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Michelle Watson Canfield bridges that gap by sharing practical communication tips.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylife.com\/fl2021-04-20.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>One of the ways we communicate to others that they are important to us is by giving them our undivided attention. Michelle Watson Canfield\u00a0 says that\u2019s especially true in the relationship between fathers and daughters.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>The more a dad can listen to his daughter, he gives her a gift of building her self-esteem; because he\u2019s saying, \u201cYou\u2019re worth listening to,\u201d so that she doesn\u2019t have to go out\u2014and I say \u201cthe world\u201d in quotes\u2014everywhere else in order to be heard; because Daddy wants to hear her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, April 20<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. One of the necessary skills to be a good listener is to know how to ask really good questions. We\u2019re going to talk today about how dads can do that with their daughters. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I grew up in St. Louis; and in St. Louis, there\u2019s a big park in mid-town St. Louis called Forest Park. In the middle of Forest Park is an outdoor amphitheater; and every summer, they had Broadway musicals that are shown at this outdoor amphitheater. They\u2019ll have six or seven shows every summer. We got season tickets when I was a kid, so I grew up seeing Broadway musicals in my home town of St. Louis.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>That\u2019s fun!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Really? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, I loved all of this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere was one musical I remember seeing that featured a carnival worker named Billy Bigelow. He met young Julie Jordan, and they fell in love; and they got married. It was called <em>Carousel<\/em>, Rogers and Hammerstein musical.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Sure!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There\u2019s a point in this musical\u2014you have no idea what I\u2019m talking about, Dave\u2014right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>You know, I was listening to the Beatles.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You got it; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m going to find out from our guest, Michelle Watson Canfield\u2014welcome back to the program.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Thank you; glad to be back!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Do you know what I\u2019m talking about?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay; well, you will be interested in this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There\u2019s a point in this, where Julie tells Billy they\u2019re going to have a baby. Billy has this scene, where he goes out and he starts singing this song about how great it\u2019s going to be to have a son [singing]: \u201cMy boy, Bill, he\u2019ll be tall and as tough as a tree\u2026\u201d He\u2019s singing all about little Bill and what a tough guy he\u2019s going to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>That sounded good, Bob! You sounded just like him!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>It did!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>In the middle of the song, it dawns on Billy Bigelow it might not be a boy. He goes, \u201cWhat if \u2018he\u2019 is a \u2018she\u2019?\u201d Then he stops, and he\u2019s having to recalibrate. There\u2019s a line in the song, where he says, \u201cYou can have fun with a son, but you gotta be a daddy to a girl.\u201d He\u2019s starting to wrap his arms around, \u201cI won\u2019t even know what to do with her; I won\u2019t know how to interact with her.\u201d Over the course of the song, he starts to go, \u201cWell, it might not be as bad as you think. She could be sweet\u2026\u201d He\u2019s starting to get used to this idea.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve been thinking about that song since I came across the copy of your book, Michelle, which is called <em>Let\u2019s Talk<\/em>. You are laying out for dads of daughters how vital\/how important a relationship between a father and a daughter is. Don\u2019t you think most men feel intuitively more equipped to be fathers to sons than they do to be fathers of daughters?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>I have seen that to be true over the last decade of coaching dads of daughters. Yet, at the end of the day, I have so many dads\/their face lights up when they talk about having a daughter. I mean, do you remember that?\u2014when you looked at your daughter for the first time? How was it different than looking at your sons?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Oh, there\u2019s an emotional bonding\/there\u2019s an emotional connection between fathers and daughters that I think is very different. We have three boys and two girls. The girls came first, so I had to connect there right from the start; but it was not hard, because there is part of your heart that goes to a daughter in a different way than your heart goes to your son; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Yes; so I really believe that that directive in Scripture\u2014Malachi 4:6 and \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLuke 1:17, where God says He wants to turn the hearts, not just the heads, of fathers to their children\u2014and I believe it\u2019s a command, because it doesn\u2019t come as intuitively for men.