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Trevin Wax reveals the limitations in our own understanding and the limitless God whose dreams for us are bigger and better than we can ever imagine.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylife.com\/fl2021-08-03.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Okay, I want to find out if you ever really <em>listen<\/em> when I preach.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, no! I\u2019m going to get it wrong!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You always say you do; and you come up, \u201cOh, honey, that was great!\u201d I wonder if you <em>really <\/em>ever listen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m wondering if anybody in the congregation ever listens.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m sweating; I\u2019m sweating right now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, I think you\u2019re going to know the answer to this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I\u2019m Ann Wilson.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m Dave Wilson, and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>I\u2019ve said many times, in 30 years of preaching, that there are two beliefs\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014that we hold. Again, this is just my perspective; but I\u2019ve said there are two beliefs that we hold that determine <em>every<\/em> decision we make every day. Those two beliefs are\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What we think about God, which is theology; and what we think about ourselves, which is identity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> A+\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Give me five!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes, I\u2019m so glad I got it right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Now, I\u2019m not saying it\u2019s right or wrong. There\u2019s just 30-40 years of walking with Christ and looking at my life, and looking at Scripture, and looking around, and seeing how people live; I think I could make a case that how you think about God\u2014and this is, you know, the attributes of God\/who He is and how you think about yourself; so that\u2019s theology and identity. I <em>really do <\/em>think, when you pull back\u2014\u201cWhy did they say that?\u201d or \u201cWhy do they make this\u2026\u201d\u2014I think it comes down to theology and identity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tToday, we\u2019ve got Trevin Wax with us, who has written a book, really about both; but it zeros in on identity, called <em>Rethink Yourself. <\/em>We\u2019ve already started a discussion on it. It\u2019s a <em>wonderful<\/em> way to look at how we <em>build<\/em> our theology and how we <em>build <\/em>our belief about identity. I want to dive in more today on identity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; Trevin, welcome back to <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> It\u2019s great to be back with you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s been fun already, having this conversation with you, because we\u2019re living in a culture, which really is looking inward. We have hot topics like: \u201cidentity,\u201d \u201cBe true to yourself,\u201d \u201cThis is where you find your source of joy and happiness\u2026\u201d Listeners are thinking, \u201cWell, yes, that sounds good.\u201d You\u2019re saying, \u201cOh, yes; that\u2019s been culturally building for years and years,\u201d\u2014that we\u2019re finding our identity and our happiness as we look <em>inward<\/em>. That\u2019s what we talked about previously.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; give us a real quick summary of: there\u2019s three approaches.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We hit two really hard previously. Hit those; and then I really want to camp on number three, which is sort of the best way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> But hit the first two real quick. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Most people in our culture, according to the surveys\u2014and different sociologists and people who [study] our culture have said this is the case\u2014most people look at the purpose of life as: \u201cYou need to look inside yourself to then find and express yourself.\u201d So you: \u201cLook <em>in <\/em>first to discover who you are\/to find out what your deepest desires are; then you look <em>around <\/em>to the people around you to affirm you, to support you, and to cheer you on in that self that you have constructed; and then, if you feel like you need to, you look <em>up <\/em>to God or to some higher power for inspiration in your life\/some sort of spiritual dimension.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> The second way is: \u201cLook around; look up; look in.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That doesn\u2019t work either.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> No, that\u2019s the community-based way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> You know, the community defines you\u2014the family tells you who you\u2019re going to be\u2014that\u2019s dominant for most parts of the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut even the very notion of <em>adding<\/em> Jesus to your life sounds like we\u2019re just\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> \u2014you know, we\u2019d love for Him to take <em>part<\/em> in our lives\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> \u2014but Jesus comes to take over!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Right; \u201cJust bless my life, Jesus;\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cbut don\u2019t take <em>over!\u201d <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Right; \u201cI want to still be in control.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Exactly!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> And that leads us to that third way, which is what I believe the Bible teaches: \u201cWhere the purpose or life is first to look <em>up<\/em> first to God. That question you brought up before about: \u201cWhat do you think about God?\u2014who He is; what He is like. What are His attributes?\u201d \u201cWhat does the Bible teach us about God?