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We made ice cream, and we made friends. Grandpa did it; I did it; my uncles did it; and it was just a sweet, sweet memory.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>My grandparents\u2014Grandma and Grandpa Cross\u2014used to come every year for Christmas to our house. They would drive from Flint, Michigan, to St. Louis for Christmas. They would bring a trunk full of Verner\u2019s Ginger Ale, which we couldn\u2019t get in St. Louis; they were crossing state lines with Verner\u2019s Ginger Ale.<\/p>\n<p>Then sometime, when Grandma was there, she would spend the night with me, sleeping in bed with me. I just remember\u2014I didn\u2019t realize until I got to be older that that was a sacrifice for her! [Laughter] You know, I thought she thought that would be as much fun as me!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Squirmy grandkids!<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What about you, Nancy? Your favorite memory?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nancy:<\/strong>\u00a0Both of my sets of grandparents lived out of state. One that I remember about my Grandmother Mack\u2014they lived in Wisconsin\u2014was that she would make, at Christmas time, all sorts of Christmas cookies and decorate them up just unbelievably. Then she would get a coat box, and she would send\u00a0<em>all <\/em>of those awesome decorated cookies to us. Then, in my family, there were all girls\u2014there were four girls. She would also send us a doll and all of the doll clothes that she had made for them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Wow!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nancy:<\/strong>\u00a0So that was always <em>awesome<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>My other grandparents were a lot older. I just always remember my grandfather\u2014I just remember him\u2014being so much shorter than my grandmother. After dinner, we would always walk around the block. It was just so sweet and tender, how he would just walk with me around the block, and we would just look at everything that God had created.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s what made it so neat\u2014we would just talk about whatever he wanted to talk about or whatever I wanted to talk about. I would always go there for two weeks in the summer to visit them. To this day, I still think about that. I remember one time even going to visit in the town where he was, so I could ride around in the car in that block.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0\u2014to kind of retrace the steps.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nancy:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes! It was just such a warm feeling.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0So Mary, what about you? What\u2019s your favorite memory?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, I actually remember my grandmother, Nana. We spent a lot of time with her. One of my favorite things was making houses out of cardboard. She\u2019d give us big Sears<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u00a0catalogs, and we\u2019d pull them out and cut out furniture. We\u2019d make doll houses, and dolls, and everything. I just remember that being a whole lot of fun. And she was always there; it seemed like Nana was always available. I spent a lot of time with Nana and had a wonderful relationship with her.<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong>\u00a0Oh, listening to those sweet ladies almost makes me think of the sweet southern grandmother: you know, she\u2019s part Ann Landers\/she gives all that great advice and wisdom; part Flannery O\u2019Connor, and tells those wonderful stories. Oh, wait! We have to throw in someone who\u2019s going to cook for us, too, right? Because that\u2019s what grandmas do! They make the best food!<\/p>\n<p>By the way, the voices that you heard were Mary Larmoyeux, who is an author, and also Nancy Downing, who is a special education teacher. In a little bit, we\u2019re going to hear more from them. They\u2019re actually going to give some practical advice on how to be the best grandparent you possibly can be.<\/p>\n<p>But before that, I want to answer the question: \u201cWhat does it mean to be a grandparent?\u201d You might not realize this, but God gave instructions in the Bible, even for grandparents; yes, He did.<\/p>\n<p>Josh Mulvihill is director of the Legacy Coalition. It\u2019s a ministry that equips grandparents to pass their faith to future generations. You can bet that he has spent some time studying the Bible on what it means. According to Josh\u2014well, and according to the Bible, so according to God\u2014grandparents have a pretty big job. It really boils down to one word; here he is.<\/p>\n<p>[Previous\u00a0<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u00a0Broadcast]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0I wanted to get down to one word from the Bible that you could define the role of a grandparent; because I think we can do that with a husband, a wife, and a child in Scripture; but what is that one word? That was part of my PhD dissertation\u2014was to find that one word. I spent a <em>year<\/em> studying Scripture, cover to cover\u2014hundreds of pages of text\u2014you know, writing down everything I found.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Okay! Okay!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0Are you ready for the word?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0We\u2019re waiting.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0We need a little drumroll here. [Drumroll sound]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Here we go!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, the word is \u201cheritage.\u201d We use the word, \u201clegacy,\u201d but this is a word seen in\u00a0Proverbs 13:22: \u201cA good man passes on an inheritance to his children\u2019s children.\u201d I think that has many applications: financial would be looked at, obviously; but I think spiritual is in there; a good name\/a good reputation is part of that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0We see [Psalm 127:3]: \u201cChildren are a heritage from the Lord,\u201d and I think that applies to grandchildren as well. In our Psalm 78\u00a0passage that we have, toward the end of that passage, it says, \u201cGod turned His wrath on His heritage.\u201d There\u2019s a piece of heritage-building, then, that\u2019s part of the goal. It\u2019s not a grandparent that\u2019s building their own heritage; it\u2019s the Lord\u2019s heritage.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0So I think\u2014and correct me, here, if I\u2019m wrong\u2014but I\u2019ve always seen this as what we <em>leave<\/em> is a legacy; what is <em>received<\/em> is a heritage. It\u2019s really just the same thing. If you\u2019re giving it, it\u2019s a legacy; if you\u2019re receiving it, it\u2019s a heritage. It\u2019s just the perspective from which it\u2019s passed on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, we don\u2019t see that word, \u201clegacy,\u201d in Scripture, so that idea of heritage is really what we\u2019re leaving our grandkids. That\u2019s a great question for grandparents to ask themselves: \u201cWhen you\u2019re no longer there, what is it that your grandkids will have from you?