{"id":306691,"date":"2021-01-22T07:00:05","date_gmt":"2021-01-22T12:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/the-miracle-and-hope-of-life\/"},"modified":"2021-01-22T07:00:05","modified_gmt":"2021-01-22T12:00:05","slug":"the-miracle-and-hope-of-life","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-miracle-and-hope-of-life\/","title":{"rendered":"The Miracle and Hope of Life"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What do you say to someone who believes abortion is their only option or struggles with the weight of guilt from having had one? 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We\u2019ll provide you with what you need. We\u2019ll be here for your emotional support. We\u2019ll help with financial support.\u201d That\u2019s what we\u2019re supposed to do. If we know people, one on one, we\u2019re supposed to help them. As the body of Christ in the community, we\u2019re supposed to help those who are in circumstances that are distressing to them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, January 22<sup>nd<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. What does it mean to be pro-life in all senses of that term? We\u2019ll talk more about that today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition. We are noting the fact that this Sunday is Sanctity of Human Life Sunday. This week, we\u2019re taking some time to think about what the Bible says about the issue of abortion. This has to be the most contentious issue of our generation. I can\u2019t think of another issue, in my lifetime, that has been as polarizing and as divisive as this issue has been.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Yes, you would think it wouldn\u2019t be. You would think everybody sees a baby in a mother\u2019s womb as a living human being, but they don\u2019t. So yes, it becomes explosive. It\u2019s one of those topics that\u2019s very hard to talk about over the dinner table with your own family sometimes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I don\u2019t know about you guys, but when I hear the number 60 million, it kind of takes my breath away; and I think that\u2019s why our attention goes to that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Technology, over the last 48 years since the Roe v. Wade decision was handed down, what we can see now in 3D ultrasounds\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and what we can look at\u2014and go, \u201cOh my word.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>\u201cThis is life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. We\u2019re going to hear Part Two of a message today. I actually preached on this at our church a year ago, and preached on what the Bible says about life\u2014we\u2019ve heard that already this week\u2014I also wanted to look at those objections that get raised against the pro-life position. The second part of this message was trying to take those issues on and saying, \u201cOkay; again, let\u2019s hear what people, who would disagree with us, have to say; and let\u2019s consider their arguments. Let\u2019s see if those arguments hold up.\u201d Let\u2019s listen together to Part Two of this message.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Recorded Message]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I googled this\/I decided to google and see: \u201cWhat are the arguments that the pro-choice folks would make about this? How would they counter the argument that this is a life that is precious and needs to be protected?\u201d I got to this website: \u201cHow to Argue Pro-Choice: 11 Arguments Against Abortion Access Debunked.\u201d They\u2019re going to debunk the argument. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me just point out\u2014you\u2019ve seen the \u201cMy body, my choice\u201d slogan before\u2014it\u2019s <em>not<\/em> your body!\u2014it\u2019s a <em>different<\/em> person\/<em>different<\/em> DNA! If it was your body, I\u2019m with you; you know? If you want to have your gallbladder removed, I\u2019ll support you in that; but this is not your gallbladder. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would also say that any tissue in your body that does not have your DNA is not <em>you<\/em>, and that baby does not have your DNA. In fact, if we were at a crime scene, you know, and the CSI investigators came up and said, \u201cWe found DNA\u201d; well, we would know that there was a person; you can attach the person to the DNA. If we said, \u201cWell, that DNA, that was just a part of my body,\u201d they\u2019d go, \u201cWhat are you talking about? No, DNA is how we identify a person,\u201d\u2014they know that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re not going to go into all 11\u2014some of you said, \u201cThere are 11 arguments; I hope he\u2019s not doing all 11,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m not; I\u2019m just going to do 1. Argument number 1: let\u2019s walk through this. They put up here, \u201cCommon argument: A fetus is a human being, and a human being has the right to life; so abortion is murder,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s what I\u2019m saying to you this morning; that\u2019s my argument.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe pro-choice argument\/they say: \u201cI\u2019m probably not going to convince you that a fetus isn\u2019t a life, as that\u2019s basically the most intractable part of this whole debate; so I\u2019ll be brief.\u201d Let me just point out here, the author of this article understands this is where it all rests\/this is where it all falls or stands. I wanted to make sure that I understood the word, \u201cintractable,\u201d so I looked it up in the dictionary. \u201cIntractable,\u201d according to <em>Cambridge English Dictionary<\/em>: \u201cDifficult or impossible to manage or control.\u201d \u201cThis part of the argument we can\u2019t manage and we can\u2019t control,\u201d; in other words, the argument that the fetus, as a human being, has a right to life is, according to this person, the hardest pro-choice argument that people have to deal with. So how do they deal with the argument?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s their first thing: \u201cA fetus can\u2019t survive on its own; it\u2019s fully dependent on its mother\u2019s body, unlike born human beings.\u201d They\u2019re saying you have the right to terminate, because the fetus can\u2019t survive on its own. Hang on a second; we had five babies. Did anybody find that your three-month-old was able to survive on its own? I mean, really! Your one-month-old\u2014if you say, \u201cHey, you\u2019re your own person! Take care of yourself,\u201d\u2014no! Your child can\u2019t survive without a caretaker\/can\u2019t survive without somebody loving, and protecting, and providing, and nourishing, and doing all of the things that you were doing when the baby was inside of you. Now, the baby\u2019s outside of you, you\u2019re doing it differently; but it\u2019s the same thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFollow that logic that\u2019s being advanced here: \u201cBecause a fetus can\u2019t survive on its own, it\u2019s okay to terminate.