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And it's not that God <em>couldn't<\/em> completely heal my husband; I know that God <em>can<\/em>. But for whatever reason, He hasn't chosen to do it in the timeframe that I expected\/hasn't chosen to do it in the way that I would have wished. I really\/I have a choice\u2014I can either trust that His plan is best; I can either trust that His character is good\u2014or I can't call him Lord anymore.\n\n<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Ann Wilson.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m Dave Wilson, and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\nSo what's one thing that we did before the pandemic that you hope we <em>never<\/em> ever go back to?\n\n<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I don't know; do you have an answer? I have an answer.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What?\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, I immediately think we were <em>crazy<\/em>\u2014I\u2019m going to say <em>I<\/em> was crazy\u2014traveling the country; doing marriage conferences; saying, \u201cYes,\u201d to almost every ministry opportunity\u2014so we're on planes; we're in hotels; we\u2019re in churches, speaking\u2014doing great things\u2014but it was\/we were <em>fried<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I'm <em>shocked<\/em> that you're saying this. [Laughter] You <em>thrive<\/em> on this schedule.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You\u2019re so\/she\u2019s so happy right now.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m so like, \u201cThank you, Jesus.\u201d\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> She was telling me over and over: \u201cWe\u2019ve got to slow down,\u201d \u201cWe\u2019ve got to slow down,\u201d like\u2014\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I thought you loved it though.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I know, and what did I say every time? \u201cOh, we're just in a season. It'll end quickly\u201d; and the season kept going. I kept saying, \u201cYes.\u201d I'm\/I'm blaming <em>me<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And I wanted everything back to the way it used to be.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; normal.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I'm hoping we never go back to that. And the reason we're talking about this, is what?\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We have Laura Story with us today in the studio. Laura, welcome.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yay! Thanks so much for having me.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You\u2019re sitting over here, like trying to jump in, as we\u2019re having this little conversation.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> No, no; I'm just listening and learning. Whenever I'm with you two, I just <em>listen<\/em> [Laughter]; and I just soak it all in.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Because you're thinking\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014just like our kids\u2014our kids never said that to us\/they never said, \u201cWe're learning from Mom and Dad.\u201d [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Because you should be thinking, \u201cWhat <em>not<\/em> to do.\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura: <\/strong>Oh, come on.\n\n<strong>Ann: \u201c<\/strong>Oh, we just got it.\u201d\n\nYour book is <em>So Long, Normal: Living and Loving the Freefall of Faith<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes!\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What a great title and subtitle that we can dig into a little bit.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, I mean, obviously, it sounds like you\u2019re saying the same thing: <em>So Long, Normal. <\/em>\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Does that mean: \u201cWe don't want to go back to normal?\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Well, I think a lot of it is the past couple of years have shown us how kind of fixated we can be on things getting back to normal\u2014how much we can place our <em>hope<\/em> in\u2014\u201cOh, if things could just be normal, and sturdy, and reliable, and things not get cancelled every\/every time I turn around.\u201d [Laughter] But I think what it's kind of opened our eyes to is we're looking to this world for a sturdy foundation that we should have never expected in the first place. And as believers, the Scriptures speak very clearly that there\u2019s only one sure and steady thing; and that\u2019s God.\n\nSo if <em>nothing<\/em> else, we've really learned to\u2014no longer allow our hope to be set on the things of this world\/on the <em>normal<\/em> of this world\u2014but to set it upon our God.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And how did that work for you?\u2014because you're a songwriter, singer, traveling artist.\n\n<strong>Laura: <\/strong>Oh, gracious.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is your <em>third<\/em> book.\n\n<strong>Laura: <\/strong>Yes.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, you\u2019ve got kids.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes. The best two years; interesting.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re married.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Your whole life had to be shut down as well; right?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; and so me writing this\u2014you know, there have been books before that I've written\u2014like I've been kind of thinking about or studying something for a couple of years; and then, \u201cOh, I'm going to write a book about it.\u201d This was very much what I was learning in real time, and that was a little bit scary. So even, you know, if you pick up the book, you may go, \u201cOh, it sounds like she's very much in process.\u201d [Laughter]\n\nI was kind of responding the same way that everyone else was those very early quarantine days of: \u201cEverything\u2019s being cancelled.\u201d So for me, I\u2019m completely off the road, just like <em>overnight<\/em>. Yes, the same thing you were talking about: where I probably had 40 to 50 trips; 2 to 3 of them being international trips.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Basically, everything was canceled.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; so there's this anxiety of this thing that's my <em>job<\/em>. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, exactly.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And you are the <em>provider<\/em> in many ways.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; I'll tell you the funniest thing\u2014and moms can relate to this, especially working moms\u2014I went from, you know, my Friday nights being spent on stage, where people are like clapping for songs I\u2019ve just sung\u2014to fixing dinner every\/fixing three meals a day for all of these people; and them kind of turning their noses, \u201cOh, <em>this<\/em>?\u201d [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> A little different reality; huh?\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cPeople actually clap for me, you guys\u201d; come on!\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> I know; I know. It was very, very jarring, but it really made me look at myself and go like, \u201cWho am I <em>apart<\/em> from this thing that I <em>do<\/em>?