{"id":307302,"date":"2021-11-19T08:03:08","date_gmt":"2021-11-19T13:03:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/from-orphan-to-miracle\/"},"modified":"2021-11-19T08:03:08","modified_gmt":"2021-11-19T13:03:08","slug":"from-orphan-to-miracle","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/from-orphan-to-miracle\/","title":{"rendered":"From Orphan to Miracle"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Like most adopted children, Judge Joseph Wood longed to know his birth parents as a child. 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It\u2019s interesting\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, the second one is in process;\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes, they are fostering. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>\u2014they are biological brothers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That is fun. The cool thing was for them\u2014even in high school, when they were dating, they talked about this\u2014they always had this felt call that they would adopt someday. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWelcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Ann Wilson.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m Dave Wilson, and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> They\u2019ve been married over a decade. It\u2019s such a beautiful picture of this little blond-haired, blue-eyed sort of family adopting these two little boys from Mexican descent. It\u2019s just such a beautiful picture of the kingdom of God\u2014it really is\u2014when you see them walk in or jump in their SUV\u2014and again, never really thought of that for the Wilsons. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got a guest with us today who has already told us the story, a little bit, about adoption. We\u2019ve got Judge Joseph Wood with us. I love saying, \u201cJudge,\u201d because I don\u2019t think we\u2019ve ever had a judge on here before. Thank you for being back with us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Excellent; excellent. So glad to be with you and your <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>audience. It\u2019s a privilege. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I tell you what\u2014just looking over at you\u2014you just exude joy; doesn\u2019t he? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Oh, gosh! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You guys, this man\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> The smile is just\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and his wife June; you\u2019ve been married how many years, Joseph? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Twenty-nine years; she\u2019s got me! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> She\u2019s pretty <em>amazing<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Twenty-nine years; oh, she is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You have three daughters;\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Three daughters. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014three grandchildren. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Three daughters like her, so they keep me on point all the time\u2014and three grandchildren\u2014that\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I wish you all could meet Joseph; because when he looks at you, he has your total attention. Joseph, like when we were having lunch, you really <em>see<\/em> people; you want to hear their story\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and you\u2019re passionate about that; that\u2019s been fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you have a pretty <em>weighty<\/em> title too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; what is the title exactly? I know it\u2019s\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> County judge; so I am Washington County Judge, here, in Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Explain exactly a county judge, because you think of judges in different ways;\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s correct. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014so I\u2019m not sure we understand exactly what a county judge is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> In the state of Arkansas\u2014and probably a dozen states\u2014they are the chief executive of the county; they are the ones who preside over the county. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We\u2019ve already heard a little bit of your story, which you wrote a book\/a children\u2019s book\u2014called (<em>Joey\u2019s Journey<\/em>) [the book series]\u2014<em>Saving Joey: A True-life Story<\/em> and a sequel called <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>. The neat thing about your book is, when you start reading the book\u2014and I know a lot of children have read it, and teachers have read it to children\u2014they don\u2019t know it\u2019s <em>your<\/em> story,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right; that\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014which is <em>amazing<\/em>. Again, we don\u2019t need you to tell the whole story again; but the fact that your mother, who you\u2019ve never met,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014never. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014left you in a box in the snow, on a front porch in Chicago, and waited and watched to see if anybody would pick you up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014in the middle of winter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You were <em>saved<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s correct. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014by a man who found that box; we\u2019ve already heard that story. You got to meet him, just ten years ago, by finding who he was. What a\/I mean, what an incredible story! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> But you really grew up in an orphanage for ten years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014ten years before I was adopted. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Take us back from there. Cesar [spelling uncertain] finds you; they decide to put you in an orphanage. How long were you there, and how did you end up getting out? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> So again, not knowing how old I was when they got me\u2014but they thought somewhere within a couple of weeks\u2014no umbilical cord or anything like that, and no records; so that is all we know. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So you really don\u2019t know your birth date?! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Don\u2019t know the birth date. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What day do you celebrate? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> The 20<sup>th<\/sup>, which is the day that the people came and got me, started foster-caring me: Loretta and Sylvester; they were married. She wrote in her high school year book: \u201cLoretta: I want to be a teacher, and I want a house full of kids.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy dad was a construction worker and built a large part of the city of Chicago. The story as Grandma and my dad tell was that:\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOh, my gosh, your father hated coming home from work; because your mother put him back to work. [Laughter] She wanted to get pregnant and have a kid; she wanted a house full. She had graduated from high school; went on and became a teacher. Five years of marriage\u2014and no kids\u2014so one day, she was like, \u201cWell, let\u2019s go to the orphanage; we can get a little girl. You\u2019ll be a great dad. We can foster care.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey decided to go to the orphanage downtown. She sees all these kids\u2014you\u2019ve got to know my mother; she was a teacher; she <em>loved<\/em> children\u2014and she saw all of these children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And she wanted a girl? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> She wanted a girl; but when she got there, and saw all of these kids, she wanted all of them\u2014that\u2019s what the story is\u2014she wanted <em>all<\/em> of them. She said, \u201cNo, I want to foster this little boy right here\u201d; so they started fostering <em>me<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWithin a couple of months of bringing me home\u2014she\u2019s relaxed, because she\u2019s got a kid\u2014Dad is like, \u201cYes! She\u2019s got a kid\u201d; and \u201cAh!\u201d she gets pregnant. [Laughter] A year later, she has my brother. She gets pregnant again; she has my sister. She gets pregnant again; she has my brother. She had three kids, back to back, after starting foster-caring me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt caused a little concern with the orphanage people; because they were like, \u201cOkay, now that they have their own kids, will they turn this kid back in?