{"id":307279,"date":"2021-10-30T10:03:49","date_gmt":"2021-10-30T14:03:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/messy-money-2\/"},"modified":"2021-10-30T10:03:49","modified_gmt":"2021-10-30T14:03:49","slug":"messy-money-2","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-this-week\/messy-money-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Messy Money"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hayley DiMarco and Philip Holmes share their journeys of becoming debt-free. 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Do you know what I\u2019m saying?\u00a0I mean, as you are expressing it, this sounds hard; this sounds unpleasant.\u00a0Is there joy, and peace, and hope in what you\u2019re doing?\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hayley:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, there is <em>relief<\/em> in it.\u00a0I think that, for a lot of us, the stuff becomes a burden.\u00a0Even though it\u2019s joyful when you\u2019re shopping for it\u2014you get it home\u2014it becomes a burden. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe relief from that is found in just the letting go.\u00a0Just like, when I\u2019m in an argument with Michael: if I hold onto that, it feels good to get back at him, and to show him how I\u2019m right\u2014because that does feel better\u2014it\u2019s a quicker payoff.\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right; right.\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Hayley:<\/strong>\u00a0The end result will be more suffering, because it will compound\/it just builds more and more animosity between us.\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s the same with stuff.\u00a0The more I buy stuff, the more it builds this feeling of just: \u201cI\u2019m overwhelmed,\u201d \u201cI\u2019m too busy,\u201d \u201cThere\u2019s too much to do,\u201d \u201cThere\u2019s too much going on in my life.\u201d\u00a0And how many women complain about that?\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we could just let go of the stuff\u2014meaning, not just the physical things\u2014but our calendars filled with stuff:\u00a0\u201cI\u2019m too busy to go play with my kids,\u201d\u2014or even\u2014\u201c\u2026to play with my husband.\u00a0I\u2019ve got too much to do.\u201d\u00a0Does that feel like happiness?\u2014it doesn\u2019t. But letting it go, and living a simple life in all those areas, you will find great peace and great freedom.\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> What a <em>great<\/em> reminder from Hayley DiMarco. The stuff that we have can burden us down. I\u2019m in the process right now of moving homes and packing up everything. Boy, can I tell you\u2014that stuff can burden you down. It almost makes me wish that I could pack up just the essentials in my small SUV and just drive away. A great reminder of just the simple. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat reminds me of something that my friend, Hannah Anderson, spoke about in a recent <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> broadcast. She was talking about her book, <em>Humble Roots<\/em>. In that book she shares about Jesus and when Jesus was talking about: \u201cTake My yoke upon you; because My yoke is easy, and My burden is light.\u201d We have a link to that broadcast on our website, FamilyLifeThisWeek.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHey, we need to take a break; but when we come back in two minutes, we\u2019re going to take a look at the <em>different<\/em> side of money. Yes, there is a different side; and it\u2019s a <em>good<\/em> side. We\u2019ll talk about that next.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Radio Station Spot Break]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Welcome back to <em>FamilyLife This Week<\/em>. I'm Michelle Hill. Today, we are talking about <em>money<\/em>. Before the break, we talked about the debt that can weigh us down. Let\u2019s take some time to look at the flip side of debt. Debt can inhibit us in many ways, and one of those ways is our inability to give: to be generous, to give financially to those in need, to give to God\u2019s kingdom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBrad Formsma is a man who loves giving so much that he built a website, a business, and his life around it. He\u2019s the author of <em>I Love Giving: the Transforming Power of a Generous Life<\/em>. He\u2019s also the creator of ILikeGiving.com. Recently, he shared, on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, the DNA of where this giving came from and, also, the important person that modeled it for him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> I grew up with a very generous grandfather. I would spend Saturdays going with him to his bakery. He would make large production runs of baked goods throughout the week; but he had his own little private bakery, where he\u2019d make these 16 loaves of bread. We had five kids in our family; I was the oldest. I was looking for <em>any<\/em> good reason to get out of the house and the chaos. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019d get in the back of my grandpa\u2019s big car, and we\u2019d go to his bakery. We\u2019d bake these loaves of bread, and then we would set out to bring them to other people. It could be a shut-in; but it would also, maybe, be a wealthy person. It would be a kind word; it might be a loaf of bread; it might be a financial gift. I just saw it modeled for me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne day, I was at his office. He pulled up a piece of paper that had all sorts of ministries on it. He looked at me, across the desk, and he said: \u201cBrad, giving is <em>good<\/em>. God would have you give. When you give, He\u2019ll often bring it back\u2014not so you can have a better lifestyle\u2014but that you can keep it moving\/keeping on doing for other people.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Have your children caught the disease of generosity, Brad?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Well, Dennis, I like to say: \u201cWe <em>get<\/em> to give. We don\u2019t <em>got<\/em> to give.\u201d It\u2019s absolutely been part of the legacy that my grandfather left\u2014of modeling generosity\u2014in the caught, not taught, thing. We don\u2019t preach much about it; I don\u2019t think we preach at all. I really try to talk to them about the ideas of Jesus and the power of living those ideas out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo when we read, in Acts 20:35,\u00a0about how Jesus says, \u201cIt\u2019s more blessed to give than receive,\u201d that has just become one of those staple verses in our home of: \u201cThere\u2019s an idea of Jesus; we\u2019re going to live that out.\u201d\u00a0 What we find is that the more we live out His ideas, the more they become true; it just becomes part of our life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs a matter of fact, years ago, a mentor of mine said there are hot leads in the newspaper. What he meant by that is there are opportunities to give and do for other people, even in your local newspaper. Our family got the Sunday morning newspaper; and we saw a Sudanese family, who had their bike stolen. I brought the article in; we read it, as a family, on a Sunday morning.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI asked them, \u201cWhat could we do about this?\u201d My seven-year-old\u2014he looked at us\u2014he held up his precious little blanket; he said, \u201cI\u2019ll give them my blanket.\u201d I said: \u201cOh, Drew, bless you; but they can\u2019t ride your blanket to work; any other ideas?\u201d\u00a0 My oldest son said: \u201cOh, Dad!\u00a0 We have to go get them bikes.\u201d I said: \u201cYou\u2019re right!\u00a0 We have to go get them bikes.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe brought them into this experience, where we went\u2014and we put the whole day on hold for what we were going to do\u2014because we really felt like the Lord gave us an assignment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0You didn\u2019t know this family; there was an article in the newspaper about them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong>\u00a0Article in the newspaper\u2014needle in a haystack\u2014the only indicator I had, calling into this mega-church that had sponsored them, was a little picture in the newspaper. They wouldn\u2019t tell me where they lived. I said, \u201cWell, it looks like it\u2019s in this part of town.\u201d\u00a0 The guy said: \u201cYou\u2019re right; it\u2019s actually down on that end.\u201d I said, \u201cWell, that\u2019s enough for us to go by.\u201d I just had a strong sense we were supposed to make this happen that day; they needed to go to work the next.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0You\u2019re talking about a family that truly needed transportation to be able to get to and from their home to work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s right. That afternoon, we had big plans, as a family. We were going to go to a fun water park and do some really neat things. We decided, as a family: \u201cWe\u2019re going to punt on that. We have to push \u2018pause\u2019 on the water park.\u201d That afternoon, we were able to come into connection with this family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong>How did you come into connection with them? First of all, you went to the bike store and bought bikes; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong>\u00a0Bob, we went to Costco<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2014loaded up the minivan with two bikes\u2014and set out on this adventure to find them; because we had a picture, out of the newspaper, that had a little hose reel on the side of the house. Because the person at the church had given me a general idea of where they lived, I said, \u201cThat\u2019s enough for us to go on.\u201d We\u2019re driving up and down these streets; we realized: \u201cOh no!\u00a0 All these houses look the same.\u201d\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we went back to that newspaper clipping. There\u2019s that green hose reel, where Samson and Hussein, hopefully, live. We\u2019re knocking on the door; and they said, \u201cThey\u2019re not here.\u201d I\u2019m thinking: \u201cWhere could they have gone? They don\u2019t have any transportation!\u201d We drove around and got ice cream. An hour went by, and two hours, and three hours\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0So you found the house; they just weren\u2019t there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong>\u00a0They weren\u2019t there. We drove around this part of town for four hours; because Laura said to me: \u201cWe got these bikes. What are we going to do?