{"id":305995,"date":"2020-05-09T07:00:04","date_gmt":"2020-05-09T11:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/mothers-and-fear\/"},"modified":"2020-05-09T07:00:04","modified_gmt":"2020-05-09T11:00:04","slug":"mothers-and-fear","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-this-week\/mothers-and-fear\/","title":{"rendered":"Mothers and Fear"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Barbara Rainey, mother of six and grandmother to 21+, encourages listeners to take their fears and worries to God in prayer.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"http:\/\/d2c17sq0nj1f7e.cloudfront.net\/flw2020-05-09.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:28:00","filesize":"25.64M","filesize_raw":"26882964","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2856,2822],"tags":[6838,4087],"podcast_series":[],"cwp_profile":[3052],"series":[10388],"class_list":["post-305995","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","hentry","category-adult-children","category-growing-in-your-faith","tag-coronavirus","tag-mothers","cwp_profile-barbara-rainey","series-familylife-this-week"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":false,"episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/10\/FLTW-Podcast-Cover-2-1400x1400-1-300x300-1.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/305995\/mothers-and-fear","player_link":"https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/305995\/mothers-and-fear","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-this-week","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"EqamQf84gU\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-this-week\/mothers-and-fear\/\">Mothers and Fear<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-this-week\/mothers-and-fear\/embed\/#?secret=EqamQf84gU\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Mothers and Fear&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"EqamQf84gU\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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You\u2019re not alone. Here\u2019s co-founder of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Barbara Rainey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> There\u2019ve been days that I\u2019ve been fearful with the Coronavirus. I\u2019ve wondered, you know, \u201cWhen\u2019s it going to end?\u201d I\u2019ve wondered: \u201cIs it going to come here?\u201d \u201cIs it going to impact us?\u201d \u201cIs it going to impact people that I know and love?\u201d And we just don\u2019t know the answers to that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think God is teaching all of us, and has been teaching all of us, in this new reality that we\u2019ve all lived through\u2014and are still living through in many ways\u2014He\u2019s teaching us that He is in control. He\u2019s doing this for our good, and He wants us to trust Him in the middle of it. It\u2019s not easy, but it\u2019s very good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Barbara Rainey talks with us about how prayer is the essential piece of living in uncertain times on this edition of <em>FamilyLife This Week. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWelcome to <em>FamilyLife This Week. <\/em>I\u2019m Michelle Hill. Moms, this is Mother\u2019s Day weekend; and it looks different than any other Mother\u2019s Day celebrations or weekends. You know, moms, you are heroic in <em>so many <\/em>ways, and especially now, as we face this worldwide crisis that has had your kids locked up with you for weeks on end. My hat\u2019s off to you, moms. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tToday\u2019s program is for you; it\u2019s encouragement for your soul today. In Proverbs 31, where they talk about that special woman, her children rise up and call her blessed. Now, I\u2019m sure you\u2019re thinking: \u201cMichelle, that\u2019s not my child today,\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s not my child last week; in fact, I don\u2019t think they\u2019ll <em>ever<\/em> call me \u2018blessed\u2019 again.\u201d Well, you\u2019d be surprised!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tToday, I want to talk with a woman who has lived through some hard times in the past, and lived to tell about it. She is a wife, and a mom, and a Mimi to <em>many<\/em> granddaughters and grandsons. I\u2019m talking about Barbara Rainey, who is the co-founder of FamilyLife; and she joins me here. So go get that cup of tea, and sit down, and join my conversation with Barbara. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Talk about prayer today. Was prayer a favorite topic of yours?\u2014or has it been in the past?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Oh, goodness! That\u2019s kind of a loaded question for me. [Laughter] I think I\u2019ve always wanted to talk to God; I\u2019ve always wanted to know what He thinks. I remember, as a kid, wanting to know God, but not knowing how to do that. When I was a new believer in my early 20s, I remember thinking, \u201cI really want to be a woman of prayer.\u201d I don\u2019t even think I knew what that <em>meant<\/em>; but I thought it sounded cool, and godly, and wise; so I wanted to be all those things when I was in my 20s. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, I had <em>no idea <\/em>about prayer at the time when I had that thought. I <em>certainly<\/em> would not consider myself a wise, godly, woman of prayer by any means; because I think now, that I\u2019ve had such an up-and-down journey with prayer\u2014I would describe it through the years\u2014I just think that it\u2019s one of those things that\u2019s <em>unfathomable<\/em> about knowing God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I mean, how can we really define having a conversation with someone who\u2019s not definable? I mean\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> You\u2019re right, because it says\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u2014I don\u2019t know.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> It says in Isaiah, and also in Job, \u201cHis thoughts are higher than our thoughts...\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u2014higher than ours; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> His ways are beyond what anything we can imagine.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> So you have been on quite the journey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> And out of that journey has been this new book on prayer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Take us back to where this journey started. Where were you with God at that time?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, this all started, actually, when Dennis and I transitioned out of FamilyLife. We handed over the reins to David and Meg Robbins, whom we love; and we think they\u2019re <em>wonderful<\/em> people, and they\u2019ve done a <em>really<\/em> great job. But Dennis and I embarked\u2014once we walked out of the building with FamilyLife\u2014we embarked on a journey that was very unknown. We even would have said so at the time: \u201cWe have no idea what\u2019s ahead.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think what surprised us both, early on in those first six months, was that it was harder than we thought it would be. What I finally came to realize, about a year into it, is that we were both struggling with a loss of identity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes, I\u2019m sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> We were trying to figure out: \u201cWho are we now that we aren\u2019t FamilyLife?\u2014now that we don\u2019t have FamilyLife?\u2014now that we aren\u2019t with those people anymore?\u201d That\u2019s a quick description of where we were. In the process of that year, which became two years, and now is more than that, we both just struggle a lot.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> What did you learn about God through this season\/through this journey that He had you on?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, the thing that I learned about God\u2014well, I learned a bunch. I began to write my thoughts in the form of prayers, because I had been reading through the Psalms. The Psalms spoke to me at a level that I hadn\u2019t experienced in years. They identified their feelings\/captured what they were experiencing in words that I think all of us can identify with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> So reading that level of raw honesty and heart transparency caused me to say: \u201cOh! Then what am I <em>really<\/em> feeling?\u201d \u201cWhat state is my heart in?\u201d and \u201cHow would I describe that before God?\u201d As I started writing, I realized just putting words to it helped me understand what was really in my heart at its core. Instead of praying nicely, I recognized what was <em>truly<\/em> in my heart.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Well, there\u2019s almost a time in some of the Psalms\u2014I know for me, I\u2019ve started to memorize Psalm 86; because last fall, I went through a time of just feeling so restless and almost looking at God, and saying, \u201cWhere are You, God?!\u201d [Laughter] \u201cAre You in my life?\u201d \u201cWhat are You doing?\u201d \u201cWhat\u2019s going on?!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> I started memorizing Psalm 86, which starts with \u201cAnswer me.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> And it wasn\u2019t just a kind, \u201cAnswer me, God.\u201d You know, it was a demand!\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It was a demand.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> \u2014going, \u201cAnswer me!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> At first, it felt like, \u201cWho am <em>I<\/em> to go and demand that from God?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> God needed to hear me that way; He needed to see me cry; or He wanted to hear my cry, because He wanted me to take those tears to Him and not to someone else.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; and because He knew that\u2019s what was in your heart,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u2014and He wanted <em>you<\/em> to see what was in your heart, and He wanted you to bring it to Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that\u2019s what He wanted for me too. He wanted me to <em>see<\/em> what was really there and bring it to Him, because He was okay with it. And then [for me] to say, \u201cYet I will trust You.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> You\u2019re right! I mean, those prayers\u2014where David says: \u201cAnswer me!\u201d \u201cHear me!\u201d \u201cWhere are You?\u201d \u201cWhat are You\u2026?