hear from them.\r\n\r\nGayla: It's nice to be on YouTube and people be able to access this there.\r\n\r\nRon: So if you're listening or watching, by the way, you don't know what I'm talking about that Gayla does every month, every month Women &amp;amp; Blended Families livestream, and it goes out through all our social media channels. So it's on Instagram and Facebook and multiple Facebook channels and on YouTube. And if you can't catch it live and be a part of it and add comments or whatever you want to do, then you can always go back and watch them later.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right; recorded, but second Tuesday of every month, 12 noon central is when the actual live event is.\r\n\r\nRon: Love it. Okay, we had another viewer, also on YouTube, reacted to a particular episode: 134, Being a Stepparent: Is it a Blessing? This person says, \u201cAwesome message. I will soon be a stepmom with no biological children of my own. This message has humbled me about living in my own emotions and defending myself. It has given me a new approach on what God has in store for me. I believe this family is a blessing from God and he has placed me here on purpose. Thank you.\u201d\r\n\r\nGayla: I love that because the truth is it doesn't always feel like a blessing to be a stepmom. She has no biological kids of her own, so she's walking into this a little naive, but she is taking the perspective of, it's a blessing. We're going to talk about that a little bit today, Ron, about changing our perspective sometimes when we don't feel like things in our stepfamily are a blessing but that's what she's saying, and I love that.\r\n\r\nRon: I love that she's equipping herself before becoming a stepmom. We always encourage that.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right; absolutely.\r\n\r\nRon: And so if you know anybody, if you're, as a listener or viewer, if you know anybody who's dating, thinking about forming a blended family, get them in touch with our materials and resources. That's really the best time to start learning.\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh, absolutely. You're so much better off if you go in with a head full of some tools in how to do blended family life.\r\n\r\nRon: This reminds me, I had a conversation with a couple this last week where they said, \u201cWe got mad when we first started reading about The Smart Stepmom and some resources because we realized nobody had shared any of this with us,\u201d and here they were 10 years in, had made some mistakes, were trying to recover from all of that, and yeah, learn it on the front end.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yeah, it's so much harder when you're 10 years in and you're trying to recover and now you have to go back and redo and maybe apologize.\r\n\r\nRon: \u2014repair.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, it's so much harder that way.\r\n\r\nRon: We had one other person write to us, email us this time. \u201cI just listened to an episode from October regarding the Dragon method of co-parenting.\u201d Do you remember that episode? These two people that I was talking to, had this method about doing co-parenting and how you negotiate. It was really good. And this person says, \u201cI'm so excited to implement this with my very high conflict situation.\u201d\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh goodness.\r\n\r\nRon: By the way, that was episode 123. If you don't know what I'm talking about, go back and learn a little bit about the DRAGON Method. It sounds horrible, but it's really meant to be helpful. \r\n\r\nGayla: It works!\r\n\r\nRon: And so that's great. Let me just say to our viewers, and all of our listeners, we are thankful for you. We appreciate your encouragement. We appreciate you telling others about this podcast and the resources that we have at FamilyLife Blended. We pray the hand of the Lord is on you, not just this holiday season that's coming up, but always. So thank you for listening and thank you for being a part of our family, if you will.\r\n\r\nGayla: Absolutely.\r\n\r\nRon: We\u2019re going to talk about gratitude. We're going to talk some about unity today. I know at this past year's Blended and Blessed, you were one of our speakers and you talked around some of these themes.\r\n\r\nGayla: I did.\r\n\r\nRon: You want to share some of those thoughts?\r\n\r\nGayla: Yeah. So just to start, I feel like when we have a heart full of gratitude, we're much more likely to want to move toward connectedness in our relationships. Sometimes in blended families, that doesn't happen naturally. Sometimes there's things we don't feel gratitude towards. \r\n\r\nAnd for me, Ron, I go back to Romans 12:2, \u201cDon't conform to the patterns of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.\u201d The patterns of this world are selfishness, and what we want, and what works for us. And yet in blended families, if we can move more towards\u2014and this requires asking the Holy Spirit's help\u2014renewing our mind towards whatever hard dynamic is that we have that we don't feel grateful for. \r\n\r\nSo let's say for instance, even the stepmom who wrote in, and she's really trying to take a perspective of gratefulness as she steps into this family, but maybe as a stepmom you have a prickly stepchild that you don't feel grateful for. You're not moved towards unity and yet if you consider a different perspective, \u201cI'm going to ask God to help me renew my mind so that I can think about what I am grateful for in regard to the stepchild.\u201d Maybe it's things like \u201cI'm grateful for the influence that I can have as a stepmom that is different than anybody else as they pour into this child. I'm thankful for that.\u201d \u201cLord, thank you. Allow me to keep an attitude of gratitude even when it doesn't feel natural for me.\u201d\r\n\r\nRon: I love the little quote from Curt Thompson who says, \u201cPay attention to what you're paying attention to.\u201d And so if I'm paying attention to negativity about this child, boy is it a mental game. Boy, I mean this renewing your mind stuff means you have to take those negative thoughts captive. And I think I hear you saying shift to something positive. Where can you find gratitude? This is not to be turn a blind eye to hard things that are really taking place. We're not saying that.\r\n\r\nGayla: No, it's not. \r\n\r\nRon: We're not being Christianese here. What we are saying is look for something you can be grateful for because that opens your heart toward that child and maybe helps you posture yourself in a little different way when engaging with them.\r\n\r\nGayla: \u2014that leads towards connectedness. Sometimes, Ron, it might just be as simple as, \u201cI'm thankful that this hard dynamic causes me to rely on the Lord in a way that I don't otherwise.\u201d\r\n\r\nRon: Oh, wow, yes.\r\n\r\nGayla: It postures me with a surrendered heart. That's a hard one.\r\n\r\nRon: That is.\r\n\r\nGayla: But if we move down the road and we look back at things and oftentimes it's those hard dynamics that have put us in a posture of surrender to the Lord. I'm always thankful for that, in the long run. I might not be thankful for it in the minute.\r\n\r\nRon: Yes, there you go, and that's good. I think that's important to acknowledge that this can feel like, \u201cHere I go, I'm having to make another sacrifice. I'm doing all the work. Why is this not working in my benefit? What's necessary for that long-term gain?\u201d I'm just sitting here reflecting on, I've been listening, I like to listen to the Bible Project Podcast.\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh yes.\r\n\r\nRon: And viewer\/listener, if you don't know what the Bible Project is, look it up online, YouTube, and their podcast as well. It's just phenomenal stuff. And they were just talking about the golden rule and do unto others as you would have them\u2014\r\n\r\nGayla: \u2014do unto you.\r\n\r\nRon: \u2014do unto you.