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s really been my goal with this book: for men to understand what heart engagement looks like with us, as daughters. It\u2019s that you have to soften your tone; you have to drop the anger; you need to slow down and pace with her\/read her eyes. Those kinds of things\u2014as you practice them, men\u2014you\u2019re going to engage the heart of your daughter; and you\u2019re going to grow in the process!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I\u2019m just like, \u201cThat sounds great! Do that to your wives, too!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>It sounds so good!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Yes, and I may be the opposite. I\u2019m sitting there, going, \u201cOh wow; that\u2019s <em>impossible<\/em>. That\u2019s\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Did you feel that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>There\u2019s a sense of: \u201cThat\u2019s so hard.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>\u2014like even with granddaughters.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Yes; with all of our granddaughters, it forces me, as a man, to go <em>heart<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>I have to be honest; part of me is like, \u201cI\u2019m out!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>I think that\u2019s what we do as men\u2014we check out\u2014and we shouldn\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Right; well, I love giving practical action steps to men. Do you think your listeners would love a really practical way to learn how to ask questions, even if they don\u2019t even get the book?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Sure!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Okay; here it is, men: you take the last word of the sentence you just heard or the <em>key<\/em> word of the sentence you just heard to ask a follow-up. Sometimes when you go, \u201cI\u2019m out,\u201d you\u2019re like, \u201cI don\u2019t even know what to say next. There were so many words, you lost me a couple exits back!\u201d [Laughter] Okay, key word or last word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou pick her up from school and you go, \u201cHi, honey! How was your day?\u201d She says\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>She says [speeds up talking], \u201cWell, this happened first; and then this happened; and then this; then\u2026\u201d Or she says, \u201cIt was fine.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Men would say, \u201cOh, good! I\u2019m glad you had a good day!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cWe\u2019re done!\u201d\u2014yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>You get home; and Mom goes, \u201cHow was your day?\u201d and you go, \u201cFine.\u201d Well, that\u2019s a non-answer answer on Venus. We think, \u201cIf you really cared, you\u2019d ask us more questions.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Well, I would think, if she said, \u201cFine,\u201d something happened today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>That\u2019s a clue, like, \u201cOh boy, I need to dig in here.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Whereas men think, \u201cIf she wants to tell me more, she\u2019ll tell me more.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>You\u2019re telling me I should just go, \u201cWhat\u2019s \u2018fine\u2019 mean? What was fine?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Yes, bingo! Take those\u2014who, what, when, where, why, how\u2014that we learned in school and link it up with whatever you hear. The more a dad can <em>listen<\/em> to his daughter, he gives her a gift of building her self-esteem; because he\u2019s saying, \u201cYou\u2019re worth listening to,\u201d so that she doesn\u2019t have to go out\u2014I say \u201cthe world\u201d in quotes\u2014everywhere else in order to be heard, because Daddy wants to hear her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you listen to your daughter, you esteem her; you give her a gift. If you\u2019re lost in that conversation, what are the two things?\u2014last word or the key word in the sentence\u2014hook it up with a who, what, when, where, why, how. See if it\u2019s a different kind of conversation that you\u2019ll have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I just say, \u201cThis is fascinating; tell me more.\u201d You don\u2019t have even have to be paying attention to say that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Oh! [Laughter] I kind of melt just hearing that; like, \u201cOh, do you really want to hear more?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Look at her looking at me! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Dave, inside, could be thinking, \u201cNo; I don\u2019t want to, but I\u2019m smiling and saying\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>No, I do; I mean, if you love someone, you do want to know more.