{"id":307395,"date":"2022-02-07T08:03:16","date_gmt":"2022-02-07T13:03:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/what-does-real-love-look-like\/"},"modified":"2024-10-24T14:30:17","modified_gmt":"2024-10-24T18:30:17","slug":"what-does-real-love-look-like","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/what-does-real-love-look-like\/","title":{"rendered":"What Does Real Love Look Like?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>What does love look like? Author Sean McDowell looks at the difference between real love, sex, and our craving to be known.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What does love look like? 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Where do you get a good explanation\/definition?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Do you want my Jesus answer, like to the Bible? Or do you want what most people would say?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Most people; because I\u2019m going to tell you what <em>I<\/em> would say.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Maybe the movies, music\u2014oh, <em>music<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I would say music.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> He just pulled out his guitar.<\/p>\n<p>Welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Ann Wilson.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m Dave Wilson, and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>!<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know if they\u2019ll cut this out of the program or not. But I\u2019m thinking I grew up in the \u201870s\u2014the <em>best<\/em> music of all;\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> But was it?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014you know, every song has something\u2014but you\u2019re thinking some of the lyrics that talk about love in the \u201870s. Remember this one? [Dave playing guitar and singing a segment of <em>You Really Got Me Now<\/em>]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I remember that one.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> So that\u2019s love; a girl gets you, so you don\u2019t know what you\u2019re doing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Okay.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> How about\/do you remember The Doors?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave: <\/strong>[Dave playing guitar; Dave and Ann singing a segment of <em>Hello, I Love You<\/em>] Now, so think about what that says. [Laughter] \u201cHello, I love you; I don\u2019t even know your name. I\u2019m just stunned by your beauty.\u201d Or [Dave playing guitar and singing segment of <em>Shallow<\/em>]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019ve always wanted to sing in front of a microphone. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I want <em>you<\/em> to sing. But here\u2019s a song I think they\u2019re all asking. They\u2019re all asking Foreigner\u20141984\u2014they\u2019re asking this question. [Dave playing guitar and singing a clip of <em>I Want to Know What Love Is<\/em>]<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, just a little fun. I mean, it\u2019s crazy to think we go to love songs. The lyrics usually don\u2019t lead us to what real love is.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> But you\u2019re right; every generation\/every decade, we\u2019re asking the same question.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, and so we need help. We\u2019ve got help in the studio with us today. We\u2019ve got Dr. Sean McDowell, who wrote a <em>book<\/em> with the title of love in it, <em>Chasing Love: Love, Sex and Relationships in a Confused Culture<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I was going to say that subtitle is really good because I think, as parents\/as people, we\u2019re asking those questions. They\u2019re at the forefront of our mind in this culture for our kids, because it is confusing. We\u2019re not really sure how to talk to our kids and what to say, and maybe it\u2019s causing us to think, \u201cWhat do <em>I<\/em> believe and think of this?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and really, of all people to talk about this, and write about this, you have such credentials: you teach at Biola; doctorate in apologetics; I mean, you\u2019ve traveled the world; you have a podcast <em>about<\/em> apologetics. You teach at a high school as well; right?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> I do, part time; yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> So you\u2019re around young people all the time, and you\u2019re hearing their questions and their concerns. Here we are, often talking to parents; and we, as parents, are like, \u201cOkay, how do we help teach and guide our young children in our homes, as they become teenagers, in understanding love, sex, and relationships?\u201d You\u2019ve got all of those in your book; so we figured: \u201cLet\u2019s talk love today.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Let\u2019s do it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Here\u2019s the first question though: \u201cWhy this book? I mean, why now?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> I would say there\u2019s a few answers to that\u2014one of them is Scottie, Shauna, and Shane\u2014which are my three kids. My oldest is 17; I actually use this as a textbook in a classroom with him, so we got to go chapter by chapter at my private school.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> You used <em>your<\/em> book?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Absolutely.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s awesome.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> That\u2019s partly why I wrote it, so I could talk with my kids about it in different ways. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> My daughter is 14; she\u2019ll be a high school freshman. She\u2019s a volleyball player, surfer, blonde from Southern California; so I have all the concerns, especially as a dad. [Laughter] And then my son is eight, my youngest, and going into third grade next year.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> So as you go through this with your son and daughter, did they make edits? Did they agree? Did they push back?<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> So with my daughter\u2014what\u2019s interesting: she was 12 when I first started to write it; she just turned 14\u2014and I told her\/I said, \u201cHey, if you\u2019ll read this manuscript, and number one, give me feedback; number two, just go to coffee with me and just talk about it, I\u2019ll buy you a pair of new shoes.\u201d My family, as you know, Dave, we love shoes. [Laughter] She goes, \u201c<em>Dad<\/em>, there\u2019s an outlet down the street; I could get two for the price of one; is that okay?\u201d I was like, \u201cYou could get three for the price of one.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> So bribing is okay at times.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> You know what? It\u2019s whatever it takes!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> So she <em>read<\/em> the whole thing, took notes through it, and then we went out to a coffee shop. We sat down somewhere to an hour\/an hour-and-a-half; and she\u2019s like: \u201cHere\u2019s my favorite example,\u201d \u201cHere\u2019s something I learned.\u201d I was like, \u201cWhat did you think about this chapter?\u201d We just talked it through, father and daughter; there were no lectures. A big piece of this was just helping her feel comfortable, talking with her dad\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> \u2014and we\u2019d done this kind of thing before. But we walked through the content; she gave me a little bit of feedback. I went and bought her a couple of pair of shoes.<\/p>\n<p>Now, my son\u2014this was in a classroom\u2014the cool thing that I loved is by the time\u2014so I teach at Biola, full time\u2014grad program and under-grad, one class\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> What do you teach?