{"id":307251,"date":"2021-10-05T07:00:07","date_gmt":"2021-10-05T11:00:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/spiritual-life-skills-for-kids-what-am-i-aiming-for\/"},"modified":"2021-10-05T07:00:07","modified_gmt":"2021-10-05T11:00:07","slug":"spiritual-life-skills-for-kids-what-am-i-aiming-for","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/spiritual-life-skills-for-kids-what-am-i-aiming-for\/","title":{"rendered":"Spiritual Life Skills For Kids: What Am I Aiming For?"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As Christians, we want our kids to love and follow Jesus. 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Oh, I don\u2019t have to take it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> No, I\u2019m going to have you take it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> But it\u2019s like, if you had a multiple-choice option\u2014I\u2019m not saying the others wouldn\u2019t be true\u2014but if you had to pick only one of these for your kids\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014when they are adults\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014which one of these\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> So listeners, listen up! Get ready.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; so if you\u2019re thinking about what you hope your kids will be when they\u2019re adults\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014would you pick number 1 to be: \u201cThey will never have any serious financial problems,\u201d or\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u20142.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u20142: \u201cThey will have good health and long life,\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s a good one too; okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014or 3: \u201cThey\u2019ll have a happy marriage,\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s a really good one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014or 4: \u201cThey will walk with Jesus and be men and women of godly character,\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oooh.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014or <em>5<\/em>: \u201cThey will play in the NFL\u201d? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Eh-uh! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Ann Wilson.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m Dave Wilson; and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I added that one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Of course, you did!! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor <em>me<\/em>, it would definitely be 4.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I <em>know! <\/em>Every Christian parent\u2019s going to pick number 4.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know, though, Dave.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Is that true?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Because we want <em>all<\/em> of those things. <em>None<\/em> of those things are necessarily bad.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> No!\u2014none of them are bad.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You want that for your kids, honestly. I don\u2019t know about the NFL thing. [Laughter] But you don\u2019t want your kids to have financial problems; and you want them to have good health and long lives; and you definitely want them to have a happy marriage; <em>but<\/em> apart from Jesus, those things can seem empty and hard to attain.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; as a Christ-follower, you are probably going to pick number 4: \u201cI want my kids to walk with God as adult men and women.\u201d But here\u2019s the question: \u201cHow do we get them there?\u201d Because that\u2019s\u2014you know, it\u2019s like: \u201cThere\u2019s the goal; there\u2019s the finish line. What\u2019s the strategy? What\u2019s the road map to get there?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo we need help. We\u2019ve got\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We have Janel Breitenstein with us, again, today. Janel, welcome back to <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Thanks so much. It\u2019s a delight!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019ve written a book called <em>Permanent Markers<\/em>, and we\u2019ve already been talking about this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe really love having you with us. You\u2019re a mom; you\u2019re a wife. You used to live in Africa. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Yes; five years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What were you doing?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> We were with Engineering Ministries, International, but partner with organizations that are helping the poor and preaching the gospel. It\u2019s design, engineering, and construction work; so that means hospitals, schools, water projects. And personally, I was teaching refugees; so really fulfilling work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Wow! What a life!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And now, you\u2019re back in the United States.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re living in Colorado. What are you doing now?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> I\u2019m a freelance writer and an author. I actually do a lot of work for FamilyLife; I\u2019m one of their normal contributors. This\u2014<em>Permanent Markers<\/em>\u2014is my first book. The subtitle is <em>Spiritual Life Skills to Write on Your Kids\u2019 Hearts.