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>You do really want to know their heart. It\u2019s work\u2014I have to be honest; sometimes, it\u2019s work with a wife, or a daughter, or a son\u2014it\u2019s just work. Sometimes, you get exhausted and tired; and you don\u2019t want to put in the energy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think all of us, sitting around this table, are old enough to say, \u201cThey\u2019re going to be gone before you know it. You\u2019re going to blink\u2026\u201d We used to say, \u201cOh, it\u2019s forever\u201d; no, you\u2019re going to blink; and you don\u2019t want to miss this moment\u2014you have her in the car; you have her on a date; you have whatever\u2014don\u2019t miss this moment. Do the work to draw out her heart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Maybe you\u2019re a grandfather, and you did miss the moment with your girls. It\u2019s never too late to reestablish that relationship, and even with your grandkids, it could look different. Have you seen that, where men go back to their adult daughters?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Absolutely! I love that you just said, Ann, \u201cIt\u2019s never too late\u201d; because again, I have seen more tears from men over that idea of either they\u2019re estranged from their daughters, there\u2019s been divorce and they\u2019re out, and it does feel like they\u2019ll <em>never<\/em> win her heart back like it was when she was little. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI tell dads: \u201cOkay, here\u2019s another practical idea. Get a journal and begin to document in it with date and time prayers for her, thoughts for her, memories you have of her, dreams for her future, things you wish you could tell her.\u201d I believe that, when God works to put that relationship back together, you will have this time capsule of data to say, \u201cSee, you were never far from my heart. I don\u2019t care what you heard or what you believed.\u201d Again, you\u2019re building that bridge to God, as a Father, who says, \u201cI don\u2019t care how much of a pill you are; I am <em>never<\/em> turning my back on you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I remember being 14, and I have two brothers and a sister that are older. At 14, I would have said, \u201cI really don\u2019t know my dad.\u201d I would have told a counselor, \u201cI feel very unseen; my dad doesn\u2019t hear me.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy uncle had cancer, and my mom was taking him to chemotherapy when I was 14. My dad and I\u2014I\u2019m the youngest\u2014so it was just my dad and I alone. My dad isn\u2019t a cook; so he said, \u201cLet\u2019s go out to eat.\u201d I felt so nervous, as a 14-year-old; I thought, \u201cI don\u2019t know this guy; he\u2019s never really talked to me.\u201d We sat at Bill Knapp\u2019s; and as he sat and he drank his coffee, for the first time he started asking me questions about <em>me<\/em>. That had never happened! That happened for probably six months; and it brings tears to my eyes, because it was the first time my dad <em>saw<\/em> me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I tell him that\u2014my dad\u2019s 92\u2014and I tell him, now, that is when everything shifted for me. That relationship has just continued to grow; even at 92, I\u2019m still learning things about my dad.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>I\u2019m so glad you shared that, Ann, because even with my dad\u2014I\u2019m the oldest of four girls\u2014and I\u2019ve always been a mouth; I mean, my report card said: \u201cMichelle talks too much.\u201d A few years ago\/maybe five, I remember my dad and I were talking about words. He actually said to me, \u201cMichelle, I\u2019m going to be honest with you; your words wear me out.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Oh!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>I said, \u201cI\u2019m glad you\u2019re telling me.\u201d As we know, God made us as introverts or extroverts, and we don\u2019t choose that. I think, really, dads that are listening need to hear that it\u2019s up to them to draw into the power of the Triune God\u2014God is a Father; the Holy Spirit is a nurturer\/comforter; Jesus is an ally\u2014the Trinity is around you 24\/7. You will have what you need to engage the heart of your daughter, because the God who made [her] is your ally.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tListen to the women in your lives\u2014her mom, an aunt, ask a coworker\u2014\u201cWhat were you like at 14? What did <em>you<\/em> need?\u201d Let women be coaches. That\u2019s another thing that is practical that may help men do what your dad did. But I love that you said, \u201cHe asked me questions.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes, it was the greatest gift. He wasn\u2019t rebuking; he wasn\u2019t correcting me; he just listened. He\u2019s great at that; isn\u2019t he, Dave?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>He is one of the best question-askers. You come to his house; he\u2019s going to ask you everything.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe fact that he wasn\u2019t doing that with Ann, and then started doing that, I think it\u2019s a big theme of your book that I found very important for us men to understand is: \u201cWe have what it takes.\u201d Talk about that a little bit; because I know, when we first got married, and then when I first became a dad, I thought, \u201cI don\u2019t have what it takes, because I didn\u2019t have a dad. I never saw it; I don\u2019t know what it looks like; I\u2019m not sure what to do.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s a part of men that becomes passive then\u2014like, \u201cWell, she does; she\u2019ll do a great job, and I\u2019ll just watch,\u201d\u2014yet, we\u2019re called to <em>step in<\/em>. We sort of think, \u201cI\u2019m not good at this. I\u2019m going to go do what I\u2019m good at\/I can work well\u201d; you know. Talk about that\u2014you believe fathers do have it\u2014why do you believe that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Well, because God says they do. We don\u2019t sign up to qualify to be a parent; right? God is saying, \u201cI\u2019m endowing you with what you need in the Spirit.