{"id":307210,"date":"2021-08-27T07:00:04","date_gmt":"2021-08-27T11:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/its-never-about-you\/"},"modified":"2021-08-27T07:00:04","modified_gmt":"2021-08-27T11:00:04","slug":"its-never-about-you","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/its-never-about-you\/","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s Never About You"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Former baseball All-Star, Darryl Strawberry, along with his wife Tracy, declare that the most important thing for one&#8217;s true identity is living God&#8217;s plan.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/mp3.familylife.com\/fl2021-08-27.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:33:21","filesize":"30.54M","filesize_raw":"32027642","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2840,2906,2848,2822],"tags":[2872,4299,4679,5213,5294],"podcast_series":[8469],"cwp_profile":[9731],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-307210","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-addiction","category-becoming-a-christian","category-cultural-issues","category-growing-in-your-faith","tag-addiction","tag-faith","tag-salvation","tag-sports","tag-testimony","podcast_series-turn-your-season-around","cwp_profile-darryl-tracy-strawberry","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/307210\/its-never-about-you","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/307210\/its-never-about-you","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"khWjSGmZSR\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/its-never-about-you\/\">It&#8217;s Never About You<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/its-never-about-you\/embed\/#?secret=khWjSGmZSR\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;It&#8217;s Never About You&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"khWjSGmZSR\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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You\u2019ve [Dave] been around locker rooms\u2014and you know what it is like\u2014the ego and the loud talking. That\u2019s a three letter word\u2014EGO\u2014<u>E<\/u>asing <u>G<\/u>od <u>O<\/u>ut. That\u2019s what most guys end up doing; they ease God out of their life, and they play god for themselves. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Ann Wilson.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m Dave Wilson, and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> After 33 seasons of working in the NFL as a chaplain, one of the things we have seen, I think, is that so many players find their identity in their job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s almost like they do not know who they are apart from\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014that identity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We\u2019ve had a chance to work with both the husbands and the wives, and the divorce rate among pro-athletes is about 85 percent. A lot of times, that divorce doesn\u2019t come until <em>after<\/em> they are done playing. I think part of the reason is because, apart from their sport, these guys don\u2019t know who they are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, that\u2019s been their identity their whole life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, we have a couple with us today, who has a title of an incredible sports legacy; but it\u2019s <em>not<\/em> their identity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Darryl Strawberry and his wife Tracy are with us. Many already know Darryl from Major League Baseball. I bet they don\u2019t know Tracy, and she is <em>dynamite<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; so welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Thanks you guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Thanks for having us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, we are glad to have you here. You played 17 years in the League, All-Star games, World Series titles; and you\u2019ve written a book\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014four times. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014four times\u2014written a book called <em>Turn Your Season Around: How God Transforms Your Life<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve got to be honest: the first time I heard that Darryl Strawberry had become a Christian\u2014I was that skeptic\u2014and then when I met you, not just here but in other places, and then had heard your testimony, I\u2019m like, \u201cThis is the real deal! He loves Jesus!\u201d [Laughter] I don\u2019t want to offend you with that, but have you ever heard that before? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> It doesn\u2019t, because a lot of people think that way: \u201cHow could that happen?\u2014from the lifestyle he had, to brokenness of who he was, and what we saw: the headlines, and the stories, and the jail\/the arrest,\u201d\u2014just so many different things. People say, \u201cThere is no way; there is no way. Now, all of a sudden, he\u2019s talking about Jesus.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Of course, a lot of my teammates thought that way, too\/former teammates. They were like, \u201cWell, we\u2019ll see how long this will last.\u201d Well, it\u2019s been about 19 years now, and we\u2019ve still been walking with Jesus. It\u2019s a great walk. It\u2019s not a man\u2019s transformation; it\u2019s God\u2019s transformation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSee, when we experience that in our life for real\u2014and we don\u2019t straddle the fence, and don\u2019t be a hypocrite anymore, and talking about Jesus and just saying His name\u2014and knowing His power, which is far greater than just knowing His name\u2014I think too many professional people have that: \u201cOh, yes, praise God,\u201d \u201cThank God,\u201d \u201cGlory to God\u201d; but they never have that real transformation encounter with Christ. I came to that place, where I had an encounter with Christ for real. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI <em>really<\/em> am <em>so<\/em> grateful that I had the encounter\u2014and just didn\u2019t know His name anymore\u2014because we have the wrong identity, because we built this identity of who we are in what we <em>do<\/em> instead of who we are and the character of who we are. There\u2019s two different places that people go to: what we do has nothing to do with character. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> It\u2019s a big difference in the character of man because the character of a man, when he comes to know God, he starts to shape his life in God\u2019s plan. He becomes a different person: and he walks a different way; he talks a different way; he acts a different way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of the guys that I played with\/they are still waiting for me to come back, Dave. They are still hanging out: \u201cOh, he\u2019ll be back one day.\u201d Well, I think some of them are truly convinced that: \u201cHe\u2019s not coming; he\u2019s gone. He\u2019s <em>really<\/em> serious about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014he is a <em>new<\/em> creation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Praise God; amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> \u2014born of a different spirit: living a different way, and understanding the biblical principles, and living according to that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI always tell them: \u201cIt doesn\u2019t make me better than anyone. I just made a final decision that I was going to follow Jesus: I was going to die to myself; I was going to pick up my cross, and I was going to follow Jesus. That\u2019s what a real believer becomes about when he denies himself. It\u2019s no longer about me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, ego in a man is <em>very<\/em> big. You\u2019ve [Dave] been around locker rooms\u2014and you know what it is like\u2014the ego and the loud talking. That\u2019s a three letter word\u2014EGO\u2014<u>E<\/u>asing <u>G<\/u>od <u>O<\/u>ut. That\u2019s what most guys end up doing; they ease God out of their life, and they play god for themselves. They run raggedy until it\u2019s over and nowhere else to go. Hopefully, it\u2019s not too late that they can look up\u2014just like I was able to before it was too late\u2014what I mean by too late is, when you are dead, you can\u2019t find Him; you know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPeople always say to me, \u201cHow did you find Jesus?