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But as she says that, she adds this disclaimer\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie: <\/strong>On this side of heaven, I don\u2019t think we\u2019re ever going to be fully content in who we are\u2014because we are broken; we have sin. There is evil in this world that we have to fight against; there are forces at play here that are bigger than what we see in the flesh. So we are not <em>content<\/em> here because it\u2019s not our home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, January 18<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. How can we better understand and embrace the person God has made us to be? How can we celebrate that appropriately? We\u2019re going to talk more about that today with Jamie Ivey. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I\u2019m just sitting here, thinking about junior high.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, please; why?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Was it like the worst time of your life?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; it was a <em>rough<\/em> time, I think. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> For you [Dave], was it a hard season? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> No; every season was a good season. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What are you talking about?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You <em>loved<\/em> every season, because you were the season guy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s funny; when you asked that, all I think about was sports. I\u2019m like, \u201cYes; it was pretty good!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; \u201cI was doing pretty well!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe reason I\u2019m thinking about it is because I think our guest today has figured out that a lot of people are still processing the junior high issues in their 20s, and 30s, and 40s, and beyond that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>I told my youngest son last year\u2014right or wrong\u2014I said, \u201cI think at 50 years old, \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t60 years old, 40 years old\u2014you are who you were in high school.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s interesting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Obviously, you\u2019re <em>not<\/em>; but there\u2019s something still connected to who you were as in junior high school.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> A lot of people just thought, \u201cI sure hope not!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I just thought, \u201cHe\u2019s had a mid-life crisis,\u201d\u2014is what I thought. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I have had one of those; is that what we\u2019re talking about today?\u2014I don\u2019t think so. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jamie Ivey is joining us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome, Jamie. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Guys, I am so glad to be here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re like, \u201cWhere are we going?!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Let me tell you about what I think of when I think of middle school. My parents and I\u2014we have resolved this; I have forgiven them\u2014when I was in sixth grade, we moved from a super small town in Texas to a large suburb with <em>one month<\/em> left of school. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann and Dave:<\/strong> Whoa!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> I had grown up in one town my whole life. One school in town; you know, small town.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jamie is a podcaster extraordinaire\u2014we should say that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Well, thank you! I\u2019ll take it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Your podcast is heard by millions of people; it\u2019s called <em>Happy Hour<\/em>; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> <em>The Happy Hour<\/em>; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> <em>Great<\/em> title by the way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I love it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jamie has written a new book called <em>You Be You<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDo you think I\u2019m right, that there are still people dealing with their middle school identity issues when they\u2019re in their 30s? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Yes! I think we all are, at different stages, like you said. We\u2019re going, \u201cOkay; what does my life look like now?\u201d Whether you\u2019re a parent now, or now you\u2019ve been in a job for 20 years, you\u2019re thinking, \u201cIs this it?\u201d or whatever. We\u2019re all doing it; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So did you write this because it\u2019s the journey <em>you\u2019re <\/em>on or the journey you\u2019re watching <em>thousands<\/em> of other women be on?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Both; but I\u2019ll tell you why I wrote it <em>mostly<\/em>\u2014is because\u2014so I released my very first book in 2018; that was fun\/exciting. But then I started to hear\u2014women were always going\u2014they weren\u2019t dissatisfied with their life, because they didn\u2019t like their life; I started to hear them being dissatisfied with their life, because they wanted <em>her<\/em> life. It\u2019s not that they were looking at their own life going, \u201cI don\u2019t like what I\u2019m doing.\u201d They would look at <em>her<\/em> and go, \u201cIf I was <em>her<\/em>, I\u2019d be happy,\u201d \u201c\u2026content,\u201d\u2014fill in the blank. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was hearing this, going, \u201cBut wait; you\u2019re you! God made <em>you<\/em> to be you. God gave you gifts, and He gave you talents, and He gave you voice, and He gave you passions,\u201d\u2014all the things. The book started from that\u2014because I wanted women to quit trying to be something they weren\u2019t supposed to be\u2014I wanted them to be the person God created them to be. Then, honestly, everything in here is because: \u201cYes, I\u2019ve walked through this.\u201d I still find myself waking up some days, going, \u201cMan, if I was just like <em>her<\/em>, I would be better.\u201d I have to remind myself, \u201cNo! I have my own thing that I\u2019m doing.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRight now, we live in a world\u2014I feel like I talk about this all the time in this book\u2014with Instagram, social media, we can automatically see what we <em>think<\/em> everyone\u2019s life is. I say, \u201cthink,\u201d because it\u2019s just whatever\u2019s there. That\u2019s hard for women. I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s hard for men\u2014you guys can help me\u2014but I know it\u2019s hard for women; because they\u2019re looking around, wondering what they\u2019re missing out on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You start the book, talking about going through a mid-life crisis.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Yes; trying to figure out: \u201cWhat are we doing?\u201d A lot of it\u2019s like: \u201cWhat is our calling? What are we supposed to be doing with our life?\u201d I think people are asking that in high school, in their 20s, in their 30s, in their 40s. It\u2019s a <em>difficult<\/em> question to answer, because there\u2019s so many layers to it. People will say, \u201cYou\u2019re\/we\u2019re called to adoption\u201d; we have three kids through adoption. I\u2019m like, \u201cYes; God\u2019s called us to that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I think we have this <em>greater <\/em>calling in life. Anyone who\u2019s listening\u2014all of us here\u2014we love Jesus; we follow Him\u2014that\u2019s our goal in life. I would say that our <em>main<\/em> calling in life is to love God and to make Him known. Then, everything kind of falls into place, whether you change jobs, or you get married, or you have kids, or whatever it looks like. Everything kind of falls into place after that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want that to be an encouragement to women. I want it to be like: \u201cYou get to be you. At the end of the day, you\u2019re still doing what God asked you to do. You\u2019re going to make Him known and bring Him glory; that\u2019s going to look different your whole life.