{"id":307301,"date":"2021-11-18T08:03:41","date_gmt":"2021-11-18T13:03:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/chosen-twice\/"},"modified":"2021-11-18T08:03:41","modified_gmt":"2021-11-18T13:03:41","slug":"chosen-twice","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/chosen-twice\/","title":{"rendered":"Chosen Twice"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Do you have a heart for foster care or adoption?  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We\u2019re not even going to be able to go in the court room. It\u2019s going to be on Zoom; we\u2019ll just do it from home\u201d; but we booked a flight. Sitting in their little room in their house, with Holden on their lap, and the other three kids around us, looking into that screen\u2014and hearing that judge say, \u201cHolden is now a Wilson; he has all the rights of being a Wilson,\u201d\u2014I mean, it\u2019s like: \u201cThat\u2019s part of our legacy.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Ann Wilson.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m Dave Wilson, and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe were all crying hard because of the beauty of, not only him being adopted, but it reminded us, as children of God, we are all adopted into God\u2019s family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We\u2019ve got a <em>judge<\/em> in our studio. I don\u2019t know if that has ever happened <em>for us<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014not for us\u2014and I\u2019m excited. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We have Judge Joseph Wood with us today. I think you are going to <em>love<\/em> today, because we\u2019re going to talk about story and the story of adoption. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, what is really interesting about you is the story of how you ended up where you are. You are an author of a book called <em>Saving Joey<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>\u2014and the sequel, <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014and a father, and you\u2019ve got three daughters; how many grandkids? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Three. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Three grandkids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We had three sons; I don\u2019t know what it would be like to have three daughters. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Three daughters; whew! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You still have your hair; I lost mine. [Laughter] But welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We are <em>so glad<\/em> to have you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I am so honored to be here\u2014and part of the FamilyLife family in the audience\u2014really pleased to be here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Joseph, tell us what you do now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I am a Washington County Judge, here in Arkansas; first black county judge in Arkansas\u2019s history. I\u2019m in my second term now, responsible for one of the largest counties in the state of Arkansas and one of the fastest-growing in the state of Arkansas; in fact, one of the fastest growing in the country; we\u2019re number four in one of the best places to live. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> So we\u2019ve got a lot going on up there\u2014home of Walmart<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> headquarters, and Tyson<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> headquarters, and JB Hunt<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> headquarters, and the University of Arkansas\u2014so we have a lot in that area. A lot of roads, a lot of bridges that I\u2019m responsible for\u2014Department of Emergency Management\u2014and taking care of public safety and public security of that 250,000 people up there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Just a small job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Just a little, tiny job you\u2019re doing. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> It\u2019s a mighty one, that is for sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I heard, over lunch, you love to mow the yard; that\u2019s one of your favorite things. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Yes; oh, my. I\u2019ve cut so much grass, it seems, in my life. I\u2019m married now\u2014\u201cI\u2019m going to have all these boys,\u201d and I had three daughters; I did not push hard\u2014and my youngest, who is now 21, I think she went out <em>one day<\/em> to cut the grass. [Laughter] I think she made one long strip and came back: \u201cOh, that is so hard.\u201d Now, it was probably a little longer; it was probably a little wet, but that was the turnaround; she said, \u201cOh, yes.\u201d But she did more than the other two; the other two <em>never<\/em> went out there. [Laughter] So I still cut the grass. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You know, if I hadn\u2019t known your past by meeting you, I would not know the origins of how your life began. Take us back to the beginning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> There is a young girl; she is in her bedroom crying\u2014and I believe, it is a young teen, who just had a kid\u2014probably hid it; I have no idea. She knows she can\u2019t take care of this kid that she just had, a little boy. She takes blankets off her bed, finds a box in her closet, and puts him in there. She walks through the streets of Chicago. It\u2019s nighttime; it is snow and ice; eight degrees; and she sees an apartment complex. Tears are freezing on her face; she leaves this box on the stairs of the apartment complex. She hides behind a tree; she\u2019s hoping and praying that someone will come out and save the little boy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs she is getting ready to go and get the box, if nobody is coming, a light comes on in the apartment complex. She gets behind a tree again, and she sees somebody walking out of the complex. They notice the box; picks up the box\u2014sees there is a kid in the box\u2014the snow flurries are blowing; picks up the box carefully, but quickly goes back into the apartment complex. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat guy\u2019s name is Cesar [spelling uncertain] Johnson. He is now just stunned about what he just discovered, and he is waking his wife up. He\u2019s waking his neighbors up. He\u2019s spending time in the neighborhood, trying to figure out where this kid came from. They end up calling the Chicago Police Department a few hours later. They are asking questions. They are walking the neighborhood, again, trying to figure out where this kid came from. They told them, \u201cMr. Johnson, you saved this kid; it\u2019s eight degrees, snow and ice. We\u2019re going to take him to the orphanage in downtown Chicago.\u201d That was the beginning of my story. I only found this out about ten years ago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So you\u2019re the boy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I\u2019m the boy who was in that box that Mr. Cesar Johnson found and <em>never<\/em> knew any of that. I always knew I was adopted, grew up knowing I was adopted; but it was a closed adoption. There was no information. I always grew up with a curiosity, wanting to know what happened. I struggled a lot, as a teen, because I wanted to know: \u201cWhat did I do wrong?\u201d \u201cWhy was I given up?\u201d \u201cWas I a product of incest?\u201d \u201cWas I a product of a, maybe, interracial relationship that wasn\u2019t acceptable back then?\u201d \u201cWhy was I given up for adoption?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, ten years ago, I found out\u2014not only was I given up\u2014I was abandoned in the streets; it really just blew my mind. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; stop there for second. So you\u2019ve always known you were adopted. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> But to find out that your mom, or someone, left you on this porch in a box,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right; that\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014how did that hit you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Oh my gosh! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How old were you at the time when you found that out? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Forty-five years old. The laws have changed in Illinois. We had done a\u2014you\u2019ve heard of eHarmony, where you can do, or Match.com\u2014well, those who are adopted\/they can do a registry: put their information in; and those who gave up that kid can also fill that out. If there is a match, they can share. Most\/a lot of adoptions, especially back then\u2014the \u201850s and \u201860s\u2014a lot of them were closed, because you could have that information all sealed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI filled that out in my 20s\/30s; never heard anything. One day, I got a response that: \u201cI\u2019m your dad; you\u2019ve been matched.\u201d I\u2019m trying to call my wife\u2014she had just hung up the phone\u2014turned the phone off. Anyway, come to find out the guy thought it was me\/thought I was his kid; he had been searching for 40-something years. He is married, had kids and all. I said, \u201cWell, let\u2019s do a blood DNA.\u201d We did the DNA, and it wasn\u2019t a match. He was just devastated; I was devastated, because he knew for sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, but in that process, we found out that the law had changed in Illinois. Ten years ago, they said, \u201cIf you were ever adopted in the state of Illinois, you can have your original birth certificate.\u201d If I get my original birth certificate, I can confirm with this guy that maybe the woman was right\u2014he may not have been the dad\u2014but maybe she was right. He and I still became friends; and waited, and waited, and waited on this original certificate to come from Illinois; but they were overwhelmed by the number of people in Illinois, looking for their original birth certificate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMonths later, I finally got it. I had just finished cutting grass. I am sweating; I am just\u2014my wife said, \u201cYou got something from Illinois Vital Records,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m like, \u201cOh!\u201d They were like, \u201cDad, hurry up!\u201d I\u2019m opening it up; and it says\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> So your girls are all there too? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Oh, yes\u2014my girls, my wife; everybody\u2014and my mouth just\/I froze; because I got three daughters, and I know what a birth certificate looks like. \u201cThis is your foundling certificate.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cYou all, what is a foundling?!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> So I had to look it up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You didn\u2019t even know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I had no\/never heard of the word: \u201cFoundling: what is that?\u201d\u2014\u201cYou were found; you were abandoned.\u201d That, right there, just sucked all the wind: \u201cYou were found on this day.\u201d \u201cHold on; that is the day I celebrate as my birthday.\u201d \u201cNo, that is just the day you were found.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I am 45 years old. I mean, now I\u2019m married; and my mom is gone and all. The certificate went on to say that: \u201cYou were found on this day at this address by this man, Cesar Johnson; and you were received in the orphanage, St. Vincent\u2019s Orphanage by this doctor.\u201d Literally, for about three weeks, I just couldn\u2019t get that in my head that I was abandoned. \u201cSo man, what could have happened? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cWhat\u2019s the story?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u201cWhat was the story? What could have been so bad that I was left out in the streets?\u201d That\u2019s all I knew; I was just <em>found<\/em>. Well, I ended up saying, \u201cI wonder if I can find the doctor, who took me into the orphanage.\u201d I did all this research; I found him; he had died in 1999. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen I said, \u201cI wonder if I can find the guy who found me.\u201d I went through all this research. I found a lot of Cesar Johnsons in the state of Illinois; but not\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So you knew the name.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014because it was on the certificate: Cesar Johnson\/Cesar L. Johnson. I found a bunch of Cesar Johnsons\u2014but they were all\/like 90 percent of them were younger than me\u2014only three names were left. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cOkay; alright.\u201d Ten o\u2019clock in the morning, I called my wife. I was in Little Rock; I was the Deputy Secretary of State. I called my wife; I say, \u201cHow do I get someone to take my number down?\u201d She said, \u201cWhy?\u201d I said, \u201cI\u2019m about to call these names; and if I say something that shocks them or surprises them, at least, they will have my number if they want to call back.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy wife: \u201cWill you just call? You\u2019re always analyzing. Just get out of your head.\u201d [Laughter] Twenty-nine years of marriage\u2014just do what they say\u2014just renders life a little simpler. I went ahead and I called the very first number. It was an older woman, who answered the phone. I said, \u201cHey, my name is Joseph; I\u2019m here in Arkansas. I\u2019m looking for a guy by the name of Cesar Johnson. He spells his name a little different. He saved someone.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cHold on! Saved someone!\u201d I can\u2019t see her, but her expression\u2014her voice\/intonation\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cSaved someone! My husband saved someone?\u201d I said, \u201cWell, yes, ma\u2019am.\u201d She said, \u201cWell, he does spell his name different; how did he spell it?\u201d I started spelling it. She said, \u201cYes, that\u2019s correct.\u201d She said, \u201cSaved someone?!\u201d I said, \u201cYes, ma\u2019am.\u201d She said, \u201cWell, what\u2019s your phone number?\u201d I am now crawfishing; I\u2019m kind of pulling back, like\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s weird. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cWhy do you need my phone number?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cHe is 80 years old. He is hard of hearing; I may have to switch phones.\u201d Now, I\u2019m back in my head. I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWow; if he is 80, and I\u2019m 45, that could be about right.\u201d At the time, I\u2019m working all the numbers. I hear, \u201cHello? What\u2019s your phone number?\u201d I\u2019m like going through my number. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cOh! You said saved someone.\u201d I said, \u201cYes, ma\u2019am.\u201d She said, \u201cWas it a baby he saved?\u201d [Laughter] \u201cYes, ma\u2019am.\u201d \u201cAre you the baby he saved?\u201d \u201cYes, ma\u2019am.\u201d \u201c[Excitedly] Oh, Jesus! Jesus! Oh, Lord Jesus!\u201d She went on a Holy Ghost melt down [Laughter]: \u201cOh, Jesus! Jesus!\u201d I just started bawling; I am crying\u2014I mean, the whole nine\u2014snot-ting. [Laughter] \u201cOh, Jesus! Oh, Cesar! That baby you saved. Oh, Jesus! Oh, Jesus!\u201d She kept going and going. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI could not control my\u2014I\u2019m in my office\u2014I know my office people were like, \u201cWhat is going on with him?!\u201d All of a sudden, he comes to the phone. Mr. Cesar is very different than Mrs. Ruthie is [Laughter]; yes, Mrs. Ruthie is a little different. He comes to the phone: \u201cHello?\u201d [Crying]: \u201cMy name is Joseph.\u201d \u201cHello?\u201d\u2014he can\u2019t hear anything, because you can hear her in the background\u2014\u201cHey, can I tell him?