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> They continued to foster. At ten years old, they said, \u201cNo, let\u2019s go ahead,\u201d\u2014because they had been moving; they had to keep moving to different places\u2014even more real was, at ten years old, they were going through a divorce. At that age, in the \u201870s, you didn\u2019t have a single mom, with a bunch of kids, adopting a kid; but again, my mother was a force of nature. She was: \u201cNo, this is my kid; I have watched him and had him. I did everything but birth him.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI always knew I was adopted, but I didn\u2019t understand what any of that <em>meant<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Even at ten years old, when I was in the court room, and they were saying, \u201cYour name is going to change,\u201d I didn\u2019t really understand what that really meant. It was really around 11\/12 when I started: \u201cMan, I\u2019ve got brothers and sisters\/they really don\u2019t look like me; they don\u2019t act like me.\u201d Mom was trying to help me understand: \u201cWell, you were given up for adoption. We came, and we loved you; so we\u2019ve got you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was always loved by these guys; but I always wondered: \u201cMan, let\u2019s go find out what happened to my parents.\u201d My mother was like, \u201cWhy don\u2019t you turn 18? We\u2019ll get a private investigator; we\u2019ll help you do all that.\u201d Well, I could not <em>wait<\/em> to turn 18\u2014slowest years of my life were high school, because it could not go fast enough\u2014because I wanted it to hurry up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo 17 years old, 11 months, 29 days: \u201cMom, do we have the money? Do we have the private eye?\u201d My mother was like, \u201cWhat are you talking about?\u201d \u201cYou said, when I turned 18, we could go and find my birth parents and try to\u2026\u201d\u2014she just broke; it just broke her, because she\u2014\u201cYou didn\u2019t think I was a good mom?\u201d It had nothing\u2014again, it was this identity thing\u2014so I <em>never<\/em>\/I was very gracious to my mother, very <em>grateful<\/em>. I used to thank her all the time; she would: \u201cStop thanking me!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut again, I knew I could be still in this place; so I had to start going around her, because it was still in me. I wanted to know who and what: \u201cAlright, they\u2019ve got files in Springfield, Illinois\u2014they are sealed files\u2014but I am going to go down there. I\u2019m old enough. I had to do the draft,\u201d\u2014I mean, sign up to be eligible\u2014\u201cI can get student loans; I can drive a car and get a gun. I want to know what my information is, so I\u2019m going to Springfield. Boy, I\u2019m not letting my mom know.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, finally, I got it in my head: \u201cI\u2019m coming home for spring break.\u201d Called one of my buddies: \u201cWe\u2019re going to Springfield. We\u2019re going to stay down there until they give us our records. Seven o\u2019clock tomorrow morning\u201d; he said, \u201cI\u2019ll be there.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSeven o\u2019clock in the morning\u2014a little before then\u2014I get a phone call. The house\u2014it\u2019s the neighbor across the street\u2014\u201cHey, Joey, can you take me downtown to work? My car is not working.\u201d I say, \u201cHey, I\u2019m not going that way; I\u2019m going down to Springfield.\u201d She said, \u201cOh, well, is Loretta up?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cYes; Ma!\u201d; I gave her the phone. \u201cWhy don\u2019t you ask Joey?\u201d All I know is she is telling her: \u201cHe said he is going to Springfield or something.\u201d \u201cSpringfield?!\u201d\u2014I hear my mother say. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBy this point, the door is knocking; it\u2019s my buddy. We are getting ready to go to Springfield. She gets off the phone\u2014[to the neighbor] and she says, \u201cWell, I\u2019ll take you,\u201d\u2014she gets off the phone; she starts, \u201cKevin\u201d\u2014she calls me Kevin when she\u2019s getting to a point; it\u2019s Joseph Kevin [Laughter]\u2014\u201cKevin, Miss Helen says you\u2019re going down to Springfield. What\u2019s in Springfield?\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, she told.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, now, my partner is in the house; he\u2019s like, \u201cYou ready?\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cWell, Mom, I\u2019m going down to Springfield to get my original birth certificate\u2014whatever it is\u2014they sealed the file and all.\u201d She just broke and cried; I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, Ma! I\u2019m not going.\u201d He\u2019s upset, because we\u2019re not going; he was like, \u201cI could have stayed in bed. It\u2019s seven in the morning.\u201d Anyway, it was just a <em>long<\/em> journey on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Joseph, what is it in kids\u2014probably in all of us\u2014that wants to know the beginning and wants to know who their biological parents are? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I\u2019ve met some folks, who don\u2019t want to know. They know that they\u2019ve been given up for adoption, and they don\u2019t care; because in their mind, they are thinking, \u201cWell, if they loved me, they would have kept me.\u201d I do think it is a fa\u00e7ade; I think it\u2019s\u2014they don\u2019t want to, because it is <em>hard<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014when you start really grappling and wrestling with that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGrowing up, especially my teenage years, when you are going through all these changes anyway\u2014puberty, identity, hair on your face\u2014you are just trying to figure out this\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and you\u2019re trying to figure out who you are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014who you are; absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Now, did you go through some struggle;\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Oh, absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014because you feel like it was connected? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> You go through regular stuff, anyway, as a teenager. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> You just add that piece on because, at least, if you knew your mom and dad\/you grew up with that\u2014and you started to see hair coming on your face or whatever\u2014you can look in the mirror and say, \u201cYes, that\u2019s\/I\u2019m getting that from Granddaddy,\u201d or \u201cThat part I\u2019m getting from Mom.\u201d But when you are adopted, you don\u2019t have\/you have <em>no sense<\/em> of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI tell you the struggle\u2014the biggest was\u2014trying to come to a place, where I say, \u201cOkay; was I a product of rape, or incest, or an interracial relationship that wasn\u2019t acceptable?\u201d I only got to a place, where I could say, \u201cI guess it didn\u2019t matter; she had me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, when I met Mr. Cesar, the guy who found me\u2014and I started sharing that, my whole life, I kind of had that in my head\u2014he said, \u201cNo, she did more than had you; because she put you in a place where you could be found. She must have loved you, because she could have left you in a black plastic bag and left you in the alley; and I would have never found you. You would have froze out there.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt just took it to a whole other level of this woman\u2014again, it wasn\u2019t the way I wanted to be loved or thought\u2014but again, she could have aborted me. I\u2019m such a pro-life person, partly because I am here because of that. Regardless of the circumstance, I\u2019m here; and I thank God for it. But now, even more so, there is a guy Cesar; and people who came and got me; and an orphanage committed to taking care of kids, who were abandoned or parents who couldn\u2019t take care of the kids. So that\u2019s, again, orchestrated by the hand of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It sounds like your adoptive parents were pretty remarkable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> They were; they are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Here is what I would ask: \u201cWhat would you say to the adoptive parents, listening, that have a child; and maybe their child is doing the same thing you did: they <em>want<\/em> to know?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Yes; sure; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Your mom was sort of hurt by that. What would you say to the adoptive parent? How should they respond? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Like you respond to anything that your kid is going to work through and work on; you\u2019ve got to love them along. You\u2019ve got to give them a little bandwidth, so they can spread their wings. Because, again, you restrict them so much they may not be able to fly. You want to open the butterfly cocoon, and let the butterfly get out; but if there is no struggle in some of that, they won\u2019t be strong enough <em>to<\/em> fly. But also, that protection piece\u2014I didn\u2019t understand protection of your kid until I started having kids\u2014[Laughter]\u2014yes, now, I get why Momma was the way she was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think if you\u2019ve got a kid, who is in that search, you set the parameters as best you can and allow them that space that you are going to help. Again, it\u2019s not about <em>you<\/em>, per se; it\u2019s about <em>you both<\/em>. It\u2019s about: \u201cWhat does that relationship look like for both of you guys?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy mom and I got together and became even tighter after I started having kids, because I got what she was trying to do\u2014was protect me\u2014but then she got that it wasn\u2019t about me leaving her or me wanting\u2014I\u2019m 18; I\u2019m not trying to find another parent to tell me what to do or how to do\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but she didn\u2019t get that at the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo talking to those, who may think about foster care, in particular adopting, if you get to that space, \u201cHow do you love your kid <em>enough<\/em> to let them go?\u201d\u2014which is ultimately what we end up doing anyway. At one point, they will find a spouse and move on and all; but hopefully, you\u2019ve given them enough where they want to stay tethered, and come back, and call back from time to time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; I was thinking, when you answered that question, it\u2019s really the same advice you would give any parent\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Absolutely right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014with their own biological child. They are at a stage, where they have to become an adult. They\u2019re becoming an adult; it\u2019s a little scary, as the\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014mom or dad, because you are like: \u201cThey are pulling away; they are making decisions.\u201d You\u2019ve got to let them <em>fly<\/em>! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> You do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> At the same time, you have enough boundaries so they don\u2019t crash. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> They know they can come back, or call, or something like that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I love the fact that\u2014I mean, you are in a government office; you are very successful; and you are using all the gifts that God has given you\u2014and yet, you take the time to write these two books, <em>Saving Joey<\/em> and <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>. You take these books into schools\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and even around the world, and you <em>read<\/em> to kids. Talk about that\/of the response of the kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Wow; so I do that, because that\u2019s who I am\u2014since I was growing up and Mom said, \u201cYou need to watch your brothers and sisters; I\u2019ve got to get a second job,\u201d\u2014I was told to be involved in the community in which I lived and \u201cWatch over your brothers and sisters.\u201d I was told to do it because I was the oldest. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, I started a youth organization; and I thought that would be a good place to keep my brother and sisters. Well, it grew <em>fast<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wait! Wait! Wait! So <em>you<\/em> started this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right, this teen group in Chicago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How old were you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know\u2014probably 14\/15\u2014in fact, it got so big so fast that the adults would have their town hall meetings; and I was their liaison for the young people. I would come and speak to them about what we see\/or what the young people are seeing with the gangs and the drugs. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, now, going to the schools, I thoroughly enjoy just being out and talking; but it\u2019s also my way of giving back, which was given to me\u2014there was a community; and law enforcement; and an orphanage; and people, who came and said, \u201cI\u2019m going to get a kid as opposed to having\u2026\u201d\u2014again, we have our own biological kids; there was no choice in that\u2014but for somebody to go and say, \u201cI\u2019m going to give my time and my love to someone.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf I can share that\u2014and the kid who may be in foster care\u2014I go, and I read. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> After that, it may be a group of third graders. I\u2019m reading; at the end of the story, and I say, \u201cThe little kid in that basket\u2014that was me,\u201d\u2014there\u2019s an \u201cOH!\u201d It\u2019s the teacher that is like, \u201cThat\u2019s you?!\u201d \u201cYes, ma\u2019am.\u201d You see the kids, though\u2014the kids\u2014all of a sudden, a hand goes up\u2014\u201cI\u2019m in foster care,\u201d or \u201cI\u2019ve been adopted.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know, long after I\u2019m gone, they are still having that organic conversation about\u2014\u201cWhat does that even mean?\u2014that every kid doesn\u2019t have a mom and dad that is just with them, that you, almost, take for granted?\u201d \u201cNo; some have struggles, or some\u2026\u201d\u2014just to know that is happening, and they can go home and they can talk; maybe, it\u2019s happening. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll go and visit churches or men\u2019s group\u2014and we talk about that\u2014and \u201cHow do we take some of that, as part of a community, to say, \u2018I may not be able to adopt, but I can foster,\u2019 or \u2018If I can\u2019t foster care, I can, at least, volunteer and take somebody to a ball game\u2019?\u201d It changes lives. It changed my life, obviously. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And it\u2019s obvious that your faith\u2014and your wife June\u2019s faith\u2014that\u2019s who you are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s who I am. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Why is that important? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Well, one, from the very beginning, I was told\u2014I had a minister, who used to work for me\u2014I was just <em>struggling<\/em> with a lot of this shortly after I found out that I was <em>abandoned<\/em>. I said, \u201cI\u2019ve got to make some calls; I\u2019ve got to find out who this guy is.\u201d He said, \u201cYou\u2019re struggling with it, because you are going on a reverse plan.\u201d I was like, \u201cWhat are you talking about?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cAs a minister, you see people struggle with trying to figure out identity.\u201d He said, \u201cMost of us are born to our mom and dad, and we see dad as like God\u2014he is big; he is strong; and everybody looks up to him\u2014as we get a little older, we realize that dad has a lot of flaws; and momma calls him out on those flaws. Then they start their journey to find Christ and God.\u201d He said, \u201cYou went in reverse. God had His hand on the very beginning in your life, and you are just on this journey, trying to figure out who your <em>earthly<\/em> father is.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, I know God has had His hand in all of this\u2014so I think the faith walk has been, from the very beginning, it\u2019s kind of helped get me through my teenage years and writing to God about\u2014\u201cWhy me? Why did I get to this spot? Again, I guess it doesn\u2019t matter; I\u2019m here, and You\u2019ve been watching over; and You\u2019ve kept me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI got my master\u2019s in Christian Leadership. Again, we spent a lot of time\u2014got a number of men\u2019s groups; I do Bible studies in the morning with folks in different states\u2014it\u2019s just what keeps me moving. If I can continue to share the heart to someone\u2014that if they can see Christ in me\u2014then that\u2019s our call; right? He said: \u201cKeep your light on,\u201d \u201cBe the salt,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s what our call is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What\u2019s truly interesting\u2014there are so many facets of your story that you can step back\u2014I know you\u2019ve done this your whole life\u2014and go, \u201cWow! Look at God\u2019s hand.