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right,\r\n\r\nRon: I had a little bit different interpretation. The word there is have the desires for others that you would have them to desire to do to you. Desire to do for others what you would have them desire that they do for you which connected a few dots for me. Which I found really interesting because it's the same word desire in the Lord's prayer; to say the Lord's will, God's will; it\u2019s God's desires. It's what God desires to see happen on earth and we want to have those desires as people. \r\n\r\nSo where am I going with this? If we desire good things for others, even this stepchild that you're having difficulty with, that might bring gratitude, which might then soften your heart, which might help you posture yourself a little bit differently when you engage with them. And we believe this matters, the choices we make, how we carry ourselves has influence, maybe not immediate. It doesn't immediately pull that kid around, but it might open the door, make it easier for them to change a little of who they are.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right, even if they're not expressing it. I had a conversation this weekend with a stepdad who is not seeing any reward for how he's pouring into this stepchild\u2019s life. And I said, sometimes we don't see it, but it doesn't mean that they're not seeing what you're doing. They maybe just don\u2019t know how to express it. Really until they become young adults, sometimes we don't gain some of those rewards where they can express it towards us.\r\n\r\nRon: You and I have both seen so many situations where the kids will start, I'll use the word bragging on a stepparent to their friends, to other people. They'll never say it directly to the stepparent. I shouldn't say never, at that particular season of their life\u2014\r\n\r\nGayla: Probably not.\r\n\r\nRon: \u2014they won't, but they'll say it to somebody else. And yeah, there's a reason why it's hard to be direct with it, but that doesn't mean their gratitude is not there for you.\r\n\r\nGayla: And just always know God is working behind those scenes too in things that we may not see happening.\r\n\r\nRon: Was there anything else that you wanted to share with us?\r\n\r\nGayla: I think that was the biggest point was the perspective. Sometimes it requires a change in perspective for us, and to be aware of what you're thinking of. Because if the negative perspective fills our hearts, it's going to spill out things that we don't want.\r\n\r\nRon: So let's connect this gratitude thing with unity. That's what you want in your family. Viewer\/listener, that's what you want. You're going for unity, harmony, right? You want cohesiveness. You want people to feel safe and loved and cared for and all of that. And I do think how we posture ourselves either with gratitude or what's the alternative? If not with gratitude\u2014\r\n\r\nGayla: We're grumbling.\r\n\r\nRon: Yes, and I feel like a victim of you and of my circumstances and I don't want to be here. That's pretty obvious too. That sends a big message.\r\n\r\nGayla: And then it creates disunity.\r\n\r\nRon: Exactly.\r\n\r\nGayla: We're wanting to move toward unity and yet, man, if we're complaining and that's all that's going on in our head, then it moves toward disunity.\r\n\r\nRon: And we have to pursue that. At FamilyLife\u00ae, our big word is oneness. We talk about moving from isolation, a tough place in your relationship to oneness. And oneness then empowers you to bless other people, help others have impact. And by the way, that's not linear isolation to oneness. It's sort of like in life. In any given day, Nan and I can go from isolation into oneness and then back into isolation.\r\n\r\nGayla:\u2014back in isolation, yes.\r\n\r\nRon: \u2014in about five seconds it seems like. Is that true for you? \r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, it is true. \r\n\r\nRon: I know that's life. \r\n\r\nGayla: And I'm sitting there thinking, \u201cHow did we get to this? A minute ago we were great. \r\n\r\nRon: That's right. That's right. It's so funny how that happens. Call that dysregulation. We're going to talk more about that on this podcast in the near future. So it ebbs and it flows, but we're always pursuing oneness.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes.\r\n\r\nRon: That's our FamilyLife word is oneness, but in the real world, in the biblical world, I should say, the word is unity. That's the word in the Bible that gets translated a state of oneness. It's unity. So yeah, that's exactly what people want. That's what we're all going for in our relationships. And the Bible's clear, we have to pursue it; actively chase after this thing.\r\n\r\nGayla: It goes back to Romans 12:2, the patterns of this world are not necessarily unity.\r\n\r\nRon: Yes.\r\n\r\nGayla:And so we have to be intentional with it.\r\n\r\nRon:Let me throw another scripture at you.\r\n\r\nGayla:Yeah.\r\n\r\nRon: 1 Corinthians 14:1. Now most people, when you say 1 Corinthians 13, they go, what's that chapter? \r\n\r\nGayla: The love chapter.\r\n\r\nRon: Yeah, it's all about love. It's a great description, very poetic way of looking at what love is and what it isn't but what's 14 verse 1? Most people have no idea.\r\n\r\nGayla: I don't know.\r\n\r\nRon: Yeah. The first two words are \u201cpursue love.\u201d So he's just spent a whole lot of time talking about this love thing and then he says, \u201cNow go get it.\u201d And the word pursue is not \u201cYeah, I hope you'll wander and trip over it someday and you'll discover it.\u201d No, it is intentional effort. Focus on this thing and go after it. So gratitude is one of those pieces that helps us chase down love. Doesn't mean you get it today. Doesn't mean it's going to materialize and be a two-way street in any difficult relationship, but you do what you can to move in that direction and prayerfully hope and hold onto the idea that maybe someday it'll come around.\r\n\r\nGayla: And it's that verb pursue; that's an action word.\r\n\r\nRon: It is; go get it.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, and there are so many ways that we can do that. Some of them are really small ways. \r\n\r\nI think about a stepmom that was telling me about her stepdaughter at a volleyball game or something; that she was going to, the stepmom, to watch the stepdaughter and the stepdaughter would not acknowledge the stepmom because her biological mom was there. And I said, \u201cWell, how did you react to that?\u201d And she said, \u201cWell, I did the same thing. I didn't acknowledge her.\u201d And I said, \u201cBut let's talk about our position as the adult here.\u201d And so pursuing love means that you still say, \u201cHey, how are you doing, Sally? I\u2019m so proud of you today.\u201d or whatever. We don't feed off of their negativity. We create our own positivity and pursue.\r\n\r\nRon: It's so understandable why somebody would perceive rejection and then say, I'm going to dish it right back. It's understandable\u2014\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, it is.\r\n\r\nRon: \u2014that that's the way we find ourselves reacting.\r\n\r\nGayla: That's the natural pattern of the world.\r\n\r\nRon: It is.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right.\r\n\r\nRon: But we got to overcome that.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, we do.\r\n\r\nRon: Otherwise, we're just\u2014see you pause, and you think. Can I just talk about sequencing for a second? I had no idea we're going to talk about this, but we're going to go there. \r\n\r\nGayla: Okay.\r\n\r\nRon: So the way we sequence interactions in relationships is always self-serving. So think about this stepmom. She would say, \u201cWell, she rejected me first.\u201d I then feel justified in rejecting her. So the sequence is she did, so I did. But what if we ask that stepchild who did what first? What if their perspective was, \u201cWell, she withholds. I can't trust her. She doesn't like me. So there's no way, especially with my mom there.\u201d\r\n\r\nGayla: Exactly.\r\n\r\nRon: So other people may sequence it differently than we sequence it, and they make it about us, and we make it about them. And everybody then has a stalemate and gridlock, and no one, no one moves toward the other person.\r\n\r\nGayla: And everyone loses.\r\n\r\nRon: And so the first thing we got to do is recognize that our sequencing, how we justify our own behavior, is often very selfish and limited in its perspective. You think, \u201cWell, we started the day fine, but then she did this and so I rejected her.