{"id":306378,"date":"2020-08-31T07:00:05","date_gmt":"2020-08-31T11:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/lets-pray\/"},"modified":"2020-08-31T07:00:05","modified_gmt":"2020-08-31T11:00:05","slug":"lets-pray","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/lets-pray\/","title":{"rendered":"Let&#8217;s Pray!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>No one should say they are not mature enough to share the gospel of Jesus Christ with another person, according to Holly Melton. Author of the book &#8220;Praying With Your Kids Before School.&#8221; Holly says it&#8217;s never too early (or late) for a parent to begin talking to their children about faith in God. She describes the many creative ways to engage children with biblical principles at an early age and to be intentional about praying with them before school.<\/p>\n<p>Show Notes and Resources<\/p>\n<p> \tFind resources from this podcast at https:\/\/shop.familylife.com\/Products.aspx?categoryid=95.<br \/>\n \tCheck out all that&#8217;s available on the FamilyLife Podcast Network.\u00a0 https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/familylife-podcast-network\/<br \/>\n \tHave the FamilyLife Today\u00ae podcast and resources helped you?\u00a0 Consider becoming a Legacy Partner, a monthly supporter of FamilyLife.\u00a0https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/legacy<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Holly Melton says it&#8217;s never too early (or late) for a parent to begin talking to their children about faith in God. 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You need to be praying together with your kids to start the day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> What I try to encourage people\u2014this is five minutes of your day\u2014but it can be the most crucial five minutes; because when we start our day with God, our perspective on everything we\u2019re going to experience that day could change. I encourage parents: \u201cWake up five or ten minutes earlier, even if you\u2019re not a morning person, and pray that <em>you\u2019re<\/em> filled with the Spirit as you try to do this with your children. He will give <em>you<\/em> the strength to have the patience to be able to do this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Monday, August 31<sup>st<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. You\u2019ll find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. Back to school probably looks a lot different for all of this year, but there are some things that ought not be different. We\u2019re going to talk about those today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I think just about every mom I\u2019ve ever known, who\u2019s got kids at home, has in her a desire to want to plant deep in the heart of her kids spiritual truth. It\u2019s just: \u201cHow do I do that?\u201d\u2014that is the obstacle. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou had that passion.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Absolutely! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh boy, she had that passion. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> But I didn\u2019t grow up in a Christian home; I had never seen it done\u2014but in my heart, I\u2019m like, \u201cI want to do this! I want to do this! How do I do this?\u201d I had no idea. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think you\u2019re right, Bob\u2014I think women: when you love Jesus, you want to impart that into your kids. But you\u2019re not always sure how. It\u2019s crazy; you don\u2019t have a plan, so I think we\u2019re looking for that plan. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is one of those times of the year when\u2014I think beginning of the new year and the beginning of the school year\u2014are the two times in the year where we all look and go, \u201cOkay, we can start some new patterns, some new habits, some new disciplines.\u201d Of course, this is the weirdest back-to-school time ever; but you can establish some new rhythms\/some new patterns. That\u2019s part of what we want to talk about today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We need somebody to help us! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So you have somebody in mind?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I think somebody; she\u2019s sitting across the table. Holly Melton is here\u2014written a book called <em>Praying with Your Kids Before School<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Holly, welcome. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Thank you; thanks for having me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> She\u2019s been on Cru<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> staff\u2014I don\u2019t even know how many years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Twenty-one years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Twenty-one?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And what have you done on Cru staff?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Oh, I have gotten to travel the world to help missionaries that are in team conflict around the world. I have been to actually 30 countries\u2014got to serve in East Asia, saw a revival happen there; served up at UC Berkley; I\u2019ve been a national director with Cru; but now I am happily on a staff team, quietly in Phoenix, Arizona, while I\u2019m raising my kids, and continuing to write and speak on the side. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Your kids are what ages?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Five and six. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So you\u2019re right at the beginning edge of this journey. God\u2019s put a burden in your heart to want to plant truth in their hearts and to point them to Jesus every day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; it\u2019s always been my passion. My background is marriage and family therapy; but then I went into college ministry after I saw a vampire come to Christ, which is a whole other story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Whoa, whoa, whoa. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You <em>can\u2019t<\/em> just <em>drop<\/em> that one in. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly: <\/strong>That\u2019s\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> There are real vampires?\u2014and you led someone to Christ?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Okay; well, I was just a college student; and I was on my first summer mission. We were out singing songs on the boardwalk. This girl approached me very awkwardly and uncomfortably. She said, \u201cI\u2019m a vampire. Are you afraid of me?\u201d I thought, \u201cWho thinks that they\u2019re a vampire?!\u201d\u2014like\u2014\u201cReally?!\u201d This is way before <em>Twilight<\/em> and <em>Vampire Diaries<\/em>. I\u2019m like, \u201cThis is really weird.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cSure; I\u2019ll talk with a vampire.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI sit down with her; she says nothing. This is when I start to pray; I\u2019m like, \u201cGod, You\u2019ve got to show me\u201d; because my training is: you share your testimony or the \u201cKnowing God Personally\u201d tract booklet that Cru has. \u201cDoes that work with a vampire?\u201d [Laughter] So I felt like the Holy Spirit was saying, \u201cWhy don\u2019t you ask her why she\u2019s a vampire?\u201d She said, \u201cI have tried to kill myself three times, and I haven\u2019t been able to die.\u201d She says, \u201cI actually drink blood of animals I sacrifice, and I believe that\u2019s what makes me clean.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo then, I said, \u201cGod, what\u2019s another question?\u201d The question that came to my mind is: \u201cWhat brings you purpose or significance in life?\u201d She said, \u201cI\u2019ve actually brought 12 women into being vampires with me that had no home, no community, no friends; and so we have a family.\u201d I thought, \u201cOkay; that is one little thing I can connect with\u2014is caring for women in community\u201d; because even in college, I was doing a women\u2019s Bible study, discipling some women. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI felt like the Holy Spirit gave me a contrary idea than how I was raised; because I was raised in the apologetics generation, where you <em>defend<\/em> the truth. I felt like the Holy Spirit\u2019s idea was, \u201cAffirm partial truths to create common ground.\u201d I said to her\/I said, \u201cChristy, in a sense, I think you\u2019re right. We <em>are<\/em> immortal; there is life after death. Blood is necessary; sacrifice is essential. <em>And<\/em> we were made for community. You are <em>right<\/em>. But I don\u2019t think you know the whole story. Do I have <em>permission<\/em> to share with you the whole story?\u201d She said, \u201cYes.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI thought, \u201cNow what do I say?\u201d I felt like I was watching myself as God was speaking through me. All of a sudden, I\u2019m sharing how Jesus is the Lamb of God, and He is the final sacrifice that will take away the sins of the world. No more animals need to be sacrificed. I got to share how He wants communion with us and community with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI go through the whole gospel; and I am so convinced she is going to say, \u201cYes.\u201d She goes, \u201cNo, I don\u2019t need Jesus in my life right now.\u201d She then says\u2014it\u2019s now two in the morning\u2014she goes, \u201cBut the buses have stopped working. Can you give me a ride home?\u201d I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWho wants to give a vampire a ride home at two in the morning?\u2014not me!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s dark out! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> So I figured I should bring a friend. He was driving; I\u2019m in the front seat; she\u2019s in the back. We are driving on a deserted highway; and all of a sudden, in the back, she starts knocking on the window, like this [knocking sound]\u2014constant eerie knock. Again, I asked a question; I said, \u201cChristy, why are you knocking on the window?\u201d She said, \u201cI feel like something is knocking at my heart, but I don\u2019t know what it is.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> No way! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> \u201cThat\u2019s Revelation 3:20: \u2018Behold, I stand at the door and knock.\u2019 Jesus is saying: \u2018Anyone who opens the door, I will come in I will dine with him; I will be his friend. I want fellowship.\u2019\u201d I said, \u201cChristy, I believe that\u2019s Jesus. He wants in your life!\u201d Then she says, \u201cI\u2019m hungry and thirsty for something, but I don\u2019t know what\u201d; yes. Now, in college, didn\u2019t remember those verses\u2014but I knew a worship song\u2014because I was an alto on the worship team.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> There you go! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> I told her the verse: \u201cI want to thirst no more; I want to hunger no more. I want to know that Jesus is my Lord.\u201d She goes, \u201cWill you sing it for me?\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cAt two-thirty in the morning, you want me to sing to you?\u2014okay.\u201d I\u2019m awkwardly, now, singing a song to her in the car. She goes, \u201cPull over, on the side of the road, right now. In case I die before I get home, I want Jesus in my life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI pull out a tract; because I\u2019m like, \u201cI don\u2019t know what I really said to you a few hours ago.\u201d She\u2019s like, \u201cNo, no. Get to the end. I want Jesus in my life right now.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cGet to the end.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> She like prays. Honestly, in my heart, I was doubtful. I said, \u201cChristy, if this is real, meet me at noon tomorrow; and we\u2019re going to talk about what this means.\u201d The next day at noon, she showed up; she\u2019s walking toward me. She\u2019s far enough away you probably shouldn\u2019t say, \u201cHi,\u201d yet. She starts screaming: \u201cHolly! Holly! I want to learn how to share my faith like you shared with me.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cLet\u2019s go on the boardwalk and let\u2019s go see what God does. Let\u2019s go <em>do<\/em> this with God.\u201d We approach a 15-year-old blonde surfer dude, named Mark. He asked a great question\u2014he said, \u201cHow do you know you\u2019re different when you\u2019re a Christian?\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, man,\u201d\u2014my testimony is I was saved as a little kid\u2014\u201cHow do I answer that?\u201d She interrupts and goes, \u201cWell, Mark; yesterday I was a vampire; [Laughter] but today, I\u2019m a born-again Christian; and boy! Do I see the difference!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe goes, \u201cMark, did you know that we\u2019re all immortal? Did you know that blood is necessary, sacrifice is essential, and we were made for community? Can I tell you how?\u201d She proceeded to share with him the same presentation I shared the night before, that I thought was only contextualized for a vampire.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe prays and receives Christ, right there on the boardwalk, same area she did. She was not even a 12-hour believer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly: <\/strong>That convicts me: \u201cNo one should say they\u2019re not mature enough in Christ to be able to share Christ with someone else.\u201d It shows me that <em>none<\/em> of us may be prepared to share the gospel. <em>I<\/em> was not prepared to share the gospel; and yet, that is what transformed my life to be passionate about sharing Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Didn\u2019t you find out something about her dad later?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; her dad ended up\/he was a Christian. I was at the airport, flying back home. I met a kind woman; she was asking about my summer. I told her the story of what I call \u201cChristy, the Vampire.\u201d She brings her husband over; and he says, \u201cWhat\u2019s her name?\u201d I said, \u201cChristy Denney.\u201d He said, \u201cHer father goes to our church. We have been praying for her for <em>five years<\/em>. We have not been able to get her into a church. Now that we know she\u2019s a believer, we\u2019re going to disciple her.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat\u2019s amazing is this pastor and his wife took her in. She ended up sharing the gospel with those 12 women to the point where the head leader said, \u201cIf you do this anymore, I will take your life.\u201d He was threatening her life, so she literally moved in with the pastor and his wife that I met at the airport for her protection and her discipleship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cGod, I have never seen someone go from darkness to light to full transformation. I want to do nothing else with my life but share Jesus with others.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I can see why you\u2019d say law school would be pretty boring after that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I can also see, as you talk about her dad and the pastor praying, and they\u2019re seeing their prayers answered. It\u2019s five years; at some point, you even give up. There\u2019s a dad, there\u2019s a pastor, there\u2019s probably a community\u2014which sounds weird\u2014they\u2019re praying for a vampire daughter. You listened to Jesus; the Holy Spirit spoke into her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s, obviously now, as a mom, an angst in your soul about praying; right?\u2014especially praying for your kids. Tell us why you wrote a book about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; there are two verses in the Bible that have really hit my heart on this. One is \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tProverbs 22:6\u2014it says: \u201cTrain up a child in the way he should go. Even when he is old, he will not depart from it.