{"id":306521,"date":"2020-11-04T07:00:04","date_gmt":"2020-11-04T12:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/the-rhythm-of-discipleship\/"},"modified":"2020-11-04T07:00:04","modified_gmt":"2020-11-04T12:00:04","slug":"the-rhythm-of-discipleship","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-rhythm-of-discipleship\/","title":{"rendered":"The Rhythm of Discipleship"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Is my child my disciple? Pastor Adam Griffin coaches parents on what it means to disciple their children. Griffin shares how his family opens their home for hospitality as a way to evangelize their neighbors, and the Wilsons, as well as Bob Lepine, share what their families have done to show their kids that evangelism is a normal and natural part of life. Don&#8217;t forget bedtime. Tucking the kids into bed is a great opportunity to read Bible stories and pray with and for them.<\/p>\n<p>Show Notes and Resources<\/p>\n<p> \tDownload FamilyLife&#8217;s new app! https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/app\/<br \/>\n \tFind resources from this podcast at https:\/\/shop.familylife.com\/Products.aspx?categoryid=130.<br \/>\n \tCheck out all that&#8217;s available on the FamilyLife Podcast Network.\u00a0 https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/familylife-podcast-network\/<br \/>\n \tHave the FamilyLife Today\u00ae podcast and resources helped you?\u00a0 Consider becoming a Legacy Partner, a monthly supporter of FamilyLife.\u00a0https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/legacy<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Adam Griffin coaches parents on what it means to disciple their children. 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Adam Griffin says we ought to rethink that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> One thing that we should talk about that\u2019s really, really important in family discipleship is we are trying to raise kids that are very used to being different, when you\u2019re trying to raise a Christian kid; because our culture is increasingly secular. One of the most important things for us to remember to raise a Christian right now\u2014is not to raise a kid that\u2019s ready to be the most popular kid in school\u2014[they\u2019re] ready to stand up for what\u2019s right, even when nobody else wants to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, November 4<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. How can we raise kids who fit in and yet still stand up for their faith at the same time? We\u2019ll talk more about that today with Adam Griffin. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We need to do this again. A few years ago at our church, we got together three couples, who are now empty nesters. We had an evening where they shared with the parents in our church what they would do differently if they were parenting again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Great topic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You get parents together and ask them, \u201cTell us about your parenting\u201d; and most of those parents can go, \u201cHere are the mistakes we made\u2026\u201d\u2014right? We overlook some of the victories. We\u2019re aware of the fact of things we wish could have done differently. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut these empty nesters had a lot of great insight into some of the very practical things that they were doing. These younger parents were <em>eating it up<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m sitting, right now, beside an empty nester named Bob Lepine. Bob and Mary Ann: what would you share?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think we\u2019d go back to some of those things we wish we\u2019d done differently. We talked this week about trying to model goodness and forgetting that we needed to show our kids that we\u2019re fellow strugglers and that we mess up and confession\/repentance. I remember a guest on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, who said every discipline encounter he has with his child, his goal is to have that child love Jesus more at the end of that discipline encounter. I thought, \u201cThat\u2019s not what I was thinking when I was disciplining my kids.\u201d [Laughter] I thought, \u201cMy goal was to get you to straighten up and make my life easier!\u201d\u2014right? It would be those kinds of learnings, where I would go back and say, \u201cYes; if I had a do-over, I\u2019d do some things differently.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I\u2019m thinking we\u2019ve got a lot of young parents, who are listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, who would <em>love<\/em> some coaching. And we have a great <em>coach<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We do have a good coach.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Thanks, Bob; I appreciate that! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014who is joining us this week on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. I\u2019m talking about Adam Griffin joining us. Welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> Thanks for having me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Adam is a pastor from east Dallas. He and his wife have been married for ten years; they\u2019ve got three sons at home. He has written a book, together with Matt Chandler, called <em>Family Discipleship.<\/em> In reading the book, I was impressed with the fact that this is something that\u2014you\u2019ve moved from the abstract ideas of: \u201cWe need to be about these important topics,\u201d\u2014into some of the very practical: \u201cHere\u2019s how we\u2019re trying to live this out in our home.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you were sitting down with a couple, and they told you, \u201cOur baby\u2019s going to be born next month,\u201d and \u201cWe want your coaching tips on what we should do in the early years; and then, what we should start getting ready for as our kids get older,\u201d where would you start with them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> That\u2019s a great question. The congregation that I pastor is very young. We actually have <em>that<\/em> question a lot. It\u2019s a lot of people having kids for the first time and thinking, \u201cWhat does discipleship look like from day one\/from step one?\u201d One of the things you pointed out that you wanted to do over\u2014and we say that you don\u2019t actually get to do anything over\u2014there are a lot of \u201ctry agains\u201d\u2014there are a lot of: \u201cI\u2019m going to try again. I may not be able to do yesterday over again, but I\u2019m going to try again.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s true from day one of parenting. It\u2019s really easy to find things you regret or wish you had done different. But for every one of us, we can come up with an example of what it would look like in each one of <em>our<\/em> families, whether it\u2019s around this table or around your church. It\u2019s going to be different for every family. The struggle was, when writing a book, I didn\u2019t want to write a book that says, \u201cHere\u2019s what it looks like for the Griffins and the Chandlers.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cHere\u2019s the formula...\u201d \u201cFollow the recipe, and your kids will turn out great.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> Yes; \u201cJust do it like us.\u201d We have some general categories and then, hopefully, some helpful examples that say: \u201cIt doesn\u2019t have to look just like the Griffins; it could look more generally like the Griffins.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll give you an example. Where I live\u2014I live in a neighborhood that is very diverse\u2014and there is a lot of refugees\/a lot of people, who have moved here from another country\/escaped something horrific\u2014and now they\u2019re trying to learn a new culture. For me, the general principle might be: \u201cInvite your kids into how you want to demonstrate biblical hospitality.\u201d The specific example might be: \u201cIn the Griffin family, we try to do our best to welcome those families that are new to our neighborhood\u2014understanding that they\u2019re refugees and new to the culture\u2014to let them know: \u2018If there\u2019s anything you need help translating\u2026\u2019 \u2018If there\u2019s anything, navigating in the city ordinances or in the city\u2026\u2019 or \u2018As you need help finding a job or getting resources\u2026\u2019\u2014that\u2019s why we\u2019re here.\u201d Without turning other people into a charity, helping our kids understand, \u201cThis is how we make <em>friends<\/em>. This is how adults make friends. We don\u2019t do it like you do it; we do it like <em>this<\/em>. This is how we love our neighbor.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe general principle will be: \u201cFamilies, invite your kids into how you love your neighbor.