\u201d Well, maybe if you back up a day, maybe there was something you did that set her on a path of today doing the thing. My point is not to find blame. That's what we're really doing is trying to assign blame. But finding blame is self-serving. Stop trying to find blame and say, \u201cIt doesn't matter what they did. I have agency over how I respond. Am I going to return in kind or am I going to pursue love and do the right thing: what love would have me to do?\u201d\r\n\r\nGayla: I think too, sometimes, it's just we're projecting how they're going to behave towards us. And so we set ourselves up to be defensive, to protect ourselves instead of in our mind thinking, \u201cWell, even if she doesn't acknowledge me, I'm going to acknowledge her.\u201d So go in there with a plan. If you want to project, \u201cThis is what's going to happen,\u201d well change what's going to happen. You do your part to change what's going to happen.\r\n\r\nRon: Let's be realistic. You can lower your expectations in that moment. It's not like you're going in there going, \u201cI'm going to transform this whole thing and your attitude,\u201d no, no, no, no, no. You're not going to control or fix her on any level. What you are going to do is just be an example of the kind of thing that Jesus would have you to do, and that is sort of the end of it. This is all I expect out of this moment is for me to act well, and maybe it'll bring some influence, maybe something positive will come, but I'm not invested in that necessarily. What I'm invested in is just being light in this dark moment.\r\n\r\nGayla: And how then that moves you hopefully toward unity in this relationship. Maybe not today. Maybe that's just a small seed that you're planting that eventually can be nourished and will grow.\r\n\r\nRon: Okay, so I want us to jump around the other side of this conversation about gratitude because sometimes there's just not much to be thankful for. And somebody's listening right now going, \u201cYeah, I'm wondering when you guys are going to talk real life. I just don't feel like there's much for me to pursue and there's much hope,\u201d And I just want to pause and go, yep, I get it. There are moments and there are seasons in life where there is not much light coming through and it is really difficult to feel any hope about how things might change. And so maybe, oddly enough, in this season of thankfulness that we're all facing with thanksgiving around the corner, slowing down and lamenting would be an appropriate thing to do.\r\n\r\nGayla:Yeah. I mean, Ron, can I share a non-stepfamily situation with you?\r\n\r\nRon: Sure.\r\n\r\nGayla: Because for me, you know my first grandchild was born out, way on the other side of the world, lives there and I am sad about that. That's not what I would want. And I have to go back to God and say, \u201cI don't feel thankful for this.\u201d And yet I also can say, \u201cBut I am thankful for what you're doing in their lives over there. I'm thankful that you've given me a healthy grandchild that was here for three weeks in the summer for our son's wedding.\u201d My daughter sent me a video of her giggling, her first little laughing. I cried. I didn't laugh with her; I cried.\r\n\r\nRon: Because you weren't there.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes.\r\n\r\nRon: Couldn't feel it, experience it.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, right.\r\n\r\nRon: It's hard.\r\n\r\nGayla: It is hard.\r\n\r\nRon: Lament and grief and sorrow and sadness is something we talk about frequently on this podcast and in our materials. It's something that's a big part of both of our lives. We have walked the road of grief for different reasons and different occasions. I have learned how to lament, and we are not going to unpack lament in a great deal today, but I just want to say that the two essential elements of it are number one, what you just said, pouring out your sorrow to God and just going, \u201cLord, this stinks.\u201d And then reminding ourselves, of what is true about God. And that's sort of the turn where you go, \u201cAlright, I remember what God did.\u201d in the biblical laments. They're often looking back at, \u201cYeah, I remember you saved our people from Pharaoh's hand. I remember you brought us out of Egypt. You brought us to the\u2026 yes, and you did this and through the prophets you did this, and you've given us \u2026.\u201d And so it's that remembering what God has done for perhaps others and perhaps yourself; counting your blessings, but not in a simplistic way, but in a genuine authentic, \u201cAlright, I've seen your hand in my life, Lord. And I'm going to remember that right now. Right now that seems so far away, but I'm going to remember and I'm going to remind myself and I'm going to look again to you to see me through this dark place.\u201d That's legit.\r\n\r\nGayla: Absolutely.\r\n\r\nRon: It's important to do.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yeah. I think it's also trusting God that even if you don't understand the circumstance, because sometimes in stepfamily life we're walking through things that do not make sense to us, and yet we've trusted God in the past with a circumstance that didn't make sense to us and He brought good out of it and we're going to trust Him again even when we don't see good at the time.\r\n\r\nRon: I just had a friend recently text me saying, \u201cWhat's that Psalm that you talk about Ron that doesn't resolve, that doesn't have that turning towards?\u201d And it's true, there is one. There's like 30 or 40 laments in the Psalms. There's one, Psalm 88 that doesn't turn the corner; that doesn't remember and remind themselves. It's just an outpouring of darkness. What I love about God is He gave us that. It's His way of saying, \u201cLook, I know there's going to be moments when you just don't see any light and I'm still here, pour it out, bring it on, bring it to me. I'm not going to be offended. I'm not going to get mad at you.\u201d\r\n\r\nGayla: \u201cI can handle it.\u201d\r\n\r\nRon: \u201cI can handle it.\u201d And I think the unwritten message is, \u201cI will see you through even though you can't see a path so do that.\u201d All the other laments though, have that reminder to self and it's so very important. \r\n\r\nSo I just want to say to our listener, our viewer: you're in a dark season, take it to God, pour it out to Him, let Him have it. He can take it. And if you can remind yourself of who He has been, promises He's kept to others, to yourself, to the biblical characters, and remind yourself that you think He's faithful, because that's the point. He is faithful. And at some level we turn to that, and we just hope, and we rely on it even though we don't know how it's going to work out.\r\n\r\nGayla: As we move into the holidays, some holiday seasons are more joyful than others. Some holiday seasons are great, and we can really count our blessings, and we can be so thankful. Then some holiday seasons are not as great but know that there's always another holiday season.\r\n\r\nRon: We've talked about this piece before. I'd love you to just comment on it. Even if most things aren't going fabulous for you in your life or your family right now, but there's one thing that does feel good, give yourself permission to enjoy it.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, you can hold joy and grief at the same time. Sometimes that's part of our healing as God allows us to see pieces that there is joy over here, even though there's grief over here; and don't feel guilty on days that you have good things going on. Experience those, even if you're in the midst of a season that has a lot of grief in it.\r\n\r\nRon: Let's go back to pursuing love and what are some strategies that people might think about this holiday season to pursue love, pursue relationship, and build oneness?\r\n\r\nGayla: Well, let's talk about traditions. I mean, isn't that a great one?\r\n\r\nRon: Yes, it is.\r\n\r\nGayla: And for me, traditions is about finding things that you have in common with those in your family, asking for their opinion. You don't have to have all the say in it. \u201cWhat do you guys want to do? What would be fun as a family?\u201d It's not drudgery, it's fun. So everybody needs to kind of buy in and do things together that work for you as a family.