\u201d The truth is that the God who made you will equip you\u2014right?\u2014because you\u2019re called to do this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy dad, much like you\u2014he grew up on the south side of Chicago\u2014seven kids, three different last names. His dad was an alcoholic; died of gangrene. He left when my dad\u2019s mom put an iron on his face.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Whoa!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>That was the last time he left. My dad was in gangs from the time he was 12; I mean, no template of how to be a father. That\u2019s not an exaggeration. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, when I\u2019m six years old, my parents come to Christ. It\u2019s kind of a big steep learning curve there; he had no template.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>This is like you, honey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>I don\u2019t know what your story is, Dave; but I imagine you\u2019re a bit like my dad\u2014get around men, who you admire as fathers, and say, \u201cCan we meet for coffee?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Let them teach you\u2014that\u2019s what my dad did\u2014went to seminary; became a pastor. Men would say, \u201cYou know, you need to get up 15 minutes earlier and do quiet times with your family before school.\u201d My dad comes home, \u201cWe\u2019re getting up \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t15 minutes earlier!\u201d We\u2019re like, \u201cNo!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI look back at that; when I went to Bible college, I remember taking a class on creating family worship\u2014what that looks like\u2014and I\u2019m like, \u201cThis is crazy! That\u2019s what my dad did!\u201d\u2014not because anyone taught him inherently\u2014but I think he <em>watched<\/em> good dads, and then emulated that, and brought it home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>It\u2019s interesting; in your book you have that FATHER acrostic. Honestly, when I saw the \u201cF\u201d and I saw the word, \u201c First,\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cWell, I\u2019m going to go to the next one; there\u2019s nothing here; \u2018What\u2019s \u201cFirst\u201d\u2019?\u201d Then I read it; and I\u2019m like, \u201cGenius, we are the ones to initiate <em>first<\/em>.\u201d It\u2019s so easy, as a dad, to wait for our daughter, wait for our son, wait for our spouse. No, no, no, no; <em>first<\/em>, you initiate.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know as dads\u2014all parents probably experience this\u2014when your kids become teenagers and start to pull away from you\u2014which is totally normal and they should\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>\u2014we let them pull away; and we\u2019re like, \u201cOkay, I guess I\u2019m sort of done,\u201d rather than, \u201cNo, no; it\u2019s on me first. I need to pursue them.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>\u201cI need a different skillset.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s another practical idea for dads: if your daughter\u2019s starting to pull away\u2014and she\u2019s at \u201cthat age,\u201d where peers matter more, her physical appearance matters more, makeup, hair\u2014right?\u2014pre-adolescence\u2014Dad, go get a pad of sticky notes, or a dry erase marker. Go right on your daughter\u2019s mirrors. When she looks in that mirror she sees every flaw; doesn\u2019t she?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Oh, absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>\u2014every flaw! The voice in our head says\u2014I mean, the stuff I hear from daughters at my counseling office is like\u2014beautiful women say they\u2019ll hear, \u201cYou fat pig\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>It starts when they\u2019re young\/like early teens.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Young! I\u2019ve even heard some as young as ten already hearing this voice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIsn\u2019t it interesting?\u2014when I ask my counseling clients, they think I\u2019m really smart, but I\u2019m really not. When I just <em>listen<\/em>, it\u2019s always second person:\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes; \u201cYou.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>It\u2019s \u201cyou\u201d!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes; \u201cYou are.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>\u201cYou are fat,\u201d \u201cYou <em>aren\u2019t<\/em> this,\u201d or \u201cYou are that.\u201d Well, doesn\u2019t that invite the question, \u201cWho\u2019s talking?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>It\u2019s the father of lies.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>It is the father of lies!\u2014exactly! So dads\u2014again, because you represent God, as a father\u2014get a pad of sticky notes, or a dry-erase marker, and write on her mirror\u2014in her bathroom, in her bedroom, you can even do the rearview mirror of her car if she\u2019s driving\u2014saying: \u201cI\u2019m proud of you,\u201d \u201cI love you,\u201d \u201cI\u2019m praying for you,\u201d \u201cYou\u2019re beautiful to me.