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Kennon Vaughan shares a simple routine that anyone can do.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylife.com\/fl2021-08-19.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We had a somewhat embarrassing moment, as a father and mother, trying to raise sons that follow Christ; you know? We\u2019re radio hosts about marriage and family; we had written a book on marriage. But the book on parenting was all about: \u201cHow do you make disciples of your own children in your home?\u201d\u2014right?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So we had this conversation one day. You asked one of our sons to name the 12 disciples. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, yes! This is when we were in the midst of parenting, and this\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> How old was he? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He was 13. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Okay, this is really embarrassing. I was hoping he was like five. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> No; this is the son that wasn\u2019t raised in Christian school; the other ones were. Yes, I just said, \u201cHey, if you had to name the 12 disciples, how many could you name?\u201d He goes, \u201cI don\u2019t know; maybe a few.\u201d I go, \u201cOkay; well, why don\u2019t you start?\u201d He goes, \u201cOkay; Moses, Joseph\u201d; [Laughter] I\u2019m like, \u201cWhat?!\u201d I was so humiliated, thinking, \u201cWe are doing a <em>terrible<\/em> job. What are we doing in our house?!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWelcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Ann Wilson.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m Dave Wilson, and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That was pretty embarrassing, and I blame it all on my wife. [Laughter] The good thing is that son is now in ministry\/\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014full-time vocational ministry as a pastor. It doesn\u2019t always require a prerequisite\u00a0 you can name the disciples when you are 13. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He could now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; but I mean, this is a big topic in the home; it\u2019s like, \u201cHow do we help parents disciple their children and make disciples?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got a great guest with us. He\u2019s been on before; but we\u2019re glad to have you back because you\u2019re the expert at this, Kennon Vaughan. Glad to have you back on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Thanks. It is an absolute joy to be here with you guys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Kennon, we were inspired when you were here the last time. You were talking about disciple-making; you were talking about your passion and your heart for this. I know that a lot of our listeners were inspired. We were like, \u201cMan, this is <em>so<\/em> good.\u201d So many families feel <em>lost<\/em> in knowing, \u201cWhat does this look like? I don\u2019t know how to do it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I do remember that interview; because we weren\u2019t really having you on to talk about discipleship as much as Downline, which I want to hear you talk about a little bit; but man, oh man, we were both like, \u201cWow! That was so inspiring.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet\u2019s talk about discipling our children; but before we do that, you are the president of Downline Institute\/Downline Ministries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Yes, that\u2019s right: Downline Ministries. The goal of Downline is to equip men and women to make disciples. You guys just said it well\u2014I was inspired, too, of our time together\u2014and just by you guys\u2019 example. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnn, just like you said, a lot of folks are saying: \u201cI don\u2019t really get that,\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> \u201cWhat does it look like? What is it?\u201d \u201cI mean I see it\u2019s Jesus is telling us to make disciples, but it\u2019s just such a nebulous, vague term in the church today.\u201d Downline exists to help you understand: \u201cWhat did Jesus mean when He said, \u2018Go make disciples of all nations\u2019? How do you do it?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy goodness! Even with our own children\u2014my wife and I\u2014five sons. I know we\u2019re going to be talking about family discipleship here shortly. This is one of our greatest God-given stewardships\u2014discipling these boys\/raising them in the training and instruction of the Lord\u2014so excited to dive into that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Downline Institute is a nine-month program, where we literally take folks that\u2014generally, people don\u2019t make disciples because they have no idea what it means, and they don\u2019t feel like they know their Bibles\u2014even longtime church-goers, generally, feel intimidated when it comes to navigating God\u2019s Word. Over a nine-month period, we meet twice a week; and by the way, this is now available\u2014not just in our live locations, which are found on our website DownlineMinistries.com\u2014but we have a livestream class. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe walk Genesis through Revelation in nine months. We will literally start you in Genesis 1 and finish in Revelation 22 and give you handles on the big picture of God\u2019s Word, which I have just been so fascinated and enamored, watching people fall in love with Jesus through the Scriptures. Then we do practical discipleship training: we define it; we talk about it, and the struggle of our own life\/in the context of our own life, where we live, work, and play. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to invite every listener, who is out there\u2014just feeling intimidated by that, not knowing how to do it\u2014please come check us out at DownlineMinistries.com. We do have a FamilyLife promotional code. I just promise you this: \u201cIf you do it\u2014I don\u2019t care how old you are\u2014it will absolutely change the way you live the rest of your life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I want to go take that class. Look at you! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> It fires me up. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Kennon, anyone that talks to you knows that you have this passion for discipleship; you started Downline. Where did that come from?\u2014where did that passion and that zeal come from? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Yes; I mean, just solely the mercy of God, who took me when I was in my early 20s, serving in youth ministry; but really, not knowing my Bible very well, feeling convicted that I needed to know it better to do what I was called to do. I loved the Lord; I loved these kids, but I really didn\u2019t know how to be a leader\/how to be a discipler. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI never had a spiritual father in my life. By God\u2019s grace, I heard a man speak, named \u201cSoup\u201d Campbell; and I saw in him Jesus like I had never seen. The way he exposited John 15 one night\u2014it was like the Lord was speaking to me\u2014I wanted to know the Lord, and I wanted to know His Word like <em>this<\/em> man. I pursued him\u2014he gave me his number\u2014told me to call him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe story is kind of funny. I called him the next day; he told me to call him in a week. I called him in a week; he told me to call him in a month. I was pretty sure\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Really true?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> True story. At that point, I assumed he was just kind of blowing me off; but a month later, just by the Lord\u2019s leading, I called him one more time. I fell over myself, apologizing for continuing to bother him; but said, \u201cMan, I don\u2019t know my Bible. I don\u2019t know the Lord like you do. I want so bad what you have\/that intimacy with Christ that you just reek of.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cWell, come to my house tomorrow morning at 5 am.\u201d I showed up there at 4:45 in the morning, and he was standing in the front yard. I thought, \u201cThis is just an awkward situation.\u201d I walk up to him; no pleasantries. He had me sit down on his front porch and said, \u201cHey, Kennon, you and I come from two very different worlds.\u201d I could look around and know that was true. He said, \u201cI don\u2019t really care how smart you are or how talented you are; but if you can be faithful, I can show you how to be a man of God.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> I had never had a godly man in my life. My father was a dear man; we were best friends. He passed when I was 16 of brain cancer, but I had never had a godly man ever kind of grab ahold of me and say, \u201cCome on; follow me. I\u2019ll show you how to follow Jesus.\u201d That relationship completely changed my walk with Christ, my life, my love for Christ, my intimacy with Christ, my knowledge of His Word, and love for His Word. It was discipleship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod birthed in me a passion to help other people be discipled and make disciples. That journey is when I began to realize how confusing that term is: how people don\u2019t know, how the Scriptures are so intimidating. Just in God\u2019s divine providence, He connected me with one great man after another. Howard Hendricks became a great mentor of mine; in seminary, helped me kind of think through what experience and gifts God had given me and how to steward those to help. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tReally, I\u2019ll be honest with you\u2014our dream at Downline is to see a restoration of biblical discipleship in and through the local church\u2014it\u2019s nothing less than that. We want what \u201cSoup\u201d did with me to become the <em>norm<\/em> again. I think that was Jesus\u2019s plan; it was His lifestyle; it was His command. We want to help people follow Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, what \u201cSoup\u201d did with you, obviously, is what we, as parents, want to do with our own kids\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014right? You, as a dad; you\u2019ve got five sons. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> In some ways, I found it easier to disciple my congregation as a pastor than my own sons; but you\u2019ve got to do both. Talk about how you do that in the home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Yes; and just what a great, vital, and overwhelming question. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How old are your boys? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Yes, my boys are 13, 11, 10, 8, and 3. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019ve been married how long? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> We just celebrated our 15-year anniversary. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Congratulations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Thank you. God has blessed us with five boys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYour question, Dave\u2014it\u2019s something that Kathryn and I have to think through\u2014not just because I\u2019m in vocational ministry with the discipleship bent and job in pastoring people, but because this is the primary stewardship God\u2019s given us. I mean, discipleship <em>starts<\/em> in the home. It\u2019s so easy to be a pastor, and in Christian ministry, and spend your time discipling everyone else and not your children. Frankly, it\u2019s\/sometimes, it\u2019s harder at home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s really hard. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> It sure is. I mean, you can\u2019t just put your best foot forward; it\u2019s not just an hour a week. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You can\u2019t fake it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> No; those kids know me. Those boys know exactly who I am. By the way, that\u2019s where I would say it starts. The <em>beautiful<\/em> thing about God\u2019s design for discipling in the home is the authenticity that is built in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou guys have already alluded to something\u2014I loved it in your intro story\u2014about your son, who didn\u2019t know the disciples. As much as I hope my 13-year-old\u2014I was thinking in my head, \u201cI\u2019ve got a 13-year-old. I wonder how he would do?\u201d\u2014as much as I hope he would be able to name three or four, what I hope even more is probably what your son had; in that he has the gift of seeing his father, whole-heartedly, love and follow Jesus\u2014because that is the most important thing that we can give them\u2014is what it looks like to <em>pursue<\/em> Christ in our own daily walk. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, that has practical out-workings in a marriage that they see pretty much everything in front of their eyes unfold\u2014in sin, like I\u2019m far from perfect: I\u2019m going to lose it; I\u2019m going to be selfish; I\u2019m going to make bad decisions\u2014there are so many opportunities for them to see me struggle with: my flesh; difficult situations with circumstances, with persecution, with tragedy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to make sure that, just like \u201cSoup\u201d did with me, Dave, I\u2019m saying, \u201cHey, guys, follow me. Jesus is the good Shepherd. I\u2019m an under-shepherd, and I love you guys; but the greatest thing I can do is point you towards Him. I\u2019m going to do it imperfectly, but it\u2019s going to be my <em>greatest<\/em> endeavor to do so.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> How have you dealt with the imperfect part? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You\u2019ve got the boys\u2014they\u2019re watching you\u2014your wife is watching you. I\u2019m looking over at my wife; she has watched all of my sin and imperfections, and so have my sons. What have you done?\u2014because I know you haven\u2019t lived it perfectly. How do you live that out?\u2014and how do you\/do you apologize? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Sure;\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Do you say, \u201cI\u2019m sorry\u201d? Do you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> \u2014all the time. When my oldest son was about five\u2014and I was starting to lose my temper, speak to him in an unloving, selfish way\u2014maybe, I was embarrassed by his action; I realized it was more about me than him. When I saw some of those, I thought, \u201cI\u2019ve got to do a lot of covering up, and lot of justifying, and a lot of defending, and a lot of rationalizing in my own mind; <em>or<\/em> I\u2019ve got to be honest with him and tell him I blew it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are so many times I will fail my sons as a dad; I know that. There are few ways I want to make sure I <em>don\u2019t<\/em> fail them; one is I want to be a regular repenter before them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> So this is what you are modeling.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Absolutely. Look, they are pastor\u2019s kids, too; they kind of live in a fish bowl. I pastor a large church in Memphis; and sometimes, I feel for them in that. Everybody expects them to be godly beyond their age\u2014and that\u2019s tough for them\u2014it can be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want them to be unafraid of being a Christ-follower\u2014not Christ\u2014but a Christ-follower. Part of that means a life of confession of sin, repentance from sin, and trusting Christ to grow us through it. Even when God convicts me on things that don\u2019t have to do specifically in a way that I might have sinned against them or led poorly in the family\u2014just sin in general\u2014that is the fodder for our family devos. That\u2019s the time we are praying in the evenings, where I say, \u201cGuys, let me tell you what I am struggling with. I\u2019ve been really offended by a brother, and I am struggling with forgiveness.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you talk to kids, they are so sweet. They are pretty innocent; and they are going, \u201cYes, yes. That is hard!\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cHey, you know what? That\u2019s even hard for me. You\u2019re not going to grow out of that, but let\u2019s look at what Scriptures say about it. Pray for me; I need to forgive a brother. I <em>need<\/em> you to pray for me. This is going to be tough for Daddy.\u201d You invite them in to followership of Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is a radical, countercultural lifestyle\u2014that\u2019s not what you are going to see\/that\u2019s not what is celebrated\u2014but it\u2019s what we value with our whole heart, mind, soul, and strength. We\u2019ve got to be\u2014our little church community starts with us\u2014and it extends to our Harvest community and then to Christians all over the world\u2014but we\u2019ve got to hunker down together, and link arms, and follow Jesus, letting them in on the reality of the struggle with your flesh and with being obedient to Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Has there been a time that you can recall when you\u2019ve gone back and apologized to your kids for something you\u2019ve done? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Oh, yes; regularly. And I appreciate your asking me a question that forces me to be vulnerable and deal with my own shame. [Laughter] Yes, most recently, you know, I got into a tiff with their mother. Do you guys ever have that? Have you graduated from that? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> No, we\u2019re perfect. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Okay, good; no, but I did. I spoke <em>harshly<\/em> with her\u2014not berating her or cussing her out or anything like that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014but your tone; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> \u2014but I raised my voice with her; yes, my tone. I knew it as it was happening: \u201cThis is wrong.\u201d I was convicted <em>in the moment<\/em>; sometimes, God does it afterwards. That\u2019s one, where I sat them down and said, \u201cHey, guys, I just need to talk to you about what happened down there. Your mother is the jewel in my crown, and she is the greatest treasure God has given me. She is the most delightful and faithful wife and woman, and I could go on and on. You guys know how much I love her; but I lost my temper, and I spoke with her in a way that was completely inappropriate. That dishonored her; it dishonored the Lord; and it dishonored you guys.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI asked them, \u201cHow could I have handled that?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Did they answer? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Absolutely; they said, \u201cFirst, well, you know she was <em>right<\/em>.\u201d I\u2019m saying, \u201cI don\u2019t need you to correct me right there.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut no; they said, \u201cYou could have prayed about it first.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> These are things I\u2019ve confessed to them in the past. They are learning; and of course, they are going to learn\u2014but they see more than what you say\u2014but: \u201cYou could pray about that first,\u201d \u201cYou could have talked to Mommy gently,\u201d \u201cYou could have admitted where you were wrong.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey began to see the patterns, from my confession to them, of how to conflict well in our relationships and how to do so selfishly and poorly. That was a time I apologized to them. An apology is not just an acknowledgement; it\u2019s asking for forgiveness. I said, \u201cI need you guys to forgive me on that. Even if you need time with that, take time; but I need you to forgive me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere is <em>great<\/em> accountability in that. When you\u2019ve got to ask your son\u2019s forgiveness, it\u2019s going to help me the next time when I lose my temper, which will happen with them or with my wife, to handle that in a way that honors the Lord and honors them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s really good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You mentioned already about praying together\/devos. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon: <\/strong>Yes, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I want to hear about that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, talk about that a little bit; because it sounds like there is a lifestyle of discipleship that you\u2019ve already commented on. What\u2019s that look like in the Vaughan home? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Just this lifestyle of following Jesus together. Sometimes, we want to compartmentalize discipling our kids to a study. I\u2019m not going to minimize the importance of studying God\u2019s Word and having it central\u2014but I would love to encourage folks to think through the grid of Deuteronomy 6, which says, \u201cHey, when you lie down and when you wake\u2026\u201d\u2014like the pillars of your home are going to be God\u2019s Word, and you talk about them all along the way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKathryn and I have thought about: \u201cHow do we put Deuteronomy 6 into practice?\u201d Mornings and evenings, I think, are so big\/specifically mentioned in Deuteronomy. I love building traditions into our home: daily traditions, annual traditions, seasonal traditions. I think that is a great way to build a gospel legacy and a home of worship; but we want to kind of put some pegs in the ground in the morning and the evening, so we start our day with a little family devotional. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> So you are doing morning devotionals. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Morning devotionals. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> No matter how old these kids have been, you\u2019ve\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. Listen, don\u2019t be overwhelmed by that; it\u2019s not: \u201cWell, you\u2019re a pastor; of course...\u201d No messy two- and four-year-olds don\u2019t care about systematic theology, [Laughter] so you\u2019re trying to have a moment of gospel-focused worship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe way Kathryn and I structure it is we have our own time with the Lord earlier than our family devotional, which oftentimes allows there to be some real relevant\/something that God has put on my heart or her heart. We also have a Bible reading plan we\u2019re following. The stage we\u2019re in\u2014this changes year to year\u2014but the stage we\u2019re in: at 7:40 every morning, we\u2019re at the table for family devo. That gives us about a 20-minute window. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> So they are eating. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> They finish up their eating by then, and they clean their dishes. We are around the table for: I read a little bit of God\u2019s Word, and we talk. If God\u2019s putting something on my heart or Kathryn\u2019s heart that we want to discuss, we can totally go that direction; but we\u2019re reading through. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe just did a study on the names of God; that was really fun\u2014just take one\u2014talk about it and: \u201cHow do we see it?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Okay, walk us through a little bit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> It\u2019s something I cherish. I\u2019ll read God\u2019s Word, which usually takes three or four minutes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Okay, so it\u2019s not <em>too<\/em> long. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> No; again, for us, long wouldn\u2019t work; so it\u2019s good to be relevant. Read three or four minutes; and then I\u2019ll ask a couple of questions, which are: \u201cDid you understand that?\u201d \u201cWhat questions did you have?\u201d \u201cWhat did you hear that made a lot of sense?\u201d \u201cWhat did you hear that made <em>no<\/em> sense?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, depending on what the study is, there is usually some leader guide questions that we\u2019ll talk about\u2014God\u2019s faithfulness in Joseph\u2019s life\u2014\u201cWhat do we do when we have\/when things don\u2019t go the way we want them to go?\u201d Then I\u2019ll ask them: \u201cHey, Luke, have you ever had that happen?\u201d \u201cCaleb, what do you think?\u201d You let them ponder it. They don\u2019t always have the answers\u2014the right answers\u2014but I want to <em>engage<\/em> them in a discussion. This is a low-hanging fruit discussion; we\u2019re looking for big gospel rocks.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere is what it does\u2014I don\u2019t ever feel like I\u2019ve got to nail the discussion and bring out something profound and everyone gets saved\u2014I feel like we\u2019re starting our day, talking about a truth from God\u2019s Word. What happens is: now, we are noodling it all day; that\u2019s what Deuteronomy 6 says: \u201cIt\u2019s in there.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then, what is so fun\u2014you know, when you\u2019re picking up carpool or you\u2019re taking them to sports practice, and they refer back to a devo\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> \u2014and you find out how on-time God\u2019s Word is; like, \u201cDad, do you remember what we read this morning? I <em>saw<\/em> that today. I saw an opportunity to help a guy in need like the good Samaritan said. I was just thinking about it because of what we said.\u201d It was a kid that was silent in devo\u2014and boom!\u2014God is bringing it to roost in his life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s a peg we put there every morning, even when we don\u2019t just see this tidal wave of fruit that morning. We may have disinterested tired kids that are giving us very little; but we try to keep that engaging, conversational, centered in God\u2019s Word. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen in the evenings\u2014the other side of it\u2014this is my favorite moment of the day when everything finally winds down\u2014the last thing I do; I\u2019ve done this since my oldest kid was about three years old; so we have about a ten-year tradition working\u2014is we get on our knees, and we pray together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014the whole family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> Well, me and all the boys. Kathryn does a thing, where she walks and prays the armor of God over them. She\u2019s got her own kind of cool tradition, but I get on my knees. I\u2019ve done this since my oldest was about three, and he was just climbing on my back. I\u2019ve still got a three-year-old climbing on my back; but it\u2019s fun to watch them go from being a distraction, to being a worshipper, to participating in prayer. It\u2019s really fun. My oldest goes first; then we go right down the line, and then I finish. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> So you all pray out loud. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kennon:<\/strong> We all pray out loud. It\/I just cannot tell you how powerful this is. I really can\u2019t put it into words\u2014I don\u2019t have, you know, a routine\u2014I just pray. I pray about what I\u2019ve seen God doing in my life and in that day; and thank Him for His faithfulness; and taking Him my struggles or family decisions we\u2019re wrestling with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s so fun to see. For them, they get to hear me\/my heart; they know what Kathryn and I wrestle with through those prayers. It is the sweetest thing in the world when you watch a three-year-old go to a thirteen-year-old, listening to him pray. It goes from\u2014just the thank Yous \u201cfor my brothers and for food,\u201d and the beautiful, sweet learning gratitude\u2014to he\u2019s struggling with things; he\u2019s wrestling with things; and he\u2019s asking God for help. He\u2019s doing it, vulnerably, in front of his brothers; because that\u2019s all he\u2019s known from the time he began to pray. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen they are all praying, now, we all know: where each other\u2019s heart is with the Lord, how to pray for each other, how to support each other, how to love each other. You just hear the dependence on God deepen in all of our lives together. That\u2019s the evening peg. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ve got these pegs: God\u2019s Word in the morning, intimacy with God in prayer in the evening. I\u2019ll just tell you this\u2014because I don\u2019t want to make it too hard\u2014you don\u2019t need a seminary degree to have a 20-minute time of talking about God\u2019s Word in the morning and 15\/20 minutes in the evening to be on your knees before the Lord together. If you do that, I can make you the promise that it will affect so many of the conversations in between your morning peg and your evening peg. If you do it every day, it becomes a lifestyle, where the gospel is at the center\u2014Christ is at the center\u2014and there are going to be so many opportunities in the as-you-go time to talk about things through a biblical grid. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I wish we would have done that; that\u2019s so good! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, that is actually just beautiful. As you were saying that, I literally pictured in my mind families\u2014moms and dads listening right now; single moms, single dads listening\u2014saying, \u201cThat\u2019s a vision I can accomplish\u201d; because it isn\u2019t a seminary degree; it isn\u2019t a Master\u2019s degree. It\u2019s really a fire in mom and dad\u2019s heart that just overflows to say, \u201cLet\u2019s put a peg in the morning and a peg in the evening.\u201d I\u2019m hoping that families are going to change a daily routine just as a result of listening today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think any of us, who have tried to engage with our kids on spiritual issues on a regular basis, have experienced what most parents have experienced: kids who tune out, don\u2019t act like they are paying attention, don\u2019t act like they care or like they are even listening. Yet, we are planting seeds. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can\u2019t tell you how many kids I talk to, once they\u2019ve grown, who have said, \u201cThis was a priority in my family.\u201d Just that statement of it being a priority is what mattered. They may not remember a specific devotion or a specific thing you shared; but they remember that it mattered to mom and dad that the family get together and acknowledge God on a daily basis. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have resources, here at FamilyLife, that can help you disciple your kids. I\u2019m thinking of the video series we created on the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, which covers a lot of topics, including family discipleship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen let me draw your attention, again, to what Kennon Vaughan was talking about earlier, the Downline program. That is a <em>great<\/em> resource to help moms and dads, single people\u2014wherever you are\u2014in your walk with Christ. This will help you understand the Bible better and go deeper. Downline Ministries has a virtual institute that is available; it\u2019s kind of like enrolling in a one-year Bible training or Bible college program. It will help you get a big picture on all that the Bible teaches. You can find out more about the Downline Ministries Institute when you go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. There is a link there. Keep in mind: If you choose to enroll, \u201cFamilyLife\u201d is a key word that can provide you with savings on the enrollment. Again, all the information is available on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com. Find out more about Downline Ministries and the Downline Institute. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere is a group of listeners I just want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to, those of you who are regular, monthly givers\u2014Legacy Partners is what we call you\u2014this team of monthly supporters is the group that has made today\u2019s conversation possible. Here, in the last weeks of August, our team is praying that in every city where <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is heard, God would raise up two new families to join us as Legacy Partners so that this program can continue to be available, not only in this city, but in cities all around the world. You make that happen when you become a <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Legacy Partner. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can join with us today, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a copy of Dave and Ann Wilson\u2019s new book, <em>No Perfect Parents<\/em>. We\u2019ll also send you an all-access pass to more than a dozen messages from Dave and Ann about marriage- and family-related themes. Some of those messages have been featured on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>; some of them are brand-new messages you haven\u2019t heard before. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>And<\/em> as a new Legacy Partner, we\u2019re going to send you a certificate so that you and your spouse, or someone you know, can attend, as your guest, one of our <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> getaways. We\u2019ve got about 30 getaways happening, once again, this fall; we\u2019re pretty excited about that. You\u2019ll get a certificate so you can be a part of one of the upcoming getaways when you become a monthly Legacy Partner today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can sign up online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Join us in praying that God would raise up new Legacy Partners in every city where <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is heard. 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