\u201d Only those who can survive on their own have a right to life? That\u2019s a scary thought; isn\u2019t it? If you live in a society, where only those who can survive on their own have a right to life, that\u2019s barbaric.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s the second point they make: \u201cEven if a fetus is alive, the right to life doesn\u2019t imply a right to use somebody else\u2019s body. People have the right to refuse to donate their organs, for example, even if doing so would save somebody else\u2019s life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOkay, let\u2019s take that apart. First of all, the fetus is alive\u2014it\u2019s a human being\u2014it\u2019s not dead. It\u2019s the right to life that is what we\u2019re questioning: \u201cDoes it have the right to stay alive?\u201d This right\u2014to use somebody else\u2019s body\u2014well now, wait just a second: \u201cWhat is it?\u2014is it your body or is it somebody else\u2019s body? Are we talking about two people, or are we talking about one person?\u201d This is where we\u2019re weaving out of logical consistencies for the sake of the argument; is it \u201cMy body, my choice\u201d? Looks like you\u2019re saying this is a separate person. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDoes a three-month-old baby, outside the womb, have the right to your body? It may not still be attached to your body, although some mothers would say, \u201cIt feels like my three-month-old is attached to my body\u201d; right? But any mommy you know knows that her body is being used by that child regularly\u2014or by the caretaker\u2014because the child needs the body to survive. Being brought into the world carries with it a basic human right to be cared for and protected. If we say, \u201cYou don\u2019t have the right to demand that my body be used,\u201d that\u2019s just ridiculous.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLook at the second part of the argument\u2014about the organ donation\u2014the logic here is you can refuse to donate your womb or your uterus to your child; that\u2019s basically what they\u2019re saying: \u201cBecause there\u2019s a baby there, that baby has no right to claim rights on my uterus unless I choose to give rights to my uterus to that baby.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI might ask the question, \u201cHow did that baby find its way into your uterus in the first place?\u201d You were probably involved in that, at some level, even in tragic circumstances here. There was either an implied invitation\u2014whether it was implied or not\u2014that baby\u2019s in your uterus. Can\u2019t we agree there\u2019s a difference between me deciding I want to donate my kidney to somebody to help him live and me saying, \u201cThere\u2019s a baby in my uterus, and I don\u2019t want you to live anymore; so I\u2019m evicting you\u201d? Isn\u2019t there a difference between whether I give you my kidney or I evict you from my womb because I don\u2019t want you crowding my uterus? That\u2019s what it sounds like the argument here is to me. It doesn\u2019t hold water for me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s the third argument: \u201cThe right to life also doesn\u2019t imply the right to live by threatening somebody else\u2019s body. Bearing children is always a threat to the life of the mother.\u201d I checked the data on this; I wanted to see: \u201cHow often is a woman\u2019s body in danger because of pregnancy or childbirth?\u201d The most recent statistics I found: in four million births in the United States, there were less than a thousand women who died during pregnancy or childbirth as a result of complications of pregnancy or childbirth; that\u2019s a 0.025 percent risk to a mother to carry a baby to term.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I don\u2019t want to minimize the thousand women who died during childbirth or during pregnancy\u2014that\u2019s tragic\u2014right? But may we ought to wait until the child is demonstrating harm rather than just saying, \u201cOh, I\u2019m pregnant. There might be harm; therefore, I\u2019m going to evict.\u201d If we can determine that a pregnancy has a mother\u2019s life at risk, then I would say there\u2019s a legitimate choice here to make to save the life of the mother against a baby that is threatening that mother\u2019s life; there\u2019s a legitimate choice to make.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I\u2019m saying\u00a0 life\u2014let me just differentiate here\u2014because this is how language matters. A lot of times, language\/we\u2019ll talk about the life or health of the mother; and then health of the mother is stretched out to mean her emotional health. If she says, \u201cIt\u2019s going to be stressful on me to be pregnant,\u201d her health is in jeopardy; therefore, abortion is\u2026 I would say, \u201cThat\u2019s not the case\u201d; but if her life is in danger, that\u2019s a different issue. This is a little like saying, \u201cThere have been two murders in my neighborhood. I live in a neighborhood, where I\u2019m at risk that I might get murdered; so if I see somebody walking by, I should be able to shoot him.\u201d Well, no; wait and see if they\u2019re a threat to you; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s the last argument: \u201cRight to life is, at the end of the day, a right not to have somebody else\u2019s will imposed upon your body. Don\u2019t women have this right as well?\u201d Yes, women have the right not to have somebody else\u2019s will imposed on their body; I would agree with that. But you get what this is saying; right? \u201cIf somebody is imposing on my body, I am justified in killing that person; so that my body is not imposed on,\u201d\u2014really?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy point in going through all of this is to make the point that we have to keep coming back to the central issue: we\u2019re talking about a human being; we\u2019re talking about a life. Whatever you decide is legitimate in the womb has to be legitimate outside the womb. Are there circumstances allowed in Scripture\/in our society, where we can take the life of another person?\u2014yes; self-defense, war\u2014there are legitimate, scripturally-defined situations, where it is okay\/it is authorized for us to defend ourselves and to take the life of another person if we have to. But all of that is last-resort, when there are no other options; because the Bible routinely exalts and glorifies human beings. Psalm 8 says we\u2019re made just a little lower than the angels. We have the image of God; we\u2019re unique among creation, and life is precious.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s not what\u2019s going on in an abortion. It\u2019s not because a woman\u2019s life is in danger from a pregnancy; it\u2019s because she doesn\u2019t want to be pregnant or doesn\u2019t want to have to take care of a baby, for whatever reason.