\u201d She\u2019s just going a mile a minute. He comes back, \u201cI remember that like it was yesterday. You\u2019re alive; oh my! That had to be like 50 years ago.\u201d \u201cNo, it was only 45.\u201d [Laughter] I had to make sure he knew. But he said, \u201cOh my! Wow! I remember it like it was yesterday, and you\u2019re alive. If you ever get to Chicago, we would love to meet you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe did get to Chicago; we always go to Chicago around Thanksgiving. This was October; I said, \u201cI\u2019ll be there in a month.\u201d We got to spend a lot of time with him over the years; he passed away a few years ago. Private First-Class, a Korean veteran; so I tell everybody: \u201cI was saved by a vet.\u201d I love veterans; I never knew why. My grandparents and uncles were; but I literally was saved by a veteran. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt meant a lot to him\u2014didn\u2019t know all of this\u2014one year, he asked if we would go to his family reunion. Every year in January, they have a big family reunion in Mississippi\/Greenwood, Mississippi. I said, \u201cI don\u2019t know your family.\u201d My wife said, \u201cWe\u2019ll go.\u201d I said, \u201cWe don\u2019t know his family; we don\u2019t anybody in his family. We only know them.\u201d [Laughter] He was like: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t want my family to ever take for granted what you\u2019ve been searching for. We will have 300-plus people at this thing. We\u2019ll do a masquerade ball on Friday night; we\u2019ll do a picnic on Saturday; then Sunday, the church service is all dedicated to us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy mother had 17 kids\u2014the glue of the community, the glue in the church, and the glue of our family\u2014so when she passed away, this was our way of honoring her; so 39 years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cOkay; we\u2019ll go.\u201d Well, two weeks before this\u2014Christmas\u2014we get a phone call from \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMiss Ruthie. Cesar is in the hospital; his kidneys have collapsed; he 80 at that time\u201484\/85\u2014and they can\u2019t travel. \u201cWill you please still go?\u201d I said, \u201cWe don\u2019t know anybody there; no, we\u2019re not going! I don\u2019t know anybody!\u201d [Laughter] My wife was like, \u201cWe\u2019re going to go\u201d; so we went\u2014I\u2019m the man of the house\u2014we\u2019re driving. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe get there; they loved on us just like Cesar did\u2014the tightness of that family and all\u2014well, here it is: Sunday was the service all around their family, and then there is this luncheon. All of these people were there. Then they introduced: \u201cThe Deputy Secretary of Arkansas is here, and he is going to be our keynote. His name is Joseph Wood, and he is going to talk and share with us about family and how he got tied into our family.\u201d I started just sharing the story; and at the end of it,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m already crying! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014they\u2019re crying. There are men up there older than me crying, and I don\u2019t understand why they are crying. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, come to find out: they said, \u201cWe used to spend\u2014we could not <em>wait<\/em>\u2014every summer was to go and spend it with Uncle Cesar in Chicago. He always told us about this kid that he found, and now you are standing in front of us.\u201d Well, what they also did was they sent notes to Ruthie back there, that said, \u201cYou were screaming and shouting on the phone and the Holy Ghost.\u201d She\u2019s like, \u201cYou don\u2019t know why I was screaming and shouting.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe called me, while I was still there: \u201cWhy?\u2014you told them that!\u201d I said, \u201cWell, it is true!\u201d \u201cYou don\u2019t know why I was screaming and shouting.\u201d I said, \u201cI just thought you got filled with the Holy Spirit; I don\u2019t know\/sanctified.\u201d She said, \u201cI was crying because he always wondered whatever happened to that kid. When you said that you were the kid that he found, I knew the Lord had answered his prayers; so that\u2019s why I was screaming and shouting.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnyway, we had this great relationship; in fact, when he passed away, we went to Chicago for his funeral. The only thing that he wanted on his suit, when he passed away, was an Arkansas flag pin that I gave him\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> No way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014because he said, being in the war and all, this was one of the things that he did in his life\u2014he couldn\u2019t save people in Korea; that was the forgotten war that people kind of forget about\u2014in fact, Illinois gave him a citation\/the state legislature gave him a citation, saying: \u201cThank you for your service to our country; but thank you also for saving this kid, because now Arkansas benefits. They get their first Deputy Secretary of State\u2026\u201d\u2014at that point, I was a judge. They thanked him. So for him, all of his life, he heard\/he knew about what he did\u2014and his family knew about it\u2014but then Illinois recognized him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnyway, that is just our story. His wife passed away two years ago. It was hard, because that was my first connection of anything of how I got started. To this day, we still don\u2019t know how we got to the apartment complex. In the book, <em>Saving Joey<\/em>, I write that I believe it was a teenage girl; but growing up, I had no idea. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You really don\u2019t know. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I have <em>nothing<\/em>; all I know is he found me in a box on his stairs. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think about your story; I think about Joseph in the Bible. I think about how God used everything in his beginning years\u2014and even the pain and the suffering that he went through\u2014to lead a nation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Wow; that\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think about you\u2014and the response of Cesar and his wife, of thinking, \u201cLord, Your faithfulness in allowing this young woman to drop you specifically on this doorstep\u201d; because God knew they would be faithful in getting you to the right place in the orphanage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that is true for all of us, but I think we can struggle with our backgrounds and our stories. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, it is interesting: those of us, who know our mom and dad, and have a birth certificate with their names on it, still struggle to find identity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Sure. <br><br><strong>Dave:<\/strong> And yet, you didn\u2019t know; and you are on the same journey in a different way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> But you know\u2014what is interesting\u2014part of our identity comes from our name. How did you get your name? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Did Cesar name you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> No; so one particular year, I was the key speaker for the homecoming at the orphanage, St. Vincent\u2019s\/now, Catholic Charities. As I\u2019m sharing my story, and everybody is crying and all of that,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> This is the orphanage that the police took you to? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. It is now Catholic Charities; but at the time, it was St. Vincent\u2019s Infant Asylum, beautiful place. Anyway, they had a homecoming; and I\u2019m the key. I\u2019m talking and sharing; and at the end, they are clapping and all. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, they also had some of the nuns, who come back as well; because they remember some of this stuff. They have items that they collected: this was their call; this was their ministry. Well, one of the nuns stood up and said, \u201cI named you!