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> I\u2019ll teach theology; apologetics\u2014kind of gospel-culture spiritual conversations\/evangelism\u2014stuff like that.<\/p>\n<p>But I teach one high school class, part time, at a private school. My son is in that class\u2014it\u2019s juniors and seniors\u2014so 16- to 18-year-olds. We were using this book, amongst others; and one of his feedback\/he goes, \u201cDad, you and I have already talked about this stuff. There was not a ton new to me.\u201d He kind of almost felt bad saying that. I was like, \u201cThat\u2019s awesome\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> That is good.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cbecause that means we\u2019ve been <em>having<\/em> these conversations for a while, and it just gave me a chance to reinforce it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Way to go!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> It felt good. The question is always: \u201cThey know it in their head; are they going to live it out?\u201d That\u2019s step two, but\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Exactly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> \u2014that\u2019s really why I wrote it\u2014to just give parents a tool to have these conversations with their kids.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and as we read it, it\u2019s a great, great tool. I mean, just to\u2014and you even have a small group\/or a workbook to go with it, which you\u2019ve got a nine-session Bible study for teens\u2014we\u2019ll have that on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014but I mean, what a great discussion to start with a 12-, 13-,14-year-old; because they\u2019re having discussion <em>everywhere<\/em>; and it\u2019s confusing, what they\u2019re hearing in your subtitles.<\/p>\n<p>Where do you start when you get to the love question? Because the culture is saying, \u201cLove is this\u2026\u201d Where do you start? And how would you define what real love is?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> One of the things I tried to do in conversation with my kids is <em>not<\/em> unnecessarily <em>demonize<\/em> culture. One of the things I point out to my son\/in our class, we talked about how, you know, the huge Marvel<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> movies that climaxed recently with <em>Endgame<\/em>. The final episode is Iron Man laying down his life, sacrificially, as an act of heroism and love. What does that remind us of? Jesus said, \u201cGreater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for a friend.\u201d Sometimes, our culture gets love right; sometimes, our culture gets love <em>wrong<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>So for many in this generation, love basically equals affirmation: \u201cWhatever you believe, however you choose to live and understand yourself, I\u2019m only loving if I <em>affirm<\/em> that.\u201d Well, that\u2019s <em>not<\/em> a biblical view of love. A biblical view of love is that I am in favor of what\u2019s <em>objectively best<\/em> for you\u2014whether you realize it or not\u2014to seek the emotional, spiritual, relational best and good for another, even if they don\u2019t realize it. I mean, ironically, the people who put Jesus to death <em>thought<\/em> they were doing what was good; but they\u2019re putting the <em>only<\/em> innocent man <em>ever<\/em> to death. So something\u2019s not right just because we <em>feel<\/em> it or just because we <em>choose<\/em> it.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s where it gets difficult for this generation is they intuitively understand that love is being in favor of somebody\u2019s best; but they have a hard time realizing: \u201cYou know what? Sometimes, that means someone might disagree with you; sometimes they might not like you\u2014they might call you a bigot\u2014but <em>real<\/em> love is being committed to another\u2019s best and being willing to <em>sacrifice<\/em> for it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m so interested in that\u2014because even when you said, as parents, we can demonize the culture\u2014and I think we do that; I remember, when my kids were in high school, I found myself doing that; because I was so <em>fearful<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Sure.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I wanted them to be fearful\u2014like, \u201c<em>No, this is evil<\/em>,\u201d\u2014thinking that will cause them to pull away.<\/p>\n<p>I think it made them more curious, like, \u201cHmm, what do you mean by that?\u201d; you know? As parents, I think we need to look at: \u201c<em>Why<\/em> are we doing that?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and I would just add that I think\u2014even sitting with you at lunch and just watching your life\u2014and pretty cool to see your YouTube channel blowing up [in views] and watching you interact with people with different viewpoints\/different theology\u2014there\u2019s a gentleness in your spirit that communicates love, even when you are,\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014disagreeing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014absolutely, on the other side of the issue.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re honoring everyone.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think we, in the church, have done a very good job of that; that\u2019s <em>loving<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> I think you\u2019re right about that. I mean, Jesus spoke truth; but He had a kindness\/He had a gentleness about him. He turned the other cheek. Sometimes, Christians\/we contribute just as much to the cancel culture as everybody else does. We name call. I mean, look on social media how quick we Christians just criticize, and say things to defend ourselves or win an argument, rather than ask the question: \u201cWhat does it mean to love this person the way that Jesus did?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Now, that\u2019s hard for us, who are adults\u2014and our identity; you know the three of us\/we understand who we are and who God made us to be\u2014but imagine being 12\/imagine being 14, and they\u2019re trying to figure out who they are. These messages from the surrounding culture are just <em>powerful<\/em>. A huge piece of this question\u2014of like love is a part of a larger question: \u201cWho am I?\u201d \u201cWho did God make me to be?\u201d \u201cWhat\u2019s His design for my life?\u201d \u201cWhat does it really mean to love other people?\u201d\u2014those questions sometimes get lost when we just get into the nitty gritty of sex, love, and relationships.<\/p>\n<p>I want to frame this in terms of: \u201cWhat is love?\u201d \u201cHow do we love God?\u201d \u201cHow do we love other people?\u201d Then some of the questions about sexuality start to fall in place.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and start there, because you do that early in the book. You take that question of love, and you go vertical with the: \u201cLove God and love others.\u201d Help a parent understand: \u201cOkay, how would I teach this to my child?\u2014to say, \u2018This is a biblical godly understanding of what love is,\u2019\u2014and as you say, get into identity\/who they are.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Well, one of the best <em>ways<\/em> to teach something is by asking questions. I ask a ton more questions with <em>my<\/em> kids, and in my classroom, than I do just sitting my kids down and go, \u201cLet me give you a definition about this.\u201d [Laughter] So a song comes up on the radio; sometimes, I\u2019ll talk with my kids. If something pops up in a movie\/if it pops up in a song, I\u2019ll just talk with my kids. I\u2019ll say something like, \u201cYou know, that\u2019s pretty interesting. What do you think about that view of relationships? Do you think that\u2019s really loving?\u201d And try to cultivate conversation more than saying \u201cHey, open this up; let me give you a definition.