\u201d Now keep in mind, she\u2019s hearing this tape, playing in her head: \u201cWell, there are going to be <em>hundreds<\/em> of bikes in their front yard. Certainly, with 900,000 newspapers being circulated, somebody else is going to hit this need.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYet, when we came around the corner\u2014and they were walking into their home; they had been dropped off by another family\u2014we went to their door, and they came out. We had <em>no<\/em> way to communicate, other than just to point to the bike.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0\u2014meaning they didn\u2019t speak English?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong>\u00a0They didn\u2019t speak English. There was no way to communicate. We just said, \u201cWe want to bless you.\u201d All the dad could say is: \u201cI like bike! I like bike!\u201d He\u2019s riding this bike down the street. My boys are clapping, and his son was clapping. The tags are still on it. We just said: \u201cHave a good day. See you later.\u201d They just waved to us, and off we went.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe next morning\u2014on my way to school, dropping off my son\u2014he said to me, \u201cDad, that was <em>way<\/em> better than us ever going to that fun water park.\u201d I thought: \u201cIt\u2019s sticking. He\u2019s realizing that it\u2019s better to give than receive.\u201d\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, the Lord is so clear in Timothy\u2014He tells us we can enjoy these things; He wants us to enjoy His blessings\u2014but when He gives us these assignments, and we get to be a part of these. As a matter of fact, if you go to ILikeGiving.com, you can watch \u201cI Like Bike.\u201d We spend four-and-a-half minutes re-enacting, as a family, for the very purpose of inspiring people to go out and create their own story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> I was one of the people that was inspired by Brad Formsma. I watched that video, \u201cI Like Bike.\u201d It is <em>so<\/em> incredible, such a great impactful story. We have a link to the video, \u201cI Like Bike,\u201d on our website; that\u2019s FamilyLifeThisWeek.com. I encourage you to spend a few minutes on the I Like Giving website. I can guarantee it\u2019s going to inspire you\/inspire you to make the world a better place by sharing the things that you have right around your house. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we get out of debt, it empowers us to give more, and to give generously, and to help others\u2014as I said before\u2014to change the kingdom for the better and to be made joyful in the process. Just something to think about this weekend before you click on that Amazon order. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tComing up next week, we\u2019ll all take a class on communication between men and women. It\u2019ll be somewhat eye opening; and it\u2019ll be somewhat, \u201cWell, duh\u2026\u201d Jim and Carol Shores will help us better understand our spouse; I hope you can join us for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHey, thanks for listening! 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Do you know what I\u2019m saying?\u00a0I mean, as you are expressing it, this sounds hard; this sounds unpleasant.\u00a0Is there joy, and peace, and hope in what you\u2019re doing?\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hayley:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, there is <em>relief<\/em> in it.\u00a0I think that, for a lot of us, the stuff becomes a burden.\u00a0Even though it\u2019s joyful when you\u2019re shopping for it\u2014you get it home\u2014it becomes a burden. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe relief from that is found in just the letting go.\u00a0Just like, when I\u2019m in an argument with Michael: if I hold onto that, it feels good to get back at him, and to show him how I\u2019m right\u2014because that does feel better\u2014it\u2019s a quicker payoff.\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right; right.\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Hayley:<\/strong>\u00a0The end result will be more suffering, because it will compound\/it just builds more and more animosity between us.\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s the same with stuff.\u00a0The more I buy stuff, the more it builds this feeling of just: \u201cI\u2019m overwhelmed,\u201d \u201cI\u2019m too busy,\u201d \u201cThere\u2019s too much to do,\u201d \u201cThere\u2019s too much going on in my life.\u201d\u00a0And how many women complain about that?\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we could just let go of the stuff\u2014meaning, not just the physical things\u2014but our calendars filled with stuff:\u00a0\u201cI\u2019m too busy to go play with my kids,\u201d\u2014or even\u2014\u201c\u2026to play with my husband.\u00a0I\u2019ve got too much to do.\u201d\u00a0Does that feel like happiness?\u2014it doesn\u2019t. 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In that book she shares about Jesus and when Jesus was talking about: \u201cTake My yoke upon you; because My yoke is easy, and My burden is light.\u201d We have a link to that broadcast on our website, FamilyLifeThisWeek.