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of them that\u2019s very interesting is the people that saw you. One the passages I <em>love<\/em> in Scripture\u2014and I\u2019ve preached on it many times over 30 years as a pastor\u2014is the end of the first chapter of James, where he says, \u201cThis is what real religion is\u2026\u201d;\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Wow; wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014you know? He talks about keeping a tight rein on our tongue, which is interesting; he goes right there\u2014but then he says, \u201cCaring for orphans\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cand widows in distress.\u201d And you were an orphan; somebody cared for you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe know God was above the whole thing; but there was a person\u2014and a name and a mom\u2014and then your adoptive parents. I just think we, as followers of Christ\u2014you just said\u2014turn on the light and be the salt. We are called\/\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014the church is called to see orphans and care for them. You are sitting here today, a judge in Arkansas, because somebody did that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s our call! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Absolutely right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> If you are a follower of Christ, you <em>can\u2019t<\/em> walk by. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s why we believe in life from conception to the grave. It doesn\u2019t\/that\u2019s why we come alongside and say, \u201cGod put me beside this person, and I have eyes to see. Am I going to act?\u201d When we act, life change happens, like yours. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> In Washington County, Arkansas, which is where I am the judge there, the Court got together; they put a resolution together that we are going to be known as a pro-life county. We are the first pro-life county in the state of Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, I am a longtime advocate for life and pro-life marches in DC\u2014it\u2019s always sub-below zero\u2014to see the women and young people out there, that just says: \u201cYes, His life; we\u2019ll go,\u201d and \u201cHe will have His way.\u201d You talk about Scripture; this year, we are going to stand on Esther 4:14: \u201cFor such a time as this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014\u201ctime as this\u201d; that\u2019s good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Well, Esther was an orphan. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Just look to see, again, she didn\u2019t think a whole lot\u2014I <em>never<\/em> dreamed that this would be the work that I am in\u2014being as a deputy secretary or judge\u2014but she didn\u2019t ever think she would be queen either. But God orchestrates some of this. At that time, it was for her and some of those people in that area; but she did not know that work would end up impacting generations thereafter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s going to have His way, and He is going to use His people. Stay on your journey, and open up, and be used by Him. He will. I just\u2014again, I am grateful\u2014I have been blessed; and if He takes me, again, right now, I know I\u2019ve been blessed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, God is really using you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m thinking, \u201cWouldn\u2019t this be a great thing to do with your kids?\u2014to buy <em>Saving Joey<\/em> and <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>\u2014read it to your kids and talk about it.\u201d I think this begins in our homes, of talking about our responsibility, as believers, to <em>see<\/em> the orphan, to <em>see<\/em> the abandoned, to <em>see<\/em> the widow, and to say: \u201cKids, how can we impact? How can we love?\u201d\u2014and even, this is a hard one\u2014to be open-handed, of asking God, \u201cGod, what do You have for me in this area?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Wow; wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Because, Joseph, your story is so inspiring. Thank you for sharing all that God has done in your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In the book of James, Chapter 1, we read that pure and undefiled religion is taking care of the orphan and the widow in their need. I think Ann Wilson\u2019s charged all of us to be asking, \u201cWhat\u2019s our role in that as a family?\u201d That\u2019s a great conversation for us to be having with our kids and to be thinking creatively about how we can help the orphans and the widows in our world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd reading books together as a family\u2014the books that Ann was talking about: <em>Saving Joey<\/em> and <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>\u2014these books tell Joseph Wood\u2019s story. That\u2019s a great starting place. These are books we have available in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go online to order your copy of these books; the website is FamilyLifeToday.com, or you can call to order. Our number is 1-800-FL-TODAY. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. The number to call to order the books, <em>Saving Joey<\/em> and <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>: 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, this is a big weekend for us, here, at FamilyLife. We have seven <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaways happening all across the country\u2014Williamsburg, Virginia; Baltimore, Maryland; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Coeur d'Alene, Idaho; San Antonio, Texas; Sacramento, California; Portland, Oregon\u2014thousands of couples joining us for what has been, for more than 40 years now, a transformational weekend getaway for couples. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDavid Robbins, who is the president of FamilyLife, is here with me; and David, our hope\/our prayer is that this is going to be a life-changing, marriage-changing weekend for these couples. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> Oh, man, it\u2019s <em>so<\/em> encouraging to have this many <em>Weekend<\/em>s<em> to Remember<\/em> going on in one weekend. We invite you to pray; but we also invite you to think about in the year to come\u2014to check it out\u2014because there is a totally refreshed experience. The same timeless truth is represented at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>; but we have worked hard\u2014really, we started before the pandemic\u2014but the pandemic break of <em>Weekend<\/em>s<em> to Remember<\/em> allowed us to complete a refresh of the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> that I think you would be very encouraged about. Certainly, our teams have been out there, loving [to hear] how people are enjoying it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI got to speak to a couple, who had been married for ten years, and the wife told me, \u201cYou know, I learned this weekend that I don\u2019t need to panic in our pain. Our issues are common and expected in marriage; and there is always hope, because of Jesus and Jesus meeting us in our time of need.\u201d That\u2019s how Meg and I have been ministered to at <em>Weekend<\/em>s<em> to Remember<\/em> as we\u2019ve gone before as participants. Time and time again, God meets people where they are at. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>We invite you to pray, and we\u2019re excited about this weekend. We invite you to check out the 55 locations we will have in the spring and see if there is one near you coming that you\u2019d want to join. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In fact, you may want to think about giving a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> as a gift to children or friends during the holidays; you can get a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> gift card. Maybe, give it to your spouse as a way of saying, \u201cLet\u2019s get away together for a weekend in the spring.\u201d Get more information about the upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> schedule and about the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> gift certificates when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith that, we hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this weekend, and we hope you can join us Monday when we\u2019re going to talk about what we can do, as parents, to help all of us\u2014our kids, ourselves\u2014stay focused on Jesus during the Advent season. Clayton Greene is going to join us with a great new idea. I hope you can be here as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOn behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you Monday for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelping you pursue the relationships that matter most.