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just need to say here\/quickly acknowledge that there are circumstances, where the news of a pregnancy for a woman does not bring tears of joy; it brings tears of great grief and sorrow. We need to understand that there\u2019s a real burden that comes to some people with the news that they are pregnant. If you know a woman, who is married or single, who is distressed because she has found out she is pregnant, God would call us to come alongside and be a help, and be a comfort, and be a source of care, and to help ease her burden, not to dismiss it. There can be circumstances that make it very troubling and very painful; and if that\u2019s the case, you need to be a part of caring for that person physically, spiritually, financially, emotionally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m grateful that there are places in central Arkansas\u2014some of you have worked at some these pro-life clinics\u2014where a mother who comes with a troubling pregnancy\/a distressed pregnancy, people are there to say: \u201cWe\u2019ll help you; we\u2019ll care for you. We\u2019ll provide you with what you need. We\u2019ll be here for your emotional support. We\u2019ll help with financial support.\u201d That\u2019s what we\u2019re supposed to do. If we know people, one on one, we\u2019re supposed to help them. As the body of Christ in the community, we\u2019re supposed to help those who are in circumstances that are distressing to them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith all of that said, though, I want to wrap up with three things this morning. The first thing is we looked at one passage this morning; but just be aware, there are many passages in Scripture that would support what we\u2019re talking about here: passages that talk about the fact that all human beings are made in God\u2019s image\u2014that\u2019s in \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGenesis 1\u2014we are image-bearers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe rest of creation does not bear the image of God; human beings do. Let me just say, the Bible would say that human life is more important than the life of animals, or the life of trees, or the life of insects. We just need to understand\u2014in our day\u2014there are some pantheistic religions\/some people, who would say trees are as valuable as people. Trees are valuable\u2014I\u2019m not trying to minimize that\u2014but the Bible says people are exalted. People bear the image of God; trees don\u2019t\u2014they bear His creative mark\u2014but they\u2019re not image-bearers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll human beings, because we bear the image of God, we are people of value, and worth, and dignity. Every human life should be extended value, worth, and dignity\u2014every human life: that\u2019s people in other countries, that\u2019s people in other cultures, that\u2019s people who are maybe enemies of one another\u2014every human being is valuable and precious before God, and that includes babies in their mother\u2019s womb.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Bible also teaches children are a <em>blessing<\/em> from the Lord. We need to have a biblical view of children: children are a gift from God\/a blessing. Can they be a burden and a responsibility?\u2014sure!\u2014but ultimately, they\u2019re a blessing. And the Bible says over and over again that the shedding of innocent blood is an abomination before the Lord.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI could go on, but my point is this: ask somebody, who\u2019s pro-choice, say, \u201cShow me the verses that support your pro-choice position.\u201d They\u2019ll get really abstract on you; they don\u2019t have any verses that talk in utero babies not being important. In fact, I read this on one pro-choice website; they said, \u201cWe pray for a world in which every child is wanted, loved, and cared for.\u201d Me too; right?\u2014and you pray for that\u2014that every child would be loved, wanted, and cared for. Then they said: \u201cBecause we believe in the sanctity of human life, we believe a child has the right to enter the world wanted and loved.\u201d Okay; but if a child is conceived and is not wanted or loved, are you saying that then the result should be we end that child\u2019s life? They don\u2019t have the right to enter the world unless somebody wants them or loves them? Is that the argument?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey go on to say: \u201cBecause we believe in the sanctity of human life, we are sensitive to the effects of an unwanted pregnancy upon individual women\/upon their loved ones and families.\u201d Amen! I\u2019d agree; we should be sensitive to the stress of that. Then they say: \u201cAnd we recognize that they, not we, must determine what is best for those directly concerned and involved.\u201d Well, okay; but if they determine that what\u2019s best for those directly involved is to kill a baby\u2014if a mother said, \u201cMy three-year-old is just stressing me out; I can\u2019t take it anymore,\u201d\u2014we would all recoil at the horror of that mother saying, \u201cThis is just such a stress on my family, financially and emotionally. We\u2019ve just decided to do away with the baby.\u201d We\u2019d go, \u201cThat\u2019s horrible!\u201d The same argument is what\u2019s being made for a baby in the womb; and it\u2019s the same baby, just a little younger. That\u2019s my first point. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s my second point this morning\u2014I want you to hear this\u2014there is good news for people who have had an abortion. I was working on this message this week; I read a blog post from a pastor in Alabama, who talked about a time when he preached a message on the sanctity of life\u2014this was about 20 years ago\u2014he said, when he finished, he felt good about his message\u2014felt like he had said what the Lord had put on his heart to say\u2014been faithful to what God had called him to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cImmediately after my message, an older gentleman approached me and handed me a note. He didn\u2019t say a word to me, just smiled and handed me the note; he walked away. I carefully opened the paper. What I found inside, bordered by mostly blank space, was a single sentence that read, \u2018Where was the hope in your message for women who\u2019ve had abortions?\u2019\u201d The pastor said, \u201cI was devastated. Actually,\u201d\u2014he said\u2014\u201cI was sick.\u201d He said, \u201cThe man was correct. In my zeal to champion the rights of the unborn, I had neglected to provide the one thing a Christian sermon should never lack: Christ-centered hope.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere was his advice to me, as a preacher; he said, \u201cEvery Sunday, whether you\u2019re preaching to 30 or 3,000, the people gathered in our assembly are just like us. They\u2019re riddled with guilt and shame over bad behavior, over un-kept promises, lapses in judgment. They\u2019re hurting; they\u2019re desperate, in need of hope. Our chief responsibility, as preachers, is to herald Jesus Christ, the good news in a world of bad news\/news of forgiveness through the faith and the person and work of God\u2019s Son.