\u201d Of course, we want that, first and foremost, to be a strong faith in Jesus Christ that is passed down many generations.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, I\u2019m thinking of Joshua, Chapter 4. That\u2019s the chapter where, after crossing through the Jordan River, God tells the heads of the 12 tribes, the priests, to go get the memorial stones and set those up. We may not have physical stones that we can point to, but when you talk about sharing from your walk with Jesus, you\u2019re talking about the memorial stones of your life; aren\u2019t you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0Grandparents are storytellers. They have an important place in God\u2019s story to pass on the message of Christ. They do that as they focus on their own place in God\u2019s story\u2014centered in God and who He is, and what God has done in their life.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0We\u2019re talking with Josh Mulvihill about grandparenting. I mentioned that you shared earlier there are two ways grandparents can, spiritually, pass on their faith to their grandkids. One is by stories\/that\u2019s telling. You also said there\u2019s another way we do this, by teaching. Explain and unpack that, and give us an illustration of what that looks like too.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0Deuteronomy 4:9\u00a0gives a very explicit command to grandparents. It\u2019s to teach coming generations: their children and their children\u2019s children. Not only are we to teach our kids, but our grandkids as well. Many parents, I think, get to the point where they say, \u201cI\u2019ve done my job, and now that\u2019s my adult children\u2019s job to pass faith on to their children.\u201d But what we see in Scripture is that grandparents are given a very specific role. It\u2019s a verbal role, very often, but they are expected by God to open their mouth, open God\u2019s Word, and teach.<\/p>\n<p>My encouragement to you, as a grandparent, is this doesn\u2019t need to be anything extensive. It can be simply a single verse or a short passage that\u2019s read. It takes a couple of minutes\u2014a few questions to discuss it. Whether you have five days a year with your grandkids, or they\u2019re over at your house and you\u2019re babysitting them every single week, that can become part of the process that they do with you, as a grandparent, at some point during each day.<\/p>\n<p>They know, \u201cWhen I\u2019m with Grandma and Grandpa, we\u2019re going to be reading God\u2019s Word.\u201d A commitment to that, over a long period of time, makes a big impact on a grandchild. They\u2019ll remember, \u201cMy grandparent treasured God\u2019s Word. It was important enough that they opened it up and made it a priority in our home.\u201d Therefore, as grandparents, we need to step into that role that God expects of us.<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong>\u00a0And that\u2019s a very\u00a0<em>young<\/em>-sounding Josh Mulvihill. Did you catch what Josh said? He said that God\u2019s Word <em>commands <\/em>us to pass His truths down to the younger generation: that\u2019s the grandparents\u2019 role\/that\u2019s the grandparents\u2019 job. Once you raise your kids, and they\u2019re out the door, you still have work to do.<\/p>\n<p>Now, you may be familiar with our Family Manifesto. It\u2019s FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2019s philosophical statement about marriage and family. Well, there\u2019s also a statement about grandparents in there; and you can see that on our website, FamilyLifeThisWeek.com; that\u2019s FamilyLifeThisWeek.com.<\/p>\n<p>Sure, grandparents\u2014Grandma, Papa, Mimi, Pappy, Nana, Pops\u2014whatever your grandkids call you, you are more than an ice cream cone on a summer day. You are a source of truth to the little ones who are running around your knees.<\/p>\n<p>We have to take a break; but I want you to stick around, because I leaned into some grandmas on some really practical tips on how to be the best grandparent ever. Stay tuned.<\/p>\n<p>[Radio Station Spot Break]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong>\u00a0Welcome back to\u00a0<em>FamilyLife This Week<\/em>. I'm Michelle Hill. We\u2019re talking about grandparents today. Grandparents are very special people. Somehow, we think that they got to where they are today just by being seasoned veterans and <em>knowing<\/em> how to do this grandparent thing well. But we all have the first days; right? You had your first day of kindergarten; you had your first day on your job; you had the first day of marriage. I don\u2019t know about you, but on my first day of my first of anything, I kind of want to\u00a0<em>know <\/em>what to do.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re a new grandparent, you might be thinking the same thing: \u201cWhat\u2019s the first thing I need to do?\u201d We\u2019ve compiled sort of a \u201cTop Ten\u201d list thing. Bob Lepine sat down with Mary Larmoyeux and Nancy Downing\u2014you may remember those names from a little bit earlier on in the show\u2014Mary is a writer and an author, and Nancy is a teacher. They're both grandparents, who love their grandchildren and want to see their grandchildren <em>thrive<\/em>. Here they are with a sampling of that list.<\/p>\n<p>[Previous\u00a0<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u00a0Broadcast]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Alright; time for idea number eight on the countdown. Mary, this is yours.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, one of our ideas is something, probably, a lot of our listeners have done\u2014and just mark how tall your grandchild is on the door.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0We did that with our kids, and we have a door started for our grandkids. If you have grandkids who live out of town, you can still do it with them. Ask their mom or dad, \u201cHow tall are they?\u201d Ask them to send that to you, and you mark it on the door. You can show them on Skype\u2014that\u2019s how I do it\u2014show them how tall they are and how it\u2019s marked on the door. They like that a whole lot.<\/p>\n<p>You can also buy special measuring tapes and things and mail that to them, long distance, just so they\u2019re in the process of this special thing that they\u2019re doing with their grandparents.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Alright; we\u2019ve got to keep the \u201cTop Ten\u201d list moving. It\u2019s time for\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0It\u2019s now at the \u201cTop Thirteen,\u201d Bob.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Number Seven! Here we go; and that\u2019s you, Nancy.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nancy:<\/strong>\u00a0One thing that I think is awesome is furniture that\u2019s been passed down from generation to generation. I have a rocking chair that my grandmother rocked my mother in, and then she passed that to my mom, and my mom rocked all four of us. Then my mom passed it to me, and I rocked all three of my children; now, my daughter is rocking her child.