{"id":306832,"date":"2021-04-29T07:00:05","date_gmt":"2021-04-29T11:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/when-your-identity-is-in-christ\/"},"modified":"2021-04-29T07:00:05","modified_gmt":"2021-04-29T11:00:05","slug":"when-your-identity-is-in-christ","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/when-your-identity-is-in-christ\/","title":{"rendered":"When Your Identity is in Christ"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Christopher Yuan, who left his homosexual lifestyle after believing in Jesus, talks freely about his identity as a Christian.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/mp3.familylife.com\/fl2021-04-29.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:29:37","filesize":"27.12M","filesize_raw":"28438670","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2848,2805,2896,2088],"tags":[4129],"podcast_series":[8261],"cwp_profile":[8908],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-306832","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cultural-issues","category-gods-plan-for-marriage","category-lgbt","category-romance-and-sex","tag-homosexuality","podcast_series-holy-sexuality-and-the-gospel","cwp_profile-christopher-yuan","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/306832\/when-your-identity-is-in-christ","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/306832\/when-your-identity-is-in-christ","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"18cObDAIJB\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/when-your-identity-is-in-christ\/\">When Your Identity is in Christ<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/when-your-identity-is-in-christ\/embed\/#?secret=18cObDAIJB\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;When Your Identity is in Christ&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"18cObDAIJB\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! This file is auto-generated *\/\n!function(d,l){\"use strict\";l.querySelector&&d.addEventListener&&\"undefined\"!=typeof URL&&(d.wp=d.wp||{},d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage||(d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage=function(e){var t=e.data;if((t||t.secret||t.message||t.value)&&!\/[^a-zA-Z0-9]\/.test(t.secret)){for(var s,r,n,a=l.querySelectorAll('iframe[data-secret=\"'+t.secret+'\"]'),o=l.querySelectorAll('blockquote[data-secret=\"'+t.secret+'\"]'),c=new RegExp(\"^https?:$\",\"i\"),i=0;i<o.length;i++)o[i].style.display=\"none\";for(i=0;i<a.length;i++)s=a[i],e.source===s.contentWindow&&(s.removeAttribute(\"style\"),\"height\"===t.message?(1e3<(r=parseInt(t.value,10))?r=1e3:~~r<200&&(r=200),s.height=r):\"link\"===t.message&&(r=new URL(s.getAttribute(\"src\")),n=new URL(t.value),c.test(n.protocol))&&n.host===r.host&&l.activeElement===s&&(d.top.location.href=t.value))}},d.addEventListener(\"message\",d.wp.receiveEmbedMessage,!1),l.addEventListener(\"DOMContentLoaded\",function(){for(var e,t,s=l.querySelectorAll(\"iframe.wp-embedded-content\"),r=0;r<s.length;r++)(t=(e=s[r]).getAttribute(\"data-secret\"))||(t=Math.random().toString(36).substring(2,12),e.src+=\"#?secret=\"+t,e.setAttribute(\"data-secret\",t)),e.contentWindow.postMessage({message:\"ready\",secret:t},\"*\")},!1)))}(window,document);\n\/\/# sourceURL=https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-includes\/js\/wp-embed.min.js\n<\/script>\n"},"spectra_custom_meta":{"_wp_page_template":["default"],"transcript_url":["https:\/\/transcript.familylife.com\/fl2021-04-29.pdf"],"audio_file":["https:\/\/mp3.familylife.com\/fl2021-04-29.mp3"],"transcript_content":["<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Facing temptation is a part of living on earth; and in this culture, sexual temptation is one the challenges all of us face. Christopher Yuan says, to fight temptation, we have to realize who we really are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> The desires and the feelings that we get\u2014and sometimes, we can say, even \u201cbombarded\u201d\u2014sometimes, during the day, it could be like, \u201cI\u2019m good.\u201d Other times of the day, or times of the week, you\u2019re just bombarded with these thoughts that you didn\u2019t ask for, and these feelings, and the desires. I\u2019m going to be filtering those all through the <em>grid<\/em> of my identity in Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, April 29<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. How does understanding our identity in Christ affect our ability to deal with temptation? That\u2019s one of the things we\u2019re going to talk about today. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. You know, we\u2019ve already talked about this a little bit this week\u2014about what feels like kind of a renewal among Christians today about the importance of understanding our identity in Christ\u2014understanding who we are as Christians. I\u2019m thinking about the movie that our friends, Alex and Stephen Kendrick, did recently that was about that, a movie called <em>Overcomer<\/em>. There are books being written on this subject. This is a vital issue in our day for every believer to understand: \u201cWho am I in Christ? What does God say is true about me?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and I\u2019ve seen the same thing Bob; there\u2019s a\/I would say God\u2019s doing this\u2014probably around the world, but definitely in our country\u2014I\u2019ve watched it for the last three or four years. Ann and I have talked about it many times; there\u2019s this theme that\u2019s rising up in literature. I\u2019ve noticed it a lot\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014even music. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014in music\u2014that\u2019s what I was going to say. I ended a sermon, grabbed my guitar, and sang [singing]: \u201cI\u2019m no longer a slave to fear. I am a child of God.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That sounds like we could record that right now?\u2014[Laughter]\u2014I don\u2019t think so! But that very\/and you know, the church stood up and started singing; because there is something in our soul that needs to know: \u201cWho am I?\u201d I think God is speaking to us, in the church, and trying to remind us: \u201cThis is the core of your identity.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I was reading an article about how adolescents\/young people are really struggling with: \u201cWhat is their identity?\u201d In our world today, when they are confused about their identity, or when they are insecure about their identity\u2014and somebody comes along and says, \u201cWell, maybe, you need a new identity,\u201d\u2014that can be attractive just because you want something fresh and new. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s starting all over; it\u2019s becoming someone new. Maybe, it\u2019s because we haven\u2019t liked the old person; so we\u2019re trying to figure out, \u201cWho am I?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s interesting\u2014for 33 years now, I\u2019ve led a Bible study for the Detroit Lions\u2019 wives\u2014this past year, I asked them to introduce themselves in a little different way; I said, \u201cI want you to introduce yourselves; but you can\u2019t say what you\u2019ve done, who you\u2019re married to, or accomplishments that you\u2019ve had in your life.