\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, Laura, just give us a snapshot of your past\u2014\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014of what's happened.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; so a big part of our story\u2014which I think is what you're referring to is\u2014so my husband, Martin, and I have been married for 18 years. They\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201418?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; they've been wonderful years and hard years. Anyone [who\u2019s] been married more than like 18 minutes knows that it\u2019s going to be wonderful and hard at the same time. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It took us about eight.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes, yes; y'all are quick learners. But for us, it got hard pretty quick when Martin was diagnosed with a brain tumor within our first two years of marriage.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, he fell asleep driving; right?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; it was about a year of them trying to figure out what the problem was. When he was finally\/when we finally got the news that it was a brain tumor, we scheduled the surgery. We were planning on going in and having the tumor removed; and then, maybe be in the hospital about a week. But it ended up, we were there for about three months; he endured a lot of complications.\n\nAnd when we finally left\/finally left that hospital, three months later, we were so excited about leaving; but it was clear to us, pretty quickly, that our life that we had known before, we couldn't necessarily return to it. Martin had a pretty substantial brain injury due to the surgery and the complications; and so that, really for us, was the beginning of embracing a new normal.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I was going to say you would <em>never<\/em> return to that normal that you used to have.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes, and it\u2019s such a confusing thing also\u2014not just as young\/you know, newlyweds\u2014but as believers. I think that we had this picture of what our marriage was going to look like, and even on some level, the picture of God's good plan for our lives. Even though the Bible doesn't teach this, I had somehow come to believe: \u201cIf I can just pray enough, be good enough, then God eventually will work things out the way that I think that He should for my circumstances.\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Exactly!\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> And so the past\u2014I guess 16 years\u2014has been a lot of us, obviously, growing in our faith. But more than that, I feel like so often I'm praying that prayer that Jesus did in the garden right before He faced the cross, where He says, \u201cI wish things were different, but not My will but Yours be done.\u201d\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Now, was that a journey or did that come quickly? [Laughter] I mean, I'm thinking it was a journey. For me, it would be a\u2014\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Did you ask, \u201c<em>Was<\/em> it a journey?\u201d It <em>is<\/em> a journey. Man, if you came and saw us\/if you watched us, day in and day out, you may wonder why we're not further along in it\/in the journey than we are.\n\nBut it really is\/it's something, where we've had to begin to embrace that: \u201cThis is part of our lives. It's not a <em>season<\/em> that we walk through.\u201d That's\/that's tough, too, because\u2014as a minister\/as a songwriter\u2014I grew up in church, hearing people give testimonies about God's goodness. It always went something like this bad thing happened: \u201cI surrendered it all and then, all of a sudden,\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cI\u2019m good.\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cGod fixed everything.\u201d Yes; it took me a few years to realize it's just <em>not<\/em> going to be our story. And it's not that God <em>couldn't<\/em> completely heal my husband; I know that God <em>can<\/em>. But for whatever reason, He hasn't chosen to do it in the time frame that I expected; He hasn't chosen to do it in the way that I would have wished. I really\/I have a choice\u2014I can either trust that His plan is best; I can either trust that His character is good\u2014or I can't call him Lord anymore.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow. You\u2019re saying that\u2014I think we\/a lot of us say that, especially with what we've gone through these last few years, is like, \u201cWe just want to return to normal,\u201d\u2014and you're saying, \u201cIs that a worthy enough goal?\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes. [Laughter] And you know God: God never speaks in Scriptures about normal being the goal.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Right!\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> One of the neatest things, as I was writing the book, it wasn't\u2014I think I started off, thinking: \u201cI just want to encourage people that just to not place their hope in normal,\u201d and \u201cHey, we're going to make it through this,\u201d and \u201cIt was going to be okay; God is with us.\u201d\n\nBut the more I begin to look at the Scriptures\u2014actually, it was pretty exciting\u2014because what I began to see: it's not just that God is <em>with<\/em> us in our shakiness and in the chaos. What I saw was, story after story, of God doing incredible works through individuals, that every single one of those began with Him calling them away from that which was familiar and that which was comfortable.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, give us an example.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> You think about Mary. You think about the normal first years of marriage that she was expecting. And then, all of a sudden, she finds out that she's pregnant, <em>before<\/em> the wedding, with the Son of God. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How about that?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Seriously; it shifted everything in her life.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> It truly did. But the neatest thing is to see that Mary's <em>response<\/em> was she simply says, \u201cBehold, I am a servant of the Lord. Let it be to me according to Your word,\u201d\u2014and just this posture of\u2014\u201cOkay, this is not what I saw coming.\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I guess I'm not like Mary; like, \u201cWhat? Wait, what are you doing, Lord?!\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> \u201cWhat? I need some more details, angel,\u201d\/\u201cAngel that just showed up in my bedroom, I need some more details about this.\u201d [Laughter] But rather, Mary just says, \u201cI'm Your servant; let Your will be done.\u201d\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Although, I\u2019ve just got to mention\u2014I'm sure you feel this\u2014sometimes, that's so hard.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Oh! <em>All the time,<\/em> that\u2019s so hard.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Even when I read the title of your book, <em>So Long, Normal<\/em>, I'm like, \u201cNo! I don't want to say, \u2018So long,\u2019 to normal.\u201d There's a part of me that's like, \u201cI like the familiar. I like knowing what today is going to carry into tomorrow.