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Cool! Alright; Number Six.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, I\u2019d say magazine subscriptions. You can order a magazine subscription for your grandchild and order the same one for you. If they live out of town, you can be reading the same articles. You can be asking them questions about it. You can show pictures on Skype<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> together. You can read it to the little ones; while they\u2019re looking at their magazine, you have the same one. That\u2019s something fun that we\u2019ve done.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0I know\u00a0<em>World Magazine <\/em>has\u00a0 a magazine for children: <em>God\u2019s World<\/em><em>\u00a0<\/em><em>Magazine<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0That could be the kind of thing you use.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, it does; and also, Focus on the Family<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> has\u00a0<em>Clubhouse<\/em>\u00a0and\u00a0<em>Clubhouse, Jr.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0Those are excellent. We get the\u00a0<em>Creation<\/em>\u00a0magazine, and it\u2019s Christian.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0This isn\u2019t a Christian magazine, but\u00a0<em>Ranger Rick<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0<em>Ranger Rick<\/em>!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0They love <em>Ranger Rick<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0We loved our\u00a0<em>Ranger Rick<\/em>\u00a0when our kids were little too.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Alright; what\u2019s Number\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014Number Five\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Number Five?!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019re down to Number Five!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I say go buy a gift and then have it wrapped up. If your grandchild lives out of town, then you can send them a picture of it. They get to guess clues about what they think it is. You\u2019re going to have the gift for the month, and so they get a couple of clues during each week. At the end of the month\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Give me an idea of what a clue might be.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nancy: <\/strong>\u201cThe object that is in here is bigger than a phone,\u201d or \u201cThe object in here is bigger than a blender,\u201d so that they would get the size, because you could have a great big box and have a smaller thing inside.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Alright; what are we down to?\u2014Number Two?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>We\u2019re down to Number Two. Here is\u2014in our \u201cTop Ten Ideas for Grandparents\u201d\u2014this is Number Two. Mary\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary: <\/strong>Dennis made me think of a conference that my husband and I went to a few years ago. One of the survivors of the Holocaust was being interviewed, and she told her story. It was real moving. Jim and I made a point to get our picture taken with her, because we want that for our grandchildren. We want to be able to tell them about her, which we have. Someday, when we die, we want our great grandkids to see this, and see her story, and know that some relatives of theirs actually stood by someone who lived that.<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle: <\/strong>That\u2019s Mary Larmoyeux and also Nancy Downing, sharing tips on how to be a\u00a0<em>great <\/em>grandma. We have that full interview that includes that \u201cTop Ten\u201d list on our website. Go to FamilyLifeThisWeek.com; that\u2019s FamilyLifeThisWeek.com.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe it\u2019s not a Holocaust survivor that you take a picture with\u2014maybe it\u2019s a survivor of 9\/11 or maybe somebody who lived through Hurricane Katrina\u2014whatever it is, grandparents, you want to pass down history, and you want to pass down those memories of what\u00a0<em>you <\/em>lived through. Help your grandkids get in touch with things that are <em>bigger<\/em> than themselves; help them to understand that there are actually real events and real things that are happening out here in the real world.<\/p>\n<p>You might have noticed that, with Mary and Nancy\u2019s \u201cTop Ten\u201d list, they were being intentional. I know of another lady who has spent time thinking through how she was going to be intentional with her grandkids. Her name is Anne Dierks. She created something she calls \u201cGranny Camp,\u201d in order to build memories with her 14 grandchildren. She wanted to spend quality time with them and to make lasting memories. It\u2019s a whole lot more than being considered <em>cool<\/em> by your grandkids. Here\u2019s Anne.<\/p>\n<p>[Previous\u00a0<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u00a0Broadcast]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne:<\/strong>\u00a0We had nine granddaughters born in five years. When I started having the first of those nine little girls, seven of them came. They were ages seven to four-and-a-half. None of them had ever been to Granny Camp\/had no idea what Granny Camp was. They just knew they were going to grandmother\u2019s and granddad\u2019s house.<\/p>\n<p>My daughter, who has twin daughters, turned to one of her twins and said, \u201cWhat do you want to do at Granny Camp?\u201d Well, they had no idea!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>She looked at her mother and she said, \u201cI want to make someone, that\u2019s sad, happy.\u201d When she called and told me this, and I wiped the tears from my eyes, I put the phone down and I called\u2014we live in a retirement community, where they have a nursing home unit\u2014I called them and I said, \u201cI have these seven little girls, who are all extroverts, like their grandmother. I\u2019m sure they would like to come and do a show at your nursing home. Would you like that?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>A show!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>A show. And they didn\u2019t know they were going to do a show! I just decided they were going to do a show! [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You didn\u2019t even have a show! [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>We didn\u2019t have a show! But I said, \u201cCan we come?\u201d And they said, \u201cYes, we\u2019d love it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So every year, we dress in our red, white, and blue; and we go to the nursing home, and we do a show in all these places. The night before, they make cookies for the residents. We get to do that for the assisted living people.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Great idea!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>It is just a wonderful thing that we do every year.