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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most adopted children, Judge Joseph Wood longed to know his birth parents as a child. He shares the story of his struggles and God's hand of providence in his life.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylife.com\/fl2021-11-19.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, I will say this: one of the things that I <em>never<\/em> foresaw happening in the Wilson legacy was adoption and foster care. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; I think it\u2019s been one of the greatest things that we\u2019ve experienced as a family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, so what am I talking about? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We are talking about our middle son Austin and his wife Kendall have adopted two boys. It\u2019s interesting\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, the second one is in process;\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes, they are fostering. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>\u2014they are biological brothers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That is fun. The cool thing was for them\u2014even in high school, when they were dating, they talked about this\u2014they always had this felt call that they would adopt someday. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWelcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Ann Wilson.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m Dave Wilson, and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> They\u2019ve been married over a decade. It\u2019s such a beautiful picture of this little blond-haired, blue-eyed sort of family adopting these two little boys from Mexican descent. It\u2019s just such a beautiful picture of the kingdom of God\u2014it really is\u2014when you see them walk in or jump in their SUV\u2014and again, never really thought of that for the Wilsons. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got a guest with us today who has already told us the story, a little bit, about adoption. We\u2019ve got Judge Joseph Wood with us. I love saying, \u201cJudge,\u201d because I don\u2019t think we\u2019ve ever had a judge on here before. Thank you for being back with us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Excellent; excellent. So glad to be with you and your <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>audience. It\u2019s a privilege. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I tell you what\u2014just looking over at you\u2014you just exude joy; doesn\u2019t he? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Oh, gosh! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You guys, this man\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> The smile is just\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and his wife June; you\u2019ve been married how many years, Joseph? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Twenty-nine years; she\u2019s got me! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> She\u2019s pretty <em>amazing<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Twenty-nine years; oh, she is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You have three daughters;\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Three daughters. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014three grandchildren. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Three daughters like her, so they keep me on point all the time\u2014and three grandchildren\u2014that\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I wish you all could meet Joseph; because when he looks at you, he has your total attention. Joseph, like when we were having lunch, you really <em>see<\/em> people; you want to hear their story\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and you\u2019re passionate about that; that\u2019s been fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you have a pretty <em>weighty<\/em> title too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; what is the title exactly? I know it\u2019s\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> County judge; so I am Washington County Judge, here, in Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Explain exactly a county judge, because you think of judges in different ways;\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s correct. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014so I\u2019m not sure we understand exactly what a county judge is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> In the state of Arkansas\u2014and probably a dozen states\u2014they are the chief executive of the county; they are the ones who preside over the county. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We\u2019ve already heard a little bit of your story, which you wrote a book\/a children\u2019s book\u2014called (<em>Joey\u2019s Journey<\/em>) [the book series]\u2014<em>Saving Joey: A True-life Story<\/em> and a sequel called <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>. The neat thing about your book is, when you start reading the book\u2014and I know a lot of children have read it, and teachers have read it to children\u2014they don\u2019t know it\u2019s <em>your<\/em> story,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right; that\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014which is <em>amazing<\/em>. Again, we don\u2019t need you to tell the whole story again; but the fact that your mother, who you\u2019ve never met,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014never. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014left you in a box in the snow, on a front porch in Chicago, and waited and watched to see if anybody would pick you up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014in the middle of winter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You were <em>saved<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s correct. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014by a man who found that box; we\u2019ve already heard that story. You got to meet him, just ten years ago, by finding who he was. What a\/I mean, what an incredible story! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> But you really grew up in an orphanage for ten years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014ten years before I was adopted. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Take us back from there. Cesar [spelling uncertain] finds you; they decide to put you in an orphanage. How long were you there, and how did you end up getting out? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> So again, not knowing how old I was when they got me\u2014but they thought somewhere within a couple of weeks\u2014no umbilical cord or anything like that, and no records; so that is all we know. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So you really don\u2019t know your birth date?! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Don\u2019t know the birth date. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What day do you celebrate? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> The 20<sup>th<\/sup>, which is the day that the people came and got me, started foster-caring me: Loretta and Sylvester; they were married. She wrote in her high school year book: \u201cLoretta: I want to be a teacher, and I want a house full of kids.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy dad was a construction worker and built a large part of the city of Chicago. The story as Grandma and my dad tell was that:\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOh, my gosh, your father hated coming home from work; because your mother put him back to work. [Laughter] She wanted to get pregnant and have a kid; she wanted a house full. She had graduated from high school; went on and became a teacher. Five years of marriage\u2014and no kids\u2014so one day, she was like, \u201cWell, let\u2019s go to the orphanage; we can get a little girl. You\u2019ll be a great dad. We can foster care.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey decided to go to the orphanage downtown. She sees all these kids\u2014you\u2019ve got to know my mother; she was a teacher; she <em>loved<\/em> children\u2014and she saw all of these children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And she wanted a girl? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> She wanted a girl; but when she got there, and saw all of these kids, she wanted all of them\u2014that\u2019s what the story is\u2014she wanted <em>all<\/em> of them. She said, \u201cNo, I want to foster this little boy right here\u201d; so they started fostering <em>me<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWithin a couple of months of bringing me home\u2014she\u2019s relaxed, because she\u2019s got a kid\u2014Dad is like, \u201cYes! She\u2019s got a kid\u201d; and \u201cAh!