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Oh, there is so much power in that! I think of myself looking in the mirror. I would guess most girls, looking in the mirror, are hearing the negative. With social media today, it\u2019s like a bullhorn in your head. I remember thinking: \u201cYou\u2019re so fat,\u201d \u201cYou\u2019re so ugly,\u201d \u201cYou\u2019re so\u2026\u201d It was this onslaught of these lies.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf my dad would have put one thing on it, one time in my life, I would remember it; it would be a milestone marker.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>It would counter what she\u2019s hearing in her head in real time. I\u2019ve had dads do this for the last decade. They\u2019ll send me pictures, where they\u2019ll say, \u201cThe sticky note I put in the bathroom is now on her bedroom wall! She saved it!\u201d Or they\u2019re lined up\u2014the sticky notes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had one dad say, \u201cThat\u2019s from five months ago, and she hasn\u2019t taken it down.\u201d Dads, your voice\/your view of your daughter is going to stick with her and be internalized long after you\u2019re gone.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>You just hit the \u201cA\u201d of the FATHER acrostic. Some listeners are like, \u201cUh-oh, you started an acrostic; you have to finish it.\u201d But First, and the \u201cA\u201d is Affirm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>You\u2019re talking about five deposits to one withdrawal. You\u2019re just <em>affirming<\/em>, whether it\u2019s writing a sticky note or, <em>especially<\/em>, speaking it; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>The \u201cT\u201d we\u2019ve talked about quite a bit is Talk.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Yes! There\u2019s a key thing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Just talk and draw her out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>\u2014and listen; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>You have the book and you have the questions [to help draw her out]. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe \u201cH\u201d is Humor; what is that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>That\u2019s why I started with it, because\/did you know that neuroscientists <em>confirm<\/em> that laughter releases chemicals in our brains that <em>strengthen<\/em> long-term relationships and reinforce social bonding? The other thing is it releases oxytocin that counters cortisol, which is a stress hormone. So dad, if you have kind of a bombed-out bridge with your daughter, find ways to engage her in things that make her laugh.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>That\u2019s good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>The \u201cE\u201d is Engage. How is that different than what we\u2019ve already said?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>It means that you find out what she\u2019s interested in and then you do it <em>with<\/em> her\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Simple as that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>\u2014even if you\u2019re uncomfortable! If she loves baking, you go get in the kitchen, where you\u2019re the one that doesn\u2019t know what you\u2019re doing; and you let her teach you. But you engage in things that <em>she\u2019s<\/em> interested in, and that\u2019s another <em>powerful<\/em> bonding thing; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I would agree, too. I\u2019m just imagining my dad coming to the kitchen if I was a teenager. At first, I\u2019d be like, \u201cWhat are you doing? This is weird.\u201d Don\u2019t take anything personally that she could <em>say<\/em>; because inwardly, she is jumping up and down, celebrating that you\u2019re engaging with her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Yes, exactly!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Finally, we have the \u201cR\u201d, which is Reach. What\u2019s that mean?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Well, again, it\u2019s up to you, dad, to reach toward her. Isn\u2019t that what God, as a Father does?\u2014He sent Jesus down to reach into our heart space. As you reach out toward her\u2014whether it\u2019s physical contact, like we talked about last time, the importance of hugging and finding ways to engage her in safe touch\u2014right?\u2014that honors her but is still pursuing her. Really, that reaching out, she\u2019ll never forget it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of my favorite things that my dad\u2019s done for, at least, 30 years is at Christmas\u2014he went to a men\u2019s conference once; and they said, \u201cCome up with a way to reach your kids,\u201d\u2014\u201cWhat do girls like?\u201d\u2014they like perfume! So my dad has done this thing every Christmas, where, usually on about the 23<sup>rd<\/sup> or 24<sup>th<\/sup>, we go to Nordstrom and have lunch. We sit in the perfume section, and I try perfume on my arms. He helps decide which one I want; you know how expensive perfume is now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong><em>All<\/em> the clerks are like, \u201cOh! I wish <em>my<\/em> dad would do that!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Here\u2019s the cool thing. I\u2019m telling you\u2014the last one I chose\u2014it was <em>not<\/em> cheap. I almost felt bad; I tend to be extravagant. When I receive, it\u2019s harder to take it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Me, too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>But inside, I was so grateful that my dad would spend the money on me; because where his treasure is, there his heart is. That told me I had his heart, because he paid so much money for this perfume. Every time I do things all year long, and I put that perfume on, what does it remind me of?