\u201d And when that <em>doesn't<\/em> happen, there's this disappointment that grips us; at times, we\u2019re like, \u201cOh, I'm disappointed. I <em>like<\/em> normal, but\u2026\u201d\u00a0 Answer that.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> One of the things that I even talk about in the book is that we don't need to beat ourselves up about desiring normal;\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> \u2014because in a lot of ways, we were created for that. We were created for the stability and the protection of the garden. We were created to live in such sweet community with our Father that it kind of makes sense why. Because a lot of what we want from normal\u2014when you think about like, \u201cWhat am I looking for in just hoping things will get back to normal?\u201d\u2014well, we don't want our hearts to be broken; we don't want our expectations to be dashed; we're looking for predictability and protection, because we were created for that.\n\nOne of the stories that I talk about a little bit was looking at the Israelites that are\/they've <em>left<\/em> Egypt. They've left the yoke of slavery in Egypt, and they're headed to the Promised Land. They get in such a weary state\u2014I don't know if this sounds familiar at all\u2014[Laughter]\u2014they get to such a weary state that they begin to think about: \u201cOh, wasn't it so <em>great<\/em>?\u2014all we had in Egypt.\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> \u201cNo, no; you were slaves.\u201d But they began to think\/think back to it and just kind of painting pictures <em>way<\/em> better than they had it. But the thing\u2014I think it's Psalm 90, where the psalmist talks about the Lord being their dwelling place from generation to generation\u2014it's not going back to the old way of stability, and it's not even placing our hope upon a stability in the future that may or may not come. It's believing our stability, now, is found in a person: the Lord is our dwelling place, and we can rest in Him.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I have a good friend: her son was diagnosed with cancer when he was ten.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Oh, gracious!\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> The family was <em>rocked<\/em> and devastated. It was stage four, and so they really thought that this son would not make it. And she said, every single day, she was like: \u201cI just want my life back to what it was. I just want to get back to <em>normal<\/em>.\u201d And so every single night, she said, \u201cI could not get through an <em>hour<\/em> without God,\u201d and \u201cI was on my knees, begging God, \u2018I pray, God, that You would let him live.\u2019\u201d And she said, \u201cI have never ever felt the closeness of God the way I did.\u201d She said \u201cI felt His presence in a way that I felt Him next to me; I had His peace.\u201d She said it was supernatural.\n\nMiraculously, he was healed. He went through treatment; he's now close to 30,\u2014\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Wow.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and he's becoming a doctor. But she just told me the other day\/she said, \u201cThis is going to sound <em>crazy<\/em>\u2014because I was begging God to get back to normal\u2014and now that I'm back to normal, I'm petrified because I miss the days\u2014\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cthat I needed Jesus so desperately. Because now, I can get through a day without Him; and that scares me to death.\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Wow! Even how we do ministry and how we reflect God to others\u2014you know, when things are normal\u2014we have a way of coming across as very independent and self-sufficient.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> But the Scriptures teach us so clearly that God is most glorified in our <em>dependence<\/em> and when our <em>need<\/em> for Him is showcased. When our <em>weakness<\/em> is seen, His strength is seen all the more through us.\n\nI can definitely say that what we\u2019ve walked through, as a family\u2014and not walked through, but what we <em>currently<\/em> walk through\u2014it puts us in a place of dependence, both on God and on others; it puts us in a place of utter neediness. Like I\/I can't even begin to tell you how not put together we are. [Laughter] If you were to come to my house, you'd be like, \u201cWhoa!\u201d You might call like some government services or something. But the truth is: we\/our neediness for God is seen very clearly. I <em>used<\/em> to think that was a bad thing.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> But now, I know that His strength is seen through my weakness\u2014and I know that, not just in an: \u201cOh, I know that verse,\u201d\u2014but I know that in a very real and tangible way.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; it's interesting, even listening to you just make those remarks, you\u2019ve got a smile on your face; you're <em>laughing<\/em>. It isn't just, you know, \u201cHe's my source of strength.\u201d It's actually\u2014you tell me if I'm reading it wrong\u2014but He's even your source of <em>joy<\/em>\u2014\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes, absolutely.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014in the middle of the valley.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> There's a verse in Proverbs 31. It\u2019s funny when women talk about [Laughter] Proverbs 31.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> You're like, \u201cUh, there's not a <em>whole<\/em> lot that I could relate to there.\u201d [Laughter] But it talks about how this woman says she clothes herself in fine linens, and she laughs at the days to come. I've always looked at that verse and thought, \u201cIf someone was describing me, it would probably be something like, \u2018She clothes herself in free women\u2019s event T-shirts; [Laughter] and she lies awake at night, wringing her hands at the days to come.\u2019\u201d I'd say\u2014\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, I think a lot of us do that, as women.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; I'd say that that is who I've been for a long time. But a few years ago, I just came to a point, where I said, \u201cIf I believe God to be who He says He is, then I cannot live that way any longer.\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What happened that took you there?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Well, I turned 40. [Laughter] I turned 40 and had one of those, like: \u201cWhen I grow up, I'm going to be more spiritual,\u201d \u201cWhen I grow up, I'm going to be this\u201d; \u201c\u2026I'm going to be that.\u201d But realizing\u2014I don't really know what it was\u2014something about\u2014\n\n<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You realize, \u201cI am grown up.\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Well, the other thing is\u2014not to go too deep on this\u2014but when you have children, you begin to see things about your life that you didn't see before.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, let's talk.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> They're like a mirror.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What did you see?