\u201d I\u2019ve had different jobs my whole life that have been so different. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yet, you turned 40. You said in the book\/you\u2019re like, \u201cI feel like I wasted a lot of years.\u201d In some ways, the questions you start asking at 40, some ask in high school: \u201cWho am I? Why am I here? What am I supposed to be doing?\u201d How did that hit you at, like you said, age 40?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> A little backstory: I grew up in church and knew a lot about God\/knew a lot about Jesus; would\u2019ve even said I was a Christian. But then turned 16 and started living for myself and did what I thought was a \u201cregular\u201d teenage life; I was kind of running from God. Got married to a pastor; and then my 20\u2019s, we were having kids. My husband, Aaron, was traveling; so I felt stuck a little bit. I wasn\u2019t really sure of what I was doing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThirties, I\u2019m trying to get my feet under me. Then, I got to 35, 36, 37, and started going, \u201cI have so much ahead of me, so what is God asking me to do?\u201d That\u2019s when my professional career started changing and taking off. It was the same question people were asking in their 20s. We\u2019re on this journey, all the time, of figuring out: \u201cWhat is God asking me to do today, and then tomorrow, and then the next day?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As I\u2019m hearing you describe this, I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWas being a wife and a mom not fulfilling?\u2014not what you were supposed to be doing? Was there still angst in that?\u201d Aren\u2019t some people\u2014that\u2019s who they are and who they\u2019re made to be?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Yes; so much angst in that, honestly. I mentioned that my husband travelled. He travelled a lot; I was at home. I was a teacher and a coach before we had kids. I kind of had this idea, like: \u201cI\u2019ll be home with the kids, and then I\u2019ll go back to working.\u201d I had this feeling of: \u201cI think there has to be more for me.\u201d I always want to say that, if you\u2019re able to stay home with your kids, it is a privilege; I know that, and I\u2019m <em>thankful<\/em> for it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut something started stirring in me, where I was like: \u201cI think God is moving in me and asking me to do something else,\u201d which is what led me to audition for a radio show. That was the first time that I ever did something out of the box. I thought, \u201cI think I\u2019m going to something other than teaching and coaching, and I think I\u2019m going to do something different than I ever thought I would do.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is a fun story, because I\u2014I\u2019ll tell you what happened\u2014I\u2019m driving in Austin, Texas. I\u2019ve got four kids; they\u2019re young at the time. I hear on the radio\u2014I listen to country radio\u2014and I hear them advertise that they have an open casting call for anyone to send in an audition tape to join the morning show. I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, that sounds fun.\u201d My husband, Aaron, is an artist; so we had a studio in our backyard\/a house in the back. I said, \u201cBabe, please help me.\u201d I created a demo. It was voting; it was by votes, so I rallied all my friends. I made it to the top ten in votes; and then from there, the executives pick. I made it to the top <em>five<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember Aaron and I went on a date. I hadn\u2019t worked outside the home since we had kids\u2014seven\/eight years\u2014we went on a date. He\u2019s like, \u201cI think we should talk about this.\u201d [Laughter] I was like, \u201cWhat?!\u201d\u2014still thinking\u2014\u201cThere\u2019s absolutely no way: \u201cWhat are the chances?\u201d I\u2019m in the top five now. He goes, \u201cWe should talk about this; because if you get a job, we\u2019ll have to figure this out.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He was worried a little bit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> I think he was worried; I think I should\u2019ve been worried. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cWho\u2019s making breakfast?\u201d is what he\u2019s thinking. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cWho\u2019s getting the kids to school?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> He\u2019s like, \u201cWho\u2019s dealing with these children?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI went in on a Thursday, and I got to go on air\u2014everybody did\u2014and I left there, that morning, thinking, \u201cIf nothing else, this was <em>so much fun<\/em>.\u201d You guys, I ended up winning. [Laughter] So here I am now; I had never spoken into a microphone before then. The guys that I worked with were <em>so kind<\/em> to me and so nice. It ended up being my favorite job I had ever had up until then; I was on cloud nine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut here\u2019s what you need to know. I won this job, so I go from stay-at-home mom to now on air, live, at 6:00 am; so I have to be there at 5 in the morning.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s not easy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> It\u2019s not easy, and my husband still travels a lot. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave and Bob: <\/strong>Oh!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie: <\/strong>It\u2019s a hard season. Also, this was in 2011. Three of our kids have joined our family through adoption. One of them had been home maybe 14 months; he was 4 1\/2. If anyone has ever been around adoption, it\u2019s <em>hard<\/em> at the beginning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI start working; and I am having the best time of my life, while everyone at my house is <em>dying<\/em>\u2014my kids were struggling; Aaron and I were struggling. I\u2019m tired; but I thought, \u201cGod, I have found what I am supposed to do for the rest of my life.\u201d About three months in, I came to Aaron; I was like, \u201cHave you noticed it\u2019s difficult around here?\u201d He\u2019s like, \u201cYou think?!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLooking back now, I am <em>so grateful<\/em> that he let <em>me<\/em> feel that tension; and he didn\u2019t come to me and say, \u201cYou have to quit.\u201d I would\u2019ve listened to him, but I think that would\u2019ve been hard for me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Even the fact that he didn\u2019t put his foot down and say, \u201cWe can\u2019t do this! I\u2019m on the road all the time.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> I know. I look back; and I\u2019m like, \u201cHe\u2019s such a cheerleader for me, and me for him. That was a season where it cost him a lot.\u201d Four months\u2014I quit. It was the hardest, best decision I\u2019ve ever made; I didn\u2019t want to. I was a little angry with God; I didn\u2019t understand: \u201cWhy would I try out, and why would I win? You knew I was going to have to give this up. You still let me do this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI felt a little embarrassed; I felt a little humiliated. I felt like, \u201cI can\u2019t do it\u201d; I felt like a failure. The biggest thing I felt was, when I was on the radio, it was the first time in my life\u2014and I don\u2019t know how to explain this; maybe you guys will understand, because you do this\u2014I felt like I had a voice. I felt, for the first time in my life, that I had found my groove: \u201cI speak, and I get to make a difference in thousands of people\u2019s lives.\u201d I <em>loved<\/em> that, and I was good at it\u2014so they said. I thought, \u201cI love this\u201d; and I thought I found my voice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I quit, I went through a lot of months of feeling like, \u201cI don\u2019t have a voice anymore; I don\u2019t make a difference. I don\u2019t have anything to say; no one\u2019s listening to me.