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God made your skin for His glory; He made you for His glory. He didn\u2019t make an accident. You are beautiful, because you are fearfully and wonderfully made. Regardless of how the world responds to the way that you\u2019ve been fearfully and wonderfully made, that doesn\u2019t change the truth of the fact that God loves you and cares for you in your brown skin and in your brown body.\u201d\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, October 14<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I\u2019m Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. What\u2019s it like to be a minority family raising your kids in a majority white culture? We\u2019ll spend some time talking with Jasmine Holmes about that today. Stay with us.\n\nAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I would think, if we were having kids, today\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You already had kids, Bob.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I know; I know. [Laughter] We had them in a time that had its challenges, but I would think\u2014\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s very different today.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. If you were a new parent, welcoming a son or a daughter into the world today, you would be thinking, \u201cWhat is ahead? What kind of a world are they going to grow up in?\u201d The issues we\u2019re facing in our culture today are just very challenging.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think it would be challenging to know what conversations to have and how to have them. It\u2019s a real different time. I think it\u2019s important that we have those conversations.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m sort of glad we\u2019re grandparents\u2014[Laughter]\u2014you know?\u2014because we can just sort of take them and then give them back.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cHere is our advice; we\u2019ll see you on the other side.\u201d [Laughter]\n\nWe\u2019ve got a friend joining us; in fact, this is kind of fun\u2014I don\u2019t know if she remembers this\u2014but Jasmine Holmes is joining us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Jasmine, welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Thank you so much for having me.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s a delight to have you. Do you remember the first time you were on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I do remember, actually; yes.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I thought we ought to just revisit that for a second.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> How long ago was it?\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This was more than a decade ago. You were 19 years old; Jasmine\u2019s dad was our guest that day; his name is Voddie Baucham. He had written a book called <em>What He Must Be if He Wants to Marry My Daughter<\/em>. [Laughter] We thought, \u201cWe ought to call Jasmine and just see what she thinks about this book.\u201d Are you ready to hear what you said back when you were19 years old?\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wait; oh, she was 19.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201419 years old. You ready for this? Here we go.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> No; but go ahead. [Laughter]\n\n[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast]\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jasmine, you\u2019re 19 years old, right now; right?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes, sir.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Are you still going to give this book the Jasmine Baucham seal of approval when your 25?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes, sir\u201428, 29, 32.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> If the guys haven\u2019t stepped up, you\u2019re okay with that at 32?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes, sir.\n\n[Studio]\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There you were at 19. Now, you\u2019re 30 years old; right?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, I want to hear this process when your husband Phillip\u2014how old were you when Phillip approached your dad?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I was almost 24\u2014just under 24.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How did that go?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> It was interesting. We met each other at a conference on my 23<sup>rd<\/sup> birthday, and we walked up to him\u2014me and my mom. For my mom, it was love at first sight. [Laughter] She was like elbowing me in the arm, and she goes\u2014and Phillip is going to kill me, but he\u2019s not in here; so he can\u2019t stop me from telling you\u2014she goes, \u201cAre you crazy? Do you not see that tall, chocolate, hunk of marriage material standing right in front of you?\u201d I was like, \u201cOh my! No, I don\u2019t!\u201d\n\nThe first words that Phillip ever said to me were \u201cAre you Voddie Baucham\u2019s daughter?\u201d I was like, \u201cGreat; that\u2019s never going to be a thing. [Laughter]\u00a0 He\u2019s like a Voddie fan, and I don\u2019t want to talk to anybody who is like a Voddie fan.\u201d He wasn\u2019t\u2014I mean, he was\u2014but not in a weird way. He was talking to my dad, because they were going to do an interview together; so he was looking for him, legitimately, not for an autograph. Yes, we kind of\u2014we talked a little bit at that conference.\n\nA year later, we were both in California for different reasons. I saw on Twitter<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> that he was on the same beach that I was on. I was like, \u201cThat\u2019s so funny that we\u2019re both here.\u201d He said, \u201cYes, we should get together; we should get dinner. I\u2019m with a friend,\u201d\u2014who we also know\u2014\u201cWe should all get dinner together.\u201d That night at dinner, I realized that\/I was like, \u201cOkay; maybe, my mom was kind of right. I kind of do like him.\u201d We started talking a little bit afterwards. Yes, we\u2014that was in March that we officially started dating, and then we were married by October.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jasmine is, not only Phillip\u2019s wife and Voddie\u2019s daughter, Jasmine is an author; she\u2019s a mom; she\u2019s a speaker; she\u2019s a podcaster\u2014together with Jackie Hill Perry and Melissa Kruger\u2014they\u2019ve got a podcast. What\u2019s your podcast called?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> It\u2019s called <em>Let\u2019s Talk<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; and it\u2019s a <em>great<\/em> podcast.\n\nShe\u2019s written a book called <em>Mother to Son<\/em>. When you were writing this book, a part of what was the inspiration behind this book is raising a son, who is going to grow up as a minority in a majority white culture. You had no idea that we would be where we are today in that conversation and in all that\u2019s gone on since you wrote the book. Would you change what you\u2019ve written, given where we are today?