\u201d she gets pregnant. [Laughter] A year later, she has my brother. She gets pregnant again; she has my sister. She gets pregnant again; she has my brother. She had three kids, back to back, after starting foster-caring me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt caused a little concern with the orphanage people; because they were like, \u201cOkay, now that they have their own kids, will they turn this kid back in?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> They continued to foster. At ten years old, they said, \u201cNo, let\u2019s go ahead,\u201d\u2014because they had been moving; they had to keep moving to different places\u2014even more real was, at ten years old, they were going through a divorce. At that age, in the \u201870s, you didn\u2019t have a single mom, with a bunch of kids, adopting a kid; but again, my mother was a force of nature. She was: \u201cNo, this is my kid; I have watched him and had him. I did everything but birth him.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI always knew I was adopted, but I didn\u2019t understand what any of that <em>meant<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Even at ten years old, when I was in the court room, and they were saying, \u201cYour name is going to change,\u201d I didn\u2019t really understand what that really meant. It was really around 11\/12 when I started: \u201cMan, I\u2019ve got brothers and sisters\/they really don\u2019t look like me; they don\u2019t act like me.\u201d Mom was trying to help me understand: \u201cWell, you were given up for adoption. We came, and we loved you; so we\u2019ve got you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was always loved by these guys; but I always wondered: \u201cMan, let\u2019s go find out what happened to my parents.\u201d My mother was like, \u201cWhy don\u2019t you turn 18? We\u2019ll get a private investigator; we\u2019ll help you do all that.\u201d Well, I could not <em>wait<\/em> to turn 18\u2014slowest years of my life were high school, because it could not go fast enough\u2014because I wanted it to hurry up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo 17 years old, 11 months, 29 days: \u201cMom, do we have the money? Do we have the private eye?\u201d My mother was like, \u201cWhat are you talking about?\u201d \u201cYou said, when I turned 18, we could go and find my birth parents and try to\u2026\u201d\u2014she just broke; it just broke her, because she\u2014\u201cYou didn\u2019t think I was a good mom?\u201d It had nothing\u2014again, it was this identity thing\u2014so I <em>never<\/em>\/I was very gracious to my mother, very <em>grateful<\/em>. I used to thank her all the time; she would: \u201cStop thanking me!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut again, I knew I could be still in this place; so I had to start going around her, because it was still in me. I wanted to know who and what: \u201cAlright, they\u2019ve got files in Springfield, Illinois\u2014they are sealed files\u2014but I am going to go down there. I\u2019m old enough. I had to do the draft,\u201d\u2014I mean, sign up to be eligible\u2014\u201cI can get student loans; I can drive a car and get a gun. I want to know what my information is, so I\u2019m going to Springfield. Boy, I\u2019m not letting my mom know.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, finally, I got it in my head: \u201cI\u2019m coming home for spring break.\u201d Called one of my buddies: \u201cWe\u2019re going to Springfield. We\u2019re going to stay down there until they give us our records. Seven o\u2019clock tomorrow morning\u201d; he said, \u201cI\u2019ll be there.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSeven o\u2019clock in the morning\u2014a little before then\u2014I get a phone call. The house\u2014it\u2019s the neighbor across the street\u2014\u201cHey, Joey, can you take me downtown to work? My car is not working.\u201d I say, \u201cHey, I\u2019m not going that way; I\u2019m going down to Springfield.\u201d She said, \u201cOh, well, is Loretta up?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cYes; Ma!\u201d; I gave her the phone. \u201cWhy don\u2019t you ask Joey?\u201d All I know is she is telling her: \u201cHe said he is going to Springfield or something.\u201d \u201cSpringfield?!\u201d\u2014I hear my mother say. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBy this point, the door is knocking; it\u2019s my buddy. We are getting ready to go to Springfield. She gets off the phone\u2014[to the neighbor] and she says, \u201cWell, I\u2019ll take you,\u201d\u2014she gets off the phone; she starts, \u201cKevin\u201d\u2014she calls me Kevin when she\u2019s getting to a point; it\u2019s Joseph Kevin [Laughter]\u2014\u201cKevin, Miss Helen says you\u2019re going down to Springfield. What\u2019s in Springfield?\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, she told.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, now, my partner is in the house; he\u2019s like, \u201cYou ready?\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cWell, Mom, I\u2019m going down to Springfield to get my original birth certificate\u2014whatever it is\u2014they sealed the file and all.\u201d She just broke and cried; I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, Ma! I\u2019m not going.\u201d He\u2019s upset, because we\u2019re not going; he was like, \u201cI could have stayed in bed. It\u2019s seven in the morning.\u201d Anyway, it was just a <em>long<\/em> journey on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Joseph, what is it in kids\u2014probably in all of us\u2014that wants to know the beginning and wants to know who their biological parents are? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I\u2019ve met some folks, who don\u2019t want to know. They know that they\u2019ve been given up for adoption, and they don\u2019t care; because in their mind, they are thinking, \u201cWell, if they loved me, they would have kept me.\u201d I do think it is a fa\u00e7ade; I think it\u2019s\u2014they don\u2019t want to, because it is <em>hard<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014when you start really grappling and wrestling with that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGrowing up, especially my teenage years, when you are going through all these changes anyway\u2014puberty, identity, hair on your face\u2014you are just trying to figure out this\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and you\u2019re trying to figure out who you are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014who you are; absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Now, did you go through some struggle;\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Oh, absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014because you feel like it was connected? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> You go through regular stuff, anyway, as a teenager. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> You just add that piece on because, at least, if you knew your mom and dad\/you grew up with that\u2014and you started to see hair coming on your face or whatever\u2014you can look in the mirror and say, \u201cYes, that\u2019s\/I\u2019m getting that from Granddaddy,\u201d or \u201cThat part I\u2019m getting from Mom.\u201d But when you are adopted, you don\u2019t have\/you have <em>no sense<\/em> of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI tell you the struggle\u2014the biggest was\u2014trying to come to a place, where I say, \u201cOkay; was I a product of rape, or incest, or an interracial relationship that wasn\u2019t acceptable?\u201d I only got to a place, where I could say, \u201cI guess it didn\u2019t matter; she had me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, when I met Mr. Cesar, the guy who found me\u2014and I started sharing that, my whole life, I kind of had that in my head\u2014he said, \u201cNo, she did more than had you; because she put you in a place where you could be found. She must have loved you, because she could have left you in a black plastic bag and left you in the alley; and I would have never found you. You would have froze out there.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt just took it to a whole other level of this woman\u2014again, it wasn\u2019t the way I wanted to be loved or thought\u2014but again, she could have aborted me. I\u2019m such a pro-life person, partly because I am here because of that. Regardless of the circumstance, I\u2019m here; and I thank God for it. But now, even more so, there is a guy Cesar; and people who came and got me; and an orphanage committed to taking care of kids, who were abandoned or parents who couldn\u2019t take care of the kids. So that\u2019s, again, orchestrated by the hand of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It sounds like your adoptive parents were pretty remarkable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> They were; they are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Here is what I would ask: \u201cWhat would you say to the adoptive parents, listening, that have a child; and maybe their child is doing the same thing you did: they <em>want<\/em> to know?