\u201d I learned maybe one of my biggest lessons in life; I talk about it in this book. The voice that I thought I \u201cfound\u201d on that radio show\u2014I always had it. You said earlier, \u201cAre you the same person you were in high school?\u2014just looks different?\u201d I don\u2019t think God <em>gave<\/em> me a voice in March when I got that job. I don\u2019t think He took my voice away when I quit. I just think I used it differently. I had been using that voice when I was teaching fifth grade Sunday school or when I was coaching a volleyball team; I\u2019ve been using that voice with my four kids in my home for the past seven years. That was such a good lesson for me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s something I see with women\u2014is they think: \u201cIf I can get bigger and better, then I\u2019ll be important,\u201d \u201cIf I can get more followers, then I\u2019ll have something to say.\u201d I want to say, \u201cYou already have something to say; say it to the people in front of you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWas it hard to quit?\u2014yes. Did God teach me a lot?\u2014I\u2019m so grateful for that lesson; because it forced me to realize, \u201cOkay; you can use that voice in your home; you can use it everywhere you go.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I have such a similar story. I was a stay-at-home mom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> She did not win a radio show\/\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Did you win a radio show? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014DJ contest.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Nothing close to that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, hang on. Let\u2019s talk about what you\u2019re doing <em>today<\/em>; you\u2019re the co-host for <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>But it is true\u2014Dave and I were doing ministry together, before we had kids, for six years\u2014and I was <em>loving<\/em> it; I was <em>thriving<\/em> in it. I felt God calling us to have kids, and He graciously gave us three sons. But then, that was <em>hard<\/em>; I almost felt like I felt jealous of what Dave was doing\u2014how he was bringing people to Christ\/how he was impacting the world\u2014I felt like, \u201cI\u2019m doing nothing.\u201d What I would say in my head was, \u201cI have no life anymore.\u201d I hear <em>so many<\/em> women saying the same thing: \u201cI have no life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, I decided to start our women\u2019s ministry at our church. Our kids were 12, 10, and 7; and man, it filled me up. It started growing and thriving.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> She was good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I thought, \u201cThis is it! I\u2019m leading; I\u2019m impacting. I am doing this thing that I had this vision for.\u201d I found that I couldn\u2019t release all of that in my head when I was home, so I was distracted; I was constantly on the phone. Our youngest, who was seven, was really troubled by the whole thing\u2014like: \u201cWhy aren\u2019t you home anymore?\u201d \u201cWhy aren\u2019t you playing with me anymore?\u201d \u201cWhy aren\u2019t you playing football with me anymore?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, the guilt is creeping in; but I felt like, \u201cBut God put this\u2026\u201d\u2014and He\u2019s growing this, and the ministry\u2019s thriving. An older mentor came into town to speak at an event we had. I said, \u201cI feel like I need to be home. I feel like our family is struggling with me out here; yet, I have this call that I can\u2019t get rid of. I don\u2019t know what to do. I feel like the ministry will fall apart if I quit.\u201d She said, \u201cIf God can\u2019t replace <em>you<\/em>, you must <em>really<\/em> be something.\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOuch! That was so convicting, so I quit. I had a new vision for my family and the importance of pouring into our kids\u2014that I <em>did<\/em> have a life\u2014this was an <em>incredible<\/em> life. It sparked that feeling of: \u201cOh, I <em>can<\/em> be used by God in other ways; but for now, I need to <em>focus<\/em> on this ministry.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie: <\/strong>Look where you are now!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s what I want to ask both you women\u2014look where you are now\u2014you have a pretty substantial influence <em>outside<\/em> your home. \u201cWhat if you weren\u2019t doing this? What if it <em>never<\/em> was different than when you were moms in your homes?\u201d There are a lot of moms listening\/they\u2019re like, \u201cI\u2019m never going to be on the radio; I\u2019m not going to have a podcast; I\u2019m not going to write a book. I\u2019m going to raise sons and daughters, and that\u2019s it.\u201d Is that okay? Is that enough?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s\u2014we\u2019re not thinking about it the right way\u2014because I think everyone has different gifts, and talents, and passions, and voices, and influence. And for some reason, that we don\u2019t understand, this is where God has us. It\u2019s not better; it\u2019s just <em>different<\/em>. I think that mom, who\u2019s at home\u2014and she\u2019s like, \u201cMan, that would be fun to be on the radio. I\u2019m just making another batch of macaroni and cheese for the \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t17<sup>th<\/sup> time.\u201d That is where God has you, in that <em>moment<\/em>; I have been in that moment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And He\u2019s <em>shaping<\/em> you in the moment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Yes; for me, when I look back at it\u2014like a professional standpoint in my life\u2014I mean, yes, I quit. Then, six years later\u2014or I don\u2019t know how many years later\u2014I started my own show, and that changed my <em>entire<\/em> career and my life. Now my kids are bigger; and they understand that Mom leaves because she goes to tell people about Jesus. When I travel, that\u2019s what it is: \u201cI\u2019m going to go tell people about Jesus; I\u2019m not just leaving you guys here\u2014that\u2019s what I\u2019m doing.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s what I want women to know. I don\u2019t want them to look at me or <em>you<\/em> and think, \u201cWell, God\u2019s really using <em>them<\/em>\u201d; because God was really using <em>me<\/em> in my home, and He still is. God was using me when, like I said, I was a Sunday school teacher for <em>years<\/em>. That influence <em>mattered<\/em>; The influence that you have <em>matters<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The young woman, who\u2019s listening and going, \u201cNow, wait; why did you guys have to give up what <em>you<\/em> loved and what <em>you<\/em> were good at to make things work at home? Why didn\u2019t your husbands give up what <em>they<\/em> love and what <em>they\u2019re<\/em> good at, and let you be who God made you to be out in the marketplace?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Yes, that\u2019s a good question; yes, yes. I have a really good friend who, at the same time, was starting a company. She\u2019s asked me that; she\u2019s like, \u201cDid you and Aaron ever talk about why you had to quit and he didn\u2019t?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe <em>didn\u2019t <\/em>talk about that, for our family, particularly. I had been a stay-at-home mom when we started our family. We decided: \u201cYou know what? We have the opportunity,\u201d\u2014we had the income\u2014\u201cWe\u2019re going to decide for you to stay home with the kids.\u201d It was my choice; it was what we wanted. It just made sense in our family for me to do what I had done previously. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLike I said, Aaron was so kind; because he knew how much that meant to me. Neither one of us are God, so we couldn\u2019t have seen what God had in store for me. Looking back, I\u2019m like, \u201cGod, I\u2019m going to trust You next time. I\u2019m not going to be so mad at You when You make me do things I don\u2019t want to do.\u201d Because you never know what\u2019s on the other side. That\u2019s how it was for me; that\u2019s how our family had started. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think I looked at it, like, \u201cThis great ministry is out here, and I\u2019m doing this <em>little<\/em> ministry in my home.