\u201d Kids wait for the bus in front of our home, and this is how we\u2019ve met our refugee neighbors\u2014is as their teenagers and their kids are waiting for the bus, we decided: \u201cHey, they\u2019re literally coming to us; they\u2019re in our front yard. Why don\u2019t we just go out and offer them something to eat?\u201d\u2014taking donuts, strike up conversations, and then leverage those into opportunities to share the gospel. That\u2019s the driving force behind it\u2014not to create some version, where our kids will just witness it\u2014but we invite our kids; because we want them to grow up, where it\u2019s very normal for them to see their parents evangelizing and discipling. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBeing exposed to other cultures has been very good for our kids as well; in fact, one thing that we should talk about that\u2019s really, really important in family discipleship is we are trying to raise kids that are very used to being different, when you\u2019re trying to raise a Christian kid; because our culture is increasingly secular. One of the most important things for us to remember is to raise a Christian right now is\u2014not to raise a kid that\u2019s ready to be the most popular kid in school\u2014[they\u2019re] ready to stand up for what\u2019s right, even when nobody else wants to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Walk us through that conversation, Adam. What does that sound like as you\u2019re talking to your kids?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> Even this week\u2014I\u2019ll give you a very present example\u2014we were talking through the story of Zacchaeus in our family discipleship time before I put them to bed. The story of Zacchaeus is a wee little man who comes to know the Lord, even though the entire crowd thought it was a bad idea for Jesus to go to his house. What we talk about is: \u201cIs it always accepted by the crowd to follow Jesus?\u201d or \u201cDoes Jesus always do what the crowd thinks is right?\u201d They were like, \u201cNo, it\u2019s not.\u201d The language we\u2019ve been using in our house is: \u201cDid you know that following Jesus will sometimes make you weird?\u2014and sometimes make you different? It doesn\u2019t mean that it\u2019s not right; it\u2019s actually righteously abnormal,\u201d\u2014is the words we use in the book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want them to be prepared to stand up for what\u2019s right, even when nobody thinks it\u2019s a good idea. That\u2019s because we believe, scripturally, God says, \u201cIf you follow Me, people in this world are going to hate you.\u201d If I\u2019m not preparing my kids to be hated by the world, then I\u2019m going to send them out into a world that is very different than what is the reality. The reality is that this world\u2014it\u2019s sensitivities\u2014are offended by many of the things that I believe. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want my kids ready to be strong\u2014not that they would be intentionally irritating to the world\u2014but that they be ready to believe what\u2019s true, even if it does irritate their friends or the people around them. That\u2019s very different than my parenting instincts that say: \u201cBe universally loved by your kids and those around you,\u201d and \u201cCreate kids that are universally loved by their teachers, and those around them, and their peers.\u201d Instead, I\u2019m saying, \u201cPrepare kids to universally love God, no matter what\u2014no matter what their friends think\/ no matter what their teachers think.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>It\u2019s easy today to become so consumed with school\/so consumed with sports; we go to church on Sunday. I think a lot of parents feel overwhelmed by homework, and COVID, and you\u2019re doing school online\u2014they feel overwhelmed. Now they\u2019re thinking, \u201cOh, great. Now I have to have a ministry too?\u2014and my kids have to see me?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> I think every parent will relate to that\u2014every important thing in this kid\u2019s life. \u201cAre we saying that, now Adam, you\u2019re going to add something else important to this? We\u2019re already stressed enough.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tActually, what we\u2019re saying is: \u201cLet\u2019s not do the disservice of pretending those things are more important than leading your kids toward eternity\u201d: so we\u2019ll add it to the list and go, \u201cOh. I\u2019ve also got to do a family devotion.\u201d It\u2019s like: \u201cNo, no, no! If you don\u2019t have time for this, then you don\u2019t actually have time for al the sports and activities. This is <em>so much<\/em> more important. The spiritual leadership of your home is the priority the Bible puts on your family, but <em>we<\/em> make it one of a list of priorities.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe tried to write this book in a way to really communicate: \u201cThis is not to stress you out with one more thing. This is to help you understand the truth of all the things you\u2019re doing.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I think a lot of guys maybe are like me. I coach high school football\u2014you put a defense in front of me\u2014as an old quarterback, I can tell you where to attack it. I walk in my house\u2014and my wife says, \u201cCan you lead us spiritually?\u201d\u2014I\u2019m like, \u201cUh, what\u2019s that look like? I know what a Cover 2 looks like, and I know how to throw a seam route down the middle and look the\u2026\u201d \u201cI\u2019m supposed to\u2014what? How do I do it? I don\u2019t feel equipped; I\u2019ve never been trained. I\u2019ve been trained in these other areas; I know how to get a sales job done. But lead my family and create disciples\u2014that\u2019s the pastor\u2019s job; that\u2019s the church\u2019s job\u2014that ain\u2019t my job,\u201d or \u201cThat\u2019s my wife\u2019s job,\u201d\u2014what do you say to that parent?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s the purpose of the book we wrote\/was to say: \u201cThere are a lot of families out there who didn\u2019t grow up in a home that discipled them. There are a lot of families out there, who are going, \u2018I\u2019ve got all these resources: I\u2019ve got a kids\u2019 Bible, and I\u2019ve got kids\u2019 music, and I\u2019ve got kids\u2019 storybooks. But how is this part of a plan? What am I supposed to do with this? Is this occasional? Is it sporadic? Is it every day? Is it all day? What if my kids don\u2019t seem like they\u2019re jiving with it?\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe book is to help\u2014no matter what your family looks like\/no matter how it\u2019s made up\u2014to be able to sit down and get on the same page with your spouse, or your church, or your community with: \u201cWhat can a very simple plan, that\u2019s engrained in what our life already looks like, how can a plan like that happen in a way that\u2019s not going to stress me out or overwhelm me?\u201d and \u201cIt\u2019s going to help me see the permission\/the empowerment of the Holy Spirit in it; and at the same time, not minimize the importance of it\u2014to make it something that, where, \u2018Every once in awhile we\u2019ll think about that.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is something that we are perfectly capable of doing, not of our own strength or will, but because of the God we follow. God has made this a priority; therefore, we know God has empowered His people for it\u2014not to do it without Him\u2014but to do in and through Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> In one section of the book, you actually model for us what you do at night. I\u2019m a guy [rough voice]: \u201cJust tell me what to do; just tell me what to do.\u201d [Laughter] You walk through bedtime. Walk us through bedtime.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> We have a very simple rhythm. Often, it\u2019s just: we read Scripture; we share; we sing; and there\u2019s prayer. That\u2019s very, very simple. Our kids\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Okay; I got to tell you\u2014some guys just went, \u201cOh, boy. That\u2019s too much: we sing; we pray\u2026\u201d But I\u2019m guessing it\u2019s just pretty simple; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> It is very simple. We sing a very simple song that we sing at church, which is a benediction or a doxology. I\u2019ll tell you\u2014of the people, without busting my wife out\u2014of the two people in my marriage, one of us is not a great singer. [Laughter] Can I say that? It\u2019s still <em>great<\/em>; it\u2019s still a chance for us to sing with our kids. It\u2019s not goofy; it\u2019s not strange. Singing is something the Lord has called us to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNot every family is going to sing\u2014not every family is getting out the bongos and the guitar and worshipping together\u2014although for some people, that is <em>it<\/em> for them; they love that. Maybe they\u2019re putting in the music; they\u2019re listening to it; they\u2019re focusing and meditating. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s <em>not<\/em> my family. My family is: we\u2019re going to read a very short Scripture or story. Often, it\u2019s a parable or a narrative from the Bible. Then, we\u2019re going to ask a couple questions about it\u2014like: \u201cDo you see what I see here?\u201d or \u201cWhat do you see from it?\u201d The older our kids get, the more complicated those questions can be, and the more vulnerable and honest I am with my own struggles. Then, we\u2019re going to sing something\u2014almost: \u201cAs we conclude our time together, let\u2019s remind ourselves to align our hearts around the Lord\u201d; and then we pray together. As our kids get older, we invite <em>them<\/em> to pray or ask each other what they can pray for. They share those things with each other. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Do you put your hands in a little huddle?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> We often do. We\u2019ll hold hands while we sing, and then we\u2019ll put our hands in the middle while we pray. It\u2019s a <em>physical<\/em> ritual that helps <em>focus<\/em>. My kids\u2014like the way you described your three boys\u2014they can be all over the place. But if we do something like, \u201cHey, all the Griffins are going to put our hands in the middle. At the end of the prayer, when we say, \u2018Amen,\u2019 it\u2019s going to be almost like we\u2019re breaking the huddle.\u201d It is a sweet treat for <em>my<\/em> family, and it helps them focus. It feels like we\u2019re doing something together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>You just modeled the Griffin family. I\u2019m guessing the Lepines didn\u2019t look that way\/the Wilsons. You can\/it\u2019s almost like we can step back and go: \u201cWhat\u2019s ours going to look like?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam: <\/strong>yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: \u201c<\/strong>Are we going to sing?\u201d \u201cNo! We\u2019re not singing!\u201d [Laughter] \u201cOkay; what are we going to do instead?\u201d\u2014what is going to be a Wilson thing or a Lepine thing that makes disciples our unique way? That\u2019s fun to think about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> That\u2019s what I\u2019m saying\u2014is that the time, moments, and milestones are going to look different for everybody\u2014but the framework itself can work for everyone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re saying there should be some time set aside\u2014we\u2019re saying, \u201cThis is time where our family is just thinking about the Lord.\u201d There should be times where we are taking advantage of things throughout the day. And then there are milestones that we are aiming at\u2014pointing toward\/celebrating\u2014when the Lord does something really significant. \u201cHow do we incorporate those three aspects of the framework into how we disciple our kids?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You have life verses for your kids?\u2014you incorporate that into bedtime somehow?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> Yes, absolutely. As we put them to bed\u2014I\u2019ve talked to some friends about this too\u2014it\u2019s one of my favorite things. Some of my friends have written some original blessings for their kids\u2014like, \u201cI\u2019m so proud of you. I love you. These are things I see in you\u2026\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat we\u2019ve done for each one of our kids is\u2014for each one of our kids, we\u2019ve chosen a verse from the Bible that we will share with them every night as we put them to bed. As they\u2019ve gotten older, it\u2019s the first verse that they memorized; now they can say it back to us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor each one of our kids: for Oscar, it\u2019s from Corinthians; we say, \u201cBe on the alert. Stand firm in the faith. Act like a man and be strong. Let everything you do be done in love.\u201d It\u2019s a great blessing verse. Also, when we incorporate it into discipline, we\u2019ll say, \u201cRemember how, at night, we\u2019ll say to you, \u2018Let everything you do be done in love\u2019? Walk me through what just happened. Do you feel like what\u2019s going on in your life right now is living up to this principle we want to live to, that everything we do is done in love?\u201d The same thing for my other boys with their verses.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How did you pick the verses for your sons?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> Honestly, my wife and I had a conversation, where we said: \u201cWhat verses stick out to us from the Bible that would be something we really hope would be true for our sons?\u201d or \u201cWhat situationally happens in the Bible that we hope we get to repeat in this one?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor my son, Gus\/my second born, we chose the last words of David to his son, Solomon, where he says\/basically, he says, \u201cBe a man and follow God.\u201d That\u2019s what we wanted for him. Then, for my son, Theodore\/our third born\u2014it was a little bit more like, \u201cThere is so much in the Bible that is so good, and we want him to remember.\u201d We settled on Micah 6:8 to give him something clear that was a summary to say: \u201cWe want you to be all about justice, and mercy, and walking humbly with your God.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHopefully, as they get older, they can appreciate the greater depth; but right now, it\u2019s just words they remember. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I remember talking to a mom and dad, who would change that every year on the child\u2019s birthday. They\u2019d come up with a verse for the year that was going to be their focus verse. Again, that kind of a regular rhythm\u2014you can have a life verse\u2014but if there are yearly verses, as the kids are growing and in new chapters and in new phases that you can incorporate in\u2014that\u2019s a great way to keep planting God\u2019s Word in the life of the child and keep reinforcing spiritual principles.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m thinking of the dad or the mom listening that are, right now, feeling like they blew it\u2014maybe their kids are teenagers, maybe they\u2019re older, maybe they\u2019re even still young\u2014but they\u2019re listening, going, \u201cBoy. I haven\u2019t done any of this.\u201d What do you say to them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> One, I\u2019d say, \u201cIt\u2019s never too late to start.\u201d One of the best first steps you can take with kids\u2014is to have what we\u2019ve bounced around a lot\u2014is a repentance talk. If you need to sit down with your growing or grown kids\u2014and first ask for forgiveness, saying, \u201cI wish our family had been different. There are some things I wish I would\u2019ve done more. There are some things I wish I wouldn\u2019t have done at all,\u201d\u2014ask for forgiveness\/to say, \u201cMom\u201d or \u201cDad didn\u2019t lead you the way we wanted.\u201d Just ask for forgiveness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then help your kids take ownership on what you want to do going forward: say, \u201cI want to spend more time in the Word together. Is there any way that you have in your mind that you think our family could do that well? Is there a time we have in our week? Is there a meal, or is there a commute, or is there a cross points that our family already has, where we could say, \u2018Let\u2019s dedicate some of that time to the Lord\u2019? If it\u2019s a drive to or from church; or maybe it\u2019s, once a week, could I take you out for breakfast?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSomebody told me they had <em>so many<\/em> kids; they\u2019re like, \u201cHow can I, with the number of kids I have, possibly get involved each kid\u2019s life?\u201d One of the ideas that came from a family with a lot of kids\u2014again, there\u2019s so many things you could do\u2014they said that every month, on the day of the month, that\u2019s the same as their birthday day\u2014so if they were born on the fifth of August, then it\u2019s the fifth day of every month\u2014they spend a little extra time with that one kid. It might be: if they\u2019re older now, maybe write a letter or a text to that one kid to say: \u201cIt\u2019s the fifth of the month. I just want you to know today\u2019s your day of the month. I\u2019m thinking about you; I\u2019m praying for you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf they\u2019re in their home, maybe they stay up a little bit later with that kid; but they give that child a little bit extra focus. Again, it\u2019s taking the time, like you would in your workplace\/like you would in any relationship to say, \u201cI\u2019m going to spend a little bit of time thinking about this, and planning it, and giving it some intentionality.