\u201d \u201cJesus has never been lost! [Laughter] What do you mean: \u2018How did I find Jesus?\u2019 He\u2019s not lost. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> He\u2019s waiting on you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> \u201cHe\u2019s just waiting for you. He\u2019s waiting for you to come and make a commitment\u2014you to surrender yourself to Him\u2014He has always been waiting for you. He <em>always<\/em> will be waiting for you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHopefully, more guys, who play professional sports, will have that encounter while they are playing sports or after they are done playing sports; but hopefully, they get to that place of having that encounter with Christ so they can identify themselves as the right person. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, talk about, a little bit, the new creation part; because we\u2019ve already talked about: you get to the Bigs; you end up addicted; you\u2019re $3 million in debt; you\u2019re sort of in the gutter. When you said that, I thought, \u201cOh, he\u2019s just talking about\u2026\u201d\u2014no, you\u2019re almost, literally, in the gutter. Tracy and you walk into each other\u2019s lives at a rehab\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> \u2014a convention \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014a rehab convention, where you are both there to try and get your broken lives back together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Tracy, you were at a point, where you were about to lose custody of your kids\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014because of your <em>own<\/em> addiction; but you had given your life to Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You wanted to follow Him and begin anew. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes; I was brand-new saved, not knowing what saved was. I was tough; I was strong, rough around the edges, working out my own walk with Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI came to a crossroads in my own walk with Jesus, thinking, \u201cOkay; well, I got saved. I am no longer doing drugs; I\u2019m not drinking alcohol anymore. Lord, I\u2019m trying to live for You; so surely, I will win the custody case and, for sure, because I\u2019m a good girl now,\u201d\u2014and that doesn\u2019t happen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut this\u2014I want somebody to hear this, because this happens along the way in everyone\u2019s life\u2014and this is where you learn real biblical truth and real biblical faith. This defined my faith\u2014I had a choice to make\u2014\u201cWas I going to walk away from Christ; or was I going to run into Him, with my anger, and my emotion, and everything I didn\u2019t understand?\u201d I made the right choice; I ran <em>into<\/em> Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014even though you didn\u2019t get what you wanted at that time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> \u2014even though I didn\u2019t get what I wanted at the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI share that story because that\u2019s very important, going back to Darryl and me, when he and I met\u2014and letting your faith evolve in the midst of the hardship, in the midst of confusion, in the midst of what doesn\u2019t make sense, in the midst of your pain, in the waiting\u2014when you\u2019re in the waiting, and weary, and you\u2019re hurt, and the expectation is there\u2014you\u2019re crushed over, and over, and over again\u2014what do you do? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDarryl and I were going through this within our relationship, because we were trying to love each other; but we weren\u2019t equipped to love each other. We were wounded. We were making each other pay the price for our wounds; we were making each other pay the price for all the past that we were bringing in. We had a whole lot of story, but we didn\u2019t have the love of the Savior. We had a whole lot of story and a whole lot of past that we could sit around, and talk long hours about, but there was no <em>power<\/em>. There was earthly passion, even lustful passion; but there was not the obedience of Christ in us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Darryl, were you a believer at that point? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> I was. I was lost in the midst of who I was and everything, and I got saved in \u201891 at a crusade. We didn\u2019t know if we were going to be together; we didn\u2019t know what our plans were or anything. We just really had to let go and let God be God in the process; because we didn\u2019t stay together,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> \u2014because I was still the bad boy. She had to let me go, and I had to go on my journey. I had to go on my journey to get well. I went to my sister\u2019s house\u2014Regina\u2014and I stayed with her three kids in a two-bedroom apartment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI got on my journey and got well with God. I went\u2014I stopped using drugs, and stopped having sex; I stopped smoking cigarettes\u2014I stopped doing all these different things, and I just saturated myself in the Word of God for six months. And then God sent me back to marry Tracy, and do it right, and go back and start. We started on a journey with nothing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI always say\u2014people say, \u201cWell, what do you call God\u2019s plan for your life?\u201d\u2014\u201cGod\u2019s plan\u2014He rescued me, He redeemed me, and He restored me\u2014that\u2019s what He does if you walk out His plan, not your plan.\u201d Everybody wants it their way; but me and Tracy finally realized it didn\u2019t have to be our way; it needed to be God\u2019s way. If we put it in God\u2019s hands, and trusted God like we said we trusted God, and understand the Bible like you understand the Bible, now, you can fulfill the life that God wants you to have together as one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere is no <em>I<\/em> in team. People need to understand that for a team to come together; marriage is a team. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> And for a team to come together to win, it cannot be about <em>I<\/em>; it has to be about <em>us<\/em>. We have to walk through these things together, and we walk through that whole process together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m curious\u2014take me back to 1991\u2014you give your life to Christ. Was there any discipleship along the way after that? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> No; that was the part I missed right there. I got radically saved at this crusade, and I accepted Christ. I had this moment\u2014like everybody comes down to the altar; they have this moment\u2014but then what is next? Most people don\u2019t get discipled\u2014they don\u2019t go through the discipleship\u2014you miss that part. That is the most important part for one to receive\u2014is the discipleship part\u2014so he can grow, and he can understand who he is in Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you don\u2019t\u2014I remember I had just signed the biggest contract of my life, $20 million contract\u2014I should have been happy. I\u2019m at this crusade\u2014I\u2019m crying, and I get radically saved\u2014the power of God came on me. Then what happens?