<\/p>\n<p>I think our main job is to pass on love from us to the children. I mean, that\u2019s the main thing Granny Camp is about\u2014it\u2019s about love\u2014but it\u2019s also to pass on your traditions, that you\u2019ve grown up with that are special to you\u2014your faith, your love of family, your dedication to work, your work ethic\u2014the things that are important to you. This is a way to do it, especially when you live thousands of miles away from each other. It\u2019s a time\u2014and you know, it\u2019s kind of, I guess, the last job that God\u2019s given us to do\u2014and we have to do it well.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019ve seen some of those bumper stickers\u2014on maybe it\u2019s RVs or trailers\u2014that says, \u201cI\u2019m spending my children\u2019s inheritance.\u201d [Laughter] On one hand, it\u2019s cute. On another hand, it\u2019s kind of like, \u201cI just wonder if the lives of those people, that put a bumper sticker that declares that to the world, if they really are attempting to build into the lives of their grandchildren.\u201d I really like where you went\/where you started: love\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014the whole concept of a relationship. It\u2019s the Great Commandment\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>It is.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cLove God and love others as you love yourself.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>Oh, absolutely! I mean, it\u2019s in here: pass on your spiritual values; pray with them; be a good communicator; and listen to what they have to say, because these children are in a world of technology and in a world\u2014in fact, one of my rules is, \u201cYou don\u2019t bring your Nintendos<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, and you don\u2019t bring any of those things to Granny Camp.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So no cell phones by grandkids at Granny Camp?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>No, no. They did about two years ago, and they weren\u2019t communicating with each other. I said, \u201cPut that little machine, whatever it\u2019s called, over there on the table. You can see it! I\u2019m not stealing it; I\u2019m not taking it away. It\u2019s visible, but you are not to touch it. You just leave it there for this week, and we\u2019re going to talk to each other. We\u2019re going to interact with each other and not with this computer or whatever.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Can they check their Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u00a0before bed or something? I mean\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>No, no.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014they\u2019re cut off from the world?!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>Absolutely!!<\/p>\n<p>Now, I do say in here that we, as grandparents, need to understand that technology so that we can talk their language.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Sure.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>We need to know what a DS is and an [MP3]\u2014and all of those that I don\u2019t have any idea what they are! [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m thinking that the relative value of giving up your connection to the outside world in exchange for ice cream for dinner\u2014I\u2019m thinking that might be worth it! I might go for that. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>Well, I think that we need to talk to them. I think we need to, not only be good listeners, but we need to talk to them about some of the trends that are out there today\u2014the good ones and the bad ones.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, you get a chance, really, to put your fingerprints\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>Absolutely!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014on the hearts of your grandchildren; don\u2019t you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>Absolutely; because we\u2019re the ones\u2014we have the time; grandparents have more time than their parents do. I look at my children and how pressured they are with all the things of daily living, and getting their children here and there, and you know, getting food on the table. We were there! We remember! We didn\u2019t have the time to sit and listen, and talk, and do, which is terrible, but we didn\u2019t. Life was moving, but life moves even faster today for our children.<\/p>\n<p>We, as grandparents, have the time to take and talk to our grandchildren\u2014to listen to what their needs are. The choices that they\u2019re getting ready to make in their life are\u00a0so\u00a0important: who their friends are, where they go, what books they read, what they do\u2014all those things! We need to let them know that they have to be careful in all those choices.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>God gave us the right to choose, but we have to choose what\u2019s good and what is right. This is something that grandparents can spend time talking about, whereas parents just have to keep on keeping on. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes.<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle: <\/strong>That\u2019s Anne Dierks sharing about why she created Granny Camp. Something she said resonated with me: \u201cno texting\/no Facebook during Granny Camp.\u201d I visited someone\u2019s house a little while ago, and they had a basket in their foyer; it was for cell phones. You took your cell phone out of your pocket or out of your purse, and you put it in there; it stayed in there the whole time that you were in their house. Our conversation over dinner was enlightening and fun. We were\u00a0<em>not <\/em>distracted with any rings, or cell phone tones, or anything like that.<\/p>\n<p>Grandparents, you have the right to do this with your grandkids. You don\u2019t have to be a dictator about it, but you have a right to take their phone away or ask them to put it on airplane mode, so they can focus in on you and your conversation with <em>them<\/em>. It\u2019s all about being intentional.<\/p>\n<p>Well, next week, we are going to talk about parenting and schooling in the middle of a storm. We\u2019re going to hear from parents who have sent their kids to school, some who have kept their kids at home, and others who\u2019ve been homeschooling for a while. It\u2019s going to be some helpful encouragement during a <em>very <\/em>discouraging season. That\u2019s next week on <em>FamilyLife This Week.<\/em> I hope you can join us for that.<\/p>\n<p>Our program is a production of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, and our mission is to effectively develop godly families who change the world one home at a time.<\/p>\n<p>I'm Michelle Hill, inviting you to join us again next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife This Week.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"blank\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?<\/p>\n<p>Copyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2020 FamilyLife. 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Mary Larmoyeux, Nancy Downing, Josh Mulvihill, and Anne Dierks share scriptural examples and practical tips for being godly, intentional grandparents.