\u201d I think I realized, \u201cNo; the <em>great<\/em> ministry is in my home. I\u2019m raising <em>warriors<\/em>. I\u2019m raising people that could impact the next generation for Christ.\u201d I had this whole new vision of: \u201cThis is the greatest calling I could ever have. I <em>get<\/em> to stay home; not everybody can do that.\u201d It was this honor and privilege. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of the days felt like a <em>million<\/em> years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie: <\/strong>Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>You\u2019re just in it sometimes; and you feel like, \u201cI\u2019m not doing <em>anything<\/em> but changing diapers and making macaroni and cheese.\u201d Now that I\u2019m on the other side, I think, \u201cMan; those were the most <em>precious<\/em> moments that I could have.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I tell you what\u2014it\u2019s hard for the husband; because I would come home, and she would be voicing that struggle: \u201cI\u2019m not doing anything. My life is just hidden.\u201d Most husbands were probably like me; you\u2019re like, \u201cOh, no, honey. You\u2019re making a difference in what you do.\u201d It didn\u2019t matter what I said; it didn\u2019t seem like it could convince you that your ministry mattered. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m thinking, right now, speak to that mom. You just sort of did; and it\u2019s in your book, <em>You Be You<\/em>. But what would you say to the mom that\u2019s right now chasing a kid around the house?\u2014and they\u2019re feeling like, \u201cMy life doesn\u2019t really matter,\u201d\u2014what would you say to her?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie: <\/strong>The one thing I want to say for sure is that the quality of your influence matters over the quantity. I mean that by\u2014the people that you\u2019re influencing; it could be three kids\u2014but that <em>matters<\/em> so much to what you\u2019re doing\/is that quantity that you\u2019re pouring into them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI also want to say this\u2014I don\u2019t get on a soapbox or anything\u2014I also want to really encourage her to watch what she\u2019s inputting into her brain. It\u2019s really hard to fight that and believe that when you\u2019re constantly scrolling, looking at what you think is a better life. It\u2019s hard to be like: \u201cNo, God; I trust You with this life\u201d; and then, you\u2019re scrolling Instagram and Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, and you see this woman; she\u2019s on another trip with her work. You\u2019re like, \u201cMan, I wish I could wear a power suit and go to work in San Francisco for the weekend.\u201d You start to think, \u201cMan, my life doesn\u2019t matter, and <em>hers<\/em> does.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe can say all day: \u201cYou need to fight to believe this; you need to stay in God\u2019s Word. You need to surround yourself with good community.\u201d But practically, you might need to get off your phone! You might need to stop the scrolling to think, \u201c<em>Her<\/em> life looks better.\u201d I still have to deal with that all the time, of believing that what I\u2019m doing matters. Sometimes that becomes difficult when you\u2019re looking at other people\u2019s Instagram perfect reels. Listen\u2014I love Instagram, guys; it\u2019s my favorite social media\u2014but I take breaks all the time from it\u2014I mean, all the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Even last week, I can find myself\u2014we\u2019re busy\u2014and I can find myself, at the end of the day, wanting to sit down and find something on Netflix: \u201cOh, I want to find something that\u2019s going to be great.\u201d I\u2019ve been talking to God a lot and praying\/I was saying, \u201cGod, I want to walk with You; I want to know You; I want to be closer to You than I ever have been in my life.\u201d I felt this tug of the Holy Spirit saying, \u201cThen spend more time with Me. Spend more time with Me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019m not on Netflix\u201d; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; so I thought, \u201cAlright; I\u2019m going to read. I\u2019m not going to turn on TV at night. I\u2019m going to go up and read.\u201d I don\u2019t know why sometimes that can feel like a <em>chore<\/em>. I started doing that, and I was <em>amazed<\/em>. My heart felt like it was on <em>fire<\/em> for Jesus. What happens, too, is the social media\u2014you start to see it in a new way\u2014like, \u201cOh, this isn\u2019t benefitting me.\u201d I think, especially with young kids, all we want is a break: \u201cI just want a break. I just want to veg out.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut even talking to God throughout the day: talking to Him about what you\u2019re doing, listening to His voice, being in the Word, and having a community of women telling you: \u201cThis is what matters; what you\u2019re doing matters. You do have a voice; you are influencing.\u201d That really makes a difference.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019ll add this, because you two just talk to the women. I\u2019ll talk to the guys\u2014the husbands\/the dads\u2014I thought, back in those days, my words didn\u2019t really impact her; yet they did. I would just say, \u201cHusbands, today I\u2019m looking you in the eye\/I\u2019m staring you in the eye. You tell your woman she matters; you tell her what she\u2019s doing is valuable.\u201d Write her!\u2014write something down.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Thank her; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Text her. Pick up Jamie\u2019s book, <em>You Be You<\/em>. Encourage her; say, \u201cBe you! You are literally changing the world. Don\u2019t you believe the lie that you aren\u2019t.\u201d She needs to hear that from her man. I\u2019m telling you\u2014from man to man\u2014do it today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let me just say\u2014you could go to your wife tonight\u2014and say, \u201cI ordered a book for you today. I heard it on the radio today, and I went to FamilyLifeToday.com. I ordered Jamie Ivey\u2019s book, <em>You Be You<\/em>; and I want you to read this. Maybe we can read it together.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Or\/and you can say, \u201cI\u2019m going to take the kids for a couple hours, and you can go read the book!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>All:<\/strong> Ohhh! There you go! That\u2019s perfect!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Go to FamilyLifeToday.com and get a copy of Jamie\u2019s book. In fact, we\u2019re making Jamie\u2019s book available this week to any listener who can help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> with a donation of any amount. The book is called <em>You Be You: Why Satisfaction and Success Are Closer Than You Think.<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com to make an online donation; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to donate over the phone. Request your copy of the book, <em>You Be You<\/em>, by Jamie Ivey. If you\u2019re not yet listening to Jamie\u2019s podcast, which is called <em>The Happy Hour<\/em>, there\u2019s a link on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com. You can get subscribed and start listening to Jamie every week. Again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me say, \u201cThank you for your support of this ministry.\u201d It means so much to us every time you make a donation, which you\u2019re actually investing in is the marriages and families of people in your community\/people all around the world, who are depending on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for practical biblical help and hope for their marriage and their family. You make that possible through your donations. We\u2019re always glad to hear from you. We hope you enjoy Jamie\u2019s book, <em>You Be You<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you can join us, again, tomorrow when we\u2019re going to talk about how the culture of comparison that we live in affects how we see ourselves\/our ability to embrace being the people God has made us to be. Jamie Ivey\u2019s going to join us, again, tomorrow. I hope you can be here as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> of Little Rock, Arkansas; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\ta Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. Help for today. 