\u201d\u2014He\u2019s at the center. We\u2019re not the center of the universe, with Him revolving around our plans; He\u2019s at the center of everything, and we are a part of His big plan. \u201cGod coming first; then looking around to others\u2014to the people of God\/the family of God that we are called to be a part of\u2014then looking <em>in<\/em> to see that unique contribution that God has for us to make to His kingdom.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, the Apostle Paul talks about how, in the church, it\u2019s one body; but there are many different parts. We all have different roles to play. I think, as a parent, I know my kids are unique; I want to celebrate the unique aspects of those kids, but I want to celebrate them in a way that\u2019s going to have them asking questions: \u201cWhere does my identity\u2014my gifts\/my talents and the things that God has given me\u2014where is that going to fit in His overall plant?\u201d\u2014<em>not<\/em>\u2014\u201cHow can God fit into <em>my<\/em> plan for my life?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> \u201cHow can what God has given me fit into <em>His<\/em> plan for the world?\u201d\u2014that\u2019s the bigger question that I think we have to wrestle with.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; so what happens, in a sense\u2014I think we all know, because hopefully we\u2019ve experienced this\u2014but help the listener understand: \u201cIf I take that approach, I\u2019m going to start the opposite of what I did in college:\u201d\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014you know?\u2014\u201c\u2019I\u2019m going to add a little God to my life.\u2019\u201d No, no, no; I\u2019m going to <em>center <\/em>my life on looking up, as you call it: \u201cGod is going to be the Rock\/the Foundation. I don\u2019t even know what that means at this moment when I do it, but I want to look up and start my approach to life <em>there<\/em>.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat does that look like? What do we do? What happens?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cWhat do I see when I look up?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cYou know, what happens to our mindset when we really understand who God is?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Well, when we look to God, and we put Him <em>first<\/em>, there is going to be a definite change in priorities in our life; you know? And I remember this, when I was a freshman in high school\u2014you know, I was saved as a young child; and I\u2019m thankful that the Lord saved me so young\u2014but I remember being a freshman in high school at a Disciple Now weekend that our church did, you know, with the youth group. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember that particular weekend, coming to the realization: \u201cIf everything that I say I believe about Jesus is true\u2014that He really died for my sins, that He\u2019s been raised from the dead, that He really is King\u2014my life\u2019s going to be different for the rest of my life!\u201d\u2014like\u2014\u201cIf that\u2019s <em>really<\/em> true, I\u2019m not in charge!\u201d I remember coming to that feeling, as a freshman in high school, realizing, \u201cI\u2019ve got to own this for myself. This can\u2019t be my parents\u2019 faith. This can\u2019t just be something I\u2019m going to add on to my life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat has led to different life decisions that would look <em>weird<\/em> to the world\/very strange to the world. We could go into some of them just in my own life\u2014I\u2019m sure you all would have yours as well\u2014where sometimes the Lord asks you to do something that don\u2019t make any sense from a worldly way of thinking; well, that\u2019s because you have a different way <em>of <\/em>thinking.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> You have a different way of looking at the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; it\u2019s interesting, when you said that would look weird or strange to the world, we now know what you mean by \u201cthe world,\u201d\u2014it\u2019s a mindset.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s the sort of a mindset that\u2019s usually: \u201cLook in, look around, look up.\u201d The worldly mindset is like, \u201cWhat is that [in response to a godly mindset]!?\u201d Even a parent might say to his child\u2014like my mom said to me\u2014\u201cWhat are you doing?! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Mine too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cWhy are you giving your life to Jesus?\u201d and \u201cWhy do you want to go into ministry? That\u2019s a waste.\u201d My dad told me, \u201cIt\u2019s an <em>absolute waste <\/em>of your life!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He said to you, Dave, \u201cIt\u2019s a waste of your education\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cand all of your gifts.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cand your gifts.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And my parents were like, \u201cYou\u2019re not going to make any <em>money<\/em>! How will you be happy?\u201d\u2014[Laughter]\u2014which is interesting; isn\u2019t it?\u2014like that connection of money. I mean, money is important; but money isn\u2019t the <em>source<\/em> of our happiness.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. You know, we should all want to live in a way that makes other people: \u201cThat doesn\u2019t make sense,\u201d without Jesus.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; like, \u201cYou\u2019re dumb!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Yes; I\u2019d rather\u2014I mean, that\u2019s the kind of thing\u2014when you\u2019re in conversations with people who don\u2019t know the Lord, that is going to make them ask questions. You know, Peter says to be ready when someone asks a question about the hope that is within you. At some point, we definitely want to have the right answers to people that ask questions. It\u2019s important to do apologetics and, you know, have good answers to questions that people may have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe bigger, more haunting question for me, though, is: \u201cWhat if no one\u2019s asking questions about the hope that is within me, because it looks like my hope is just like everyone else\u2019s hope?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> That\u2019s the <em>bigger<\/em> question that I think we have to wrestle with.