{"id":306571,"date":"2020-11-23T07:00:04","date_gmt":"2020-11-23T12:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/pursuing-love-faith-and-mount-everest\/"},"modified":"2020-11-23T07:00:04","modified_gmt":"2020-11-23T12:00:04","slug":"pursuing-love-faith-and-mount-everest","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/pursuing-love-faith-and-mount-everest\/","title":{"rendered":"Pursuing Love, Faith, and Mount Everest"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Known for openness about their marriage on social media, Harold and Rachel Earls have co-authored a book, called &#8220;A Higher Calling.&#8221; Hear the unique story of how God brought them together.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/mp3.familylife.com\/fl2020-11-23.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:26:19","filesize":"24.1M","filesize_raw":"25272063","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2817,2807,2810],"tags":[4604],"podcast_series":[8411],"cwp_profile":[9674],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-306571","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-choosing-a-spouse","category-engagements-and-weddings","category-growing-spiritually","tag-military-marriage","podcast_series-a-higher-calling","cwp_profile-harold-and-rachel-earls","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/306571\/pursuing-love-faith-and-mount-everest","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/306571\/pursuing-love-faith-and-mount-everest","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"EsLok4rUGd\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/pursuing-love-faith-and-mount-everest\/\">Pursuing Love, Faith, and Mount Everest<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/pursuing-love-faith-and-mount-everest\/embed\/#?secret=EsLok4rUGd\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Pursuing Love, Faith, and Mount Everest&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"EsLok4rUGd\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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That means Harold and Rachel Earls were well below average when they became husband and wife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I think some people question: \u201cShould you get married young?\u201d or \u201c\u2026get married later?\u201d if you have a choice. One beautiful thing that came from that is that we were so young that we could really form and craft our future and our identity in each other and God. Rather, when you get older, sometimes it gets harder to merge those two lives together. We actually had that going for us, because we knew what was on the other side. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, November 23<sup>rd<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. We\u2019ll meet Harold and Rachel Earls today and hear about their incredible marriage adventure. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. This feels like it should be a screenplay to me; you know?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It would be a good screenplay; yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014a love story that we\u2019re going to hear. I think some of our listeners go, \u201cI already know this story, because I know this couple, because I\u2019ve been watching them\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And they\u2019re <em>beautiful<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014that\u2019s right\u2014you watch on their YouTube channel; you see what they\u2019re doing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019ve got a book out now called <em>Higher Calling<\/em>. We\u2019re glad to have them joining us on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> Harold and Rachel Earls, welcome. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Hey, thanks for having us. Only if Channing Tatum can play me. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, Rachel, who would <em>you<\/em> pick?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> I call Rachel McAdams. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s a good one! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay! I can see this as a nice movie. You\u2019ve already thought this through; haven\u2019t you? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel: <\/strong>I don\u2019t know!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> We have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Maybe these guys will be stepping down, because you\u2019re pretty amazing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know about that; I think Rachel for sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Our acting ability\u2014Mmmm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The Earls family blog has been online for\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> It started back in 2014 when it was just Rachel Earls.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It started with your viral video about having a boyfriend, who was at West Point\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes, it did!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and just grew out of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I\u2019ve said, you guys have written this book. Harold, you, up until recently, were in the Army. You went to West Point. You just completed a tour at the Old Guard, guarding the Tomb of the Unknowns; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I did; I was the Commander of the Guard, actually, at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYour book is kind of a memoir, both about climbing Everest, which we\u2019re going to get to\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Just a small, little\u2014could\u2019ve done it last week. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014little weekend jaunt you took. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think we want to go back. I was fascinated in looking at your book at how quickly you guys <em>knew<\/em>, \u201cThis is the one.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So tell us how you met.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Where to begin? My best friend in the whole world, Tommy Ferguson\u2014they\u2019re cousins [Tommy and Rachel]\u2014he was always like, \u201cHey, I have this <em>awesome<\/em> cousin. She\u2019s a redhead; you have to meet her.\u201d For me, I was like, \u201cHey, man; I am just <em>not<\/em> into redheads.\u201d But he showed me a picture of her; I was like, \u201cMan!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cNow, I\u2019m into redheads!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019m into redheads!\u201d [Laughter] From there, I talked to Tommy. He\u2019s like, \u201cI\u2019ve paved the way. I already talked to her; she knows who you are.\u201d I shot her a friend request on Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You had already been set up by Tommy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel: <\/strong>No; <em>I<\/em> did not know anything <em>at all<\/em>. I was going into my sophomore year of college. I had just previously had a breakup the year before. I\u2019d been spending my time healing and pursuing God, and falling in love with Him all over again. I remember, that night before, I\u2019d been writing in my journal. I was praying to God, saying, \u201cI know there is a great guy out there for me, and I am okay if the timing is not right now; because I\u2019m so happy. But could You give me just some sort of sign that maybe he\u2019s out there?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSure enough, the next day is when I get this Facebook request from Harold Earls. I was like, \u201cWho is this person?\u201d I saw our mutual friends on Facebook were just my family members. Tommy had <em>not<\/em> told me anything at all; so I was blindsided, if you will.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> But did you check him <em>out<\/em>? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Oh, I did! Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Of course, you checked him out. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> I <em>did<\/em>. After I saw that message, I was like, \u201cOkay; pictures.\u201d I noticed military and baseball. I was like, \u201cWhat is going on here?\u201d I start calling my mom, because my mom is the knower of all things family. I\u2019m like, \u201cMom, who is this person?\u201d She denies this; I\u2019m like, \u201cOkay; I guess I\u2019ll figure it out for myself.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe start messaging back and forth and pretty much just instantly hit it off.