\u2014I don\u2019t get discipled\u2014I run into the wall at Dodgers\u2019 Stadium and dislocate my shoulder. I\u2019m out the first half of that season; it was a real struggle, and it was a real battle for me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWithout discipleship\u2014that was a good question\u2014without discipleship, I went running. After I ran into the wall and dislocated my shoulder, I went back to drinking and womanizing; and I went running for another 15 years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s interesting\u2014as you guys talked\u2014you obviously have now been discipled. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You know the Word; you have a solid foundation as you talk. You\u2019ve matured spiritually. Talk to our listeners that haven\u2019t experienced that: \u201cWhat should they do? How do they get discipled?\u201d Talk about how that happened for you guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Discipleship is where the freedom is found; that\u2019s how you experience the newness of who you have become, in an instant, over a lifetime. Get in a Bible-based teaching church; take notes of the sermon that the pastor is preaching\u2014take those notes home, especially the Scripture references, and say, \u201cLord, speak to me,\u201d\u2014start there instead of the confusion of: \u201cWhere do I start in the Bible? What do I do in the Word?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome practical things were: I knew I had to get rid of my old people, places, and things, which is the power of influence\u2014it will take you down every time; it\u2019s a setup of the enemy\u2014you cannot become new by bringing in the old. You just can\u2019t do it. I had to position myself in uncomfortable places\u2014such as meeting with Christian women\u2014putting myself out there, going to church events, going to Christian events, going to places I was not comfortable with at first, and stepping out there and introducing myself, and allowing myself to be taught and mentored. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What do you mean by: \u201cIt was uncomfortable at first\u201d? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Because I was living in the world so strongly. I mean, I was going to the club; and I was confused by: \u201cWhat do you mean you don\u2019t sleep with somebody before you get married to them? How will you know them?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Did you feel like an <em>outsider<\/em>? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> I felt like an outsider; I felt like they were too good for me. I felt like: \u201cThere is no way I can be as good as these Christian women\u201d; or they would judge me; or \u201cThere is no way I could tell my story, because I am just so bad; and I\u2019ve gone down so far. Does God even love women like me?\u201d I had a lot of questions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> But discipleship brought me the truth of those answers, and healed me, and restored me, and empowered me. Discipleship is the walk of faith that the Word of God is poured into you: it\u2019s the avenue; it\u2019s the gateway; it\u2019s the way you experience the newness of who you are. Without doing that, you will never get to experience the richness of Christ that you receive the moment you came to salvation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You know, one of the questions that is still in my mind, as I hear you talk about the growth process through discipleship, which is so critical\u2014and honestly, as a pastor for 30 years\u2014so many in our church <em>never<\/em> take that step. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> That\u2019s horrible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> They really don\u2019t get discipled, and it\u2019s really on <em>us<\/em>\u2014we have to decide to pursue that\u2014God will bring the people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> He will. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We\u2019ve got to pursue it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things that I\u2019ve just got to ask you is about forgiveness\u2014because when you think about your background\u2014and I had a dad, who walked out when I was six, and I struggled for three decades to forgive him, not even realizing, \u201cI\u2019ve got a journey I have to take.\u201d You talk about it in your book. I was\u2014man, when I read what you said\u2014tell me if I\u2019m wrong, but I\u2019m going to read\/you said\u2014\u201cGod didn\u2019t tell me to forgive my father. He told me to ask my father to forgive me.\u201d When I read that, I\u2019m like, \u201cWhat?!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Yes, it was an <em>incredible<\/em> journey that God walked me through after saving me. I remember I was going to preach at a men\u2019s prayer breakfast on a Saturday morning; and God spoke to me on a Friday night. That was in California; He said, \u201cI want you to go down, and I want you to go see your father,\u201d\u2014he is in the hospital, because my brother had told me\u2014He [God] said, \u201cGo see him and ask your father for forgiveness. I want you to ask him to forgive you for keeping him out of your career, your life, the grandkids, and everything.\u201d I was like, \u201cAre you serious, Lord?!\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI called my wife; and I told her, \u201cYou need to pray for me. God is all over me this Friday. I can\u2019t go to sleep, and I\u2019ve got to do this men\u2019s prayer breakfast. He wants me to go forgive my father.\u201d She said, \u201cWell, you need to do exactly what He said.\u201d I did; I woke up that Sunday morning, and I went to the hospital. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI saw him; He said\/I remember God saying, \u201cDon\u2019t say anything about what he did to you,\u201d\u2014we were just having a conversation, me and my brother there, having a conversation. I said, \u201cYou know the Lord has changed my life, and I\u2019m a different person now.\u201d I said, \u201cWould you forgive me for keeping you out of my life and my career?\u201d A tear came down his eye; and he shook his head and said, \u201cYes.\u201d I just lost it! I laid in his lap, and I just lost it! I just laid there. I was weeping so hard and just saying, \u201cI\u2019m so sorry.\u201d I just remember the Lord said, \u201cRaise up.\u201d He says, \u201cNow, lead him in the sinner\u2019s prayer.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> There I was; I said, \u201cWould you like to accept the Lord over your life?\u201d He said, \u201cYes.\u201d I just remember God saying, \u201cHow dare you not forgive him, and I forgave you!\u201d See, we have to understand <em>grace<\/em>. You know, He gave me grace; why wouldn\u2019t I give him grace? Then I just remember God saying to me, \u201cThe forgiveness was not for your father. The forgiveness was for [you].\u201d He said, \u201cYou stayed broken all those years, because you wouldn\u2019t forgive.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just cried; I cried driving home. I was just\/but I just remember, through that whole process, how God\/I told Tracy how God just released me after I did that to my father\u2014you know, asked him to forgive me\u2014He released me; He set me free. I was a <em>totally<\/em> different person. He took me to a whole other level. I thought I was just at this level\u2014\u201cOkay, God, I\u2019m doing your work,\u201d\u2014God was like, \u201cNo, you were doing My will, but you still had some things that I needed to get out of you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> So he passed, knowing Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Yes, he passed six months later; yes, he passed like six months later. He goes on home to be with the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And what about your siblings? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> I ended up leading all of them to the Lord. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m thinking about your mom! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes, the legacy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Yes, because she told me\u2014my mom said, \u201cOh, you\u2019re going to do it,\u201d\u2014she said, \u201cYou\u2019re going to do it. God already spoke to me. You\u2019re going to be the one to do it; everybody is going to come in line.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember my sister, Regina, was dying; and at the age of 51, she had cancer. She was in a hospital in California. I was going to ministry somewhere; and God said, \u201cGet to California.\u201d He said, \u201cI want you to get everybody out of the room, and I want you to go in there. I want you to lead her to Me.\u201d It was <em>the<\/em> hardest thing I had to do; she was my favorite sister. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Really? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Yes; it was the <em>hardest<\/em> thing I had to do. He said, \u201cI want you to go lead her.\u201d He goes, \u201cShe is going to die, but I want you to lead her to Me.\u201d I go in there, and everybody is around. The first thing I said was, \u201cEverybody has got to get out for a minute. I\u2019ve got to talk to Regina.\u201d I said, \u201cRegina, you know the Lord has saved me.\u201d I said [emotion in voice], \u201cAre you ready?\u201d She said, \u201cYes!\u201d She said, \u201cGo ahead and lead me.\u201d It was the hardest thing I had to do, because me and her were like this [gesturing closeness]; you know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> And there I was, leading her. And then Tracy takes her and says\u2014Tracy flies in\u2014she says, \u201cI\u2019m going to take her back home to St. Louis.\u201d They said she couldn\u2019t travel; Tracy said, \u201cI\u2019m <em>taking<\/em> her.\u201d She goes on; she takes her. She takes care of her while I\u2019m on the road, travelling, doing ministry. She passes away at our house in St. Louis. So, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And Tracy, what about your boys? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> My boys are <em>amazing<\/em>. I am restored to all three of my boys; I have an incredible relationship with my kids. God has also, now, used me as the restoration agent to bring them to Him. [Emotion in voice] God is so good that He would put me in the position, from what I took from them, that He would use me as the one who would give it back to them but in a greater way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It is <em>amazing<\/em>; isn\u2019t it? It took me years to understand that He often uses our pain to point us to our purpose. The pain that you\u2014and a lot of it was self-inflicted\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014and a lot of our pain is self-inflicted; even then, we make these horrible choices\u2014God forgives; God restores; God empowers. He says: \u201cThat very valley you walked through\/that darkness is going to be the thing I\u2019m going to use\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cfor your future.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve ever heard the quote, Darryl. When I was trying to forgive my dad, I was reading this forgiveness book by Lewis Smedes; he says, \u201cWhen you forgive someone, you set a prisoner free, only to discover, you are the prisoner.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> So true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I remember, when I read that, I thought I locked my dad up\u2014\u201cYou don\u2019t deserve to be in my life,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m like, \u201cI locked <em>myself<\/em> up.\u201d I couldn\u2019t be free to be the man God called me to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m hearing your story, thinking, \u201cWow!\u201d When you were set free\u2014you said it wasn\u2019t even about your dad; it was about <em>you<\/em>\u2014when you were set free, look at what He did <em>after<\/em> that, and He is still doing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You are free to be used by God in a powerful way. I can\u2019t imagine what your future looks like. Seriously, I think it\u2019s just the <em>beginning<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes, you guys are amazing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014of your impact in ministry in the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Glory to God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Thanks for being with us, you guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Thanks for having us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Thanks for having us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I have to think there may be somebody, who has been listening today, who thinks, \u201cMy situation\u2014the mess I\u2019ve made of my life\u2014I\u2019m beyond God\u2019s ability to help\/to pull me out of the ditch I\u2019m in.\u201d I think what we\u2019ve heard from Darryl and Tracy Strawberry today is that <em>nobody<\/em> is beyond God\u2019s mercy, God\u2019s grace, God\u2019s redemption. God doesn\u2019t just save us so that we will be with Him forever. God saves us so that eternal life can begin for you right now. New life in Christ can begin for you right now. There is help, and there is hope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDarryl talks about that in his book, <em>Turn Your Season Around: How God Transforms Your Life<\/em>. It\u2019s a book we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order your copy from us online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or you can call to order at 1-800-FL-TODAY. Again, the book is called <em>Turn Your Season Around<\/em> by Darryl Strawberry. Order online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, as we get down to the last few days of August, for the last few weeks, we\u2019ve been asking you to prayerfully consider becoming a monthly supporter of FamilyLife, what we call a Legacy Partner. David Robbins, who is the president of FamilyLife, is here with me. David, help our listeners understand how vital and how important Legacy Partners are to the ongoing work of this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> Well, first of all, I just want to say that I am so grateful to be able to meet many Legacy Partners as I travel and do different events. It is such a joy to meet people, who are faithful listeners as time allows and space allows in their life, and also partners to help get the message of the gospel, and the ways of Jesus that can thrive in a home and help families flourish, to get those to as many people as possible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI am just so grateful for you, who are currently Legacy Partners, and give in an ongoing way. It\u2019s that ongoing support that allows us to know what is coming in so that we can plan accordingly and get these great messages around marriage and family to as many people as possible. You really are an engine to help fuel our mission of effectively developing godly families who change the world one home at a time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt is the last week of August, and we would invite you to become a Legacy Partner and be a part of the team that is taking this to homes that may not know the hope of Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And as many of our listeners know, what we\u2019ve been hoping for\/praying for this month is that, in every city where FamilyLife is heard, there might be two families who would step forward and say, \u201cWe want to be part of the team that makes <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> possible in our community.