\u201d Although, sometimes, I do that with my kids as well.<\/p>\n<p>So defining love\u2014my dad actually did this to me when I was a kid\u2014took me to Ephesians, Chapter 5, where it says \u201cHusbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church.\u201d Then it says, \u201cLove your wives as you do your own bodies.\u201d So if you want to know how to love your wife, the question is: \u201cHow do you love your own body?\u201d It says: \u201cnurture and cherish it.\u201d Well, without getting into depth in that passage, essentially\u2014and I go into all of this in the book\u2014essentially, it means: to protect and to provide\u2014is what love is.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve said to my son: \u201cIf you\u2019re in a relationship with a girl, the words that you say, your physical touch\u2014the way you treat her\u2014if you love her, you would act in a way that would protect her and provide for her best.\u201d That comes from Ephesians, Chapter 5. So when I was 12 or 13, I remember my dad sharing that with me. It kind of stuck with me, so to speak, almost like a funnel. When I\u2019d hear these songs about love, I\u2019d be thinking, \u201cWell, are they looking out for themselves and what feels good; or are they really protecting and providing for another?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s interesting that you mentioned your dad because\u2014you know, Josh McDowell\u2014I was on a college campus in the \u201870s.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> He came to Ball State University.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Wow.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I picked him up at the airport. I was a part of Athletes in Action<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, a branch of Cru<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>,\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Yes; I know it well.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014back in the day. It was before the \u201cWhy wait?\u201d\u2014I think, in the \u201870s\u2014because \u201cWhy wait?\u201d was more \u201880s.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> That was \u201880s; that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> But isn\u2019t interesting that he\u2019s sort of a focal point of: \u201cWhy wait?\u201d\u2014a campaign that helps young people stay pure, sexually, until marriage; and now, you\u2019re writing a book. There\u2019s a legacy\/a connection there, and your dad teaching you about love. What did you get from your dad about love, even as you watched your mom and dad?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> And did you question any of the things they were teaching you at the time?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Yes, on both of those. I appreciate that you observe that; because writing this was kind of coming full circle, going back and saying: \u201cWhat did my parents teach me?\u201d \u201cWhat do I, maybe, disagree with?\u201d and \u201cHow is this conversation changed?\u201d and \u201cWhat do I agree with?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I would say, hands down, the most <em>powerful<\/em> lesson that my father gave me, along with that definition of love, is that sex is not bad\u2014it\u2019s good, and it\u2019s beautiful\u2014and God\u2019s commandments are to protect and to provide for us; it\u2019s a positive, not a negative. That\u2019s why he started the \u201cWhy wait?\u201d campaign is\/he said, in the \u201880s, the culture\u2014even the church\u2014which is: \u201cSex is bad,\u201d and \u201cIt\u2019s wrong,\u201d\u2014and he\u2019s like, \u201c<em>No<\/em>, it\u2019s good; it\u2019s a blessing; it\u2019s beautiful, but God has given us guidelines to protect us\/to provide for us.\u201d So that lens has been one of the <em>biggest<\/em> things I\u2019ve taken away from growing up.<\/p>\n<p>Probably an area where I differ a little bit is\u2014if you go back to just the way sexuality was taught in the \u201880s and \u201890s\u2014there was almost <em>no<\/em> discussion about singleness; there was <em>none<\/em>. I would argue, as a whole\/as a church, I think we made an idol out of marriage.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Marriage is beautiful\u2014the Bible starts with a marriage; it ends with a wedding\u2014you know the ten commandments, mother and father are three of the ten commandments. Jesus taught on marriage; Paul taught on marriage. It\u2019s <em>huge<\/em>; it\u2019s the metaphor God chooses to demonstrate His love for the church.<\/p>\n<p>But in view of 1 Corinthians 7 and Matthew 19, being married and being single are two equal, God-honoring ways of being in relationship. I think we downplayed singleness; and we\u2019re reaping some of the consequences for that, now, that less people are getting married; and they\u2019re getting married later\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014later.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> \u2014the church, in many circles, feels like, \u201cWell, that\u2019s just for <em>married<\/em> people not for <em>singles,<\/em>\u201d\u2014it\u2019s kind of an add-on.<\/p>\n<p>So in the middle section of the book, once I lay out the beginning\u2014kind of clearing away some of the false ideas\u2014I say: \u201cHere\u2019s God\u2019s idea for sex; it\u2019s design\u201d; and then \u201csingleness,\u201d\u2014I intentionally put it first\u2014and then \u201cGod\u2019s design for marriage.\u201d That\u2019s a piece that I think has been left out of teachings on sexuality in the church, as a whole, that is just frankly not balanced and biblical.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> So as parents, how do we have that conversation? You\u2019re right; we do that, as parents, like, \u201cWhen you get married\u2026\u201d How would we shift that and talk to our kids at the age your kids are right now?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Yes; so when I tuck my son in at night, and I pray for him, we pray for a few things. I\u2019ll just say something like\u2014when I\u2019m praying, I\u2019ll say, \u201cGod, if Shane gets married someday, may You protect his future spouse and prepare him for that marriage.\u201d I choose to qualify it that way, because Jesus was single; Paul was single. I think Jeremiah was; John the Baptist was. Even Paul, in 1 Corinthians 7, is like, \u201cI wish you were like <em>me<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The other thing that does is\u2014I talk to college students, and they feel like they\u2019ve got to get married right away\u2014that even if you get married someday, there\u2019s a season of singleness that we shouldn\u2019t look past. I just <em>frame<\/em> it with my kids a little bit differently.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes, if we have single people over\u2014like in my classroom, I talked about\/we had a conversation one day\u2014like: \u201cHey, who are some of the single teachers on campus?\u201d \u201cWhat do you think are the challenges they\u2019ve thought about?\u201d \u201cHave you ever gone to lunch with them and asked them about their life?\u201d The students are like, \u201cI\u2019ve never thought about this.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cWell, they\u2019re a part of the church; you should be curious about their experience.\u201d So it\u2019s just\/that\u2019s one correction, among others, that I\u2019ve tried to bring in the book.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I know one of the most beautiful moments of my life\u2014and we\u2019ve mentioned it here before, and you just mentioned praying with your son about his future spouse; you know your daughter, her future husband\u2014I took Fridays, for the last 35 years; I know that because my oldest is 35.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Wow.