\u201d The room was <em>silent<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It took a long time; finally, someone said, \u201cUm, I\u2019m loving.\u201d It\u2019s interesting\u2014when you think about your identity, apart from your desires\/your accomplishments\u2014it\u2019s hard to come up with that answer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, the reason we\u2019re focused on this issue is because it\u2019s at the heart of a book that our friend, Christopher Yuan, has written called <em>Holy Sexuality and the Gospel<\/em>. Christopher is back with us, again, today. Welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Thanks, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We have been talking about this issue of sexuality, and identity is at the core of understanding our sexuality; isn\u2019t it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes, it is; that\u2019s why my book began that way. Honestly, I think in the conversation around sexuality, the concept of identity is really the missing piece that we, as Christians, at least, are not getting. The world gets it; the world actually has <em>completely<\/em> embraced it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo when we engage with our gay neighbor or our lesbian coworker\u2014and we\u2019re like, \u201cHow do I talk to them about this?\u201d and we begin with sinful behavior\u2014the reason why it\u2019s so offensive is because\u2014and I\u2019m just going to make it personal\u2014when I lived as a gay man: \u201cBeing gay\u201d\u2014as I would have said\u2014\u201cBeing gay is not something I did. Being gay is not what I felt. Being gay was <em>who I was<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> \u2014\u201c100 percent.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we come at it and say: \u201cHomosexuality is sin. Your same-sex relationship is sin,\u201d they don\u2019t hear you saying: \u201cWhat you\u2019re doing is sin. Your actions are sinful.\u201d What they hear is: \u201cYou\u2019ve just called me\u2014my whole being\/the core of who I am\u2014as reprehensible, detestable, sinful.\u201d That\u2019s why it\u2019s so offensive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, before we even address the sinful behavior, we need to step back and get at the core identity, which, honestly\u2014and I love what you said: \u201cWho are we?\u201d\u2014without saying, you know: \u201cI\u2019m a mother,\u201d or \u201cI\u2019m a wife,\u201d or whatever. That\u2019s hard, because this problem of identity is not something that the gay community is wrestling with; we all are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> We put our identity in things that we <em>do<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> I teach at Moody: \u201cI\u2019m a teacher, but is that really <em>who<\/em> I am?\u201d\u2014because if I retire and I don\u2019t teach, am I still a teacher? I mean, I don\u2019t know\u2014I guess you could say that\u2014but I think many of the things that we then label ourselves or say, \u201cThat\u2019s who we are,\u201d\u2014that might be more about what we do or even what we feel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI kind of develop that and I say: \u201cSo if that is not <em>who<\/em> we are\u2014but I say, \u2018Sexuality is not who we are,\u2019 it\u2019s <em>how<\/em> we are\u2014then, if that\u2019s not who we are, then, \u2018Who are we?\u2019\u201d That\u2019s a very important question that I think all Christians\/we need to ask ourselves that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Keep it personal for a minute. You said your own identity\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014you know, \u201cThis is who I am,\u201d\u2014you don\u2019t believe that anymore. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Don\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So talk to me: \u201cWho are you?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> My whole life\u2014this was 20 years ago\u2014was gay. All my friends were gay. The world was telling me: \u201cI am gay.\u201d All my friends were affirming that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, when I became a Christian, and God began to peel away the layers of my wrong identity, I did have an identity crisis all over again, like I did when I was a teenager. I\u2019m Chinese; so I dealt with identity: \u201cWho am I? Am I Chinese? Am I American? Am I Chinese-American? Am I American-Chinese? Who am I?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had this identity crisis, as a new-found Christian; and I needed to study that for myself. I came across all of these passages in the New Testament: \u201cWe are in Christ, \u201c \u201cWe are in Him.\u201d Over\/there are <em>hundreds<\/em> of these statements; and I needed to fully understand what that meant. Even going back to Genesis\u2014that God created us in His own image\u2014no other created being has that honor to be created in His image. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And that\u2019s an important place to start; because you might say, \u201cMy identity today is: \u2018I am a child of God\u2019\u201d; but we need to back up and say: \u201cWell, every human being has, as an identity marker, the image of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cWe are all created in His image, whether you know Christ or not.\u201d There is a nobility to that that often gets ignored or minimized when we\u2019re talking about behavior that we find inappropriate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. Even the worst mass murderer. or a guy who\u2019s abused children\u2014you know, just think of the worst whatever in your mind\u2014that individual is even, even if they\u2019re unrepentant\u2014is still created in the image of God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Adolf Hitler was created in the image of God; right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher: <\/strong>Yes! That means every person, in God\u2019s eyes, has great value and has in us the very image of God; but yet, the story doesn\u2019t end there. You know, Genesis 1 doesn\u2019t end\/you know, the Bible just doesn\u2019t end at Genesis 1 or Genesis 2. Unfortunately, we get Genesis 3; and that\u2019s an important part for us to understand as well. It does not take away the image of God\u2014it distorts it\u2014but the image of God is never lost. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> That, then, compels us forward to, then\u2014I mean, all the Old Testament: dealing with their sin, and rebelling against God; but then pointing toward the Messiah, who is Jesus Christ\u2014redemption. Christ came so that we have faith in Him, our sins are forgiven; but we also need to realize Christ is the perfect image of God. When we put our faith in Him, He is, in a sense, restoring that image of God in us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo yes, we are created in the image of God that\u2019s been distorted; but then, as people of faith\u2014who now believe in Christ by grace\u2014we then are being restored every day into the image of Christ, who is the perfect image of God. Our identity\u2014now, I realize: \u201cWho am I? My identity is in Christ; I\u2019m a Christ-follower.