\r\n\r\nRon: I'm keying in on the word fun.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes. Preferably, it'd be fun.\r\n\r\nRon: Have some fun and play board games; go outside, throw the football; have fun in the kitchen baking; making, enjoying whatever it is that is fun for the different people in your world, in your life. Really be intentional.\r\n\r\nGayla: And if you're not sure how it's going to go, just try it. If it doesn't go well, then drop it. Don't do it next year. Try a different tradition. Just because you don't know how it's going to go; doesn't mean you can't try it.\r\n\r\nRon: By the way, listener, that is one of our rules of thumb around here when it comes to blended family living. If you're unsure, give it a go.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right. \r\n\r\nRon: Who knows? \r\n\r\nGayla: We don\u2019t know either how that'll go.\r\n\r\nRon: You may think \u201cThis is going to be a disaster,\u201d and then it may go really well, and you've discovered something that works and then you know can keep doing it. But until you give it a go, you're not really sure.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right, yeah.\r\n\r\nRon: So if you're new to this family journey, everything you do is not a tradition yet. You may be discovering a tradition that or something that in five years will be called a tradition, but you'd have to repeat it by definition for it to be a tradition.\r\n\r\nGayla: You do. Our family likes, some of our family likes to get in the car and go look at Christmas lights, even to the point of kind of scoping them out. You can get the top ten in your town, but there's some who don't like that. So one year, some of those who don't like that wasn't there for the holidays, they couldn't come. So I'm like, oh, we can do this tradition because this person's not here. So be creative in whatever works.\r\n\r\nRon: There you go. There you go. Find what you have in common. Visiting extended families; sometimes for blended families, that's a good thing. We're going to get to see grandma, grandparents, step grandparents, whatever the case, that's finally an opportunity to spend some time together and maybe forge some new relationship there. For others though, it can be awkward.\r\n\r\nGayla: It can be.\r\n\r\nRon: Probably it's both. It's awkward and it's good,\r\n\r\nGayla: Especially in the beginning. I think definitely it's going to be awkward and even the whole trying to figure out the schedule. \u201cWell, how do we make this work?\u201d You can almost expect that there's going to be some awkwardness, but it doesn't mean that you shouldn't do it. Don't plan to spend the whole day there. Do what works.\r\n\r\nRon: Exactly. One of the things that I was just thinking of for my family that has been so important to us is movies.\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh yeah.\r\n\r\nRon: We have our holiday movies and we're going to watch them and we're going to laugh again. We're going to\u2014\r\n\r\nGayla: \u2014the same movies.\r\n\r\nRon: We're going to quote the lines for the next three days; all that kind of stuff.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes.\r\n\r\nRon: Those are the special opportunities. That's the power of tradition is what I'm trying to say. It becomes a marker, a thing that we unite around.\r\n\r\nGayla: And you look forward to,\r\n\r\nRon: And no matter how silly it is, there's value in it so try to pursue those as much as you can.\r\n\r\nGayla: It creates belonging as a blended family, and that's what we're looking for, and traditions are really a part of that.\r\n\r\nRon: I would like to end our time by just reading Psalm 100.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nGayla: Okay.\r\n\r\nRon: And I'm just sharing this as a reminder to all of us that we have much to be grateful for, to be thankful for, and that turns into praise. Psalm 100, \u201cShout for joy to the Lord, all the earth. Worship the Lord with gladness; come before him with joyful songs. Know that the Lord is God. It is he who made us, and we are his; we are his people, the sheep of his pasture. Enter his gates with thanksgiving and his courts with praise; give thanks to him and praise his name. For the Lord is good and his love endures forever; his faithfulness continues through all generations.\u201d\r\n\r\nGayla: Amen.\r\n\r\nRon: Thanks for being with me today. \r\n\r\nGayla: It's been good. \r\n\r\nRon: If you haven't signed up for our monthly newsletter, Strengthening Stepfamilies\u2014Gayla has a whole lot to do with that\u2014check the show notes for a link. We will not spam you; I promise. We're not going to send you a lot of stuff. We'll just give you some articles and helpful things, event information and encouragement every month. We'd love for you to leave a review or a rating; that helps us find other people, helps them find us, and then they can be blessed by this podcast as well. \r\n\r\nThe number one email question that I often get is, how do I find a qualified counselor for our marriage and family? Well, we have a growing list of Smart Stepfamily therapists and coaches who have invested time and energy in learning how to be more helpful to the blended families that they serve. They've gone through my advanced clinical training and they're ready to help. So check the show notes for a link to that list. \r\n\r\nAnd if you're a coach or a counselor, you can learn more about that training. It\u2019s preapproved for 12 hours of continuing education, and we do it two or three times a year. We'd love to have you join our list. \r\n\r\nOkay, next time, in fact, the entire month of December 2024, I'm interviewing kids. No, not grownups looking back at their childhood, but actual young people and teenagers talking about life in a blended family from their point of view. In fact, that's what we've called it, a series from their perspective. That's on the next three episodes of FamilyLife Blended. \r\n\r\nI'm Ron Deal, wishing you a happy Thanksgiving and Christmas season. Thank you to our production team and donors who make this podcast possible. \r\n\r\nFamilyLife Blended is part of the FamilyLife Podcast Network. Helping you pursue the relationships that matter most.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider donating today to help defray the costs?\r\n\r\nCopyright \u00a9 2024 FamilyLife. 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doesn\u2019t always happen naturally in blended families, but it can move us toward unity in our relationships. Ron Deal and Gayla Grace talk about intentional ways to posture ourselves toward a heart full of gratitude, even in hard seasons.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"\n<ul>\n<li aria-level=\"2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/playlist?list=PLoZ3uqAYX8EF4stflelXraWNtniOTC8p3\">Watch podcast episodes on YouTube\u00a0<\/a><\/li>\n<li aria-level=\"2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/familylifeblended\/familylife-blended-newsletter\/\">Sign up for the Strengthening Stepfamilies Newslettter\u00a0<\/a><\/li>\n<li aria-level=\"2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/smartstepfamilies.com\/smart-help\/therapy-providers\">Find Smart Stepfamily Therapists and Coaches<\/a>\u00a0<\/li>\n<li aria-level=\"2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/donate.familylife.com\/blended\/?cru_source=D000BLENDG&cru_medium=DesktopHeaderNav&cru_campaign=Blended\">Consider supporting ministry to blended families with a tax deductible gift.<\/a>\u00a0<\/li>\n<li aria-level=\"2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blendedandblessed.com\/\">Join us in April for a marriage event just for couples in blended families.<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n","transcript_url":"https:\/\/d39ogy74mn1yxi.cloudfront.net\/FLBP\/pdf\/FLBp2024-11-18.pdf","transcript_content":"\nFamilyLife Blended\u00ae\r\n\r\nThis content has been generated by an artificial intelligence language model. While we strive for accuracy and quality, please note that the information provided will most likely not be entirely error-free or up-to-date. We recommend independently verifying the content with the originally-released audio. This transcript is provided for your personal use and general information purposes only. References to conferences, resources, or other special promotions may be obsolete. We do not assume any responsibility or liability for the use or interpretation of this content.