\u201d\u2014in our language, David would be saying, \u201cWhat are You thinking, God?!\u201d [Laughter] We have felt that way recently with the Coronavirus: \u201cWhat are You <em>doing<\/em>?\u201d and \u201c<em>Why<\/em> are You doing this?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> And we know that God knows what He\u2019s doing. I have grown to trust Him and to rest in Him so much more.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes; you just brought up the Coronavirus. I thought, \u201cLet\u2019s just go there.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> You had mentioned that, about two or more years ago, your life was disrupted.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> There are a lot of women, right now, whose spring has been disrupted because of this virus: people who\u2019ve lost their jobs; kids, who are home from school, and may not return this school year.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> There is just a lot of upheaval. A lot of people are having these \u201cWhat if\u2026\u201d questions. Teach us what you\u2019ve learned about really fighting through those fears, and how do we take every thought captive and really keep our eyes on the horizon?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, one of my favorite lines from the Psalms\u2014and I\u2019m sorry I can\u2019t remember which one it is\u2014but it\u2019s in the early 50s; 52\/Psalm 53, maybe\u2014it says, \u201cWhen I am afraid, I will trust You.\u201d I <em>love<\/em> that, because he\u2019s not saying, \u201cI\u2019m <em>not<\/em> going to be afraid.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> He\u2019s <em>acknowledging<\/em> that he\u2019s going to be afraid. That\u2019s so liberating to know that: \u201cGod knows that we\u2019re going to be afraid, and it\u2019s okay if we\u2019re afraid; He just wants us to trust Him with that fear.\u201d I think that really summarizes what I\u2019ve learned about fear and about trusting God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt doesn\u2019t mean that I\u2019m not, because I have been afraid. There have been days that I\u2019ve been fearful with the Coronavirus. I\u2019ve wondered, you know, \u201cWhen\u2019s it going to end?\u201d I\u2019ve wondered: \u201cIs it going to come here?\u201d \u201cIs it going to impact us?\u201d \u201cIs it going to impact people that I know and love?\u201d And we just don\u2019t know the answers to that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think God is teaching all of us, and has been teaching all of us, in this new reality that we\u2019ve all lived through\u2014and are still living through in many ways\u2014He\u2019s teaching us that He is in control. He\u2019s doing this for our good, and He wants us to trust Him in the middle of it. It\u2019s not easy, but it\u2019s very good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It\u2019s very good for our faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> \u201cI will trust in You,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> \u2014that\u2019s what we\u2019re supposed to be doing. We sing that song; we memorize that verse\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cI will trust in You.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> My sound engineer wanted to remind me that those are King David\u2019s words from Psalm 56.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> There you go! I knew it was in the 50s. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> You know, one thing that I appreciate so much about the Psalms is that it gives voice to our emotions. You know, we talked a little earlier about anger, and frustration, and just being mad at God. Now we\u2019re talking about fear, and just how we\u2019re <em>allowed<\/em> to be fearful, in a way, as long as we keep looking up and keep seeing <em>Him<\/em> as our Provider. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; it has just been a very good reminder to me that my relationship to God is a parent\/child relationship. I\u2019m His child. I feel so much more like a child now that I\u2019m older than I did when I was closer to being one, because I realize that I really am a child at heart; and God loves me that way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Just like it didn\u2019t bother me when my kids were afraid\u2014it was a normal part of growing up\u2014being afraid of bugs, or being afraid of the dark, or being afraid of different things. I <em>welcomed<\/em> them when they came to me and said they were afraid. In fact, I wanted them to!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes, that\u2019s so important.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara, there is somebody, who\u2019s listening today, right now, who is struggling with God. You know, there has been loss, frustration, confusion\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> \u2014you know, trust has been broken; that foundation has been shaken. God seems so far away! He was once <em>near<\/em>, but now prayer is the farthest thing from their mind. As an older, wiser mentor, how would you guide her or him through this valley that they are walking?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, I think my encouragement is: \u201cIt\u2019s okay to be dry for a while; it\u2019s okay to be in the desert for a while.