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> [Laughter] Things like\u2014so one of my twins\u2014so we have a 9-year-old named Josie; twin boys, Ben and Griffin; and then our little Timothy, who's 3. One day\u2014this was\/this was just a few months ago\u2014Benjamin\/I'm doing bedtime with him; and he says to me, \u201cMom, I want to have a day that's so stressed out.\u201d [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> I said, \u201cWhat?!\u201d; and he goes, \u201cJust where, like you pick us up; and we're going so fast\u2014we're running to this and that\u2014and we're just so stressed out. We just do so many things so fast; we're so stressed out.\u201d [Laughter] I\u2019m thinking, \u201cOh, my gracious; <em>this<\/em> is what I'm teaching my children.\u201d [Laughter]\n\nBut back to kind of the Proverbs 31 picture, I truly want to be that person that\u2014when my kids look at my God through me\/when they begin to learn about who God is\u2014do they really believe, not just through my words, but through my life that He is provider? If I tell them: \u201cHe is our provider,\u201d \u201cHe is enough; we can depend on Him\u201d; but I'm going to come up with Plan A, B, C, D, and E,\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh yes.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> \u2014<em>just<\/em> in case. Or do they see me trusting God <em>so much<\/em> that I truly can be that woman that laughs at the days to come?\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> How do we do <em>So Long, Normal<\/em>. How do we do it? It's so easy to hold onto it [normal], and to almost grasp it; it's almost like our security. And you're saying, \u201cNo, it's time to say goodbye to normal.\u201d How do we say, \u201cGoodbye\u201d?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Well, I think there's some people that are being called to say, \u201cGoodbye to normal\u201d; and whether that's just a new chapter that they're just not quite ready to leave that old chapter. For some people, normal is a goodbye to them\u2014whether that's the end of a marriage or whether that's just the next season of life\u2014that's\/you know, a new job\/just something that's happened to make them need to embrace it.\n\nI think, more than anything, it's acknowledging that\u2014and I just said this earlier\u2014but acknowledging that the stability and security that we're looking for in our circumstances\u2014circumstances will let us down\u2014that we can only find that temporarily. But the fact that we have someone\/the person of God\u2014that His character is sturdy; the fact that He\/His nature is unchanging: the same yesterday, today and forever; and His promises are rock solid\u2014that that's the sturdiness; and that's all the sturdiness we could ever <em>need<\/em> is found in Him. I know that that's a <em>hard<\/em> thing, especially when people are going through such <em>tough<\/em> chapters.\n\nI think the bigger thing that God has been showing me, regarding that is, that sometimes, He <em>allows<\/em> those faulty, less secure normal. Sometimes, He actually sovereignly <em>allows<\/em> those things to come out from under us; because of His love and mercy.\n\n<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\n<strong>Shelby:<\/strong> When I was a kid, I was raised as a military brat\u2014meaning my dad was in the Air Force, and we traveled all the time\u2014so normal, for me, was constant change. I remember going through that, and just despising the fact that it was constantly shaking up my life\u2014the moves every year or two\u2014constantly shaking things up and making me feel like I <em>longed<\/em> for a different life.\n\nBut looking back on that now, as an adult, the change is what made me who I am today. So my normal, even though it didn't feel like normal, was actually something that God was using and weaving all through my childhood to prepare me for the ministry that I'm in today. And now, I'm grateful.\n\nDave and Ann Wilson have been talking today with Laura Story to help us understand that \u201cnormal\u201d can be thrown out of whack in our lives. And it's often what God uses to shape and form us more into the image of His Son Jesus. And that's always\/always a good thing.\n\nShe has written a book called <em>So Long, Normal: Living and Loving the Freefall of Faith<\/em>. We believe in this book; and when you head over to FamilyLifeToday.com and make a donation of any amount, we want to send you a copy of Laura Story\u2019s book, <em>So Long, Normal<\/em>. This book will help you process the trauma of loss of your normal in the past\u2014learn to rest in God's plan for you\u2014instead of constantly trying to control your circumstances and so much more. When you go to FamilyLifeToday.com, and make a donation, you can request your copy there. We'll send you one as a thank-you gift. Or you could call us at 1-800-358-6329; that's 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\nOften, when we think about normal, we want things to be just <em>easy<\/em>. And so many times in marriage, when we're examining both us and our spouse, things are not normal. Things feel very out of whack, in fact; and that's one of the reasons why we, at FamilyLife, have created the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> event. Today is the last day that you could sign up and get 43 percent off, as a couple, when you register at FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\nWhen you go to a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> event, you're making a new commitment to your marriage; and you're going to see what God <em>will do<\/em> in a short course of three days to transform, not only your relationship with your spouse, but your relationship with God as well. When you make a new commitment to your marriage, you can discover that He can, not only repair your relationship with your spouse, but you could see Him repair your relationship with <em>Him<\/em> as well.\n\nHead over to FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014find a location that's near to you; or you could pack the car and head out on a vacation; or you could jet off to a new location that's kind of far away and enjoy a weekend with your spouse\u2014all of that is available at FamilyLifeToday.com. Or you could pick up the phone and call us at 1-800-358-6329; that's 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\nNow, if this content today from Laura Story, or any of our FamilyLife programs have been helpful for you, we'd really love it if you'd share today's podcast with a family member or a friend. And wherever you get your podcasts, it could really advance the gospel effort of what we're doing at FamilyLife if you'd scroll down and rate and review us.\n\nNow, tomorrow, Dave and Ann Wilson are going to be talking, again, with Laura Story about the fact that, sometimes, God changes our normal for a very specific purpose. That's coming up tomorrow. We hope you can join us.\n\nOn behalf of Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Shelby Abbott. 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On FamilyLife Today, Dave &amp; Ann Wilson host singer-songwriter Laura Story, who talks about life upended -- a God who is enough to be our fortress and resting place.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylife.com\/fl2022-04-04.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong><em>FamilyLife Today<\/em><\/strong><strong><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/strong> <strong>National Radio Version (time edited) Transcript<\/strong>\n\n<em>References to conferences, resources, or other special promotions may be obsolete.