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Yes; sure; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Your mom was sort of hurt by that. What would you say to the adoptive parent? How should they respond? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Like you respond to anything that your kid is going to work through and work on; you\u2019ve got to love them along. You\u2019ve got to give them a little bandwidth, so they can spread their wings. Because, again, you restrict them so much they may not be able to fly. You want to open the butterfly cocoon, and let the butterfly get out; but if there is no struggle in some of that, they won\u2019t be strong enough <em>to<\/em> fly. But also, that protection piece\u2014I didn\u2019t understand protection of your kid until I started having kids\u2014[Laughter]\u2014yes, now, I get why Momma was the way she was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think if you\u2019ve got a kid, who is in that search, you set the parameters as best you can and allow them that space that you are going to help. Again, it\u2019s not about <em>you<\/em>, per se; it\u2019s about <em>you both<\/em>. It\u2019s about: \u201cWhat does that relationship look like for both of you guys?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy mom and I got together and became even tighter after I started having kids, because I got what she was trying to do\u2014was protect me\u2014but then she got that it wasn\u2019t about me leaving her or me wanting\u2014I\u2019m 18; I\u2019m not trying to find another parent to tell me what to do or how to do\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but she didn\u2019t get that at the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo talking to those, who may think about foster care, in particular adopting, if you get to that space, \u201cHow do you love your kid <em>enough<\/em> to let them go?\u201d\u2014which is ultimately what we end up doing anyway. At one point, they will find a spouse and move on and all; but hopefully, you\u2019ve given them enough where they want to stay tethered, and come back, and call back from time to time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; I was thinking, when you answered that question, it\u2019s really the same advice you would give any parent\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Absolutely right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014with their own biological child. They are at a stage, where they have to become an adult. They\u2019re becoming an adult; it\u2019s a little scary, as the\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014mom or dad, because you are like: \u201cThey are pulling away; they are making decisions.\u201d You\u2019ve got to let them <em>fly<\/em>! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> You do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> At the same time, you have enough boundaries so they don\u2019t crash. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> They know they can come back, or call, or something like that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I love the fact that\u2014I mean, you are in a government office; you are very successful; and you are using all the gifts that God has given you\u2014and yet, you take the time to write these two books, <em>Saving Joey<\/em> and <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>. You take these books into schools\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and even around the world, and you <em>read<\/em> to kids. Talk about that\/of the response of the kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Wow; so I do that, because that\u2019s who I am\u2014since I was growing up and Mom said, \u201cYou need to watch your brothers and sisters; I\u2019ve got to get a second job,\u201d\u2014I was told to be involved in the community in which I lived and \u201cWatch over your brothers and sisters.\u201d I was told to do it because I was the oldest. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, I started a youth organization; and I thought that would be a good place to keep my brother and sisters. Well, it grew <em>fast<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wait! Wait! Wait! So <em>you<\/em> started this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right, this teen group in Chicago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How old were you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know\u2014probably 14\/15\u2014in fact, it got so big so fast that the adults would have their town hall meetings; and I was their liaison for the young people. I would come and speak to them about what we see\/or what the young people are seeing with the gangs and the drugs. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, now, going to the schools, I thoroughly enjoy just being out and talking; but it\u2019s also my way of giving back, which was given to me\u2014there was a community; and law enforcement; and an orphanage; and people, who came and said, \u201cI\u2019m going to get a kid as opposed to having\u2026\u201d\u2014again, we have our own biological kids; there was no choice in that\u2014but for somebody to go and say, \u201cI\u2019m going to give my time and my love to someone.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf I can share that\u2014and the kid who may be in foster care\u2014I go, and I read. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> After that, it may be a group of third graders. I\u2019m reading; at the end of the story, and I say, \u201cThe little kid in that basket\u2014that was me,\u201d\u2014there\u2019s an \u201cOH!\u201d It\u2019s the teacher that is like, \u201cThat\u2019s you?!\u201d \u201cYes, ma\u2019am.\u201d You see the kids, though\u2014the kids\u2014all of a sudden, a hand goes up\u2014\u201cI\u2019m in foster care,\u201d or \u201cI\u2019ve been adopted.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know, long after I\u2019m gone, they are still having that organic conversation about\u2014\u201cWhat does that even mean?\u2014that every kid doesn\u2019t have a mom and dad that is just with them, that you, almost, take for granted?\u201d \u201cNo; some have struggles, or some\u2026\u201d\u2014just to know that is happening, and they can go home and they can talk; maybe, it\u2019s happening. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll go and visit churches or men\u2019s group\u2014and we talk about that\u2014and \u201cHow do we take some of that, as part of a community, to say, \u2018I may not be able to adopt, but I can foster,\u2019 or \u2018If I can\u2019t foster care, I can, at least, volunteer and take somebody to a ball game\u2019?\u201d It changes lives. It changed my life, obviously. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And it\u2019s obvious that your faith\u2014and your wife June\u2019s faith\u2014that\u2019s who you are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s who I am. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Why is that important? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Well, one, from the very beginning, I was told\u2014I had a minister, who used to work for me\u2014I was just <em>struggling<\/em> with a lot of this shortly after I found out that I was <em>abandoned<\/em>. I said, \u201cI\u2019ve got to make some calls; I\u2019ve got to find out who this guy is.\u201d He said, \u201cYou\u2019re struggling with it, because you are going on a reverse plan.\u201d I was like, \u201cWhat are you talking about?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cAs a minister, you see people struggle with trying to figure out identity.\u201d He said, \u201cMost of us are born to our mom and dad, and we see dad as like God\u2014he is big; he is strong; and everybody looks up to him\u2014as we get a little older, we realize that dad has a lot of flaws; and momma calls him out on those flaws. Then they start their journey to find Christ and God.\u201d He said, \u201cYou went in reverse. God had His hand on the very beginning in your life, and you are just on this journey, trying to figure out who your <em>earthly<\/em> father is.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, I know God has had His hand in all of this\u2014so I think the faith walk has been, from the very beginning, it\u2019s kind of helped get me through my teenage years and writing to God about\u2014\u201cWhy me? Why did I get to this spot? Again, I guess it doesn\u2019t matter; I\u2019m here, and You\u2019ve been watching over; and You\u2019ve kept me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI got my master\u2019s in Christian Leadership. Again, we spent a lot of time\u2014got a number of men\u2019s groups; I do Bible studies in the morning with folks in different states\u2014it\u2019s just what keeps me moving. If I can continue to share the heart to someone\u2014that if they can see Christ in me\u2014then that\u2019s our call; right? He said: \u201cKeep your light on,\u201d \u201cBe the salt,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s what our call is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What\u2019s truly interesting\u2014there are so many facets of your story that you can step back\u2014I know you\u2019ve done this your whole life\u2014and go, \u201cWow! Look at God\u2019s hand.