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think I would. I really think that God gave me grace to talk about things that\u2014truths that were transcendent, regardless of where we were going to be in the next six months to a year. When I started writing it, some other things were going on in the country that, by the time I finished writing it, weren\u2019t really going on anymore.\n\nHopefully, it comes back up; and when it does, this is a helpful book. As a black mother, it\u2019s something we\u2019re always talking about, and I\u2019m always talking about. I had no idea of that a couple of months\/a few months after the book actually came out that more people would be talking about these topics.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Help us understand what black mothers are talking to one another about that we just don\u2019t have a sense of.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I\u2019ll give you a good example. I, the other day, took my son on a play date; and it was kind of rough. My son is\u2014he\u2019s similar to me in that he is like really expressive and really dramatic. Every time he throws a tantrum\u2014or has a crazy, exorcist, head-spinning moment\u2014I\u2019m like, \u201cThose are my genes; I\u2019m sorry.\u201d I took him on a play date, and he was not treated very well by the kids that were at the play date. They kind of knew each other better than they knew him, and they weren\u2019t very nice to him. Then his response was a very\/like level 10 response.\n\nIt was just one of those situations, where I was coming home, and I was just feeling really upset. I ended up talking to some black mom friends of mine and just sharing with them, \u201cHey, it was really hard for me when Wynn acted this way at the play date; because he was the only black kid there. It made me feel like maybe they\u2019ll make assumptions about him, because of the color of his skin,\u201d or \u201cIt made me feel like I really had to stop and separate, \u2018Okay; these kids don\u2019t know him as well. They are not treating him this way because he is black; they are not treating\u2026\u2019\u201d\n\nI just had to like go through all of these mental checklists to make sure that my heart was right\u2014to make sure that I was having expectations of my son that you should normally have of a four-year-old\u2014and not special expectations just because he\u2019s the only black kid in the room. There was just a whole checklist that I went through, that these moms understood uniquely, because they are the things that they are thinking about for their sons all the time.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> At the very beginning, you said, \u201cOne of the reasons I wanted to write to my son, Wynn, was to help him understand, if he feels \u2018other\u2019 because of the color of his skin,\u201d\u2014and you just told a story about that; right? Explain what that feels like for a mother to be able to explain that to her son.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I have learned, as a parent, that oftentimes my parenting comes out of a place of hurt in my life or a place of unresolved things in my life. When I look at my son\u2014and I\u2019m able to kind of see, through his eyes, all of those little childhood wounds that I have\/all the little childhood stuff that I have going on\u2014I just want to speak to him the words that my parents spoke to me, the words that God speaks about me, the words that I wanted to hear\u2014which were that: \u201cYou\u2019re loved; you\u2019re black on purpose. God made your skin for His glory; He made you for His glory. He didn\u2019t make an accident. You are beautiful, because you are fearfully and wonderfully made. Regardless of how the world responds to the way that you\u2019ve been fearfully and wonderfully made, that doesn\u2019t change the truth of the fact that God loves you, and cares for you in your brown skin and in your brown body.\u201d\n\nI think I\u2019m talking to him; but in a way, I\u2019m also\/I\u2019m reminding myself as well.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let\u2019s talk about some of those wounds in your own life, because you get into some of this in your book. Do you remember when you became aware of the fact that your skin was different than other kids\u2019 skin that you were playing with?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes; I was really young. My mom had just given birth to my brother, so I was maybe three\/three-and-a-half, going on four. I was at a daycare center, and I was the only black kid at the daycare center. I would get into fights, like really big scuffles. My mom would come up to school and ask what happened, and I would not be able to really articulate what happened.\n\nOne day, she came up to the school because I had sprained my arm, running away from a little boy on a playset\/fell off of the top of the playset; arm was sprained. Finally, the entire story came out, which is that the kids were calling me the n-word, calling me a monkey, chasing me around the playground. In my little three-year-old brain, I didn\u2019t know quite what that word meant; I didn\u2019t know quite what those things meant, but I knew that it meant that I was different. I knew enough to feel shame to where I didn\u2019t want to tell my mom what they were saying about me.\n\nIt\u2019s sad that it was a negative experience\u2014the first time that I realized that I was different\u2014but that was definitely it.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, you know, I read that story last night. I teared up for you, as a little girl. Yet, I also was amazed at\u2014was it your mom or your grandma that went back and said, \u201cWe\u2019re not doing this\u201d?\u2014she stood up for you.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> My mom.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That was your mom that went back there; yes.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Talk about that. If this happens to Wynn, or one of your sons, how are you going to respond?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> It\u2019s one of my best memories, because my parents are\u2014like a lot of Christian parents\u2014when we get into a fight, or we get into a scrape, they come up, and they are like, \u201cWell, what did you do, Jasmine? I realize that he hit you. What did you do first?\u201d or \u201cI realize that you\u2019re not getting along with this teacher, but what have you done?\u201d\n\nThere are a few key memories in my life, where my mom just was complete and total mamma bear. That was the first one that I remember of her just kind of grabbing my arm and talking to the teacher. I don\u2019t remember what she said, but I just remember like a whole lot of hands flying and a whole lot of just very expressive\u2014I never went back again. It just made me feel so safe and protected. That\u2019s a feeling I want to duplicate for my son at any opportunity.\n\nI hope that I never have to live through that, as a mother; but on the receiving end, as a child, my mom just showed me a great deal of love in that moment and kind of embodied what it means to be a mom\u2014right?\u2014to protect your child.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You\u2019re four years old, and you\u2019re really the victim of racism on a playground. Did you experience a lot that, growing up?