<\/em>\n\n<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\n<strong>When Normal Blows Up in Your Face<\/strong>\n\nGuest: \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Laura Story\n\nFrom the series:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Laura Story: So Long, Normal (Day 1 of 2)\n\nAir date:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 April 4, 2022\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> We've had to begin to embrace that this is part of our lives. And it's not that God <em>couldn't<\/em> completely heal my husband; I know that God <em>can<\/em>. But for whatever reason, He hasn't chosen to do it in the timeframe that I expected\/hasn't chosen to do it in the way that I would have wished. I really\/I have a choice\u2014I can either trust that His plan is best; I can either trust that His character is good\u2014or I can't call him Lord anymore.\n\n<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Ann Wilson.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m Dave Wilson, and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\nSo what's one thing that we did before the pandemic that you hope we <em>never<\/em> ever go back to?\n\n<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I don't know; do you have an answer? I have an answer.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What?\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, I immediately think we were <em>crazy<\/em>\u2014I\u2019m going to say <em>I<\/em> was crazy\u2014traveling the country; doing marriage conferences; saying, \u201cYes,\u201d to almost every ministry opportunity\u2014so we're on planes; we're in hotels; we\u2019re in churches, speaking\u2014doing great things\u2014but it was\/we were <em>fried<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I'm <em>shocked<\/em> that you're saying this. [Laughter] You <em>thrive<\/em> on this schedule.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You\u2019re so\/she\u2019s so happy right now.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m so like, \u201cThank you, Jesus.\u201d\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> She was telling me over and over: \u201cWe\u2019ve got to slow down,\u201d \u201cWe\u2019ve got to slow down,\u201d like\u2014\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I thought you loved it though.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I know, and what did I say every time? \u201cOh, we're just in a season. It'll end quickly\u201d; and the season kept going. I kept saying, \u201cYes.\u201d I'm\/I'm blaming <em>me<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And I wanted everything back to the way it used to be.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; normal.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I'm hoping we never go back to that. And the reason we're talking about this, is what?\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We have Laura Story with us today in the studio. Laura, welcome.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yay! Thanks so much for having me.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You\u2019re sitting over here, like trying to jump in, as we\u2019re having this little conversation.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> No, no; I'm just listening and learning. Whenever I'm with you two, I just <em>listen<\/em> [Laughter]; and I just soak it all in.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Because you're thinking\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014just like our kids\u2014our kids never said that to us\/they never said, \u201cWe're learning from Mom and Dad.\u201d [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Because you should be thinking, \u201cWhat <em>not<\/em> to do.\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura: <\/strong>Oh, come on.\n\n<strong>Ann: \u201c<\/strong>Oh, we just got it.\u201d\n\nYour book is <em>So Long, Normal: Living and Loving the Freefall of Faith<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes!\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What a great title and subtitle that we can dig into a little bit.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, I mean, obviously, it sounds like you\u2019re saying the same thing: <em>So Long, Normal. <\/em>\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Does that mean: \u201cWe don't want to go back to normal?\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Well, I think a lot of it is the past couple of years have shown us how kind of fixated we can be on things getting back to normal\u2014how much we can place our <em>hope<\/em> in\u2014\u201cOh, if things could just be normal, and sturdy, and reliable, and things not get cancelled every\/every time I turn around.\u201d [Laughter] But I think what it's kind of opened our eyes to is we're looking to this world for a sturdy foundation that we should have never expected in the first place. And as believers, the Scriptures speak very clearly that there\u2019s only one sure and steady thing; and that\u2019s God.\n\nSo if <em>nothing<\/em> else, we've really learned to\u2014no longer allow our hope to be set on the things of this world\/on the <em>normal<\/em> of this world\u2014but to set it upon our God.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And how did that work for you?\u2014because you're a songwriter, singer, traveling artist.\n\n<strong>Laura: <\/strong>Oh, gracious.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is your <em>third<\/em> book.\n\n<strong>Laura: <\/strong>Yes.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, you\u2019ve got kids.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes. The best two years; interesting.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re married.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Your whole life had to be shut down as well; right?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; and so me writing this\u2014you know, there have been books before that I've written\u2014like I've been kind of thinking about or studying something for a couple of years; and then, \u201cOh, I'm going to write a book about it.\u201d This was very much what I was learning in real time, and that was a little bit scary. So even, you know, if you pick up the book, you may go, \u201cOh, it sounds like she's very much in process.\u201d [Laughter]\n\nI was kind of responding the same way that everyone else was those very early quarantine days of: \u201cEverything\u2019s being cancelled.\u201d So for me, I\u2019m completely off the road, just like <em>overnight<\/em>. Yes, the same thing you were talking about: where I probably had 40 to 50 trips; 2 to 3 of them being international trips.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Basically, everything was canceled.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; so there's this anxiety of this thing that's my <em>job<\/em>. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, exactly.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And you are the <em>provider<\/em> in many ways.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; I'll tell you the funniest thing\u2014and moms can relate to this, especially working moms\u2014I went from, you know, my Friday nights being spent on stage, where people are like clapping for songs I\u2019ve just sung\u2014to fixing dinner every\/fixing three meals a day for all of these people; and them kind of turning their noses, \u201cOh, <em>this<\/em>?