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you would be one of those two\u2014if you would contact us today and say, \u201cI want to join you as a Legacy Partner,\u201d\u2014we\u2019re going to send you some thank-you gifts: a certificate to attend a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaway as our guests\u2014you can pass that along to someone else if you\u2019d like\u2014we\u2019ll send you Dave and Ann Wilson\u2019s new book, <em>No Perfect Parents<\/em>; and exclusive access to messages from Dave and Ann. All of that is our way of saying, \u201cThank you for your partnership with us in the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u201d You can connect with us online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Thanks, in advance, for praying about this and considering joining with us as a Legacy Partner. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this weekend, and I hope you can join us on Monday when we\u2019re going to talk about betrayal, and about broken trust, and how we can rebuild a relationship when that has happened, and how we forgive a person who has betrayed us. Lysa TerKeurst joins us on Monday for that conversation. We hope you can join us as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOn behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Have a great weekend. 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You\u2019ve [Dave] been around locker rooms\u2014and you know what it is like\u2014the ego and the loud talking. That\u2019s a three letter word\u2014EGO\u2014<u>E<\/u>asing <u>G<\/u>od <u>O<\/u>ut. That\u2019s what most guys end up doing; they ease God out of their life, and they play god for themselves. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. 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You played 17 years in the League, All-Star games, World Series titles; and you\u2019ve written a book\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014four times. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014four times\u2014written a book called <em>Turn Your Season Around: How God Transforms Your Life<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve got to be honest: the first time I heard that Darryl Strawberry had become a Christian\u2014I was that skeptic\u2014and then when I met you, not just here but in other places, and then had heard your testimony, I\u2019m like, \u201cThis is the real deal! He loves Jesus!\u201d [Laughter] I don\u2019t want to offend you with that, but have you ever heard that before? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> It doesn\u2019t, because a lot of people think that way: \u201cHow could that happen?\u2014from the lifestyle he had, to brokenness of who he was, and what we saw: the headlines, and the stories, and the jail\/the arrest,\u201d\u2014just so many different things. People say, \u201cThere is no way; there is no way. Now, all of a sudden, he\u2019s talking about Jesus.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Of course, a lot of my teammates thought that way, too\/former teammates. They were like, \u201cWell, we\u2019ll see how long this will last.\u201d Well, it\u2019s been about 19 years now, and we\u2019ve still been walking with Jesus. It\u2019s a great walk. It\u2019s not a man\u2019s transformation; it\u2019s God\u2019s transformation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSee, when we experience that in our life for real\u2014and we don\u2019t straddle the fence, and don\u2019t be a hypocrite anymore, and talking about Jesus and just saying His name\u2014and knowing His power, which is far greater than just knowing His name\u2014I think too many professional people have that: \u201cOh, yes, praise God,\u201d \u201cThank God,\u201d \u201cGlory to God\u201d; but they never have that real transformation encounter with Christ. I came to that place, where I had an encounter with Christ for real. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI <em>really<\/em> am <em>so<\/em> grateful that I had the encounter\u2014and just didn\u2019t know His name anymore\u2014because we have the wrong identity, because we built this identity of who we are in what we <em>do<\/em> instead of who we are and the character of who we are. There\u2019s two different places that people go to: what we do has nothing to do with character. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> It\u2019s a big difference in the character of man because the character of a man, when he comes to know God, he starts to shape his life in God\u2019s plan. He becomes a different person: and he walks a different way; he talks a different way; he acts a different way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of the guys that I played with\/they are still waiting for me to come back, Dave. They are still hanging out: \u201cOh, he\u2019ll be back one day.\u201d Well, I think some of them are truly convinced that: \u201cHe\u2019s not coming; he\u2019s gone. He\u2019s <em>really<\/em> serious about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014he is a <em>new<\/em> creation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Praise God; amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> \u2014born of a different spirit: living a different way, and understanding the biblical principles, and living according to that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI always tell them: \u201cIt doesn\u2019t make me better than anyone. I just made a final decision that I was going to follow Jesus: I was going to die to myself; I was going to pick up my cross, and I was going to follow Jesus. That\u2019s what a real believer becomes about when he denies himself. It\u2019s no longer about me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, ego in a man is <em>very<\/em> big. You\u2019ve [Dave] been around locker rooms\u2014and you know what it is like\u2014the ego and the loud talking. That\u2019s a three letter word\u2014EGO\u2014<u>E<\/u>asing <u>G<\/u>od <u>O<\/u>ut. That\u2019s what most guys end up doing; they ease God out of their life, and they play god for themselves. They run raggedy until it\u2019s over and nowhere else to go. Hopefully, it\u2019s not too late that they can look up\u2014just like I was able to before it was too late\u2014what I mean by too late is, when you are dead, you can\u2019t find Him; you know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPeople always say to me, \u201cHow did you find Jesus?\u201d \u201cJesus has never been lost! [Laughter] What do you mean: \u2018How did I find Jesus?\u2019 He\u2019s not lost. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> He\u2019s waiting on you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> \u201cHe\u2019s just waiting for you. He\u2019s waiting for you to come and make a commitment\u2014you to surrender yourself to Him\u2014He has always been waiting for you. He <em>always<\/em> will be waiting for you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHopefully, more guys, who play professional sports, will have that encounter while they are playing sports or after they are done playing sports; but hopefully, they get to that place of having that encounter with Christ so they can identify themselves as the right person. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, talk about, a little bit, the new creation part; because we\u2019ve already talked about: you get to the Bigs; you end up addicted; you\u2019re $3 million in debt; you\u2019re sort of in the gutter. When you said that, I thought, \u201cOh, he\u2019s just talking about\u2026\u201d\u2014no, you\u2019re almost, literally, in the gutter. Tracy and you walk into each other\u2019s lives at a rehab\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> \u2014a convention \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014a rehab convention, where you are both there to try and get your broken lives back together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Tracy, you were at a point, where you were about to lose custody of your kids\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014because of your <em>own<\/em> addiction; but you had given your life to Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You wanted to follow Him and begin anew. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes; I was brand-new saved, not knowing what saved was. I was tough; I was strong, rough around the edges, working out my own walk with Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI came to a crossroads in my own walk with Jesus, thinking, \u201cOkay; well, I got saved. I am no longer doing drugs; I\u2019m not drinking alcohol anymore. Lord, I\u2019m trying to live for You; so surely, I will win the custody case and, for sure, because I\u2019m a good girl now,\u201d\u2014and that doesn\u2019t happen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut this\u2014I want somebody to hear this, because this happens along the way in everyone\u2019s life\u2014and this is where you learn real biblical truth and real biblical faith. This defined my faith\u2014I had a choice to make\u2014\u201cWas I going to walk away from Christ; or was I going to run into Him, with my anger, and my emotion, and everything I didn\u2019t understand?\u201d I made the right choice; I ran <em>into<\/em> Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014even though you didn\u2019t get what you wanted at that time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> \u2014even though I didn\u2019t get what I wanted at the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI share that story because that\u2019s very important, going back to Darryl and me, when he and I met\u2014and letting your faith evolve in the midst of the hardship, in the midst of confusion, in the midst of what doesn\u2019t make sense, in the midst of your pain, in the waiting\u2014when you\u2019re in the waiting, and weary, and you\u2019re hurt, and the expectation is there\u2014you\u2019re crushed over, and over, and over again\u2014what do you do? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDarryl and I were going through this within our relationship, because we were trying to love each other; but we weren\u2019t equipped to love each other. We were wounded. We were making each other pay the price for our wounds; we were making each other pay the price for all the past that we were bringing in. We had a whole lot of story, but we didn\u2019t have the love of the Savior. We had a whole lot of story and a whole lot of past that we could sit around, and talk long hours about, but there was no <em>power<\/em>. There was earthly passion, even lustful passion; but there was not the obedience of Christ in us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Darryl, were you a believer at that point? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> I was. I was lost in the midst of who I was and everything, and I got saved in \u201891 at a crusade. We didn\u2019t know if we were going to be together; we didn\u2019t know what our plans were or anything. We just really had to let go and let God be God in the process; because we didn\u2019t stay together,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> \u2014because I was still the bad boy. She had to let me go, and I had to go on my journey. I had to go on my journey to get well. I went to my sister\u2019s house\u2014Regina\u2014and I stayed with her three kids in a two-bedroom apartment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI got on my journey and got well with God. I went\u2014I stopped using drugs, and stopped having sex; I stopped smoking cigarettes\u2014I stopped doing all these different things, and I just saturated myself in the Word of God for six months. And then God sent me back to marry Tracy, and do it right, and go back and start. We started on a journey with nothing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI always say\u2014people say, \u201cWell, what do you call God\u2019s plan for your life?\u201d\u2014\u201cGod\u2019s plan\u2014He rescued me, He redeemed me, and He restored me\u2014that\u2019s what He does if you walk out His plan, not your plan.\u201d Everybody wants it their way; but me and Tracy finally realized it didn\u2019t have to be our way; it needed to be God\u2019s way. If we put it in God\u2019s hands, and trusted God like we said we trusted God, and understand the Bible like you understand the Bible, now, you can fulfill the life that God wants you to have together as one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere is no <em>I<\/em> in team. People need to understand that for a team to come together; marriage is a team. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> And for a team to come together to win, it cannot be about <em>I<\/em>; it has to be about <em>us<\/em>. We have to walk through these things together, and we walk through that whole process together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m curious\u2014take me back to 1991\u2014you give your life to Christ. Was there any discipleship along the way after that? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> No; that was the part I missed right there. I got radically saved at this crusade, and I accepted Christ. I had this moment\u2014like everybody comes down to the altar; they have this moment\u2014but then what is next? Most people don\u2019t get discipled\u2014they don\u2019t go through the discipleship\u2014you miss that part. That is the most important part for one to receive\u2014is the discipleship part\u2014so he can grow, and he can understand who he is in Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you don\u2019t\u2014I remember I had just signed the biggest contract of my life, $20 million contract\u2014I should have been happy. I\u2019m at this crusade\u2014I\u2019m crying, and I get radically saved\u2014the power of God came on me. Then what happens?\u2014I don\u2019t get discipled\u2014I run into the wall at Dodgers\u2019 Stadium and dislocate my shoulder. I\u2019m out the first half of that season; it was a real struggle, and it was a real battle for me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWithout discipleship\u2014that was a good question\u2014without discipleship, I went running. After I ran into the wall and dislocated my shoulder, I went back to drinking and womanizing; and I went running for another 15 years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s interesting\u2014as you guys talked\u2014you obviously have now been discipled. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You know the Word; you have a solid foundation as you talk. You\u2019ve matured spiritually. Talk to our listeners that haven\u2019t experienced that: \u201cWhat should they do? How do they get discipled?\u201d Talk about how that happened for you guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Discipleship is where the freedom is found; that\u2019s how you experience the newness of who you have become, in an instant, over a lifetime. Get in a Bible-based teaching church; take notes of the sermon that the pastor is preaching\u2014take those notes home, especially the Scripture references, and say, \u201cLord, speak to me,\u201d\u2014start there instead of the confusion of: \u201cWhere do I start in the Bible? What do I do in the Word?