\r\n\r\nSeason 6, Episode 151: Practicing Gratitude in Your Blended Family\r\n\r\nGuest:Gayla Grace\r\n\r\nAir Date: November 18, 2024\r\n\r\nGayla: I had a conversation this weekend with a stepdad who is not seeing any reward for how he's pouring into this stepchild\u2019s life. And I said, \u201cSometimes we don't see it, but it doesn't mean that they're not seeing what you are doing. They maybe just don't know how to express it really until they become young adults. Sometimes we don't gain some of those rewards where they can express it towards us.\u201d\r\n\r\nRon: Welcome to the FamilyLife Blended podcast. I'm Ron Deal. We help blended families, and those who love them, pursue the relationships that matter most. My dear friend, author and speaker Gayla Grace is again with me in the studio. \r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, good to be here, Ron.\r\n\r\nRon: So nice to have her every single time and I am already smelling the turkey.\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh my goodness. Can you believe it's that time?\r\n\r\nRon: It is, and I am hungry. We have found the best smoked turkey ever.\r\n\r\nGayla: Really.\r\n\r\nRon: And for the last few years I will invest the money and go buy this and it is incredible.\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh wow. Okay, so you have turkey, not ham.\r\n\r\nRon: We do. We do. We are turkey people.\r\n\r\nGayla: Okay.\r\n\r\nRon: Are you a ham person?\r\n\r\nGayla: We're turkey people, but we have both actually, a lot of years depending on how many people are around the table.\r\n\r\nRon: Is that a blended family story?\r\n\r\nGayla: No, not really. Just some people in my family prefer ham.\r\n\r\nRon: Okay. Yeah, they like to ham it up. Okay. Well, I'm already grateful for the seven pounds I'm going to gain over the next couple of weeks eating my wife's pumpkin spice cake and\u2014\r\n\r\nGayla: Grateful for gaining weight, Ron.\r\n\r\nRon: I'm grateful because I know how good it's going to taste.\r\n\r\nGayla: Okay, you got to explain that one.\r\n\r\nRon: I'll have to work it off, but I'm grateful for the joy that will come with that leftover barbecue turkey sandwiches. \r\n\r\nGayla: Oh, there you go. \r\n\r\nRon: See, I can already taste it.\r\n\r\nGayla: Tell her to bring some of that pumpkin spice cake to the office.\r\n\r\nRon: Oh no, because I want to eat it.\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh, you're not going to share it, okay.\r\n\r\nRon: It is to die for. \r\n\r\nGayla: Oh my gosh. \r\n\r\nRon: I'm telling you; I live for this stuff. \r\n\r\nGayla: Oh wow. \r\n\r\nRon: Okay, but speaking of gratitude, we have heard from some of our listeners who are thankful for this podcast. I'm grateful that they took the time to write to us and tell us a few things. And so, hey, listen to this Gayla. A viewer on YouTube said, \u201cI'm a regular viewer of your YouTube channel. I have seen all your videos, and your content is very good. I have learned a lot from you,\u201d from us.\r\n\r\nGayla: All your videos, wow.\r\n\r\nRon: It's fantastic. I'm just excited about that. That's what we want. FamilyLife Blended is about resourcing and investing in people.\r\n\r\nGayla: Exactly.\r\n\r\nRon: I know the Women &amp;amp; Blended Families monthly livestream you do; I know people love that. We hear from them.\r\n\r\nGayla: It's nice to be on YouTube and people be able to access this there.\r\n\r\nRon: So if you're listening or watching, by the way, you don't know what I'm talking about that Gayla does every month, every month Women &amp;amp; Blended Families livestream, and it goes out through all our social media channels. So it's on Instagram and Facebook and multiple Facebook channels and on YouTube. And if you can't catch it live and be a part of it and add comments or whatever you want to do, then you can always go back and watch them later.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right; recorded, but second Tuesday of every month, 12 noon central is when the actual live event is.\r\n\r\nRon: Love it. Okay, we had another viewer, also on YouTube, reacted to a particular episode: 134, Being a Stepparent: Is it a Blessing? This person says, \u201cAwesome message. I will soon be a stepmom with no biological children of my own. This message has humbled me about living in my own emotions and defending myself. It has given me a new approach on what God has in store for me. I believe this family is a blessing from God and he has placed me here on purpose. Thank you.\u201d\r\n\r\nGayla: I love that because the truth is it doesn't always feel like a blessing to be a stepmom. She has no biological kids of her own, so she's walking into this a little naive, but she is taking the perspective of, it's a blessing. We're going to talk about that a little bit today, Ron, about changing our perspective sometimes when we don't feel like things in our stepfamily are a blessing but that's what she's saying, and I love that.\r\n\r\nRon: I love that she's equipping herself before becoming a stepmom. We always encourage that.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right; absolutely.\r\n\r\nRon: And so if you know anybody, if you're, as a listener or viewer, if you know anybody who's dating, thinking about forming a blended family, get them in touch with our materials and resources. That's really the best time to start learning.\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh, absolutely. You're so much better off if you go in with a head full of some tools in how to do blended family life.\r\n\r\nRon: This reminds me, I had a conversation with a couple this last week where they said, \u201cWe got mad when we first started reading about The Smart Stepmom and some resources because we realized nobody had shared any of this with us,\u201d and here they were 10 years in, had made some mistakes, were trying to recover from all of that, and yeah, learn it on the front end.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yeah, it's so much harder when you're 10 years in and you're trying to recover and now you have to go back and redo and maybe apologize.\r\n\r\nRon: \u2014repair.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, it's so much harder that way.\r\n\r\nRon: We had one other person write to us, email us this time. \u201cI just listened to an episode from October regarding the Dragon method of co-parenting.\u201d Do you remember that episode? These two people that I was talking to, had this method about doing co-parenting and how you negotiate. It was really good. And this person says, \u201cI'm so excited to implement this with my very high conflict situation.\u201d\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh goodness.\r\n\r\nRon: By the way, that was episode 123. If you don't know what I'm talking about, go back and learn a little bit about the DRAGON Method. It sounds horrible, but it's really meant to be helpful. \r\n\r\nGayla: It works!\r\n\r\nRon: And so that's great. Let me just say to our viewers, and all of our listeners, we are thankful for you. We appreciate your encouragement. We appreciate you telling others about this podcast and the resources that we have at FamilyLife Blended. We pray the hand of the Lord is on you, not just this holiday season that's coming up, but always. So thank you for listening and thank you for being a part of our family, if you will.\r\n\r\nGayla: Absolutely.\r\n\r\nRon: We\u2019re going to talk about gratitude. We're going to talk some about unity today. I know at this past year's Blended and Blessed, you were one of our speakers and you talked around some of these themes.\r\n\r\nGayla: I did.\r\n\r\nRon: You want to share some of those thoughts?\r\n\r\nGayla: Yeah. So just to start, I feel like when we have a heart full of gratitude, we're much more likely to want to move toward connectedness in our relationships. Sometimes in blended families, that doesn't happen naturally. Sometimes there's things we don't feel gratitude towards. \r\n\r\nAnd for me, Ron, I go back to Romans 12:2, \u201cDon't conform to the patterns of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.