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Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition, Friday, May 28<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I\u2019m Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. I\u2019ve probably said something like that about 7,000 times. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014at least. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I was doing the math on that, so that\u2019s the last one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We are\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And you\u2019re laughing about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m crying; Bob\u2019s laughing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014we are back to where we started this week\u2014to everything there is a season and a time for every purpose under heaven. This is that time. This is the last time I\u2019ll be on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> as a co-host with you guys. You guys will take it from here, and you\u2019ll do great. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve been spending time this week just reflecting on some of the big lessons I\u2019ve learned in 28 years of being the co-host on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, first with Dennis Rainey and then with the two of you over the last couple of years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Do we need to learn to say, \u201cWelcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You can start however you want. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cwith Bob Lepine\u201d? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You guys just keep talking. I\u2019m going to blow my nose. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Ann\u2019s over here <em>crying<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I am. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I don\u2019t want to trivialize this; because I know we\u2019ve had\/with listeners, you build a relationship through the years. I\u2019ve met people, who have graciously said the program has made a difference in their lives\/God has used it in their lives. It\u2019s been a privilege to get to do what I\u2019ve gotten to do over the last 28 years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Bob, you have marked all of us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and you\u2019re <em>really<\/em> good at what you do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re faithfulness to Jesus just pours out of you. Your desire and love for God\u2019s Word, and theology, and the family have shifted a generation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well,\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014it has been a joy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat\u2019s been good for me has been all of the people, who have poured into me over the years\u2014the past 28 years\u2014guests we\u2019ve had on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We\u2019ve talked this week about marriage principles I\u2019ve learned, parenting principles I\u2019ve learned, the differences between men and women, things I\u2019ve learned from Dennis Rainey. Now, I\u2019m just going to catch up today with a mixed bag of some of those things: I\u2019ve quoted these things to people, over and over again, since I heard them the first time on a <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> program. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBack in the first year we were on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, we did an interview with our friend, Gary Rosberg. Gary and Barbara were speaking at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaways with us. Gary had just written a book at resolving conflict, where his whole idea was you\u2019ve got to close the loop: \u201cWhen there is an open loop, you\u2019ve got to close the loop.\u201d Do you remember this? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, yes; I remember that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What came up in that conversation was the priority of pursuing peace when there is conflict. I would tend to be a conflict avoider; and talking with Gary that day, he brought to the forefront Romans 12:18. Here is our conversation with Gary from back in 1993. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Gary:<\/strong> You know, Paul put one sentence in Scripture that I grab onto; and that sentence says: \u201cAs far as it depends upon you, whenever possible\u201d\u2014I mean, he gives us two caveats there\u2014\u201cAs much as it depends upon you, whenever possible, be at peace with everyone.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor some of the listeners, they may be sitting back in abusive situations, in situations where another person doesn\u2019t want to move toward restoration. We cannot control another person; but what we can do is choose, in our own relationship with Christ, to receive God\u2019s forgiveness and then, secondly, to forgive ourselves and then do what we can, as much as we can, to step up to the plate to try to open up the restoration of the relationship with the other person. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Just a quick moment with Gary Rosberg, but it was so powerful for me\u2014the priority of pursuing peace and the necessity of forgiveness and reconciliation in relationships\u2014not just in marriage; and it does start in marriage, but all relationships\u2014extended family relationships, where there has been a fractured relationship. The onus is on us. If there is a fractured relationship, the onus is: \u201cHave I done everything I can to pursue peace?\u201d Sometimes, it\u2019s not possible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, I was going to say, \u201cSometimes, it doesn\u2019t work out on their side; but if you can sit before God and say, \u2018I\u2019ve done everything I can do,\u2019 then you can live at peace.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You can actually go to sleep and be in peace. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Those two caveats\u2014\u201cif possible,\u201d \u201cas much as it depends on you\u201d\u2014that\u2019s your responsibility. If you\u2019ve done that, like you said, you can be at peace. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe had another early conversation with Jim Elliff, who had written a short book on childhood conversion: kids making an early profession of faith in Christ. What should we think about that when your child, at age four, says, \u201cI want to ask Jesus into my heart,\u201d and you pray a prayer with them. Do you then go, \u201cOkay, this is settled in heaven,\u201d or \u201cHow do you think about that?\u201d I asked him in the interview: \u201cWhat should we do, as parents, if our child makes an early profession? How do we respond to that?\u201d Here is how that conversation went. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> In the history of Christendom\u2014it was always believed that children could be converted\u2014but it was not always accepted that we could know if children are converted until a later age when their faith was tested so that they could see if what they had was genuine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As a parent, should I be hoping for leading my child in praying the kind of prayer that we\u2019ve all been taught we should teach a child to pray? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Well, I think we can improve the way we communicate with God by being a little bit more biblical when talking about repentance and faith; that\u2019s one thing. But I think that we should, in fact, encourage our children to pray and to talk to God about this repentance and faith. They might deal with that many times before they know if they\u2019ve actually been converted. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re actually talking about prayer being the expression of a heart attitude. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Sometimes, we get into a rut of thinking that a prayer expresses a heart attitude that isn\u2019t there\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014that a child isn\u2019t repenting and believing\u2014that the child is merely reading a prayer or saying a prayer because Mommy or Daddy or Grandma or Grandpa want him or her to say a prayer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. We formularize this idea of Christianity into a prayer. If we can say this prayer, then it\u2019s like putting money in a vending machine; and God has to give us eternal life. I contend that there are many, many millions of people, who prayed a perfectly-worded prayer that they found written some place or has been given to them by somebody else; but don\u2019t know Christ at all and are on the way to hell. Unfortunately, the emphasis\/the wrong emphasis on that issue has deceived many. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, how was that; huh? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Isn\u2019t that interesting? I\u2019m just thinking of all the conversations of parents that I\u2019ve had come up to me, when their child maybe has turned, and they are rebelling; but they feel very much assured because they\u2019ll say, \u201cBut my son prayed a prayer when he was three.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019ll ask the question, \u201cAre you seeing fruit of that prayer?\u201d I think, as parents, we\u2019re desperate for hope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; and I want to make sure parents\u2014as they hear this\u2014I want to make sure they understand, \u201cAnything your child does that\u2019s positive spiritually\/that is moving in the right direction, affirm that, cheer that on, celebrate that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But keep looking for evidence of conversion\/evidence of change\u2014not perfection\u2014not that your child is <em>never<\/em> going to sin again. Of course, he is going to sin again; you do. But keep looking for there to be evidence of a living, active relationship with Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn those times when your child sins, and you go, \u201cI wonder if he is really saved or not,\u201d share the gospel with your child. In those times when you sin, share the gospel with yourself. We keep coming back to the gospel; we need to keep <em>believing<\/em> the gospel over and over again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOkay; here is a <em>great<\/em> story. We did an interview with Dr. Robertson McQuilkin, who was the president of Columbia Bible College and Seminary in Columbia, South Carolina. In 1992, he stepped down from that role to go home and take care of his wife Muriel, who had Alzheimer\u2019s disease. I remember the speech he made when he stepped down. He said, \u201cIt\u2019s not that I have to; it\u2019s that I get to. She\u2019s made my life possible. I get to care for her. It\u2019s a delight to care for her.\u201d It was such a powerful picture of covenant love. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe came [to FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>]. We talked about that decision, and about caring for Muriel, and about his life. She was still alive at this point; but he told a story about, back before she had started showing signs of Alzheimer\u2019s, a conversation they had. He was trying to explain to her why she was just not thinking correctly. Here is how the conversation went. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robertson:<\/strong> I think you\u2019re referring to the time we were, in the evening, in bed, discussing some earth-shaking theme, which I do not remember. I was just demolishing her arguments with superb logic. [Laughter] But she didn\u2019t wait for any sympathy or pity. She just reared up on one elbow and flashed those green eyes at me; and she said, \u201cWell, let me tell you something! Logic is not everything, and feeling is not <em>nothing<\/em>.\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I heard that, and I thought, \u201cHow many times have I tried to logically explain to my wife why what she\u2019s feeling just does not make sense?\u201d I\u2019ve been rebuked by that statement many times: \u201cLogic is not everything, and feelings aren\u2019t <em>nothing<\/em>.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere was another time like that when Pastor Tommy Nelson; you know Tommy. Tommy is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014a pastor at Denton Bible Church in Denton, Texas. Tommy had been getting ready to preach through the book of Romans at his church. They were going to video tape it\/put out the video series. This was a big deal. He said, \u201cIf I can do this, I can die a happy man.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019d been burning the candle at both ends to get this ready. His wife came in one day to talk to him, and he was unresponsive. He was awake and functioning, but he just could not respond to her\u2014took him to the hospital\u2014they thought it was, maybe, a stroke. The doctors checked him out\/said, \u201cHe is fine.\u201d It was only later that a doctor said, \u201cYou are depressed.\u201d He goes, \u201cI\u2019m not depressed! I love what I do.\u201d The doctor said, \u201cNo, you\u2019re depressed; because you have not been resting the way you should.\u201d Here is how he tells the story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Broadcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> I struggled with elation more than depression. I just <em>loved<\/em> what I was doing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How many hours a night did you sleep? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> I would go to bed. I would crash at about 10\/10:30\u2014then I was <em>always<\/em> up at 5\u2014never would I sleep much after 5. Usually, I would get up at about 4 because I was excited about that day because at 6 I got to handle the Word with 40 top guys. At 6, I would take off and teach until 7. Then I would usually go and answer email. Then I would go work out. Then I would come back and take a nap in the afternoon; and then, you know, get ready for a weekend conference. Head off on a Friday, hit and do three times Friday night, three times Saturday morning; come back four times on Sunday on preaching\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Whew! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> \u2014get up and go 6 a.m. I <em>loved<\/em> it just because\u2014the idea of the gospel\u2014being expended for the gospel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s what I\u2019m trying to ask, \u201cAm I hearing you right?\u2014because I\u2019m hearing you say, \u2018This came on me,\u2019 but I\u2019m also hearing you say, \u2018I brought this on me.