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Very, very quickly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What was it that you thought, \u201cThis could be the one\u201d? What was it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> To give you some context, the first time we had our first phone call, we were on the call for over six hours.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> The first phone call.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> First phone call. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> First phone call\u2014six hours.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You didn\u2019t think you were going to be on a long phone call.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Not at all; not at all. I was thinking maybe 30 minutes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We did this. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Six hours?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Yes; I was actually walking around the baseball field at West Point. I\u2019d walk around the bases, walk around the bases, walk around the bases. It got really late at night. It\u2019s like: \u201cOkay; now, curfew at West Point; I\u2019ve got to go back.\u201d I go back to my barracks room and lay on my barracks bed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll never forget the depths of conversation that we had. I think that\u2019s when it really revealed itself to me\u2014that I\u2019ve never been so open and had such deep and emotionally-revealing conversation to myself and about someone else before. That, for me, was like, \u201cOh, my goodness.\u201d I\u2019ll never forget, at the end of the call, I actually was like, \u201cI think I\u2019ve found you.\u201d I literally said that out loud. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oooh! That\u2019s a good line. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> That seems <em>crazy<\/em>; right?\u2014like someone that I have technically never seen before in person, but just through the connection that we had\u2014\u201cI think God just revealed who I\u2019m going to marry.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I find it interesting. You\u2019re hundreds of miles away from one another. You\u2019re a student at Florida State University; you\u2019re at West Point when this is happening; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019ve seen a picture; but you go, \u201cI\u2019m going to pick up the phone and call this person I\u2019ve <em>never<\/em> met before, who\u2019s 1,000 miles away.\u201d I\u2019m thinking, like, \u201cFor what?!\u201d If this goes somewhere, you can\u2019t really go anywhere right away. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> That wasn\u2019t the plan [to call her]. I was Facebook messaging her back and forth. My best friend, Tommy, actually got on to my Facebook and started sending messages as me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Come on!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I had to expedite the process a little bit more\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Oh, yes! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> \u2014I had to call her, essentially as: \u201cHey, I\u2019m so sorry; he got on my Facebook. That wasn\u2019t me saying ridiculous things.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> I was like, \u201cHold up a second! Is this a big prank?! What is going on?!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think we need to have Tommy on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold: <\/strong>Yes, really. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>A six-hour phone call\u2014when you hung up from that phone call with a guy, who just said to you, \u201cI think I\u2019ve found you,\u201d\u2014and this is like four in the morning; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> It was two in the morning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re probably 20 years old?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes; we were 20; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What are you thinking?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> I thought the exact same thing\u2014like \u201cDitto!\u201d\u2014like: \u201cI know!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou have to understand a little of the background, too; it wasn\u2019t just a phone call completely out of the blue. I had done a little bit of research\u2014then talking to Tommy and his mom\u2014understanding who Harold was\/knowing that he had a relationship with God\u2014and knowing also the type of man my cousin Tommy was\u2014I <em>knew<\/em> he had to be a good guy himself, so I had a bit of that background information.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s so important\u2014you actually mention it in the book\u2014that it became clear that we were running in the same direction of life. I think that, when you see that\u2014and you find a partner, and you look to the right and say, \u201cHey, I\u2019m going this direction, and so are you,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s when it really was revealing to us. From talking to our family and her friends, and learning where her heart was\/what her passions were\u2014how she pursued the Lord\u2014that\u2019s when it became evident to me that: \u201cThis is different than anything I\u2019ve ever been a part of.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I have to share one of my favorite all-time quotes, because you just illustrated it. Tommy Nelson, who\u2019s a pastor in Denton, Texas\u2014speaking to singles one time\u2014he said, \u201cIf you\u2019re single, your job is to run as hard and as fast toward Jesus as you can. While you\u2019re running, if out of the corner of your eye, you see someone running in the same direction at the same speed, take a second look.\u201d That\u2019s the path both of you were on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Tell us about your faith story and how faith became real for you guys.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Tommy\/we [he and I] actually love this saying that Andy Stanley says: \u201cBecome the person that the person you\u2019re looking for is looking for.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I have preached <em>that<\/em> saying. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>\u2014many times.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> It\u2019s beautiful. It\u2019s essentially saying the same thing, as Bob, as what you just said. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor me to learn that\u2014I\u2019m very grateful for him as my best friend, because I think we learned that at a young age\u2014we realized that iron sharpens iron. We worked very hard to become the very best versions of ourselves. That took time; that took years. I know that, if I would\u2019ve met Rachel two years earlier than that, we never would have hit it off; because I wasn\u2019t the man that God wanted me to be and needed me to be for her. That was how He was working on me all along. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Likewise, meeting Harold\u2014I think, in my previous relationships, it was obvious we weren\u2019t running the same race; we weren\u2019t really both after God. Until, to know Harold, feeling like we were equally yoked was this big eye-opening thing of: \u201cThis really <em>could<\/em> be my person.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo rewind a little bit about my faith journey. It happened when I was in sixth grade; I was going through confirmation. My grandma had just died at the same time; it was the first time I had dealt with death. I was questioning <em>everything<\/em>. I\u2019m learning about God, but here my grandma\u2019s dying. I went to this confirmation retreat; and in the chapel, there\u2019s these glass doors overlooking the lake with this cross in the middle of it. They had sort of like an altar call, where you could come down and pray. I\u2019d never done anything like that in my life, but I decided to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn that moment, I felt God\u2019s presence. That was when I chose, and I just gave my life to God. It was kind of that child-like faith in the beginning. Every step of the way through my life, through all of the obstacles, leaning on God, knowing that He was there when it sometimes felt like nobody else was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How has your faith made a difference in your relationship?\u2014in your marriage?\u2014in your future?