{"id":306806,"date":"2021-04-02T07:00:05","date_gmt":"2021-04-02T11:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/radically-ordinary-hospitality\/"},"modified":"2021-04-02T07:00:05","modified_gmt":"2021-04-02T11:00:05","slug":"radically-ordinary-hospitality","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/radically-ordinary-hospitality\/","title":{"rendered":"Radically Ordinary Hospitality"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In today&#8217;s world, it&#8217;s easy to doubt we have what it takes to reach our neighbors for Christ. 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Chris and Elizabeth McKinney debunk that myth and about discovering God's purpose for where He's placed us.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, April 2<sup>nd<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I\u2019m Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. In a culture, where loneliness and isolation are a reality, Chris and Elizabeth McKinney say, \u201cWe have a lot of ministry opportunities that have opened up to us.\u201d We\u2019ll talk more about those today. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. Is it proper to say you are convicted by something if, after you were convicted, you didn\u2019t do anything to change? Do you know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Bob! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Why do ask these\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Why do you bring up these <em>hard<\/em> questions?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014deep theological questions? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He\u2019s good; he\u2019s going to convict us <em>again<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You know, Bob, I don\u2019t know; I <em>always<\/em> do what I\u2019m convicted by\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Oh, no you don\u2019t! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014ask my wife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> No, you don\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> She would probably know. No, I don\u2019t; none of us do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m asking this because, a couple of years back, we had one of our friends, Rosaria Butterfield, as a guest on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. She had just written a book called <em>The Gospel Comes with a House Key<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Such a good book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It is a great book. It\u2019s all about hospitality. It\u2019s about\u2014as she calls it\u2014radical ordinary hospitality. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I was convicted by that, Bob, too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I was convicted, and I\u2019m thinking that that was two years ago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So what did you do? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s the point. [Laughter] That\u2019s why I\u2019m asking. I was convicted, and I don\u2019t know that anything has dramatically changed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wait; so you\u2019re in <em>sin<\/em>. Okay; keep going. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So we\/so one of the things we asked her about was: \u201cHow do you begin the process?\u201d\u2014or what has worked for her? Let me just play back for you guys what she described, that I thought, \u201cThat\u2019s a great idea.\u201d It\u2019s one of those things that we still don\u2019t do, and haven\u2019t done, but here is what she said. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rosaria:<\/strong> If you want your neighbors to come to Christ, some of your neighbors\/their lives are deeply burdened by both abuse and also by addiction. If you want people, who are struggling in those areas, to come to your home for dinner, for example\u2014issuing an invitation three Tuesdays from yesterday doesn\u2019t help very much\u2014because you know, quite frankly, they don\u2019t know if they are going to be sober or safe that day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut simply saying, \u201cHey, every Thursday night, we\u2019re going to have an open house.\u201d By open house, I mean, here is what we do; because we do this every Thursday night. I cook soup and bread\u2014not very glamourous\u2014if you don\u2019t like it, bring something. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Now hold it; hold it. Is it minestrone soup? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rosaria:<\/strong> Sometimes it is; that\u2019s one of my favorites because\u2014you know what?\u2014it is cheap, and it is easy. [Laughter] I cook soup and bread. Neighbors come in; and then at a certain point, the children gather the plates; they go up to the sink. And then the Bibles and the coffee cups come out. It\u2019s not an open house in that we\u2019re going to talk about politics; it\u2019s not an open house in that we\u2019re going to talk about plummeting housing values. At some point, the conversation is going to switch. We\u2019re going to bring our conversation to Jesus so that Jesus can enter into the conversation\u2014not to stop it\u2014but to <em>deepen<\/em> it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I hear that again, and I think\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m convicted, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cThat\u2019s genius.