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome practical things were: I knew I had to get rid of my old people, places, and things, which is the power of influence\u2014it will take you down every time; it\u2019s a setup of the enemy\u2014you cannot become new by bringing in the old. You just can\u2019t do it. I had to position myself in uncomfortable places\u2014such as meeting with Christian women\u2014putting myself out there, going to church events, going to Christian events, going to places I was not comfortable with at first, and stepping out there and introducing myself, and allowing myself to be taught and mentored. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What do you mean by: \u201cIt was uncomfortable at first\u201d? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Because I was living in the world so strongly. I mean, I was going to the club; and I was confused by: \u201cWhat do you mean you don\u2019t sleep with somebody before you get married to them? How will you know them?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Did you feel like an <em>outsider<\/em>? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> I felt like an outsider; I felt like they were too good for me. I felt like: \u201cThere is no way I can be as good as these Christian women\u201d; or they would judge me; or \u201cThere is no way I could tell my story, because I am just so bad; and I\u2019ve gone down so far. Does God even love women like me?\u201d I had a lot of questions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> But discipleship brought me the truth of those answers, and healed me, and restored me, and empowered me. Discipleship is the walk of faith that the Word of God is poured into you: it\u2019s the avenue; it\u2019s the gateway; it\u2019s the way you experience the newness of who you are. Without doing that, you will never get to experience the richness of Christ that you receive the moment you came to salvation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You know, one of the questions that is still in my mind, as I hear you talk about the growth process through discipleship, which is so critical\u2014and honestly, as a pastor for 30 years\u2014so many in our church <em>never<\/em> take that step. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> That\u2019s horrible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> They really don\u2019t get discipled, and it\u2019s really on <em>us<\/em>\u2014we have to decide to pursue that\u2014God will bring the people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> He will. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We\u2019ve got to pursue it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things that I\u2019ve just got to ask you is about forgiveness\u2014because when you think about your background\u2014and I had a dad, who walked out when I was six, and I struggled for three decades to forgive him, not even realizing, \u201cI\u2019ve got a journey I have to take.\u201d You talk about it in your book. I was\u2014man, when I read what you said\u2014tell me if I\u2019m wrong, but I\u2019m going to read\/you said\u2014\u201cGod didn\u2019t tell me to forgive my father. He told me to ask my father to forgive me.\u201d When I read that, I\u2019m like, \u201cWhat?!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Yes, it was an <em>incredible<\/em> journey that God walked me through after saving me. I remember I was going to preach at a men\u2019s prayer breakfast on a Saturday morning; and God spoke to me on a Friday night. That was in California; He said, \u201cI want you to go down, and I want you to go see your father,\u201d\u2014he is in the hospital, because my brother had told me\u2014He [God] said, \u201cGo see him and ask your father for forgiveness. I want you to ask him to forgive you for keeping him out of your career, your life, the grandkids, and everything.\u201d I was like, \u201cAre you serious, Lord?!\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI called my wife; and I told her, \u201cYou need to pray for me. God is all over me this Friday. I can\u2019t go to sleep, and I\u2019ve got to do this men\u2019s prayer breakfast. He wants me to go forgive my father.\u201d She said, \u201cWell, you need to do exactly what He said.\u201d I did; I woke up that Sunday morning, and I went to the hospital. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI saw him; He said\/I remember God saying, \u201cDon\u2019t say anything about what he did to you,\u201d\u2014we were just having a conversation, me and my brother there, having a conversation. I said, \u201cYou know the Lord has changed my life, and I\u2019m a different person now.\u201d I said, \u201cWould you forgive me for keeping you out of my life and my career?\u201d A tear came down his eye; and he shook his head and said, \u201cYes.\u201d I just lost it! I laid in his lap, and I just lost it! I just laid there. I was weeping so hard and just saying, \u201cI\u2019m so sorry.\u201d I just remember the Lord said, \u201cRaise up.\u201d He says, \u201cNow, lead him in the sinner\u2019s prayer.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> There I was; I said, \u201cWould you like to accept the Lord over your life?\u201d He said, \u201cYes.\u201d I just remember God saying, \u201cHow dare you not forgive him, and I forgave you!\u201d See, we have to understand <em>grace<\/em>. You know, He gave me grace; why wouldn\u2019t I give him grace? Then I just remember God saying to me, \u201cThe forgiveness was not for your father. The forgiveness was for [you].\u201d He said, \u201cYou stayed broken all those years, because you wouldn\u2019t forgive.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just cried; I cried driving home. I was just\/but I just remember, through that whole process, how God\/I told Tracy how God just released me after I did that to my father\u2014you know, asked him to forgive me\u2014He released me; He set me free. I was a <em>totally<\/em> different person. He took me to a whole other level. I thought I was just at this level\u2014\u201cOkay, God, I\u2019m doing your work,\u201d\u2014God was like, \u201cNo, you were doing My will, but you still had some things that I needed to get out of you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> So he passed, knowing Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Yes, he passed six months later; yes, he passed like six months later. He goes on home to be with the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And what about your siblings? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> I ended up leading all of them to the Lord. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m thinking about your mom! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes, the legacy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Yes, because she told me\u2014my mom said, \u201cOh, you\u2019re going to do it,\u201d\u2014she said, \u201cYou\u2019re going to do it. God already spoke to me. You\u2019re going to be the one to do it; everybody is going to come in line.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember my sister, Regina, was dying; and at the age of 51, she had cancer. She was in a hospital in California. I was going to ministry somewhere; and God said, \u201cGet to California.\u201d He said, \u201cI want you to get everybody out of the room, and I want you to go in there. I want you to lead her to Me.\u201d It was <em>the<\/em> hardest thing I had to do; she was my favorite sister. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Really? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Yes; it was the <em>hardest<\/em> thing I had to do. He said, \u201cI want you to go lead her.\u201d He goes, \u201cShe is going to die, but I want you to lead her to Me.\u201d I go in there, and everybody is around. The first thing I said was, \u201cEverybody has got to get out for a minute. I\u2019ve got to talk to Regina.\u201d I said, \u201cRegina, you know the Lord has saved me.\u201d I said [emotion in voice], \u201cAre you ready?