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe went on to say that my job is to proclaim this to you this morning\u2014here\u2019s what it is\u2014\u201cGood news that for liars, thieves, blasphemers, pornographers, idol-worshippers, adulterers, abortionists, and women who\u2019ve had abortions, there is complete and total forgiveness in Jesus Christ. The same grace on which we depend knows no limitations.\u201d Let me say that again: \u201cThe same grace on which all of us depend knows no limitations.\u201d Look back through that list; you\u2019re there. He goes on to say, \u201cThe woman who has undergone abortion, and has turned in faith to Jesus, need never be concerned that God is against her or is looking to punish her; she\u2019s a daughter of the Most High King, and she is beloved.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLook, I want to make sure you hear that this morning. I want to make sure that anyone who\u2019s here, if abortion is a part of your past, I want you to know, \u201cThere is, therefore, now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.\u201d In fact, we\u2019re going to say that together. I want to read it aloud; say it with me. See, I just repeated a phrase in there a few times. Say it aloud with me: \u201cThere is therefore now no condemnation\u2014no condemnation\u2014no condemnation\u2014for those who are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe next time you are tempted to despair, or to guilt, or to shame for your past, say that verse out loud. I say it often; believe the gospel\/believe that, in Jesus, you are forgiven and set free, no matter what your past.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, again, we\u2019ve been listening to the second part of a message about the sanctity of human life. This Sunday is Sanctity of Human Life Sunday. We thought it was important to pull back and spend a little time this week, just reflecting on that truth\/that reality, and reorient our thinking to be in line with what the Bible has to say.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I want to thank you for going back to the gospel: that we\u2019re all forgiven, that Jesus has set us all free, that He doesn\u2019t hold any of our sins against us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a friend that has had two abortions; and then, when she had her first child with her husband now, and she saw the ultrasound, it wrecked her, knowing that she had gotten rid of two babies. Man, she spiraled for quite a while; but now she lives with God\u2019s forgiveness, God\u2019s grace, God\u2019s mercy, God\u2019s hope that she\u2019ll see them again one day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMan, I\u2019m so glad that you offered that to us: that He is there, and He forgives us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>That was a perfect way to conclude. You can tend to think, \u201cI\u2019ve committed the unpardonable sin\u201d; and it\u2019s not. It\u2019s covered by the blood of Jesus, even that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>In the message, I showed our congregation a video\/a commercial that General Electric did 20 years ago that was an ultrasound machine commercial. It\u2019s a 60-second commercial that is an advertisement for the sanctity of human life. They were trying to advertise their ultrasound machine, which was an amazing machine; but what they were advertising was the preciousness of life. We have a link on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com to that commercial if anybody wants to go watch it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Just get ready to cry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; it\u2019s a powerful commercial.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe also have a link to the complete message that you heard a portion of today\/a message on the fact that we are fearfully and wonderfully made, as Psalm 139 says. You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com to download the audio or to watch the video of that message. Again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me quickly mention a great book by our friend, David Platt. He wrote a book, a few years ago, called <em>A Compassionate Call to Counter Culture in a World of Poverty, Same-Sex Marriage, Racism, Immigration, Abortion, Persecution, Orphans, Pornography<\/em>\u2014all of the hot-button issues. How do we deal with those issues, biblically and compassionately? That\u2019s what David\u2019s book is all about. That book is available in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to find out more about how you can get your copy of David Platt\u2019s book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe should say that, oftentimes, when we\u2019re dealing with issues related to marriage, or family, or gender, and sexuality, human life\u2014these issues are countercultural; they\u2019re not always popular. We have the president of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, David Robbins, here with us today. David, as a ministry, we are committed to talking about what the Bible teaches about all of these issues, even when it\u2019s not popular to do so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes, Bob; no matter where the cultural currents are going, we know that we stand on a foundation of Scriptures\/God\u2019s Holy Word, God-breathed. It is the source to instruct us, to exhort us, to convict us. That\u2019s what we\u2019re about! We are about standing on that timeless truth\/proclaiming that timeless truth: how it practically plays out in our own lives, how that timeless truth is the sustaining factor that allows us to keep pursuing the relationships that matter most in our lives. We are going to keep standing on that truth and keep proclaiming that truth.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want to thank you, as listeners, for giving and generously partnering with us to allow us to keep proclaiming the Word of God. Thank you for giving so we can be on this station, if you\u2019re listening on radio. Thank you for giving that enables us to release our new app, that we did a few months ago, and see that listenership and those digital platforms grow by 84 percent. <em>You<\/em> are having an impact in getting God\u2019s Word out to more and more people, and we\u2019re so thankful for you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, indeed we are. Thank you, David, for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope each one of you has a great weekend! Hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this weekend, and I hope you can join us back on Monday when we\u2019re going to spend some time with Dr. John Piper, talking about the subject of God\u2019s providence. How do we understand that? How do we teach our kids to trust in the providence of God?\u2014even in the midst of pandemics and all kinds of challenges we face in life. 