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Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. How can we better understand and embrace the person God has made us to be? How can we celebrate that appropriately? We\u2019re going to talk more about that today with Jamie Ivey. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I\u2019m just sitting here, thinking about junior high.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, please; why?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Was it like the worst time of your life?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; it was a <em>rough<\/em> time, I think. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> For you [Dave], was it a hard season? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> No; every season was a good season. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What are you talking about?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You <em>loved<\/em> every season, because you were the season guy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s funny; when you asked that, all I think about was sports. I\u2019m like, \u201cYes; it was pretty good!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; \u201cI was doing pretty well!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe reason I\u2019m thinking about it is because I think our guest today has figured out that a lot of people are still processing the junior high issues in their 20s, and 30s, and 40s, and beyond that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>I told my youngest son last year\u2014right or wrong\u2014I said, \u201cI think at 50 years old, \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t60 years old, 40 years old\u2014you are who you were in high school.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s interesting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Obviously, you\u2019re <em>not<\/em>; but there\u2019s something still connected to who you were as in junior high school.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> A lot of people just thought, \u201cI sure hope not!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I just thought, \u201cHe\u2019s had a mid-life crisis,\u201d\u2014is what I thought. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I have had one of those; is that what we\u2019re talking about today?\u2014I don\u2019t think so. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jamie Ivey is joining us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome, Jamie. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Guys, I am so glad to be here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re like, \u201cWhere are we going?!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Let me tell you about what I think of when I think of middle school. My parents and I\u2014we have resolved this; I have forgiven them\u2014when I was in sixth grade, we moved from a super small town in Texas to a large suburb with <em>one month<\/em> left of school. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann and Dave:<\/strong> Whoa!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> I had grown up in one town my whole life. One school in town; you know, small town.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jamie is a podcaster extraordinaire\u2014we should say that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Well, thank you! I\u2019ll take it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Your podcast is heard by millions of people; it\u2019s called <em>Happy Hour<\/em>; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> <em>The Happy Hour<\/em>; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> <em>Great<\/em> title by the way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I love it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jamie has written a new book called <em>You Be You<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDo you think I\u2019m right, that there are still people dealing with their middle school identity issues when they\u2019re in their 30s? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Yes! I think we all are, at different stages, like you said. We\u2019re going, \u201cOkay; what does my life look like now?\u201d Whether you\u2019re a parent now, or now you\u2019ve been in a job for 20 years, you\u2019re thinking, \u201cIs this it?\u201d or whatever. We\u2019re all doing it; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So did you write this because it\u2019s the journey <em>you\u2019re <\/em>on or the journey you\u2019re watching <em>thousands<\/em> of other women be on?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Both; but I\u2019ll tell you why I wrote it <em>mostly<\/em>\u2014is because\u2014so I released my very first book in 2018; that was fun\/exciting. But then I started to hear\u2014women were always going\u2014they weren\u2019t dissatisfied with their life, because they didn\u2019t like their life; I started to hear them being dissatisfied with their life, because they wanted <em>her<\/em> life. It\u2019s not that they were looking at their own life going, \u201cI don\u2019t like what I\u2019m doing.\u201d They would look at <em>her<\/em> and go, \u201cIf I was <em>her<\/em>, I\u2019d be happy,\u201d \u201c\u2026content,\u201d\u2014fill in the blank. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was hearing this, going, \u201cBut wait; you\u2019re you! God made <em>you<\/em> to be you. God gave you gifts, and He gave you talents, and He gave you voice, and He gave you passions,\u201d\u2014all the things. The book started from that\u2014because I wanted women to quit trying to be something they weren\u2019t supposed to be\u2014I wanted them to be the person God created them to be. Then, honestly, everything in here is because: \u201cYes, I\u2019ve walked through this.\u201d I still find myself waking up some days, going, \u201cMan, if I was just like <em>her<\/em>, I would be better.\u201d I have to remind myself, \u201cNo! I have my own thing that I\u2019m doing.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRight now, we live in a world\u2014I feel like I talk about this all the time in this book\u2014with Instagram, social media, we can automatically see what we <em>think<\/em> everyone\u2019s life is. I say, \u201cthink,\u201d because it\u2019s just whatever\u2019s there. That\u2019s hard for women. I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s hard for men\u2014you guys can help me\u2014but I know it\u2019s hard for women; because they\u2019re looking around, wondering what they\u2019re missing out on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You start the book, talking about going through a mid-life crisis.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Yes; trying to figure out: \u201cWhat are we doing?\u201d A lot of it\u2019s like: \u201cWhat is our calling? What are we supposed to be doing with our life?\u201d I think people are asking that in high school, in their 20s, in their 30s, in their 40s. It\u2019s a <em>difficult<\/em> question to answer, because there\u2019s so many layers to it. People will say, \u201cYou\u2019re\/we\u2019re called to adoption\u201d; we have three kids through adoption. I\u2019m like, \u201cYes; God\u2019s called us to that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I think we have this <em>greater <\/em>calling in life. Anyone who\u2019s listening\u2014all of us here\u2014we love Jesus; we follow Him\u2014that\u2019s our goal in life. I would say that our <em>main<\/em> calling in life is to love God and to make Him known. Then, everything kind of falls into place, whether you change jobs, or you get married, or you have kids, or whatever it looks like. Everything kind of falls into place after that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want that to be an encouragement to women. I want it to be like: \u201cYou get to be you. At the end of the day, you\u2019re still doing what God asked you to do. You\u2019re going to make Him known and bring Him glory; that\u2019s going to look different your whole life.\u201d I\u2019ve had different jobs my whole life that have been so different. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yet, you turned 40. You said in the book\/you\u2019re like, \u201cI feel like I wasted a lot of years.\u201d In some ways, the questions you start asking at 40, some ask in high school: \u201cWho am I? Why am I here? What am I supposed to be doing?\u201d How did that hit you at, like you said, age 40?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> A little backstory: I grew up in church and knew a lot about God\/knew a lot about Jesus; would\u2019ve even said I was a Christian. But then turned 16 and started living for myself and did what I thought was a \u201cregular\u201d teenage life; I was kind of running from God. Got married to a pastor; and then my 20\u2019s, we were having kids. My husband, Aaron, was traveling; so I felt stuck a little bit. I wasn\u2019t really sure of what I was doing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThirties, I\u2019m trying to get my feet under me. Then, I got to 35, 36, 37, and started going, \u201cI have so much ahead of me, so what is God asking me to do?\u201d That\u2019s when my professional career started changing and taking off. It was the same question people were asking in their 20s. We\u2019re on this journey, all the time, of figuring out: \u201cWhat is God asking me to do today, and then tomorrow, and then the next day?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As I\u2019m hearing you describe this, I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWas being a wife and a mom not fulfilling?\u2014not what you were supposed to be doing? Was there still angst in that?\u201d Aren\u2019t some people\u2014that\u2019s who they are and who they\u2019re made to be?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Yes; so much angst in that, honestly. I mentioned that my husband travelled. He travelled a lot; I was at home. I was a teacher and a coach before we had kids. I kind of had this idea, like: \u201cI\u2019ll be home with the kids, and then I\u2019ll go back to working.\u201d I had this feeling of: \u201cI think there has to be more for me.\u201d I always want to say that, if you\u2019re able to stay home with your kids, it is a privilege; I know that, and I\u2019m <em>thankful<\/em> for it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut something started stirring in me, where I was like: \u201cI think God is moving in me and asking me to do something else,\u201d which is what led me to audition for a radio show. That was the first time that I ever did something out of the box. I thought, \u201cI think I\u2019m going to something other than teaching and coaching, and I think I\u2019m going to do something different than I ever thought I would do.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is a fun story, because I\u2014I\u2019ll tell you what happened\u2014I\u2019m driving in Austin, Texas. I\u2019ve got four kids; they\u2019re young at the time. I hear on the radio\u2014I listen to country radio\u2014and I hear them advertise that they have an open casting call for anyone to send in an audition tape to join the morning show. I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, that sounds fun.\u201d My husband, Aaron, is an artist; so we had a studio in our backyard\/a house in the back. I said, \u201cBabe, please help me.\u201d I created a demo. It was voting; it was by votes, so I rallied all my friends. I made it to the top ten in votes; and then from there, the executives pick. I made it to the top <em>five<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember Aaron and I went on a date. I hadn\u2019t worked outside the home since we had kids\u2014seven\/eight years\u2014we went on a date. He\u2019s like, \u201cI think we should talk about this.\u201d [Laughter] I was like, \u201cWhat?!\u201d\u2014still thinking\u2014\u201cThere\u2019s absolutely no way: \u201cWhat are the chances?\u201d I\u2019m in the top five now. He goes, \u201cWe should talk about this; because if you get a job, we\u2019ll have to figure this out.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He was worried a little bit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> I think he was worried; I think I should\u2019ve been worried. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cWho\u2019s making breakfast?\u201d is what he\u2019s thinking. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cWho\u2019s getting the kids to school?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> He\u2019s like, \u201cWho\u2019s dealing with these children?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI went in on a Thursday, and I got to go on air\u2014everybody did\u2014and I left there, that morning, thinking, \u201cIf nothing else, this was <em>so much fun<\/em>.\u201d You guys, I ended up winning. [Laughter] So here I am now; I had never spoken into a microphone before then. The guys that I worked with were <em>so kind<\/em> to me and so nice. It ended up being my favorite job I had ever had up until then; I was on cloud nine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut here\u2019s what you need to know. I won this job, so I go from stay-at-home mom to now on air, live, at 6:00 am; so I have to be there at 5 in the morning.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s not easy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> It\u2019s not easy, and my husband still travels a lot. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave and Bob: <\/strong>Oh!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie: <\/strong>It\u2019s a hard season. Also, this was in 2011. Three of our kids have joined our family through adoption. One of them had been home maybe 14 months; he was 4 1\/2. If anyone has ever been around adoption, it\u2019s <em>hard<\/em> at the beginning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI start working; and I am having the best time of my life, while everyone at my house is <em>dying<\/em>\u2014my kids were struggling; Aaron and I were struggling. I\u2019m tired; but I thought, \u201cGod, I have found what I am supposed to do for the rest of my life.\u201d About three months in, I came to Aaron; I was like, \u201cHave you noticed it\u2019s difficult around here?\u201d He\u2019s like, \u201cYou think?!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLooking back now, I am <em>so grateful<\/em> that he let <em>me<\/em> feel that tension; and he didn\u2019t come to me and say, \u201cYou have to quit.\u201d I would\u2019ve listened to him, but I think that would\u2019ve been hard for me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Even the fact that he didn\u2019t put his foot down and say, \u201cWe can\u2019t do this! I\u2019m on the road all the time.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> I know. I look back; and I\u2019m like, \u201cHe\u2019s such a cheerleader for me, and me for him. That was a season where it cost him a lot.\u201d Four months\u2014I quit. It was the hardest, best decision I\u2019ve ever made; I didn\u2019t want to. I was a little angry with God; I didn\u2019t understand: \u201cWhy would I try out, and why would I win? You knew I was going to have to give this up. You still let me do this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI felt a little embarrassed; I felt a little humiliated. I felt like, \u201cI can\u2019t do it\u201d; I felt like a failure. The biggest thing I felt was, when I was on the radio, it was the first time in my life\u2014and I don\u2019t know how to explain this; maybe you guys will understand, because you do this\u2014I felt like I had a voice. I felt, for the first time in my life, that I had found my groove: \u201cI speak, and I get to make a difference in thousands of people\u2019s lives.\u201d I <em>loved<\/em> that, and I was good at it\u2014so they said. I thought, \u201cI love this\u201d; and I thought I found my voice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I quit, I went through a lot of months of feeling like, \u201cI don\u2019t have a voice anymore; I don\u2019t make a difference. I don\u2019t have anything to say; no one\u2019s listening to me.\u201d I learned maybe one of my biggest lessons in life; I talk about it in this book. The voice that I thought I \u201cfound\u201d on that radio show\u2014I always had it. You said earlier, \u201cAre you the same person you were in high school?\u2014just looks different?