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> I can look in retrospect and see three years before it was continual putting myself in unrelenting pushing without any rest; but it did hit me, literally, in a moment. My body said, \u201cThat is all.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It doesn\u2019t sound like there were a lot of Sabbaths in your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> Oh, no; there were no Sabbaths. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Tommy, forgive me; because I don\u2019t want to simplify or quickly spiritualize, but there is a message that you\u2019ve just sent a lot of people. There is a reason for Sabbath rest. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You need to honor what God told us to honor in the Ten Commandments, setting a part a day and honoring Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I remember I <em>needed<\/em> to hear that that day, because my tendency is going to be just keep going and keep going fast. Then I played it for you today\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh! Did you play that for us on purpose? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014for the two of you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s for us! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; because you guys lean into activity, and stay busy, and all of that. Here is a cautionary tale from one of our brothers, who has gone before us, that says, \u201cCarve out the time. Get the rest. Refresh your body and soul and don\u2019t keep going, going, going.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, it was convicting to me; because I <em>never<\/em> sit; I always go. Not only is there work; but there are kids, and there are grandkids. I\u2019m always trying to meet everyone\u2019s needs. Actually, before we came to record, I remember thinking, \u201cI am not feeling good at all this week. I don\u2019t think I\u2019ve had anything to drink today.\u201d That\u2019s what I thought one day\u2014you know, of just taking care of our bodies and our spirit\u2014that\u2019s really important. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and rest. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> God said, \u201cYou need rest.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That Sabbath is huge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It is huge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You need it, too, Bob, as you go on to your endeavor. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m with you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You are a doer and a goer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One other thing Tommy said\u2014this was in another setting\/another conference situation\u2014I heard him say this. I\u2019ve quoted this to single people over and over again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I have, too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> He said, \u201cThis is your job if you are a single person\u2026\u201d Listen to what he says. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> One of the great words I ever heard on marriage\u2014whenever you pick a mate, here\u2019s the way you do it\u2014you run as fast as you can for Jesus Christ, commit your life to Him, love Him, sell out to Him, devote to Him; and you run as fast as you can, and you look on your right and left and see who is running the same speed; and you just wave at them. [Laughter] If they stay up with you, after a while, you say, \u201cCome on over!\u201d; and you run together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>What I wanted to do was win people to Christ; what my wife wanted to do was win people to Christ. She wanted to spend her life in the sharing of the gospel; I wanted to do in the sharing of the gospel. She wanted to bring kids to the Lord; I wanted to have children that loved the Lord. She wanted a Christian home; I wanted that. We just said, \u201cHeck, let\u2019s do it together\u201d; and we did it together. That\u2019s the way you get married. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You run as hard and as fast toward Jesus; and if you see somebody running in the same direction, at the same speed, take a second look; say, \u201cCome on over!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cYou just wave at them.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I love that! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Classic. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We\u2019ve used that so many times, but it\u2019s because it\u2019s so good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It is so good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, on the subject of singleness, we had a conversation with Elisabeth Elliot. I\u2019ve never forgotten this; she was talking about the <em>gift<\/em> of singleness. She said, \u201cEvery single person wants to know, \u2018Gee, do I have the gift of singleness?\u2019\u201d Here is how she explained it; this was so good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Broadcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong> Women will often say to me, \u201cI just know that I don\u2019t have the gift of singleness. I just know I am supposed to be married; I\u2019m so maternal; I just feel that God wants to give me a husband, and family, and all this.\u201d I say to them, \u201cWell, today is Saturday. Are you single?\u201d \u201cYes.\u201d \u201cThen you have the gift of singleness on this particular Saturday. You must learn to glorify God in the situation where God has assigned you.\u201d I go back to Psalm 16:5: \u201cYou have assigned me my portion.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Isn\u2019t that genius? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Classic. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Do you have the gift of singleness? If you are single, you have the gift of singleness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> She said a lot of people will say, \u201cBut I want to know if I have it like forever.\u201d She would say to them, \u201cI don\u2019t know! [Laughter] Nobody knows whether you have it forever. What we know is you have it <em>today<\/em>.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s really tied to another principle she shared that I\u2019ve never forgotten when her first husband, Jim Elliot, was martyred in 1956. She\u2019s a new mom, living in Quito, Ecuador. I said, \u201cHow\/weren\u2019t you overwhelmed by \u2018What am I going to do?\u2019\u201d She said, \u201cI learned a very important principle; and that is, do the next thing. Don\u2019t be overwhelmed by \u2018What\u2019s next week going to look like?\u2019 Do the next thing.\u201d It\u2019s what Jesus said when He said, \u201cTomorrow has enough troubles of its own. Just be focused on today.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, Bob, let me ask you this; because I\u2019m sure listeners are wondering: \u201cWhat is the next thing for Bob Lepine?\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The next thing for me is to get a little rest. I mean, I\u2019m staying connected to\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014to FamilyLife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m going to be more focused and more intentional with our local church, where I have been pastoring now for 13 years, and a little more time with kids and grandkids. We\u2019re looking forward to that. We\u2019re excited about this chapter, and where we are headed, and where God has us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the last 28 years have been a joy; they\u2019ve been a privilege. We\u2019ve tried to sum up, this week, what have been some of the highlights. I hope listeners\u2014as they have a chance to go back and listen to this, and just refresh themselves with these truths that have lived with me now over the last 28 years\u2014I hope they\u2019ve been\/I hope that\u2019s been helpful for them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI need to say here: \u201cNobody does this alone.