\u201d She said, \u201cYes!\u201d She said, \u201cGo ahead and lead me.\u201d It was the hardest thing I had to do, because me and her were like this [gesturing closeness]; you know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> And there I was, leading her. And then Tracy takes her and says\u2014Tracy flies in\u2014she says, \u201cI\u2019m going to take her back home to St. Louis.\u201d They said she couldn\u2019t travel; Tracy said, \u201cI\u2019m <em>taking<\/em> her.\u201d She goes on; she takes her. She takes care of her while I\u2019m on the road, travelling, doing ministry. She passes away at our house in St. Louis. So, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And Tracy, what about your boys? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> My boys are <em>amazing<\/em>. I am restored to all three of my boys; I have an incredible relationship with my kids. God has also, now, used me as the restoration agent to bring them to Him. [Emotion in voice] God is so good that He would put me in the position, from what I took from them, that He would use me as the one who would give it back to them but in a greater way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It is <em>amazing<\/em>; isn\u2019t it? It took me years to understand that He often uses our pain to point us to our purpose. The pain that you\u2014and a lot of it was self-inflicted\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014and a lot of our pain is self-inflicted; even then, we make these horrible choices\u2014God forgives; God restores; God empowers. He says: \u201cThat very valley you walked through\/that darkness is going to be the thing I\u2019m going to use\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cfor your future.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve ever heard the quote, Darryl. When I was trying to forgive my dad, I was reading this forgiveness book by Lewis Smedes; he says, \u201cWhen you forgive someone, you set a prisoner free, only to discover, you are the prisoner.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> So true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I remember, when I read that, I thought I locked my dad up\u2014\u201cYou don\u2019t deserve to be in my life,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m like, \u201cI locked <em>myself<\/em> up.\u201d I couldn\u2019t be free to be the man God called me to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m hearing your story, thinking, \u201cWow!\u201d When you were set free\u2014you said it wasn\u2019t even about your dad; it was about <em>you<\/em>\u2014when you were set free, look at what He did <em>after<\/em> that, and He is still doing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You are free to be used by God in a powerful way. I can\u2019t imagine what your future looks like. Seriously, I think it\u2019s just the <em>beginning<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes, you guys are amazing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014of your impact in ministry in the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Glory to God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Amen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Thanks for being with us, you guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Darryl:<\/strong> Thanks for having us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Thanks for having us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I have to think there may be somebody, who has been listening today, who thinks, \u201cMy situation\u2014the mess I\u2019ve made of my life\u2014I\u2019m beyond God\u2019s ability to help\/to pull me out of the ditch I\u2019m in.\u201d I think what we\u2019ve heard from Darryl and Tracy Strawberry today is that <em>nobody<\/em> is beyond God\u2019s mercy, God\u2019s grace, God\u2019s redemption. God doesn\u2019t just save us so that we will be with Him forever. God saves us so that eternal life can begin for you right now. New life in Christ can begin for you right now. There is help, and there is hope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDarryl talks about that in his book, <em>Turn Your Season Around: How God Transforms Your Life<\/em>. It\u2019s a book we have in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order your copy from us online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or you can call to order at 1-800-FL-TODAY. Again, the book is called <em>Turn Your Season Around<\/em> by Darryl Strawberry. Order online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, as we get down to the last few days of August, for the last few weeks, we\u2019ve been asking you to prayerfully consider becoming a monthly supporter of FamilyLife, what we call a Legacy Partner. David Robbins, who is the president of FamilyLife, is here with me. David, help our listeners understand how vital and how important Legacy Partners are to the ongoing work of this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> Well, first of all, I just want to say that I am so grateful to be able to meet many Legacy Partners as I travel and do different events. It is such a joy to meet people, who are faithful listeners as time allows and space allows in their life, and also partners to help get the message of the gospel, and the ways of Jesus that can thrive in a home and help families flourish, to get those to as many people as possible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI am just so grateful for you, who are currently Legacy Partners, and give in an ongoing way. It\u2019s that ongoing support that allows us to know what is coming in so that we can plan accordingly and get these great messages around marriage and family to as many people as possible. You really are an engine to help fuel our mission of effectively developing godly families who change the world one home at a time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt is the last week of August, and we would invite you to become a Legacy Partner and be a part of the team that is taking this to homes that may not know the hope of Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And as many of our listeners know, what we\u2019ve been hoping for\/praying for this month is that, in every city where FamilyLife is heard, there might be two families who would step forward and say, \u201cWe want to be part of the team that makes <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> possible in our community.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you would be one of those two\u2014if you would contact us today and say, \u201cI want to join you as a Legacy Partner,\u201d\u2014we\u2019re going to send you some thank-you gifts: a certificate to attend a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaway as our guests\u2014you can pass that along to someone else if you\u2019d like\u2014we\u2019ll send you Dave and Ann Wilson\u2019s new book, <em>No Perfect Parents<\/em>; and exclusive access to messages from Dave and Ann. All of that is our way of saying, \u201cThank you for your partnership with us in the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u201d You can connect with us online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Thanks, in advance, for praying about this and considering joining with us as a Legacy Partner. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this weekend, and I hope you can join us on Monday when we\u2019re going to talk about betrayal, and about broken trust, and how we can rebuild a relationship when that has happened, and how we forgive a person who has betrayed us. Lysa TerKeurst joins us on Monday for that conversation. We hope you can join us as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOn behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Have a great weekend. 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