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I didn\u2019t experience a lot of outright racism, growing up. I experienced a lot of casual prejudice, growing up.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What does that look like?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Just little things of, you know, when I was a teenager\u2014I\u2019ll start before that. The first boy that I ever had a crush on\u2014it is so funny. When I was getting married, I was moving out, and I have had the same furniture in my bedroom since I was, like, six years old. I was clearing out the back of a drawer, and I found a Valentine from my very first crush.\n\nI was like, \u201cOh, this is so funny.\u201d Phillip was like, \u201cWho is this guy?!\u201d\u2014you know, being kind of silly. He said, \u201cYou know\u201d\u2014he\u2019s asking me for this story. I was like, \u201cActually, I didn\u2019t remember, until you asked me this story, that I told a friend that \u2018I like this boy.\u2019 I was nine; and he told the nine-year-old boy that: \u201cJasmine really likes you.\u201d The nine-year-old boy kind of looks at me and he goes, \u201cOh, no, that\u2019s gross. I don\u2019t like black girls; they\u2019re not pretty.\u201d My very first like, \u201cOh, I feel butterflies about this boy,\u201d thing, ended like that.\n\nThere were just a lot of little things like that of, you know: \u201cYour hair is not very pretty. It\u2019s really frizzy,\u201d or \u201cYour skin looks weird,\u201d\u2014you know, just little things. Then, as a teenager, just lots of questions, that weren\u2019t motivated by a heart of racism, I don\u2019t think, but made me uncomfortable sometimes, or made me feel different, or made me feel \u201cother\u201d; but nothing as outright as that.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As you talk about that, I\u2019m thinking about the fact that those of us, who are a part of a majority culture\u2014we didn\u2019t have the experience of feeling \u201cother\u201d or feeling different because we are part of the majority culture.\n\nIs it front-of-mind for someone, who is in a minority culture? Is it something that is kind of always present there: \u201cI\u2019m different than the other people in this room\u201d?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes; I think it\u2019s always in the back of the mind; right? It may not always be right up at the forefront; but it is something that\u2014as a black child, growing up in a [white] majority culture\u2014when I was in private school, my parents did talk to me differently. I distinctly remember my mom having conversations with me and saying, \u201cJasmine, when you act out in these ways, it is not the same as when your white friends act out. When you do \u2018x,\u2019 it is not the same as when your white friends do \u2018x,\u2019\u201d\u2014so almost being held to higher standard in wanting to be exemplary; because I was the only black person, and often, person of color in a room.\n\nAlso, just\/you know, people\u2014I always joke that everybody talks about the white people, with the one black friend\u2014that was me. All of those stories, involving the one black friend\u2014I have some version of those stories for sure. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Did you feel that, as well, in the church\/in the community?\u2014because I know that you\/I think your dad was at a church that was predominately white. Did you feel pressure there as well?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes; I just felt different. I was homeschooled, so most of my social interactions in that junior\/high school age range were at church with young people from my church.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> When you write a book, it\u2019s part of you\u2014especially this\u2014if you\u2019re writing it to your son. It\u2019s your passion\/is what you\u2019re bleeding. As you were writing it, what were you hoping, like, \u201cOh, I just want you\u2026\u201d\u2014like what was going on in your mind as you were writing this?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I wanted him, and really everybody who read the book, to feel <em>seen<\/em>. I think that\u2019s such a <em>huge<\/em> piece of identity, which I love to write about anything having to do with identity\u2014motherhood, womanhood, being a black woman, being an American\u2014all those things that kind of go into the pie of who you are.\n\nAs I was writing to my son, and to the church at large, I just wanted people to feel seen and understood\/to feel something that they could connect to\u2014because even if you\u2019re not a black mother\u2014most of us have an experience of a mother\u2019s love. A lot of us have children; we\u2019re supposed to be a family of faith; so this is a sister of faith writing a familial story. I wanted it to be familiar and to feel like we were connected.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jasmine, there is phrase that is used today that describes a lot of what you\u2019ve described for us here. People will talk about experiencing micro-aggressions\u2014I\u2019ve heard that phrase\u2014and part of me is like: \u201cWell, doesn\u2019t the Bible say you just overlook that stuff and kind of move on?\u201d or \u201cIs this something that we should be more alert to, and more sensitive to, and be dealing with?\u201d\n\nHow do you process the whole idea of micro-aggressions? And as you think about your son, who will undoubtedly experience some of those, growing up, will you coach him to just: \u201cIt\u2019s a man\u2019s glory to overlook an offense,\u201d or will you say, \u201cNo; you need to stand up for yourself in these situations\u201d?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I guess it depends on the offense. I think that there can be a couple of different categories of micro-aggressions, which is not a term I like to use. I tend to stay away from some of those hot button terms, because I feel like they are really loaded; and people kind of immediately have this gut reaction to them.\n\nBut there may be one category of person, who is literally just asking a question; because they want to know the answer to it; right? I have had friends, who ask me all the time about my hair; or \u201cDo I have to wear sunscreen?\u201d or \u201cDo I have\u2026\u201d\u2014you know those questions, in some people\u2019s minds, could be construed as micro-aggressions. In my mind, it\u2019s: \u201cPeople are curious; people want to know. I understand; I get it.\u201d\n\nBut sometimes, people say things that are rooted in assumptions; or sometimes people say things that are rooted in prejudices. I don\u2019t feel it is loving to let a person continue in that kind of thought process. I don\u2019t think that it\u2019s loving not to shed light on something that a person may not know. It might be the difference between assuming that a person means you ill or, maybe, just saying, \u201cHey, I don\u2019t know if you realize that what you said could be offensive; I did feel a little bit offended. I would love to talk to you about why. Would you be open to that?