\u201d I have been through seasons when I didn\u2019t pray very much. I remember one season, in particular, that was a real crisis in our lives; and I just <em>couldn\u2019t<\/em> pray. I couldn\u2019t find words for it; I was so overwhelmed with what we were going through. I discovered, later on, that there were people, who were praying for us; and that <em>really<\/em> meant a lot to me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t think God is as concerned about the fact that we sometimes have dry periods, or we forget to pray because the day just got away from us and it was crazy. I just think He loves it when we come to Him; I think He <em>loves<\/em> it when we come back. I would say: \u201cDon\u2019t be hard on yourself\u201d\u2014but also\u2014\u201cDon\u2019t be afraid to go to God. Don\u2019t worry that He\u2019s going to scold you, because you haven\u2019t prayed a lot lately; or because you wandered away for a while; or because you were hurt by this experience with the Coronavirus, and you haven\u2019t taken it to God.\u201d I think we put a lot on God that is not who He is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara, this is such good stuff; this is gold. I hate to do this, but we need to take a break.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> On the other side, I would <em>love<\/em> to talk more about prayer; because I think it\u2019s becoming one of my favorite <em>subjects<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, good! I like that! That\u2019s fun to hear.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Okay. We\u2019ll be back in two minutes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Radio Station Spot Break]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Welcome back to <em>FamilyLife This Week<\/em>. I'm Michelle Hill. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI am talking with Barbara Rainey today. We\u2019re talking about prayer, and especially, prayer during uncertain times. Barbara, you probably have gone through many uncertain times in your marriage with Dennis. How long have you guys been married now?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It\u2019s like 47 [years].\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Oh, wow! Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I know! I know, right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Almost 50!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Almost, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> So you\u2019ve been married for a <em>long<\/em> time. You\u2019ve <em>seen<\/em> the hard times come and go. What would you say to a young mom, who\u2019s basically on the verge of <em>panic<\/em> right now in this season? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, I know what that feels like, because I\u2019ve got some girls\/some daughters, who are\u2014some of them are anxious about this virus\u2014some of them are more anxious than other ones are. There isn\u2019t\u2014you know, when you ask that question, \u201cWhat would I say?\u201d\u2014I don\u2019t know that there really is a one thing to say. I think the answer is: \u201cOh, I don\u2019t even know what to say on that\u201d; because it\u2019s so much more complicated than, \u201cIt\u2019s going to be okay\u201d; because, well, we don\u2019t know if it\u2019s going to be okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, sometimes, we forget that part in our pat answers: \u201cGod is in control,\u201d \u201cHe\u2019s going to get us through this,\u201d\u2014it\u2019s true!\u2014but I think, because we\u2019re fallen and because we\u2019re human, our capacity to see God is so small. He\u2019s trying to expand that; He\u2019s trying to <em>grow<\/em> that vision of who He is; He\u2019s trying to help us see Him for who He is. Sometimes it takes really hard things, like this virus, and like a lot of people dying. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, in answer to your question, that would be what I hope I could say. Our kids need to know that God is in control\u2014and not as a flippant answer; not as a cure-all; not as a: \u201cOh, just trust God. He\u2019s in control; you\u2019re going to be fine,\u201d\u2014I think we <em>say<\/em> those kind of things sometimes to young women\/young moms\u2014just like the one you described hypothetically\u2014\u201cIt\u2019s going to be okay; God\u2019s in charge.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t know if God wants us to be saying that, because we <em>don\u2019t<\/em> know that it\u2019s going to be okay. We do know that He\u2019s in charge; but what do we mean by, \u201cIt\u2019s going to be okay?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It could mean different things for different people.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, ultimately, what God is trying to do through this pandemic\u2014what He\u2019s been trying to do since it started and is continuing to do\u2014is I think He is trying to say to His followers\/to His children, and to those who don\u2019t know Him: \u201cI want you to look at Me as I am\u2014<em>not<\/em> as you think I am, <em>not<\/em> as you want Me to be, <em>not<\/em> as you <em>hope<\/em> I will be\u2014but I want you to see Me for who I am and love Me for who I am.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Barbara, I just want to thank you for that answer. From a woman, who has looked up to you as a woman of God for many years, for you to say: \u201cI don\u2019t know how to answer that question,\u201d and \u201cI don\u2019t want to just give you an answer, but I want to show you how we should be looking at God,\u201d I just\u2014that just speaks volumes!