<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So there\u2019s the question: \u201cHow do you write spiritual life skills on your children\u2019s hearts?\u201d You\u2019re in the middle of it now. Your oldest is\u2014what?\u201417? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So how are you doing it?\u2014perfectly, I\u2019m sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Oh, yes; flawlessly, I\u2019m sure. It\u2019s a good thing <em>he\u2019s<\/em> not sitting there behind the Plexiglas. I really think it does depend on the kid, and on their season of life, and everything. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd by the way, I just want to circle back here; because I looked this up specifically for Dave before I came here. Have you ever heard of the name Jim Marshall, who played for the Minnesota Vikings?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, I have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> So he was, in 1964\u2014I think he\u2019s the only person to do this in NFL history\u2014he ran 66 yards the wrong way\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, he did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> \u2014for the 49ers. I had no idea; but I was like, \u201cI think I need a football analogy for Dave.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You <em>don\u2019t<\/em> have to do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> In your book, you use soccer with your kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> I do; I do! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the thing is\u2014a lot of times\u2014yes, I had my son be <em>extremely proud<\/em> of a goal he got in the goal for the other team. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> The point is what?\u2014you know, you\u2019re aiming for the wrong thing?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> I think, sometimes, we don\u2019t <em>know<\/em> that we\u2019re aiming for the wrong thing; because we\u2019re aiming for everything except number 4\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, so true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> \u2014you know? Or number 4 <em>plus <\/em>everything else. And the honest truth is: \u201cThere are a lot of things that can pollute number 4.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What does that mean?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> There are a lot of things we add on to our personal version of the gospel\u2014whether it is achievement\/\u201dWhat I do\u201d; or what others think of me; or what I have, whether it is security, or control, or cash, or education\u2014and if we are adding <em>anything<\/em> to that, the Bible\u2019s pretty explicit that that\u2019s a false gospel. At our core, what gives us our worth and our value has to be Jesus Christ and the work He\u2019s already done for us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You\u2019re getting into identity\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> I am!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014which, in your book, you talk about that, as a parent, trying to help your son or daughter understand their identity\u2014so walk us through that a little bit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Sure; I\u2019ll start with a serious example, and then go to a funnier one. Yesterday, we signed a bunch of papers for my son to take the first step in being active duty for the Marines. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Whoa!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> So my momma\u2019s heart is involved in that quite a bit right now, just thinking through what God might have for the warrior He\u2019s created in my family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re probably proud and scared. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Scared; yes! And extremely proud. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was interesting, while we were sitting in that recruiting office, I heard one of the other officers say that someone was working out in the back. They said, \u201cHe\u2019s making himself better.\u201d When we were in the car afterward, I said, \u201cBaden, I\u2019m going to have a mom moment here. You\u2019re just going to have to excuse me, because I\u2019m going to get spiritual about this. When he said that, I want you to know something\u2014you\u2019re going to work really hard, and you\u2019re going to improve in a lot of ways in the next several years\u2014I\u2019m going to be exceedingly proud of you; but I want to let you know: \u2018None of those things will make you more worthy in my eyes or in God\u2019s. If you get the idea that you are actually making yourself \u201cbetter,\u201d and more worthy or more valuable, you will be chasing the wind.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Way to go, mom!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Well, I don\u2019t know if he rolled his eyes or not. [Laughter] I don\u2019t know; sometimes, I feel like my kids\u2019 eyes might just pop out into my perpetually empty fridge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, I\u2019ll tell you this\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That was a permanent marker right there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> I hope so. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, I was going to say\u2014I know what Ann\u2019s thinking\u2014if he rolled his eyes\u2014which I doubt he did, but even if he did\u2014he will <em>never<\/em> forget that moment.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014never.