\u201d My wife and my dad were there; we go, \u201cWhat are you talking about?\u201d Her name was Mary Josephine Talisman. She was a nun; and at the time, how they named kids was the most senior nun named the next kid that came in. Well, it was her turn; she was up in the rotation. Everybody knew\u2014if it was a girl coming in, it would be Josephine; if it was a boy coming in, his name was Joseph\u2014and I came in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, how did all of this come up? Two years before, I was speaking at the homecoming; I was at the homecoming. We had done an article\u2014Cesar and I\u2014a Pulitzer Prize writer in Chicago wrote an article about: \u201cArkansas State Official Finds the Guy Who Finds Him as He Is on His Search for His Family.\u201d They do this big article for a Sunday newspaper. Sister Mary\u2014well, she\u2019s not a sister anymore\u2014she <em>was<\/em> Sister Mary Jo. She is now married; and she is in the kitchen, making coffee for her husband. She is reading the newspaper, and she stops. She says, \u201cThis is my baby!\u201d [Laughter] Again, this is my\u2014\u201cI named this kid!\u201d\u2014that was it. She was sharing this with her husband; her husband has no clue about any of this stuff. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTwo years later, she is at this homecoming, and she\u2019s like, \u201cThat\u2019s the one that was in the paper; that\u2019s my kid!\u201d She tells the story. This was less than probably seven years ago, at one of the homecomings, that I found out how my name came. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s really\u2014what\u2019s truly amazing\u2014every aspect, the more I hear about your story, is just layer upon layer of <em>remarkable<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That is God\u2019s grace. I can\u2019t\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Totally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEarlier, when you were talking, I\u2019m looking across the studio here\u2014I\u2019m looking at Randall from <em>This Is Us<\/em>; you know?\u2014[Laughter]\u2014it\u2019s like, \u201cHe\u2019s on the same search; he sort of ends up in government.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He was a foundling. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s so similar; then, as Ann said, there is Joseph. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I see Moses, who was left, and God had a plan for his life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> But the truth is, as I listen to it\u2014and you know this better than any of us\u2014God\u2019s hand and God\u2019s providence, even when you are on a front porch in the snow,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014was on your life. The thing is: we can often think He <em>doesn\u2019t<\/em> see us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And He <em>does<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know there is a listener, right now, that doesn\u2019t have the remarkable story you have; but maybe, is struggling with: \u201cDoes God notice?\u201d \u201cDoes God care?\u201d \u201cDoes God see me?\u201d\u2014even in a struggling marriage\u2014or maybe there is a son or a daughter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s good; that\u2019s good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Your story reminds us He <em>really<\/em> <em>does<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Even in the dark of the night, when you think He is far off,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014He\u2019s right there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014He\u2019s right there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Absolutely right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> He\u2019s got a plan for your life\u2014it\u2019s going to look differently than yours or mine\u2014but He can be trusted, because He has adopted us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. We adopted folks\/we say, \u201cWe\u2019re kind of special, because we are <em>twice<\/em> adopted.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, you are right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right: somebody chose us; and then, when we come to know the Lord\u2014man!\u2014twice!\u2014 we\u2019ve got something. When you get together with a bunch of adopted folks, you kind of start picking that up and hearing to know how He placed us in a place, where we can be loved and have a second chance\/this living thing\u2014but then to know that the eternal life with Him and His Father\u2014it\u2019s kind of special there. There you go! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, here we go. I would like to read this, as we close, from Ephesians 1; it\u2019s such a beautiful statement over your story; it says: \u201cPraise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ for He chose us\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Yes; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cin Him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in His sight. He predestined us for adoption to son-ship through Jesus Christ in accordance with His pleasure and will.\u201d That\u2019s true, obviously, about you; we\u2019ve just heard it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s the beauty of being able to lay your head on a pillow tonight and go, \u201cI know that there is a God, who loves me, sees me, and has adopted me; and my life is in His hands, and I can rest in that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The Bible tells us that our times are in His hands. As we\u2019ve heard today from Joseph Wood, there is a first-hand illustration of how God is the one who cares for and superintends the details of our lives. Joseph Wood\u2019s story is told in a series of two books for children: one is called <em>Saving Joey: A True Life Story<\/em>; the other is called <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>: it\u2019s a sequel to his first book. Both of these written for children, books that we have available in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>You can find out how you can order them: go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY for more information. Again, the books are called <em>Saving Joey: A True Life Story<\/em> and then <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>, a sequel to <em>Saving Joey<\/em>. Both of them are available in the <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Order from us online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY,\u201d to order your copy of these books. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I think all of us know, deep down, how important a family is\u2014how fundamental and foundational it is to our development\u2014either for good or for ill. Here, at FamilyLife, our mission\/our goal is to effectively develop <em>godly<\/em> marriages and families. We believe that the world can be changed one home at a time as marriages and families come into alignment with God\u2019s purposes and God\u2019s will. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s a mission you make possible whenever you support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Your donations help extend the reach and the impact of this ministry in the lives of so many couples\/so many families every day. You make all of this possible when you donate. Right now, if you are able to help with a donation, we\u2019d love to send you a copy of Crystal Paine\u2019s new book, <em>Love-Centered Parenting<\/em>, as our way of saying, \u201cThank you for your ongoing support of the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can donate online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or you can call to donate at 1-800-FL-TODAY. When you do, be sure to ask for your copy of the book, <em>Love-Centered Parenting<\/em>. Thank you, in advance, for reaching out and helping to make the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> possible for you, for your neighbors, and for people all around the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you can join us, again, tomorrow when we are going to pick up Joseph Wood\u2019s story: hear about how he got to the orphanage, his time in the orphanage, being adopted, and how he got to where he is today. We\u2019ll hear the rest of that story tomorrow. I hope you can be with us for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOn behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelping you pursue the relationships that matter most.