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Your dad.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Yes, that my dad loves me and <em>invested<\/em> in me. There\u2019s just another practical way that a dad could reach out to his daughter by taking her on a traditional date. If she\u2019s not into perfume, do books; I\u2019ve had dads go through the aisles of bookstores and buy three books. Or do a painting project or something that she loves.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I\u2019m imagining every woman listening to this, that has a daughter, is thinking, \u201cMy husband needs to hear this!\u201d I think there\u2019s a part of every man, if his wife sends it to him, he\u2019ll think, \u201cSee, I\u2019m doing it all wrong again; and she\u2019s critiquing me again.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCoach us just for a minute\u2014for us women\u2014we\u2019re so excited about this, and maybe our husbands wouldn\u2019t necessarily listen. How can we help him and encourage him, even to listen or to get the book?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s called Oreo<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> cookie communication: the top cookie is the positive; the middle\u2014we can only handle so much of that middle stuff; right?\u2014and the bottom\/the next cookie is the positive: positive, negative, positive. Start with the positive; you can tell him, \u201cI\u2019m so grateful that you\u2019re our kids\u2019 dad; and yet, at the end of the day, you speak Martian; I speak Venusian. I get that our daughter is really hard to reach at this age\u2014she\u2019s 15\u2014she doesn\u2019t really want to be with you. Hey, this woman wrote this book for dads; and she\u2019s a woman. She says if it bombs, just blame <em>her<\/em>; so you can\u2019t do it wrong!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve found men <em>want<\/em> to do it right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>They\u2019re going, \u201cBut I don\u2019t even know what that looks like.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>I\u2019m really allying with that place in men that says, \u201cI want to get it right, and I don\u2019t even know what <em>that<\/em> looks like.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen I say to dads, \u201cYou don\u2019t have to tell your kids where you get the idea. You get full credit.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>That\u2019s good; that\u2019s good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You really have spelled it out for us in the book, <em>Let\u2019s Talk: Conversation Starters for Dads and Daughters<\/em>. We are making that book available this week to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners\u2014those of you, who are regular listeners and want to pitch in to help the ongoing work of this ministry\u2014help make <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> possible, not only for yourself, but for your community and for people all around the world. There are hundreds of thousands of people, every day, who depend on the practical biblical help and hope they\u2019re receiving from <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> to help them navigate the challenges of marriage and family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou make this program possible for others and for yourself every time you make a donation. We\u2019re grateful for those of you who are monthly Legacy Partners; and we\u2019re grateful for those of you who will, from time to time, pick up the phone or go online and make a donation to advance the work of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, when you make that donation today, you can request your copy of Michelle Watson Canfield\u2019s book, <em>Let\u2019s Talk: Conversation Starters for Dads and Daughters<\/em>. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to donate, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Again, the website for a donation: FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can donate by calling 1-800-358-6329; that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to ask you to be praying for what\u2019s going to be happening this Saturday, our <em>Blended &amp; Blessed<\/em> event for couples, who are in blended families and stepfamilies. Ron Deal gives leadership to that. We have hundreds of people who have signed up to join us. It\u2019s not too late to sign up if you\u2019d like to join either on your own, or with a small group, or a church group. You can find out more when you go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com. But please pray for this event. Pray that God would use it in a powerful way in the lives of those who are trying to work out the challenges associated with a blended family and trying to do that in a way that honors the Lord. Again, find out more about <em>Blended &amp; Blessed 2021<\/em> when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBe sure to join us, again, tomorrow when we\u2019ll continue talking about how dads can pursue their daughters, win the hearts of their daughters, build a stronger relationship with their girls. Michelle Watson Canfield\u2019s going to join us again tomorrow. I hope you can join us as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch. 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