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do you say to someone who believes abortion is their only option or struggles with the weight of guilt from having had one? Bob Lepine addresses the struggles people face on this issue and shares the hope of a Savior who loves them.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylife.com\/fl2021-01-22.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m grateful that there are places\u2014some of you have worked at some of these pro-life clinics\u2014where a mother, who comes with a troubling pregnancy\/a distressed pregnancy, people are there to say: \u201cWe\u2019ll help you; we\u2019ll care for you. We\u2019ll provide you with what you need. We\u2019ll be here for your emotional support. We\u2019ll help with financial support.\u201d That\u2019s what we\u2019re supposed to do. If we know people, one on one, we\u2019re supposed to help them. As the body of Christ in the community, we\u2019re supposed to help those who are in circumstances that are distressing to them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, January 22<sup>nd<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. What does it mean to be pro-life in all senses of that term? We\u2019ll talk more about that today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition. We are noting the fact that this Sunday is Sanctity of Human Life Sunday. This week, we\u2019re taking some time to think about what the Bible says about the issue of abortion. This has to be the most contentious issue of our generation. I can\u2019t think of another issue, in my lifetime, that has been as polarizing and as divisive as this issue has been.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Yes, you would think it wouldn\u2019t be. You would think everybody sees a baby in a mother\u2019s womb as a living human being, but they don\u2019t. So yes, it becomes explosive. It\u2019s one of those topics that\u2019s very hard to talk about over the dinner table with your own family sometimes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I don\u2019t know about you guys, but when I hear the number 60 million, it kind of takes my breath away; and I think that\u2019s why our attention goes to that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Technology, over the last 48 years since the Roe v. Wade decision was handed down, what we can see now in 3D ultrasounds\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and what we can look at\u2014and go, \u201cOh my word.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>\u201cThis is life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. We\u2019re going to hear Part Two of a message today. I actually preached on this at our church a year ago, and preached on what the Bible says about life\u2014we\u2019ve heard that already this week\u2014I also wanted to look at those objections that get raised against the pro-life position. The second part of this message was trying to take those issues on and saying, \u201cOkay; again, let\u2019s hear what people, who would disagree with us, have to say; and let\u2019s consider their arguments. Let\u2019s see if those arguments hold up.\u201d Let\u2019s listen together to Part Two of this message.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Recorded Message]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I googled this\/I decided to google and see: \u201cWhat are the arguments that the pro-choice folks would make about this? How would they counter the argument that this is a life that is precious and needs to be protected?\u201d I got to this website: \u201cHow to Argue Pro-Choice: 11 Arguments Against Abortion Access Debunked.\u201d They\u2019re going to debunk the argument. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me just point out\u2014you\u2019ve seen the \u201cMy body, my choice\u201d slogan before\u2014it\u2019s <em>not<\/em> your body!\u2014it\u2019s a <em>different<\/em> person\/<em>different<\/em> DNA! If it was your body, I\u2019m with you; you know? If you want to have your gallbladder removed, I\u2019ll support you in that; but this is not your gallbladder. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would also say that any tissue in your body that does not have your DNA is not <em>you<\/em>, and that baby does not have your DNA. In fact, if we were at a crime scene, you know, and the CSI investigators came up and said, \u201cWe found DNA\u201d; well, we would know that there was a person; you can attach the person to the DNA. If we said, \u201cWell, that DNA, that was just a part of my body,\u201d they\u2019d go, \u201cWhat are you talking about? No, DNA is how we identify a person,\u201d\u2014they know that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re not going to go into all 11\u2014some of you said, \u201cThere are 11 arguments; I hope he\u2019s not doing all 11,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m not; I\u2019m just going to do 1. Argument number 1: let\u2019s walk through this. They put up here, \u201cCommon argument: A fetus is a human being, and a human being has the right to life; so abortion is murder,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s what I\u2019m saying to you this morning; that\u2019s my argument.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe pro-choice argument\/they say: \u201cI\u2019m probably not going to convince you that a fetus isn\u2019t a life, as that\u2019s basically the most intractable part of this whole debate; so I\u2019ll be brief.\u201d Let me just point out here, the author of this article understands this is where it all rests\/this is where it all falls or stands. I wanted to make sure that I understood the word, \u201cintractable,\u201d so I looked it up in the dictionary. \u201cIntractable,\u201d according to <em>Cambridge English Dictionary<\/em>: \u201cDifficult or impossible to manage or control.\u201d \u201cThis part of the argument we can\u2019t manage and we can\u2019t control,\u201d; in other words, the argument that the fetus, as a human being, has a right to life is, according to this person, the hardest pro-choice argument that people have to deal with. So how do they deal with the argument?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s their first thing: \u201cA fetus can\u2019t survive on its own; it\u2019s fully dependent on its mother\u2019s body, unlike born human beings.\u201d They\u2019re saying you have the right to terminate, because the fetus can\u2019t survive on its own. Hang on a second; we had five babies. Did anybody find that your three-month-old was able to survive on its own? I mean, really! Your one-month-old\u2014if you say, \u201cHey, you\u2019re your own person! Take care of yourself,\u201d\u2014no! Your child can\u2019t survive without a caretaker\/can\u2019t survive without somebody loving, and protecting, and providing, and nourishing, and doing all of the things that you were doing when the baby was inside of you. Now, the baby\u2019s outside of you, you\u2019re doing it differently; but it\u2019s the same thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFollow that logic that\u2019s being advanced here: \u201cBecause a fetus can\u2019t survive on its own, it\u2019s okay to terminate.