\u201d\n\nI\u2019ve had several of those conversations, as an adult. Most of them have ended really well. It\u2019s always awkward; but I think it\u2019s important to love people by shedding light on areas where they can love you better and being open to when people want to shed light on how you can love them better as well.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> To do that, when you\u2019re 30 years old, is different than when you are 7 years old. There\u2019s something that happens that\u2019s a sliding or\u2014when your son\u2014I\u2019m just imagining that your son is the last one picked on whatever sports team, because his skin different; and people just have a prejudice or think there is something wrong with him. How will you train a seven-year-old to deal with that kind of a sense of slight or being acknowledged as different? What will you tell him he ought to do in that moment?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> In that moment, I honestly don\u2019t know; because my son is four. I do think it\u2019s really important for me, at this stage of Wynn\u2019s life, to kind of frontload helpful truth into him\u2014so he knows that he is brown; he knows that God made him brown on purpose; he knows that that\u2019s beautiful\u2014in fact, you say, \u201cWynn, you\u2019re so handsome.\u201d He goes, \u201cI know.\u201d I\u2019m just like, \u201cSay, \u2018Thank you.\u2019\u201d [Laughter] It\u2019s like that thoughtful, like, \u201cYes,\u201d\u2014he\u2019s nodding, like\u2014\u201cI know; I know.\u201d [Laughter] So he knows\/he knows that about himself.\n\nI am more concerned, at this point in his life, with solidifying his identity than I am with teaching him all of the ins and outs of advocating for himself; because that\u2019s going to come with time. \u201cHow does any child advocate for themselves?\u201d\u2014\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014right.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> \u2014right?\u2014\u201cHow does any child learn how to say, \u2018No\u2019?\u201d \u201cHow does any child learn about bodily autonomy?\u201d \u201cHow does any child learn\u2026\u201d\u2014it all just comes from practice; and in my case, as a 30-year-old mother, a lot of it comes from trial and error.\n\nMy concern, at this point of his life\/at this point of his understanding, is just teaching him who he is and how he\u2019s fearfully and wonderfully made. As those other things come up, in a developmentally-appropriate way, just kind of saying, like my mom did, \u201cThis is not your fault. You are beautiful. God made you brown on purpose.\u201d\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What you\u2019re saying is so insightful\u2014because as he turns 10, 12, 14,16, he may say, \u201cI know,\u201d when you ask him that question\u2014I think, inside, though, there is going to be a doubt; because he is hearing all these other people say\u2014and you\u2019re planting a foundation that\u2019s going to be so critical in the years to come\u2014whether that\u2019s a white boy or a black\u2014it doesn\u2019t matter. It\u2019s like: \u201cOh, my goodness; that is going to be a challenge,\u201d\u2014and [his] mom and dad instilling that.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I just wonder if you will someday say to him, \u201cYou know, you\u2019re a big, chocolate hunk of future marriage material.\u201d [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I might; it\u2019s possible. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You probably will say that.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I think I will. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There is so much in your book that is applicable for every mother\/son relationship; and yet, so much that I think, for majority culture readers, to read and go, \u201cI\u2019ve never thought about that.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Absolutely.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019ve never stopped to consider what this relationship is like and the uniqueness of it.\u201d I think it gives all of us a better idea of how we support, how we navigate, how we help in this process, how we can learn from one another. I hope our listeners will get a copy of your book, <em>Mother to Son: Letters to a Black Boy on Identity and Hope<\/em>, written by our guest, Jasmine Holmes. We\u2019ve got the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can request a copy of the book from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to get your copy. Again, the title of Jasmine\u2019s book is <em>Mother to Son<\/em>. You can order it when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to order: 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\nBy the way, if you are a regular <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listener, but sometimes you miss hearing us on the radio, you can download the FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app\u2014the brand-new FamilyLife app. It makes it really convenient for you to listen to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> whenever it\u2019s convenient for you. Go to your app store, type in \u201cFamilyLife\u201d as one word, download the new app, and start listening whenever you\u2019d like. Check out the new FamilyLife app when you go to the app store for your phone or your device.\n\nThank you to those of you\u2014who make things like the app, and our website, and this program, and our resources, and our events possible\u2014those of you who support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. You make all that we do happen. You are partnering with us to effectively develop godly marriages and families, because we believe godly marriages and families can change the world one home at a time. We\u2019re grateful for those of you who support this ministry.\n\nIn fact, if you can help with a donation today, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d by sending you a couple of books written by our friends, Matt and Lisa Jacobson. They were on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> earlier this year, talking about how we can more effectively love one another in a marriage relationship. Their books are <em>100 Ways to Love Your Wife<\/em> and <em>100 Ways to Love Your Husband<\/em>\u2014very practical books that we\u2019d love to send your way, again, as a way to say, \u201cThank you for your ongoing support of the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We appreciate you.\u201d You can donate, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com and request the books there; or call to donate: 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\nNow, tomorrow, we\u2019re going to continue a conversation with Jasmine Holmes, talking about raising a black son in a majority white culture\u2014how you help that child understand his identity, which transcends but does not overlook his ethnic background. Jasmine joins us, again, tomorrow. I hope you can tune in for that as well.\n\nI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. 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Holmes knows what strong parenting looks like. But that didn't shield her from the pain of casual prejudice growing up. Now a young mom, she shows her son he is \"fearfully and wonderfully made.\"","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylife.com\/fl2020-10-14.