\u201d We\u2019d do that with almost anything else, but we expect parenting to come to us naturally. The fact that we struggle with it\u2014we beat ourselves up over it\u2014instead of going, \u201cThis is hard for everybody.\u201d The universal truth is that: \u201cIt is <em>really<\/em> hard to be a parent.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other universal truth is that: \u201cIt\u2019s <em>really<\/em> hard to be a kid.\u201d If we can give each other some grace there, to say: \u201cAll of us make mistakes. That\u2019s why we have a perfect Savior, who is so willing to forgive, and calls us to something important\u2014and doesn\u2019t say, \u2018Don\u2019t try; don\u2019t bother,\u2019\u2014no; He says, \u2018I\u2019m the One who\u2019s going to save kids, but I\u2019m inviting you into how I do it.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat a grace that we could, with full encouragement and confidence, walk forward\u2014knowing that we\u2019ve made so many mistakes; knowing that other people around us might judge us, honestly, for what we\u2019re trying to do now or what we should have done earlier\u2014however the judgmental world wants to operate here, I can still walk forward in confidence, knowing who I was does not have to be who I\u2019m going to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe family the Lord\u2019s given me\u2014even if that child is prodigal\u2014I know that the Father <em>loves<\/em> to save people. There\u2019s no such thing as a hopeless cause for the gospel. I see that over and over again in Scripture that He\u2014like the father waiting for the prodigal\u2014is so eager to be compassionate. I can be like that, too, as I try to imitate my heavenly Father. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I would add this, as I\u2019m listening. We talked about the parents\u2019 side. The kids\u2019 side\u2014if you\u2019re sitting, listening\/thinking, \u201cBoy, I never got this. I wish I had even ten percent of what I\u2019ve heard today,\u201d\u2014I would say to the child: maybe you\u2019re 20\/30; maybe you\u2019re a new parent\u2014\u201cIt\u2019s time to forgive your parents. It\u2019s a hard thing to let go of that. Forgive them; get on\/become the parent maybe they weren\u2019t.\u201d That was my mission: \u201cI\u2019m going to be the dad I never had.\u201d At some point, I had to forgive my dad for <em>failing<\/em> in this area. That was okay; that was a step of freedom to become the man God called me to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam: <\/strong>Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Do I understand that you\u2019ve got some signage\/some Griffin family signage up at your house? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> \u2014Signage. [Laughter] We have a mission statement that we\u2019ve posted in the hallway of our home. Again, for some families, they\u2019d be like, \u201cThat\u2019s hokey.\u201d For us, I\u2019m like, \u201cMan, my kids\/two-thirds of my kids can\u2019t even read yet; so don\u2019t even image that\/it\u2019s not like they\u2019re walking out every day and reciting it, either.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe thought we should, in order to create a family discipleship culture in our home, we wanted to summarize who we\u2019re going to be and how we make decisions as a family. For us, one of the aspects of our mission statement that helps us make decisions is that it\u2019s: \u201cTo know God, to make Him known, and to honor Him in all that we do.\u201d If you take the bus stop, for instance; we say: \u201cThere are kids meeting in front of our house. If our job is to know God, to make Him known, and to honor Him in all that we do, what could we do?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWould it be to say, \u201cNot in my backyard; I\u2019m going to call the city about this,\u201d\u2014or would it be to say\u2014\u201cHey, the Lord has brought these people to us; they\u2019re right in front of us. What does it look like to make Him known?\u201d and \u201cDoes it honor God to bring them donuts?\u201d\u2014I would say, \u201cOne hundred percent yes!\u201d [Laughter] Maybe my gluten-free brothers and sisters might not agree with that\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but I would say, \u201cYes; this is what the Lord\u2019s done for us.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt also helps us decide what we\u2019re going to expose our kids to\u2014what they\u2019re going to watch\/what they\u2019ll listen to\u2014is based on: \u201cDoes it honor the Lord? Does it honor the Lord when we do these things?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think that one simple idea\u2014of having a family mission statement and saying, \u201cWhat are we going to be all about as a family?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou [Dave] had a family mission statement; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; we did. We don\u2019t have time to get into it, but it\u2019s been a discussion with our sons. It\u2019s really important for the parents to know it, not always for the kids\u2014as long as you know\u2014because most parents don\u2019t even know: \u201cWhat are we shooting at?\u201d That family mission statement gives it to you. I think there\u2019s a balance of letting them in on it and sometimes just knowing, as parents, \u201cThat\u2019s the goal.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It comes back to the word we talked about\u2014intentionality\/purposefulness\u2014it\u2019s: \u201cWhere are we going? Do we have a plan?\u201d \u201cIf we\u2019re trying to drive somewhere, as parents, do we know where we\u2019re trying to get to?\u201d\u2014right? To have a map and say: \u201cHere\u2019s where we\u2019re going\u2026\u201d \u201cHere\u2019s what matters\u2026\u201d \u201cThis is what\u2019s going to be important to us. These are what our values are\u2026\u201d That goes a long way for moms and dads to have family discipleship happening in your home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAdam, thank you for the time. Thanks for the wisdom. I appreciate the book and all you and Matt have poured into this for moms and dads, like us, to benefit from. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> It\u2019s really been my pleasure. Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I want to encourage our listeners\u2014we\u2019re making Adam and Matt\u2019s book available this week if you\u2019re able to support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> with a donation. Just ask for the book as our thank-you gift to you in exchange for your support. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to donate, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Make sure you let us know you\u2019d like a copy of the book, <em>Family Discipleship<\/em>; we\u2019re happy to send it to you. We\u2019re grateful for your ongoing support of this ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, we are especially grateful for that support in this particular season. David Robbins, who is the president of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, is here with us. David, it\u2019s been a challenging season for our ministry\/for a lot of families\u2014a lot of us wondering, \u201cWhen is life going to get back to normal?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> Yes; we project and we hope: \u201cMan, after the election, it\u2019ll be back to normal,\u201d \u201cAfter the year ends, it\u2019s be back to normal.\u201d What\u2019s true is that this is a type of wilderness season. There\u2019s <em>all<\/em> sorts of things in the Scripture around wilderness seasons and how it shapes us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLike many of you, we, at FamilyLife\/we\u2019re feeling the effects of COVID and everything going on in 2020. Many of our outreaches have been drastically shifted. But we are so grateful to our faithful financial supporters, who make sure we are able to continue to produce new content that meets people right where they are and helps with the needs that are surfacing during this unique time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI got a message from a listener, who was impacted by some of our COVID outreaches that we\u2019ve been doing. He said, \u201cThank you so much for all of the content your ministry is putting out during this pandemic and this unique season. It has been such a tremendous blessing to me, helping to shepherd my two young children through this; helping me and my wife in our marriage; and helping me walk with a dear friend, who is not a believer, and his father suffered through COVID and passed away.