\u2014when you don\u2019t give a pat answer; but you say, \u201cOkay, let\u2019s just sit down, and let\u2019s talk through this.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m just thinking there are a lot of women, right now, who are feeling lonely and feeling like: \u201cI used to have a friend, but I don\u2019t,\u201d or \u201cI can\u2019t see my friend right now,\u201d or \u201cI can\u2019t be with my friend like I used to.\u201d In your book, there is a prayer called, \u201cHoly Spirit, My Friend.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> That is something that I don\u2019t always think of when I\u2019m talking to God is that: \u201cThe Holy Spirit is my friend.\u201d Where did that prayer come from? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, we know that Jesus called Himself our friend. He makes that really clear in the Book of John. In close conjunction with that statement that Jesus made about Himself to His disciples\u2014not long after that\u2014He said, \u201cI\u2019m going to ask the Father; He is going to send someone to be with you, who will be with you forever.\u201d And then He began to teach about the Holy Spirit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI started thinking that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Jesus; and the Holy Spirit is God; and the Holy Spirit is [in] the Trinity. That\u2019s who\u2019s in me?! I\u2019ve never forgotten the title of Francis Chan\u2019s book about the Holy Spirit; it\u2019s called <em>Forgotten God.<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I think the <em>title<\/em> says it all. We <em>don\u2019t<\/em> think of the Holy Spirit as God. We don\u2019t talk to Him like we talk to the Father or to the Son; we basically ignore Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve just started thinking a lot in the last few years about how much the Holy Spirit does for me. The Holy Spirit is the reason that I\u2019m <em>redeemed<\/em>. The Holy Spirit lives within me; the Holy Spirit is the one who is reminding me of Scripture. The Holy Spirit is the one who\u2019s whispering, \u201cThis is what I want you to do.\u201d The Holy Spirit is the one who gives me life!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> If it weren\u2019t for the Spirit, I would be dead!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have just started consciously helping myself remember Him and helping myself talk to Him as a member of the Trinity. I talk about Jesus, and I use His name. I talk about the Father, and I talk to Him. Why not talk about the Holy Spirit and talk to Him too?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s hard for our brains to wrap around that\u2014and that\u2019s part of the problem; we\u2019re not going to\u2014I think we think we need to be able to wrap our brains around it. Well, we might as well just forget it, because we\u2019re not going to. But it has helped me <em>so much<\/em> to think about the presence of the Holy Spirit within me, and to recognize that He is here to help me\u2014that\u2019s what Jesus said\u2014He said, \u201cI am going to send you a Helper.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> That\u2019s beautiful! That\u2019s what it is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> And so, actually, I dedicated the book to the Holy Spirit; because I am \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>100 percent<\/em> convinced that it was His idea in the first place. It wasn\u2019t my idea to write my prayers. He wanted me to commune more with Himself, and with the Father, and the Son; and He\u2019s the One who gave me the idea to begin writing down what I was feeling. It wasn\u2019t my idea; I\u2019m not that smart!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJust in the process of talking to Him more\u2014asking Him to speak to me more; asking Him to help me, which is what He was sent to do\u2014I feel like I\u2019ve gotten to know Him more, so I dedicated the book to Him. I also wrote a prayer about the Holy Spirit, as you mentioned. I want women to know that\u2014no matter how lonely you feel, no matter how abandoned you feel, what you\u2019re going through\u2014you are <em>not<\/em> alone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s because of the presence of the Holy Spirit that you\u2019re not alone. It\u2019s because Jesus left and ascended to the Father. We just celebrated Easter and Ascension Day; it\u2019s because Jesus left and went to the Father that we have the Holy Spirit with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> It\u2019s such good news!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It\u2019s such a wonderful thing; that He came, and He was willing to live <em>within<\/em> us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> I\u2019m going to change gears right now a little bit, because it is Mother\u2019s Day this weekend. You recently lost your mom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> What was the legacy your mom left for you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Oh, goodness! I think her legacy to me was her <em>faithfulness<\/em> and her constancy. Interestingly, one of her friends said to me, after she died, \u201cYour mother was the most peaceful person I\u2019ve ever known in my life.