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As a black mother, raising a black son in a majority white culture, Jasmine Holmes says there are a lot of important messages she wants to make sure her son hears from her.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> \u201cYou\u2019re loved; you\u2019re black on purpose. God made your skin for His glory; He made you for His glory. He didn\u2019t make an accident. You are beautiful, because you are fearfully and wonderfully made. Regardless of how the world responds to the way that you\u2019ve been fearfully and wonderfully made, that doesn\u2019t change the truth of the fact that God loves you and cares for you in your brown skin and in your brown body.\u201d\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, October 14<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I\u2019m Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. What\u2019s it like to be a minority family raising your kids in a majority white culture? We\u2019ll spend some time talking with Jasmine Holmes about that today. Stay with us.\n\nAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I would think, if we were having kids, today\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You already had kids, Bob.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I know; I know. [Laughter] We had them in a time that had its challenges, but I would think\u2014\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s very different today.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. If you were a new parent, welcoming a son or a daughter into the world today, you would be thinking, \u201cWhat is ahead? What kind of a world are they going to grow up in?\u201d The issues we\u2019re facing in our culture today are just very challenging.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think it would be challenging to know what conversations to have and how to have them. It\u2019s a real different time. I think it\u2019s important that we have those conversations.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m sort of glad we\u2019re grandparents\u2014[Laughter]\u2014you know?\u2014because we can just sort of take them and then give them back.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cHere is our advice; we\u2019ll see you on the other side.\u201d [Laughter]\n\nWe\u2019ve got a friend joining us; in fact, this is kind of fun\u2014I don\u2019t know if she remembers this\u2014but Jasmine Holmes is joining us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Jasmine, welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Thank you so much for having me.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s a delight to have you. Do you remember the first time you were on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I do remember, actually; yes.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I thought we ought to just revisit that for a second.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> How long ago was it?\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This was more than a decade ago. You were 19 years old; Jasmine\u2019s dad was our guest that day; his name is Voddie Baucham. He had written a book called <em>What He Must Be if He Wants to Marry My Daughter<\/em>. [Laughter] We thought, \u201cWe ought to call Jasmine and just see what she thinks about this book.\u201d Are you ready to hear what you said back when you were19 years old?\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wait; oh, she was 19.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201419 years old. You ready for this? Here we go.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> No; but go ahead. [Laughter]\n\n[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast]\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jasmine, you\u2019re 19 years old, right now; right?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes, sir.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Are you still going to give this book the Jasmine Baucham seal of approval when your 25?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes, sir\u201428, 29, 32.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> If the guys haven\u2019t stepped up, you\u2019re okay with that at 32?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes, sir.\n\n[Studio]\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There you were at 19. Now, you\u2019re 30 years old; right?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, I want to hear this process when your husband Phillip\u2014how old were you when Phillip approached your dad?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I was almost 24\u2014just under 24.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How did that go?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> It was interesting. We met each other at a conference on my 23<sup>rd<\/sup> birthday, and we walked up to him\u2014me and my mom. For my mom, it was love at first sight. [Laughter] She was like elbowing me in the arm, and she goes\u2014and Phillip is going to kill me, but he\u2019s not in here; so he can\u2019t stop me from telling you\u2014she goes, \u201cAre you crazy? Do you not see that tall, chocolate, hunk of marriage material standing right in front of you?\u201d I was like, \u201cOh my! No, I don\u2019t!\u201d\n\nThe first words that Phillip ever said to me were \u201cAre you Voddie Baucham\u2019s daughter?\u201d I was like, \u201cGreat; that\u2019s never going to be a thing. [Laughter]\u00a0 He\u2019s like a Voddie fan, and I don\u2019t want to talk to anybody who is like a Voddie fan.\u201d He wasn\u2019t\u2014I mean, he was\u2014but not in a weird way. He was talking to my dad, because they were going to do an interview together; so he was looking for him, legitimately, not for an autograph. Yes, we kind of\u2014we talked a little bit at that conference.\n\nA year later, we were both in California for different reasons. I saw on Twitter<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> that he was on the same beach that I was on. I was like, \u201cThat\u2019s so funny that we\u2019re both here.\u201d He said, \u201cYes, we should get together; we should get dinner. I\u2019m with a friend,\u201d\u2014who we also know\u2014\u201cWe should all get dinner together.\u201d That night at dinner, I realized that\/I was like, \u201cOkay; maybe, my mom was kind of right. I kind of do like him.\u201d We started talking a little bit afterwards. Yes, we\u2014that was in March that we officially started dating, and then we were married by October.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jasmine is, not only Phillip\u2019s wife and Voddie\u2019s daughter, Jasmine is an author; she\u2019s a mom; she\u2019s a speaker; she\u2019s a podcaster\u2014together with Jackie Hill Perry and Melissa Kruger\u2014they\u2019ve got a podcast. What\u2019s your podcast called?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> It\u2019s called <em>Let\u2019s Talk<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; and it\u2019s a <em>great<\/em> podcast.