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> When he was born, I decided: \u201cFriday is my fast day, food wise, and I\u2019m going to pray for his future spouse,\u201d before she was even born. You can imagine, on wedding day for all three sons\u2014I\u2019m the dad, but I\u2019m also the pastor\u2014I\u2019m looking at this young woman, who doesn\u2019t know that I\u2019ve been praying for her; I didn\u2019t know her name, but I prayed.<\/p>\n<p>Exactly, when you said that, I\u2019m like, \u201cI prayed the exact prayer: protect her, provide for her, a woman of God.\u201d I\u2019m telling you\u2014I look at her with tears in my eyes, not just because she\u2019s marrying my son\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Sure; sure.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014but it\u2019s like, \u201cLook at what God <em>brought<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Also, all through those years, not doing it perfectly but trying to teach our young. We had three sons, so I was trying to teach them what love looks like and how to protect and love a woman. So hearing you say that, it\u2019s like: \u201cWhat a great action step to do either one of those: you know, do what Sean does every night with his son and daughter; do what we\u2019ve done\u2014or figure out your own way to say, \u201cI\u2019m going to get on my knees for my children, not only to teach them about love\/to show them what love looks like, but to <em>pray<\/em> that God would protect them and provide for them in a powerful, powerful way,\u201d\u2014I just think, \u201cMan, if listeners\/if that\u2019s their action step as a result of today, wow! That could be pretty powerful.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> And Sean, what would your action step be, as we talk about love\u2014as our listeners and parents are thinking: \u201cOh, yes; what can I do?\u201d\u2014what would you suggest with their kids?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> I would say have specific conversations with your kids. I\u2019m actually pretty convinced that most young people, even in the church, have imbibed far more secular ideas about love than biblical ideas. The best way to service this is just, in conversation, asking questions and listening can make a <em>huge<\/em> amount of headway with our kids. Worldview is largely passed on through intentional conversations and relationships. If you haven\u2019t had this conversation, start it now. If you\u2019ve had, be encouraged to go continue it; and do it even more.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s really good.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Figure out what your kids are listening to, and sit down and listen to it with them, and don\u2019t judge it immediately\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014like: \u201cI can\u2019t believe you\u2019re listening to this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I did that; I totally did that when our first was in high school. I\u2019m like, \u201cThis is from Satan!\u201d; you know? [Laughter] So I take this\u2014it was a CD\u2014I throw it in the trashcan.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> She did; I remember this.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m so glad I\u2019m married to Dave, because he takes it out of the trashcan. He\u2019s like, \u201cHey, let\u2019s just kind of <em>listen<\/em> to this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean: <\/strong>Wow.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann: <\/strong>I was so overwhelmed and fearful, which caused me to react instead of respond; but I\u2019m so glad that Dave was like that, because what you\u2019re saying is: \u201cDon\u2019t demonize what they\u2019re listening to, because it shuts down their hearts immediately.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> It does.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s really wise, just to ask questions. Oh, you may hate this song\u2014you may think this is the raunchiest music or movie you\u2019ve ever seen\u2014but to say, \u201cTell me what you think about this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> And you know that doesn\u2019t mean there\u2019s <em>not<\/em> a time to go: \u201cYou know what? This is out of bounds.\u201d I\u2019ve done that sometimes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right; right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> I\u2019ve been like: \u201cYou know what? This is garbage. Listen to what they\u2019re saying, buddy. Stop listening to this.\u201d Sometimes, I\u2019ve come back, like, \u201cYou know what? I overreacted. [Laughter] I\u2019m sorry.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s usually what I do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> It\u2019s okay to make those mistakes; but erring on the side of not overreacting and shutting down conversation, and inviting it\u2014more often than not\u2014works better.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s good; good advice.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Listen <em>first<\/em>;\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Amen! [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014and then, comment.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> That\u2019s biblical!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, it is. Thanks, Sean. It\u2019s been great.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Great advice today from Sean McDowell talking with Dave and Ann Wilson. Sean has written a book called <em>Chasing Love: Sex, Love and Relationships in a Confused Culture<\/em>. This would be a <em>great<\/em> book for parents to go through with teens, or for a youth group to go through together. But it\u2019s not just a teenage book; Sean tackles questions like: \u201cWhat do I do if I\u2019m not happy in marriage?\u201d \u201cCan sexual sin be truly forgiven?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>We want to make this book available to you as our way of saying, \u201cThank you for your support of the work of FamilyLife; we are grateful for your partnership with us.\u201d You can donate, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to donate. Our number is 1-800-FL-TODAY; that\u2019s 1-800-358-6329; 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Now, I hope most of you are getting together regularly with other couples you know\/other people\u2014maybe it\u2019s in a church small group or with folks in your neighborhood; I don\u2019t know what the context is\u2014but I hope you\u2019re getting together with others to dig into God\u2019s Word as it relates to marriage and family. You know, we\u2019re convinced here, at FamilyLife, that the best way for us to grow in godliness is to do it in community.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve put together resources designed to help small groups be able to engage with what God\u2019s Word has to say about marriage and family. We\u2019ve got video series like the <em>Art of Marriage<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dave and Ann Wilson\u2019s, <em>Vertical Marriage<\/em>. I did a series called <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> from my book by the same name. If you\u2019re looking for resources that your small group can use, related to marriage or parenting, go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. Right now, between now and February 18, if you use the promo code, NEWYEAR2022, you\u2019ll save 25 percent off any small group order. If you\u2019re looking for some <em>great<\/em> small group resources, and you\u2019d like to save a little money, go to FamilyLifeToday.com; and you can order from us there.<\/p>\n<p>Have you ever stopped to ask yourself the question: \u201cWould the world be a better place if everybody followed Jesus\u2019 view of human sexuality?\u201d and \u201cDo we understand what Jesus\u2019 view of human sexuality is? Does the Bible tell us?\u201d Tomorrow, Dave and Ann Wilson will talk with Sean McDowell about that. Sean will be back with us; I hope you can be back with us as well.<\/p>\n<p>On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife, a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry.<\/p>\n<p>Helping you pursue the relationships that matter most.