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, this <em>is<\/em> a wilderness season for many of us; and yet, God shapes us in it. We are here for you, and we\u2019re so <em>thankful<\/em> for how our financial partners have been here for us also.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, indeed we are, David. Thank you for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI hope our listeners can be with us, again, tomorrow. We\u2019re going to talk about how grandparents can be more actively involved in helping to equip and disciple their grandchildren. Josh and Jen Mulvihill are going to join us for that conversation. We hope you can join us as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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Griffin coaches parents on what it means to disciple their children. Griffin shares how his family opens their home for hospitality as a way to evangelize their neighbors.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylife.com\/fl2020-11-04.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>All of us, as parents, want our kids to fit in; right? Adam Griffin says we ought to rethink that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> One thing that we should talk about that\u2019s really, really important in family discipleship is we are trying to raise kids that are very used to being different, when you\u2019re trying to raise a Christian kid; because our culture is increasingly secular. One of the most important things for us to remember to raise a Christian right now\u2014is not to raise a kid that\u2019s ready to be the most popular kid in school\u2014[they\u2019re] ready to stand up for what\u2019s right, even when nobody else wants to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, November 4<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. How can we raise kids who fit in and yet still stand up for their faith at the same time? We\u2019ll talk more about that today with Adam Griffin. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We need to do this again. A few years ago at our church, we got together three couples, who are now empty nesters. We had an evening where they shared with the parents in our church what they would do differently if they were parenting again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Great topic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You get parents together and ask them, \u201cTell us about your parenting\u201d; and most of those parents can go, \u201cHere are the mistakes we made\u2026\u201d\u2014right? We overlook some of the victories. We\u2019re aware of the fact of things we wish could have done differently. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut these empty nesters had a lot of great insight into some of the very practical things that they were doing. These younger parents were <em>eating it up<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m sitting, right now, beside an empty nester named Bob Lepine. Bob and Mary Ann: what would you share?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think we\u2019d go back to some of those things we wish we\u2019d done differently. We talked this week about trying to model goodness and forgetting that we needed to show our kids that we\u2019re fellow strugglers and that we mess up and confession\/repentance. I remember a guest on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, who said every discipline encounter he has with his child, his goal is to have that child love Jesus more at the end of that discipline encounter. I thought, \u201cThat\u2019s not what I was thinking when I was disciplining my kids.\u201d [Laughter] I thought, \u201cMy goal was to get you to straighten up and make my life easier!\u201d\u2014right? It would be those kinds of learnings, where I would go back and say, \u201cYes; if I had a do-over, I\u2019d do some things differently.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0I\u2019m thinking we\u2019ve got a lot of young parents, who are listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, who would <em>love<\/em> some coaching. And we have a great <em>coach<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We do have a good coach.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Thanks, Bob; I appreciate that! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014who is joining us this week on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. I\u2019m talking about Adam Griffin joining us. Welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> Thanks for having me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Adam is a pastor from east Dallas. He and his wife have been married for ten years; they\u2019ve got three sons at home. He has written a book, together with Matt Chandler, called <em>Family Discipleship.<\/em> In reading the book, I was impressed with the fact that this is something that\u2014you\u2019ve moved from the abstract ideas of: \u201cWe need to be about these important topics,\u201d\u2014into some of the very practical: \u201cHere\u2019s how we\u2019re trying to live this out in our home.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you were sitting down with a couple, and they told you, \u201cOur baby\u2019s going to be born next month,\u201d and \u201cWe want your coaching tips on what we should do in the early years; and then, what we should start getting ready for as our kids get older,\u201d where would you start with them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> That\u2019s a great question. The congregation that I pastor is very young. We actually have <em>that<\/em> question a lot. It\u2019s a lot of people having kids for the first time and thinking, \u201cWhat does discipleship look like from day one\/from step one?\u201d One of the things you pointed out that you wanted to do over\u2014and we say that you don\u2019t actually get to do anything over\u2014there are a lot of \u201ctry agains\u201d\u2014there are a lot of: \u201cI\u2019m going to try again. I may not be able to do yesterday over again, but I\u2019m going to try again.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s true from day one of parenting. It\u2019s really easy to find things you regret or wish you had done different. But for every one of us, we can come up with an example of what it would look like in each one of <em>our<\/em> families, whether it\u2019s around this table or around your church. It\u2019s going to be different for every family. The struggle was, when writing a book, I didn\u2019t want to write a book that says, \u201cHere\u2019s what it looks like for the Griffins and the Chandlers.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cHere\u2019s the formula...\u201d \u201cFollow the recipe, and your kids will turn out great.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> Yes; \u201cJust do it like us.\u201d We have some general categories and then, hopefully, some helpful examples that say: \u201cIt doesn\u2019t have to look just like the Griffins; it could look more generally like the Griffins.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ll give you an example. Where I live\u2014I live in a neighborhood that is very diverse\u2014and there is a lot of refugees\/a lot of people, who have moved here from another country\/escaped something horrific\u2014and now they\u2019re trying to learn a new culture. For me, the general principle might be: \u201cInvite your kids into how you want to demonstrate biblical hospitality.\u201d The specific example might be: \u201cIn the Griffin family, we try to do our best to welcome those families that are new to our neighborhood\u2014understanding that they\u2019re refugees and new to the culture\u2014to let them know: \u2018If there\u2019s anything you need help translating\u2026\u2019 \u2018If there\u2019s anything, navigating in the city ordinances or in the city\u2026\u2019 or \u2018As you need help finding a job or getting resources\u2026\u2019\u2014that\u2019s why we\u2019re here.\u201d Without turning other people into a charity, helping our kids understand, \u201cThis is how we make <em>friends<\/em>. This is how adults make friends. We don\u2019t do it like you do it; we do it like <em>this<\/em>. This is how we love our neighbor.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe general principle will be: \u201cFamilies, invite your kids into how you love your neighbor.\u201d Kids wait for the bus in front of our home, and this is how we\u2019ve met our refugee neighbors\u2014is as their teenagers and their kids are waiting for the bus, we decided: \u201cHey, they\u2019re literally coming to us; they\u2019re in our front yard. Why don\u2019t we just go out and offer them something to eat?\u201d\u2014taking donuts, strike up conversations, and then leverage those into opportunities to share the gospel. That\u2019s the driving force behind it\u2014not to create some version, where our kids will just witness it\u2014but we invite our kids; because we want them to grow up, where it\u2019s very normal for them to see their parents evangelizing and discipling. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBeing exposed to other cultures has been very good for our kids as well; in fact, one thing that we should talk about that\u2019s really, really important in family discipleship is we are trying to raise kids that are very used to being different, when you\u2019re trying to raise a Christian kid; because our culture is increasingly secular. One of the most important things for us to remember is to raise a Christian right now is\u2014not to raise a kid that\u2019s ready to be the most popular kid in school\u2014[they\u2019re] ready to stand up for what\u2019s right, even when nobody else wants to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Walk us through that conversation, Adam. What does that sound like as you\u2019re talking to your kids?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> Even this week\u2014I\u2019ll give you a very present example\u2014we were talking through the story of Zacchaeus in our family discipleship time before I put them to bed. The story of Zacchaeus is a wee little man who comes to know the Lord, even though the entire crowd thought it was a bad idea for Jesus to go to his house. What we talk about is: \u201cIs it always accepted by the crowd to follow Jesus?\u201d or \u201cDoes Jesus always do what the crowd thinks is right?\u201d They were like, \u201cNo, it\u2019s not.\u201d The language we\u2019ve been using in our house is: \u201cDid you know that following Jesus will sometimes make you weird?\u2014and sometimes make you different? It doesn\u2019t mean that it\u2019s not right; it\u2019s actually righteously abnormal,\u201d\u2014is the words we use in the book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want them to be prepared to stand up for what\u2019s right, even when nobody thinks it\u2019s a good idea. That\u2019s because we believe, scripturally, God says, \u201cIf you follow Me, people in this world are going to hate you.\u201d If I\u2019m not preparing my kids to be hated by the world, then I\u2019m going to send them out into a world that is very different than what is the reality. The reality is that this world\u2014it\u2019s sensitivities\u2014are offended by many of the things that I believe. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want my kids ready to be strong\u2014not that they would be intentionally irritating to the world\u2014but that they be ready to believe what\u2019s true, even if it does irritate their friends or the people around them. That\u2019s very different than my parenting instincts that say: \u201cBe universally loved by your kids and those around you,\u201d and \u201cCreate kids that are universally loved by their teachers, and those around them, and their peers.\u201d Instead, I\u2019m saying, \u201cPrepare kids to universally love God, no matter what\u2014no matter what their friends think\/ no matter what their teachers think.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>It\u2019s easy today to become so consumed with school\/so consumed with sports; we go to church on Sunday. I think a lot of parents feel overwhelmed by homework, and COVID, and you\u2019re doing school online\u2014they feel overwhelmed. Now they\u2019re thinking, \u201cOh, great. Now I have to have a ministry too?\u2014and my kids have to see me?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> I think every parent will relate to that\u2014every important thing in this kid\u2019s life. \u201cAre we saying that, now Adam, you\u2019re going to add something else important to this? We\u2019re already stressed enough.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tActually, what we\u2019re saying is: \u201cLet\u2019s not do the disservice of pretending those things are more important than leading your kids toward eternity\u201d: so we\u2019ll add it to the list and go, \u201cOh. I\u2019ve also got to do a family devotion.\u201d It\u2019s like: \u201cNo, no, no! If you don\u2019t have time for this, then you don\u2019t actually have time for al the sports and activities. This is <em>so much<\/em> more important. The spiritual leadership of your home is the priority the Bible puts on your family, but <em>we<\/em> make it one of a list of priorities.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe tried to write this book in a way to really communicate: \u201cThis is not to stress you out with one more thing. This is to help you understand the truth of all the things you\u2019re doing.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I think a lot of guys maybe are like me. I coach high school football\u2014you put a defense in front of me\u2014as an old quarterback, I can tell you where to attack it. I walk in my house\u2014and my wife says, \u201cCan you lead us spiritually?\u201d\u2014I\u2019m like, \u201cUh, what\u2019s that look like? I know what a Cover 2 looks like, and I know how to throw a seam route down the middle and look the\u2026\u201d \u201cI\u2019m supposed to\u2014what? How do I do it? I don\u2019t feel equipped; I\u2019ve never been trained. I\u2019ve been trained in these other areas; I know how to get a sales job done. But lead my family and create disciples\u2014that\u2019s the pastor\u2019s job; that\u2019s the church\u2019s job\u2014that ain\u2019t my job,\u201d or \u201cThat\u2019s my wife\u2019s job,\u201d\u2014what do you say to that parent?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s the purpose of the book we wrote\/was to say: \u201cThere are a lot of families out there who didn\u2019t grow up in a home that discipled them. There are a lot of families out there, who are going, \u2018I\u2019ve got all these resources: I\u2019ve got a kids\u2019 Bible, and I\u2019ve got kids\u2019 music, and I\u2019ve got kids\u2019 storybooks. But how is this part of a plan? What am I supposed to do with this? Is this occasional? Is it sporadic? Is it every day? Is it all day? What if my kids don\u2019t seem like they\u2019re jiving with it?\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe book is to help\u2014no matter what your family looks like\/no matter how it\u2019s made up\u2014to be able to sit down and get on the same page with your spouse, or your church, or your community with: \u201cWhat can a very simple plan, that\u2019s engrained in what our life already looks like, how can a plan like that happen in a way that\u2019s not going to stress me out or overwhelm me?\u201d and \u201cIt\u2019s going to help me see the permission\/the empowerment of the Holy Spirit in it; and at the same time, not minimize the importance of it\u2014to make it something that, where, \u2018Every once in awhile we\u2019ll think about that.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is something that we are perfectly capable of doing, not of our own strength or will, but because of the God we follow. God has made this a priority; therefore, we know God has empowered His people for it\u2014not to do it without Him\u2014but to do in and through Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> In one section of the book, you actually model for us what you do at night. I\u2019m a guy [rough voice]: \u201cJust tell me what to do; just tell me what to do.\u201d [Laughter] You walk through bedtime. Walk us through bedtime.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> We have a very simple rhythm. Often, it\u2019s just: we read Scripture; we share; we sing; and there\u2019s prayer. That\u2019s very, very simple. Our kids\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Okay; I got to tell you\u2014some guys just went, \u201cOh, boy. That\u2019s too much: we sing; we pray\u2026\u201d But I\u2019m guessing it\u2019s just pretty simple; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> It is very simple. We sing a very simple song that we sing at church, which is a benediction or a doxology. I\u2019ll tell you\u2014of the people, without busting my wife out\u2014of the two people in my marriage, one of us is not a great singer. [Laughter] Can I say that? It\u2019s still <em>great<\/em>; it\u2019s still a chance for us to sing with our kids. It\u2019s not goofy; it\u2019s not strange. Singing is something the Lord has called us to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNot every family is going to sing\u2014not every family is getting out the bongos and the guitar and worshipping together\u2014although for some people, that is <em>it<\/em> for them; they love that. Maybe they\u2019re putting in the music; they\u2019re listening to it; they\u2019re focusing and meditating. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s <em>not<\/em> my family. My family is: we\u2019re going to read a very short Scripture or story. Often, it\u2019s a parable or a narrative from the Bible. Then, we\u2019re going to ask a couple questions about it\u2014like: \u201cDo you see what I see here?\u201d or \u201cWhat do you see from it?