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> I really hope so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Someday\/someday\u2014maybe five\/ten years; who knows?\u2014where maybe the wind is\u2014I\u2019m telling you; am I right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes, God will use it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s why I say, \u201cWay to go!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> I sure hope so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It <em>marked<\/em> him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> I take a lot of comfort in the idea that God\u2019s Word, when you speak it to our kids\u2014whether directly in Scripture or just His principles\u2014that it doesn\u2019t return void.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> And that even faith as small as a mustard seed makes huge trees in our kids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> If you\u2019re a mom or dad listening, do what Janel did. Don\u2019t miss those moments to speak truth.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I can tell by the way you said it, it wasn\u2019t \u201cin your face\u201d; but it was truth, like, \u201cThis moment\u2019s going to be gone in five minutes\u201d; you know? You\u2019re going to blink; and <em>he\u2019s<\/em> going to be gone, and you\u2019ve missed those opportunities. There may be a mom or dad, listening right now, that today is the day you get a moment like that; don\u2019t miss it!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And Janel, I want you to go back; because we were off-air when you talked about this son being a warrior and his identity\u2014and how that wasn\u2019t easy for you to receive\u2014having a warrior; what does that mean?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> That\u2019s a great question. I mentioned that part of one of the battles I\u2019ve had to fight in myself, as a parent, is to not raise kids in my own image\u2014and raise the kids <em>I <\/em>wanted to have; the kids I thought I deserved; and the kids I thought, \u201cGod must want me to have, because this is what I value,\u201d\u2014the reality is He\u2019s made them in <em>His<\/em> image, as His workmanship\/His poem\u2014it\u2019s what we hear in the Greek of Ephesians 2:10. If I try to rewrite that, woe be unto me, as a parent, shaping them to look like <em>me<\/em> instead of the person He\u2019s created them to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI am a helper, and I am an achiever; and I have <em>no<\/em> kids who are wired like me. I have none of them that are people-pleasers. [Laughter] None that want to do things because they <em>should. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy oldest is a warrior. I have no military background in my family. He\u2019s a warrior, not just in the military way, but all in personality. He fights for God\u2019s kingdom; sometimes, for his own agenda. God created him as a warrior. I felt like, at some point\/maybe just a year ago, I was really struggling with this, and the idea that he wanted to be in the military.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we had gone to Africa to help, I felt like God was putting His hand on my shoulder and saying\u2014not audibly, just through His Holy Spirit\u2014\u201cAre you okay if I made your son a warrior? David was a warrior. He was a man after My own heart.\u201d And it was interesting; because when I heard my son talking to the recruiter, he said, \u201cMy parents went to Africa, and they helped people; and this is my way to help people. He\u2019s talked about maybe, after his military career, going with IJM\u2014International Justice Mission\u2014helping people in trafficking and things like that. He\u2019s been the one to stand up for girls in his class, who he feels are possibly in abusive situations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf I stepped in and put <em>my <\/em>personality over that, what a <em>tragedy<\/em> for this world to not get God\u2019s image in <em>him<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> What about you? I heard that you might have a son, who\u2019s a warrior, too, Ann?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> The first time I heard this son preach, Dave was with me\u2014we were sitting beside each other\u2014he was preaching at our church.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> But I remember: \u201cHe\u2019s strong!\u201d\u2014like, \u201cHe\u2019s a preacher!\u201d And he\u2019s <em>crying<\/em>, because he\u2019s passionate. And he\u2019s <em>winsome<\/em>, but he\u2019s funny. I sat there, <em>crying<\/em>, because I said to the Lord, \u201cOh, I see it now!\u201d\u2014[Laughter]\u2014like\u2014\u201cThis is <em>amazing<\/em>!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It was all the things that were frustrating; you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And we don\u2019t always see that [when they\u2019re young]. I think, as moms and dads, to be patient\u2014to continue to go back to the Lord to surrender our kids\u2014\u201cLord, give me wisdom to know how to fan the flame in a way that brings You glory and I\u2019m not going crazy.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> When my youngest son was 18 months old, he would drive me a little bananas. I literally remember being slumped against the wall, thinking, \u201cI have birthed the Tasmanian Devil.