\u201d This radio program is not something that I\u2019ve made happen. There is a team here at FamilyLife\u2014you know this\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014a <em>great<\/em> team. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Great team. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And some of the teammates, who have been a part of this team, have been at this for more than 25 years. I mean, you stop and think: we started <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> in 1992. We\u2019ve got colleagues here who have been with us since, essentially, the beginning of the program: people like Christy Bain, who has been my administrative assistant for all of those 28 years. This program is as much a labor of her work as it is my work. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tonda Nations, who is continuing to do the research, and the guest interaction\u2014getting things ready for us\u2014she\u2019s going to continue at that. She\u2019s been with us from the beginning; she\u2019s been <em>amazing<\/em>. Then everyday, as I\u2019ve ended the program and said, \u201cI want to thank our engineer, Keith Lynch,\u201d\u2014Keith has been across the glass for a quarter of a century doing this. It\u2019s unusual\u2014you know this\u2014for people to be at something like this\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014that long. Listeners may know my voice and have heard me say things; but I\u2019ve been enabled, and set up, and prepared for what I do\/helped along by people like Tonda, and Christy, and Keith, and so many others whose names I could mention. It\u2019s been a privilege and a great ride. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m excited about what God has as you guys move forward with this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, I don\u2019t know what to say besides, \u201cThank you.\u201d I\u2019m looking over there at Keith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I know what to say. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Keith loves Jesus; you love Jesus\u2014all those people you mentioned\u2014they love Jesus. They love the listener\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014who, often, we don\u2019t even get to meet. We love you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s kind of what I was going to say. As you listen to a radio or a podcast, you always wonder [emotion in voice]: \u201cIs it real? What they are talking about\u2014are they living it?\u201d \u201cDo they love Jesus the way they talk about Him?\u201d and \u201cDoes their life reflect the principles that they have been teaching?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob, you do; you are the real deal. Everyone that you mentioned is, too. Your integrity, your faithfulness, your love for Mary Ann, your wife, and your kids\u2014it spills all over, and your love for Jesus is foremost. I think that\u2019s why we all trust you\u2014we trust your voice; we trust your life\u2014and you have blessed us immensely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ve really mentored Dave and [me]. We can\u2019t thank you enough for your faithfulness to God, to us, to this team, and to your family. You are pretty amazing, and we really love you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, you guys know how thrilled I am at what God has in store for <em>you<\/em> and for the future of this; and I\u2019ll be listening. I\u2019ll send you emails and say, \u201cYou should have asked this question\u2026\u201d [Laughter] \u201cWhy didn\u2019t you ask\u2026\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I hope so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Sure you will! Yes, we\u2019ll need it. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Ann:<\/strong> We will. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let me just pray for you guys as we close this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFather, thank You for Dave and Ann, for the way You have gifted them, for their passion for You, their desire to see others come to know You and live as faithful followers of Your Son Jesus. I pray Your blessing on them and on this program, on this team as things move forward. Lord, keep Your hand on this program. Keep using it in the lives of so many people every day. We ask it in Jesus\u2019s name. Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs we wrap things up today, I want to remind you that all of the things we\u2019ve talked about this week\u2014the 28 principles that we\u2019ve gone through\u2014these conversations we\u2019re making available on a flash drive, along with the original programs from which those ideas came through the years. That flash drive is available to those of you who can make a donation to support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, going forward. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYour donation today is going to be matched dollar for dollar. We\u2019re getting down to the wire. This matching-gift fund that has been made available to us through the month of May goes away pretty soon. In order for us to take full advantage of the fund, we need to hear from you today. In addition to the flash drive, we\u2019re going to send you a couple of books from Aaron and Jamie Ivey about marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd those of you who can join us as monthly Legacy Partners, and help support the ministry on an ongoing basis, in addition to the flash drive and the books, we\u2019re going to send <em>you<\/em> a certificate to attend an upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaway, either this spring or into the fall as the getaways start up again; we\u2019re excited about that. Your donations over the next 12 months are going to be matched, dollar for dollar, as long as there is money available in that matching-gift fund. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can become a Legacy Partner today, or make a one-time donation, go to FamilyLifeToday.com to donate; or call 1-800-358-6329; 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d Extend the reach of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> through your giving. Thanks, in advance, for whatever you\u2019re able to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA final word of thanks here to you as listeners: the time we have spent together, over the last 28 years, has been meaningful for me. I hope it\u2019s been meaningful for you as well, and I will miss the regular connection with you. Thanks for the kind notes you\u2019ve sent through the years. Thanks for the suggestions we\u2019ve gotten from you through the years; those have been helpful as well. I am confident that the best years are ahead for <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith that, we\u2019ve got to wrap things up for this week. Thanks for joining us. I hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this weekend. I hope you have a refreshing weekend, and I hope you can tune in Monday. Dave and Ann are going to talk with Levi and Jennie Lusko. They are going to share about a critical moment in their family\u2019s life. I won\u2019t go into all the details now, but it\u2019s a powerful story. I hope you can tune in on Memorial Day for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, who has been a great friend and a trusted companion over the years. Also, I want to thank Bruce Goff, who added some help today, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition, Friday, May 28<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I\u2019m Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. I\u2019ve probably said something like that about 7,000 times. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014at least. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I was doing the math on that, so that\u2019s the last one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh! 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I\u2019m going to blow my nose. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Ann\u2019s over here <em>crying<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I am. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I don\u2019t want to trivialize this; because I know we\u2019ve had\/with listeners, you build a relationship through the years. I\u2019ve met people, who have graciously said the program has made a difference in their lives\/God has used it in their lives. It\u2019s been a privilege to get to do what I\u2019ve gotten to do over the last 28 years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Bob, you have marked all of us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and you\u2019re <em>really<\/em> good at what you do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re faithfulness to Jesus just pours out of you. Your desire and love for God\u2019s Word, and theology, and the family have shifted a generation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well,\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014it has been a joy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat\u2019s been good for me has been all of the people, who have poured into me over the years\u2014the past 28 years\u2014guests we\u2019ve had on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We\u2019ve talked this week about marriage principles I\u2019ve learned, parenting principles I\u2019ve learned, the differences between men and women, things I\u2019ve learned from Dennis Rainey. Now, I\u2019m just going to catch up today with a mixed bag of some of those things: I\u2019ve quoted these things to people, over and over again, since I heard them the first time on a <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> program. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBack in the first year we were on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, we did an interview with our friend, Gary Rosberg. Gary and Barbara were speaking at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaways with us. Gary had just written a book at resolving conflict, where his whole idea was you\u2019ve got to close the loop: \u201cWhen there is an open loop, you\u2019ve got to close the loop.\u201d Do you remember this? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, yes; I remember that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What came up in that conversation was the priority of pursuing peace when there is conflict. I would tend to be a conflict avoider; and talking with Gary that day, he brought to the forefront Romans 12:18. Here is our conversation with Gary from back in 1993. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Gary:<\/strong> You know, Paul put one sentence in Scripture that I grab onto; and that sentence says: \u201cAs far as it depends upon you, whenever possible\u201d\u2014I mean, he gives us two caveats there\u2014\u201cAs much as it depends upon you, whenever possible, be at peace with everyone.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor some of the listeners, they may be sitting back in abusive situations, in situations where another person doesn\u2019t want to move toward restoration. We cannot control another person; but what we can do is choose, in our own relationship with Christ, to receive God\u2019s forgiveness and then, secondly, to forgive ourselves and then do what we can, as much as we can, to step up to the plate to try to open up the restoration of the relationship with the other person. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Just a quick moment with Gary Rosberg, but it was so powerful for me\u2014the priority of pursuing peace and the necessity of forgiveness and reconciliation in relationships\u2014not just in marriage; and it does start in marriage, but all relationships\u2014extended family relationships, where there has been a fractured relationship. The onus is on us. If there is a fractured relationship, the onus is: \u201cHave I done everything I can to pursue peace?\u201d Sometimes, it\u2019s not possible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes, I was going to say, \u201cSometimes, it doesn\u2019t work out on their side; but if you can sit before God and say, \u2018I\u2019ve done everything I can do,\u2019 then you can live at peace.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You can actually go to sleep and be in peace. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Those two caveats\u2014\u201cif possible,\u201d \u201cas much as it depends on you\u201d\u2014that\u2019s your responsibility. If you\u2019ve done that, like you said, you can be at peace. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe had another early conversation with Jim Elliff, who had written a short book on childhood conversion: kids making an early profession of faith in Christ. What should we think about that when your child, at age four, says, \u201cI want to ask Jesus into my heart,\u201d and you pray a prayer with them. Do you then go, \u201cOkay, this is settled in heaven,\u201d or \u201cHow do you think about that?\u201d I asked him in the interview: \u201cWhat should we do, as parents, if our child makes an early profession? How do we respond to that?\u201d Here is how that conversation went. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> In the history of Christendom\u2014it was always believed that children could be converted\u2014but it was not always accepted that we could know if children are converted until a later age when their faith was tested so that they could see if what they had was genuine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As a parent, should I be hoping for leading my child in praying the kind of prayer that we\u2019ve all been taught we should teach a child to pray? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Well, I think we can improve the way we communicate with God by being a little bit more biblical when talking about repentance and faith; that\u2019s one thing. But I think that we should, in fact, encourage our children to pray and to talk to God about this repentance and faith. They might deal with that many times before they know if they\u2019ve actually been converted. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re actually talking about prayer being the expression of a heart attitude. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Sometimes, we get into a rut of thinking that a prayer expresses a heart attitude that isn\u2019t there\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014that a child isn\u2019t repenting and believing\u2014that the child is merely reading a prayer or saying a prayer because Mommy or Daddy or Grandma or Grandpa want him or her to say a prayer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jim:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. We formularize this idea of Christianity into a prayer. If we can say this prayer, then it\u2019s like putting money in a vending machine; and God has to give us eternal life. I contend that there are many, many millions of people, who prayed a perfectly-worded prayer that they found written some place or has been given to them by somebody else; but don\u2019t know Christ at all and are on the way to hell. Unfortunately, the emphasis\/the wrong emphasis on that issue has deceived many. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, how was that; huh? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Isn\u2019t that interesting? I\u2019m just thinking of all the conversations of parents that I\u2019ve had come up to me, when their child maybe has turned, and they are rebelling; but they feel very much assured because they\u2019ll say, \u201cBut my son prayed a prayer when he was three.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019ll ask the question, \u201cAre you seeing fruit of that prayer?\u201d I think, as parents, we\u2019re desperate for hope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; and I want to make sure parents\u2014as they hear this\u2014I want to make sure they understand, \u201cAnything your child does that\u2019s positive spiritually\/that is moving in the right direction, affirm that, cheer that on, celebrate that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But keep looking for evidence of conversion\/evidence of change\u2014not perfection\u2014not that your child is <em>never<\/em> going to sin again. Of course, he is going to sin again; you do. But keep looking for there to be evidence of a living, active relationship with Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn those times when your child sins, and you go, \u201cI wonder if he is really saved or not,\u201d share the gospel with your child. In those times when you sin, share the gospel with yourself. We keep coming back to the gospel; we need to keep <em>believing<\/em> the gospel over and over again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOkay; here is a <em>great<\/em> story. We did an interview with Dr. Robertson McQuilkin, who was the president of Columbia Bible College and Seminary in Columbia, South Carolina. In 1992, he stepped down from that role to go home and take care of his wife Muriel, who had Alzheimer\u2019s disease. I remember the speech he made when he stepped down. He said, \u201cIt\u2019s not that I have to; it\u2019s that I get to. She\u2019s made my life possible. I get to care for her. It\u2019s a delight to care for her.\u201d It was such a powerful picture of covenant love. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe came [to FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>]. We talked about that decision, and about caring for Muriel, and about his life. She was still alive at this point; but he told a story about, back before she had started showing signs of Alzheimer\u2019s, a conversation they had. He was trying to explain to her why she was just not thinking correctly. Here is how the conversation went. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robertson:<\/strong> I think you\u2019re referring to the time we were, in the evening, in bed, discussing some earth-shaking theme, which I do not remember. I was just demolishing her arguments with superb logic. [Laughter] But she didn\u2019t wait for any sympathy or pity. She just reared up on one elbow and flashed those green eyes at me; and she said, \u201cWell, let me tell you something! Logic is not everything, and feeling is not <em>nothing<\/em>.\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I heard that, and I thought, \u201cHow many times have I tried to logically explain to my wife why what she\u2019s feeling just does not make sense?\u201d I\u2019ve been rebuked by that statement many times: \u201cLogic is not everything, and feelings aren\u2019t <em>nothing<\/em>.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere was another time like that when Pastor Tommy Nelson; you know Tommy. Tommy is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014a pastor at Denton Bible Church in Denton, Texas. Tommy had been getting ready to preach through the book of Romans at his church. They were going to video tape it\/put out the video series. This was a big deal. He said, \u201cIf I can do this, I can die a happy man.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019d been burning the candle at both ends to get this ready. His wife came in one day to talk to him, and he was unresponsive. He was awake and functioning, but he just could not respond to her\u2014took him to the hospital\u2014they thought it was, maybe, a stroke. The doctors checked him out\/said, \u201cHe is fine.\u201d It was only later that a doctor said, \u201cYou are depressed.\u201d He goes, \u201cI\u2019m not depressed! I love what I do.\u201d The doctor said, \u201cNo, you\u2019re depressed; because you have not been resting the way you should.\u201d Here is how he tells the story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Broadcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> I struggled with elation more than depression. I just <em>loved<\/em> what I was doing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How many hours a night did you sleep? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> I would go to bed. I would crash at about 10\/10:30\u2014then I was <em>always<\/em> up at 5\u2014never would I sleep much after 5. Usually, I would get up at about 4 because I was excited about that day because at 6 I got to handle the Word with 40 top guys. At 6, I would take off and teach until 7. Then I would usually go and answer email. Then I would go work out. Then I would come back and take a nap in the afternoon; and then, you know, get ready for a weekend conference. Head off on a Friday, hit and do three times Friday night, three times Saturday morning; come back four times on Sunday on preaching\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Whew! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> \u2014get up and go 6 a.m. I <em>loved<\/em> it just because\u2014the idea of the gospel\u2014being expended for the gospel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s what I\u2019m trying to ask, \u201cAm I hearing you right?\u2014because I\u2019m hearing you say, \u2018This came on me,\u2019 but I\u2019m also hearing you say, \u2018I brought this on me.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> I can look in retrospect and see three years before it was continual putting myself in unrelenting pushing without any rest; but it did hit me, literally, in a moment. My body said, \u201cThat is all.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It doesn\u2019t sound like there were a lot of Sabbaths in your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> Oh, no; there were no Sabbaths. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Tommy, forgive me; because I don\u2019t want to simplify or quickly spiritualize, but there is a message that you\u2019ve just sent a lot of people. There is a reason for Sabbath rest. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You need to honor what God told us to honor in the Ten Commandments, setting a part a day and honoring Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I remember I <em>needed<\/em> to hear that that day, because my tendency is going to be just keep going and keep going fast. Then I played it for you today\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh! Did you play that for us on purpose? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014for the two of you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s for us! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; because you guys lean into activity, and stay busy, and all of that. Here is a cautionary tale from one of our brothers, who has gone before us, that says, \u201cCarve out the time. Get the rest. Refresh your body and soul and don\u2019t keep going, going, going.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, it was convicting to me; because I <em>never<\/em> sit; I always go. Not only is there work; but there are kids, and there are grandkids. I\u2019m always trying to meet everyone\u2019s needs. Actually, before we came to record, I remember thinking, \u201cI am not feeling good at all this week. I don\u2019t think I\u2019ve had anything to drink today.\u201d That\u2019s what I thought one day\u2014you know, of just taking care of our bodies and our spirit\u2014that\u2019s really important. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and rest. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> God said, \u201cYou need rest.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That Sabbath is huge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It is huge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You need it, too, Bob, as you go on to your endeavor. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m with you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You are a doer and a goer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One other thing Tommy said\u2014this was in another setting\/another conference situation\u2014I heard him say this. I\u2019ve quoted this to single people over and over again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I have, too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> He said, \u201cThis is your job if you are a single person\u2026\u201d Listen to what he says. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tommy:<\/strong> One of the great words I ever heard on marriage\u2014whenever you pick a mate, here\u2019s the way you do it\u2014you run as fast as you can for Jesus Christ, commit your life to Him, love Him, sell out to Him, devote to Him; and you run as fast as you can, and you look on your right and left and see who is running the same speed; and you just wave at them. [Laughter] If they stay up with you, after a while, you say, \u201cCome on over!\u201d; and you run together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>What I wanted to do was win people to Christ; what my wife wanted to do was win people to Christ. She wanted to spend her life in the sharing of the gospel; I wanted to do in the sharing of the gospel. She wanted to bring kids to the Lord; I wanted to have children that loved the Lord. She wanted a Christian home; I wanted that. We just said, \u201cHeck, let\u2019s do it together\u201d; and we did it together. That\u2019s the way you get married. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You run as hard and as fast toward Jesus; and if you see somebody running in the same direction, at the same speed, take a second look; say, \u201cCome on over!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cYou just wave at them.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I love that! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Classic. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We\u2019ve used that so many times, but it\u2019s because it\u2019s so good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It is so good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, on the subject of singleness, we had a conversation with Elisabeth Elliot. I\u2019ve never forgotten this; she was talking about the <em>gift<\/em> of singleness. She said, \u201cEvery single person wants to know, \u2018Gee, do I have the gift of singleness?\u2019\u201d Here is how she explained it; this was so good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Broadcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elisabeth:<\/strong> Women will often say to me, \u201cI just know that I don\u2019t have the gift of singleness. I just know I am supposed to be married; I\u2019m so maternal; I just feel that God wants to give me a husband, and family, and all this.\u201d I say to them, \u201cWell, today is Saturday. Are you single?\u201d \u201cYes.\u201d \u201cThen you have the gift of singleness on this particular Saturday. You must learn to glorify God in the situation where God has assigned you.\u201d I go back to Psalm 16:5: \u201cYou have assigned me my portion.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Isn\u2019t that genius? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Classic. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Do you have the gift of singleness? If you are single, you have the gift of singleness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> She said a lot of people will say, \u201cBut I want to know if I have it like forever.\u201d She would say to them, \u201cI don\u2019t know! [Laughter] Nobody knows whether you have it forever. What we know is you have it <em>today<\/em>.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s really tied to another principle she shared that I\u2019ve never forgotten when her first husband, Jim Elliot, was martyred in 1956. She\u2019s a new mom, living in Quito, Ecuador. I said, \u201cHow\/weren\u2019t you overwhelmed by \u2018What am I going to do?\u2019\u201d She said, \u201cI learned a very important principle; and that is, do the next thing. Don\u2019t be overwhelmed by \u2018What\u2019s next week going to look like?\u2019 Do the next thing.\u201d It\u2019s what Jesus said when He said, \u201cTomorrow has enough troubles of its own. Just be focused on today.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, Bob, let me ask you this; because I\u2019m sure listeners are wondering: \u201cWhat is the next thing for Bob Lepine?\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The next thing for me is to get a little rest. I mean, I\u2019m staying connected to\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014to FamilyLife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m going to be more focused and more intentional with our local church, where I have been pastoring now for 13 years, and a little more time with kids and grandkids. We\u2019re looking forward to that. We\u2019re excited about this chapter, and where we are headed, and where God has us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the last 28 years have been a joy; they\u2019ve been a privilege. We\u2019ve tried to sum up, this week, what have been some of the highlights. I hope listeners\u2014as they have a chance to go back and listen to this, and just refresh themselves with these truths that have lived with me now over the last 28 years\u2014I hope they\u2019ve been\/I hope that\u2019s been helpful for them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI need to say here: \u201cNobody does this alone.