\u201d This verse is not meant to necessarily to be a full-on promise\u2014that as much as we are faithful to invest in our children, spiritually, some might become prodigals\u2014we need to trust God with those prodigals. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe need to think about our responsibility as parents. Our responsibility is to train. We cannot control the outcome of our children\u2019s faith, but we can control our intentionality with them. If there\u2019s one thing I\u2019m really passionate about, it\u2019s about: \u201cGod wants us to be intentional people in all areas of our life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe second verse in the Bible that really impacted me is Deuteronomy 6:5 and 7\u2014it says this: \u201cYou shall love the Lord God with all of your heart, and with all of your soul, and with all of your might,\u201d and \u201cThese words I command to you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk to them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI started praying, \u201cHow do I live this out practically?\u201d I wanted to really meditate on this verse and be proactive. The first thing that stuck out to me in this verse is <em>we<\/em> are responsible to love God with all our heart. If <em>we\u2019re<\/em> not walking with the Lord\u2014if <em>we\u2019re<\/em> not being in His Word and being obedient to Him\u2014we <em>cannot<\/em> impact, train, disciple, and influence our children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSecond, it says to teach them <em>diligently<\/em>. I believe that means we need to help them understand the Word, even when they\u2019re very young. My personal opinion\u2014and yes, I only have two young kids\u2014is: \u201cWhen they start to walk, we can start to talk to them about God, sin, Jesus, our need for a Savior. They\u2019re not going to fully grasp it, but we begin the conversation.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we need to talk when we\u2019re at home. I think home needs to be a safe place\u2014right?\u2014for our children. We live in a fast-paced culture, and we\u2019re rushing from one thing to the next. Honestly, we\u2019ve become more task-oriented than people-oriented. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What did that look like for you in terms of\u2014here you are\u2014a young mom; you have little kids, and they\u2019re only a year apart?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s crazy; moms listening are like, \u201cI have hardly time to eat, let alone disciple my kids.\u201d Even for your own personal time, that can be hard; because before you had kids, you had time to read your Bible; and then you have kids, and it gets a lot tougher.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; when they\u2019re first born, yes, you don\u2019t get your normal quiet time if you\u2019re used to that. I would take a proverb a day, and say, \u201cI\u2019m going to meditate on this while I\u2019m in my tired state for the first three months of a child\u2019s life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI do think there has to be, at some point, where we continue a spiritual discipline, even with young children. Once they got on a sleep schedule, I started to make it the norm that they weren\u2019t going to be coming downstairs until 7:00 a.m. We got one of those lights that light up at seven o\u2019clock; they know they can come downstairs. I condition them to do that. Even at five and six, they will pretty much will stay in their room. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAt a young age, I decided to start giving them resources to have a quiet time like mommy. They can\u2019t read yet. I got them a Bible\u2014it\u2019s a kids\u2019 Bible storybook to color\u2014it\u2019s not a coloring book; it\u2019s an actual Bible, but so many of the pages they can color. Their quiet time is coloring. Then, I read them the story after they color the picture; so they started to have their own quiet time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOnce my son started learning how to read\u2014they could read the word, \u201cGod\u201d\u2014so he started to highlight the word, \u201cGod,\u201d all throughout the Bible; because mommy highlights in her Bible. I\u2019m just starting to give them principles, as little kids, to help them think about, \u201cWhat would it\u00a0 look like to have a quiet time like Mommy and Daddy?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m just amazed they don\u2019t come down until 7:00 a.m. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Are you still stuck on that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m like, \u201cWow! That\u2019s a disciplined child!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> People are going, \u201cIf I could just train my kids on that, that\u2019s all I need!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; I am more of a structured parent, so that does help. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One of the things that you\u2019re passionate about is praying <em>with<\/em> your kids, getting them in this practice. What you\u2019ve developed in the book is an outline\/a map that moms and dads can follow so that this can become a regular practice in their home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; it was literally the week before school started this past year that God gave me this idea: \u201cLet\u2019s be intentional to pray with them.\u201d Because now both of my kids were going to go to preschool and kindergarten. I invited 18 of my friends to join me; I said, \u201cDo you want to join me this year and pray through a verse every day with your child before they go to school?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI started to ask God, \u201cWhat are topics that children need to think about as they go to school?\u201d\u2014topics like authority, respect, friends, anxiety, fear, being courageous on that first week. I looked up all the verses on that word and I chose five that I thought most would relate to the child as they go to school. I have two verses\u2014one is the actual verse in the Bible for an older child, and then they get to pray through that verse. Then, I paraphrase the verse in the Bible for a younger child, like mine, that might not know some bigger words so that they, too, could start to understand principles in the Bible but maybe not the exact verse. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy friends and I did this for a whole year. It became very, very impactful on\u2014not only my children\u2019s life\u2014but their children\u2019s lives as well. We decided, \u201cMaybe this would be helpful for other families to start implementing.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What did this look like? Take us through: \u201cIs this at the breakfast table in the morning?\u2014on the way to school? When are you doing it? How are you doing it?\u201d\u2014just give us a picture.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> What I try to encourage people\u2014this is five minutes of your day\u2014but it can be the most crucial five minutes because, when we start our day with God, our perspective on everything that we\u2019re going to experience that day could change. I encourage parents: \u201cWake up five or ten minutes earlier, even if you\u2019re not a morning person, and pray that <em>you\u2019re<\/em> filled with the Spirit as you try to do this with your children. He will give <em>you<\/em> the strength to have the patience to be able to do this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of my friends would do this at the breakfast table before they started homeschooling. Some of my friends would, literally, do it, standing up at the front door; and they would then lay their hands on their kids and commission them off to school as if they are being \u201csent ones\u201d to school every single day. I, myself, would drive my children to school\u2014about ten minutes to school. We would read it and pray as we were heading to school in the car. I think any idea would work; it\u2019s just the idea of being intentional and being consistent. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> With your kids, you\u2019d get them buckled in\u2014and before you start the car\u2014I presume you\u2019re not reading the Bible verses as you\u2019re driving.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Right; true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019d read these Bible verses; and then would you pray, and they pray? Is that how\u2014what would it feel like?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; we would all three pray. Honestly, with little kids\u2014or any age\u2014they might start to feel like, \u201cI don\u2019t want to pray today\u201d; right? It\u2019s not like they\u2019re robots, and they\u2019re going to just do it. There were some days that became the discipleship moment of saying: \u201cLet\u2019s talk about that. Why do you think we want to pray to God before we go to school? How do you think that would help us? That\u2019s <em>your<\/em> choice. I\u2019m not, as the parent, going to force you to pray. But I know my life changes when I get to pray to God before I start my day.\u201d\u00a0 Or I would ask the other child to pray first; then, the second child, \u201cOkay; I want to pray.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSometimes, it\u2019s just even getting into the rhythm. Our rhythm became so much so that, a few weeks in, I forgot the paper at home. My son said, \u201cMommy, how could you forget the Bible verse for the day?!\u201d The next day, \u201cMommy, don\u2019t forget the Bible verse.\u201d Next day, \u201cMommy, don\u2019t forget the Bible verse.\u201d Then, what started happening, in our evening prayers with our family, our son would start to say, \u201cGod, help me to obey the Bible verse tomorrow.\u201d He knew a Bible verse was coming, and his heart was starting to change: \u201cHelp me to obey the Bible verse tomorrow.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat I liked about it, too, is\u2014since it was a theme for the week\u2014it gave us context to talk about a bigger topic in the Bible over the week\u2014not just a verse for the day and then tomorrow\u2019s verse is a difference topic\u2014we got to focus on something, which really helped them grow in that area. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> The theme would be\u2014let\u2019s say, \u201cCourage\u201d\u2014the theme of the week is \u201cCourage.\u201d Each morning you have a different verse on courage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s interesting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> \u2014and how they could pray through it. Especially when you think it is the first week\u2014because they\u2019re meeting new teachers; new friends; new school, maybe\u2014this year, it\u2019s going to be new situations.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly: <\/strong>Yes; it\u2019s helping them be courageous as they step into\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> How did the mothers or families that had teenagers\u2014how\u2019d that go for them? Did you hear stories?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly: <\/strong>I did! I will leave them nameless. I had a sixth grader come swim in our pool just two weeks ago. His mom said, \u201cThis [Holly] is the one who wrote all those prayers for that devotional.\u201d He goes, \u201cWow!\u201d He goes, \u201cThose were really <em>good<\/em>.\u201d He goes, \u201cThey were better than my dad\u2019s,\u201d\u2014his dad is our children\u2019s pastor\u2014[Laughter]\u2014I was like, \u201cDon\u2019t tell your dad that, but thank you.\u201d That gave me courage, because that\u2019s a different age group than my little children. It seemed that he, as a boy sixth-grader, really enjoyed it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know I have another woman\u2014her daughter is 11\u2014looked forward to it every day. She had bullying happening in her school; she had to deal with a lot of really hard situations. Her mom said going through these prayers helped give her a foundation before she went into some very difficult situations for the year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I can imagine\u2014you asked about teenagers\u2014I can imagine, with younger kids, there is some excitement and anticipation. In those years, they are kind of hanging on every word we say. You start doing this with a 14-year-old\u2014you know, you haven\u2019t done this\u2014you say, \u201cWe\u2019re going to start praying on the way to school and a Bible verse\u2026\u201d They\u2019re kind of like, \u201cWhatever,\u201d and roll their eyes. Should a parent just power through that and keep going?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; I think so. I think it\u2019s never too late to encourage spiritual disciplines with our children and to model them ourselves. What I would do\u2014if you have a middle schooler or high schooler\u2014saying\/make it an exciting thing\u2014like: \u201cHey, I want to grow in God together. I want us to be united in doing something that will help us both understand the Bible and live it out. Can we please try this? Let\u2019s try it for a month, and let\u2019s see if it impacts our life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou don\u2019t have to commit them or force them to do it for a year; but say, \u201cCould we try this together and see if this, not only bonds us, but helps us to become greater influences around us?\u201d You\u2019re kind of in it together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m imagining Ann Wilson hearing this conversation, back a few years ago when you still had kids at home, you\u2019d be going, \u201cI\u2019m getting <em>five<\/em> copies of that book.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I totally would, [Laughter] because I was doing it on the fly. What I\u2019ve seen, too, with high school and middle school kids\u2014they\u2019re still soaking it in. They may roll their eyes sometimes, or generally be quiet; but what I\u2019ve found was: kids in high school are going through hard things; middle school is <em>rough<\/em>. It\u2019s interesting\u2014because they\u2019re so desperate, that they\u2019ll take God\u2019s Word, and they\u2019re kind of clinging to it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of our sons was going through some stuff. I would take these little flat rocks that I found, and I would write a Bible verse on it. He would have it in his pocket all day. I would say, \u201cHey, when it gets rough, pull that verse out: \u2018Lord, help me. This is what\u2019s going on.\u2019 Pray this verse; this maybe will help you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen would come the next week\u2014or something else was going on\u2014he\u2019s like, \u201cHey, do you have another <em>rock<\/em>?\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cWhat?\u201d Then, he said, \u201cMy friend in track needs one. He\u2019s really stressing about the meet tonight.\u201d I\u2019d write this little verse on this rock. I saw that guy, probably a couple years ago when he was 27; he said, \u201cMrs. Wilson, I want to tell you\u2014that Scripture you put on that rock was like my lifeline for the year.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe think kids aren\u2019t interested at that age. Those kids are going through <em>rough<\/em> stuff, and God\u2019s Word is a comfort and a stabilizer to their souls. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And to have a plan prepared for them\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s the part that\u2019s so good! It\u2019s done for us already. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014all you have to do is follow the instructions. It\u2019s like a spiritual cookbook with your kids: \u201cHere\u2019s the recipe.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd again, to your point\u2014there\u2019s no guarantee that the cake\u2019s going to turn out the way you want it to turn out\u2014there is not a promise from Proverbs; but there is a principle here in Proverbs that, when we \u201cTrain up a child in the way he should go,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s our job\u2014and God is going to meet us there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Thanks for the intentionality. It\u2019s a tool that helps parents, that maybe aren\u2019t necessarily intentional, to be intentional: \u201cHere you go! Follow the plan!