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylife.com\/flw\/flw2020-10-17.pdf","transcript_content":"<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I was going to say\u2014it had to be hand-cranked; yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Hand-crank, a tow sack over the top. We made ice cream, and we made friends. Grandpa did it; I did it; my uncles did it; and it was just a sweet, sweet memory.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>My grandparents\u2014Grandma and Grandpa Cross\u2014used to come every year for Christmas to our house. They would drive from Flint, Michigan, to St. Louis for Christmas. They would bring a trunk full of Verner\u2019s Ginger Ale, which we couldn\u2019t get in St. Louis; they were crossing state lines with Verner\u2019s Ginger Ale.<\/p>\n<p>Then sometime, when Grandma was there, she would spend the night with me, sleeping in bed with me. I just remember\u2014I didn\u2019t realize until I got to be older that that was a sacrifice for her! [Laughter] You know, I thought she thought that would be as much fun as me!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Squirmy grandkids!<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What about you, Nancy? Your favorite memory?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nancy:<\/strong>\u00a0Both of my sets of grandparents lived out of state. One that I remember about my Grandmother Mack\u2014they lived in Wisconsin\u2014was that she would make, at Christmas time, all sorts of Christmas cookies and decorate them up just unbelievably. Then she would get a coat box, and she would send\u00a0<em>all <\/em>of those awesome decorated cookies to us. Then, in my family, there were all girls\u2014there were four girls. She would also send us a doll and all of the doll clothes that she had made for them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Wow!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nancy:<\/strong>\u00a0So that was always <em>awesome<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>My other grandparents were a lot older. I just always remember my grandfather\u2014I just remember him\u2014being so much shorter than my grandmother. After dinner, we would always walk around the block. It was just so sweet and tender, how he would just walk with me around the block, and we would just look at everything that God had created.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s what made it so neat\u2014we would just talk about whatever he wanted to talk about or whatever I wanted to talk about. I would always go there for two weeks in the summer to visit them. To this day, I still think about that. I remember one time even going to visit in the town where he was, so I could ride around in the car in that block.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0\u2014to kind of retrace the steps.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nancy:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes! It was just such a warm feeling.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0So Mary, what about you? What\u2019s your favorite memory?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, I actually remember my grandmother, Nana. We spent a lot of time with her. One of my favorite things was making houses out of cardboard. She\u2019d give us big Sears<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u00a0catalogs, and we\u2019d pull them out and cut out furniture. We\u2019d make doll houses, and dolls, and everything. I just remember that being a whole lot of fun. And she was always there; it seemed like Nana was always available. I spent a lot of time with Nana and had a wonderful relationship with her.<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong>\u00a0Oh, listening to those sweet ladies almost makes me think of the sweet southern grandmother: you know, she\u2019s part Ann Landers\/she gives all that great advice and wisdom; part Flannery O\u2019Connor, and tells those wonderful stories. Oh, wait! We have to throw in someone who\u2019s going to cook for us, too, right? Because that\u2019s what grandmas do! They make the best food!<\/p>\n<p>By the way, the voices that you heard were Mary Larmoyeux, who is an author, and also Nancy Downing, who is a special education teacher. In a little bit, we\u2019re going to hear more from them. They\u2019re actually going to give some practical advice on how to be the best grandparent you possibly can be.<\/p>\n<p>But before that, I want to answer the question: \u201cWhat does it mean to be a grandparent?\u201d You might not realize this, but God gave instructions in the Bible, even for grandparents; yes, He did.<\/p>\n<p>Josh Mulvihill is director of the Legacy Coalition. It\u2019s a ministry that equips grandparents to pass their faith to future generations. You can bet that he has spent some time studying the Bible on what it means. According to Josh\u2014well, and according to the Bible, so according to God\u2014grandparents have a pretty big job. It really boils down to one word; here he is.<\/p>\n<p>[Previous\u00a0<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u00a0Broadcast]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0I wanted to get down to one word from the Bible that you could define the role of a grandparent; because I think we can do that with a husband, a wife, and a child in Scripture; but what is that one word? That was part of my PhD dissertation\u2014was to find that one word. I spent a <em>year<\/em> studying Scripture, cover to cover\u2014hundreds of pages of text\u2014you know, writing down everything I found.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Okay! Okay!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0Are you ready for the word?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0We\u2019re waiting.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0We need a little drumroll here. [Drumroll sound]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Here we go!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, the word is \u201cheritage.\u201d We use the word, \u201clegacy,\u201d but this is a word seen in\u00a0Proverbs 13:22: \u201cA good man passes on an inheritance to his children\u2019s children.\u201d I think that has many applications: financial would be looked at, obviously; but I think spiritual is in there; a good name\/a good reputation is part of that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0We see [Psalm 127:3]: \u201cChildren are a heritage from the Lord,\u201d and I think that applies to grandchildren as well. In our Psalm 78\u00a0passage that we have, toward the end of that passage, it says, \u201cGod turned His wrath on His heritage.\u201d There\u2019s a piece of heritage-building, then, that\u2019s part of the goal. It\u2019s not a grandparent that\u2019s building their own heritage; it\u2019s the Lord\u2019s heritage.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0So I think\u2014and correct me, here, if I\u2019m wrong\u2014but I\u2019ve always seen this as what we <em>leave<\/em> is a legacy; what is <em>received<\/em> is a heritage. It\u2019s really just the same thing. If you\u2019re giving it, it\u2019s a legacy; if you\u2019re receiving it, it\u2019s a heritage. It\u2019s just the perspective from which it\u2019s passed on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, we don\u2019t see that word, \u201clegacy,\u201d in Scripture, so that idea of heritage is really what we\u2019re leaving our grandkids. That\u2019s a great question for grandparents to ask themselves: \u201cWhen you\u2019re no longer there, what is it that your grandkids will have from you?