\u201d [Laughter] He was just the kind of kid who: I would be in the bathroom, and he would tear open a drink mix and sprinkle it all over like fairy dust; or he would be the kid I would find on top of the table, just when he was walking, trying to touch the chandelier; every day, he would unload my appliance cupboard, and there would be appliances all over the floor twice a day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI told this to the doctor at his well-child checkup, hoping she would empathize with my frustration. And she said, in this all-too-perky manner, \u201cOh, it sounds like he\u2019s mechanical.\u201d And I could have just killed her with my eyes. [Laughter] But the reality is, at some point\u2014actually, it was that same day, when I was slumped against the wall, I felt like God was asking me, \u201cJanel, what if I need him to be this way to cross a jungle to an unreached people group? What if I need him to be this way to stand up for the unborn in a courtroom? What if I need him to be this way to be an inner-city school teacher? Can you just put brakes on it, and can you watch Me lead?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s hard when you have a kid who\u2019s so <em>different <\/em>from you! You\u2019re the quiet one, and they\u2019re the extrovert, or whatever. Learning to, like a marriage, dovetail with your kids\u2019 strengths and weaknesses.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s beautiful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You know, one of the things you do a chapter on is prayer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Talk about that, as a parent, and raising, you know, kingdom-minded, gospel-centered kids that, hopefully, as we\u2019ve been talking about all day, become adults that are living out the gospel. Where does prayer fit in?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Well, you guys raised three boys; so I think part of the problem\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You\u2019re not allowed to turn it back on us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Oh, watch me! [Laughter] But I imagine the idea is like, \u201cCan we just get them to stop yelling up the stairs?\u201d\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> \u2014you know? To even mention the word, \u201cprayer,\u201d and have them hear it without shouting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> I think part of what this shift needed to be in <em>my<\/em> heart with prayer is to shift my kids to wanting to be with God rather than just ask Him for things. So that the goal in prayer is not what God does for us, but the goal is God. It\u2019s about creating a prayer lifestyle in the ways we pray with kids that, again, God is our \u201cget to,\u201d not our\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201chave to.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Yes!\u2014and \u201cHe is what He gives me\u201d; so we raise these consumer kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think we can do this in really practical ways. Say that you\u2019ve got an artistic kid: I think you can make a prayer chain calendar, that they make themselves, for different things that they want to pray for; and we get excited about praying for that thing. You can make a prayer collage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019ve got a kid, who has real kinesthetic love language of touch, light a candle when you pray at night; so it smells good, and they associate it with smell. Rub a great-smelling lotion on their back. When you\u2019re praying, have your arms around them and tousle their hair. Make these moments, where kids are engaging, and prayer is actually a little bit fun and nurturing; they associate it with these positive memories, and creative memories, and times that it\u2019s fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s even, I think, an idea in the book where you can make a prayer labyrinth on your driveway with sidewalk chalk. You can kind of walk through it, and pray for different things, and teach your kids to be a little more meditative and create some space for God in their lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re doing these ways that you\u2019re bringing all these different senses in\u2014you know, ways that our children are wired\u2014into praying, and you\u2019re making it fun. What are you praying about?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> That\u2019s a <em>great<\/em> question. I do think, sometimes, we\u2019re teaching them they can come to God with anything. For example, I bought a scratch-off map that we hung on my son\u2019s wall. Every time we prayed for a country on our Operation World app, we\u2019d scratch off the country; and he\u2019d get excited about praying for another country. Or we made a prayer deck of different things we wanted to pray for\u2014and he\u2019d\u2014\u201cPick a card, any card.\u201d I think, sometimes, we\u2019re praying, asking God for things; we want to teach our kids supplication. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut we\u2019re also teaching them things like, \u201cGod, this is who You are to me this week, and I\u2019m just really thankful.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014so His attributes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Yes! Yes, we\u2019re teaching them to engage with God in their own lives\u2014and bring their whole selves\u2014their inner selves. The Psalmist talks about: \u201cMy soul blesses the Lord.\u201d So how can we talk about our kid\u2019s bad day and bring that into prayer?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJohn Calvin once said that the whole of spirituality is both in knowing God and knowing ourselves: \u201cSo how can we bring our kids\u2019 knowledge of themselves and what\u2019s going on in their lives into prayer?