\n\nShe\u2019s written a book called <em>Mother to Son<\/em>. When you were writing this book, a part of what was the inspiration behind this book is raising a son, who is going to grow up as a minority in a majority white culture. You had no idea that we would be where we are today in that conversation and in all that\u2019s gone on since you wrote the book. Would you change what you\u2019ve written, given where we are today?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think I would. I really think that God gave me grace to talk about things that\u2014truths that were transcendent, regardless of where we were going to be in the next six months to a year. When I started writing it, some other things were going on in the country that, by the time I finished writing it, weren\u2019t really going on anymore.\n\nHopefully, it comes back up; and when it does, this is a helpful book. As a black mother, it\u2019s something we\u2019re always talking about, and I\u2019m always talking about. I had no idea of that a couple of months\/a few months after the book actually came out that more people would be talking about these topics.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Help us understand what black mothers are talking to one another about that we just don\u2019t have a sense of.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I\u2019ll give you a good example. I, the other day, took my son on a play date; and it was kind of rough. My son is\u2014he\u2019s similar to me in that he is like really expressive and really dramatic. Every time he throws a tantrum\u2014or has a crazy, exorcist, head-spinning moment\u2014I\u2019m like, \u201cThose are my genes; I\u2019m sorry.\u201d I took him on a play date, and he was not treated very well by the kids that were at the play date. They kind of knew each other better than they knew him, and they weren\u2019t very nice to him. Then his response was a very\/like level 10 response.\n\nIt was just one of those situations, where I was coming home, and I was just feeling really upset. I ended up talking to some black mom friends of mine and just sharing with them, \u201cHey, it was really hard for me when Wynn acted this way at the play date; because he was the only black kid there. It made me feel like maybe they\u2019ll make assumptions about him, because of the color of his skin,\u201d or \u201cIt made me feel like I really had to stop and separate, \u2018Okay; these kids don\u2019t know him as well. They are not treating him this way because he is black; they are not treating\u2026\u2019\u201d\n\nI just had to like go through all of these mental checklists to make sure that my heart was right\u2014to make sure that I was having expectations of my son that you should normally have of a four-year-old\u2014and not special expectations just because he\u2019s the only black kid in the room. There was just a whole checklist that I went through, that these moms understood uniquely, because they are the things that they are thinking about for their sons all the time.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> At the very beginning, you said, \u201cOne of the reasons I wanted to write to my son, Wynn, was to help him understand, if he feels \u2018other\u2019 because of the color of his skin,\u201d\u2014and you just told a story about that; right? Explain what that feels like for a mother to be able to explain that to her son.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I have learned, as a parent, that oftentimes my parenting comes out of a place of hurt in my life or a place of unresolved things in my life. When I look at my son\u2014and I\u2019m able to kind of see, through his eyes, all of those little childhood wounds that I have\/all the little childhood stuff that I have going on\u2014I just want to speak to him the words that my parents spoke to me, the words that God speaks about me, the words that I wanted to hear\u2014which were that: \u201cYou\u2019re loved; you\u2019re black on purpose. God made your skin for His glory; He made you for His glory. He didn\u2019t make an accident. You are beautiful, because you are fearfully and wonderfully made. Regardless of how the world responds to the way that you\u2019ve been fearfully and wonderfully made, that doesn\u2019t change the truth of the fact that God loves you, and cares for you in your brown skin and in your brown body.\u201d\n\nI think I\u2019m talking to him; but in a way, I\u2019m also\/I\u2019m reminding myself as well.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let\u2019s talk about some of those wounds in your own life, because you get into some of this in your book. Do you remember when you became aware of the fact that your skin was different than other kids\u2019 skin that you were playing with?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes; I was really young. My mom had just given birth to my brother, so I was maybe three\/three-and-a-half, going on four. I was at a daycare center, and I was the only black kid at the daycare center. I would get into fights, like really big scuffles. My mom would come up to school and ask what happened, and I would not be able to really articulate what happened.\n\nOne day, she came up to the school because I had sprained my arm, running away from a little boy on a playset\/fell off of the top of the playset; arm was sprained. Finally, the entire story came out, which is that the kids were calling me the n-word, calling me a monkey, chasing me around the playground. In my little three-year-old brain, I didn\u2019t know quite what that word meant; I didn\u2019t know quite what those things meant, but I knew that it meant that I was different. I knew enough to feel shame to where I didn\u2019t want to tell my mom what they were saying about me.\n\nIt\u2019s sad that it was a negative experience\u2014the first time that I realized that I was different\u2014but that was definitely it.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Well, you know, I read that story last night. I teared up for you, as a little girl. Yet, I also was amazed at\u2014was it your mom or your grandma that went back and said, \u201cWe\u2019re not doing this\u201d?\u2014she stood up for you.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> My mom.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That was your mom that went back there; yes.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Talk about that. If this happens to Wynn, or one of your sons, how are you going to respond?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> It\u2019s one of my best memories, because my parents are\u2014like a lot of Christian parents\u2014when we get into a fight, or we get into a scrape, they come up, and they are like, \u201cWell, what did you do, Jasmine? I realize that he hit you. What did you do first?\u201d or \u201cI realize that you\u2019re not getting along with this teacher, but what have you done?\u201d\n\nThere are a few key memories in my life, where my mom just was complete and total mamma bear. That was the first one that I remember of her just kind of grabbing my arm and talking to the teacher. I don\u2019t remember what she said, but I just remember like a whole lot of hands flying and a whole lot of just very expressive\u2014I never went back again. It just made me feel so safe and protected. That\u2019s a feeling I want to duplicate for my son at any opportunity.