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2021 FamilyLife. 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I\u2019m Ann Wilson.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m Dave Wilson, and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe were all crying hard because of the beauty of, not only him being adopted, but it reminded us, as children of God, we are all adopted into God\u2019s family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We\u2019ve got a <em>judge<\/em> in our studio. I don\u2019t know if that has ever happened <em>for us<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014not for us\u2014and I\u2019m excited. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We have Judge Joseph Wood with us today. I think you are going to <em>love<\/em> today, because we\u2019re going to talk about story and the story of adoption. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, what is really interesting about you is the story of how you ended up where you are. You are an author of a book called <em>Saving Joey<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>\u2014and the sequel, <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014and a father, and you\u2019ve got three daughters; how many grandkids? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Three. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Three grandkids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We had three sons; I don\u2019t know what it would be like to have three daughters. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Three daughters; whew! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You still have your hair; I lost mine. [Laughter] But welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We are <em>so glad<\/em> to have you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I am so honored to be here\u2014and part of the FamilyLife family in the audience\u2014really pleased to be here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Joseph, tell us what you do now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I am a Washington County Judge, here in Arkansas; first black county judge in Arkansas\u2019s history. I\u2019m in my second term now, responsible for one of the largest counties in the state of Arkansas and one of the fastest-growing in the state of Arkansas; in fact, one of the fastest growing in the country; we\u2019re number four in one of the best places to live. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> So we\u2019ve got a lot going on up there\u2014home of Walmart<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> headquarters, and Tyson<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> headquarters, and JB Hunt<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> headquarters, and the University of Arkansas\u2014so we have a lot in that area. A lot of roads, a lot of bridges that I\u2019m responsible for\u2014Department of Emergency Management\u2014and taking care of public safety and public security of that 250,000 people up there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Just a small job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Just a little, tiny job you\u2019re doing. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> It\u2019s a mighty one, that is for sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I heard, over lunch, you love to mow the yard; that\u2019s one of your favorite things. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Yes; oh, my. I\u2019ve cut so much grass, it seems, in my life. I\u2019m married now\u2014\u201cI\u2019m going to have all these boys,\u201d and I had three daughters; I did not push hard\u2014and my youngest, who is now 21, I think she went out <em>one day<\/em> to cut the grass. [Laughter] I think she made one long strip and came back: \u201cOh, that is so hard.\u201d Now, it was probably a little longer; it was probably a little wet, but that was the turnaround; she said, \u201cOh, yes.\u201d But she did more than the other two; the other two <em>never<\/em> went out there. [Laughter] So I still cut the grass. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You know, if I hadn\u2019t known your past by meeting you, I would not know the origins of how your life began. Take us back to the beginning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> There is a young girl; she is in her bedroom crying\u2014and I believe, it is a young teen, who just had a kid\u2014probably hid it; I have no idea. She knows she can\u2019t take care of this kid that she just had, a little boy. She takes blankets off her bed, finds a box in her closet, and puts him in there. She walks through the streets of Chicago. It\u2019s nighttime; it is snow and ice; eight degrees; and she sees an apartment complex. Tears are freezing on her face; she leaves this box on the stairs of the apartment complex. She hides behind a tree; she\u2019s hoping and praying that someone will come out and save the little boy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs she is getting ready to go and get the box, if nobody is coming, a light comes on in the apartment complex. She gets behind a tree again, and she sees somebody walking out of the complex. They notice the box; picks up the box\u2014sees there is a kid in the box\u2014the snow flurries are blowing; picks up the box carefully, but quickly goes back into the apartment complex. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat guy\u2019s name is Cesar [spelling uncertain] Johnson. He is now just stunned about what he just discovered, and he is waking his wife up. He\u2019s waking his neighbors up. He\u2019s spending time in the neighborhood, trying to figure out where this kid came from. They end up calling the Chicago Police Department a few hours later. They are asking questions. They are walking the neighborhood, again, trying to figure out where this kid came from. They told them, \u201cMr. Johnson, you saved this kid; it\u2019s eight degrees, snow and ice. We\u2019re going to take him to the orphanage in downtown Chicago.\u201d That was the beginning of my story. I only found this out about ten years ago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So you\u2019re the boy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I\u2019m the boy who was in that box that Mr. Cesar Johnson found and <em>never<\/em> knew any of that. I always knew I was adopted, grew up knowing I was adopted; but it was a closed adoption. There was no information. I always grew up with a curiosity, wanting to know what happened. I struggled a lot, as a teen, because I wanted to know: \u201cWhat did I do wrong?\u201d \u201cWhy was I given up?\u201d \u201cWas I a product of incest?\u201d \u201cWas I a product of a, maybe, interracial relationship that wasn\u2019t acceptable back then?\u201d \u201cWhy was I given up for adoption?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, ten years ago, I found out\u2014not only was I given up\u2014I was abandoned in the streets; it really just blew my mind. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; stop there for second. So you\u2019ve always known you were adopted. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> But to find out that your mom, or someone, left you on this porch in a box,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right; that\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014how did that hit you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Oh my gosh! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How old were you at the time when you found that out? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Forty-five years old. The laws have changed in Illinois. We had done a\u2014you\u2019ve heard of eHarmony, where you can do, or Match.com\u2014well, those who are adopted\/they can do a registry: put their information in; and those who gave up that kid can also fill that out. If there is a match, they can share. Most\/a lot of adoptions, especially back then\u2014the \u201850s and \u201860s\u2014a lot of them were closed, because you could have that information all sealed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI filled that out in my 20s\/30s; never heard anything. One day, I got a response that: \u201cI\u2019m your dad; you\u2019ve been matched.\u201d I\u2019m trying to call my wife\u2014she had just hung up the phone\u2014turned the phone off. Anyway, come to find out the guy thought it was me\/thought I was his kid; he had been searching for 40-something years. He is married, had kids and all. I said, \u201cWell, let\u2019s do a blood DNA.\u201d We did the DNA, and it wasn\u2019t a match. He was just devastated; I was devastated, because he knew for sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, but in that process, we found out that the law had changed in Illinois. Ten years ago, they said, \u201cIf you were ever adopted in the state of Illinois, you can have your original birth certificate.\u201d If I get my original birth certificate, I can confirm with this guy that maybe the woman was right\u2014he may not have been the dad\u2014but maybe she was right. He and I still became friends; and waited, and waited, and waited on this original certificate to come from Illinois; but they were overwhelmed by the number of people in Illinois, looking for their original birth certificate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMonths later, I finally got it. I had just finished cutting grass. I am sweating; I am just\u2014my wife said, \u201cYou got something from Illinois Vital Records,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m like, \u201cOh!\u201d They were like, \u201cDad, hurry up!\u201d I\u2019m opening it up; and it says\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> So your girls are all there too? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Oh, yes\u2014my girls, my wife; everybody\u2014and my mouth just\/I froze; because I got three daughters, and I know what a birth certificate looks like. \u201cThis is your foundling certificate.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cYou all, what is a foundling?!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> So I had to look it up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You didn\u2019t even know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I had no\/never heard of the word: \u201cFoundling: what is that?\u201d\u2014\u201cYou were found; you were abandoned.\u201d That, right there, just sucked all the wind: \u201cYou were found on this day.\u201d \u201cHold on; that is the day I celebrate as my birthday.\u201d \u201cNo, that is just the day you were found.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I am 45 years old. I mean, now I\u2019m married; and my mom is gone and all. The certificate went on to say that: \u201cYou were found on this day at this address by this man, Cesar Johnson; and you were received in the orphanage, St. Vincent\u2019s Orphanage by this doctor.\u201d Literally, for about three weeks, I just couldn\u2019t get that in my head that I was abandoned. \u201cSo man, what could have happened? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cWhat\u2019s the story?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u201cWhat was the story? What could have been so bad that I was left out in the streets?\u201d That\u2019s all I knew; I was just <em>found<\/em>. Well, I ended up saying, \u201cI wonder if I can find the doctor, who took me into the orphanage.\u201d I did all this research; I found him; he had died in 1999. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen I said, \u201cI wonder if I can find the guy who found me.\u201d I went through all this research. I found a lot of Cesar Johnsons in the state of Illinois; but not\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So you knew the name.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014because it was on the certificate: Cesar Johnson\/Cesar L. Johnson. I found a bunch of Cesar Johnsons\u2014but they were all\/like 90 percent of them were younger than me\u2014only three names were left. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cOkay; alright.\u201d Ten o\u2019clock in the morning, I called my wife. I was in Little Rock; I was the Deputy Secretary of State. I called my wife; I say, \u201cHow do I get someone to take my number down?\u201d She said, \u201cWhy?\u201d I said, \u201cI\u2019m about to call these names; and if I say something that shocks them or surprises them, at least, they will have my number if they want to call back.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy wife: \u201cWill you just call? You\u2019re always analyzing. Just get out of your head.\u201d [Laughter] Twenty-nine years of marriage\u2014just do what they say\u2014just renders life a little simpler. I went ahead and I called the very first number. It was an older woman, who answered the phone. I said, \u201cHey, my name is Joseph; I\u2019m here in Arkansas. I\u2019m looking for a guy by the name of Cesar Johnson. He spells his name a little different. He saved someone.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cHold on! Saved someone!\u201d I can\u2019t see her, but her expression\u2014her voice\/intonation\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cSaved someone! My husband saved someone?\u201d I said, \u201cWell, yes, ma\u2019am.\u201d She said, \u201cWell, he does spell his name different; how did he spell it?\u201d I started spelling it. She said, \u201cYes, that\u2019s correct.\u201d She said, \u201cSaved someone?!\u201d I said, \u201cYes, ma\u2019am.\u201d She said, \u201cWell, what\u2019s your phone number?\u201d I am now crawfishing; I\u2019m kind of pulling back, like\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s weird. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cWhy do you need my phone number?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cHe is 80 years old. He is hard of hearing; I may have to switch phones.\u201d Now, I\u2019m back in my head. I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWow; if he is 80, and I\u2019m 45, that could be about right.\u201d At the time, I\u2019m working all the numbers. I hear, \u201cHello? What\u2019s your phone number?\u201d I\u2019m like going through my number. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cOh! You said saved someone.\u201d I said, \u201cYes, ma\u2019am.\u201d She said, \u201cWas it a baby he saved?\u201d [Laughter] \u201cYes, ma\u2019am.\u201d \u201cAre you the baby he saved?\u201d \u201cYes, ma\u2019am.\u201d \u201c[Excitedly] Oh, Jesus! Jesus! Oh, Lord Jesus!\u201d She went on a Holy Ghost melt down [Laughter]: \u201cOh, Jesus! Jesus!\u201d I just started bawling; I am crying\u2014I mean, the whole nine\u2014snot-ting. [Laughter] \u201cOh, Jesus! Oh, Cesar! That baby you saved. Oh, Jesus! Oh, Jesus!\u201d She kept going and going. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI could not control my\u2014I\u2019m in my office\u2014I know my office people were like, \u201cWhat is going on with him?!\u201d All of a sudden, he comes to the phone. Mr. Cesar is very different than Mrs. Ruthie is [Laughter]; yes, Mrs. Ruthie is a little different. He comes to the phone: \u201cHello?\u201d [Crying]: \u201cMy name is Joseph.\u201d \u201cHello?\u201d\u2014he can\u2019t hear anything, because you can hear her in the background\u2014\u201cHey, can I tell him?\u201d She\u2019s just going a mile a minute. He comes back, \u201cI remember that like it was yesterday. You\u2019re alive; oh my! That had to be like 50 years ago.\u201d \u201cNo, it was only 45.\u201d [Laughter] I had to make sure he knew. But he said, \u201cOh my! Wow! I remember it like it was yesterday, and you\u2019re alive. If you ever get to Chicago, we would love to meet you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe did get to Chicago; we always go to Chicago around Thanksgiving. This was October; I said, \u201cI\u2019ll be there in a month.