\u201d\u2014how hard is that?\u2014\u201cAnd see what God does.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And the moms and dads, who are just like Ann Wilson, and want five copies of the book, [Laughter] go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com to order copies. In fact, what we\u2019re doing this week\u2014we\u2019re going to send you a copy\u2014any <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listener, who can make a donation to help support the ongoing work of this ministry\u2014Holly\u2019s book, <em>Praying with Your Kids Before School,<\/em> is our gift to you\/our way of saying, \u201cThank you for your support of this ministry.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo here\u2019s the deal\u2014you\u2019re helping reach hundreds of thousands of people every day with practical biblical help and hope for their marriage and family by supporting <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. As a thank-you gift, you get Holly\u2019s book, <em>Praying with Your Kids Before School<\/em>. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to make an online donation, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY; donate over the phone. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com if you\u2019d like to donate online. 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It\u2019s crazy; you don\u2019t have a plan, so I think we\u2019re looking for that plan. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is one of those times of the year when\u2014I think beginning of the new year and the beginning of the school year\u2014are the two times in the year where we all look and go, \u201cOkay, we can start some new patterns, some new habits, some new disciplines.\u201d Of course, this is the weirdest back-to-school time ever; but you can establish some new rhythms\/some new patterns. That\u2019s part of what we want to talk about today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We need somebody to help us! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So you have somebody in mind?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I think somebody; she\u2019s sitting across the table. Holly Melton is here\u2014written a book called <em>Praying with Your Kids Before School<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Holly, welcome. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Thank you; thanks for having me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> She\u2019s been on Cru<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> staff\u2014I don\u2019t even know how many years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Twenty-one years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Twenty-one?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And what have you done on Cru staff?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Oh, I have gotten to travel the world to help missionaries that are in team conflict around the world. I have been to actually 30 countries\u2014got to serve in East Asia, saw a revival happen there; served up at UC Berkley; I\u2019ve been a national director with Cru; but now I am happily on a staff team, quietly in Phoenix, Arizona, while I\u2019m raising my kids, and continuing to write and speak on the side. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Your kids are what ages?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Five and six. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So you\u2019re right at the beginning edge of this journey. God\u2019s put a burden in your heart to want to plant truth in their hearts and to point them to Jesus every day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; it\u2019s always been my passion. My background is marriage and family therapy; but then I went into college ministry after I saw a vampire come to Christ, which is a whole other story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Whoa, whoa, whoa. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You <em>can\u2019t<\/em> just <em>drop<\/em> that one in. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly: <\/strong>That\u2019s\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> There are real vampires?\u2014and you led someone to Christ?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Okay; well, I was just a college student; and I was on my first summer mission. We were out singing songs on the boardwalk. This girl approached me very awkwardly and uncomfortably. She said, \u201cI\u2019m a vampire. Are you afraid of me?\u201d I thought, \u201cWho thinks that they\u2019re a vampire?!\u201d\u2014like\u2014\u201cReally?!\u201d This is way before <em>Twilight<\/em> and <em>Vampire Diaries<\/em>. I\u2019m like, \u201cThis is really weird.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cSure; I\u2019ll talk with a vampire.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI sit down with her; she says nothing. This is when I start to pray; I\u2019m like, \u201cGod, You\u2019ve got to show me\u201d; because my training is: you share your testimony or the \u201cKnowing God Personally\u201d tract booklet that Cru has. \u201cDoes that work with a vampire?\u201d [Laughter] So I felt like the Holy Spirit was saying, \u201cWhy don\u2019t you ask her why she\u2019s a vampire?\u201d She said, \u201cI have tried to kill myself three times, and I haven\u2019t been able to die.\u201d She says, \u201cI actually drink blood of animals I sacrifice, and I believe that\u2019s what makes me clean.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo then, I said, \u201cGod, what\u2019s another question?\u201d The question that came to my mind is: \u201cWhat brings you purpose or significance in life?\u201d She said, \u201cI\u2019ve actually brought 12 women into being vampires with me that had no home, no community, no friends; and so we have a family.\u201d I thought, \u201cOkay; that is one little thing I can connect with\u2014is caring for women in community\u201d; because even in college, I was doing a women\u2019s Bible study, discipling some women. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI felt like the Holy Spirit gave me a contrary idea than how I was raised; because I was raised in the apologetics generation, where you <em>defend<\/em> the truth. I felt like the Holy Spirit\u2019s idea was, \u201cAffirm partial truths to create common ground.\u201d I said to her\/I said, \u201cChristy, in a sense, I think you\u2019re right. We <em>are<\/em> immortal; there is life after death. Blood is necessary; sacrifice is essential. <em>And<\/em> we were made for community. You are <em>right<\/em>. But I don\u2019t think you know the whole story. Do I have <em>permission<\/em> to share with you the whole story?\u201d She said, \u201cYes.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI thought, \u201cNow what do I say?\u201d I felt like I was watching myself as God was speaking through me. All of a sudden, I\u2019m sharing how Jesus is the Lamb of God, and He is the final sacrifice that will take away the sins of the world. No more animals need to be sacrificed. I got to share how He wants communion with us and community with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI go through the whole gospel; and I am so convinced she is going to say, \u201cYes.\u201d She goes, \u201cNo, I don\u2019t need Jesus in my life right now.\u201d She then says\u2014it\u2019s now two in the morning\u2014she goes, \u201cBut the buses have stopped working. Can you give me a ride home?\u201d I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWho wants to give a vampire a ride home at two in the morning?\u2014not me!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s dark out! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> So I figured I should bring a friend. He was driving; I\u2019m in the front seat; she\u2019s in the back. We are driving on a deserted highway; and all of a sudden, in the back, she starts knocking on the window, like this [knocking sound]\u2014constant eerie knock. Again, I asked a question; I said, \u201cChristy, why are you knocking on the window?