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?<\/p>\n<p>Copyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2022 FamilyLife. 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Author Sean McDowell looks at the difference between real love, sex, and our craving to be known.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylife.com\/fl2022-02-07.pdf","transcript_content":"<p><strong>Dave: <\/strong>So if you want to know how to find out what love really is, where do you go? Where do you get a good explanation\/definition?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Do you want my Jesus answer, like to the Bible? Or do you want what most people would say?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Most people; because I\u2019m going to tell you what <em>I<\/em> would say.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Maybe the movies, music\u2014oh, <em>music<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I would say music.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> He just pulled out his guitar.<\/p>\n<p>Welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Ann Wilson.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m Dave Wilson, and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>!<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know if they\u2019ll cut this out of the program or not. But I\u2019m thinking I grew up in the \u201870s\u2014the <em>best<\/em> music of all;\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> But was it?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014you know, every song has something\u2014but you\u2019re thinking some of the lyrics that talk about love in the \u201870s. Remember this one? [Dave playing guitar and singing a segment of <em>You Really Got Me Now<\/em>]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I remember that one.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> So that\u2019s love; a girl gets you, so you don\u2019t know what you\u2019re doing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Okay.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> How about\/do you remember The Doors?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave: <\/strong>[Dave playing guitar; Dave and Ann singing a segment of <em>Hello, I Love You<\/em>] Now, so think about what that says. [Laughter] \u201cHello, I love you; I don\u2019t even know your name. I\u2019m just stunned by your beauty.\u201d Or [Dave playing guitar and singing segment of <em>Shallow<\/em>]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019ve always wanted to sing in front of a microphone. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I want <em>you<\/em> to sing. But here\u2019s a song I think they\u2019re all asking. They\u2019re all asking Foreigner\u20141984\u2014they\u2019re asking this question. [Dave playing guitar and singing a clip of <em>I Want to Know What Love Is<\/em>]<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, just a little fun. I mean, it\u2019s crazy to think we go to love songs. The lyrics usually don\u2019t lead us to what real love is.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> But you\u2019re right; every generation\/every decade, we\u2019re asking the same question.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, and so we need help. We\u2019ve got help in the studio with us today. We\u2019ve got Dr. Sean McDowell, who wrote a <em>book<\/em> with the title of love in it, <em>Chasing Love: Love, Sex and Relationships in a Confused Culture<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I was going to say that subtitle is really good because I think, as parents\/as people, we\u2019re asking those questions. They\u2019re at the forefront of our mind in this culture for our kids, because it is confusing. We\u2019re not really sure how to talk to our kids and what to say, and maybe it\u2019s causing us to think, \u201cWhat do <em>I<\/em> believe and think of this?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and really, of all people to talk about this, and write about this, you have such credentials: you teach at Biola; doctorate in apologetics; I mean, you\u2019ve traveled the world; you have a podcast <em>about<\/em> apologetics. You teach at a high school as well; right?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> I do, part time; yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> So you\u2019re around young people all the time, and you\u2019re hearing their questions and their concerns. Here we are, often talking to parents; and we, as parents, are like, \u201cOkay, how do we help teach and guide our young children in our homes, as they become teenagers, in understanding love, sex, and relationships?\u201d You\u2019ve got all of those in your book; so we figured: \u201cLet\u2019s talk love today.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Let\u2019s do it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Here\u2019s the first question though: \u201cWhy this book? I mean, why now?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> I would say there\u2019s a few answers to that\u2014one of them is Scottie, Shauna, and Shane\u2014which are my three kids. My oldest is 17; I actually use this as a textbook in a classroom with him, so we got to go chapter by chapter at my private school.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> You used <em>your<\/em> book?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Absolutely.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s awesome.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> That\u2019s partly why I wrote it, so I could talk with my kids about it in different ways. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> My daughter is 14; she\u2019ll be a high school freshman. She\u2019s a volleyball player, surfer, blonde from Southern California; so I have all the concerns, especially as a dad. [Laughter] And then my son is eight, my youngest, and going into third grade next year.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> So as you go through this with your son and daughter, did they make edits? Did they agree? Did they push back?<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> So with my daughter\u2014what\u2019s interesting: she was 12 when I first started to write it; she just turned 14\u2014and I told her\/I said, \u201cHey, if you\u2019ll read this manuscript, and number one, give me feedback; number two, just go to coffee with me and just talk about it, I\u2019ll buy you a pair of new shoes.\u201d My family, as you know, Dave, we love shoes. [Laughter] She goes, \u201c<em>Dad<\/em>, there\u2019s an outlet down the street; I could get two for the price of one; is that okay?\u201d I was like, \u201cYou could get three for the price of one.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> So bribing is okay at times.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> You know what? It\u2019s whatever it takes!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> So she <em>read<\/em> the whole thing, took notes through it, and then we went out to a coffee shop. We sat down somewhere to an hour\/an hour-and-a-half; and she\u2019s like: \u201cHere\u2019s my favorite example,\u201d \u201cHere\u2019s something I learned.\u201d I was like, \u201cWhat did you think about this chapter?\u201d We just talked it through, father and daughter; there were no lectures. A big piece of this was just helping her feel comfortable, talking with her dad\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> \u2014and we\u2019d done this kind of thing before. But we walked through the content; she gave me a little bit of feedback. I went and bought her a couple of pair of shoes.<\/p>\n<p>Now, my son\u2014this was in a classroom\u2014the cool thing that I loved is by the time\u2014so I teach at Biola, full time\u2014grad program and under-grad, one class\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> What do you teach?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> I\u2019ll teach theology; apologetics\u2014kind of gospel-culture spiritual conversations\/evangelism\u2014stuff like that.