\u201d Of course, we want that, first and foremost, to be a strong faith in Jesus Christ that is passed down many generations.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, I\u2019m thinking of Joshua, Chapter 4. That\u2019s the chapter where, after crossing through the Jordan River, God tells the heads of the 12 tribes, the priests, to go get the memorial stones and set those up. We may not have physical stones that we can point to, but when you talk about sharing from your walk with Jesus, you\u2019re talking about the memorial stones of your life; aren\u2019t you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0Grandparents are storytellers. They have an important place in God\u2019s story to pass on the message of Christ. They do that as they focus on their own place in God\u2019s story\u2014centered in God and who He is, and what God has done in their life.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0We\u2019re talking with Josh Mulvihill about grandparenting. I mentioned that you shared earlier there are two ways grandparents can, spiritually, pass on their faith to their grandkids. One is by stories\/that\u2019s telling. You also said there\u2019s another way we do this, by teaching. Explain and unpack that, and give us an illustration of what that looks like too.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Josh:<\/strong>\u00a0Deuteronomy 4:9\u00a0gives a very explicit command to grandparents. It\u2019s to teach coming generations: their children and their children\u2019s children. Not only are we to teach our kids, but our grandkids as well. Many parents, I think, get to the point where they say, \u201cI\u2019ve done my job, and now that\u2019s my adult children\u2019s job to pass faith on to their children.\u201d But what we see in Scripture is that grandparents are given a very specific role. It\u2019s a verbal role, very often, but they are expected by God to open their mouth, open God\u2019s Word, and teach.<\/p>\n<p>My encouragement to you, as a grandparent, is this doesn\u2019t need to be anything extensive. It can be simply a single verse or a short passage that\u2019s read. It takes a couple of minutes\u2014a few questions to discuss it. Whether you have five days a year with your grandkids, or they\u2019re over at your house and you\u2019re babysitting them every single week, that can become part of the process that they do with you, as a grandparent, at some point during each day.<\/p>\n<p>They know, \u201cWhen I\u2019m with Grandma and Grandpa, we\u2019re going to be reading God\u2019s Word.\u201d A commitment to that, over a long period of time, makes a big impact on a grandchild. They\u2019ll remember, \u201cMy grandparent treasured God\u2019s Word. It was important enough that they opened it up and made it a priority in our home.\u201d Therefore, as grandparents, we need to step into that role that God expects of us.<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong>\u00a0And that\u2019s a very\u00a0<em>young<\/em>-sounding Josh Mulvihill. Did you catch what Josh said? He said that God\u2019s Word <em>commands <\/em>us to pass His truths down to the younger generation: that\u2019s the grandparents\u2019 role\/that\u2019s the grandparents\u2019 job. Once you raise your kids, and they\u2019re out the door, you still have work to do.<\/p>\n<p>Now, you may be familiar with our Family Manifesto. It\u2019s FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2019s philosophical statement about marriage and family. Well, there\u2019s also a statement about grandparents in there; and you can see that on our website, FamilyLifeThisWeek.com; that\u2019s FamilyLifeThisWeek.com.<\/p>\n<p>Sure, grandparents\u2014Grandma, Papa, Mimi, Pappy, Nana, Pops\u2014whatever your grandkids call you, you are more than an ice cream cone on a summer day. You are a source of truth to the little ones who are running around your knees.<\/p>\n<p>We have to take a break; but I want you to stick around, because I leaned into some grandmas on some really practical tips on how to be the best grandparent ever. Stay tuned.<\/p>\n<p>[Radio Station Spot Break]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong>\u00a0Welcome back to\u00a0<em>FamilyLife This Week<\/em>. I'm Michelle Hill. We\u2019re talking about grandparents today. Grandparents are very special people. Somehow, we think that they got to where they are today just by being seasoned veterans and <em>knowing<\/em> how to do this grandparent thing well. But we all have the first days; right? You had your first day of kindergarten; you had your first day on your job; you had the first day of marriage. I don\u2019t know about you, but on my first day of my first of anything, I kind of want to\u00a0<em>know <\/em>what to do.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re a new grandparent, you might be thinking the same thing: \u201cWhat\u2019s the first thing I need to do?\u201d We\u2019ve compiled sort of a \u201cTop Ten\u201d list thing. Bob Lepine sat down with Mary Larmoyeux and Nancy Downing\u2014you may remember those names from a little bit earlier on in the show\u2014Mary is a writer and an author, and Nancy is a teacher. They're both grandparents, who love their grandchildren and want to see their grandchildren <em>thrive<\/em>. Here they are with a sampling of that list.<\/p>\n<p>[Previous\u00a0<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u00a0Broadcast]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Alright; time for idea number eight on the countdown. Mary, this is yours.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, one of our ideas is something, probably, a lot of our listeners have done\u2014and just mark how tall your grandchild is on the door.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0We did that with our kids, and we have a door started for our grandkids. If you have grandkids who live out of town, you can still do it with them. Ask their mom or dad, \u201cHow tall are they?\u201d Ask them to send that to you, and you mark it on the door. You can show them on Skype\u2014that\u2019s how I do it\u2014show them how tall they are and how it\u2019s marked on the door. They like that a whole lot.<\/p>\n<p>You can also buy special measuring tapes and things and mail that to them, long distance, just so they\u2019re in the process of this special thing that they\u2019re doing with their grandparents.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Alright; we\u2019ve got to keep the \u201cTop Ten\u201d list moving. It\u2019s time for\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0It\u2019s now at the \u201cTop Thirteen,\u201d Bob.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Number Seven! Here we go; and that\u2019s you, Nancy.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nancy:<\/strong>\u00a0One thing that I think is awesome is furniture that\u2019s been passed down from generation to generation. I have a rocking chair that my grandmother rocked my mother in, and then she passed that to my mom, and my mom rocked all four of us. Then my mom passed it to me, and I rocked all three of my children; now, my daughter is rocking her child.