\u201d I don\u2019t think God <em>gave<\/em> me a voice in March when I got that job. I don\u2019t think He took my voice away when I quit. I just think I used it differently. I had been using that voice when I was teaching fifth grade Sunday school or when I was coaching a volleyball team; I\u2019ve been using that voice with my four kids in my home for the past seven years. That was such a good lesson for me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s something I see with women\u2014is they think: \u201cIf I can get bigger and better, then I\u2019ll be important,\u201d \u201cIf I can get more followers, then I\u2019ll have something to say.\u201d I want to say, \u201cYou already have something to say; say it to the people in front of you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWas it hard to quit?\u2014yes. Did God teach me a lot?\u2014I\u2019m so grateful for that lesson; because it forced me to realize, \u201cOkay; you can use that voice in your home; you can use it everywhere you go.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I have such a similar story. I was a stay-at-home mom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> She did not win a radio show\/\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Did you win a radio show? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014DJ contest.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Nothing close to that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, hang on. Let\u2019s talk about what you\u2019re doing <em>today<\/em>; you\u2019re the co-host for <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>But it is true\u2014Dave and I were doing ministry together, before we had kids, for six years\u2014and I was <em>loving<\/em> it; I was <em>thriving<\/em> in it. I felt God calling us to have kids, and He graciously gave us three sons. But then, that was <em>hard<\/em>; I almost felt like I felt jealous of what Dave was doing\u2014how he was bringing people to Christ\/how he was impacting the world\u2014I felt like, \u201cI\u2019m doing nothing.\u201d What I would say in my head was, \u201cI have no life anymore.\u201d I hear <em>so many<\/em> women saying the same thing: \u201cI have no life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, I decided to start our women\u2019s ministry at our church. Our kids were 12, 10, and 7; and man, it filled me up. It started growing and thriving.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> She was good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I thought, \u201cThis is it! I\u2019m leading; I\u2019m impacting. I am doing this thing that I had this vision for.\u201d I found that I couldn\u2019t release all of that in my head when I was home, so I was distracted; I was constantly on the phone. Our youngest, who was seven, was really troubled by the whole thing\u2014like: \u201cWhy aren\u2019t you home anymore?\u201d \u201cWhy aren\u2019t you playing with me anymore?\u201d \u201cWhy aren\u2019t you playing football with me anymore?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, the guilt is creeping in; but I felt like, \u201cBut God put this\u2026\u201d\u2014and He\u2019s growing this, and the ministry\u2019s thriving. An older mentor came into town to speak at an event we had. I said, \u201cI feel like I need to be home. I feel like our family is struggling with me out here; yet, I have this call that I can\u2019t get rid of. I don\u2019t know what to do. I feel like the ministry will fall apart if I quit.\u201d She said, \u201cIf God can\u2019t replace <em>you<\/em>, you must <em>really<\/em> be something.\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOuch! That was so convicting, so I quit. I had a new vision for my family and the importance of pouring into our kids\u2014that I <em>did<\/em> have a life\u2014this was an <em>incredible<\/em> life. It sparked that feeling of: \u201cOh, I <em>can<\/em> be used by God in other ways; but for now, I need to <em>focus<\/em> on this ministry.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie: <\/strong>Look where you are now!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s what I want to ask both you women\u2014look where you are now\u2014you have a pretty substantial influence <em>outside<\/em> your home. \u201cWhat if you weren\u2019t doing this? What if it <em>never<\/em> was different than when you were moms in your homes?\u201d There are a lot of moms listening\/they\u2019re like, \u201cI\u2019m never going to be on the radio; I\u2019m not going to have a podcast; I\u2019m not going to write a book. I\u2019m going to raise sons and daughters, and that\u2019s it.\u201d Is that okay? Is that enough?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s\u2014we\u2019re not thinking about it the right way\u2014because I think everyone has different gifts, and talents, and passions, and voices, and influence. And for some reason, that we don\u2019t understand, this is where God has us. It\u2019s not better; it\u2019s just <em>different<\/em>. I think that mom, who\u2019s at home\u2014and she\u2019s like, \u201cMan, that would be fun to be on the radio. I\u2019m just making another batch of macaroni and cheese for the \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t17<sup>th<\/sup> time.\u201d That is where God has you, in that <em>moment<\/em>; I have been in that moment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And He\u2019s <em>shaping<\/em> you in the moment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Yes; for me, when I look back at it\u2014like a professional standpoint in my life\u2014I mean, yes, I quit. Then, six years later\u2014or I don\u2019t know how many years later\u2014I started my own show, and that changed my <em>entire<\/em> career and my life. Now my kids are bigger; and they understand that Mom leaves because she goes to tell people about Jesus. When I travel, that\u2019s what it is: \u201cI\u2019m going to go tell people about Jesus; I\u2019m not just leaving you guys here\u2014that\u2019s what I\u2019m doing.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s what I want women to know. I don\u2019t want them to look at me or <em>you<\/em> and think, \u201cWell, God\u2019s really using <em>them<\/em>\u201d; because God was really using <em>me<\/em> in my home, and He still is. God was using me when, like I said, I was a Sunday school teacher for <em>years<\/em>. That influence <em>mattered<\/em>; The influence that you have <em>matters<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The young woman, who\u2019s listening and going, \u201cNow, wait; why did you guys have to give up what <em>you<\/em> loved and what <em>you<\/em> were good at to make things work at home? Why didn\u2019t your husbands give up what <em>they<\/em> love and what <em>they\u2019re<\/em> good at, and let you be who God made you to be out in the marketplace?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Yes, that\u2019s a good question; yes, yes. I have a really good friend who, at the same time, was starting a company. She\u2019s asked me that; she\u2019s like, \u201cDid you and Aaron ever talk about why you had to quit and he didn\u2019t?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe <em>didn\u2019t <\/em>talk about that, for our family, particularly. I had been a stay-at-home mom when we started our family. We decided: \u201cYou know what? We have the opportunity,\u201d\u2014we had the income\u2014\u201cWe\u2019re going to decide for you to stay home with the kids.\u201d It was my choice; it was what we wanted. It just made sense in our family for me to do what I had done previously. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLike I said, Aaron was so kind; because he knew how much that meant to me. Neither one of us are God, so we couldn\u2019t have seen what God had in store for me. Looking back, I\u2019m like, \u201cGod, I\u2019m going to trust You next time. I\u2019m not going to be so mad at You when You make me do things I don\u2019t want to do.\u201d Because you never know what\u2019s on the other side. That\u2019s how it was for me; that\u2019s how our family had started. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think I looked at it, like, \u201cThis great ministry is out here, and I\u2019m doing this <em>little<\/em> ministry in my home.\u201d I think I realized, \u201cNo; the <em>great<\/em> ministry is in my home. I\u2019m raising <em>warriors<\/em>. I\u2019m raising people that could impact the next generation for Christ.