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Is our life different?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Is it different?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014in a positive, beautiful way that people want to know\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, yes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014they\u2019re asking questions.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> The people notice; like, \u201cWhoa! Why is he\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, what happened to you?\u2014I mean, you said you were 15. By the way, that\u2019s a revelation for a 15-year-old! Because it\u2019s so look in, at that age, you don\u2019t even consider anything else. But at 15, you were like: \u201cWait, wait, wait! If the resurrection\u2019s true, that means He\u2019s God\u2014He rose from the dead; He\u2019s alive; He\u2019s in charge!\u2014my whole life\u2019s different.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPlay that out! What happened as you went through high school and college? I mean, this is the implication of looking up; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Just one life, but man, it changed everything; in what way?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Well, it definitely gave me a different perspective of what my mission in life was to be about. I immediately began to see myself as, you know, an instrument of God\u2019s purpose in all sorts of different areas. Our church would do mission trips. The very next year\u2014and this was all God\u2019s timing\u2014but the very next year was the first time I went to Romania, which wound up being a country that, when I was 19 years old, I bought a one-way ticket and moved there and lived there for five years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Wait, wait; why? What happened? <em>Why<\/em> would you do that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Looking back, now that I have a junior in high school, I think it took more for my parents\u2019 faith for me to go to Romania than it did for me as a 19-year-old. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> The Lord really gripped my heart with a passion for ministry and missions. I just had this overwhelming sense of calling to steward gifts for a season\/to steward my gifts there. I had gone every year, as a young person, whenever we would have a mission trip. We did medical missions, and evangelistic missions, and things. But then, when I got to that season, where I felt like God was calling me to a Christian university there and to do ministry in the surrounding villages, I needed to learn the language.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was all of those cultural things that I had to learn; but it was very, very strong in my life. I\u2019m thankful that I had parents, who were supportive, even though I know it was hard for them. I was the oldest and \u201c[You\u2019re] going to college <em>where<\/em>?\u201d\u2014you know?\u2014it was one of those things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, God doesn\u2019t call everyone to cross-cultural missions. God doesn\u2019t call everyone to the kinds of things He called me to do, but God has a particular calling for everyone. The question is to constantly be asking yourself: \u201cWhere can I go? What can I do, where the gifts that God has given me will be most exploited for the kingdom of God?\u201d \u201cWhat is it that God wants from me?\u201d \u201cWhere can I be light? Where can I be salt?\u201d \u201cIn what field has He planted me, and how do I plow that field?\u201d\u2014whatever field it may be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThose are questions that we have to ask, as Christians, because the ultimate goal is not that we follow our heart, but that we follow God\u2019s heart for us and for the world. What <em>He<\/em> says to be true takes precedence over how we may view our lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, and what you just explained basically was: \u201cIf you really look up\u201d\u2014and that\u2019s your term; in some ways, it could be \u2018Look down at the Word of God,\u2019 or whatever way you want to say it; in our book, we call it \u2018Go vertical,\u2019\u201d\u2014you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s like: \u201cYour marriage is <em>never<\/em> going to find satisfaction in one another,\u201d\u2014that would be look around or look in. \u201cYou\u2019re only going to find it vertically,\u201d so <em>Vertical Marriage <\/em>means that. You\u2019re saying the same thing: \u201cLook up!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou just explained how it changes everything; because as a 15-year-old, you realized He\u2019s the King; He rose from the dead; it\u2019s real. You now look <em>in <\/em>differently. You explained, just there, \u201cI\u2019m looking in now to say, \u2018What are my gifts? Who has He made me to be? How can I use these to bless others?\u2019\u201d That only comes\u2014right?\u2014from a look up perspective. Is that what happened in your life? Is that what we\u2019re sort of hoping happens with our lives and with our kids?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Well, I think this is a\u2014it has happened, but it\u2019s always <em>still <\/em>happening\u2014right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> It\u2019s a lifelong process.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Sometimes you\u2019ll hear songs or statements in Christian circles, where we\u2019ll say, you know, \u201cI want more of Jesus and less of me.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> And I know what people mean by that is what, you know, John the Baptist was saying.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> \u201cI must decrease; He must increase.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cHe must increase!