\u201d You\u2019re convicted that we\/Mary Ann and I should have people over at our house.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> No; I\u2019m convicted that <em>we<\/em> should. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, like you said, it\u2019s like, \u201cWow!\u201d You hear that, and you are inspired. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; it\u2019s what we\u2019re talking about this week. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got some friends, who are joining us, to do this. Chris and Elizabeth McKinney are with us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Guys, welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> Thanks. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The McKinneys live in Columbia, Missouri\u2014been on staff with Cru<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\/Campus Crusade for Christ<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> for 20 years\u2014you are focused, now, on how to promote ministry\/evangelism in the community, not on the campus. I mean, there is great stuff going on\u2014on the Mizzou campus\u2014but you guys are focused on Columbia, and Jefferson City, and that whole area. You\u2019re focused on your neighbors, not just as a part of your ministry, but as a part of your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHave you ever thought about, like every Tuesday night, dinner at your house?\u2014soup and bread. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> You know, I haven\u2019t; I love that Rosaria does that. I think neighboring\u2014it\u2019s not a one-size-fits-all; it\u2019s not a cut and paste\/kind of cookie-cutter type thing\u2014it\u2019s going to look very different: depending on your wiring, your personality, if you\u2019re an introvert or an extrovert, your season of life. I think, even in our marriage\u2014Chris is an introvert; I\u2019m an extrovert\u2014we come to neighboring, and we bring our own kind of style to it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, what does that look like? Did you guys ever disagree, like, \u201cDo we <em>have<\/em> to have people over again?!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> We never disagree. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, I forgot you guys are perfect\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> Right. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014like us! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWas there a point\/like were you both gamers in this whole concept of neighboring? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes; I think because it started off with just wanting to get to know our neighbors and have fun. I think we both had a desire to want to help build community in our neighborhood. We knew we needed that community; we knew our neighbors needed that community. By God\u2019s grace, I think we kind of both found our niche in it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tElizabeth did a lot of the inviting, the connecting, the organizing\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014as the extrovert would do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> \u2014as the extrovert would do. I got to\u2014you know, it\u2019s not like I don\u2019t talk to anybody\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but I got to help a lot with the serving; you know? I got to sling cotton candy for kids for a couple of hours, and build into some of those relationships, that I had kind of established already. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> And on the strengths finder, you have context, which\u2014so neighboring for you, instead of kind of every four years, having to reestablish [relationship] like with college ministry\u2014kind of meeting all these new people all the time\/all the small talk\u2014you love the ongoing building into relationships\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> \u2014with people that are sustained over time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So there isn\u2019t a Tuesday night at the McKinney\u2019s house, but there is some kind of rhythm? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Talk about: \u201cWhat\u2019s that look like?\u201d You guys are the models of what we\u2019re trying to be like. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> No. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, you wrote a book on it; so you must be an expert. No; seriously, is there some kind of rhythm that you\u2019ve sort of laid out? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> There is for us\u2014but we, in our book\/our book is more of a\u2014it\u2019s really a Bible study. We don\u2019t really lay out like: \u201cThis is the prototype for neighboring,\u201d in our book; we give a lot of different ideas for things you can try. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur personal rhythm, just because it works for us, is we do love the parties. I love a party; I\u2019m a sucker for a party. We kind of start off with an Easter egg hunt. We have a team of people who\u2014we had, I think, on our hunt committee\u2014we had a mom from Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, China, India; I mean, it was all these\/the world\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s really cool. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> \u2014helping with these Easter egg hunts. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we do a Bite of the World Food Fest in the spring, where people bring different dishes from their heritage; and kids can come. You get a little bite from around the world, and that\u2019s a lot of fun. We do our block party, of course. We do a Fourth of July bike parade. We do Halloween. We\u2019re doing a turkey trot this year, where we\u2019re going to space out; and we provide hot chocolate and doughnuts. It\u2019s an outdoor type of thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLast year, we did a neighbors-giving\u2014where instead of friends-giving after Thanksgiving\u2014we said to some of our neighbors from India, \u201cWe\u2019ll do leftovers at our house. You guys bring your leftovers; we\u2019ll have ours,\u201d\u2014which we were, obviously, the\/we came out the winners in that; because they brought chicken masala and all these different dishes that were amazing. We had leftover turkey and mashed potatoes; so\u2014but we had pie, too\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but that was a lot of fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we do, normally\u2014we\u2019re not doing it this year\u2014but we do like a holiday open house, where we take pictures with Santa. There is a hayride with tours of the neighborhood lights and that type of thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here is the great thing about what you\u2019re saying. We hear Rosaria and her every Tuesday night. We hear you guys and your four or five neighborhood festivals that you do. This can really be: \u201cWhat is\/what\u2019s your rhythm? What\u2019s your personality? What\u2019s your temperament? How can you be intentional about having some kind of a connection with your neighbor?\u201d When we use the term, \u201cneighbor,\u201d you guys are\u2014this is one of the things you talk about. We\u2019re not talking about neighbor in a conceptual sense; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re talking about your neighbor neighbor\u2014the real thing\u2014right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Your literal next-door neighbor. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> Imagine that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, I like that because, as you were saying, Elizabeth, you like a good party; that\u2019s part of who you are. To gather, periodically, to have a good party would be your personality. Then, because I was thinking, \u201cI don\u2019t know how we would have done that.\u201d As I\u2019m listening to all of this, I\u2019m thinking, \u201cI think sometimes it may require giving up something,\u201d because our kids were in sports almost every night of the week. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think it\u2019s important to ask God: \u201cGod, what could this look like for me?\u201d because we are called to love the people around us; we\u2019re called to love our neighbors. To also pray and ask God: \u201cGod, what does this look like?\u201d Even as a family with young kids in the house?\u2014\u201cKids, what could this look like for us to get to know our neighbors?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes; we\/our kids have grown up doing this; they kind of have an idea. But even just a small step that you could take with your family is\u2014every night\/now most nights\u2014when we do prayers, I know, for me especially, we always pray that our neighbors would experience God\u2019s love and come to know Jesus. It\u2019s just prayer that we have that our kids are used to hearing. Even when we think about taking just small steps in your neighboring, just praying, as a family, starting off is a great way to start neighboring; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; and you said in the book, it could just be these small\u2014because when you were talking about the parties\u2014there is part of me going, \u201cWow! Those are big; those are epic. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019m not sure I could pull something like that off.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Honey, you would be really good at that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cI would like it\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Bob, so would you! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cif somebody organized it. I\u2019d be the clown or whatever.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019d be the circus master. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m thinking\/because there is a whole section of your book I thought was very important for us to understand; it\u2019s that: \u201cYou can\u2019t love your neighbor if you don\u2019t see them.\u201d I\u2019ve often thought, \u201cI see my neighbor across the street; but I don\u2019t, because I\u2019m busy. I worked all day.\u201d I can\u2014I\u2019ve said on our stage\u2014\u201cI haven\u2019t done it\u201d; but I\u2019ve said to our church, \u201cYou should do this. You\u2019re pulling in from work; and Bob, across the street, is in his driveway. Don\u2019t go in your house. Take <em>five<\/em> minutes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cnot thirty\u2014three to five minutes. At least, walk to the end of your driveway and say: \u2018Hey man! What\u2019s up?\u201d \u201cMan, how are you doing?\u2019\u201d Or pretend you\u2019re getting the mail and just strike up a conversation. [Laughter] That five minutes could just\u2014do you know what I\u2019m saying? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve even said this\u2014tell me if you agree\u2014and I don\u2019t know; this is probably a misuse of a Bible story. When Jesus asks the woman at the well for a drink, you think, \u201cWow! What\u2019s He doing asking her for something?