\u201d The patterns of this world are selfishness, and what we want, and what works for us. And yet in blended families, if we can move more towards\u2014and this requires asking the Holy Spirit's help\u2014renewing our mind towards whatever hard dynamic is that we have that we don't feel grateful for. \r\n\r\nSo let's say for instance, even the stepmom who wrote in, and she's really trying to take a perspective of gratefulness as she steps into this family, but maybe as a stepmom you have a prickly stepchild that you don't feel grateful for. You're not moved towards unity and yet if you consider a different perspective, \u201cI'm going to ask God to help me renew my mind so that I can think about what I am grateful for in regard to the stepchild.\u201d Maybe it's things like \u201cI'm grateful for the influence that I can have as a stepmom that is different than anybody else as they pour into this child. I'm thankful for that.\u201d \u201cLord, thank you. Allow me to keep an attitude of gratitude even when it doesn't feel natural for me.\u201d\r\n\r\nRon: I love the little quote from Curt Thompson who says, \u201cPay attention to what you're paying attention to.\u201d And so if I'm paying attention to negativity about this child, boy is it a mental game. Boy, I mean this renewing your mind stuff means you have to take those negative thoughts captive. And I think I hear you saying shift to something positive. Where can you find gratitude? This is not to be turn a blind eye to hard things that are really taking place. We're not saying that.\r\n\r\nGayla: No, it's not. \r\n\r\nRon: We're not being Christianese here. What we are saying is look for something you can be grateful for because that opens your heart toward that child and maybe helps you posture yourself in a little different way when engaging with them.\r\n\r\nGayla: \u2014that leads towards connectedness. Sometimes, Ron, it might just be as simple as, \u201cI'm thankful that this hard dynamic causes me to rely on the Lord in a way that I don't otherwise.\u201d\r\n\r\nRon: Oh, wow, yes.\r\n\r\nGayla: It postures me with a surrendered heart. That's a hard one.\r\n\r\nRon: That is.\r\n\r\nGayla: But if we move down the road and we look back at things and oftentimes it's those hard dynamics that have put us in a posture of surrender to the Lord. I'm always thankful for that, in the long run. I might not be thankful for it in the minute.\r\n\r\nRon: Yes, there you go, and that's good. I think that's important to acknowledge that this can feel like, \u201cHere I go, I'm having to make another sacrifice. I'm doing all the work. Why is this not working in my benefit? What's necessary for that long-term gain?\u201d I'm just sitting here reflecting on, I've been listening, I like to listen to the Bible Project Podcast.\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh yes.\r\n\r\nRon: And viewer\/listener, if you don't know what the Bible Project is, look it up online, YouTube, and their podcast as well. It's just phenomenal stuff. And they were just talking about the golden rule and do unto others as you would have them\u2014\r\n\r\nGayla: \u2014do unto you.\r\n\r\nRon: \u2014do unto you.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right,\r\n\r\nRon: I had a little bit different interpretation. The word there is have the desires for others that you would have them to desire to do to you. Desire to do for others what you would have them desire that they do for you which connected a few dots for me. Which I found really interesting because it's the same word desire in the Lord's prayer; to say the Lord's will, God's will; it\u2019s God's desires. 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Really until they become young adults, sometimes we don't gain some of those rewards where they can express it towards us.\r\n\r\nRon: You and I have both seen so many situations where the kids will start, I'll use the word bragging on a stepparent to their friends, to other people. They'll never say it directly to the stepparent. I shouldn't say never, at that particular season of their life\u2014\r\n\r\nGayla: Probably not.\r\n\r\nRon: \u2014they won't, but they'll say it to somebody else. And yeah, there's a reason why it's hard to be direct with it, but that doesn't mean their gratitude is not there for you.\r\n\r\nGayla: And just always know God is working behind those scenes too in things that we may not see happening.\r\n\r\nRon: Was there anything else that you wanted to share with us?\r\n\r\nGayla: I think that was the biggest point was the perspective. Sometimes it requires a change in perspective for us, and to be aware of what you're thinking of. Because if the negative perspective fills our hearts, it's going to spill out things that we don't want.\r\n\r\nRon: So let's connect this gratitude thing with unity. That's what you want in your family. Viewer\/listener, that's what you want. You're going for unity, harmony, right? You want cohesiveness. You want people to feel safe and loved and cared for and all of that. And I do think how we posture ourselves either with gratitude or what's the alternative? If not with gratitude\u2014\r\n\r\nGayla: We're grumbling.\r\n\r\nRon: Yes, and I feel like a victim of you and of my circumstances and I don't want to be here. That's pretty obvious too. That sends a big message.\r\n\r\nGayla: And then it creates disunity.\r\n\r\nRon: Exactly.\r\n\r\nGayla: We're wanting to move toward unity and yet, man, if we're complaining and that's all that's going on in our head, then it moves toward disunity.\r\n\r\nRon: And we have to pursue that. At FamilyLife\u00ae, our big word is oneness. We talk about moving from isolation, a tough place in your relationship to oneness. And oneness then empowers you to bless other people, help others have impact. And by the way, that's not linear isolation to oneness. It's sort of like in life. In any given day, Nan and I can go from isolation into oneness and then back into isolation.\r\n\r\nGayla:\u2014back in isolation, yes.\r\n\r\nRon: \u2014in about five seconds it seems like. Is that true for you? \r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, it is true. \r\n\r\nRon: I know that's life. \r\n\r\nGayla: And I'm sitting there thinking, \u201cHow did we get to this? A minute ago we were great. \r\n\r\nRon: That's right. That's right. It's so funny how that happens. Call that dysregulation. We're going to talk more about that on this podcast in the near future. So it ebbs and it flows, but we're always pursuing oneness.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes.\r\n\r\nRon: That's our FamilyLife word is oneness, but in the real world, in the biblical world, I should say, the word is unity. That's the word in the Bible that gets translated a state of oneness. It's unity. So yeah, that's exactly what people want. That's what we're all going for in our relationships. And the Bible's clear, we have to pursue it; actively chase after this thing.\r\n\r\nGayla: It goes back to Romans 12:2, the patterns of this world are not necessarily unity.\r\n\r\nRon: Yes.\r\n\r\nGayla:And so we have to be intentional with it.\r\n\r\nRon:Let me throw another scripture at you.\r\n\r\nGayla:Yeah.\r\n\r\nRon: 1 Corinthians 14:1. Now most people, when you say 1 Corinthians 13, they go, what's that chapter? \r\n\r\nGayla: The love chapter.\r\n\r\nRon: Yeah, it's all about love. It's a great description, very poetic way of looking at what love is and what it isn't but what's 14 verse 1? Most people have no idea.\r\n\r\nGayla: I don't know.\r\n\r\nRon: Yeah. The first two words are \u201cpursue love.\u201d So he's just spent a whole lot of time talking about this love thing and then he says, \u201cNow go get it.\u201d And the word pursue is not \u201cYeah, I hope you'll wander and trip over it someday and you'll discover it.\u201d No, it is intentional effort. Focus on this thing and go after it. So gratitude is one of those pieces that helps us chase down love. Doesn't mean you get it today. Doesn't mean it's going to materialize and be a two-way street in any difficult relationship, but you do what you can to move in that direction and prayerfully hope and hold onto the idea that maybe someday it'll come around.