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHey, we need to take a break; but when we come back in two minutes, we\u2019re going to take a look at the <em>different<\/em> side of money. Yes, there is a different side; and it\u2019s a <em>good<\/em> side. We\u2019ll talk about that next.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Radio Station Spot Break]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Welcome back to <em>FamilyLife This Week<\/em>. I'm Michelle Hill. Today, we are talking about <em>money<\/em>. Before the break, we talked about the debt that can weigh us down. Let\u2019s take some time to look at the flip side of debt. Debt can inhibit us in many ways, and one of those ways is our inability to give: to be generous, to give financially to those in need, to give to God\u2019s kingdom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBrad Formsma is a man who loves giving so much that he built a website, a business, and his life around it. He\u2019s the author of <em>I Love Giving: the Transforming Power of a Generous Life<\/em>. He\u2019s also the creator of ILikeGiving.com. Recently, he shared, on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, the DNA of where this giving came from and, also, the important person that modeled it for him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> I grew up with a very generous grandfather. I would spend Saturdays going with him to his bakery. He would make large production runs of baked goods throughout the week; but he had his own little private bakery, where he\u2019d make these 16 loaves of bread. We had five kids in our family; I was the oldest. I was looking for <em>any<\/em> good reason to get out of the house and the chaos. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019d get in the back of my grandpa\u2019s big car, and we\u2019d go to his bakery. We\u2019d bake these loaves of bread, and then we would set out to bring them to other people. It could be a shut-in; but it would also, maybe, be a wealthy person. It would be a kind word; it might be a loaf of bread; it might be a financial gift. I just saw it modeled for me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne day, I was at his office. He pulled up a piece of paper that had all sorts of ministries on it. He looked at me, across the desk, and he said: \u201cBrad, giving is <em>good<\/em>. God would have you give. When you give, He\u2019ll often bring it back\u2014not so you can have a better lifestyle\u2014but that you can keep it moving\/keeping on doing for other people.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Have your children caught the disease of generosity, Brad?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong> Well, Dennis, I like to say: \u201cWe <em>get<\/em> to give. We don\u2019t <em>got<\/em> to give.\u201d It\u2019s absolutely been part of the legacy that my grandfather left\u2014of modeling generosity\u2014in the caught, not taught, thing. We don\u2019t preach much about it; I don\u2019t think we preach at all. I really try to talk to them about the ideas of Jesus and the power of living those ideas out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo when we read, in Acts 20:35,\u00a0about how Jesus says, \u201cIt\u2019s more blessed to give than receive,\u201d that has just become one of those staple verses in our home of: \u201cThere\u2019s an idea of Jesus; we\u2019re going to live that out.\u201d\u00a0 What we find is that the more we live out His ideas, the more they become true; it just becomes part of our life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs a matter of fact, years ago, a mentor of mine said there are hot leads in the newspaper. What he meant by that is there are opportunities to give and do for other people, even in your local newspaper. Our family got the Sunday morning newspaper; and we saw a Sudanese family, who had their bike stolen. I brought the article in; we read it, as a family, on a Sunday morning.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI asked them, \u201cWhat could we do about this?\u201d My seven-year-old\u2014he looked at us\u2014he held up his precious little blanket; he said, \u201cI\u2019ll give them my blanket.\u201d I said: \u201cOh, Drew, bless you; but they can\u2019t ride your blanket to work; any other ideas?\u201d\u00a0 My oldest son said: \u201cOh, Dad!\u00a0 We have to go get them bikes.\u201d I said: \u201cYou\u2019re right!\u00a0 We have to go get them bikes.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe brought them into this experience, where we went\u2014and we put the whole day on hold for what we were going to do\u2014because we really felt like the Lord gave us an assignment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0You didn\u2019t know this family; there was an article in the newspaper about them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong>\u00a0Article in the newspaper\u2014needle in a haystack\u2014the only indicator I had, calling into this mega-church that had sponsored them, was a little picture in the newspaper. They wouldn\u2019t tell me where they lived. I said, \u201cWell, it looks like it\u2019s in this part of town.\u201d\u00a0 The guy said: \u201cYou\u2019re right; it\u2019s actually down on that end.\u201d I said, \u201cWell, that\u2019s enough for us to go by.