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Cool! Alright; Number Six.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, I\u2019d say magazine subscriptions. You can order a magazine subscription for your grandchild and order the same one for you. If they live out of town, you can be reading the same articles. You can be asking them questions about it. You can show pictures on Skype<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> together. You can read it to the little ones; while they\u2019re looking at their magazine, you have the same one. That\u2019s something fun that we\u2019ve done.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0I know\u00a0<em>World Magazine <\/em>has\u00a0 a magazine for children: <em>God\u2019s World<\/em><em>\u00a0<\/em><em>Magazine<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0That could be the kind of thing you use.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, it does; and also, Focus on the Family<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> has\u00a0<em>Clubhouse<\/em>\u00a0and\u00a0<em>Clubhouse, Jr.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0Those are excellent. We get the\u00a0<em>Creation<\/em>\u00a0magazine, and it\u2019s Christian.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0This isn\u2019t a Christian magazine, but\u00a0<em>Ranger Rick<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0<em>Ranger Rick<\/em>!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary:<\/strong>\u00a0They love <em>Ranger Rick<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong>\u00a0We loved our\u00a0<em>Ranger Rick<\/em>\u00a0when our kids were little too.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Alright; what\u2019s Number\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014Number Five\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Number Five?!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019re down to Number Five!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I say go buy a gift and then have it wrapped up. If your grandchild lives out of town, then you can send them a picture of it. They get to guess clues about what they think it is. You\u2019re going to have the gift for the month, and so they get a couple of clues during each week. At the end of the month\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Give me an idea of what a clue might be.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nancy: <\/strong>\u201cThe object that is in here is bigger than a phone,\u201d or \u201cThe object in here is bigger than a blender,\u201d so that they would get the size, because you could have a great big box and have a smaller thing inside.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Alright; what are we down to?\u2014Number Two?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>We\u2019re down to Number Two. Here is\u2014in our \u201cTop Ten Ideas for Grandparents\u201d\u2014this is Number Two. Mary\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mary: <\/strong>Dennis made me think of a conference that my husband and I went to a few years ago. One of the survivors of the Holocaust was being interviewed, and she told her story. It was real moving. Jim and I made a point to get our picture taken with her, because we want that for our grandchildren. We want to be able to tell them about her, which we have. Someday, when we die, we want our great grandkids to see this, and see her story, and know that some relatives of theirs actually stood by someone who lived that.<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle: <\/strong>That\u2019s Mary Larmoyeux and also Nancy Downing, sharing tips on how to be a\u00a0<em>great <\/em>grandma. We have that full interview that includes that \u201cTop Ten\u201d list on our website. Go to FamilyLifeThisWeek.com; that\u2019s FamilyLifeThisWeek.com.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe it\u2019s not a Holocaust survivor that you take a picture with\u2014maybe it\u2019s a survivor of 9\/11 or maybe somebody who lived through Hurricane Katrina\u2014whatever it is, grandparents, you want to pass down history, and you want to pass down those memories of what\u00a0<em>you <\/em>lived through. Help your grandkids get in touch with things that are <em>bigger<\/em> than themselves; help them to understand that there are actually real events and real things that are happening out here in the real world.<\/p>\n<p>You might have noticed that, with Mary and Nancy\u2019s \u201cTop Ten\u201d list, they were being intentional. I know of another lady who has spent time thinking through how she was going to be intentional with her grandkids. Her name is Anne Dierks. She created something she calls \u201cGranny Camp,\u201d in order to build memories with her 14 grandchildren. She wanted to spend quality time with them and to make lasting memories. It\u2019s a whole lot more than being considered <em>cool<\/em> by your grandkids. Here\u2019s Anne.<\/p>\n<p>[Previous\u00a0<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u00a0Broadcast]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne:<\/strong>\u00a0We had nine granddaughters born in five years. When I started having the first of those nine little girls, seven of them came. They were ages seven to four-and-a-half. None of them had ever been to Granny Camp\/had no idea what Granny Camp was. They just knew they were going to grandmother\u2019s and granddad\u2019s house.<\/p>\n<p>My daughter, who has twin daughters, turned to one of her twins and said, \u201cWhat do you want to do at Granny Camp?\u201d Well, they had no idea!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong>\u00a0Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>She looked at her mother and she said, \u201cI want to make someone, that\u2019s sad, happy.\u201d When she called and told me this, and I wiped the tears from my eyes, I put the phone down and I called\u2014we live in a retirement community, where they have a nursing home unit\u2014I called them and I said, \u201cI have these seven little girls, who are all extroverts, like their grandmother. I\u2019m sure they would like to come and do a show at your nursing home. Would you like that?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>A show!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>A show. And they didn\u2019t know they were going to do a show! I just decided they were going to do a show! [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You didn\u2019t even have a show! [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>We didn\u2019t have a show! But I said, \u201cCan we come?\u201d And they said, \u201cYes, we\u2019d love it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So every year, we dress in our red, white, and blue; and we go to the nursing home, and we do a show in all these places. The night before, they make cookies for the residents. We get to do that for the assisted living people.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Great idea!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>It is just a wonderful thing that we do every year.