\u201d We got to spend a lot of time with him over the years; he passed away a few years ago. Private First-Class, a Korean veteran; so I tell everybody: \u201cI was saved by a vet.\u201d I love veterans; I never knew why. My grandparents and uncles were; but I literally was saved by a veteran. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt meant a lot to him\u2014didn\u2019t know all of this\u2014one year, he asked if we would go to his family reunion. Every year in January, they have a big family reunion in Mississippi\/Greenwood, Mississippi. I said, \u201cI don\u2019t know your family.\u201d My wife said, \u201cWe\u2019ll go.\u201d I said, \u201cWe don\u2019t know his family; we don\u2019t anybody in his family. We only know them.\u201d [Laughter] He was like: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t want my family to ever take for granted what you\u2019ve been searching for. We will have 300-plus people at this thing. We\u2019ll do a masquerade ball on Friday night; we\u2019ll do a picnic on Saturday; then Sunday, the church service is all dedicated to us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy mother had 17 kids\u2014the glue of the community, the glue in the church, and the glue of our family\u2014so when she passed away, this was our way of honoring her; so 39 years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cOkay; we\u2019ll go.\u201d Well, two weeks before this\u2014Christmas\u2014we get a phone call from \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMiss Ruthie. Cesar is in the hospital; his kidneys have collapsed; he 80 at that time\u201484\/85\u2014and they can\u2019t travel. \u201cWill you please still go?\u201d I said, \u201cWe don\u2019t know anybody there; no, we\u2019re not going! I don\u2019t know anybody!\u201d [Laughter] My wife was like, \u201cWe\u2019re going to go\u201d; so we went\u2014I\u2019m the man of the house\u2014we\u2019re driving. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe get there; they loved on us just like Cesar did\u2014the tightness of that family and all\u2014well, here it is: Sunday was the service all around their family, and then there is this luncheon. All of these people were there. Then they introduced: \u201cThe Deputy Secretary of Arkansas is here, and he is going to be our keynote. His name is Joseph Wood, and he is going to talk and share with us about family and how he got tied into our family.\u201d I started just sharing the story; and at the end of it,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m already crying! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014they\u2019re crying. There are men up there older than me crying, and I don\u2019t understand why they are crying. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, come to find out: they said, \u201cWe used to spend\u2014we could not <em>wait<\/em>\u2014every summer was to go and spend it with Uncle Cesar in Chicago. He always told us about this kid that he found, and now you are standing in front of us.\u201d Well, what they also did was they sent notes to Ruthie back there, that said, \u201cYou were screaming and shouting on the phone and the Holy Ghost.\u201d She\u2019s like, \u201cYou don\u2019t know why I was screaming and shouting.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe called me, while I was still there: \u201cWhy?\u2014you told them that!\u201d I said, \u201cWell, it is true!\u201d \u201cYou don\u2019t know why I was screaming and shouting.\u201d I said, \u201cI just thought you got filled with the Holy Spirit; I don\u2019t know\/sanctified.\u201d She said, \u201cI was crying because he always wondered whatever happened to that kid. When you said that you were the kid that he found, I knew the Lord had answered his prayers; so that\u2019s why I was screaming and shouting.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnyway, we had this great relationship; in fact, when he passed away, we went to Chicago for his funeral. The only thing that he wanted on his suit, when he passed away, was an Arkansas flag pin that I gave him\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> No way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014because he said, being in the war and all, this was one of the things that he did in his life\u2014he couldn\u2019t save people in Korea; that was the forgotten war that people kind of forget about\u2014in fact, Illinois gave him a citation\/the state legislature gave him a citation, saying: \u201cThank you for your service to our country; but thank you also for saving this kid, because now Arkansas benefits. They get their first Deputy Secretary of State\u2026\u201d\u2014at that point, I was a judge. They thanked him. So for him, all of his life, he heard\/he knew about what he did\u2014and his family knew about it\u2014but then Illinois recognized him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnyway, that is just our story. His wife passed away two years ago. It was hard, because that was my first connection of anything of how I got started. To this day, we still don\u2019t know how we got to the apartment complex. In the book, <em>Saving Joey<\/em>, I write that I believe it was a teenage girl; but growing up, I had no idea. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You really don\u2019t know. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> I have <em>nothing<\/em>; all I know is he found me in a box on his stairs. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think about your story; I think about Joseph in the Bible. I think about how God used everything in his beginning years\u2014and even the pain and the suffering that he went through\u2014to lead a nation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Wow; that\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think about you\u2014and the response of Cesar and his wife, of thinking, \u201cLord, Your faithfulness in allowing this young woman to drop you specifically on this doorstep\u201d; because God knew they would be faithful in getting you to the right place in the orphanage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that is true for all of us, but I think we can struggle with our backgrounds and our stories. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, it is interesting: those of us, who know our mom and dad, and have a birth certificate with their names on it, still struggle to find identity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Sure. <br><br><strong>Dave:<\/strong> And yet, you didn\u2019t know; and you are on the same journey in a different way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> But you know\u2014what is interesting\u2014part of our identity comes from our name. How did you get your name? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Did Cesar name you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> No; so one particular year, I was the key speaker for the homecoming at the orphanage, St. Vincent\u2019s\/now, Catholic Charities. As I\u2019m sharing my story, and everybody is crying and all of that,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> This is the orphanage that the police took you to? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. It is now Catholic Charities; but at the time, it was St. Vincent\u2019s Infant Asylum, beautiful place. Anyway, they had a homecoming; and I\u2019m the key. I\u2019m talking and sharing; and at the end, they are clapping and all. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, they also had some of the nuns, who come back as well; because they remember some of this stuff. They have items that they collected: this was their call; this was their ministry. Well, one of the nuns stood up and said, \u201cI named you!\u201d My wife and my dad were there; we go, \u201cWhat are you talking about?