\r\n\r\nGayla: And it's that verb pursue; that's an action word.\r\n\r\nRon: It is; go get it.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, and there are so many ways that we can do that. Some of them are really small ways. \r\n\r\nI think about a stepmom that was telling me about her stepdaughter at a volleyball game or something; that she was going to, the stepmom, to watch the stepdaughter and the stepdaughter would not acknowledge the stepmom because her biological mom was there. And I said, \u201cWell, how did you react to that?\u201d And she said, \u201cWell, I did the same thing. I didn't acknowledge her.\u201d And I said, \u201cBut let's talk about our position as the adult here.\u201d And so pursuing love means that you still say, \u201cHey, how are you doing, Sally? I\u2019m so proud of you today.\u201d or whatever. We don't feed off of their negativity. We create our own positivity and pursue.\r\n\r\nRon: It's so understandable why somebody would perceive rejection and then say, I'm going to dish it right back. It's understandable\u2014\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, it is.\r\n\r\nRon: \u2014that that's the way we find ourselves reacting.\r\n\r\nGayla: That's the natural pattern of the world.\r\n\r\nRon: It is.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right.\r\n\r\nRon: But we got to overcome that.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, we do.\r\n\r\nRon: Otherwise, we're just\u2014see you pause, and you think. Can I just talk about sequencing for a second? I had no idea we're going to talk about this, but we're going to go there. \r\n\r\nGayla: Okay.\r\n\r\nRon: So the way we sequence interactions in relationships is always self-serving. So think about this stepmom. She would say, \u201cWell, she rejected me first.\u201d I then feel justified in rejecting her. So the sequence is she did, so I did. But what if we ask that stepchild who did what first? What if their perspective was, \u201cWell, she withholds. I can't trust her. She doesn't like me. So there's no way, especially with my mom there.\u201d\r\n\r\nGayla: Exactly.\r\n\r\nRon: So other people may sequence it differently than we sequence it, and they make it about us, and we make it about them. And everybody then has a stalemate and gridlock, and no one, no one moves toward the other person.\r\n\r\nGayla: And everyone loses.\r\n\r\nRon: And so the first thing we got to do is recognize that our sequencing, how we justify our own behavior, is often very selfish and limited in its perspective. You think, \u201cWell, we started the day fine, but then she did this and so I rejected her.\u201d Well, maybe if you back up a day, maybe there was something you did that set her on a path of today doing the thing. My point is not to find blame. That's what we're really doing is trying to assign blame. But finding blame is self-serving. Stop trying to find blame and say, \u201cIt doesn't matter what they did. I have agency over how I respond. Am I going to return in kind or am I going to pursue love and do the right thing: what love would have me to do?\u201d\r\n\r\nGayla: I think too, sometimes, it's just we're projecting how they're going to behave towards us. And so we set ourselves up to be defensive, to protect ourselves instead of in our mind thinking, \u201cWell, even if she doesn't acknowledge me, I'm going to acknowledge her.\u201d So go in there with a plan. If you want to project, \u201cThis is what's going to happen,\u201d well change what's going to happen. You do your part to change what's going to happen.\r\n\r\nRon: Let's be realistic. You can lower your expectations in that moment. It's not like you're going in there going, \u201cI'm going to transform this whole thing and your attitude,\u201d no, no, no, no, no. You're not going to control or fix her on any level. What you are going to do is just be an example of the kind of thing that Jesus would have you to do, and that is sort of the end of it. This is all I expect out of this moment is for me to act well, and maybe it'll bring some influence, maybe something positive will come, but I'm not invested in that necessarily. What I'm invested in is just being light in this dark moment.\r\n\r\nGayla: And how then that moves you hopefully toward unity in this relationship. Maybe not today. Maybe that's just a small seed that you're planting that eventually can be nourished and will grow.\r\n\r\nRon: Okay, so I want us to jump around the other side of this conversation about gratitude because sometimes there's just not much to be thankful for. And somebody's listening right now going, \u201cYeah, I'm wondering when you guys are going to talk real life. I just don't feel like there's much for me to pursue and there's much hope,\u201d And I just want to pause and go, yep, I get it. There are moments and there are seasons in life where there is not much light coming through and it is really difficult to feel any hope about how things might change. And so maybe, oddly enough, in this season of thankfulness that we're all facing with thanksgiving around the corner, slowing down and lamenting would be an appropriate thing to do.\r\n\r\nGayla:Yeah. I mean, Ron, can I share a non-stepfamily situation with you?\r\n\r\nRon: Sure.\r\n\r\nGayla: Because for me, you know my first grandchild was born out, way on the other side of the world, lives there and I am sad about that. That's not what I would want. And I have to go back to God and say, \u201cI don't feel thankful for this.\u201d And yet I also can say, \u201cBut I am thankful for what you're doing in their lives over there. I'm thankful that you've given me a healthy grandchild that was here for three weeks in the summer for our son's wedding.\u201d My daughter sent me a video of her giggling, her first little laughing. I cried. I didn't laugh with her; I cried.\r\n\r\nRon: Because you weren't there.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes.\r\n\r\nRon: Couldn't feel it, experience it.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, right.\r\n\r\nRon: It's hard.\r\n\r\nGayla: It is hard.\r\n\r\nRon: Lament and grief and sorrow and sadness is something we talk about frequently on this podcast and in our materials. It's something that's a big part of both of our lives. We have walked the road of grief for different reasons and different occasions. I have learned how to lament, and we are not going to unpack lament in a great deal today, but I just want to say that the two essential elements of it are number one, what you just said, pouring out your sorrow to God and just going, \u201cLord, this stinks.\u201d And then reminding ourselves, of what is true about God. And that's sort of the turn where you go, \u201cAlright, I remember what God did.\u201d in the biblical laments. They're often looking back at, \u201cYeah, I remember you saved our people from Pharaoh's hand. I remember you brought us out of Egypt. You brought us to the\u2026 yes, and you did this and through the prophets you did this, and you've given us \u2026.\u201d And so it's that remembering what God has done for perhaps others and perhaps yourself; counting your blessings, but not in a simplistic way, but in a genuine authentic, \u201cAlright, I've seen your hand in my life, Lord. And I'm going to remember that right now. Right now that seems so far away, but I'm going to remember and I'm going to remind myself and I'm going to look again to you to see me through this dark place.\u201d That's legit.\r\n\r\nGayla: Absolutely.\r\n\r\nRon: It's important to do.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yeah. I think it's also trusting God that even if you don't understand the circumstance, because sometimes in stepfamily life we're walking through things that do not make sense to us, and yet we've trusted God in the past with a circumstance that didn't make sense to us and He brought good out of it and we're going to trust Him again even when we don't see good at the time.\r\n\r\nRon: I just had a friend recently text me saying, \u201cWhat's that Psalm that you talk about Ron that doesn't resolve, that doesn't have that turning towards?