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of them that\u2019s very interesting is the people that saw you. One the passages I <em>love<\/em> in Scripture\u2014and I\u2019ve preached on it many times over 30 years as a pastor\u2014is the end of the first chapter of James, where he says, \u201cThis is what real religion is\u2026\u201d;\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Wow; wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014you know? He talks about keeping a tight rein on our tongue, which is interesting; he goes right there\u2014but then he says, \u201cCaring for orphans\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cand widows in distress.\u201d And you were an orphan; somebody cared for you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe know God was above the whole thing; but there was a person\u2014and a name and a mom\u2014and then your adoptive parents. I just think we, as followers of Christ\u2014you just said\u2014turn on the light and be the salt. We are called\/\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014the church is called to see orphans and care for them. You are sitting here today, a judge in Arkansas, because somebody did that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s our call! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Absolutely right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> If you are a follower of Christ, you <em>can\u2019t<\/em> walk by. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s why we believe in life from conception to the grave. It doesn\u2019t\/that\u2019s why we come alongside and say, \u201cGod put me beside this person, and I have eyes to see. Am I going to act?\u201d When we act, life change happens, like yours. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> In Washington County, Arkansas, which is where I am the judge there, the Court got together; they put a resolution together that we are going to be known as a pro-life county. We are the first pro-life county in the state of Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, I am a longtime advocate for life and pro-life marches in DC\u2014it\u2019s always sub-below zero\u2014to see the women and young people out there, that just says: \u201cYes, His life; we\u2019ll go,\u201d and \u201cHe will have His way.\u201d You talk about Scripture; this year, we are going to stand on Esther 4:14: \u201cFor such a time as this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014\u201ctime as this\u201d; that\u2019s good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Well, Esther was an orphan. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Just look to see, again, she didn\u2019t think a whole lot\u2014I <em>never<\/em> dreamed that this would be the work that I am in\u2014being as a deputy secretary or judge\u2014but she didn\u2019t ever think she would be queen either. But God orchestrates some of this. At that time, it was for her and some of those people in that area; but she did not know that work would end up impacting generations thereafter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s going to have His way, and He is going to use His people. Stay on your journey, and open up, and be used by Him. He will. I just\u2014again, I am grateful\u2014I have been blessed; and if He takes me, again, right now, I know I\u2019ve been blessed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, God is really using you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m thinking, \u201cWouldn\u2019t this be a great thing to do with your kids?\u2014to buy <em>Saving Joey<\/em> and <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>\u2014read it to your kids and talk about it.\u201d I think this begins in our homes, of talking about our responsibility, as believers, to <em>see<\/em> the orphan, to <em>see<\/em> the abandoned, to <em>see<\/em> the widow, and to say: \u201cKids, how can we impact? How can we love?\u201d\u2014and even, this is a hard one\u2014to be open-handed, of asking God, \u201cGod, what do You have for me in this area?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Wow; wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Because, Joseph, your story is so inspiring. Thank you for sharing all that God has done in your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In the book of James, Chapter 1, we read that pure and undefiled religion is taking care of the orphan and the widow in their need. I think Ann Wilson\u2019s charged all of us to be asking, \u201cWhat\u2019s our role in that as a family?\u201d That\u2019s a great conversation for us to be having with our kids and to be thinking creatively about how we can help the orphans and the widows in our world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd reading books together as a family\u2014the books that Ann was talking about: <em>Saving Joey<\/em> and <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>\u2014these books tell Joseph Wood\u2019s story. That\u2019s a great starting place. These are books we have available in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go online to order your copy of these books; the website is FamilyLifeToday.com, or you can call to order. Our number is 1-800-FL-TODAY. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. The number to call to order the books, <em>Saving Joey<\/em> and <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>: 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, this is a big weekend for us, here, at FamilyLife. We have seven <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaways happening all across the country\u2014Williamsburg, Virginia; Baltimore, Maryland; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Coeur d'Alene, Idaho; San Antonio, Texas; Sacramento, California; Portland, Oregon\u2014thousands of couples joining us for what has been, for more than 40 years now, a transformational weekend getaway for couples. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDavid Robbins, who is the president of FamilyLife, is here with me; and David, our hope\/our prayer is that this is going to be a life-changing, marriage-changing weekend for these couples. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> Oh, man, it\u2019s <em>so<\/em> encouraging to have this many <em>Weekend<\/em>s<em> to Remember<\/em> going on in one weekend. We invite you to pray; but we also invite you to think about in the year to come\u2014to check it out\u2014because there is a totally refreshed experience. The same timeless truth is represented at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>; but we have worked hard\u2014really, we started before the pandemic\u2014but the pandemic break of <em>Weekend<\/em>s<em> to Remember<\/em> allowed us to complete a refresh of the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> that I think you would be very encouraged about. Certainly, our teams have been out there, loving [to hear] how people are enjoying it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI got to speak to a couple, who had been married for ten years, and the wife told me, \u201cYou know, I learned this weekend that I don\u2019t need to panic in our pain. Our issues are common and expected in marriage; and there is always hope, because of Jesus and Jesus meeting us in our time of need.\u201d That\u2019s how Meg and I have been ministered to at <em>Weekend<\/em>s<em> to Remember<\/em> as we\u2019ve gone before as participants. Time and time again, God meets people where they are at. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>We invite you to pray, and we\u2019re excited about this weekend. We invite you to check out the 55 locations we will have in the spring and see if there is one near you coming that you\u2019d want to join. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In fact, you may want to think about giving a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> as a gift to children or friends during the holidays; you can get a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> gift card. Maybe, give it to your spouse as a way of saying, \u201cLet\u2019s get away together for a weekend in the spring.\u201d Get more information about the upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> schedule and about the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> gift certificates when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith that, we hope you have a great weekend. 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