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s really good. I think we model that; we teach our kids how to pray by allowing them to see <em>us<\/em> pray. I know that I\u2019ve prayed in front of my kids all the time, because it\u2019s discipleship; it\u2019s mentoring\u2014and so when we\u2019re in the car, or when we\u2019re shopping, or I see someone along the side of the road\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014I\u2019m praying for them. I\u2019m getting them to notice, and they hear my heart of joy. They hear me praying when I\u2019m <em>sad<\/em> and crying, when we\u2019ve lost someone. They hear me praying when I\u2019m frustrated, and I\u2019m venting to God my frustration. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s beautiful, because they see it\u2019s a relationship\u2014it\u2019s not like [droning voice], \u201cOh, Lord, bless my mom and my dad, and my aunt, and my uncle,\u201d\u2014it\u2019s a <em>relationship<\/em>, that you\u2019re talking to Him about <em>everything<\/em>. And you\u2019re also <em>asking<\/em> Him for things as well, but that relationship is <em>key<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know, one time, one of our kids was <em>really<\/em> mad. He was mad at God; he was mad at the situation he was going through. He felt like he was mad at God for allowing him to go through it. I said, \u201cYou need to get on your bike;\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cgo on a <em>long <\/em>ride, and you tell God everything you\u2019re feeling. Lay it out! Be really honest and truthful.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe was <em>so<\/em> mad; he was pushing the bike over. He had reason\u2014I can\u2019t even remember what it was about\u2014maybe, it was a break-up; it was something. But he got on his bike, and he came back; and he was <em>drenched<\/em> in sweat. I said, \u201cSo did you talk to God?\u201d He goes, \u201cYes, I told Him <em>everything<\/em>.\u201d I said, \u201cHow do you feel?\u201d And he goes, \u201c<em>Better<\/em>; better.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we can teach our kids from going [to] us to God, to giving Him <em>everything<\/em>\u2014man!\u2014those are the places where we win.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Yes, I totally agree! And what a great way to incorporate prayer with the way he\u2019s made as an athletic young man.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Here\u2019s a question: <em>Permanent Markers<\/em>\u2014sitting here listening and watching you, I can see a legacy from your mom and dad. Knowing them, here, at FamilyLife\u2014they are beloved here\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014what did they mark you with, if you could even thank them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> You know, one thing that they both have as part of their DNA, as a couple\u2014because each of us in our own families, we have sort of our own subculture\u2014my parents are generous, not just with their money. I think someone once told me\u2014they were a young person; and they said, \u201cYour parents have been the most generous people I\u2019ve ever met,\u201d\u2014I thought that was strange; because my dad was a farmer at the time. We had <em>very little <\/em>money. I mean, I don\u2019t think I knew it at the time\u2014I didn\u2019t know how much my parents had to stretch\u2014but they were not wealthy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut whatever they had was for God and His people, or for whoever needed it. And I\u2019m not just talking about their possessions. My dad has gifts as a mechanic, so he fixes missionaries\u2019 cars and single mothers\u2019 cars. He has always used that skill; we think he does probably 150 cars a year. My mom has always been the same way, bringing us around to\/in the \u201890s, we made a funeral dinner for someone who had passed away from AIDS, and she brought me along; and we served it together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, they\u2019re chaplains. It\u2019s not just that they\u2019re generous with their services; they\u2019re generous with themselves and their presence. They are present with people, who are suffering, like Jesus was. And it\u2019s that kind of generosity\u2014let me put it this way\u2014when my dad was a farmer, he ended up having all girls, and he had nobody to pass on the family business to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I tell you what! He\u2019s passed on the family business [Laughter] in a way that I hope I can even deign to replicate in my own life, and to my kids, and my grandkids, and my great grandkids: \u201cI hope you\u2019re generous in the name of Jesus.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re doing that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, I was going to say the same thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> As you were speaking, I put down in notes: \u201cYou have given your kids a bigger vision for the world. They\u2019re not living for themselves, but you\u2019ve given them a vision for how they can impact the world for Jesus.\u201d And now that you\u2019ve said that, I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, that\u2019s a legacy thing that\u2019s been passed down to you, and you\u2019re passing it down to your own kids.