<\/p>\n<p>I think our main job is to pass on love from us to the children. I mean, that\u2019s the main thing Granny Camp is about\u2014it\u2019s about love\u2014but it\u2019s also to pass on your traditions, that you\u2019ve grown up with that are special to you\u2014your faith, your love of family, your dedication to work, your work ethic\u2014the things that are important to you. This is a way to do it, especially when you live thousands of miles away from each other. It\u2019s a time\u2014and you know, it\u2019s kind of, I guess, the last job that God\u2019s given us to do\u2014and we have to do it well.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019ve seen some of those bumper stickers\u2014on maybe it\u2019s RVs or trailers\u2014that says, \u201cI\u2019m spending my children\u2019s inheritance.\u201d [Laughter] On one hand, it\u2019s cute. On another hand, it\u2019s kind of like, \u201cI just wonder if the lives of those people, that put a bumper sticker that declares that to the world, if they really are attempting to build into the lives of their grandchildren.\u201d I really like where you went\/where you started: love\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014the whole concept of a relationship. It\u2019s the Great Commandment\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>It is.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cLove God and love others as you love yourself.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>Oh, absolutely! I mean, it\u2019s in here: pass on your spiritual values; pray with them; be a good communicator; and listen to what they have to say, because these children are in a world of technology and in a world\u2014in fact, one of my rules is, \u201cYou don\u2019t bring your Nintendos<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, and you don\u2019t bring any of those things to Granny Camp.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So no cell phones by grandkids at Granny Camp?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>No, no. They did about two years ago, and they weren\u2019t communicating with each other. I said, \u201cPut that little machine, whatever it\u2019s called, over there on the table. You can see it! I\u2019m not stealing it; I\u2019m not taking it away. It\u2019s visible, but you are not to touch it. You just leave it there for this week, and we\u2019re going to talk to each other. We\u2019re going to interact with each other and not with this computer or whatever.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Can they check their Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u00a0before bed or something? I mean\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>No, no.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014they\u2019re cut off from the world?!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>Absolutely!!<\/p>\n<p>Now, I do say in here that we, as grandparents, need to understand that technology so that we can talk their language.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Sure.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>We need to know what a DS is and an [MP3]\u2014and all of those that I don\u2019t have any idea what they are! [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m thinking that the relative value of giving up your connection to the outside world in exchange for ice cream for dinner\u2014I\u2019m thinking that might be worth it! I might go for that. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>Well, I think that we need to talk to them. I think we need to, not only be good listeners, but we need to talk to them about some of the trends that are out there today\u2014the good ones and the bad ones.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, you get a chance, really, to put your fingerprints\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>Absolutely!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014on the hearts of your grandchildren; don\u2019t you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>Absolutely; because we\u2019re the ones\u2014we have the time; grandparents have more time than their parents do. I look at my children and how pressured they are with all the things of daily living, and getting their children here and there, and you know, getting food on the table. We were there! We remember! We didn\u2019t have the time to sit and listen, and talk, and do, which is terrible, but we didn\u2019t. Life was moving, but life moves even faster today for our children.<\/p>\n<p>We, as grandparents, have the time to take and talk to our grandchildren\u2014to listen to what their needs are. The choices that they\u2019re getting ready to make in their life are\u00a0so\u00a0important: who their friends are, where they go, what books they read, what they do\u2014all those things! We need to let them know that they have to be careful in all those choices.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anne: <\/strong>God gave us the right to choose, but we have to choose what\u2019s good and what is right. This is something that grandparents can spend time talking about, whereas parents just have to keep on keeping on. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes.<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle: <\/strong>That\u2019s Anne Dierks sharing about why she created Granny Camp. Something she said resonated with me: \u201cno texting\/no Facebook during Granny Camp.\u201d I visited someone\u2019s house a little while ago, and they had a basket in their foyer; it was for cell phones. You took your cell phone out of your pocket or out of your purse, and you put it in there; it stayed in there the whole time that you were in their house. Our conversation over dinner was enlightening and fun. We were\u00a0<em>not <\/em>distracted with any rings, or cell phone tones, or anything like that.<\/p>\n<p>Grandparents, you have the right to do this with your grandkids. You don\u2019t have to be a dictator about it, but you have a right to take their phone away or ask them to put it on airplane mode, so they can focus in on you and your conversation with <em>them<\/em>. It\u2019s all about being intentional.<\/p>\n<p>Well, next week, we are going to talk about parenting and schooling in the middle of a storm. We\u2019re going to hear from parents who have sent their kids to school, some who have kept their kids at home, and others who\u2019ve been homeschooling for a while. It\u2019s going to be some helpful encouragement during a <em>very <\/em>discouraging season. That\u2019s next week on <em>FamilyLife This Week.<\/em> I hope you can join us for that.<\/p>\n<p>Our program is a production of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, and our mission is to effectively develop godly families who change the world one home at a time.<\/p>\n<p>I'm Michelle Hill, inviting you to join us again next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife This Week.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"blank\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?<\/p>\n<p>Copyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2020 FamilyLife. 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