\u201d She said, \u201cI feel like something is knocking at my heart, but I don\u2019t know what it is.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> No way! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> \u201cThat\u2019s Revelation 3:20: \u2018Behold, I stand at the door and knock.\u2019 Jesus is saying: \u2018Anyone who opens the door, I will come in I will dine with him; I will be his friend. I want fellowship.\u2019\u201d I said, \u201cChristy, I believe that\u2019s Jesus. He wants in your life!\u201d Then she says, \u201cI\u2019m hungry and thirsty for something, but I don\u2019t know what\u201d; yes. Now, in college, didn\u2019t remember those verses\u2014but I knew a worship song\u2014because I was an alto on the worship team.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> There you go! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> I told her the verse: \u201cI want to thirst no more; I want to hunger no more. I want to know that Jesus is my Lord.\u201d She goes, \u201cWill you sing it for me?\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cAt two-thirty in the morning, you want me to sing to you?\u2014okay.\u201d I\u2019m awkwardly, now, singing a song to her in the car. She goes, \u201cPull over, on the side of the road, right now. In case I die before I get home, I want Jesus in my life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI pull out a tract; because I\u2019m like, \u201cI don\u2019t know what I really said to you a few hours ago.\u201d She\u2019s like, \u201cNo, no. Get to the end. I want Jesus in my life right now.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cGet to the end.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> She like prays. Honestly, in my heart, I was doubtful. I said, \u201cChristy, if this is real, meet me at noon tomorrow; and we\u2019re going to talk about what this means.\u201d The next day at noon, she showed up; she\u2019s walking toward me. She\u2019s far enough away you probably shouldn\u2019t say, \u201cHi,\u201d yet. She starts screaming: \u201cHolly! Holly! I want to learn how to share my faith like you shared with me.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cLet\u2019s go on the boardwalk and let\u2019s go see what God does. Let\u2019s go <em>do<\/em> this with God.\u201d We approach a 15-year-old blonde surfer dude, named Mark. He asked a great question\u2014he said, \u201cHow do you know you\u2019re different when you\u2019re a Christian?\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cOh, man,\u201d\u2014my testimony is I was saved as a little kid\u2014\u201cHow do I answer that?\u201d She interrupts and goes, \u201cWell, Mark; yesterday I was a vampire; [Laughter] but today, I\u2019m a born-again Christian; and boy! Do I see the difference!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe goes, \u201cMark, did you know that we\u2019re all immortal? Did you know that blood is necessary, sacrifice is essential, and we were made for community? Can I tell you how?\u201d She proceeded to share with him the same presentation I shared the night before, that I thought was only contextualized for a vampire.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe prays and receives Christ, right there on the boardwalk, same area she did. She was not even a 12-hour believer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly: <\/strong>That convicts me: \u201cNo one should say they\u2019re not mature enough in Christ to be able to share Christ with someone else.\u201d It shows me that <em>none<\/em> of us may be prepared to share the gospel. <em>I<\/em> was not prepared to share the gospel; and yet, that is what transformed my life to be passionate about sharing Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Didn\u2019t you find out something about her dad later?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; her dad ended up\/he was a Christian. I was at the airport, flying back home. I met a kind woman; she was asking about my summer. I told her the story of what I call \u201cChristy, the Vampire.\u201d She brings her husband over; and he says, \u201cWhat\u2019s her name?\u201d I said, \u201cChristy Denney.\u201d He said, \u201cHer father goes to our church. We have been praying for her for <em>five years<\/em>. We have not been able to get her into a church. Now that we know she\u2019s a believer, we\u2019re going to disciple her.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat\u2019s amazing is this pastor and his wife took her in. She ended up sharing the gospel with those 12 women to the point where the head leader said, \u201cIf you do this anymore, I will take your life.\u201d He was threatening her life, so she literally moved in with the pastor and his wife that I met at the airport for her protection and her discipleship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cGod, I have never seen someone go from darkness to light to full transformation. I want to do nothing else with my life but share Jesus with others.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I can see why you\u2019d say law school would be pretty boring after that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I can also see, as you talk about her dad and the pastor praying, and they\u2019re seeing their prayers answered. It\u2019s five years; at some point, you even give up. There\u2019s a dad, there\u2019s a pastor, there\u2019s probably a community\u2014which sounds weird\u2014they\u2019re praying for a vampire daughter. You listened to Jesus; the Holy Spirit spoke into her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s, obviously now, as a mom, an angst in your soul about praying; right?\u2014especially praying for your kids. Tell us why you wrote a book about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; there are two verses in the Bible that have really hit my heart on this. One is \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tProverbs 22:6\u2014it says: \u201cTrain up a child in the way he should go. Even when he is old, he will not depart from it.\u201d This verse is not meant to necessarily to be a full-on promise\u2014that as much as we are faithful to invest in our children, spiritually, some might become prodigals\u2014we need to trust God with those prodigals. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe need to think about our responsibility as parents. Our responsibility is to train. We cannot control the outcome of our children\u2019s faith, but we can control our intentionality with them. If there\u2019s one thing I\u2019m really passionate about, it\u2019s about: \u201cGod wants us to be intentional people in all areas of our life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe second verse in the Bible that really impacted me is Deuteronomy 6:5 and 7\u2014it says this: \u201cYou shall love the Lord God with all of your heart, and with all of your soul, and with all of your might,\u201d and \u201cThese words I command to you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk to them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI started praying, \u201cHow do I live this out practically?\u201d I wanted to really meditate on this verse and be proactive. The first thing that stuck out to me in this verse is <em>we<\/em> are responsible to love God with all our heart. If <em>we\u2019re<\/em> not walking with the Lord\u2014if <em>we\u2019re<\/em> not being in His Word and being obedient to Him\u2014we <em>cannot<\/em> impact, train, disciple, and influence our children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSecond, it says to teach them <em>diligently<\/em>. I believe that means we need to help them understand the Word, even when they\u2019re very young. My personal opinion\u2014and yes, I only have two young kids\u2014is: \u201cWhen they start to walk, we can start to talk to them about God, sin, Jesus, our need for a Savior. They\u2019re not going to fully grasp it, but we begin the conversation.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we need to talk when we\u2019re at home. I think home needs to be a safe place\u2014right?