\u201d This radio program is not something that I\u2019ve made happen. There is a team here at FamilyLife\u2014you know this\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014a <em>great<\/em> team. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Great team. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And some of the teammates, who have been a part of this team, have been at this for more than 25 years. I mean, you stop and think: we started <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> in 1992. We\u2019ve got colleagues here who have been with us since, essentially, the beginning of the program: people like Christy Bain, who has been my administrative assistant for all of those 28 years. This program is as much a labor of her work as it is my work. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tonda Nations, who is continuing to do the research, and the guest interaction\u2014getting things ready for us\u2014she\u2019s going to continue at that. She\u2019s been with us from the beginning; she\u2019s been <em>amazing<\/em>. Then everyday, as I\u2019ve ended the program and said, \u201cI want to thank our engineer, Keith Lynch,\u201d\u2014Keith has been across the glass for a quarter of a century doing this. It\u2019s unusual\u2014you know this\u2014for people to be at something like this\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014that long. Listeners may know my voice and have heard me say things; but I\u2019ve been enabled, and set up, and prepared for what I do\/helped along by people like Tonda, and Christy, and Keith, and so many others whose names I could mention. It\u2019s been a privilege and a great ride. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m excited about what God has as you guys move forward with this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, I don\u2019t know what to say besides, \u201cThank you.\u201d I\u2019m looking over there at Keith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I know what to say. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Keith loves Jesus; you love Jesus\u2014all those people you mentioned\u2014they love Jesus. They love the listener\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014who, often, we don\u2019t even get to meet. We love you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s kind of what I was going to say. As you listen to a radio or a podcast, you always wonder [emotion in voice]: \u201cIs it real? What they are talking about\u2014are they living it?\u201d \u201cDo they love Jesus the way they talk about Him?\u201d and \u201cDoes their life reflect the principles that they have been teaching?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob, you do; you are the real deal. Everyone that you mentioned is, too. Your integrity, your faithfulness, your love for Mary Ann, your wife, and your kids\u2014it spills all over, and your love for Jesus is foremost. I think that\u2019s why we all trust you\u2014we trust your voice; we trust your life\u2014and you have blessed us immensely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ve really mentored Dave and [me]. We can\u2019t thank you enough for your faithfulness to God, to us, to this team, and to your family. You are pretty amazing, and we really love you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, you guys know how thrilled I am at what God has in store for <em>you<\/em> and for the future of this; and I\u2019ll be listening. I\u2019ll send you emails and say, \u201cYou should have asked this question\u2026\u201d [Laughter] \u201cWhy didn\u2019t you ask\u2026\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I hope so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Sure you will! Yes, we\u2019ll need it. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Ann:<\/strong> We will. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let me just pray for you guys as we close this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFather, thank You for Dave and Ann, for the way You have gifted them, for their passion for You, their desire to see others come to know You and live as faithful followers of Your Son Jesus. I pray Your blessing on them and on this program, on this team as things move forward. Lord, keep Your hand on this program. Keep using it in the lives of so many people every day. We ask it in Jesus\u2019s name. Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs we wrap things up today, I want to remind you that all of the things we\u2019ve talked about this week\u2014the 28 principles that we\u2019ve gone through\u2014these conversations we\u2019re making available on a flash drive, along with the original programs from which those ideas came through the years. That flash drive is available to those of you who can make a donation to support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, going forward. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYour donation today is going to be matched dollar for dollar. We\u2019re getting down to the wire. This matching-gift fund that has been made available to us through the month of May goes away pretty soon. In order for us to take full advantage of the fund, we need to hear from you today. In addition to the flash drive, we\u2019re going to send you a couple of books from Aaron and Jamie Ivey about marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd those of you who can join us as monthly Legacy Partners, and help support the ministry on an ongoing basis, in addition to the flash drive and the books, we\u2019re going to send <em>you<\/em> a certificate to attend an upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaway, either this spring or into the fall as the getaways start up again; we\u2019re excited about that. Your donations over the next 12 months are going to be matched, dollar for dollar, as long as there is money available in that matching-gift fund. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can become a Legacy Partner today, or make a one-time donation, go to FamilyLifeToday.com to donate; or call 1-800-358-6329; 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d Extend the reach of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> through your giving. Thanks, in advance, for whatever you\u2019re able to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA final word of thanks here to you as listeners: the time we have spent together, over the last 28 years, has been meaningful for me. I hope it\u2019s been meaningful for you as well, and I will miss the regular connection with you. Thanks for the kind notes you\u2019ve sent through the years. Thanks for the suggestions we\u2019ve gotten from you through the years; those have been helpful as well. I am confident that the best years are ahead for <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith that, we\u2019ve got to wrap things up for this week. Thanks for joining us. I hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this weekend. I hope you have a refreshing weekend, and I hope you can tune in Monday. Dave and Ann are going to talk with Levi and Jennie Lusko. They are going to share about a critical moment in their family\u2019s life. I won\u2019t go into all the details now, but it\u2019s a powerful story. I hope you can tune in on Memorial Day for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, who has been a great friend and a trusted companion over the years. Also, I want to thank Bruce Goff, who added some help today, and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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