\u201d Only those who can survive on their own have a right to life? That\u2019s a scary thought; isn\u2019t it? If you live in a society, where only those who can survive on their own have a right to life, that\u2019s barbaric.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s the second point they make: \u201cEven if a fetus is alive, the right to life doesn\u2019t imply a right to use somebody else\u2019s body. People have the right to refuse to donate their organs, for example, even if doing so would save somebody else\u2019s life.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOkay, let\u2019s take that apart. First of all, the fetus is alive\u2014it\u2019s a human being\u2014it\u2019s not dead. It\u2019s the right to life that is what we\u2019re questioning: \u201cDoes it have the right to stay alive?\u201d This right\u2014to use somebody else\u2019s body\u2014well now, wait just a second: \u201cWhat is it?\u2014is it your body or is it somebody else\u2019s body? Are we talking about two people, or are we talking about one person?\u201d This is where we\u2019re weaving out of logical consistencies for the sake of the argument; is it \u201cMy body, my choice\u201d? Looks like you\u2019re saying this is a separate person. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDoes a three-month-old baby, outside the womb, have the right to your body? It may not still be attached to your body, although some mothers would say, \u201cIt feels like my three-month-old is attached to my body\u201d; right? But any mommy you know knows that her body is being used by that child regularly\u2014or by the caretaker\u2014because the child needs the body to survive. Being brought into the world carries with it a basic human right to be cared for and protected. If we say, \u201cYou don\u2019t have the right to demand that my body be used,\u201d that\u2019s just ridiculous.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLook at the second part of the argument\u2014about the organ donation\u2014the logic here is you can refuse to donate your womb or your uterus to your child; that\u2019s basically what they\u2019re saying: \u201cBecause there\u2019s a baby there, that baby has no right to claim rights on my uterus unless I choose to give rights to my uterus to that baby.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI might ask the question, \u201cHow did that baby find its way into your uterus in the first place?\u201d You were probably involved in that, at some level, even in tragic circumstances here. There was either an implied invitation\u2014whether it was implied or not\u2014that baby\u2019s in your uterus. Can\u2019t we agree there\u2019s a difference between me deciding I want to donate my kidney to somebody to help him live and me saying, \u201cThere\u2019s a baby in my uterus, and I don\u2019t want you to live anymore; so I\u2019m evicting you\u201d? Isn\u2019t there a difference between whether I give you my kidney or I evict you from my womb because I don\u2019t want you crowding my uterus? That\u2019s what it sounds like the argument here is to me. It doesn\u2019t hold water for me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s the third argument: \u201cThe right to life also doesn\u2019t imply the right to live by threatening somebody else\u2019s body. Bearing children is always a threat to the life of the mother.\u201d I checked the data on this; I wanted to see: \u201cHow often is a woman\u2019s body in danger because of pregnancy or childbirth?\u201d The most recent statistics I found: in four million births in the United States, there were less than a thousand women who died during pregnancy or childbirth as a result of complications of pregnancy or childbirth; that\u2019s a 0.025 percent risk to a mother to carry a baby to term.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I don\u2019t want to minimize the thousand women who died during childbirth or during pregnancy\u2014that\u2019s tragic\u2014right? But may we ought to wait until the child is demonstrating harm rather than just saying, \u201cOh, I\u2019m pregnant. There might be harm; therefore, I\u2019m going to evict.\u201d If we can determine that a pregnancy has a mother\u2019s life at risk, then I would say there\u2019s a legitimate choice here to make to save the life of the mother against a baby that is threatening that mother\u2019s life; there\u2019s a legitimate choice to make.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I\u2019m saying\u00a0 life\u2014let me just differentiate here\u2014because this is how language matters. A lot of times, language\/we\u2019ll talk about the life or health of the mother; and then health of the mother is stretched out to mean her emotional health. If she says, \u201cIt\u2019s going to be stressful on me to be pregnant,\u201d her health is in jeopardy; therefore, abortion is\u2026 I would say, \u201cThat\u2019s not the case\u201d; but if her life is in danger, that\u2019s a different issue. This is a little like saying, \u201cThere have been two murders in my neighborhood. I live in a neighborhood, where I\u2019m at risk that I might get murdered; so if I see somebody walking by, I should be able to shoot him.\u201d Well, no; wait and see if they\u2019re a threat to you; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s the last argument: \u201cRight to life is, at the end of the day, a right not to have somebody else\u2019s will imposed upon your body. Don\u2019t women have this right as well?\u201d Yes, women have the right not to have somebody else\u2019s will imposed on their body; I would agree with that. But you get what this is saying; right? \u201cIf somebody is imposing on my body, I am justified in killing that person; so that my body is not imposed on,\u201d\u2014really?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy point in going through all of this is to make the point that we have to keep coming back to the central issue: we\u2019re talking about a human being; we\u2019re talking about a life. Whatever you decide is legitimate in the womb has to be legitimate outside the womb. Are there circumstances allowed in Scripture\/in our society, where we can take the life of another person?\u2014yes; self-defense, war\u2014there are legitimate, scripturally-defined situations, where it is okay\/it is authorized for us to defend ourselves and to take the life of another person if we have to. But all of that is last-resort, when there are no other options; because the Bible routinely exalts and glorifies human beings. Psalm 8 says we\u2019re made just a little lower than the angels. We have the image of God; we\u2019re unique among creation, and life is precious.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s not what\u2019s going on in an abortion. It\u2019s not because a woman\u2019s life is in danger from a pregnancy; it\u2019s because she doesn\u2019t want to be pregnant or doesn\u2019t want to have to take care of a baby, for whatever reason.