\u201d The older our kids get, the more complicated those questions can be, and the more vulnerable and honest I am with my own struggles. Then, we\u2019re going to sing something\u2014almost: \u201cAs we conclude our time together, let\u2019s remind ourselves to align our hearts around the Lord\u201d; and then we pray together. As our kids get older, we invite <em>them<\/em> to pray or ask each other what they can pray for. They share those things with each other. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Do you put your hands in a little huddle?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> We often do. We\u2019ll hold hands while we sing, and then we\u2019ll put our hands in the middle while we pray. It\u2019s a <em>physical<\/em> ritual that helps <em>focus<\/em>. My kids\u2014like the way you described your three boys\u2014they can be all over the place. But if we do something like, \u201cHey, all the Griffins are going to put our hands in the middle. At the end of the prayer, when we say, \u2018Amen,\u2019 it\u2019s going to be almost like we\u2019re breaking the huddle.\u201d It is a sweet treat for <em>my<\/em> family, and it helps them focus. It feels like we\u2019re doing something together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>You just modeled the Griffin family. I\u2019m guessing the Lepines didn\u2019t look that way\/the Wilsons. You can\/it\u2019s almost like we can step back and go: \u201cWhat\u2019s ours going to look like?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam: <\/strong>yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: \u201c<\/strong>Are we going to sing?\u201d \u201cNo! We\u2019re not singing!\u201d [Laughter] \u201cOkay; what are we going to do instead?\u201d\u2014what is going to be a Wilson thing or a Lepine thing that makes disciples our unique way? That\u2019s fun to think about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> That\u2019s what I\u2019m saying\u2014is that the time, moments, and milestones are going to look different for everybody\u2014but the framework itself can work for everyone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re saying there should be some time set aside\u2014we\u2019re saying, \u201cThis is time where our family is just thinking about the Lord.\u201d There should be times where we are taking advantage of things throughout the day. And then there are milestones that we are aiming at\u2014pointing toward\/celebrating\u2014when the Lord does something really significant. \u201cHow do we incorporate those three aspects of the framework into how we disciple our kids?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You have life verses for your kids?\u2014you incorporate that into bedtime somehow?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> Yes, absolutely. As we put them to bed\u2014I\u2019ve talked to some friends about this too\u2014it\u2019s one of my favorite things. Some of my friends have written some original blessings for their kids\u2014like, \u201cI\u2019m so proud of you. I love you. These are things I see in you\u2026\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat we\u2019ve done for each one of our kids is\u2014for each one of our kids, we\u2019ve chosen a verse from the Bible that we will share with them every night as we put them to bed. As they\u2019ve gotten older, it\u2019s the first verse that they memorized; now they can say it back to us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor each one of our kids: for Oscar, it\u2019s from Corinthians; we say, \u201cBe on the alert. Stand firm in the faith. Act like a man and be strong. Let everything you do be done in love.\u201d It\u2019s a great blessing verse. Also, when we incorporate it into discipline, we\u2019ll say, \u201cRemember how, at night, we\u2019ll say to you, \u2018Let everything you do be done in love\u2019? Walk me through what just happened. Do you feel like what\u2019s going on in your life right now is living up to this principle we want to live to, that everything we do is done in love?\u201d The same thing for my other boys with their verses.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How did you pick the verses for your sons?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> Honestly, my wife and I had a conversation, where we said: \u201cWhat verses stick out to us from the Bible that would be something we really hope would be true for our sons?\u201d or \u201cWhat situationally happens in the Bible that we hope we get to repeat in this one?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor my son, Gus\/my second born, we chose the last words of David to his son, Solomon, where he says\/basically, he says, \u201cBe a man and follow God.\u201d That\u2019s what we wanted for him. Then, for my son, Theodore\/our third born\u2014it was a little bit more like, \u201cThere is so much in the Bible that is so good, and we want him to remember.\u201d We settled on Micah 6:8 to give him something clear that was a summary to say: \u201cWe want you to be all about justice, and mercy, and walking humbly with your God.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHopefully, as they get older, they can appreciate the greater depth; but right now, it\u2019s just words they remember. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I remember talking to a mom and dad, who would change that every year on the child\u2019s birthday. They\u2019d come up with a verse for the year that was going to be their focus verse. Again, that kind of a regular rhythm\u2014you can have a life verse\u2014but if there are yearly verses, as the kids are growing and in new chapters and in new phases that you can incorporate in\u2014that\u2019s a great way to keep planting God\u2019s Word in the life of the child and keep reinforcing spiritual principles.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m thinking of the dad or the mom listening that are, right now, feeling like they blew it\u2014maybe their kids are teenagers, maybe they\u2019re older, maybe they\u2019re even still young\u2014but they\u2019re listening, going, \u201cBoy. I haven\u2019t done any of this.\u201d What do you say to them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> One, I\u2019d say, \u201cIt\u2019s never too late to start.\u201d One of the best first steps you can take with kids\u2014is to have what we\u2019ve bounced around a lot\u2014is a repentance talk. If you need to sit down with your growing or grown kids\u2014and first ask for forgiveness, saying, \u201cI wish our family had been different. There are some things I wish I would\u2019ve done more. There are some things I wish I wouldn\u2019t have done at all,\u201d\u2014ask for forgiveness\/to say, \u201cMom\u201d or \u201cDad didn\u2019t lead you the way we wanted.\u201d Just ask for forgiveness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then help your kids take ownership on what you want to do going forward: say, \u201cI want to spend more time in the Word together. Is there any way that you have in your mind that you think our family could do that well? Is there a time we have in our week? Is there a meal, or is there a commute, or is there a cross points that our family already has, where we could say, \u2018Let\u2019s dedicate some of that time to the Lord\u2019? If it\u2019s a drive to or from church; or maybe it\u2019s, once a week, could I take you out for breakfast?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSomebody told me they had <em>so many<\/em> kids; they\u2019re like, \u201cHow can I, with the number of kids I have, possibly get involved each kid\u2019s life?\u201d One of the ideas that came from a family with a lot of kids\u2014again, there\u2019s so many things you could do\u2014they said that every month, on the day of the month, that\u2019s the same as their birthday day\u2014so if they were born on the fifth of August, then it\u2019s the fifth day of every month\u2014they spend a little extra time with that one kid. It might be: if they\u2019re older now, maybe write a letter or a text to that one kid to say: \u201cIt\u2019s the fifth of the month. I just want you to know today\u2019s your day of the month. I\u2019m thinking about you; I\u2019m praying for you.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf they\u2019re in their home, maybe they stay up a little bit later with that kid; but they give that child a little bit extra focus. Again, it\u2019s taking the time, like you would in your workplace\/like you would in any relationship to say, \u201cI\u2019m going to spend a little bit of time thinking about this, and planning it, and giving it some intentionality.\u201d We\u2019d do that with almost anything else, but we expect parenting to come to us naturally. The fact that we struggle with it\u2014we beat ourselves up over it\u2014instead of going, \u201cThis is hard for everybody.\u201d The universal truth is that: \u201cIt is <em>really<\/em> hard to be a parent.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other universal truth is that: \u201cIt\u2019s <em>really<\/em> hard to be a kid.