\u201d [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> A little different reality; huh?\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cPeople actually clap for me, you guys\u201d; come on!\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> I know; I know. It was very, very jarring, but it really made me look at myself and go like, \u201cWho am I <em>apart<\/em> from this thing that I <em>do<\/em>?\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, Laura, just give us a snapshot of your past\u2014\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014of what's happened.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; so a big part of our story\u2014which I think is what you're referring to is\u2014so my husband, Martin, and I have been married for 18 years. They\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201418?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; they've been wonderful years and hard years. Anyone [who\u2019s] been married more than like 18 minutes knows that it\u2019s going to be wonderful and hard at the same time. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It took us about eight.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes, yes; y'all are quick learners. But for us, it got hard pretty quick when Martin was diagnosed with a brain tumor within our first two years of marriage.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, he fell asleep driving; right?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; it was about a year of them trying to figure out what the problem was. When he was finally\/when we finally got the news that it was a brain tumor, we scheduled the surgery. We were planning on going in and having the tumor removed; and then, maybe be in the hospital about a week. But it ended up, we were there for about three months; he endured a lot of complications.\n\nAnd when we finally left\/finally left that hospital, three months later, we were so excited about leaving; but it was clear to us, pretty quickly, that our life that we had known before, we couldn't necessarily return to it. Martin had a pretty substantial brain injury due to the surgery and the complications; and so that, really for us, was the beginning of embracing a new normal.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I was going to say you would <em>never<\/em> return to that normal that you used to have.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes, and it\u2019s such a confusing thing also\u2014not just as young\/you know, newlyweds\u2014but as believers. I think that we had this picture of what our marriage was going to look like, and even on some level, the picture of God's good plan for our lives. Even though the Bible doesn't teach this, I had somehow come to believe: \u201cIf I can just pray enough, be good enough, then God eventually will work things out the way that I think that He should for my circumstances.\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Exactly!\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> And so the past\u2014I guess 16 years\u2014has been a lot of us, obviously, growing in our faith. But more than that, I feel like so often I'm praying that prayer that Jesus did in the garden right before He faced the cross, where He says, \u201cI wish things were different, but not My will but Yours be done.\u201d\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Now, was that a journey or did that come quickly? [Laughter] I mean, I'm thinking it was a journey. For me, it would be a\u2014\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Did you ask, \u201c<em>Was<\/em> it a journey?\u201d It <em>is<\/em> a journey. Man, if you came and saw us\/if you watched us, day in and day out, you may wonder why we're not further along in it\/in the journey than we are.\n\nBut it really is\/it's something, where we've had to begin to embrace that: \u201cThis is part of our lives. It's not a <em>season<\/em> that we walk through.\u201d That's\/that's tough, too, because\u2014as a minister\/as a songwriter\u2014I grew up in church, hearing people give testimonies about God's goodness. It always went something like this bad thing happened: \u201cI surrendered it all and then, all of a sudden,\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cI\u2019m good.\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cGod fixed everything.\u201d Yes; it took me a few years to realize it's just <em>not<\/em> going to be our story. And it's not that God <em>couldn't<\/em> completely heal my husband; I know that God <em>can<\/em>. But for whatever reason, He hasn't chosen to do it in the time frame that I expected; He hasn't chosen to do it in the way that I would have wished. I really\/I have a choice\u2014I can either trust that His plan is best; I can either trust that His character is good\u2014or I can't call him Lord anymore.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow. You\u2019re saying that\u2014I think we\/a lot of us say that, especially with what we've gone through these last few years, is like, \u201cWe just want to return to normal,\u201d\u2014and you're saying, \u201cIs that a worthy enough goal?\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes. [Laughter] And you know God: God never speaks in Scriptures about normal being the goal.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Right!\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> One of the neatest things, as I was writing the book, it wasn't\u2014I think I started off, thinking: \u201cI just want to encourage people that just to not place their hope in normal,\u201d and \u201cHey, we're going to make it through this,\u201d and \u201cIt was going to be okay; God is with us.\u201d\n\nBut the more I begin to look at the Scriptures\u2014actually, it was pretty exciting\u2014because what I began to see: it's not just that God is <em>with<\/em> us in our shakiness and in the chaos. What I saw was, story after story, of God doing incredible works through individuals, that every single one of those began with Him calling them away from that which was familiar and that which was comfortable.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, give us an example.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> You think about Mary. You think about the normal first years of marriage that she was expecting. And then, all of a sudden, she finds out that she's pregnant, <em>before<\/em> the wedding, with the Son of God. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How about that?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Seriously; it shifted everything in her life.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> It truly did. But the neatest thing is to see that Mary's <em>response<\/em> was she simply says, \u201cBehold, I am a servant of the Lord. Let it be to me according to Your word,\u201d\u2014and just this posture of\u2014\u201cOkay, this is not what I saw coming.\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I guess I'm not like Mary; like, \u201cWhat? Wait, what are you doing, Lord?!\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> \u201cWhat? I need some more details, angel,\u201d\/\u201cAngel that just showed up in my bedroom, I need some more details about this.\u201d [Laughter] But rather, Mary just says, \u201cI'm Your servant; let Your will be done.