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> For us, it\u2019s the foundation; it\u2019s the bedrock; right? If you have nothing to build on, as a relationship, it\u2019s going to crumble away. But we know that we <em>always<\/em> have that foundation. We <em>always<\/em> know where our hearts are at. It makes it so much easier to overcome when you do have those adversities. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Right; it\u2019s that common ground that <em>everything<\/em> comes back to. The answer to <em>everything<\/em> at the end of the day is: \u201cGod.\u201d And also, how do you love somebody?\u2014the greatest example of that is Jesus. To be able to live that out through your marriage, we have Someone to look up to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You\u2019re on that phone call.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> You can\u2019t get over this phone call; can you? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I just want to hear what happened next because I\u2019ve never\u2014I mean, we [Ann and Dave] didn\u2019t say that after the first phone call, but <em>you know<\/em>\u2014and you <em>both<\/em> know; right? And there\u2019s this faith component, which is the foundation. Did you fly down there that night and get married the next day? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Almost!\u2014not quite. One, at West Point, you can\u2019t get married until you graduate West Point. So no matter what, we had about a year-and-a-half we had to wait, thanks to the Army. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere was definitely big anticipation for actually meeting her in person for the first time. I had plans to go and see her. We had planned for\u2014I think it was about two months from that date\u2014to actually see each other in person. Unbeknownst to her, I was actually scheming behind the scenes, and had coordinated with her friends, and was planning on going down and surprising her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> My friends had invited me to this beach weekend. I was going to go with them and their parents to go to the beach. I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, this is fun.\u201d I start packing my bags, picking out my bathing suits\u2014sending pictures to Harold, saying, \u201cWhich one do you like better?\u201d\u2014so cringey to think about now. I\u2019m driving over\u2014it\u2019s like midnight\u2014to my friend\u2019s house. I\u2019m wearing my pajamas. I get over there, and our other friend wanted to introduce us to a guy that she had met. She said she was going to bring him over. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHarold had also told me that he was in the city that night with his friends, so he wouldn\u2019t be able to call me until really late. Well, it was really late; and eventually, I get a call from Harold. I\u2019m like, \u201cHey!\u201d; then, literally, walks through the door my friend and this guy that I\u2019m supposed to meet. I\u2019m like, \u201cHey; I\u2019m glad that you called, but can I call you back?\u201d He starts acting real strange, and I\u2019m not liking this. He\u2019s like, \u201cNo, don\u2019t call me back; talk to me <em>now<\/em>,\u201d type of thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was the first time that I was like, \u201cThis feels <em>weird<\/em>.\u201d Then he says, \u201cWhy would you call me back when I\u2019m already here?\u201d and opens the door and walks right in. My friend had picked him up from the airport. It was just after midnight; I\u2019m in a big camo t-shirt, Nike running shorts.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s fitting, though\u2014a camo t-shirt? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Nothing\u2019s changed for her now! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Literally!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What did that feel like?\u2014was it awkward?\u2014was it sweet?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> No, not at all; not at all. At first, before I came to the door, it was the first time that it didn\u2019t go according to plan; and I was kind of panicking. I was like, \u201cNo this is not how it\u2019s supposed to work!\u201d [Laughter] I\u2019ll never forget\u2014when I opened the door\u2014it was like overflowing, the amount of emotions. I think you definitely cried at some point.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> I did not cry! You say that every time. My body was <em>shaking<\/em>; I kept saying: \u201cWhat?!\u201d \u201cWhat?!\u201d \u201cWhat?!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And that\u2019s your first IRL\u2014first In Real Life face-to-face meeting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I-R-L?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold: <\/strong>You\u2019ve never heard that before?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Is this like a military term? What are you doing here? [Laughter] MRE [Military: meal ready to eat]? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is Twitter; you just say: \u201cIt\u2019s IMHO, IRL\u201d [\u201cIn my humble opinion, in real life\u201d].\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You are so cool, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I try to stay up with all of these. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> LOL [Laugh out loud], Bob. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How long from that first meeting until you said, \u201cOkay; we <em>are<\/em> getting married\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> There [were] a couple things between then. It was that night when he looked at me and said, \u201cYou\u2019re my girlfriend!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, he didn\u2019t ask? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> No; he didn\u2019t. I said, \u201cI am?!\u201d Then, he very cutely said, \u201cWait! Do you want to be?\u201d And of course, I said, \u201cYes.\u201d [Laughter] As he was going back up to West Point that weekend, I had this diamond ring that I wore on my right hand that my grandmother had given me. He actually switched it over to my left-hand ring finger, and he told me he liked the way it looked. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s a good way to save money. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> That\u2019s what I\u2019m saying. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You don\u2019t need to buy a ring; I like that idea!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Were you thinking you were getting engaged right then and there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> No; in hindsight, it would\u2019ve been smart. I would\u2019ve saved me some money. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s what I would\u2019ve done. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> From that ring ceremony that we have right there, you guys are talking, from the very first, like: \u201cI think you\u2019re the one.\u201d When did you start planning out your future?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel: <\/strong>It was probably about six months later when we got engaged, I think; another time when Harold came down and surprised me. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> All about those surprises. [Laughter] I will say\u2014the interesting thing with the Army is\u2014it\u2019s kind of a good thing and a bad thing\u2014it took out a lot of that unknown for us. We <em>knew<\/em>\/we knew once graduation happened in May, we were going to get married. Then I was going to serve for five years\u2014which is really a nice thing, actually\u2014having that stability and that purpose, if you will, that a lot of people struggle with.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe had the benefit of being young. Some people question: \u201cShould you get married young?\u201d or \u201c\u2026get married later?\u201d if you have a choice. One beautiful thing that came from that is that we were so young that we could really form and craft our future and our identity in each other and God. Rather, when you get older, sometimes it gets harder to merge those two lives together. We actually had that going for us, because we knew what was on the other side. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Everything you\u2019ve described here feels like it\u2019s been scripted.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014a fairy tale.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Channing Tatum\u2014I\u2019m telling you! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There had to have been times\u2014during your dating\/ during your engagement\u2014where you thought: \u201cI\u2019m not sure she\u2019s the one,\u201d \u201cI\u2019m not sure this is going to work,\u201d \u201cThere are things I learned about you that I didn\u2019t realize, and that\u2019s given me second thoughts.