<\/p>\n<p>But I teach one high school class, part time, at a private school. My son is in that class\u2014it\u2019s juniors and seniors\u2014so 16- to 18-year-olds. We were using this book, amongst others; and one of his feedback\/he goes, \u201cDad, you and I have already talked about this stuff. There was not a ton new to me.\u201d He kind of almost felt bad saying that. I was like, \u201cThat\u2019s awesome\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> That is good.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cbecause that means we\u2019ve been <em>having<\/em> these conversations for a while, and it just gave me a chance to reinforce it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Way to go!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> It felt good. The question is always: \u201cThey know it in their head; are they going to live it out?\u201d That\u2019s step two, but\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Exactly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> \u2014that\u2019s really why I wrote it\u2014to just give parents a tool to have these conversations with their kids.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and as we read it, it\u2019s a great, great tool. I mean, just to\u2014and you even have a small group\/or a workbook to go with it, which you\u2019ve got a nine-session Bible study for teens\u2014we\u2019ll have that on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014but I mean, what a great discussion to start with a 12-, 13-,14-year-old; because they\u2019re having discussion <em>everywhere<\/em>; and it\u2019s confusing, what they\u2019re hearing in your subtitles.<\/p>\n<p>Where do you start when you get to the love question? Because the culture is saying, \u201cLove is this\u2026\u201d Where do you start? And how would you define what real love is?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> One of the things I tried to do in conversation with my kids is <em>not<\/em> unnecessarily <em>demonize<\/em> culture. One of the things I point out to my son\/in our class, we talked about how, you know, the huge Marvel<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> movies that climaxed recently with <em>Endgame<\/em>. The final episode is Iron Man laying down his life, sacrificially, as an act of heroism and love. What does that remind us of? Jesus said, \u201cGreater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for a friend.\u201d Sometimes, our culture gets love right; sometimes, our culture gets love <em>wrong<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>So for many in this generation, love basically equals affirmation: \u201cWhatever you believe, however you choose to live and understand yourself, I\u2019m only loving if I <em>affirm<\/em> that.\u201d Well, that\u2019s <em>not<\/em> a biblical view of love. A biblical view of love is that I am in favor of what\u2019s <em>objectively best<\/em> for you\u2014whether you realize it or not\u2014to seek the emotional, spiritual, relational best and good for another, even if they don\u2019t realize it. I mean, ironically, the people who put Jesus to death <em>thought<\/em> they were doing what was good; but they\u2019re putting the <em>only<\/em> innocent man <em>ever<\/em> to death. So something\u2019s not right just because we <em>feel<\/em> it or just because we <em>choose<\/em> it.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s where it gets difficult for this generation is they intuitively understand that love is being in favor of somebody\u2019s best; but they have a hard time realizing: \u201cYou know what? Sometimes, that means someone might disagree with you; sometimes they might not like you\u2014they might call you a bigot\u2014but <em>real<\/em> love is being committed to another\u2019s best and being willing to <em>sacrifice<\/em> for it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m so interested in that\u2014because even when you said, as parents, we can demonize the culture\u2014and I think we do that; I remember, when my kids were in high school, I found myself doing that; because I was so <em>fearful<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Sure.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I wanted them to be fearful\u2014like, \u201c<em>No, this is evil<\/em>,\u201d\u2014thinking that will cause them to pull away.<\/p>\n<p>I think it made them more curious, like, \u201cHmm, what do you mean by that?\u201d; you know? As parents, I think we need to look at: \u201c<em>Why<\/em> are we doing that?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and I would just add that I think\u2014even sitting with you at lunch and just watching your life\u2014and pretty cool to see your YouTube channel blowing up [in views] and watching you interact with people with different viewpoints\/different theology\u2014there\u2019s a gentleness in your spirit that communicates love, even when you are,\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014disagreeing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014absolutely, on the other side of the issue.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re honoring everyone.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think we, in the church, have done a very good job of that; that\u2019s <em>loving<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> I think you\u2019re right about that. I mean, Jesus spoke truth; but He had a kindness\/He had a gentleness about him. He turned the other cheek. Sometimes, Christians\/we contribute just as much to the cancel culture as everybody else does. We name call. I mean, look on social media how quick we Christians just criticize, and say things to defend ourselves or win an argument, rather than ask the question: \u201cWhat does it mean to love this person the way that Jesus did?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Now, that\u2019s hard for us, who are adults\u2014and our identity; you know the three of us\/we understand who we are and who God made us to be\u2014but imagine being 12\/imagine being 14, and they\u2019re trying to figure out who they are. These messages from the surrounding culture are just <em>powerful<\/em>. A huge piece of this question\u2014of like love is a part of a larger question: \u201cWho am I?\u201d \u201cWho did God make me to be?\u201d \u201cWhat\u2019s His design for my life?\u201d \u201cWhat does it really mean to love other people?\u201d\u2014those questions sometimes get lost when we just get into the nitty gritty of sex, love, and relationships.<\/p>\n<p>I want to frame this in terms of: \u201cWhat is love?\u201d \u201cHow do we love God?\u201d \u201cHow do we love other people?\u201d Then some of the questions about sexuality start to fall in place.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and start there, because you do that early in the book. You take that question of love, and you go vertical with the: \u201cLove God and love others.\u201d Help a parent understand: \u201cOkay, how would I teach this to my child?\u2014to say, \u2018This is a biblical godly understanding of what love is,\u2019\u2014and as you say, get into identity\/who they are.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Well, one of the best <em>ways<\/em> to teach something is by asking questions. I ask a ton more questions with <em>my<\/em> kids, and in my classroom, than I do just sitting my kids down and go, \u201cLet me give you a definition about this.\u201d [Laughter] So a song comes up on the radio; sometimes, I\u2019ll talk with my kids. If something pops up in a movie\/if it pops up in a song, I\u2019ll just talk with my kids. I\u2019ll say something like, \u201cYou know, that\u2019s pretty interesting. What do you think about that view of relationships? Do you think that\u2019s really loving?\u201d And try to cultivate conversation more than saying \u201cHey, open this up; let me give you a definition.\u201d Although, sometimes, I do that with my kids as well.<\/p>\n<p>So defining love\u2014my dad actually did this to me when I was a kid\u2014took me to Ephesians, Chapter 5, where it says \u201cHusbands, love your wives as Christ loved the church.