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014John 3:30; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. In that sense, that\u2019s absolutely true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut there is a sense in which, at the end of time, when God remakes the whole world\u2014and when we are finally, not just sanctified\/made holy, but glorified\u2014where we are the most perfect versions of ourselves that we can be, I am not going to be <em>less <\/em>Trevin. I will be more Trevin; and yet, more like Jesus than ever before. I will be more Christ-like, but in a Trevin-kind of way. Because, you see, Jesus is going to get glory from all of His people, not being clones of Him\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> \u2014but of being like Him\u2014foundationally, at the heart level\u2014but also gloriously unique. Everyone has their own part to play in the symphony that is going to echo God\u2019s praises for all of eternity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And now, we\u2019re talking <em>identity<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Let\u2019s talk about this identity that you\u2019re talking about right now, because you\u2019re getting your identity from Christ alone. What\u2019s different\u2014and that word is so hot right now; we\u2019re all talking about identity in songs, and movies, and everything\u2014what\u2019s the difference?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Well, the world is going to tell you to base your identity in yourself\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> \u2014whatever you think or in your achievements.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014your preferences. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> There are all sorts of things in your life that can become the <em>dominant<\/em> thing that you then say, \u201cThis is who I am inside.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Where Jesus challenges us is that, when you come to Christ, you\u2019re coming to a Savior, who says, \u201cIf you want to follow Me, you have to deny yourself and take up your cross and follow Me. Whoever would find his life must lose it; whoever loses their life is the one who\u2019s gaining their life.\u201d Jesus is turning that way of thinking on its head completely\u2014but He\u2019s not doing so just in the sense of, \u201cWell, I have to deny my identity,\u201d\u2014He\u2019s doing it and saying, \u201cNo, I\u2019m going to give you a new identity. This identity is going to be paramount; it\u2019s going to be prominent. The most important part of you is that you\u2019re redeemed\u2014that you are a child of God\u2014that you belong to His family.\u201d And that identity is one that no one can take away from you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> See, all the other identities can be flexible\/they can be fluid: your achievements can fall away; you can lose possessions; your career\u2014maybe you put your identity in your career\u2014that career could go away; you know, you could lose your job\/there\u2019s an economic downturn; who knows what it might be! But when you have God establishing your identity, then you have something solid\/something substantive that\u2019s going to be there no matter what the circumstances in life are.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and I think it\u2019s <em>so <\/em>critical for us, as believers\u2014married\/many of us parents\u2014that\u2019s why I said, at the beginning; and again, I probably preach this way too much\u2014\u201cWhat you believe\u2014theology\u2014about God, and what you believe about yourself\u2014identity\u2014determines everything.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m thinking, \u201cThis is what I, as a parent\u2014it has to be one of my driving passions\u2014to get this into my son or daughter.\u201d You know, especially as they\u2019re going\u2014you know, 10, 11, 12, or now 14\/15 years old\u2014because they\u2019re listening to other messages and voices, which we all are. I want them to know\u2014and I can\u2019t do it\u2014but I can live it and speak it out in the home, who God really is: \u201cHe did rise from the dead; He is alive; He is present right here, right now,\u201d and \u201cYou are uniquely wired\/created by God,\u201d and \u201cHe has a purpose for your life.\u201d<br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s everything you\u2019re saying and trying to bring it down now to like practical theology. It\u2019s like I\u2019m driving, and I\u2019ve got my son with me; I\u2019ve done this a <em>hundred<\/em> times. I never had this vision of: \u201cI want my boys to be well-rounded,\u201d\u2014which, by the way, is most parents\u2019 vision\u2014\u201cYes, I want them to be well-rounded.\u201d What for?! You know, so they put them in every school activity and every sport. It\u2019s like, \u201cNo! God made them really good at something, or they have a passion about something! You want them singularly focused and good at <em>that<\/em>\u201d; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo as a parent, you\u2019re coming alongside them and going, \u201cDo you know that God made you?\u201d Like our oldest son was a tech guru from day one! We would camp out in the woods behind our house with a tent. CJ would have a VCR\u2014this is how old it was\u2014wired from the house with 18 extension cords. We\u2019d pop in a movie in the middle of the woods. My other sons didn\u2019t do that; they were like, \u201cCJ, how\u2019d you do that?\u201d I don\u2019t even know how he did it; you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, I was like, \u201cIsn\u2019t this <em>defeating<\/em> the purpose? Aren\u2019t we getting <em>away<\/em> from all of that to be in solitude?\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It was in some ways; but the beauty is that, as you raise a son like that\u2014or a daughter, who is artistic\u2014or you name it; it doesn\u2019t matter!\u2014God has <em>made<\/em> that; He has put it in them! That\u2019s part of their identity. I wasn\u2019t trying to say to CJ: \u201cYou need to be an author\u201d; you know? That was not his thing; he reads the encyclopedia for fun! [Laughter] That\u2019s what he does; right? As a parent thinking of this, what you\u2019re saying is, \u201cWhen I\u2019m looking <em>up<\/em> first, I understand who God is; it changes the way I view myself as a parent.\u201d It\u2019s like I want to call that out of my kids!\u2014right? It\u2019s like: \u201cMan, I want to birth in them their identity, created by God,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s where what you\u2019re talking about comes home to the family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, am I saying [what\u2019s] true? Or how would you verse that out?