\u201d Do you remember some of those?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> There\u2019s <em>one <\/em>time\u2014one. There\u2019s times I was upset. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> \u2014Army\/Navy game. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel: <\/strong>Yes; but there was one time I really just had a <em>doubt<\/em>. The doubt wasn\u2019t really because of us, but it came down to his family. I felt like, specifically, his sister didn\u2019t like me. I <em>knew<\/em> how close that they were, and I didn\u2019t want to come between his family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe stayed up\u2014it was the Army\/Navy game for baseball\u2014Harold played baseball at West Point. We stayed up pretty much all through the night, just talking through everything, when he clearly should have been sleeping, preparing for this game. That <em>showed<\/em> me that he was choosing <em>us<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHis sister and I ended up working things out, and we are on great terms now. I love her so much. That was the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We\u2019ve got her on the phone right now. [Laughter] We\u2019re going to make sure that this is all true. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> She\u2019s getting married in a couple weeks. I\u2019ve got some questions for her myself. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> One of the things I noticed in your book was you decided to remain physically pure. That\u2019s a big deal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold: <\/strong>We did; yes, we did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What made you decide that?\u2014and did you take any harassment from buddies from that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> First off, I know that I would not have been able to be in that position if it wasn\u2019t for, honestly, God being beside me the whole time. Then, I credit a lot to having a best friend like Tommy. He was the same as me in how he chose to pursue his life. I really do feel that iron sharpens iron, and we can hold each other accountable. Without him, and without that type of friendship, I don\u2019t think that I would have been the man I am today, especially in regards to remaining abstinent. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat was a choice that we had; I am incredibly grateful for that. I think it is such a blessing, just knowing that we <em>both<\/em> chose to do that. There\u2019s a lot of beauty that comes from that\u2014that I think that, at that time, when I was about 15, 16, 17, 18, going through those challenging years that any teen guy goes through\u2014seeing what now is on the backend of that, I am honestly incredibly grateful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Did the guys at West Point know you\u2019re not sleeping with your girlfriend?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> They definitely knew that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You said, just a second ago, the benefits were worth it. What are those?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s a beautiful thing getting to discover that side with your spouse; right? There\u2019s so much intimacy that comes with that. I think, when you\u2019ve had other outside factors playing a role into that, there\u2019s all of these other questions that could be going through your mind. I think the beautiful thing with us is now it\u2019s so fun to explore with each other in that way, because we know that we have that freedom; we know that we have that protection in each other.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes; it\u2019s a safe place. Our pastor has talked about it before\u2014not allowing anybody else into your marriage bed\u2014even talking about a memory, because memories are still there; then, that brings up insecurity. You have <em>no idea<\/em> what that part of your relationship is going to be like\u2014so to be able to protect that\u2014I\u2019m just so thankful for. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Did you have girlfriends wondering why you weren\u2019t sleeping with your hunky West Point boyfriend?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes; I did. [Laughter] But that didn\u2019t really bother me; because I was like, \u201cI\u2019m not, and I know what I\u2019m doing,\u201d and \u201cWhy do you care anyways?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> We both knew what that moment was going to mean to us in our marriage. For us, because we were so passionate about waiting until we were married, I think it made it easier for us to do that, even though the physical connection was strong. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Take us to the wedding night, and I don\u2019t mean explicitly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I know. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m just thinking, \u201cYou waited; you paid a price to wait. There\u2019s couples out there, thinking, \u2018It\u2019s not worth it.\u2019\u201d Again, I don\u2019t want to know anything about your wedding night, really\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014the emotions.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014but in terms of remembering that moment in your marriage and your wedding, do you feel like, \u201cYes; this was worth the wait\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> We\u2019re glad we did it. It\u2019s interesting\u2014when you kind of go into the intimacy side of marriage, I expected, immediately, \u201cWe waited 23 years; it\u2019s going to be this <em>beautiful<\/em> thing right off the bat.\u201d That\u2019s just not life; that\u2019s not marriage. I think we see movies, and we picture all these picturesque things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s the problem.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes; that it is the problem.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> It\u2019s just not like that; right? Now, knowing that, and going through that discovery phase together, it has been incredible. It is something we <em>love<\/em> continuing to pursue. I think I had it all wrong in my mind. I think about culture and what the media does, and what it portrays it into, is not what it actually is and not what God intended. I think it\u2019s just like love: you work at it every single day, and it grows with time; so does your marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Anything great takes time and practice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes, yes; amen!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Lots of practice\u2014[Laughter]\u2014lots of kids. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The storybook\u2014we\u2019ve described it in storybook terms; but I want to make sure that folks understand that, along with the storybook, there\u2019s real life. You guys have conflict, and you\u2019ve got a real marriage with real issues. The fact that you purposed to do a lot of these things right, and you pursued one another in honorable ways, doesn\u2019t mean that now you have a ticket to a problem-free marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Right; no.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re very open about it, not only on your vlog, but in the book you\u2019ve written called <em>A Higher Calling<\/em>, where you write about pursuing love, faith, and Mount Everest for a greater purpose. I do have to tell you, when my wife read your book, she said, \u201cWhy does anyone want to climb Mount Everest?\u201d [Laughter] We\u2019ve got copies of the Earls\u2019 book, <em>A Higher Calling<\/em>. You can go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, to order a copy; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY,\u201d to get your copy of the book, <em>A Higher Calling<\/em>, by Harold and Rachel Earls.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, this is Thanksgiving weekend. We don\u2019t want to skip over Thanksgiving and rush into Christmas, even though there have been decorations in the stores for months now; but we do want to be ready for when the season arrives. FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> has a resource that we have been making available this month to those of you who can help support our ministry with a donation of any amount. It\u2019s a resource called \u201cThe Twelves Names of Christmas\u201d<sup>\u2122<\/sup>. It includes a dozen kid-friendly Christmas tree ornaments, each one depicting a different name or title for Jesus\u2014like: \u201cI am the Light of the World\u201d; \u201cI am the Living Water\u201d; \u201cI am the Lion of Judah\u201d; or \u201cthe Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.