\u201d\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Although, I\u2019ve just got to mention\u2014I'm sure you feel this\u2014sometimes, that's so hard.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Oh! <em>All the time,<\/em> that\u2019s so hard.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Even when I read the title of your book, <em>So Long, Normal<\/em>, I'm like, \u201cNo! I don't want to say, \u2018So long,\u2019 to normal.\u201d There's a part of me that's like, \u201cI like the familiar. I like knowing what today is going to carry into tomorrow.\u201d And when that <em>doesn't<\/em> happen, there's this disappointment that grips us; at times, we\u2019re like, \u201cOh, I'm disappointed. I <em>like<\/em> normal, but\u2026\u201d\u00a0 Answer that.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> One of the things that I even talk about in the book is that we don't need to beat ourselves up about desiring normal;\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> \u2014because in a lot of ways, we were created for that. We were created for the stability and the protection of the garden. We were created to live in such sweet community with our Father that it kind of makes sense why. Because a lot of what we want from normal\u2014when you think about like, \u201cWhat am I looking for in just hoping things will get back to normal?\u201d\u2014well, we don't want our hearts to be broken; we don't want our expectations to be dashed; we're looking for predictability and protection, because we were created for that.\n\nOne of the stories that I talk about a little bit was looking at the Israelites that are\/they've <em>left<\/em> Egypt. They've left the yoke of slavery in Egypt, and they're headed to the Promised Land. They get in such a weary state\u2014I don't know if this sounds familiar at all\u2014[Laughter]\u2014they get to such a weary state that they begin to think about: \u201cOh, wasn't it so <em>great<\/em>?\u2014all we had in Egypt.\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> \u201cNo, no; you were slaves.\u201d But they began to think\/think back to it and just kind of painting pictures <em>way<\/em> better than they had it. But the thing\u2014I think it's Psalm 90, where the psalmist talks about the Lord being their dwelling place from generation to generation\u2014it's not going back to the old way of stability, and it's not even placing our hope upon a stability in the future that may or may not come. It's believing our stability, now, is found in a person: the Lord is our dwelling place, and we can rest in Him.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I have a good friend: her son was diagnosed with cancer when he was ten.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Oh, gracious!\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> The family was <em>rocked<\/em> and devastated. It was stage four, and so they really thought that this son would not make it. And she said, every single day, she was like: \u201cI just want my life back to what it was. I just want to get back to <em>normal<\/em>.\u201d And so every single night, she said, \u201cI could not get through an <em>hour<\/em> without God,\u201d and \u201cI was on my knees, begging God, \u2018I pray, God, that You would let him live.\u2019\u201d And she said, \u201cI have never ever felt the closeness of God the way I did.\u201d She said \u201cI felt His presence in a way that I felt Him next to me; I had His peace.\u201d She said it was supernatural.\n\nMiraculously, he was healed. He went through treatment; he's now close to 30,\u2014\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Wow.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and he's becoming a doctor. But she just told me the other day\/she said, \u201cThis is going to sound <em>crazy<\/em>\u2014because I was begging God to get back to normal\u2014and now that I'm back to normal, I'm petrified because I miss the days\u2014\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cthat I needed Jesus so desperately. Because now, I can get through a day without Him; and that scares me to death.\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Wow! Even how we do ministry and how we reflect God to others\u2014you know, when things are normal\u2014we have a way of coming across as very independent and self-sufficient.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> But the Scriptures teach us so clearly that God is most glorified in our <em>dependence<\/em> and when our <em>need<\/em> for Him is showcased. When our <em>weakness<\/em> is seen, His strength is seen all the more through us.\n\nI can definitely say that what we\u2019ve walked through, as a family\u2014and not walked through, but what we <em>currently<\/em> walk through\u2014it puts us in a place of dependence, both on God and on others; it puts us in a place of utter neediness. Like I\/I can't even begin to tell you how not put together we are. [Laughter] If you were to come to my house, you'd be like, \u201cWhoa!\u201d You might call like some government services or something. But the truth is: we\/our neediness for God is seen very clearly. I <em>used<\/em> to think that was a bad thing.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> But now, I know that His strength is seen through my weakness\u2014and I know that, not just in an: \u201cOh, I know that verse,\u201d\u2014but I know that in a very real and tangible way.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; it's interesting, even listening to you just make those remarks, you\u2019ve got a smile on your face; you're <em>laughing<\/em>. It isn't just, you know, \u201cHe's my source of strength.\u201d It's actually\u2014you tell me if I'm reading it wrong\u2014but He's even your source of <em>joy<\/em>\u2014\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes, absolutely.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014in the middle of the valley.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> There's a verse in Proverbs 31. It\u2019s funny when women talk about [Laughter] Proverbs 31.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> You're like, \u201cUh, there's not a <em>whole<\/em> lot that I could relate to there.\u201d [Laughter] But it talks about how this woman says she clothes herself in fine linens, and she laughs at the days to come. I've always looked at that verse and thought, \u201cIf someone was describing me, it would probably be something like, \u2018She clothes herself in free women\u2019s event T-shirts; [Laughter] and she lies awake at night, wringing her hands at the days to come.\u2019\u201d I'd say\u2014\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, I think a lot of us do that, as women.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes; I'd say that that is who I've been for a long time. But a few years ago, I just came to a point, where I said, \u201cIf I believe God to be who He says He is, then I cannot live that way any longer.\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What happened that took you there?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Well, I turned 40. [Laughter] I turned 40 and had one of those, like: \u201cWhen I grow up, I'm going to be more spiritual,\u201d \u201cWhen I grow up, I'm going to be this\u201d; \u201c\u2026I'm going to be that.\u201d But realizing\u2014I don't really know what it was\u2014something about\u2014\n\n<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You realize, \u201cI am grown up.