\u201d Her name was Mary Josephine Talisman. She was a nun; and at the time, how they named kids was the most senior nun named the next kid that came in. Well, it was her turn; she was up in the rotation. Everybody knew\u2014if it was a girl coming in, it would be Josephine; if it was a boy coming in, his name was Joseph\u2014and I came in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, how did all of this come up? Two years before, I was speaking at the homecoming; I was at the homecoming. We had done an article\u2014Cesar and I\u2014a Pulitzer Prize writer in Chicago wrote an article about: \u201cArkansas State Official Finds the Guy Who Finds Him as He Is on His Search for His Family.\u201d They do this big article for a Sunday newspaper. Sister Mary\u2014well, she\u2019s not a sister anymore\u2014she <em>was<\/em> Sister Mary Jo. She is now married; and she is in the kitchen, making coffee for her husband. She is reading the newspaper, and she stops. She says, \u201cThis is my baby!\u201d [Laughter] Again, this is my\u2014\u201cI named this kid!\u201d\u2014that was it. She was sharing this with her husband; her husband has no clue about any of this stuff. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTwo years later, she is at this homecoming, and she\u2019s like, \u201cThat\u2019s the one that was in the paper; that\u2019s my kid!\u201d She tells the story. This was less than probably seven years ago, at one of the homecomings, that I found out how my name came. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s really\u2014what\u2019s truly amazing\u2014every aspect, the more I hear about your story, is just layer upon layer of <em>remarkable<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That is God\u2019s grace. I can\u2019t\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Totally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEarlier, when you were talking, I\u2019m looking across the studio here\u2014I\u2019m looking at Randall from <em>This Is Us<\/em>; you know?\u2014[Laughter]\u2014it\u2019s like, \u201cHe\u2019s on the same search; he sort of ends up in government.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He was a foundling. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s so similar; then, as Ann said, there is Joseph. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I see Moses, who was left, and God had a plan for his life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> But the truth is, as I listen to it\u2014and you know this better than any of us\u2014God\u2019s hand and God\u2019s providence, even when you are on a front porch in the snow,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014was on your life. The thing is: we can often think He <em>doesn\u2019t<\/em> see us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And He <em>does<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know there is a listener, right now, that doesn\u2019t have the remarkable story you have; but maybe, is struggling with: \u201cDoes God notice?\u201d \u201cDoes God care?\u201d \u201cDoes God see me?\u201d\u2014even in a struggling marriage\u2014or maybe there is a son or a daughter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s good; that\u2019s good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Your story reminds us He <em>really<\/em> <em>does<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Even in the dark of the night, when you think He is far off,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> \u2014He\u2019s right there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014He\u2019s right there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Absolutely right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> He\u2019s got a plan for your life\u2014it\u2019s going to look differently than yours or mine\u2014but He can be trusted, because He has adopted us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. We adopted folks\/we say, \u201cWe\u2019re kind of special, because we are <em>twice<\/em> adopted.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, you are right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right: somebody chose us; and then, when we come to know the Lord\u2014man!\u2014twice!\u2014 we\u2019ve got something. When you get together with a bunch of adopted folks, you kind of start picking that up and hearing to know how He placed us in a place, where we can be loved and have a second chance\/this living thing\u2014but then to know that the eternal life with Him and His Father\u2014it\u2019s kind of special there. There you go! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, here we go. I would like to read this, as we close, from Ephesians 1; it\u2019s such a beautiful statement over your story; it says: \u201cPraise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ for He chose us\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> Yes; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cin Him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in His sight. He predestined us for adoption to son-ship through Jesus Christ in accordance with His pleasure and will.\u201d That\u2019s true, obviously, about you; we\u2019ve just heard it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Joseph:<\/strong> That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s the beauty of being able to lay your head on a pillow tonight and go, \u201cI know that there is a God, who loves me, sees me, and has adopted me; and my life is in His hands, and I can rest in that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The Bible tells us that our times are in His hands. As we\u2019ve heard today from Joseph Wood, there is a first-hand illustration of how God is the one who cares for and superintends the details of our lives. Joseph Wood\u2019s story is told in a series of two books for children: one is called <em>Saving Joey: A True Life Story<\/em>; the other is called <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>: it\u2019s a sequel to his first book. Both of these written for children, books that we have available in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>You can find out how you can order them: go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY for more information. Again, the books are called <em>Saving Joey: A True Life Story<\/em> and then <em>Adopting Joey<\/em>, a sequel to <em>Saving Joey<\/em>. Both of them are available in the <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Order from us online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY,\u201d to order your copy of these books. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I think all of us know, deep down, how important a family is\u2014how fundamental and foundational it is to our development\u2014either for good or for ill. Here, at FamilyLife, our mission\/our goal is to effectively develop <em>godly<\/em> marriages and families. We believe that the world can be changed one home at a time as marriages and families come into alignment with God\u2019s purposes and God\u2019s will. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s a mission you make possible whenever you support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Your donations help extend the reach and the impact of this ministry in the lives of so many couples\/so many families every day. You make all of this possible when you donate. Right now, if you are able to help with a donation, we\u2019d love to send you a copy of Crystal Paine\u2019s new book, <em>Love-Centered Parenting<\/em>, as our way of saying, \u201cThank you for your ongoing support of the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can donate online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or you can call to donate at 1-800-FL-TODAY. When you do, be sure to ask for your copy of the book, <em>Love-Centered Parenting<\/em>. Thank you, in advance, for reaching out and helping to make the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> possible for you, for your neighbors, and for people all around the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you can join us, again, tomorrow when we are going to pick up Joseph Wood\u2019s story: hear about how he got to the orphanage, his time in the orphanage, being adopted, and how he got to where he is today. We\u2019ll hear the rest of that story tomorrow. 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