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, and just sitting with you at lunch, with your parents, and even listening to you, you are all generous with joy. There is a joy that exudes out of you and your parents. That\u2019s generosity\u2014whether it\u2019s money or not\u2014it doesn\u2019t matter. It is just like that is not taught; that\u2019s caught. I don\u2019t know your kids; I just <em>know<\/em> they have it, because that\u2019s part of the DNA of the legacy of you guys.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMan, you talk about permanent markers; you are <em>marked<\/em>; and you are marking others. Thank you for being with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> Gosh, it\u2019s my privilege! I hope that that is how God chooses to bless my parenting. I think there are days in all of our parenting, where we can\u2019t see God\u2019s long-game\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Janel:<\/strong> \u2014and that\u2019s really the game that He\u2019s in\u2014is the game for the kingdom, and not for the immediate. Parenting takes that little bit of faith that can move mountains. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI guess, to the parent, who is out there today, and maybe is in a similar place to me\u2014maybe you\u2019re raising teens or raising that kid [for whom] you just don\u2019t see hope\u2014I think our trust is <em>not<\/em> in the outcome. Our trust is in God\u2019s character, that He is the One who brings good work to completion.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s a good word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Good word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; thanks, Janel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Our most important assignment, as parents, is the spiritual health of our children; that\u2019s where our focus needs to be. Ultimately, the path they choose is their choice to make; that\u2019s in God\u2019s hands. But we have an assignment, as parents, to be marking them, to be shaping them, to be pointing them in the right direction. That\u2019s the focus of Janel Breitenstein\u2019s new book, <em>Permanent Markers: Spiritual Life Skills to Write on Your Kids\u2019 Hearts.<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re making this book available this week to <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>listeners who can help support and advance the ministry of FamilyLife. When you make a donation to this ministry, you\u2019re actually investing in the lives, and marriages, and families of hundreds of thousands of people all around the world, who turn to us for practical biblical help and hope for their marriage and family. Your investment is in their future, their family, their legacy. If you can help support FamilyLife today with a donation, be sure to request a copy of the book, <em>Permanent Markers<\/em>, from Janel Breitenstein; we\u2019re happy to send it to you. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to make an online donation, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to donate over by phone. The number, again, is 1-800-358-6329; 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d Or again, you can donate online at FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhile you\u2019re on our website, be sure to check out information about the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> small group series. This is an eight-part series that we\u2019ve developed to help moms and dads get a handle on our priorities as parents, dealing with issues like discipline; forming identity in your child\u2019s life; helping them build healthy, strong relationships; and pointing them toward the right mission. Find out more about the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> small group series when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we have got the president of FamilyLife, David Robbins, here with us. David, it\u2019s been fun to listen to Janel Breitenstein and hear about her new book today. We think of Janel as one of us; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> Yes, we do consider Janel one of our own. Her parents are on staff with FamilyLife, and actually serve as chaplains to our staff to keep our FamilyLife staff marriages strong and our families strong. Janel and her husband actually served with us at FamilyLife at one time, and she continues to write and contribute a lot. I\u2019m so grateful for her. One of the reasons I\u2019m grateful is because of her honesty, and how raw she is, but how she takes those honest moments she\u2019s walking through and takes them to the Word of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe really reflects what we, at FamilyLife, want <em>every<\/em> parent out there doing: getting into the realness of life. Life can be hard and challenging; but yet, take it to God: experience the gospel in it; see what His Word says and draw from that wisdom. Janel and her family live it honestly, and they\u2019re just a prototype of what we want to see all over the nation and all over the world; because we know the power of a home that is surrendered to Jesus and reflecting Jesus in their corner of the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Our listeners have heard us say many times that our mission, here, at FamilyLife is to effectively develop godly marriages and families. Again, thanks to those of you who make that mission possible. And congratulations to Janel on her new book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, Dave and Ann Wilson have some thoughts on how we best navigate our sons and daughters through the teen years, the often-challenging teen years. We\u2019re going to pick up this conversation about parenting and look at the issues parents of teens are facing as we come back tomorrow. 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