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just need to say here\/quickly acknowledge that there are circumstances, where the news of a pregnancy for a woman does not bring tears of joy; it brings tears of great grief and sorrow. We need to understand that there\u2019s a real burden that comes to some people with the news that they are pregnant. If you know a woman, who is married or single, who is distressed because she has found out she is pregnant, God would call us to come alongside and be a help, and be a comfort, and be a source of care, and to help ease her burden, not to dismiss it. There can be circumstances that make it very troubling and very painful; and if that\u2019s the case, you need to be a part of caring for that person physically, spiritually, financially, emotionally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m grateful that there are places in central Arkansas\u2014some of you have worked at some these pro-life clinics\u2014where a mother who comes with a troubling pregnancy\/a distressed pregnancy, people are there to say: \u201cWe\u2019ll help you; we\u2019ll care for you. We\u2019ll provide you with what you need. We\u2019ll be here for your emotional support. We\u2019ll help with financial support.\u201d That\u2019s what we\u2019re supposed to do. If we know people, one on one, we\u2019re supposed to help them. As the body of Christ in the community, we\u2019re supposed to help those who are in circumstances that are distressing to them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith all of that said, though, I want to wrap up with three things this morning. The first thing is we looked at one passage this morning; but just be aware, there are many passages in Scripture that would support what we\u2019re talking about here: passages that talk about the fact that all human beings are made in God\u2019s image\u2014that\u2019s in \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGenesis 1\u2014we are image-bearers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe rest of creation does not bear the image of God; human beings do. Let me just say, the Bible would say that human life is more important than the life of animals, or the life of trees, or the life of insects. We just need to understand\u2014in our day\u2014there are some pantheistic religions\/some people, who would say trees are as valuable as people. Trees are valuable\u2014I\u2019m not trying to minimize that\u2014but the Bible says people are exalted. People bear the image of God; trees don\u2019t\u2014they bear His creative mark\u2014but they\u2019re not image-bearers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll human beings, because we bear the image of God, we are people of value, and worth, and dignity. Every human life should be extended value, worth, and dignity\u2014every human life: that\u2019s people in other countries, that\u2019s people in other cultures, that\u2019s people who are maybe enemies of one another\u2014every human being is valuable and precious before God, and that includes babies in their mother\u2019s womb.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Bible also teaches children are a <em>blessing<\/em> from the Lord. We need to have a biblical view of children: children are a gift from God\/a blessing. Can they be a burden and a responsibility?\u2014sure!\u2014but ultimately, they\u2019re a blessing. And the Bible says over and over again that the shedding of innocent blood is an abomination before the Lord.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI could go on, but my point is this: ask somebody, who\u2019s pro-choice, say, \u201cShow me the verses that support your pro-choice position.\u201d They\u2019ll get really abstract on you; they don\u2019t have any verses that talk in utero babies not being important. In fact, I read this on one pro-choice website; they said, \u201cWe pray for a world in which every child is wanted, loved, and cared for.\u201d Me too; right?\u2014and you pray for that\u2014that every child would be loved, wanted, and cared for. Then they said: \u201cBecause we believe in the sanctity of human life, we believe a child has the right to enter the world wanted and loved.\u201d Okay; but if a child is conceived and is not wanted or loved, are you saying that then the result should be we end that child\u2019s life? They don\u2019t have the right to enter the world unless somebody wants them or loves them? Is that the argument?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey go on to say: \u201cBecause we believe in the sanctity of human life, we are sensitive to the effects of an unwanted pregnancy upon individual women\/upon their loved ones and families.\u201d Amen! I\u2019d agree; we should be sensitive to the stress of that. Then they say: \u201cAnd we recognize that they, not we, must determine what is best for those directly concerned and involved.\u201d Well, okay; but if they determine that what\u2019s best for those directly involved is to kill a baby\u2014if a mother said, \u201cMy three-year-old is just stressing me out; I can\u2019t take it anymore,\u201d\u2014we would all recoil at the horror of that mother saying, \u201cThis is just such a stress on my family, financially and emotionally. We\u2019ve just decided to do away with the baby.\u201d We\u2019d go, \u201cThat\u2019s horrible!\u201d The same argument is what\u2019s being made for a baby in the womb; and it\u2019s the same baby, just a little younger. That\u2019s my first point. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s my second point this morning\u2014I want you to hear this\u2014there is good news for people who have had an abortion. I was working on this message this week; I read a blog post from a pastor in Alabama, who talked about a time when he preached a message on the sanctity of life\u2014this was about 20 years ago\u2014he said, when he finished, he felt good about his message\u2014felt like he had said what the Lord had put on his heart to say\u2014been faithful to what God had called him to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cImmediately after my message, an older gentleman approached me and handed me a note. He didn\u2019t say a word to me, just smiled and handed me the note; he walked away. I carefully opened the paper. What I found inside, bordered by mostly blank space, was a single sentence that read, \u2018Where was the hope in your message for women who\u2019ve had abortions?\u2019\u201d The pastor said, \u201cI was devastated. Actually,\u201d\u2014he said\u2014\u201cI was sick.\u201d He said, \u201cThe man was correct. In my zeal to champion the rights of the unborn, I had neglected to provide the one thing a Christian sermon should never lack: Christ-centered hope.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere was his advice to me, as a preacher; he said, \u201cEvery Sunday, whether you\u2019re preaching to 30 or 3,000, the people gathered in our assembly are just like us. They\u2019re riddled with guilt and shame over bad behavior, over un-kept promises, lapses in judgment. They\u2019re hurting; they\u2019re desperate, in need of hope. Our chief responsibility, as preachers, is to herald Jesus Christ, the good news in a world of bad news\/news of forgiveness through the faith and the person and work of God\u2019s Son.