\u201d I thought, \u201cIf you really want to love your neighbor, ask him for something.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You would think, \u201cNo,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cI want to wait for them to ask me.\u201d No; borrow a tool. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019ve spent many minutes in my neighbor\u2019s garage\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014getting a tool\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014that they have. And the next thing you know, you\u2019re not just returning a tool, you end up in a conversation. You never know where it\u2019s going to go. Is that how you <em>see<\/em> your neighbor? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Oh, yes. I mean, asking for help is one of the best neighboring tools\/ways to neighbor out there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can\u2014there\u2019s a story\u2014there was a guy I was coaching; we call it neighbor coaching, where we try to help people kind of begin to figure this out. He\/we were talking about his neighbor. I was like, \u201cAsk for help; ask for something.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we got back together, he came back and told this story, where he needed his yard aerated. He didn\u2019t have a pickup truck, and he didn\u2019t want to hire somebody to do it. His neighbor had a pickup truck; he kind of knew him, but not super well. He just said, \u201cI\u2019m just going to ask for help.\u201d He goes over and says, \u201cHey, would you mind helping me go pick up an aerator and help me aerate my lawn? You have the pickup; can we use your pickup?\u201d The guy was\/his neighbor was so excited to help, like, \u201cWe love to help; it\u2019s fun to help.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut it\u2019s vulnerable to ask for help, so he took that step. They went and got the aerator. They got it; they did his lawn; they took it back. They spent the whole day together. And then this guy, who I was neighbor-coaching, said\/he said, \u201cWell, thank you so much. As a way to say, \u2018Thank you,\u2019 we want to have you and your family over for dinner as a way to say, \u2018Thank you.\u2019\u201d That led to <em>another<\/em> opportunity to interact with his neighbor. So, yes, asking for help is a <em>great<\/em> way to get to know your neighbor and start those relationships. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> Recently, my sister has been reading the book. She said that they were at the park with their kids. They\u2014it was like a neighborhood park\u2014she started interacting with this other couple. The wife turned to her, after talking for about 20 minutes, and said, \u201cYou know, this is the most interaction I\u2019ve had with someone in two years,\u201d\u2014as far as social interaction with someone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> You know, she probably works, where she comes home from work. If you don\u2019t work with a lot of people, or if you work from your home, a lot of people are pretty isolated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and lonely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> And if we\u2019re honest, sometimes, we\u2019re lonely. That\u2019s where I think neighboring\u2014sometimes, we kind of get this idea of like, \u201cOh, we\u2014the neighbors need us\u2014we need to reach out to them\u201d; but we can meet that need in each other\u2019s lives, too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, answer this: \u201cHow do you love your neighbor\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cwhen you don\u2019t like them?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cif you don\u2019t like them?\u201d [Laughter] Now, we\u2019ve <em>never<\/em> had this. I\u2019m kidding, but I\u2019m not. It\u2019s like we\u2019re <em>called<\/em>\u2014we\u2019re talking about this vision of our address is not an accident\u2014so God has placed us, and their address is not an accident. Here we are; we know God wants us to love them. Yet, they <em>bug<\/em> us: you know, they play music too loud; their dog poops in our\/their kid poops in our front yard; you know? [Laughter] ;It\u2019s like they sort of irritate me; you know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Again, I\u2019m being hypothetical here; because I\u2019ve never in my life experienced it. No; seriously. You see them walking toward your driveway, or you see them in their driveway\u2014you hear me in your head: \u201cGo spend five minutes with them,\u201d\u2014and you\u2019re thinking, \u201cI don\u2019t want to; I\u2019d much rather go in and spend five minutes with my kids.\u201d How do you love the un-loveable? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> Well, we call that the non-neighbor really; and sometimes, we don\u2019t want to admit it; but maybe, we\u2019re the non-neighbor. [Laughter] I think of all the bikes, and scooters, and socks my kids leave in our driveway and the neighbors\u2019 driveway. I\u2019m like, \u201cWe are the non-neighbors sometimes.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut really, in the parable of the Good Samaritan, where Jesus\/He highlights a man, who stops and is the Good Samaritan. He is a neighbor to someone who is very unlike him. I think, in our culture, where we are so polarized, and there is so much hostility, we kind of have an idea when our pastor says, \u201cLove your neighbor.