\u201d Then it says, \u201cLove your wives as you do your own bodies.\u201d So if you want to know how to love your wife, the question is: \u201cHow do you love your own body?\u201d It says: \u201cnurture and cherish it.\u201d Well, without getting into depth in that passage, essentially\u2014and I go into all of this in the book\u2014essentially, it means: to protect and to provide\u2014is what love is.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve said to my son: \u201cIf you\u2019re in a relationship with a girl, the words that you say, your physical touch\u2014the way you treat her\u2014if you love her, you would act in a way that would protect her and provide for her best.\u201d That comes from Ephesians, Chapter 5. So when I was 12 or 13, I remember my dad sharing that with me. It kind of stuck with me, so to speak, almost like a funnel. When I\u2019d hear these songs about love, I\u2019d be thinking, \u201cWell, are they looking out for themselves and what feels good; or are they really protecting and providing for another?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s interesting that you mentioned your dad because\u2014you know, Josh McDowell\u2014I was on a college campus in the \u201870s.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> He came to Ball State University.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Wow.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I picked him up at the airport. I was a part of Athletes in Action<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, a branch of Cru<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>,\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Yes; I know it well.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014back in the day. It was before the \u201cWhy wait?\u201d\u2014I think, in the \u201870s\u2014because \u201cWhy wait?\u201d was more \u201880s.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> That was \u201880s; that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> But isn\u2019t interesting that he\u2019s sort of a focal point of: \u201cWhy wait?\u201d\u2014a campaign that helps young people stay pure, sexually, until marriage; and now, you\u2019re writing a book. There\u2019s a legacy\/a connection there, and your dad teaching you about love. What did you get from your dad about love, even as you watched your mom and dad?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> And did you question any of the things they were teaching you at the time?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Yes, on both of those. I appreciate that you observe that; because writing this was kind of coming full circle, going back and saying: \u201cWhat did my parents teach me?\u201d \u201cWhat do I, maybe, disagree with?\u201d and \u201cHow is this conversation changed?\u201d and \u201cWhat do I agree with?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I would say, hands down, the most <em>powerful<\/em> lesson that my father gave me, along with that definition of love, is that sex is not bad\u2014it\u2019s good, and it\u2019s beautiful\u2014and God\u2019s commandments are to protect and to provide for us; it\u2019s a positive, not a negative. That\u2019s why he started the \u201cWhy wait?\u201d campaign is\/he said, in the \u201880s, the culture\u2014even the church\u2014which is: \u201cSex is bad,\u201d and \u201cIt\u2019s wrong,\u201d\u2014and he\u2019s like, \u201c<em>No<\/em>, it\u2019s good; it\u2019s a blessing; it\u2019s beautiful, but God has given us guidelines to protect us\/to provide for us.\u201d So that lens has been one of the <em>biggest<\/em> things I\u2019ve taken away from growing up.<\/p>\n<p>Probably an area where I differ a little bit is\u2014if you go back to just the way sexuality was taught in the \u201880s and \u201890s\u2014there was almost <em>no<\/em> discussion about singleness; there was <em>none<\/em>. I would argue, as a whole\/as a church, I think we made an idol out of marriage.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Marriage is beautiful\u2014the Bible starts with a marriage; it ends with a wedding\u2014you know the ten commandments, mother and father are three of the ten commandments. Jesus taught on marriage; Paul taught on marriage. It\u2019s <em>huge<\/em>; it\u2019s the metaphor God chooses to demonstrate His love for the church.<\/p>\n<p>But in view of 1 Corinthians 7 and Matthew 19, being married and being single are two equal, God-honoring ways of being in relationship. I think we downplayed singleness; and we\u2019re reaping some of the consequences for that, now, that less people are getting married; and they\u2019re getting married later\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014later.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> \u2014the church, in many circles, feels like, \u201cWell, that\u2019s just for <em>married<\/em> people not for <em>singles,<\/em>\u201d\u2014it\u2019s kind of an add-on.<\/p>\n<p>So in the middle section of the book, once I lay out the beginning\u2014kind of clearing away some of the false ideas\u2014I say: \u201cHere\u2019s God\u2019s idea for sex; it\u2019s design\u201d; and then \u201csingleness,\u201d\u2014I intentionally put it first\u2014and then \u201cGod\u2019s design for marriage.\u201d That\u2019s a piece that I think has been left out of teachings on sexuality in the church, as a whole, that is just frankly not balanced and biblical.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> So as parents, how do we have that conversation? You\u2019re right; we do that, as parents, like, \u201cWhen you get married\u2026\u201d How would we shift that and talk to our kids at the age your kids are right now?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Yes; so when I tuck my son in at night, and I pray for him, we pray for a few things. I\u2019ll just say something like\u2014when I\u2019m praying, I\u2019ll say, \u201cGod, if Shane gets married someday, may You protect his future spouse and prepare him for that marriage.\u201d I choose to qualify it that way, because Jesus was single; Paul was single. I think Jeremiah was; John the Baptist was. Even Paul, in 1 Corinthians 7, is like, \u201cI wish you were like <em>me<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The other thing that does is\u2014I talk to college students, and they feel like they\u2019ve got to get married right away\u2014that even if you get married someday, there\u2019s a season of singleness that we shouldn\u2019t look past. I just <em>frame<\/em> it with my kids a little bit differently.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes, if we have single people over\u2014like in my classroom, I talked about\/we had a conversation one day\u2014like: \u201cHey, who are some of the single teachers on campus?\u201d \u201cWhat do you think are the challenges they\u2019ve thought about?\u201d \u201cHave you ever gone to lunch with them and asked them about their life?\u201d The students are like, \u201cI\u2019ve never thought about this.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cWell, they\u2019re a part of the church; you should be curious about their experience.\u201d So it\u2019s just\/that\u2019s one correction, among others, that I\u2019ve tried to bring in the book.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I know one of the most beautiful moments of my life\u2014and we\u2019ve mentioned it here before, and you just mentioned praying with your son about his future spouse; you know your daughter, her future husband\u2014I took Fridays, for the last 35 years; I know that because my oldest is 35.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Wow.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> When he was born, I decided: \u201cFriday is my fast day, food wise, and I\u2019m going to pray for his future spouse,\u201d before she was even born. You can imagine, on wedding day for all three sons\u2014I\u2019m the dad, but I\u2019m also the pastor\u2014I\u2019m looking at this young woman, who doesn\u2019t know that I\u2019ve been praying for her; I didn\u2019t know her name, but I prayed.