\u201d I thought: \u201cWhat a great description! I would have <em>never<\/em> thought of that.\u201d In her own way, she trusted God; she really did. Even though, in those last couple of weeks of her life, she shared that she was afraid, I still think she was faithful; I still think that she was very peaceful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Now what kind of legacy are you hoping to leave for <em>your<\/em> girls?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I think the legacy that I want to leave for my girls\u2014and my boys for that matter too\/my sons\u2014is I just want them to know that their mom always chose to believe in God and <em>really was<\/em> grounded in Him, and that I trusted Him with all the stuff that came.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want them to know\u2014and they know that we\u2019ve been through hard stuff through the years. I just want them to see that enduring constancy, I think, more than anything; because I know they\u2019re going to go through hard stuff. I wish there were another way. I wish they didn\u2019t have to, but I know they\u2019re going to have hard stuff in their lives. I want them to remember that my husband and I\u2014Dennis and I both\u2014chose to trust in God, no matter what\u2014that\u2019s really the essence of faith. That\u2019s really what David modeled in the Psalms.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> He was saying, in all of the Psalms, \u201cNo matter what, I will trust You.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> And I think that\u2019s really what we want them to see in us too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> That\u2019s amazing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara, once again, thank you! Thank you for the example that you leave for so many. You are leaving, not only just a legacy for your kids, but for so many of us, who have grown up with you and who have heard your teachings. We\u2019re excited about reading your book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Good!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> So thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, you\u2019re welcome. It\u2019s a privilege to be able to do this with you. And I do hope that my rawness, and honesty, and transparency in my book will encourage women to do the same.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Moms, I hope that you have been encouraged by Barbara\u2019s words. I know this is a different Mother\u2019s Day than you probably envisioned a while back, but I pray that you\u2019ve been encouraged in your prayer life and in your walk.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs we close out our time together, I just want to read from Barbara\u2019s book. You know, we talked about a prayer that she had written for the Holy Spirit, called \u201cMy Dearest Friend\u201d; it goes like this: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHoly Spirit, Author of all grace and comfort,\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe think You silent, if we think of You at all, Forgotten God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou were sent, a gift, to Me to be with me forever,\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo never leave me or forsake me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI am not an orphan.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou are my Helper, my Teacher, my Guide.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn my daily forgetfulness, You help me remember\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll that Jesus spoke to me in His Word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy constant Companion, \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy promise, my Purifier, my Power;\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou keep me secure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRefine me as silver,\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tStrengthen my faltering faith.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBreath of life, my very oxygen,\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tStrengthen and guide me today and always. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI worship You, my dearest Friend and closest Companion.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAmen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>\u00a0<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, again, that was a prayer from Barbara Rainey\u2019s latest book, <em>My Heart, Ever His.<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHey, next week, we\u2019re going to hear from Lore Wilbert. It might be a little bit weird, because we\u2019re going to talk about touching. That is an odd subject to talk about next week; because, you know, we\u2019ve been handling this social distancing for so long; but COVID or no COVID, human touch is an <em>essential<\/em> part of human life. We\u2019re going to talk about that next week.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHey, thanks for listening! I want to thank the president of FamilyLife, David Robbins, along with our station partners around the country. A big \u201cThank you!\u201d to our engineer today, Keith Lynch, and also to Marques Hold, our producer. 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