\u201d If we can give each other some grace there, to say: \u201cAll of us make mistakes. That\u2019s why we have a perfect Savior, who is so willing to forgive, and calls us to something important\u2014and doesn\u2019t say, \u2018Don\u2019t try; don\u2019t bother,\u2019\u2014no; He says, \u2018I\u2019m the One who\u2019s going to save kids, but I\u2019m inviting you into how I do it.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat a grace that we could, with full encouragement and confidence, walk forward\u2014knowing that we\u2019ve made so many mistakes; knowing that other people around us might judge us, honestly, for what we\u2019re trying to do now or what we should have done earlier\u2014however the judgmental world wants to operate here, I can still walk forward in confidence, knowing who I was does not have to be who I\u2019m going to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe family the Lord\u2019s given me\u2014even if that child is prodigal\u2014I know that the Father <em>loves<\/em> to save people. There\u2019s no such thing as a hopeless cause for the gospel. I see that over and over again in Scripture that He\u2014like the father waiting for the prodigal\u2014is so eager to be compassionate. I can be like that, too, as I try to imitate my heavenly Father. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I would add this, as I\u2019m listening. We talked about the parents\u2019 side. The kids\u2019 side\u2014if you\u2019re sitting, listening\/thinking, \u201cBoy, I never got this. I wish I had even ten percent of what I\u2019ve heard today,\u201d\u2014I would say to the child: maybe you\u2019re 20\/30; maybe you\u2019re a new parent\u2014\u201cIt\u2019s time to forgive your parents. It\u2019s a hard thing to let go of that. Forgive them; get on\/become the parent maybe they weren\u2019t.\u201d That was my mission: \u201cI\u2019m going to be the dad I never had.\u201d At some point, I had to forgive my dad for <em>failing<\/em> in this area. That was okay; that was a step of freedom to become the man God called me to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam: <\/strong>Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Do I understand that you\u2019ve got some signage\/some Griffin family signage up at your house? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> \u2014Signage. [Laughter] We have a mission statement that we\u2019ve posted in the hallway of our home. Again, for some families, they\u2019d be like, \u201cThat\u2019s hokey.\u201d For us, I\u2019m like, \u201cMan, my kids\/two-thirds of my kids can\u2019t even read yet; so don\u2019t even image that\/it\u2019s not like they\u2019re walking out every day and reciting it, either.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe thought we should, in order to create a family discipleship culture in our home, we wanted to summarize who we\u2019re going to be and how we make decisions as a family. For us, one of the aspects of our mission statement that helps us make decisions is that it\u2019s: \u201cTo know God, to make Him known, and to honor Him in all that we do.\u201d If you take the bus stop, for instance; we say: \u201cThere are kids meeting in front of our house. If our job is to know God, to make Him known, and to honor Him in all that we do, what could we do?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWould it be to say, \u201cNot in my backyard; I\u2019m going to call the city about this,\u201d\u2014or would it be to say\u2014\u201cHey, the Lord has brought these people to us; they\u2019re right in front of us. What does it look like to make Him known?\u201d and \u201cDoes it honor God to bring them donuts?\u201d\u2014I would say, \u201cOne hundred percent yes!\u201d [Laughter] Maybe my gluten-free brothers and sisters might not agree with that\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but I would say, \u201cYes; this is what the Lord\u2019s done for us.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt also helps us decide what we\u2019re going to expose our kids to\u2014what they\u2019re going to watch\/what they\u2019ll listen to\u2014is based on: \u201cDoes it honor the Lord? Does it honor the Lord when we do these things?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think that one simple idea\u2014of having a family mission statement and saying, \u201cWhat are we going to be all about as a family?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou [Dave] had a family mission statement; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; we did. We don\u2019t have time to get into it, but it\u2019s been a discussion with our sons. It\u2019s really important for the parents to know it, not always for the kids\u2014as long as you know\u2014because most parents don\u2019t even know: \u201cWhat are we shooting at?\u201d That family mission statement gives it to you. I think there\u2019s a balance of letting them in on it and sometimes just knowing, as parents, \u201cThat\u2019s the goal.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It comes back to the word we talked about\u2014intentionality\/purposefulness\u2014it\u2019s: \u201cWhere are we going? Do we have a plan?\u201d \u201cIf we\u2019re trying to drive somewhere, as parents, do we know where we\u2019re trying to get to?\u201d\u2014right? To have a map and say: \u201cHere\u2019s where we\u2019re going\u2026\u201d \u201cHere\u2019s what matters\u2026\u201d \u201cThis is what\u2019s going to be important to us. These are what our values are\u2026\u201d That goes a long way for moms and dads to have family discipleship happening in your home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAdam, thank you for the time. Thanks for the wisdom. I appreciate the book and all you and Matt have poured into this for moms and dads, like us, to benefit from. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Adam:<\/strong> It\u2019s really been my pleasure. Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I want to encourage our listeners\u2014we\u2019re making Adam and Matt\u2019s book available this week if you\u2019re able to support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> with a donation. Just ask for the book as our thank-you gift to you in exchange for your support. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to donate, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Make sure you let us know you\u2019d like a copy of the book, <em>Family Discipleship<\/em>; we\u2019re happy to send it to you. We\u2019re grateful for your ongoing support of this ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, we are especially grateful for that support in this particular season. David Robbins, who is the president of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, is here with us. David, it\u2019s been a challenging season for our ministry\/for a lot of families\u2014a lot of us wondering, \u201cWhen is life going to get back to normal?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> Yes; we project and we hope: \u201cMan, after the election, it\u2019ll be back to normal,\u201d \u201cAfter the year ends, it\u2019s be back to normal.\u201d What\u2019s true is that this is a type of wilderness season. There\u2019s <em>all<\/em> sorts of things in the Scripture around wilderness seasons and how it shapes us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLike many of you, we, at FamilyLife\/we\u2019re feeling the effects of COVID and everything going on in 2020. Many of our outreaches have been drastically shifted. But we are so grateful to our faithful financial supporters, who make sure we are able to continue to produce new content that meets people right where they are and helps with the needs that are surfacing during this unique time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI got a message from a listener, who was impacted by some of our COVID outreaches that we\u2019ve been doing. He said, \u201cThank you so much for all of the content your ministry is putting out during this pandemic and this unique season. It has been such a tremendous blessing to me, helping to shepherd my two young children through this; helping me and my wife in our marriage; and helping me walk with a dear friend, who is not a believer, and his father suffered through COVID and passed away.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, this <em>is<\/em> a wilderness season for many of us; and yet, God shapes us in it. We are here for you, and we\u2019re so <em>thankful<\/em> for how our financial partners have been here for us also.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, indeed we are, David. Thank you for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI hope our listeners can be with us, again, tomorrow. We\u2019re going to talk about how grandparents can be more actively involved in helping to equip and disciple their grandchildren. Josh and Jen Mulvihill are going to join us for that conversation. We hope you can join us as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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