<\/p>\n<p>Exactly, when you said that, I\u2019m like, \u201cI prayed the exact prayer: protect her, provide for her, a woman of God.\u201d I\u2019m telling you\u2014I look at her with tears in my eyes, not just because she\u2019s marrying my son\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Sure; sure.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014but it\u2019s like, \u201cLook at what God <em>brought<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Also, all through those years, not doing it perfectly but trying to teach our young. We had three sons, so I was trying to teach them what love looks like and how to protect and love a woman. So hearing you say that, it\u2019s like: \u201cWhat a great action step to do either one of those: you know, do what Sean does every night with his son and daughter; do what we\u2019ve done\u2014or figure out your own way to say, \u201cI\u2019m going to get on my knees for my children, not only to teach them about love\/to show them what love looks like, but to <em>pray<\/em> that God would protect them and provide for them in a powerful, powerful way,\u201d\u2014I just think, \u201cMan, if listeners\/if that\u2019s their action step as a result of today, wow! That could be pretty powerful.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> And Sean, what would your action step be, as we talk about love\u2014as our listeners and parents are thinking: \u201cOh, yes; what can I do?\u201d\u2014what would you suggest with their kids?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> I would say have specific conversations with your kids. I\u2019m actually pretty convinced that most young people, even in the church, have imbibed far more secular ideas about love than biblical ideas. The best way to service this is just, in conversation, asking questions and listening can make a <em>huge<\/em> amount of headway with our kids. Worldview is largely passed on through intentional conversations and relationships. If you haven\u2019t had this conversation, start it now. If you\u2019ve had, be encouraged to go continue it; and do it even more.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s really good.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Figure out what your kids are listening to, and sit down and listen to it with them, and don\u2019t judge it immediately\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014like: \u201cI can\u2019t believe you\u2019re listening to this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I did that; I totally did that when our first was in high school. I\u2019m like, \u201cThis is from Satan!\u201d; you know? [Laughter] So I take this\u2014it was a CD\u2014I throw it in the trashcan.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> She did; I remember this.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m so glad I\u2019m married to Dave, because he takes it out of the trashcan. He\u2019s like, \u201cHey, let\u2019s just kind of <em>listen<\/em> to this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean: <\/strong>Wow.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann: <\/strong>I was so overwhelmed and fearful, which caused me to react instead of respond; but I\u2019m so glad that Dave was like that, because what you\u2019re saying is: \u201cDon\u2019t demonize what they\u2019re listening to, because it shuts down their hearts immediately.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> It does.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s really wise, just to ask questions. Oh, you may hate this song\u2014you may think this is the raunchiest music or movie you\u2019ve ever seen\u2014but to say, \u201cTell me what you think about this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> And you know that doesn\u2019t mean there\u2019s <em>not<\/em> a time to go: \u201cYou know what? This is out of bounds.\u201d I\u2019ve done that sometimes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right; right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> I\u2019ve been like: \u201cYou know what? This is garbage. Listen to what they\u2019re saying, buddy. Stop listening to this.\u201d Sometimes, I\u2019ve come back, like, \u201cYou know what? I overreacted. [Laughter] I\u2019m sorry.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s usually what I do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> It\u2019s okay to make those mistakes; but erring on the side of not overreacting and shutting down conversation, and inviting it\u2014more often than not\u2014works better.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s good; good advice.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Listen <em>first<\/em>;\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> Amen! [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014and then, comment.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sean:<\/strong> That\u2019s biblical!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, it is. Thanks, Sean. It\u2019s been great.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Great advice today from Sean McDowell talking with Dave and Ann Wilson. Sean has written a book called <em>Chasing Love: Sex, Love and Relationships in a Confused Culture<\/em>. This would be a <em>great<\/em> book for parents to go through with teens, or for a youth group to go through together. But it\u2019s not just a teenage book; Sean tackles questions like: \u201cWhat do I do if I\u2019m not happy in marriage?\u201d \u201cCan sexual sin be truly forgiven?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>We want to make this book available to you as our way of saying, \u201cThank you for your support of the work of FamilyLife; we are grateful for your partnership with us.\u201d You can donate, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to donate. Our number is 1-800-FL-TODAY; that\u2019s 1-800-358-6329; 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Now, I hope most of you are getting together regularly with other couples you know\/other people\u2014maybe it\u2019s in a church small group or with folks in your neighborhood; I don\u2019t know what the context is\u2014but I hope you\u2019re getting together with others to dig into God\u2019s Word as it relates to marriage and family. You know, we\u2019re convinced here, at FamilyLife, that the best way for us to grow in godliness is to do it in community.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve put together resources designed to help small groups be able to engage with what God\u2019s Word has to say about marriage and family. We\u2019ve got video series like the <em>Art of Marriage<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dave and Ann Wilson\u2019s, <em>Vertical Marriage<\/em>. I did a series called <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> from my book by the same name. If you\u2019re looking for resources that your small group can use, related to marriage or parenting, go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. Right now, between now and February 18, if you use the promo code, NEWYEAR2022, you\u2019ll save 25 percent off any small group order. If you\u2019re looking for some <em>great<\/em> small group resources, and you\u2019d like to save a little money, go to FamilyLifeToday.com; and you can order from us there.<\/p>\n<p>Have you ever stopped to ask yourself the question: \u201cWould the world be a better place if everybody followed Jesus\u2019 view of human sexuality?\u201d and \u201cDo we understand what Jesus\u2019 view of human sexuality is? Does the Bible tell us?\u201d Tomorrow, Dave and Ann Wilson will talk with Sean McDowell about that. Sean will be back with us; I hope you can be back with us as well.<\/p>\n<p>On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife, a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry.<\/p>\n<p>Helping you pursue the relationships that matter most.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?<\/p>\n<p>Copyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2022 FamilyLife. 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