\u201d Each of these ornaments displays that name and gives you an opportunity to, as a parent, to explain more about the One whose birthday we celebrate in December. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, \u201cThe Twelve Names of Christmas\u201d is our way of saying, \u201cThank you,\u201d this month when you make a donation to help support the ongoing ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is entirely listener-supported. It\u2019s folks like you who make this daily program possible, along with the resources available on our website. All that we do, here, at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is underwritten by you. If you can help with a donation this month, we\u2019d love to send you \u201cThe Twelve Names of Christmas\u201d as a thank-you gift. We hope it will help your holiday season be more focused on Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe also hope you can join us here, again, tomorrow when we\u2019re going to hear more about Harold Earls\u2019 journey up Mount Everest and about some of the anxiety that created for both of them. I hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. Help for today. 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Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. This feels like it should be a screenplay to me; you know?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It would be a good screenplay; yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014a love story that we\u2019re going to hear. I think some of our listeners go, \u201cI already know this story, because I know this couple, because I\u2019ve been watching them\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And they\u2019re <em>beautiful<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014that\u2019s right\u2014you watch on their YouTube channel; you see what they\u2019re doing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019ve got a book out now called <em>Higher Calling<\/em>. We\u2019re glad to have them joining us on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> Harold and Rachel Earls, welcome. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Hey, thanks for having us. Only if Channing Tatum can play me. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, Rachel, who would <em>you<\/em> pick?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> I call Rachel McAdams. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s a good one! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay! I can see this as a nice movie. You\u2019ve already thought this through; haven\u2019t you? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel: <\/strong>I don\u2019t know!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> We have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Maybe these guys will be stepping down, because you\u2019re pretty amazing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know about that; I think Rachel for sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Our acting ability\u2014Mmmm.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The Earls family blog has been online for\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> It started back in 2014 when it was just Rachel Earls.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It started with your viral video about having a boyfriend, who was at West Point\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes, it did!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and just grew out of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I\u2019ve said, you guys have written this book. Harold, you, up until recently, were in the Army. You went to West Point. You just completed a tour at the Old Guard, guarding the Tomb of the Unknowns; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I did; I was the Commander of the Guard, actually, at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYour book is kind of a memoir, both about climbing Everest, which we\u2019re going to get to\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Just a small, little\u2014could\u2019ve done it last week. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014little weekend jaunt you took. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think we want to go back. I was fascinated in looking at your book at how quickly you guys <em>knew<\/em>, \u201cThis is the one.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So tell us how you met.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Where to begin? My best friend in the whole world, Tommy Ferguson\u2014they\u2019re cousins [Tommy and Rachel]\u2014he was always like, \u201cHey, I have this <em>awesome<\/em> cousin. She\u2019s a redhead; you have to meet her.\u201d For me, I was like, \u201cHey, man; I am just <em>not<\/em> into redheads.\u201d But he showed me a picture of her; I was like, \u201cMan!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cNow, I\u2019m into redheads!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019m into redheads!\u201d [Laughter] From there, I talked to Tommy. He\u2019s like, \u201cI\u2019ve paved the way. I already talked to her; she knows who you are.\u201d I shot her a friend request on Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You had already been set up by Tommy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel: <\/strong>No; <em>I<\/em> did not know anything <em>at all<\/em>. I was going into my sophomore year of college. I had just previously had a breakup the year before. I\u2019d been spending my time healing and pursuing God, and falling in love with Him all over again. I remember, that night before, I\u2019d been writing in my journal. I was praying to God, saying, \u201cI know there is a great guy out there for me, and I am okay if the timing is not right now; because I\u2019m so happy. But could You give me just some sort of sign that maybe he\u2019s out there?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSure enough, the next day is when I get this Facebook request from Harold Earls. I was like, \u201cWho is this person?\u201d I saw our mutual friends on Facebook were just my family members. Tommy had <em>not<\/em> told me anything at all; so I was blindsided, if you will.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> But did you check him <em>out<\/em>? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Oh, I did! Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Of course, you checked him out. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> I <em>did<\/em>. After I saw that message, I was like, \u201cOkay; pictures.\u201d I noticed military and baseball. I was like, \u201cWhat is going on here?\u201d I start calling my mom, because my mom is the knower of all things family. I\u2019m like, \u201cMom, who is this person?\u201d She denies this; I\u2019m like, \u201cOkay; I guess I\u2019ll figure it out for myself.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe start messaging back and forth and pretty much just instantly hit it off.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Very, very quickly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What was it that you thought, \u201cThis could be the one\u201d? What was it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> To give you some context, the first time we had our first phone call, we were on the call for over six hours.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> The first phone call.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> First phone call. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> First phone call\u2014six hours.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You didn\u2019t think you were going to be on a long phone call.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Not at all; not at all. I was thinking maybe 30 minutes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We did this. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Six hours?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Yes; I was actually walking around the baseball field at West Point. I\u2019d walk around the bases, walk around the bases, walk around the bases. It got really late at night. It\u2019s like: \u201cOkay; now, curfew at West Point; I\u2019ve got to go back.\u201d I go back to my barracks room and lay on my barracks bed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll never forget the depths of conversation that we had. I think that\u2019s when it really revealed itself to me\u2014that I\u2019ve never been so open and had such deep and emotionally-revealing conversation to myself and about someone else before. That, for me, was like, \u201cOh, my goodness.