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe went on to say that my job is to proclaim this to you this morning\u2014here\u2019s what it is\u2014\u201cGood news that for liars, thieves, blasphemers, pornographers, idol-worshippers, adulterers, abortionists, and women who\u2019ve had abortions, there is complete and total forgiveness in Jesus Christ. The same grace on which we depend knows no limitations.\u201d Let me say that again: \u201cThe same grace on which all of us depend knows no limitations.\u201d Look back through that list; you\u2019re there. He goes on to say, \u201cThe woman who has undergone abortion, and has turned in faith to Jesus, need never be concerned that God is against her or is looking to punish her; she\u2019s a daughter of the Most High King, and she is beloved.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLook, I want to make sure you hear that this morning. I want to make sure that anyone who\u2019s here, if abortion is a part of your past, I want you to know, \u201cThere is, therefore, now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.\u201d In fact, we\u2019re going to say that together. I want to read it aloud; say it with me. See, I just repeated a phrase in there a few times. Say it aloud with me: \u201cThere is therefore now no condemnation\u2014no condemnation\u2014no condemnation\u2014for those who are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe next time you are tempted to despair, or to guilt, or to shame for your past, say that verse out loud. I say it often; believe the gospel\/believe that, in Jesus, you are forgiven and set free, no matter what your past.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, again, we\u2019ve been listening to the second part of a message about the sanctity of human life. This Sunday is Sanctity of Human Life Sunday. We thought it was important to pull back and spend a little time this week, just reflecting on that truth\/that reality, and reorient our thinking to be in line with what the Bible has to say.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I want to thank you for going back to the gospel: that we\u2019re all forgiven, that Jesus has set us all free, that He doesn\u2019t hold any of our sins against us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a friend that has had two abortions; and then, when she had her first child with her husband now, and she saw the ultrasound, it wrecked her, knowing that she had gotten rid of two babies. Man, she spiraled for quite a while; but now she lives with God\u2019s forgiveness, God\u2019s grace, God\u2019s mercy, God\u2019s hope that she\u2019ll see them again one day.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMan, I\u2019m so glad that you offered that to us: that He is there, and He forgives us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>That was a perfect way to conclude. You can tend to think, \u201cI\u2019ve committed the unpardonable sin\u201d; and it\u2019s not. It\u2019s covered by the blood of Jesus, even that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>In the message, I showed our congregation a video\/a commercial that General Electric did 20 years ago that was an ultrasound machine commercial. It\u2019s a 60-second commercial that is an advertisement for the sanctity of human life. They were trying to advertise their ultrasound machine, which was an amazing machine; but what they were advertising was the preciousness of life. We have a link on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com to that commercial if anybody wants to go watch it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Just get ready to cry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; it\u2019s a powerful commercial.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe also have a link to the complete message that you heard a portion of today\/a message on the fact that we are fearfully and wonderfully made, as Psalm 139 says. You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com to download the audio or to watch the video of that message. Again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me quickly mention a great book by our friend, David Platt. He wrote a book, a few years ago, called <em>A Compassionate Call to Counter Culture in a World of Poverty, Same-Sex Marriage, Racism, Immigration, Abortion, Persecution, Orphans, Pornography<\/em>\u2014all of the hot-button issues. How do we deal with those issues, biblically and compassionately? That\u2019s what David\u2019s book is all about. That book is available in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to find out more about how you can get your copy of David Platt\u2019s book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe should say that, oftentimes, when we\u2019re dealing with issues related to marriage, or family, or gender, and sexuality, human life\u2014these issues are countercultural; they\u2019re not always popular. We have the president of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, David Robbins, here with us today. David, as a ministry, we are committed to talking about what the Bible teaches about all of these issues, even when it\u2019s not popular to do so.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David: <\/strong>Yes, Bob; no matter where the cultural currents are going, we know that we stand on a foundation of Scriptures\/God\u2019s Holy Word, God-breathed. It is the source to instruct us, to exhort us, to convict us. That\u2019s what we\u2019re about! We are about standing on that timeless truth\/proclaiming that timeless truth: how it practically plays out in our own lives, how that timeless truth is the sustaining factor that allows us to keep pursuing the relationships that matter most in our lives. We are going to keep standing on that truth and keep proclaiming that truth.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want to thank you, as listeners, for giving and generously partnering with us to allow us to keep proclaiming the Word of God. Thank you for giving so we can be on this station, if you\u2019re listening on radio. Thank you for giving that enables us to release our new app, that we did a few months ago, and see that listenership and those digital platforms grow by 84 percent. <em>You<\/em> are having an impact in getting God\u2019s Word out to more and more people, and we\u2019re so thankful for you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, indeed we are. Thank you, David, for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope each one of you has a great weekend! Hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this weekend, and I hope you can join us back on Monday when we\u2019re going to spend some time with Dr. John Piper, talking about the subject of God\u2019s providence. How do we understand that? How do we teach our kids to trust in the providence of God?\u2014even in the midst of pandemics and all kinds of challenges we face in life. 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