\u201d I don\u2019t want there to be any permanent modifier before my main identity in Christ. I\u2019m united with Him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>If somebody says to you, \u201cI\u2019m a gay Christian,\u201d what do you say back to them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher: <\/strong>Well, I don\u2019t identify as a Chinese Christian; I don\u2019t identify as a male Christian, even though yes, I am male and yes, I am Chinese. But I believe any permanent modifier shouldn\u2019t be before who I am in Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI never liked labels, growing up. I was called all different types of names, not only because I was Chinese, but because I didn\u2019t fit into the mold of a young boy: I was awful at sports; I was musical; and I grew once I got out of high school. [Laughter] I was teased ruthlessly; I never liked labels. When I became I Christian, I was like, \u201cI still don\u2019t like labels; but if there\u2019s going to be any one label that I will permanently put before \u2018I am\u2026\u2019 is a Christ-follower.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, hence\u2014actually, my name, which is so ironic\u2014my mother named me Christopher, as a non-Christian. I think it was God-ordained; didn\u2019t know what that name meant. All of my life, I went by Chris; all my friends called me Chris. In my testimony\u2014having become a Christian in prison\u2014when I had to sign my name on the dotted line to get out of prison, I had to sign my name\u2014not Chris Yuan\u2014but I had to sign my full name, Christopher. It was\u2014I remember it clear as day\u2014I looked at that, and I knew what that name meant. [Emotion in voice] As I was walking out of prison, I knew that this was going to be a very special day. I went into prison my old man; and I walked out of prison a new man. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo I go by Christopher. Actually, our ministry is called Bearer of Christ. Actually, now, I kind of insist people call me Christopher. It\u2019s still kind of different for me; <em>everyone <\/em>called me Chris.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>It\u2019s your new identity; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher: <\/strong>When people call me Christopher\u2014you know, it\u2019s harder to say. \u201cWhat do you want to go by?\u201d \u201cI go by Christopher. I know it\u2019s harder to say, but my name is Christopher.\u201d That\u2019s my given name\/that\u2019s my God-given name; and also, it\u2019s a daily reminder for me that I\u2019m on this earth for a reason\u2014and that\u2019s to bear Christ, not accidentally, but purposefully\u2014that\u2019s who I am. When I walk into a room, I don\u2019t want people to say: \u201cWow, that\u2019s an interesting guy,\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s a nice Chinese man,\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s a\u2026\u201d\u2014whatever. I want that person to, hopefully, walk away and say: \u201cMan! That guy is different. You know what? I see Christ in him,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s what I want. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t even identify as a same-sex-attracted Christian. Yes; that might be something that I might wrestle with; but actually, that\u2019s\u2014the fact that I might still experience same-sex attraction isn\u2019t really the real issue\u2014the real issue: I still wrestle with my sin nature. But in Christ, God has given me the ability to put to death my sin nature\u2014put to death and be victorious over my indwelling sin that kind of continues and wants to haunt me on this side of glory\u2014but that\u2019s who I am. So yes, I might wrestle with sinful temptations; but you know what?\u2014so do we all. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> And that puts us on the same level playing field\u2014all, daily, in need of more of Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I was going to say, I think every single person wrestles with that identity piece, wrestles with who we are in Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Even, as a mom, a mom can think: \u201cI\u2019m a <em>bad<\/em> mom,\u201d \u201cI\u2019m a <em>terrible<\/em> wife,\u201d and \u201cMy husband is a <em>bad<\/em> husband.\u201d You know, we can go through all these things: \u201cI\u2019m fat,\u201d or \u201cI\u2019m ugly,\u201d or \u201cI\u2019m stupid.\u201d I think people\u2014the more you think that, that can become part of our identity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, we\u2019re saying: \u201cDo I have worth and value?\u201d and\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cWhere do I find my worth and value?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Apart from Christ, people are running around, all over the place, trying to say, \u201cI think I\u2019m going to find it here,\u201d \u201cI think I\u2019m going to find it there.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When you find worth and value, you go, \u201cAh, this feels really good.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And everybody is looking for that; but apart from Christ, it\u2019s all counterfeit worth and value. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> It is; it is the easy thing to do. You know, this is: \u201cI\u2019m a baseball player,\u201d \u201cI\u2019m a mom\u201d; and honestly, you know, I would say there are many Christian moms out there that have made that the core of who they are. They put everything\u2014and when things go wrong with their child, their whole world\u2014that was my mom. She was your typical tiger mom. You know, her whole\/honestly, she gave up everything for her family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe came here to the U.S. on a full-ride scholarship for graduate school and gave it up because, her whole life, she wanted to be a mom and a wife\u2014and a good wife. That was her dream. She gave that all up; and then, here I am\u2014you know, I rebelled\u2014so her world was crushed. She wanted to end her life\u2014and it wasn\u2019t just me; my parents\u2019 marriage\u2014they were going to get a divorce. It was just a combination of things that seemed to kind of snowball, but God used that. Instead of her taking her life, God gave her life. I mean, she says in her testimony, she wanted to end her life. In reality, she did\u2014because one of her favorite verses is Galatians 2:20: \u201cFor I\u2019ve been crucified with Christ, but Christ now lives in me,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s a key thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tUnfortunately, I think with many\u2014even parents who have gay children\u2014they beat themselves up because: \u201cWhat did I do wrong?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> \u201cIf I just went to all his soccer games,\u201d\u2014or whatever it is\u2014\u201cthen, she\u201d or \u201c\u2026he\u201d\u2014whatever\u2014\u201cwouldn\u2019t\u2026\u201d Here\u2019s the reality: Perfect parenting doesn\u2019t guarantee perfect children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> I actually tell many parents: \u201cIt\u2019s not your fault.\u201d We look at Adam and Eve in the Garden. Did they not have a perfect Father? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Were they not raised in the perfect environment? They still rebelled. So what makes us think\/or what makes parents think they can do any better?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat that tells me is: Parents, you\u2019re not God. No parent can turn a heart to Jesus. Only God can do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Point your kid to Christ, but you can\u2019t turn them; you can\u2019t make them believe in Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that\u2019s so important\u2014it ties into this identity\u2014because then, it puts it back upon who we are. Parents, your main focus is to love Christ, be more transformed into Christ, and not put your whole world around other things that aren\u2019t really who we are.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So here you are. You know, as you think about your mom\u2014who is praying for you and begging God for what you\u2019ve become; but at [that] point, you\u2019re not [a believer], so you go back to that prison cell\u2014you walk out, and you\u2019re a new man. I mean, you get emotional, thinking about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So it\u2019s this cool identity moment. Your mom didn\u2019t change you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe started talking about identity. Let\u2019s make sure we close the loop there: \u201cHow does your new identity in Christ\u201d\u2014which is so cool; it\u2019s literally in your name\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014in Christ is Christopher\u2014\u201cso how does that apply, now, to the identity of who you are?\u2014and especially, even to your sexuality?\u201d Walk us through that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes, I think so. When we talk about identity in Christ\/union with Christ, it really is\u2014I mean, if we\u2019re just going to make a practical, layman, everyday talk\u2014I think the easiest way to think about it is: \u201cWhat is the main priority in our life? What is it that we dwell on?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019re a teenager in high school, and you kind of have this new puppy love, you know\u2014and all you think about is that person\u2014that can be really consuming. You know, are we making Christ\u2014His Kingdom, the body of Christ\u2014the forefront of what we do throughout the day? While we\u2019re working, am I doing what I\u2019m doing\u2014whether I\u2019m answering the phone at an office\u2014am I doing that for the glory of God?\u2014am I doing it, Christ-like? If I\u2019m an accountant, am I crunching numbers for\u2014and I can be meditating on that: \u201cHow can I be doing this for the glory of God?\u201d I think these are all things that we need to think about, throughout the day, whether you\u2019re on a break\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPaul says, \u201cPray without ceasing.\u201d Pray doesn\u2019t mean you need to close your eyes, put your hands together. I just pray, sometimes, when I\u2019m just waiting on an elevator: \u201cMan, my friend that just asked me to pray. Well, I\u2019m going to do that; I\u2019m going to do that right now,\u201d\u2014just little, little things like that. What are the things that we make the main thing in our life every day? It can really, really be simple things\u2014for me, that is: \u201cWhat is identity?\u201d\u2014even [if I am] a mother, when I\u2019m shepherding my child, am I doing this and saying\/am I doing this: \u201cAm I pointing my child to Christ? Am I doing this in a way that is just infused with the good news of the gospel?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here is what I hear you saying; I hear you saying, when you understand your identity\u2014understand: \u201cI\u2019m a child of God. I belong to Him. I\u2019m in His family. This is who I am,\u201d\u2014now, I\u2019m facing decisions about my sexuality, about my desires\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014about my attractions. My identity is going to govern how I respond to that input; is that right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes, yes. The desires and the feelings that we get\u2014and sometimes, we can say even \u201cbombarded\u201d\u2014sometimes, during the day, it could be like, \u201cI\u2019m good.\u201d Other times of the day, or times of the week, you\u2019re just bombarded with these thoughts that you didn\u2019t ask for, and these feelings, and the desires. I\u2019m going to be filtering those all through the <em>grid<\/em> of my identity in Christ\u2014that even the feelings\u2014because I know, my sinful behavior\/anyone\u2019s sinful behavior always begins with the heart, with the desire in my mind. If I\u2019m not filtering those things, it\u2019s much easier to kind of fall right into the behavior. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI need to be catching these things\u2014my thoughts\/my desires\u2014so the sexual desires that I have. I\u2019m a single man; I\u2019m not married, so any sexual desire that I have\u2014it will not be toward my potential wife\u2014so therefore, I need to be putting them under the authority of Christ and say, \u201cThat is not God\u2019s will.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think this is so significant and so important for us to get our arms around. I think the key idea here to understand, \u201cWhat is our identity?\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and then to have our behavior governed by that understanding. When your behavior is different than your identity, something is wrong; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and I am inspired right now in this way\u2014because it\u2019s so easy to say, \u201cMy desire is so strong; I <em>can\u2019t<\/em> really control it.\u201d I\u2019ve heard Christian men say that: \u201cThat\u2019s\/I just can\u2019t,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m hearing you say, \u201cYes; you can.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I know I can. I have desires\u2014we\u2019ve all had wrong sinful desires that are strong; it isn\u2019t like\/no; they are <em>real<\/em>, and they\u2019re strong\u2014but in Christ, the identity piece again\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014there is actually a <em>power<\/em> that I did not have when I was not in Christ that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014I now have. Literally, the Holy Spirit of God lives in me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCan I control this desire? Yes, I can make decisions. I\u2019d like to say to people listening right now, \u201cYou can win this battle right now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cYou have the power.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So if He can raise people from the dead, He can help you put to death the desire that you\u2019re dealing with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I was thinking, too\u2014when you said you came out of prison\u2014you, literally, were a new person because Christ was living in you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You had the power of the Holy Spirit; you were brand-new\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes; amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and you are brand-new. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Amen; praise God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That is a new identity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And anybody <em>in Christ<\/em> is brand-new\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014the power of God\u2019s resurrection. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> This is why identity is so important; because if you think about it: \u201cWho we identify as\u2014you know, what flows from that?\u2014thinking, our thoughts, our behavior\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cour actions, our relationships.\u201d I really think that so much is tied directly into who we are; because then, if you have the wrong identity, guess what\u2019s going to flow out of that?\u2014wrong thinking, wrong behavior, wrong relationships. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is why this book is not just for people, who are curious about same-sex attraction and that issue. This is a book that helps you understand human sexuality\u2014all of our sexuality: our desires, our behaviors, our actions\u2014and how the gospel and our sexuality ought to interact. I think this would be a great book for small groups to go through together\/a good book for parents and teens to go through together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Holy Sexuality and the Gospel: Sex, Desire, and Relationships Shaped by God\u2019s Grand Story<\/em>; the author is our guest today, Christopher Yuan. We\u2019ve got copies available for you in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Order from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call to order: 1-800-FL-TODAY. The website, again: FamilyLifeToday.com. 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Christopher Yuan says, to fight temptation, we have to realize who we really are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> The desires and the feelings that we get\u2014and sometimes, we can say, even \u201cbombarded\u201d\u2014sometimes, during the day, it could be like, \u201cI\u2019m good.\u201d Other times of the day, or times of the week, you\u2019re just bombarded with these thoughts that you didn\u2019t ask for, and these feelings, and the desires. I\u2019m going to be filtering those all through the <em>grid<\/em> of my identity in Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, April 29<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. How does understanding our identity in Christ affect our ability to deal with temptation? That\u2019s one of the things we\u2019re going to talk about today. 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But that very\/and you know, the church stood up and started singing; because there is something in our soul that needs to know: \u201cWho am I?\u201d I think God is speaking to us, in the church, and trying to remind us: \u201cThis is the core of your identity.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I was reading an article about how adolescents\/young people are really struggling with: \u201cWhat is their identity?\u201d In our world today, when they are confused about their identity, or when they are insecure about their identity\u2014and somebody comes along and says, \u201cWell, maybe, you need a new identity,\u201d\u2014that can be attractive just because you want something fresh and new. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s starting all over; it\u2019s becoming someone new. Maybe, it\u2019s because we haven\u2019t liked the old person; so we\u2019re trying to figure out, \u201cWho am I?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s interesting\u2014for 33 years now, I\u2019ve led a Bible study for the Detroit Lions\u2019 wives\u2014this past year, I asked them to introduce themselves in a little different way; I said, \u201cI want you to introduce yourselves; but you can\u2019t say what you\u2019ve done, who you\u2019re married to, or accomplishments that you\u2019ve had in your life.\u201d The room was <em>silent<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It took a long time; finally, someone said, \u201cUm, I\u2019m loving.\u201d It\u2019s interesting\u2014when you think about your identity, apart from your desires\/your accomplishments\u2014it\u2019s hard to come up with that answer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, the reason we\u2019re focused on this issue is because it\u2019s at the heart of a book that our friend, Christopher Yuan, has written called <em>Holy Sexuality and the Gospel<\/em>. Christopher is back with us, again, today. Welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Thanks, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We have been talking about this issue of sexuality, and identity is at the core of understanding our sexuality; isn\u2019t it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes, it is; that\u2019s why my book began that way. Honestly, I think in the conversation around sexuality, the concept of identity is really the missing piece that we, as Christians, at least, are not getting. The world gets it; the world actually has <em>completely<\/em> embraced it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo when we engage with our gay neighbor or our lesbian coworker\u2014and we\u2019re like, \u201cHow do I talk to them about this?\u201d and we begin with sinful behavior\u2014the reason why it\u2019s so offensive is because\u2014and I\u2019m just going to make it personal\u2014when I lived as a gay man: \u201cBeing gay\u201d\u2014as I would have said\u2014\u201cBeing gay is not something I did. Being gay is not what I felt. Being gay was <em>who I was<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> \u2014\u201c100 percent.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we come at it and say: \u201cHomosexuality is sin. Your same-sex relationship is sin,\u201d they don\u2019t hear you saying: \u201cWhat you\u2019re doing is sin. Your actions are sinful.\u201d What they hear is: \u201cYou\u2019ve just called me\u2014my whole being\/the core of who I am\u2014as reprehensible, detestable, sinful.\u201d That\u2019s why it\u2019s so offensive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, before we even address the sinful behavior, we need to step back and get at the core identity, which, honestly\u2014and I love what you said: \u201cWho are we?\u201d\u2014without saying, you know: \u201cI\u2019m a mother,\u201d or \u201cI\u2019m a wife,\u201d or whatever. That\u2019s hard, because this problem of identity is not something that the gay community is wrestling with; we all are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> We put our identity in things that we <em>do<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> I teach at Moody: \u201cI\u2019m a teacher, but is that really <em>who<\/em> I am?\u201d\u2014because if I retire and I don\u2019t teach, am I still a teacher? I mean, I don\u2019t know\u2014I guess you could say that\u2014but I think many of the things that we then label ourselves or say, \u201cThat\u2019s who we are,\u201d\u2014that might be more about what we do or even what we feel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI kind of develop that and I say: \u201cSo if that is not <em>who<\/em> we are\u2014but I say, \u2018Sexuality is not who we are,\u2019 it\u2019s <em>how<\/em> we are\u2014then, if that\u2019s not who we are, then, \u2018Who are we?