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; because we\u2019re thinking about the 34-year-old mom in her minivan, with the two kids in the backseat. You know, she\u2019s thinking, \u201cHow is this relevant to <em>me<\/em>?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Right; I just gave a mom of a good friend of our oldest son a copy of <em>Rethink Your Self<\/em>, because we were having this very conversation about identity. She was saying, \u201cI don\u2019t want my boys to make some of the same mistakes that I made, growing up,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cwhere I based my identity in something else. It\u2019s not what brings happiness; you know?\u201d I think this is such a critical thing to say, but I love your illustration of calling out what you see in your son. See, that\u2019s different than\u2014it\u2019s so easy for us, as parents, to want to relive our own childhood\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Like calling it in; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Calling it in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014or \u201cThis is what you should do.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; putting it in.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> That\u2019s right; or saying, \u201cOh, because I\u2019m passionate about this, <em>you<\/em> must be passionate about this.\u201d I know this temptation for myself, as someone in ministry. I\u2019ve seen other ministry families, where it\u2019s sort of just assumed, \u201cWell, if you\u2019re the son of a pastor, you\u2019re going to be a pastor.\u201d You shouldn\u2019t put that pressure on a kid!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> You\u2019ve got to see: \u201cWhat has God uniquely wired them to do?\u201d And then want to fan the flames of that, but to do so in a way that it\u2019s connected to God\u2019s bigger purpose for the world. It\u2019s not just about making money; it\u2019s not just about achieving earthly success; but it\u2019s\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And those things <em>aren\u2019t<\/em> wrong;\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Of course not; right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014but if it\u2019s the source of your identity, it will only <em>lead<\/em> to frustration or maybe even unhappiness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> \u2014and disappointment, because none of those things can withstand the weight of our quest for happiness. They just can\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, I want my kids not to be \u201ctrue to themselves\u201d but to be true to their future selves: the self that God is making them; the ideal version\/the Christ-like version that I know is there. God, when He calls them to become Christians\u2014is just like that for all of us\u2014we want to be true to the future person that God is making us to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, when I sin, or when I fail, or when I struggle, I\u2019m not being authentic in that struggle\u2014I\u2019m actually being inauthentic\u2014because my identity is as a child of God. When you come to faith in Christ, God the Father says over you what He says over Jesus in His baptism: \u201cYou are My beloved son\/you are My beloved child. In you, I am well-pleased.\u201d Because we have Christ\u2019s righteousness over us\/because we believe in Jesus Christ, God sees us the way He sees Jesus. That is the foundational identity that we have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> And when we sin, we\u2019re not being more ourselves. We\u2019re actually being less ourselves; we\u2019re being less of the person that God has called us out to be. We\u2019re sinning against that newfound identity, and it\u2019s that identity that has to be prominent in our thinking and in our lives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s so good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Good word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Thanks for being with us today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Trevin:<\/strong> Thank you for having me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Stop and think for just a minute how counter-cultural what Trevin Wax has been sharing with Dave and Ann Wilson is. To live authentically, as a follower of Jesus Christ, that\u2019s going to stand out in this culture. That\u2019s going to cause a lot of people to pull back and scratch their heads and say, \u201cI need to hear from you what it is you\u2019re doing. How do you live like this?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTrevin has written about this subject in a book called <em>Rethink Your Self. <\/em>It\u2019s all about identity. It\u2019s a book that we\u2019re thinking would be good for parents and teens to go through together, or you could engage with your young adults around this subject. We\u2019re making the book available this week to anyone who can help support the ongoing ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today. FamilyLife Today <\/em>is, every day, reaching hundreds of thousands of people with practical biblical help and hope for marriages and families\u2014through this radio program\/this podcast; through our website, FamilyLifeToday.com; our resources; the events we host\u2014all of that comes together to help effectively develop godly marriages and families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe believe godly marriages and families can change the world one home at a time. If you would help us with a donation to increase the impact\u2014to help us reach more people, more often, with practical biblical help and hope for their marriages and their families\u2014we\u2019d love to send you, as a thank-you gift, a copy of Trevin Wax\u2019s book, <em>Rethink Your Self<\/em>. You can donate online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to donate. Again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-358-6329; 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d And thank you, in advance, for your financial support.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we want to talk about how you find God, and His purposes and His glory, in the midst of the mundane\/the ordinary stuff of life. How can you have that kind of a God-centered focus on all that\u2019s happening in your marriage and your family? Courtney Reissig is going to join us to talk about that. 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