\u201d\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Well, the other thing is\u2014not to go too deep on this\u2014but when you have children, you begin to see things about your life that you didn't see before.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, let's talk.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> They're like a mirror.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What did you see?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> [Laughter] Things like\u2014so one of my twins\u2014so we have a 9-year-old named Josie; twin boys, Ben and Griffin; and then our little Timothy, who's 3. One day\u2014this was\/this was just a few months ago\u2014Benjamin\/I'm doing bedtime with him; and he says to me, \u201cMom, I want to have a day that's so stressed out.\u201d [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> I said, \u201cWhat?!\u201d; and he goes, \u201cJust where, like you pick us up; and we're going so fast\u2014we're running to this and that\u2014and we're just so stressed out. We just do so many things so fast; we're so stressed out.\u201d [Laughter] I\u2019m thinking, \u201cOh, my gracious; <em>this<\/em> is what I'm teaching my children.\u201d [Laughter]\n\nBut back to kind of the Proverbs 31 picture, I truly want to be that person that\u2014when my kids look at my God through me\/when they begin to learn about who God is\u2014do they really believe, not just through my words, but through my life that He is provider? If I tell them: \u201cHe is our provider,\u201d \u201cHe is enough; we can depend on Him\u201d; but I'm going to come up with Plan A, B, C, D, and E,\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh yes.\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> \u2014<em>just<\/em> in case. Or do they see me trusting God <em>so much<\/em> that I truly can be that woman that laughs at the days to come?\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> How do we do <em>So Long, Normal<\/em>. How do we do it? It's so easy to hold onto it [normal], and to almost grasp it; it's almost like our security. And you're saying, \u201cNo, it's time to say goodbye to normal.\u201d How do we say, \u201cGoodbye\u201d?\n\n<strong>Laura:<\/strong> Well, I think there's some people that are being called to say, \u201cGoodbye to normal\u201d; and whether that's just a new chapter that they're just not quite ready to leave that old chapter. For some people, normal is a goodbye to them\u2014whether that's the end of a marriage or whether that's just the next season of life\u2014that's\/you know, a new job\/just something that's happened to make them need to embrace it.\n\nI think, more than anything, it's acknowledging that\u2014and I just said this earlier\u2014but acknowledging that the stability and security that we're looking for in our circumstances\u2014circumstances will let us down\u2014that we can only find that temporarily. But the fact that we have someone\/the person of God\u2014that His character is sturdy; the fact that He\/His nature is unchanging: the same yesterday, today and forever; and His promises are rock solid\u2014that that's the sturdiness; and that's all the sturdiness we could ever <em>need<\/em> is found in Him. I know that that's a <em>hard<\/em> thing, especially when people are going through such <em>tough<\/em> chapters.\n\nI think the bigger thing that God has been showing me, regarding that is, that sometimes, He <em>allows<\/em> those faulty, less secure normal. Sometimes, He actually sovereignly <em>allows<\/em> those things to come out from under us; because of His love and mercy.\n\n<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\n<strong>Shelby:<\/strong> When I was a kid, I was raised as a military brat\u2014meaning my dad was in the Air Force, and we traveled all the time\u2014so normal, for me, was constant change. I remember going through that, and just despising the fact that it was constantly shaking up my life\u2014the moves every year or two\u2014constantly shaking things up and making me feel like I <em>longed<\/em> for a different life.\n\nBut looking back on that now, as an adult, the change is what made me who I am today. So my normal, even though it didn't feel like normal, was actually something that God was using and weaving all through my childhood to prepare me for the ministry that I'm in today. And now, I'm grateful.\n\nDave and Ann Wilson have been talking today with Laura Story to help us understand that \u201cnormal\u201d can be thrown out of whack in our lives. And it's often what God uses to shape and form us more into the image of His Son Jesus. And that's always\/always a good thing.\n\nShe has written a book called <em>So Long, Normal: Living and Loving the Freefall of Faith<\/em>. We believe in this book; and when you head over to FamilyLifeToday.com and make a donation of any amount, we want to send you a copy of Laura Story\u2019s book, <em>So Long, Normal<\/em>. This book will help you process the trauma of loss of your normal in the past\u2014learn to rest in God's plan for you\u2014instead of constantly trying to control your circumstances and so much more. When you go to FamilyLifeToday.com, and make a donation, you can request your copy there. We'll send you one as a thank-you gift. Or you could call us at 1-800-358-6329; that's 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\nOften, when we think about normal, we want things to be just <em>easy<\/em>. And so many times in marriage, when we're examining both us and our spouse, things are not normal. Things feel very out of whack, in fact; and that's one of the reasons why we, at FamilyLife, have created the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> event. Today is the last day that you could sign up and get 43 percent off, as a couple, when you register at FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\nWhen you go to a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> event, you're making a new commitment to your marriage; and you're going to see what God <em>will do<\/em> in a short course of three days to transform, not only your relationship with your spouse, but your relationship with God as well. When you make a new commitment to your marriage, you can discover that He can, not only repair your relationship with your spouse, but you could see Him repair your relationship with <em>Him<\/em> as well.\n\nHead over to FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014find a location that's near to you; or you could pack the car and head out on a vacation; or you could jet off to a new location that's kind of far away and enjoy a weekend with your spouse\u2014all of that is available at FamilyLifeToday.com. Or you could pick up the phone and call us at 1-800-358-6329; that's 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\nNow, if this content today from Laura Story, or any of our FamilyLife programs have been helpful for you, we'd really love it if you'd share today's podcast with a family member or a friend. And wherever you get your podcasts, it could really advance the gospel effort of what we're doing at FamilyLife if you'd scroll down and rate and review us.\n\nNow, tomorrow, Dave and Ann Wilson are going to be talking, again, with Laura Story about the fact that, sometimes, God changes our normal for a very specific purpose. That's coming up tomorrow. We hope you can join us.\n\nOn behalf of Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Shelby Abbott. 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