\u2019\u201d That\u2019s a very important question that I think all Christians\/we need to ask ourselves that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Keep it personal for a minute. You said your own identity\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014you know, \u201cThis is who I am,\u201d\u2014you don\u2019t believe that anymore. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Don\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So talk to me: \u201cWho are you?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> My whole life\u2014this was 20 years ago\u2014was gay. All my friends were gay. The world was telling me: \u201cI am gay.\u201d All my friends were affirming that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, when I became a Christian, and God began to peel away the layers of my wrong identity, I did have an identity crisis all over again, like I did when I was a teenager. I\u2019m Chinese; so I dealt with identity: \u201cWho am I? Am I Chinese? Am I American? Am I Chinese-American? Am I American-Chinese? Who am I?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had this identity crisis, as a new-found Christian; and I needed to study that for myself. I came across all of these passages in the New Testament: \u201cWe are in Christ, \u201c \u201cWe are in Him.\u201d Over\/there are <em>hundreds<\/em> of these statements; and I needed to fully understand what that meant. Even going back to Genesis\u2014that God created us in His own image\u2014no other created being has that honor to be created in His image. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And that\u2019s an important place to start; because you might say, \u201cMy identity today is: \u2018I am a child of God\u2019\u201d; but we need to back up and say: \u201cWell, every human being has, as an identity marker, the image of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cWe are all created in His image, whether you know Christ or not.\u201d There is a nobility to that that often gets ignored or minimized when we\u2019re talking about behavior that we find inappropriate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. Even the worst mass murderer. or a guy who\u2019s abused children\u2014you know, just think of the worst whatever in your mind\u2014that individual is even, even if they\u2019re unrepentant\u2014is still created in the image of God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Adolf Hitler was created in the image of God; right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher: <\/strong>Yes! That means every person, in God\u2019s eyes, has great value and has in us the very image of God; but yet, the story doesn\u2019t end there. You know, Genesis 1 doesn\u2019t end\/you know, the Bible just doesn\u2019t end at Genesis 1 or Genesis 2. Unfortunately, we get Genesis 3; and that\u2019s an important part for us to understand as well. It does not take away the image of God\u2014it distorts it\u2014but the image of God is never lost. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> That, then, compels us forward to, then\u2014I mean, all the Old Testament: dealing with their sin, and rebelling against God; but then pointing toward the Messiah, who is Jesus Christ\u2014redemption. Christ came so that we have faith in Him, our sins are forgiven; but we also need to realize Christ is the perfect image of God. When we put our faith in Him, He is, in a sense, restoring that image of God in us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo yes, we are created in the image of God that\u2019s been distorted; but then, as people of faith\u2014who now believe in Christ by grace\u2014we then are being restored every day into the image of Christ, who is the perfect image of God. Our identity\u2014now, I realize: \u201cWho am I? My identity is in Christ; I\u2019m a Christ-follower.\u201d I don\u2019t want there to be any permanent modifier before my main identity in Christ. I\u2019m united with Him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>If somebody says to you, \u201cI\u2019m a gay Christian,\u201d what do you say back to them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher: <\/strong>Well, I don\u2019t identify as a Chinese Christian; I don\u2019t identify as a male Christian, even though yes, I am male and yes, I am Chinese. But I believe any permanent modifier shouldn\u2019t be before who I am in Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI never liked labels, growing up. I was called all different types of names, not only because I was Chinese, but because I didn\u2019t fit into the mold of a young boy: I was awful at sports; I was musical; and I grew once I got out of high school. [Laughter] I was teased ruthlessly; I never liked labels. When I became I Christian, I was like, \u201cI still don\u2019t like labels; but if there\u2019s going to be any one label that I will permanently put before \u2018I am\u2026\u2019 is a Christ-follower.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, hence\u2014actually, my name, which is so ironic\u2014my mother named me Christopher, as a non-Christian. I think it was God-ordained; didn\u2019t know what that name meant. All of my life, I went by Chris; all my friends called me Chris. In my testimony\u2014having become a Christian in prison\u2014when I had to sign my name on the dotted line to get out of prison, I had to sign my name\u2014not Chris Yuan\u2014but I had to sign my full name, Christopher. It was\u2014I remember it clear as day\u2014I looked at that, and I knew what that name meant. [Emotion in voice] As I was walking out of prison, I knew that this was going to be a very special day. I went into prison my old man; and I walked out of prison a new man. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo I go by Christopher. Actually, our ministry is called Bearer of Christ. Actually, now, I kind of insist people call me Christopher. It\u2019s still kind of different for me; <em>everyone <\/em>called me Chris.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>It\u2019s your new identity; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher: <\/strong>When people call me Christopher\u2014you know, it\u2019s harder to say. \u201cWhat do you want to go by?\u201d \u201cI go by Christopher. I know it\u2019s harder to say, but my name is Christopher.\u201d That\u2019s my given name\/that\u2019s my God-given name; and also, it\u2019s a daily reminder for me that I\u2019m on this earth for a reason\u2014and that\u2019s to bear Christ, not accidentally, but purposefully\u2014that\u2019s who I am. When I walk into a room, I don\u2019t want people to say: \u201cWow, that\u2019s an interesting guy,\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s a nice Chinese man,\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s a\u2026\u201d\u2014whatever. I want that person to, hopefully, walk away and say: \u201cMan! That guy is different. You know what? I see Christ in him,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s what I want. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t even identify as a same-sex-attracted Christian. Yes; that might be something that I might wrestle with; but actually, that\u2019s\u2014the fact that I might still experience same-sex attraction isn\u2019t really the real issue\u2014the real issue: I still wrestle with my sin nature. But in Christ, God has given me the ability to put to death my sin nature\u2014put to death and be victorious over my indwelling sin that kind of continues and wants to haunt me on this side of glory\u2014but that\u2019s who I am. So yes, I might wrestle with sinful temptations; but you know what?