\u201d And it's true, there is one. There's like 30 or 40 laments in the Psalms. There's one, Psalm 88 that doesn't turn the corner; that doesn't remember and remind themselves. It's just an outpouring of darkness. What I love about God is He gave us that. It's His way of saying, \u201cLook, I know there's going to be moments when you just don't see any light and I'm still here, pour it out, bring it on, bring it to me. I'm not going to be offended. I'm not going to get mad at you.\u201d\r\n\r\nGayla: \u201cI can handle it.\u201d\r\n\r\nRon: \u201cI can handle it.\u201d And I think the unwritten message is, \u201cI will see you through even though you can't see a path so do that.\u201d All the other laments though, have that reminder to self and it's so very important. \r\n\r\nSo I just want to say to our listener, our viewer: you're in a dark season, take it to God, pour it out to Him, let Him have it. He can take it. And if you can remind yourself of who He has been, promises He's kept to others, to yourself, to the biblical characters, and remind yourself that you think He's faithful, because that's the point. He is faithful. And at some level we turn to that, and we just hope, and we rely on it even though we don't know how it's going to work out.\r\n\r\nGayla: As we move into the holidays, some holiday seasons are more joyful than others. Some holiday seasons are great, and we can really count our blessings, and we can be so thankful. Then some holiday seasons are not as great but know that there's always another holiday season.\r\n\r\nRon: We've talked about this piece before. I'd love you to just comment on it. Even if most things aren't going fabulous for you in your life or your family right now, but there's one thing that does feel good, give yourself permission to enjoy it.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes, you can hold joy and grief at the same time. Sometimes that's part of our healing as God allows us to see pieces that there is joy over here, even though there's grief over here; and don't feel guilty on days that you have good things going on. Experience those, even if you're in the midst of a season that has a lot of grief in it.\r\n\r\nRon: Let's go back to pursuing love and what are some strategies that people might think about this holiday season to pursue love, pursue relationship, and build oneness?\r\n\r\nGayla: Well, let's talk about traditions. I mean, isn't that a great one?\r\n\r\nRon: Yes, it is.\r\n\r\nGayla: And for me, traditions is about finding things that you have in common with those in your family, asking for their opinion. You don't have to have all the say in it. \u201cWhat do you guys want to do? What would be fun as a family?\u201d It's not drudgery, it's fun. So everybody needs to kind of buy in and do things together that work for you as a family.\r\n\r\nRon: I'm keying in on the word fun.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes. Preferably, it'd be fun.\r\n\r\nRon: Have some fun and play board games; go outside, throw the football; have fun in the kitchen baking; making, enjoying whatever it is that is fun for the different people in your world, in your life. Really be intentional.\r\n\r\nGayla: And if you're not sure how it's going to go, just try it. If it doesn't go well, then drop it. Don't do it next year. Try a different tradition. Just because you don't know how it's going to go; doesn't mean you can't try it.\r\n\r\nRon: By the way, listener, that is one of our rules of thumb around here when it comes to blended family living. If you're unsure, give it a go.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right. \r\n\r\nRon: Who knows? \r\n\r\nGayla: We don\u2019t know either how that'll go.\r\n\r\nRon: You may think \u201cThis is going to be a disaster,\u201d and then it may go really well, and you've discovered something that works and then you know can keep doing it. But until you give it a go, you're not really sure.\r\n\r\nGayla: Right, yeah.\r\n\r\nRon: So if you're new to this family journey, everything you do is not a tradition yet. You may be discovering a tradition that or something that in five years will be called a tradition, but you'd have to repeat it by definition for it to be a tradition.\r\n\r\nGayla: You do. Our family likes, some of our family likes to get in the car and go look at Christmas lights, even to the point of kind of scoping them out. You can get the top ten in your town, but there's some who don't like that. So one year, some of those who don't like that wasn't there for the holidays, they couldn't come. So I'm like, oh, we can do this tradition because this person's not here. So be creative in whatever works.\r\n\r\nRon: There you go. There you go. Find what you have in common. Visiting extended families; sometimes for blended families, that's a good thing. We're going to get to see grandma, grandparents, step grandparents, whatever the case, that's finally an opportunity to spend some time together and maybe forge some new relationship there. For others though, it can be awkward.\r\n\r\nGayla: It can be.\r\n\r\nRon: Probably it's both. It's awkward and it's good,\r\n\r\nGayla: Especially in the beginning. I think definitely it's going to be awkward and even the whole trying to figure out the schedule. \u201cWell, how do we make this work?\u201d You can almost expect that there's going to be some awkwardness, but it doesn't mean that you shouldn't do it. Don't plan to spend the whole day there. Do what works.\r\n\r\nRon: Exactly. One of the things that I was just thinking of for my family that has been so important to us is movies.\r\n\r\nGayla: Oh yeah.\r\n\r\nRon: We have our holiday movies and we're going to watch them and we're going to laugh again. We're going to\u2014\r\n\r\nGayla: \u2014the same movies.\r\n\r\nRon: We're going to quote the lines for the next three days; all that kind of stuff.\r\n\r\nGayla: Yes.\r\n\r\nRon: Those are the special opportunities. That's the power of tradition is what I'm trying to say. It becomes a marker, a thing that we unite around.\r\n\r\nGayla: And you look forward to,\r\n\r\nRon: And no matter how silly it is, there's value in it so try to pursue those as much as you can.\r\n\r\nGayla: It creates belonging as a blended family, and that's what we're looking for, and traditions are really a part of that.\r\n\r\nRon: I would like to end our time by just reading Psalm 100.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nGayla: Okay.\r\n\r\nRon: And I'm just sharing this as a reminder to all of us that we have much to be grateful for, to be thankful for, and that turns into praise. Psalm 100, \u201cShout for joy to the Lord, all the earth. Worship the Lord with gladness; come before him with joyful songs. Know that the Lord is God. It is he who made us, and we are his; we are his people, the sheep of his pasture. Enter his gates with thanksgiving and his courts with praise; give thanks to him and praise his name. For the Lord is good and his love endures forever; his faithfulness continues through all generations.\u201d\r\n\r\nGayla: Amen.\r\n\r\nRon: Thanks for being with me today. \r\n\r\nGayla: It's been good. \r\n\r\nRon: If you haven't signed up for our monthly newsletter, Strengthening Stepfamilies\u2014Gayla has a whole lot to do with that\u2014check the show notes for a link. We will not spam you; I promise. We're not going to send you a lot of stuff. We'll just give you some articles and helpful things, event information and encouragement every month. We'd love for you to leave a review or a rating; that helps us find other people, helps them find us, and then they can be blessed by this podcast as well. \r\n\r\nThe number one email question that I often get is, how do I find a qualified counselor for our marriage and family? Well, we have a growing list of Smart Stepfamily therapists and coaches who have invested time and energy in learning how to be more helpful to the blended families that they serve. They've gone through my advanced clinical training and they're ready to help. So check the show notes for a link to that list. \r\n\r\nAnd if you're a coach or a counselor, you can learn more about that training. It\u2019s preapproved for 12 hours of continuing education, and we do it two or three times a year. We'd love to have you join our list. \r\n\r\nOkay, next time, in fact, the entire month of December 2024, I'm interviewing kids. 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