\u201d I\u2019ll never forget, at the end of the call, I actually was like, \u201cI think I\u2019ve found you.\u201d I literally said that out loud. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oooh! That\u2019s a good line. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> That seems <em>crazy<\/em>; right?\u2014like someone that I have technically never seen before in person, but just through the connection that we had\u2014\u201cI think God just revealed who I\u2019m going to marry.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I find it interesting. You\u2019re hundreds of miles away from one another. You\u2019re a student at Florida State University; you\u2019re at West Point when this is happening; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Correct.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019ve seen a picture; but you go, \u201cI\u2019m going to pick up the phone and call this person I\u2019ve <em>never<\/em> met before, who\u2019s 1,000 miles away.\u201d I\u2019m thinking, like, \u201cFor what?!\u201d If this goes somewhere, you can\u2019t really go anywhere right away. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> That wasn\u2019t the plan [to call her]. I was Facebook messaging her back and forth. My best friend, Tommy, actually got on to my Facebook and started sending messages as me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Come on!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I had to expedite the process a little bit more\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Oh, yes! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> \u2014I had to call her, essentially as: \u201cHey, I\u2019m so sorry; he got on my Facebook. That wasn\u2019t me saying ridiculous things.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> I was like, \u201cHold up a second! Is this a big prank?! What is going on?!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think we need to have Tommy on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold: <\/strong>Yes, really. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>A six-hour phone call\u2014when you hung up from that phone call with a guy, who just said to you, \u201cI think I\u2019ve found you,\u201d\u2014and this is like four in the morning; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> It was two in the morning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re probably 20 years old?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes; we were 20; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What are you thinking?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> I thought the exact same thing\u2014like \u201cDitto!\u201d\u2014like: \u201cI know!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou have to understand a little of the background, too; it wasn\u2019t just a phone call completely out of the blue. I had done a little bit of research\u2014then talking to Tommy and his mom\u2014understanding who Harold was\/knowing that he had a relationship with God\u2014and knowing also the type of man my cousin Tommy was\u2014I <em>knew<\/em> he had to be a good guy himself, so I had a bit of that background information.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s so important\u2014you actually mention it in the book\u2014that it became clear that we were running in the same direction of life. I think that, when you see that\u2014and you find a partner, and you look to the right and say, \u201cHey, I\u2019m going this direction, and so are you,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s when it really was revealing to us. From talking to our family and her friends, and learning where her heart was\/what her passions were\u2014how she pursued the Lord\u2014that\u2019s when it became evident to me that: \u201cThis is different than anything I\u2019ve ever been a part of.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I have to share one of my favorite all-time quotes, because you just illustrated it. Tommy Nelson, who\u2019s a pastor in Denton, Texas\u2014speaking to singles one time\u2014he said, \u201cIf you\u2019re single, your job is to run as hard and as fast toward Jesus as you can. While you\u2019re running, if out of the corner of your eye, you see someone running in the same direction at the same speed, take a second look.\u201d That\u2019s the path both of you were on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Tell us about your faith story and how faith became real for you guys.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Tommy\/we [he and I] actually love this saying that Andy Stanley says: \u201cBecome the person that the person you\u2019re looking for is looking for.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I have preached <em>that<\/em> saying. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>\u2014many times.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> It\u2019s beautiful. It\u2019s essentially saying the same thing, as Bob, as what you just said. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor me to learn that\u2014I\u2019m very grateful for him as my best friend, because I think we learned that at a young age\u2014we realized that iron sharpens iron. We worked very hard to become the very best versions of ourselves. That took time; that took years. I know that, if I would\u2019ve met Rachel two years earlier than that, we never would have hit it off; because I wasn\u2019t the man that God wanted me to be and needed me to be for her. That was how He was working on me all along. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Likewise, meeting Harold\u2014I think, in my previous relationships, it was obvious we weren\u2019t running the same race; we weren\u2019t really both after God. Until, to know Harold, feeling like we were equally yoked was this big eye-opening thing of: \u201cThis really <em>could<\/em> be my person.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo rewind a little bit about my faith journey. It happened when I was in sixth grade; I was going through confirmation. My grandma had just died at the same time; it was the first time I had dealt with death. I was questioning <em>everything<\/em>. I\u2019m learning about God, but here my grandma\u2019s dying. I went to this confirmation retreat; and in the chapel, there\u2019s these glass doors overlooking the lake with this cross in the middle of it. They had sort of like an altar call, where you could come down and pray. I\u2019d never done anything like that in my life, but I decided to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn that moment, I felt God\u2019s presence. That was when I chose, and I just gave my life to God. It was kind of that child-like faith in the beginning. Every step of the way through my life, through all of the obstacles, leaning on God, knowing that He was there when it sometimes felt like nobody else was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How has your faith made a difference in your relationship?\u2014in your marriage?\u2014in your future?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> For us, it\u2019s the foundation; it\u2019s the bedrock; right? If you have nothing to build on, as a relationship, it\u2019s going to crumble away. But we know that we <em>always<\/em> have that foundation. We <em>always<\/em> know where our hearts are at. It makes it so much easier to overcome when you do have those adversities. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Right; it\u2019s that common ground that <em>everything<\/em> comes back to. The answer to <em>everything<\/em> at the end of the day is: \u201cGod.\u201d And also, how do you love somebody?\u2014the greatest example of that is Jesus. To be able to live that out through your marriage, we have Someone to look up to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You\u2019re on that phone call.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> You can\u2019t get over this phone call; can you? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I just want to hear what happened next because I\u2019ve never\u2014I mean, we [Ann and Dave] didn\u2019t say that after the first phone call, but <em>you know<\/em>\u2014and you <em>both<\/em> know; right? And there\u2019s this faith component, which is the foundation. Did you fly down there that night and get married the next day? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Almost!\u2014not quite. One, at West Point, you can\u2019t get married until you graduate West Point. So no matter what, we had about a year-and-a-half we had to wait, thanks to the Army. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere was definitely big anticipation for actually meeting her in person for the first time. I had plans to go and see her. We had planned for\u2014I think it was about two months from that date\u2014to actually see each other in person. Unbeknownst to her, I was actually scheming behind the scenes, and had coordinated with her friends, and was planning on going down and surprising her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> My friends had invited me to this beach weekend. I was going to go with them and their parents to go to the beach. I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, this is fun.\u201d I start packing my bags, picking out my bathing suits\u2014sending pictures to Harold, saying, \u201cWhich one do you like better?\u201d\u2014so cringey to think about now. I\u2019m driving over\u2014it\u2019s like midnight\u2014to my friend\u2019s house. I\u2019m wearing my pajamas. I get over there, and our other friend wanted to introduce us to a guy that she had met. She said she was going to bring him over. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHarold had also told me that he was in the city that night with his friends, so he wouldn\u2019t be able to call me until really late. Well, it was really late; and eventually, I get a call from Harold. I\u2019m like, \u201cHey!\u201d; then, literally, walks through the door my friend and this guy that I\u2019m supposed to meet. I\u2019m like, \u201cHey; I\u2019m glad that you called, but can I call you back?\u201d He starts acting real strange, and I\u2019m not liking this. He\u2019s like, \u201cNo, don\u2019t call me back; talk to me <em>now<\/em>,\u201d type of thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was the first time that I was like, \u201cThis feels <em>weird<\/em>.\u201d Then he says, \u201cWhy would you call me back when I\u2019m already here?\u201d and opens the door and walks right in. My friend had picked him up from the airport. It was just after midnight; I\u2019m in a big camo t-shirt, Nike running shorts.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s fitting, though\u2014a camo t-shirt? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Nothing\u2019s changed for her now! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Literally!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What did that feel like?\u2014was it awkward?\u2014was it sweet?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> No, not at all; not at all. At first, before I came to the door, it was the first time that it didn\u2019t go according to plan; and I was kind of panicking. I was like, \u201cNo this is not how it\u2019s supposed to work!\u201d [Laughter] I\u2019ll never forget\u2014when I opened the door\u2014it was like overflowing, the amount of emotions. I think you definitely cried at some point.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> I did not cry! You say that every time. My body was <em>shaking<\/em>; I kept saying: \u201cWhat?!\u201d \u201cWhat?!\u201d \u201cWhat?!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And that\u2019s your first IRL\u2014first In Real Life face-to-face meeting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I-R-L?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold: <\/strong>You\u2019ve never heard that before?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Is this like a military term? What are you doing here? [Laughter] MRE [Military: meal ready to eat]? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is Twitter; you just say: \u201cIt\u2019s IMHO, IRL\u201d [\u201cIn my humble opinion, in real life\u201d].\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You are so cool, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I try to stay up with all of these. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> LOL [Laugh out loud], Bob. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How long from that first meeting until you said, \u201cOkay; we <em>are<\/em> getting married\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> There [were] a couple things between then. It was that night when he looked at me and said, \u201cYou\u2019re my girlfriend!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, he didn\u2019t ask? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> No; he didn\u2019t. I said, \u201cI am?!\u201d Then, he very cutely said, \u201cWait! Do you want to be?\u201d And of course, I said, \u201cYes.\u201d [Laughter] As he was going back up to West Point that weekend, I had this diamond ring that I wore on my right hand that my grandmother had given me. He actually switched it over to my left-hand ring finger, and he told me he liked the way it looked. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s a good way to save money. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> That\u2019s what I\u2019m saying. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You don\u2019t need to buy a ring; I like that idea!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Were you thinking you were getting engaged right then and there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> No; in hindsight, it would\u2019ve been smart. I would\u2019ve saved me some money. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s what I would\u2019ve done. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> From that ring ceremony that we have right there, you guys are talking, from the very first, like: \u201cI think you\u2019re the one.\u201d When did you start planning out your future?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel: <\/strong>It was probably about six months later when we got engaged, I think; another time when Harold came down and surprised me. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> All about those surprises. [Laughter] I will say\u2014the interesting thing with the Army is\u2014it\u2019s kind of a good thing and a bad thing\u2014it took out a lot of that unknown for us. We <em>knew<\/em>\/we knew once graduation happened in May, we were going to get married. Then I was going to serve for five years\u2014which is really a nice thing, actually\u2014having that stability and that purpose, if you will, that a lot of people struggle with.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe had the benefit of being young. Some people question: \u201cShould you get married young?\u201d or \u201c\u2026get married later?\u201d if you have a choice. One beautiful thing that came from that is that we were so young that we could really form and craft our future and our identity in each other and God. Rather, when you get older, sometimes it gets harder to merge those two lives together. We actually had that going for us, because we knew what was on the other side. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Everything you\u2019ve described here feels like it\u2019s been scripted.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014a fairy tale.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Channing Tatum\u2014I\u2019m telling you! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There had to have been times\u2014during your dating\/ during your engagement\u2014where you thought: \u201cI\u2019m not sure she\u2019s the one,\u201d \u201cI\u2019m not sure this is going to work,\u201d \u201cThere are things I learned about you that I didn\u2019t realize, and that\u2019s given me second thoughts.\u201d Do you remember some of those?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> There\u2019s <em>one <\/em>time\u2014one. There\u2019s times I was upset. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> \u2014Army\/Navy game. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel: <\/strong>Yes; but there was one time I really just had a <em>doubt<\/em>. The doubt wasn\u2019t really because of us, but it came down to his family. I felt like, specifically, his sister didn\u2019t like me. I <em>knew<\/em> how close that they were, and I didn\u2019t want to come between his family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe stayed up\u2014it was the Army\/Navy game for baseball\u2014Harold played baseball at West Point. We stayed up pretty much all through the night, just talking through everything, when he clearly should have been sleeping, preparing for this game. That <em>showed<\/em> me that he was choosing <em>us<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHis sister and I ended up working things out, and we are on great terms now. I love her so much. That was the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We\u2019ve got her on the phone right now. [Laughter] We\u2019re going to make sure that this is all true. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> She\u2019s getting married in a couple weeks. I\u2019ve got some questions for her myself. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> One of the things I noticed in your book was you decided to remain physically pure. That\u2019s a big deal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold: <\/strong>We did; yes, we did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What made you decide that?\u2014and did you take any harassment from buddies from that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> First off, I know that I would not have been able to be in that position if it wasn\u2019t for, honestly, God being beside me the whole time. Then, I credit a lot to having a best friend like Tommy. He was the same as me in how he chose to pursue his life. I really do feel that iron sharpens iron, and we can hold each other accountable. Without him, and without that type of friendship, I don\u2019t think that I would have been the man I am today, especially in regards to remaining abstinent. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat was a choice that we had; I am incredibly grateful for that. I think it is such a blessing, just knowing that we <em>both<\/em> chose to do that. There\u2019s a lot of beauty that comes from that\u2014that I think that, at that time, when I was about 15, 16, 17, 18, going through those challenging years that any teen guy goes through\u2014seeing what now is on the backend of that, I am honestly incredibly grateful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Did the guys at West Point know you\u2019re not sleeping with your girlfriend?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> They definitely knew that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You said, just a second ago, the benefits were worth it. What are those?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s a beautiful thing getting to discover that side with your spouse; right? There\u2019s so much intimacy that comes with that. I think, when you\u2019ve had other outside factors playing a role into that, there\u2019s all of these other questions that could be going through your mind. I think the beautiful thing with us is now it\u2019s so fun to explore with each other in that way, because we know that we have that freedom; we know that we have that protection in each other.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes; it\u2019s a safe place. Our pastor has talked about it before\u2014not allowing anybody else into your marriage bed\u2014even talking about a memory, because memories are still there; then, that brings up insecurity. You have <em>no idea<\/em> what that part of your relationship is going to be like\u2014so to be able to protect that\u2014I\u2019m just so thankful for. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Did you have girlfriends wondering why you weren\u2019t sleeping with your hunky West Point boyfriend?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes; I did. [Laughter] But that didn\u2019t really bother me; because I was like, \u201cI\u2019m not, and I know what I\u2019m doing,\u201d and \u201cWhy do you care anyways?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> We both knew what that moment was going to mean to us in our marriage. For us, because we were so passionate about waiting until we were married, I think it made it easier for us to do that, even though the physical connection was strong. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Take us to the wedding night, and I don\u2019t mean explicitly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> I know. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m just thinking, \u201cYou waited; you paid a price to wait. There\u2019s couples out there, thinking, \u2018It\u2019s not worth it.\u2019\u201d Again, I don\u2019t want to know anything about your wedding night, really\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014the emotions.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014but in terms of remembering that moment in your marriage and your wedding, do you feel like, \u201cYes; this was worth the wait\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> We\u2019re glad we did it. It\u2019s interesting\u2014when you kind of go into the intimacy side of marriage, I expected, immediately, \u201cWe waited 23 years; it\u2019s going to be this <em>beautiful<\/em> thing right off the bat.\u201d That\u2019s just not life; that\u2019s not marriage. I think we see movies, and we picture all these picturesque things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s the problem.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes; that it is the problem.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> It\u2019s just not like that; right? Now, knowing that, and going through that discovery phase together, it has been incredible. It is something we <em>love<\/em> continuing to pursue. I think I had it all wrong in my mind. I think about culture and what the media does, and what it portrays it into, is not what it actually is and not what God intended. I think it\u2019s just like love: you work at it every single day, and it grows with time; so does your marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Anything great takes time and practice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Exactly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Yes, yes; amen!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Harold:<\/strong> Lots of practice\u2014[Laughter]\u2014lots of kids. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The storybook\u2014we\u2019ve described it in storybook terms; but I want to make sure that folks understand that, along with the storybook, there\u2019s real life. You guys have conflict, and you\u2019ve got a real marriage with real issues. The fact that you purposed to do a lot of these things right, and you pursued one another in honorable ways, doesn\u2019t mean that now you have a ticket to a problem-free marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Rachel:<\/strong> Right; no.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re very open about it, not only on your vlog, but in the book you\u2019ve written called <em>A Higher Calling<\/em>, where you write about pursuing love, faith, and Mount Everest for a greater purpose. I do have to tell you, when my wife read your book, she said, \u201cWhy does anyone want to climb Mount Everest?\u201d [Laughter] We\u2019ve got copies of the Earls\u2019 book, <em>A Higher Calling<\/em>. You can go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, to order a copy; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY,\u201d to get your copy of the book, <em>A Higher Calling<\/em>, by Harold and Rachel Earls.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, this is Thanksgiving weekend. We don\u2019t want to skip over Thanksgiving and rush into Christmas, even though there have been decorations in the stores for months now; but we do want to be ready for when the season arrives. FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> has a resource that we have been making available this month to those of you who can help support our ministry with a donation of any amount. It\u2019s a resource called \u201cThe Twelves Names of Christmas\u201d<sup>\u2122<\/sup>. It includes a dozen kid-friendly Christmas tree ornaments, each one depicting a different name or title for Jesus\u2014like: \u201cI am the Light of the World\u201d; \u201cI am the Living Water\u201d; \u201cI am the Lion of Judah\u201d; or \u201cthe Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.\u201d Each of these ornaments displays that name and gives you an opportunity to, as a parent, to explain more about the One whose birthday we celebrate in December. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, \u201cThe Twelve Names of Christmas\u201d is our way of saying, \u201cThank you,\u201d this month when you make a donation to help support the ongoing ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is entirely listener-supported. It\u2019s folks like you who make this daily program possible, along with the resources available on our website. All that we do, here, at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is underwritten by you. If you can help with a donation this month, we\u2019d love to send you \u201cThe Twelve Names of Christmas\u201d as a thank-you gift. We hope it will help your holiday season be more focused on Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe also hope you can join us here, again, tomorrow when we\u2019re going to hear more about Harold Earls\u2019 journey up Mount Everest and about some of the anxiety that created for both of them. I hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. Help for today. 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