\u201d If we\u2019re honest, it\u2019s kind of our family and friends and the people we like\u2014those are the people who we think of when we think, \u201cLove my neighbor,\u201d\u2014I don\u2019t necessarily want to think of someone that I don\u2019t like or someone that might be different from me in a certain regard. I think it\u2019s important, as we neighbor, we can get outside of that bubble. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes; we also, in thinking about this, came up with this idea of this neighboring grid and how to <em>see<\/em> people. We\u2019ve noticed\/for instance, Francis Schaffer said that \u201cWe are all glorious ruins.\u201d We are\/we have this element of glory, because we are created in the image of God; but then, we also have this ruin that\u2019s brought by the Fall in both our neighbors and in ourselves. When we only see the things that might be ruin or might annoy us\u2014you know?\u2014it may not be because it\u2019s ruined, but it might just be a different preference on something\u2014we judge them; they become a non-neighbor. We find it hard to find common ground, and we don\u2019t see them or interact with them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOn the flip side, you could also see just kind of this glory part and not remember that they, also, are struggling. When that happens, you just see this like perfect image of your neighbor. You\u2019re like, \u201cMan, they have it all together. They don\u2019t need me; they don\u2019t want me to interact with them.\u201d And a wave\/smile\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> They are like the Joneses. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> \u2014they are the Joneses. You forget that they have needs in their lives as well. There is ruin, and there is stuff that is happening there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo see people well, the way Jesus saw people\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> Well, don\u2019t forget about the invisible neighbor; right?\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> \u2014that\u2019s one we don\u2019t see them at all. They are just faceless; they are nameless; right? That\u2019s the pulling into the garage, and we don\u2019t even see our neighbors. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes; but when you see people as glorious ruins, you\u2014the glory can motivate your respect for that person\u2014you can say, \u201cBecause they are created in the image of God, surely, there is a point of common ground that I can find. There is grace for them like I want grace for myself.\u201d You see the ruin, which can motivate your compassion. You know, you want compassion for yourself for the ways that you are broken; well, your neighbor wants that as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKind of trying to pull those two together\u2014it can be hard, especially with people who don\u2019t think the way you do, vote the way you do, look the way you do\u2014but that\u2019s\/we\u2019re called out into that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Have you sensed any impact on your family or on your marriage as you try to live out this: \u201cWe are placed for a purpose\u201d vision? Does it help your marriage? Does it hurt your marriage? Does it impact your family at all? Does it impact your parenting, or how you are giving a vision to your kids? Is it a good thing? Is it an intrusive thing? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> I think, as a family\u2014like you hear of mission\u2014you could take a mission\u2019s trip with your family. That can be challenging to do\u2014right?\u2014if you want to bring all your kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of times, I think we think of missions as something that\u2019s going on <em>out there<\/em>. But if you begin to see yourself as placed for a purpose, your family\u2014you can be missionaries right where you are\u2014if you begin to talk about it with your kids; pray about it with your kids; and just say, \u201cHey, God has put us here; and He has put our neighbors around us, too. Yes, maybe, it\u2019s kind of\u2014we don\u2019t understand all of the ins and outs\u2014but we could, maybe, love on them and do this together as a family.\u201d I think neighboring provides a way for families to experience being on mission for God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> That\u2019s messy sometimes\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> \u2014but that is good, too. Like our daughter, Ginger\u2014one of my neighbors came up to me in the last year and said\u2014\u201cOh, Ginger\/she\u2019s been asking me if I\u2019ve been reading the Bible to the boys.\u201d [Laughter] I go, [questioningly] \u201cOkay, what did you say?\u201d\u2014this was at the mailbox. She said, \u201cWell, I told her, \u2018No, I\u2019m not doing that,\u2019 but I appreciate whenever <em>she<\/em> talks to them about what she\u2019s learning from the Bible.\u201d I was <em>so<\/em> uncomfortable\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> \u2014in that moment. I think that was a good uncomfortable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; because you\u2019re kids are getting a vision. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> Exactly! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here is the takeaway, I think, for all of us: in the same way that we have come to use the noun, \u201cGoogle\u201d<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, as a verb\u2014\u201cWe googled it,\u201d\u2014we need to use the noun, \u201cneighbor\u201d as a verb as well. You\u2019ve done that; <em>neighboring<\/em> is how we\u2019ve talking about it here\u2014and say, \u201cOkay; part of what we are called to do by God\/part of the commission we\u2019ve been given by God is to love our neighbor\u2014that\u2019s neighboring\u2014is loving your neighbor.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You want to hear some\u2014I\u2019ll close with this\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014because Bob, I think you just set this up. I\u2019m sure you are familiar with this, but \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJohn 1:14\u2014I\u2019ll read it; it says\u2014\u201cThe Word became flesh\u201d\u2014talking about Jesus\u2014\u201cand made His dwelling among us.\u201d I remember, when I studied that in the original, it means: \u201cHe pitched His tent\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201camong us.\u201d I did a sermon, years ago, called \u201cMove into the Neighborhood: That\u2019s What Jesus Did.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dave:<\/strong> He moved into our neighborhood. He didn\u2019t stand up in the sky and say, \u201cI love you.\u201d He moved in and became\u2014what?\u2014one of us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> \u2014our neighbor. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s what He has called us to be; we are to move in and incarnate Jesus to our neighbors. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You guys have modeled this, and now you are giving us instruction on it in your book. Thank you for being here, and thanks for sharing with the audience. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Chris:<\/strong> Thank you so much. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Elizabeth:<\/strong> Thanks for having us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And for those who are inspired, motivated, convicted\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014convicted. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014go to our website\/go to FamilyLifeToday.com and get a copy of Chris and Elizabeth\u2019s book, <em>Placed for a Purpose: A Simple and Sustainable Vision for Loving Your Next-Door Neighbors<\/em>. We\u2019ve got it in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order. Again, the website, FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY; that\u2019s 1-800-358-6329; 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d Ask for your copy of the book, <em>Placed for a Purpose<\/em>, by Chris and Elizabeth McKinney. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDavid Robbins, who is the president of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, is with us. What we\u2019ve been talking about today\u2014I know this is something that is\u2014you are very passionate about this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> You know, it\u2019s really cool for me to have you hear from Chris and Elizabeth. When I joined staff with Cru, Elizabeth and I joined staff together; and we were in a group together in the seminary class that we were taking. It has been so fun, through the years, to keep up with her and Chris as they have grown this heartbeat for knowing that they were placed in the community they have been placed with to share life\/to be Jesus in that place\u2014as John 1 says\u2014\u201cto take up residence in that place\u201d and to reflect Jesus in that place. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt reminds me of Acts 17, because I think that\u2019s exactly what they have lived out and what their book is about. It\u2019s exactly what every follower of Jesus gets to participate in; Acts 17:26: \u201cAnd God made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined an allotted period of time and the boundaries of their dwelling places, that they should seek God and, perhaps, find their way toward Him.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe reality is that God has placed you exactly where you\u2019ve been put\u2014the exact boundaries of your dwelling place, the neighborhood you live in, the spheres of influence that you have\u2014God is the One who determined those. We get to show up, as ambassadors of Christ, representing Him to those people that God has put around us. You are called to those people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would encourage you to pray and put into application some of the things that Chris and Elizabeth have shared with us. Whatever God\u2019s prompted you with, take a step of faith, trust Him that it is from the Holy Spirit, and see how God is going to show up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; that\u2019s a great challenge, David. Thank you for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you and your family have a great weekend. I hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church on this Resurrection weekend as we focus on the resurrection of Christ at Easter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI hope you can join us back on Monday when we\u2019re going to talk about all of the ways Dave and Ann Wilson messed up as parents\u2014I mean, really what we\u2019re going to talk about\u2014they\u2019ve written a new book called <em>No Perfect Parent<\/em>. We\u2019re going to talk about how God\u2019s grace is a part of effective parenting, but we\u2019ll talk about where our focus needs to be as we raise the next generation. 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