\u201d I just had a strong sense we were supposed to make this happen that day; they needed to go to work the next.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0You\u2019re talking about a family that truly needed transportation to be able to get to and from their home to work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s right. That afternoon, we had big plans, as a family. We were going to go to a fun water park and do some really neat things. We decided, as a family: \u201cWe\u2019re going to punt on that. We have to push \u2018pause\u2019 on the water park.\u201d That afternoon, we were able to come into connection with this family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong>How did you come into connection with them? First of all, you went to the bike store and bought bikes; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong>\u00a0Bob, we went to Costco<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2014loaded up the minivan with two bikes\u2014and set out on this adventure to find them; because we had a picture, out of the newspaper, that had a little hose reel on the side of the house. Because the person at the church had given me a general idea of where they lived, I said, \u201cThat\u2019s enough for us to go on.\u201d We\u2019re driving up and down these streets; we realized: \u201cOh no!\u00a0 All these houses look the same.\u201d\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we went back to that newspaper clipping. There\u2019s that green hose reel, where Samson and Hussein, hopefully, live. We\u2019re knocking on the door; and they said, \u201cThey\u2019re not here.\u201d I\u2019m thinking: \u201cWhere could they have gone? They don\u2019t have any transportation!\u201d We drove around and got ice cream. An hour went by, and two hours, and three hours\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0So you found the house; they just weren\u2019t there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong>\u00a0They weren\u2019t there. We drove around this part of town for four hours; because Laura said to me: \u201cWe got these bikes. What are we going to do?\u201d Now keep in mind, she\u2019s hearing this tape, playing in her head: \u201cWell, there are going to be <em>hundreds<\/em> of bikes in their front yard. Certainly, with 900,000 newspapers being circulated, somebody else is going to hit this need.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYet, when we came around the corner\u2014and they were walking into their home; they had been dropped off by another family\u2014we went to their door, and they came out. We had <em>no<\/em> way to communicate, other than just to point to the bike.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0\u2014meaning they didn\u2019t speak English?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Brad:<\/strong>\u00a0They didn\u2019t speak English. There was no way to communicate. We just said, \u201cWe want to bless you.\u201d All the dad could say is: \u201cI like bike! I like bike!\u201d He\u2019s riding this bike down the street. My boys are clapping, and his son was clapping. The tags are still on it. We just said: \u201cHave a good day. See you later.\u201d They just waved to us, and off we went.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe next morning\u2014on my way to school, dropping off my son\u2014he said to me, \u201cDad, that was <em>way<\/em> better than us ever going to that fun water park.\u201d I thought: \u201cIt\u2019s sticking. He\u2019s realizing that it\u2019s better to give than receive.\u201d\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, the Lord is so clear in Timothy\u2014He tells us we can enjoy these things; He wants us to enjoy His blessings\u2014but when He gives us these assignments, and we get to be a part of these. As a matter of fact, if you go to ILikeGiving.com, you can watch \u201cI Like Bike.\u201d We spend four-and-a-half minutes re-enacting, as a family, for the very purpose of inspiring people to go out and create their own story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> I was one of the people that was inspired by Brad Formsma. I watched that video, \u201cI Like Bike.\u201d It is <em>so<\/em> incredible, such a great impactful story. We have a link to the video, \u201cI Like Bike,\u201d on our website; that\u2019s FamilyLifeThisWeek.com. I encourage you to spend a few minutes on the I Like Giving website. I can guarantee it\u2019s going to inspire you\/inspire you to make the world a better place by sharing the things that you have right around your house. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we get out of debt, it empowers us to give more, and to give generously, and to help others\u2014as I said before\u2014to change the kingdom for the better and to be made joyful in the process. Just something to think about this weekend before you click on that Amazon order. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tComing up next week, we\u2019ll all take a class on communication between men and women. It\u2019ll be somewhat eye opening; and it\u2019ll be somewhat, \u201cWell, duh\u2026\u201d Jim and Carol Shores will help us better understand our spouse; I hope you can join us for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHey, thanks for listening! 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