\u2014so do we all. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> And that puts us on the same level playing field\u2014all, daily, in need of more of Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I was going to say, I think every single person wrestles with that identity piece, wrestles with who we are in Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Even, as a mom, a mom can think: \u201cI\u2019m a <em>bad<\/em> mom,\u201d \u201cI\u2019m a <em>terrible<\/em> wife,\u201d and \u201cMy husband is a <em>bad<\/em> husband.\u201d You know, we can go through all these things: \u201cI\u2019m fat,\u201d or \u201cI\u2019m ugly,\u201d or \u201cI\u2019m stupid.\u201d I think people\u2014the more you think that, that can become part of our identity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, we\u2019re saying: \u201cDo I have worth and value?\u201d and\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cWhere do I find my worth and value?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Apart from Christ, people are running around, all over the place, trying to say, \u201cI think I\u2019m going to find it here,\u201d \u201cI think I\u2019m going to find it there.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When you find worth and value, you go, \u201cAh, this feels really good.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And everybody is looking for that; but apart from Christ, it\u2019s all counterfeit worth and value. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> It is; it is the easy thing to do. You know, this is: \u201cI\u2019m a baseball player,\u201d \u201cI\u2019m a mom\u201d; and honestly, you know, I would say there are many Christian moms out there that have made that the core of who they are. They put everything\u2014and when things go wrong with their child, their whole world\u2014that was my mom. She was your typical tiger mom. You know, her whole\/honestly, she gave up everything for her family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe came here to the U.S. on a full-ride scholarship for graduate school and gave it up because, her whole life, she wanted to be a mom and a wife\u2014and a good wife. That was her dream. She gave that all up; and then, here I am\u2014you know, I rebelled\u2014so her world was crushed. She wanted to end her life\u2014and it wasn\u2019t just me; my parents\u2019 marriage\u2014they were going to get a divorce. It was just a combination of things that seemed to kind of snowball, but God used that. Instead of her taking her life, God gave her life. I mean, she says in her testimony, she wanted to end her life. In reality, she did\u2014because one of her favorite verses is Galatians 2:20: \u201cFor I\u2019ve been crucified with Christ, but Christ now lives in me,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s a key thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tUnfortunately, I think with many\u2014even parents who have gay children\u2014they beat themselves up because: \u201cWhat did I do wrong?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> \u201cIf I just went to all his soccer games,\u201d\u2014or whatever it is\u2014\u201cthen, she\u201d or \u201c\u2026he\u201d\u2014whatever\u2014\u201cwouldn\u2019t\u2026\u201d Here\u2019s the reality: Perfect parenting doesn\u2019t guarantee perfect children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> I actually tell many parents: \u201cIt\u2019s not your fault.\u201d We look at Adam and Eve in the Garden. Did they not have a perfect Father? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Were they not raised in the perfect environment? They still rebelled. So what makes us think\/or what makes parents think they can do any better?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat that tells me is: Parents, you\u2019re not God. No parent can turn a heart to Jesus. Only God can do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Point your kid to Christ, but you can\u2019t turn them; you can\u2019t make them believe in Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that\u2019s so important\u2014it ties into this identity\u2014because then, it puts it back upon who we are. Parents, your main focus is to love Christ, be more transformed into Christ, and not put your whole world around other things that aren\u2019t really who we are.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So here you are. You know, as you think about your mom\u2014who is praying for you and begging God for what you\u2019ve become; but at [that] point, you\u2019re not [a believer], so you go back to that prison cell\u2014you walk out, and you\u2019re a new man. I mean, you get emotional, thinking about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So it\u2019s this cool identity moment. Your mom didn\u2019t change you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe started talking about identity. Let\u2019s make sure we close the loop there: \u201cHow does your new identity in Christ\u201d\u2014which is so cool; it\u2019s literally in your name\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014in Christ is Christopher\u2014\u201cso how does that apply, now, to the identity of who you are?\u2014and especially, even to your sexuality?\u201d Walk us through that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes, I think so. When we talk about identity in Christ\/union with Christ, it really is\u2014I mean, if we\u2019re just going to make a practical, layman, everyday talk\u2014I think the easiest way to think about it is: \u201cWhat is the main priority in our life? What is it that we dwell on?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019re a teenager in high school, and you kind of have this new puppy love, you know\u2014and all you think about is that person\u2014that can be really consuming. You know, are we making Christ\u2014His Kingdom, the body of Christ\u2014the forefront of what we do throughout the day? While we\u2019re working, am I doing what I\u2019m doing\u2014whether I\u2019m answering the phone at an office\u2014am I doing that for the glory of God?\u2014am I doing it, Christ-like? If I\u2019m an accountant, am I crunching numbers for\u2014and I can be meditating on that: \u201cHow can I be doing this for the glory of God?\u201d I think these are all things that we need to think about, throughout the day, whether you\u2019re on a break\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPaul says, \u201cPray without ceasing.\u201d Pray doesn\u2019t mean you need to close your eyes, put your hands together. I just pray, sometimes, when I\u2019m just waiting on an elevator: \u201cMan, my friend that just asked me to pray. Well, I\u2019m going to do that; I\u2019m going to do that right now,\u201d\u2014just little, little things like that. What are the things that we make the main thing in our life every day? It can really, really be simple things\u2014for me, that is: \u201cWhat is identity?