\u2014for our children. We live in a fast-paced culture, and we\u2019re rushing from one thing to the next. Honestly, we\u2019ve become more task-oriented than people-oriented. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> What did that look like for you in terms of\u2014here you are\u2014a young mom; you have little kids, and they\u2019re only a year apart?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s crazy; moms listening are like, \u201cI have hardly time to eat, let alone disciple my kids.\u201d Even for your own personal time, that can be hard; because before you had kids, you had time to read your Bible; and then you have kids, and it gets a lot tougher.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; when they\u2019re first born, yes, you don\u2019t get your normal quiet time if you\u2019re used to that. I would take a proverb a day, and say, \u201cI\u2019m going to meditate on this while I\u2019m in my tired state for the first three months of a child\u2019s life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI do think there has to be, at some point, where we continue a spiritual discipline, even with young children. Once they got on a sleep schedule, I started to make it the norm that they weren\u2019t going to be coming downstairs until 7:00 a.m. We got one of those lights that light up at seven o\u2019clock; they know they can come downstairs. I condition them to do that. Even at five and six, they will pretty much will stay in their room. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAt a young age, I decided to start giving them resources to have a quiet time like mommy. They can\u2019t read yet. I got them a Bible\u2014it\u2019s a kids\u2019 Bible storybook to color\u2014it\u2019s not a coloring book; it\u2019s an actual Bible, but so many of the pages they can color. Their quiet time is coloring. Then, I read them the story after they color the picture; so they started to have their own quiet time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOnce my son started learning how to read\u2014they could read the word, \u201cGod\u201d\u2014so he started to highlight the word, \u201cGod,\u201d all throughout the Bible; because mommy highlights in her Bible. I\u2019m just starting to give them principles, as little kids, to help them think about, \u201cWhat would it\u00a0 look like to have a quiet time like Mommy and Daddy?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m just amazed they don\u2019t come down until 7:00 a.m. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Are you still stuck on that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m like, \u201cWow! That\u2019s a disciplined child!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> People are going, \u201cIf I could just train my kids on that, that\u2019s all I need!\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; I am more of a structured parent, so that does help. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One of the things that you\u2019re passionate about is praying <em>with<\/em> your kids, getting them in this practice. What you\u2019ve developed in the book is an outline\/a map that moms and dads can follow so that this can become a regular practice in their home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; it was literally the week before school started this past year that God gave me this idea: \u201cLet\u2019s be intentional to pray with them.\u201d Because now both of my kids were going to go to preschool and kindergarten. I invited 18 of my friends to join me; I said, \u201cDo you want to join me this year and pray through a verse every day with your child before they go to school?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI started to ask God, \u201cWhat are topics that children need to think about as they go to school?\u201d\u2014topics like authority, respect, friends, anxiety, fear, being courageous on that first week. I looked up all the verses on that word and I chose five that I thought most would relate to the child as they go to school. I have two verses\u2014one is the actual verse in the Bible for an older child, and then they get to pray through that verse. Then, I paraphrase the verse in the Bible for a younger child, like mine, that might not know some bigger words so that they, too, could start to understand principles in the Bible but maybe not the exact verse. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy friends and I did this for a whole year. It became very, very impactful on\u2014not only my children\u2019s life\u2014but their children\u2019s lives as well. We decided, \u201cMaybe this would be helpful for other families to start implementing.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What did this look like? Take us through: \u201cIs this at the breakfast table in the morning?\u2014on the way to school? When are you doing it? How are you doing it?\u201d\u2014just give us a picture.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> What I try to encourage people\u2014this is five minutes of your day\u2014but it can be the most crucial five minutes because, when we start our day with God, our perspective on everything that we\u2019re going to experience that day could change. I encourage parents: \u201cWake up five or ten minutes earlier, even if you\u2019re not a morning person, and pray that <em>you\u2019re<\/em> filled with the Spirit as you try to do this with your children. He will give <em>you<\/em> the strength to have the patience to be able to do this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of my friends would do this at the breakfast table before they started homeschooling. Some of my friends would, literally, do it, standing up at the front door; and they would then lay their hands on their kids and commission them off to school as if they are being \u201csent ones\u201d to school every single day. I, myself, would drive my children to school\u2014about ten minutes to school. We would read it and pray as we were heading to school in the car. I think any idea would work; it\u2019s just the idea of being intentional and being consistent. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> With your kids, you\u2019d get them buckled in\u2014and before you start the car\u2014I presume you\u2019re not reading the Bible verses as you\u2019re driving.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Right; true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019d read these Bible verses; and then would you pray, and they pray? Is that how\u2014what would it feel like?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; we would all three pray. Honestly, with little kids\u2014or any age\u2014they might start to feel like, \u201cI don\u2019t want to pray today\u201d; right? It\u2019s not like they\u2019re robots, and they\u2019re going to just do it. There were some days that became the discipleship moment of saying: \u201cLet\u2019s talk about that. Why do you think we want to pray to God before we go to school? How do you think that would help us? That\u2019s <em>your<\/em> choice. I\u2019m not, as the parent, going to force you to pray. But I know my life changes when I get to pray to God before I start my day.\u201d\u00a0 Or I would ask the other child to pray first; then, the second child, \u201cOkay; I want to pray.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSometimes, it\u2019s just even getting into the rhythm. Our rhythm became so much so that, a few weeks in, I forgot the paper at home. My son said, \u201cMommy, how could you forget the Bible verse for the day?!\u201d The next day, \u201cMommy, don\u2019t forget the Bible verse.\u201d Next day, \u201cMommy, don\u2019t forget the Bible verse.\u201d Then, what started happening, in our evening prayers with our family, our son would start to say, \u201cGod, help me to obey the Bible verse tomorrow.\u201d He knew a Bible verse was coming, and his heart was starting to change: \u201cHelp me to obey the Bible verse tomorrow.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat I liked about it, too, is\u2014since it was a theme for the week\u2014it gave us context to talk about a bigger topic in the Bible over the week\u2014not just a verse for the day and then tomorrow\u2019s verse is a difference topic\u2014we got to focus on something, which really helped them grow in that area. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> The theme would be\u2014let\u2019s say, \u201cCourage\u201d\u2014the theme of the week is \u201cCourage.\u201d Each morning you have a different verse on courage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s interesting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> \u2014and how they could pray through it. Especially when you think it is the first week\u2014because they\u2019re meeting new teachers; new friends; new school, maybe\u2014this year, it\u2019s going to be new situations.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly: <\/strong>Yes; it\u2019s helping them be courageous as they step into\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> How did the mothers or families that had teenagers\u2014how\u2019d that go for them? Did you hear stories?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly: <\/strong>I did! I will leave them nameless. I had a sixth grader come swim in our pool just two weeks ago. His mom said, \u201cThis [Holly] is the one who wrote all those prayers for that devotional.\u201d He goes, \u201cWow!\u201d He goes, \u201cThose were really <em>good<\/em>.\u201d He goes, \u201cThey were better than my dad\u2019s,\u201d\u2014his dad is our children\u2019s pastor\u2014[Laughter]\u2014I was like, \u201cDon\u2019t tell your dad that, but thank you.\u201d That gave me courage, because that\u2019s a different age group than my little children. It seemed that he, as a boy sixth-grader, really enjoyed it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know I have another woman\u2014her daughter is 11\u2014looked forward to it every day. She had bullying happening in her school; she had to deal with a lot of really hard situations. Her mom said going through these prayers helped give her a foundation before she went into some very difficult situations for the year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I can imagine\u2014you asked about teenagers\u2014I can imagine, with younger kids, there is some excitement and anticipation. In those years, they are kind of hanging on every word we say. You start doing this with a 14-year-old\u2014you know, you haven\u2019t done this\u2014you say, \u201cWe\u2019re going to start praying on the way to school and a Bible verse\u2026\u201d They\u2019re kind of like, \u201cWhatever,\u201d and roll their eyes. Should a parent just power through that and keep going?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Holly:<\/strong> Yes; I think so. I think it\u2019s never too late to encourage spiritual disciplines with our children and to model them ourselves. What I would do\u2014if you have a middle schooler or high schooler\u2014saying\/make it an exciting thing\u2014like: \u201cHey, I want to grow in God together. I want us to be united in doing something that will help us both understand the Bible and live it out. Can we please try this? Let\u2019s try it for a month, and let\u2019s see if it impacts our life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou don\u2019t have to commit them or force them to do it for a year; but say, \u201cCould we try this together and see if this, not only bonds us, but helps us to become greater influences around us?\u201d You\u2019re kind of in it together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m imagining Ann Wilson hearing this conversation, back a few years ago when you still had kids at home, you\u2019d be going, \u201cI\u2019m getting <em>five<\/em> copies of that book.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I totally would, [Laughter] because I was doing it on the fly. What I\u2019ve seen, too, with high school and middle school kids\u2014they\u2019re still soaking it in. They may roll their eyes sometimes, or generally be quiet; but what I\u2019ve found was: kids in high school are going through hard things; middle school is <em>rough<\/em>. It\u2019s interesting\u2014because they\u2019re so desperate, that they\u2019ll take God\u2019s Word, and they\u2019re kind of clinging to it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of our sons was going through some stuff. I would take these little flat rocks that I found, and I would write a Bible verse on it. He would have it in his pocket all day. I would say, \u201cHey, when it gets rough, pull that verse out: \u2018Lord, help me. This is what\u2019s going on.\u2019 Pray this verse; this maybe will help you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen would come the next week\u2014or something else was going on\u2014he\u2019s like, \u201cHey, do you have another <em>rock<\/em>?\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cWhat?\u201d Then, he said, \u201cMy friend in track needs one. He\u2019s really stressing about the meet tonight.\u201d I\u2019d write this little verse on this rock. I saw that guy, probably a couple years ago when he was 27; he said, \u201cMrs. Wilson, I want to tell you\u2014that Scripture you put on that rock was like my lifeline for the year.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe think kids aren\u2019t interested at that age. Those kids are going through <em>rough<\/em> stuff, and God\u2019s Word is a comfort and a stabilizer to their souls. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And to have a plan prepared for them\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s the part that\u2019s so good! It\u2019s done for us already. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014all you have to do is follow the instructions. It\u2019s like a spiritual cookbook with your kids: \u201cHere\u2019s the recipe.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd again, to your point\u2014there\u2019s no guarantee that the cake\u2019s going to turn out the way you want it to turn out\u2014there is not a promise from Proverbs; but there is a principle here in Proverbs that, when we \u201cTrain up a child in the way he should go,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s our job\u2014and God is going to meet us there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Thanks for the intentionality. It\u2019s a tool that helps parents, that maybe aren\u2019t necessarily intentional, to be intentional: \u201cHere you go! Follow the plan!\u201d\u2014how hard is that?\u2014\u201cAnd see what God does.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And the moms and dads, who are just like Ann Wilson, and want five copies of the book, [Laughter] go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com to order copies. In fact, what we\u2019re doing this week\u2014we\u2019re going to send you a copy\u2014any <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listener, who can make a donation to help support the ongoing work of this ministry\u2014Holly\u2019s book, <em>Praying with Your Kids Before School,<\/em> is our gift to you\/our way of saying, \u201cThank you for your support of this ministry.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo here\u2019s the deal\u2014you\u2019re helping reach hundreds of thousands of people every day with practical biblical help and hope for their marriage and family by supporting <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. As a thank-you gift, you get Holly\u2019s book, <em>Praying with Your Kids Before School<\/em>. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to make an online donation, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY; donate over the phone. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com if you\u2019d like to donate online. Or if you\u2019d like to donate by phone, call 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTomorrow, we\u2019re going to continue talking about ways we can engage with our kids and get them focused\u2014looking in the right direction\/thinking about the right thing\u2014before we send them off to school, wherever we\u2019re sending them this year\/whatever that looks like for you. Holly Melton joins us, again, tomorrow. I hope you can join us as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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