\u201d I had this whole new vision of: \u201cThis is the greatest calling I could ever have. I <em>get<\/em> to stay home; not everybody can do that.\u201d It was this honor and privilege. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of the days felt like a <em>million<\/em> years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie: <\/strong>Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>You\u2019re just in it sometimes; and you feel like, \u201cI\u2019m not doing <em>anything<\/em> but changing diapers and making macaroni and cheese.\u201d Now that I\u2019m on the other side, I think, \u201cMan; those were the most <em>precious<\/em> moments that I could have.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I tell you what\u2014it\u2019s hard for the husband; because I would come home, and she would be voicing that struggle: \u201cI\u2019m not doing anything. My life is just hidden.\u201d Most husbands were probably like me; you\u2019re like, \u201cOh, no, honey. You\u2019re making a difference in what you do.\u201d It didn\u2019t matter what I said; it didn\u2019t seem like it could convince you that your ministry mattered. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m thinking, right now, speak to that mom. You just sort of did; and it\u2019s in your book, <em>You Be You<\/em>. But what would you say to the mom that\u2019s right now chasing a kid around the house?\u2014and they\u2019re feeling like, \u201cMy life doesn\u2019t really matter,\u201d\u2014what would you say to her?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie: <\/strong>The one thing I want to say for sure is that the quality of your influence matters over the quantity. I mean that by\u2014the people that you\u2019re influencing; it could be three kids\u2014but that <em>matters<\/em> so much to what you\u2019re doing\/is that quantity that you\u2019re pouring into them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI also want to say this\u2014I don\u2019t get on a soapbox or anything\u2014I also want to really encourage her to watch what she\u2019s inputting into her brain. It\u2019s really hard to fight that and believe that when you\u2019re constantly scrolling, looking at what you think is a better life. It\u2019s hard to be like: \u201cNo, God; I trust You with this life\u201d; and then, you\u2019re scrolling Instagram and Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, and you see this woman; she\u2019s on another trip with her work. You\u2019re like, \u201cMan, I wish I could wear a power suit and go to work in San Francisco for the weekend.\u201d You start to think, \u201cMan, my life doesn\u2019t matter, and <em>hers<\/em> does.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe can say all day: \u201cYou need to fight to believe this; you need to stay in God\u2019s Word. You need to surround yourself with good community.\u201d But practically, you might need to get off your phone! You might need to stop the scrolling to think, \u201c<em>Her<\/em> life looks better.\u201d I still have to deal with that all the time, of believing that what I\u2019m doing matters. Sometimes that becomes difficult when you\u2019re looking at other people\u2019s Instagram perfect reels. Listen\u2014I love Instagram, guys; it\u2019s my favorite social media\u2014but I take breaks all the time from it\u2014I mean, all the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Even last week, I can find myself\u2014we\u2019re busy\u2014and I can find myself, at the end of the day, wanting to sit down and find something on Netflix: \u201cOh, I want to find something that\u2019s going to be great.\u201d I\u2019ve been talking to God a lot and praying\/I was saying, \u201cGod, I want to walk with You; I want to know You; I want to be closer to You than I ever have been in my life.\u201d I felt this tug of the Holy Spirit saying, \u201cThen spend more time with Me. Spend more time with Me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019m not on Netflix\u201d; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; so I thought, \u201cAlright; I\u2019m going to read. I\u2019m not going to turn on TV at night. I\u2019m going to go up and read.\u201d I don\u2019t know why sometimes that can feel like a <em>chore<\/em>. I started doing that, and I was <em>amazed<\/em>. My heart felt like it was on <em>fire<\/em> for Jesus. What happens, too, is the social media\u2014you start to see it in a new way\u2014like, \u201cOh, this isn\u2019t benefitting me.\u201d I think, especially with young kids, all we want is a break: \u201cI just want a break. I just want to veg out.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut even talking to God throughout the day: talking to Him about what you\u2019re doing, listening to His voice, being in the Word, and having a community of women telling you: \u201cThis is what matters; what you\u2019re doing matters. You do have a voice; you are influencing.\u201d That really makes a difference.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019ll add this, because you two just talk to the women. I\u2019ll talk to the guys\u2014the husbands\/the dads\u2014I thought, back in those days, my words didn\u2019t really impact her; yet they did. I would just say, \u201cHusbands, today I\u2019m looking you in the eye\/I\u2019m staring you in the eye. You tell your woman she matters; you tell her what she\u2019s doing is valuable.\u201d Write her!\u2014write something down.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Thank her; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Text her. Pick up Jamie\u2019s book, <em>You Be You<\/em>. Encourage her; say, \u201cBe you! You are literally changing the world. Don\u2019t you believe the lie that you aren\u2019t.\u201d She needs to hear that from her man. I\u2019m telling you\u2014from man to man\u2014do it today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let me just say\u2014you could go to your wife tonight\u2014and say, \u201cI ordered a book for you today. I heard it on the radio today, and I went to FamilyLifeToday.com. I ordered Jamie Ivey\u2019s book, <em>You Be You<\/em>; and I want you to read this. Maybe we can read it together.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jamie:<\/strong> Or\/and you can say, \u201cI\u2019m going to take the kids for a couple hours, and you can go read the book!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>All:<\/strong> Ohhh! There you go! That\u2019s perfect!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Go to FamilyLifeToday.com and get a copy of Jamie\u2019s book. In fact, we\u2019re making Jamie\u2019s book available this week to any listener who can help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> with a donation of any amount. The book is called <em>You Be You: Why Satisfaction and Success Are Closer Than You Think.<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com to make an online donation; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to donate over the phone. Request your copy of the book, <em>You Be You<\/em>, by Jamie Ivey. If you\u2019re not yet listening to Jamie\u2019s podcast, which is called <em>The Happy Hour<\/em>, there\u2019s a link on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com. You can get subscribed and start listening to Jamie every week. Again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me say, \u201cThank you for your support of this ministry.\u201d It means so much to us every time you make a donation, which you\u2019re actually investing in is the marriages and families of people in your community\/people all around the world, who are depending on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for practical biblical help and hope for their marriage and their family. You make that possible through your donations. We\u2019re always glad to hear from you. We hope you enjoy Jamie\u2019s book, <em>You Be You<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you can join us, again, tomorrow when we\u2019re going to talk about how the culture of comparison that we live in affects how we see ourselves\/our ability to embrace being the people God has made us to be. Jamie Ivey\u2019s going to join us, again, tomorrow. I hope you can be here as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> of Little Rock, Arkansas; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\ta Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. Help for today. 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