\u201d\u2014even [if I am] a mother, when I\u2019m shepherding my child, am I doing this and saying\/am I doing this: \u201cAm I pointing my child to Christ? Am I doing this in a way that is just infused with the good news of the gospel?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here is what I hear you saying; I hear you saying, when you understand your identity\u2014understand: \u201cI\u2019m a child of God. I belong to Him. I\u2019m in His family. This is who I am,\u201d\u2014now, I\u2019m facing decisions about my sexuality, about my desires\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014about my attractions. My identity is going to govern how I respond to that input; is that right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes, yes. The desires and the feelings that we get\u2014and sometimes, we can say even \u201cbombarded\u201d\u2014sometimes, during the day, it could be like, \u201cI\u2019m good.\u201d Other times of the day, or times of the week, you\u2019re just bombarded with these thoughts that you didn\u2019t ask for, and these feelings, and the desires. I\u2019m going to be filtering those all through the <em>grid<\/em> of my identity in Christ\u2014that even the feelings\u2014because I know, my sinful behavior\/anyone\u2019s sinful behavior always begins with the heart, with the desire in my mind. If I\u2019m not filtering those things, it\u2019s much easier to kind of fall right into the behavior. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI need to be catching these things\u2014my thoughts\/my desires\u2014so the sexual desires that I have. I\u2019m a single man; I\u2019m not married, so any sexual desire that I have\u2014it will not be toward my potential wife\u2014so therefore, I need to be putting them under the authority of Christ and say, \u201cThat is not God\u2019s will.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think this is so significant and so important for us to get our arms around. I think the key idea here to understand, \u201cWhat is our identity?\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and then to have our behavior governed by that understanding. When your behavior is different than your identity, something is wrong; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and I am inspired right now in this way\u2014because it\u2019s so easy to say, \u201cMy desire is so strong; I <em>can\u2019t<\/em> really control it.\u201d I\u2019ve heard Christian men say that: \u201cThat\u2019s\/I just can\u2019t,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m hearing you say, \u201cYes; you can.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I know I can. I have desires\u2014we\u2019ve all had wrong sinful desires that are strong; it isn\u2019t like\/no; they are <em>real<\/em>, and they\u2019re strong\u2014but in Christ, the identity piece again\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014there is actually a <em>power<\/em> that I did not have when I was not in Christ that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014I now have. Literally, the Holy Spirit of God lives in me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCan I control this desire? Yes, I can make decisions. I\u2019d like to say to people listening right now, \u201cYou can win this battle right now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cYou have the power.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So if He can raise people from the dead, He can help you put to death the desire that you\u2019re dealing with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I was thinking, too\u2014when you said you came out of prison\u2014you, literally, were a new person because Christ was living in you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You had the power of the Holy Spirit; you were brand-new\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Yes; amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and you are brand-new. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> Amen; praise God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That is a new identity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And anybody <em>in Christ<\/em> is brand-new\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014the power of God\u2019s resurrection. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> This is why identity is so important; because if you think about it: \u201cWho we identify as\u2014you know, what flows from that?\u2014thinking, our thoughts, our behavior\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Christopher:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cour actions, our relationships.\u201d I really think that so much is tied directly into who we are; because then, if you have the wrong identity, guess what\u2019s going to flow out of that?\u2014wrong thinking, wrong behavior, wrong relationships. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is why this book is not just for people, who are curious about same-sex attraction and that issue. This is a book that helps you understand human sexuality\u2014all of our sexuality: our desires, our behaviors, our actions\u2014and how the gospel and our sexuality ought to interact. I think this would be a great book for small groups to go through together\/a good book for parents and teens to go through together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Holy Sexuality and the Gospel: Sex, Desire, and Relationships Shaped by God\u2019s Grand Story<\/em>; the author is our guest today, Christopher Yuan. We\u2019ve got copies available for you in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Order from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call to order: 1-800-FL-TODAY. The website, again: FamilyLifeToday.com. The phone number is 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe feel like these kinds of conversations are important for us to be having; and it\u2019s important for us to keep coming back to what the Bible has to say about subjects\u2014like gender identity, sexuality, marriage, parenting\u2014all of the things we talk about, here, on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Our goal is to effectively develop godly marriages and families, and the way you do that is by continuing to renew your mind around what God\u2019s Word has to say on these subjects.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is committed to providing practical biblical help and hope for your marriage and your family. The people, who really make sure this word gets out, is some of your fellow listeners. It\u2019s those of you who have joined arms with us by making donations to this ministry so that we can reach more people, more regularly, with God\u2019s design for marriage and family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019re a regular listener, and you\u2019ve never made a donation, or it\u2019s been awhile since you\u2019ve donated to support this ministry, let me encourage you to go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, to donate today; or call to donate at 1-800-FL-TODAY. When you do, we\u2019d love to send you, as a thank-you gift, a copy of two books that we\u2019ve talked about this week: Matt and Lisa Jacobsen\u2019s books, <em>100 Ways to Love Your Wife<\/em>;<em> 100 Ways to Love Your Husband<\/em>, ways we can proactively, more effectively express our love to one another in marriage. 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