\n\nI hope that I never have to live through that, as a mother; but on the receiving end, as a child, my mom just showed me a great deal of love in that moment and kind of embodied what it means to be a mom\u2014right?\u2014to protect your child.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You\u2019re four years old, and you\u2019re really the victim of racism on a playground. Did you experience a lot that, growing up?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I didn\u2019t experience a lot of outright racism, growing up. I experienced a lot of casual prejudice, growing up.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What does that look like?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Just little things of, you know, when I was a teenager\u2014I\u2019ll start before that. The first boy that I ever had a crush on\u2014it is so funny. When I was getting married, I was moving out, and I have had the same furniture in my bedroom since I was, like, six years old. I was clearing out the back of a drawer, and I found a Valentine from my very first crush.\n\nI was like, \u201cOh, this is so funny.\u201d Phillip was like, \u201cWho is this guy?!\u201d\u2014you know, being kind of silly. He said, \u201cYou know\u201d\u2014he\u2019s asking me for this story. I was like, \u201cActually, I didn\u2019t remember, until you asked me this story, that I told a friend that \u2018I like this boy.\u2019 I was nine; and he told the nine-year-old boy that: \u201cJasmine really likes you.\u201d The nine-year-old boy kind of looks at me and he goes, \u201cOh, no, that\u2019s gross. I don\u2019t like black girls; they\u2019re not pretty.\u201d My very first like, \u201cOh, I feel butterflies about this boy,\u201d thing, ended like that.\n\nThere were just a lot of little things like that of, you know: \u201cYour hair is not very pretty. It\u2019s really frizzy,\u201d or \u201cYour skin looks weird,\u201d\u2014you know, just little things. Then, as a teenager, just lots of questions, that weren\u2019t motivated by a heart of racism, I don\u2019t think, but made me uncomfortable sometimes, or made me feel different, or made me feel \u201cother\u201d; but nothing as outright as that.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> As you talk about that, I\u2019m thinking about the fact that those of us, who are a part of a majority culture\u2014we didn\u2019t have the experience of feeling \u201cother\u201d or feeling different because we are part of the majority culture.\n\nIs it front-of-mind for someone, who is in a minority culture? Is it something that is kind of always present there: \u201cI\u2019m different than the other people in this room\u201d?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes; I think it\u2019s always in the back of the mind; right? It may not always be right up at the forefront; but it is something that\u2014as a black child, growing up in a [white] majority culture\u2014when I was in private school, my parents did talk to me differently. I distinctly remember my mom having conversations with me and saying, \u201cJasmine, when you act out in these ways, it is not the same as when your white friends act out. When you do \u2018x,\u2019 it is not the same as when your white friends do \u2018x,\u2019\u201d\u2014so almost being held to higher standard in wanting to be exemplary; because I was the only black person, and often, person of color in a room.\n\nAlso, just\/you know, people\u2014I always joke that everybody talks about the white people, with the one black friend\u2014that was me. All of those stories, involving the one black friend\u2014I have some version of those stories for sure. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Did you feel that, as well, in the church\/in the community?\u2014because I know that you\/I think your dad was at a church that was predominately white. Did you feel pressure there as well?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> Yes; I just felt different. I was homeschooled, so most of my social interactions in that junior\/high school age range were at church with young people from my church.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> When you write a book, it\u2019s part of you\u2014especially this\u2014if you\u2019re writing it to your son. It\u2019s your passion\/is what you\u2019re bleeding. As you were writing it, what were you hoping, like, \u201cOh, I just want you\u2026\u201d\u2014like what was going on in your mind as you were writing this?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I wanted him, and really everybody who read the book, to feel <em>seen<\/em>. I think that\u2019s such a <em>huge<\/em> piece of identity, which I love to write about anything having to do with identity\u2014motherhood, womanhood, being a black woman, being an American\u2014all those things that kind of go into the pie of who you are.\n\nAs I was writing to my son, and to the church at large, I just wanted people to feel seen and understood\/to feel something that they could connect to\u2014because even if you\u2019re not a black mother\u2014most of us have an experience of a mother\u2019s love. A lot of us have children; we\u2019re supposed to be a family of faith; so this is a sister of faith writing a familial story. I wanted it to be familiar and to feel like we were connected.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Jasmine, there is phrase that is used today that describes a lot of what you\u2019ve described for us here. People will talk about experiencing micro-aggressions\u2014I\u2019ve heard that phrase\u2014and part of me is like: \u201cWell, doesn\u2019t the Bible say you just overlook that stuff and kind of move on?\u201d or \u201cIs this something that we should be more alert to, and more sensitive to, and be dealing with?\u201d\n\nHow do you process the whole idea of micro-aggressions? And as you think about your son, who will undoubtedly experience some of those, growing up, will you coach him to just: \u201cIt\u2019s a man\u2019s glory to overlook an offense,\u201d or will you say, \u201cNo; you need to stand up for yourself in these situations\u201d?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I guess it depends on the offense. I think that there can be a couple of different categories of micro-aggressions, which is not a term I like to use. I tend to stay away from some of those hot button terms, because I feel like they are really loaded; and people kind of immediately have this gut reaction to them.\n\nBut there may be one category of person, who is literally just asking a question; because they want to know the answer to it; right? I have had friends, who ask me all the time about my hair; or \u201cDo I have to wear sunscreen?\u201d or \u201cDo I have\u2026\u201d\u2014you know those questions, in some people\u2019s minds, could be construed as micro-aggressions. In my mind, it\u2019s: \u201cPeople are curious; people want to know. I understand; I get it.\u201d\n\nBut sometimes, people say things that are rooted in assumptions; or sometimes people say things that are rooted in prejudices. I don\u2019t feel it is loving to let a person continue in that kind of thought process. I don\u2019t think that it\u2019s loving not to shed light on something that a person may not know. It might be the difference between assuming that a person means you ill or, maybe, just saying, \u201cHey, I don\u2019t know if you realize that what you said could be offensive; I did feel a little bit offended. I would love to talk to you about why. Would you be open to that?\u201d\n\nI\u2019ve had several of those conversations, as an adult. Most of them have ended really well. It\u2019s always awkward; but I think it\u2019s important to love people by shedding light on areas where they can love you better and being open to when people want to shed light on how you can love them better as well.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> To do that, when you\u2019re 30 years old, is different than when you are 7 years old. There\u2019s something that happens that\u2019s a sliding or\u2014when your son\u2014I\u2019m just imagining that your son is the last one picked on whatever sports team, because his skin different; and people just have a prejudice or think there is something wrong with him. How will you train a seven-year-old to deal with that kind of a sense of slight or being acknowledged as different? What will you tell him he ought to do in that moment?\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> In that moment, I honestly don\u2019t know; because my son is four. I do think it\u2019s really important for me, at this stage of Wynn\u2019s life, to kind of frontload helpful truth into him\u2014so he knows that he is brown; he knows that God made him brown on purpose; he knows that that\u2019s beautiful\u2014in fact, you say, \u201cWynn, you\u2019re so handsome.\u201d He goes, \u201cI know.\u201d I\u2019m just like, \u201cSay, \u2018Thank you.\u2019\u201d [Laughter] It\u2019s like that thoughtful, like, \u201cYes,\u201d\u2014he\u2019s nodding, like\u2014\u201cI know; I know.\u201d [Laughter] So he knows\/he knows that about himself.\n\nI am more concerned, at this point in his life, with solidifying his identity than I am with teaching him all of the ins and outs of advocating for himself; because that\u2019s going to come with time. \u201cHow does any child advocate for themselves?\u201d\u2014\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014right.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> \u2014right?\u2014\u201cHow does any child learn how to say, \u2018No\u2019?\u201d \u201cHow does any child learn about bodily autonomy?\u201d \u201cHow does any child learn\u2026\u201d\u2014it all just comes from practice; and in my case, as a 30-year-old mother, a lot of it comes from trial and error.\n\nMy concern, at this point of his life\/at this point of his understanding, is just teaching him who he is and how he\u2019s fearfully and wonderfully made. As those other things come up, in a developmentally-appropriate way, just kind of saying, like my mom did, \u201cThis is not your fault. You are beautiful. God made you brown on purpose.\u201d\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What you\u2019re saying is so insightful\u2014because as he turns 10, 12, 14,16, he may say, \u201cI know,\u201d when you ask him that question\u2014I think, inside, though, there is going to be a doubt; because he is hearing all these other people say\u2014and you\u2019re planting a foundation that\u2019s going to be so critical in the years to come\u2014whether that\u2019s a white boy or a black\u2014it doesn\u2019t matter. It\u2019s like: \u201cOh, my goodness; that is going to be a challenge,\u201d\u2014and [his] mom and dad instilling that.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I just wonder if you will someday say to him, \u201cYou know, you\u2019re a big, chocolate hunk of future marriage material.\u201d [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I might; it\u2019s possible. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You probably will say that.\n\n<strong>Jasmine:<\/strong> I think I will. [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There is so much in your book that is applicable for every mother\/son relationship; and yet, so much that I think, for majority culture readers, to read and go, \u201cI\u2019ve never thought about that.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Absolutely.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019ve never stopped to consider what this relationship is like and the uniqueness of it.\u201d I think it gives all of us a better idea of how we support, how we navigate, how we help in this process, how we can learn from one another. I hope our listeners will get a copy of your book, <em>Mother to Son: Letters to a Black Boy on Identity and Hope<\/em>, written by our guest, Jasmine Holmes. We\u2019ve got the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can request a copy of the book from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to get your copy. Again, the title of Jasmine\u2019s book is <em>Mother to Son<\/em>. You can order it when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to order: 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\nBy the way, if you are a regular <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listener, but sometimes you miss hearing us on the radio, you can download the FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> app\u2014the brand-new FamilyLife app. It makes it really convenient for you to listen to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> whenever it\u2019s convenient for you. Go to your app store, type in \u201cFamilyLife\u201d as one word, download the new app, and start listening whenever you\u2019d like. Check out the new FamilyLife app when you go to the app store for your phone or your device.\n\nThank you to those of you\u2014who make things like the app, and our website, and this program, and our resources, and our events possible\u2014those of you who support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. You make all that we do happen. You are partnering with us to effectively develop godly marriages and families, because we believe godly marriages and families can change the world one home at a time. We\u2019re grateful for those of you who support this ministry.\n\nIn fact, if you can help with a donation today, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d by sending you a couple of books written by our friends, Matt and Lisa Jacobson. They were on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> earlier this year, talking about how we can more effectively love one another in a marriage relationship. Their books are <em>100 Ways to Love Your Wife<\/em> and <em>100 Ways to Love Your Husband<\/em>\u2014very practical books that we\u2019d love to send your way, again, as a way to say, \u201cThank you for your ongoing support of the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We appreciate you.\u201d You can donate, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com and request the books there; or call to donate: 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\nNow, tomorrow, we\u2019re going to continue a conversation with Jasmine Holmes, talking about raising a black son in a majority white culture\u2014how you help that child understand his identity, which transcends but does not overlook his ethnic background. Jasmine joins us, again, tomorrow. I hope you can tune in for that as well.\n\nI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. 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