{"id":305971,"date":"2020-05-01T07:00:04","date_gmt":"2020-05-01T11:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/incline-your-ear-oh-lord\/"},"modified":"2020-05-01T07:00:04","modified_gmt":"2020-05-01T11:00:04","slug":"incline-your-ear-oh-lord","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/incline-your-ear-oh-lord\/","title":{"rendered":"Incline Your Ear, Oh Lord"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From King David to Susanna Wesley, the faithful have been writing their prayers down for thousands of years. Barbara Rainey talks about the benefit of getting real and honest with God. 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Barbara Rainey says, \u201cGod wants both.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> At the end of the day, I really only want one thing\u2014I want to please God\u2014that\u2019s all it is. I know He\u2019s okay with me saying what I really feel; but in the end, I\u2019m going to choose Him: I\u2019m going to choose His way, His timing, His everything; because I know He knows what He\u2019s doing. I know that, if I were in charge, it would <em>not<\/em> turn out real well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, May 1<sup>st<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I\u2019m Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. Jesus taught us, as His disciples, how to pray; but He also says, \u201cCome to Me when you are weary and heavy laden, and I\u2019ll give you rest.\u201d Barbara Rainey joins us today to talk about prayer. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I have to tell you guys a story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I love, Bob! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is story time. Here we go! Yes! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You ready for my story? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Story time with Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And before I tell the story, let me just welcome back to the studio with us again, Barbara Rainey, who is joining us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Thank you, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019ve already mentioned that she is here without her husband, which is an unusual circumstance; but we\u2019re having a great conversation about prayer, which is the story I wanted to tell you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I was in high school, the church I went to in high school was a traditional, mainline church, where on Sunday at the worship service, there would be prayers that would be read out of the bulletin. I remember thinking: \u201cIs anybody even paying attention to any of this? They\u2019re are just mouthing words.\u201d I mean, I was: I was just reading these prayers; I wasn\u2019t paying much attention to them; didn\u2019t know what some of the words <em>meant<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo when I wrote a paper for my confirmation class in church\u2014I\u2019m in high school\u2014I write this paper. I say, \u201cIn Matthew 6, it says that our prayers are supposed to not just be meaningless babel; it\u2019s supposed to be from our heart.\u201d I kind of came away with this view that prayer, that is not in the moment and spontaneous, is somehow not the way you\u2019re supposed to pray. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> And I thought the same thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right; you\u2019re just\/you\u2019re just supposed to pray from the moment; and anything you are reading out of a book or anything\u2014that\u2019s just the way the <em>pagans<\/em> do it; okay? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, flash-forward about 20 years; I\u2019m in New York City for the first time in my life, and I\u2019m touring New York City. I walk into Saint Patrick\u2019s Cathedral in New York. It\u2019s on a Sunday night. Mass was not happening, but Saint Patrick\u2019s is open all the time. People are walking into see it\u2014the architecture\/the whole thing. They\u2019d had services there that morning, and there was a bulletin with all of these printed prayers in it. I picked it up; and I scoffing, started looking through this; I go, \u201cYes, let\u2019s see what <em>these<\/em> prayers are all about.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI opened up to a prayer of confession, and it was a traditional prayer of confession that\u2019s used in the Catholic church and the Anglican church. It\u2019s the one that says: \u201cLord, we confess that we have sinned against You in thought, word, and deed. We have sinned with things we\u2019ve done, with things we\u2019ve left undone. We\u2019re unworthy\u2026.\u201d I\u2019m reading this, and I go, \u201cMy prayers of confession are pretty mild compared to what this is.\u201d I mean, this is really laying me bare differently than I do when I just am spontaneously going, \u2018Oh, Lord, I blew it; sorry\u2019\u201d; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll of a sudden, I realized people spend time, thoughtfully pondering what it is they want to say to God. I mean, if you got invited to go to the White House to speak to the President\u2014and they said, \u201cNow, you might want to spend a little time thinking about what you\u2019d want to say to him while you\u2019re in the Oval Office,\u201d\u2014you\u2019d probably spend a little time\u2014maybe, even jot out some notes\u2014rather than \u201cI\u2019ll just say whatever comes to mind in the moment\u201d; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe reason I bring all of this up is because of the new book, Barbara, that you have written called <em>My Heart, Ever His<\/em>, a collection of 40 prayers that reminded me, when I first saw it, of the <em>Valley of Vision<\/em> prayer book\u2014that is the old Puritan prayer book\u2014which I know you\u2019ve used. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Was there a point in your life, where you started to realize that pre-printed prayers and people spending time and thinking about how to craft a prayer, that that could be a spiritually-enriching activity? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I don\u2019t have an experience that\u2019s like yours, but I do remember getting a copy of the <em>Valley of Vision<\/em> prayers. Oh, I know\u2014previous to that, actually\u2014I started doing some digging into the life of Susanna Wesley. She wrote some prayers; I got her book. Someone printed a copy of that book\u2014it was probably in the \u201890s\u2014and I remember reading it. I <em>loved<\/em> her prayers; I loved some of the words that she used and some of the concepts. She used the word, \u201ccondescend,\u201d which is not a word that we normally use much; but she wrote about how amazing it was that God would condescend to come down to our level. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember that phrase stuck with me; and it gave me a <em>completely<\/em> different view on what God did for us, just by reading her words. They were old words, of course, because they lived hundreds of years ago. That was my first introduction to\u2014outside of the mainline church that I grew up in when I was kid\u2014like you, that was my first introduction. Then <em>The Valley of Vision<\/em> was another one, and I read that thing over and over again. Those were kind of like primers; they sort of stirred that desire in my heart, I think, over the years before I actually started doing it myself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There is something about other people giving thought and attention, and giving us words and language that wouldn\u2019t come to us on our own\u2014that causes us to go: \u201cYes, that\u2019s how I\u2019ve felt,\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s what I\u2019ve been thinking,\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s what I\u2019m going through,\u201d\u2014that can deepen our engagement with God as we go to Him in prayer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Not only that, but I think it can help teach us <em>how<\/em> to pray\u2014of what that intimacy looks like, and the honesty of what that can look like\u2014and then even how we come back to praise, and trust, and prayer to God about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me say this, Barbara\u2014I just want listeners to know that <em>you<\/em> have marked my life\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Oh. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014dramatically\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014I think, by your modeling what a woman is: a woman who walks with God, who follows God, who yearns to really grow with Him. To watch your marriage has been so inspiring and really made an impact on myself and also on Dave. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I think you\u2019re thoughtful with your words\u2014where I\u2019m one that I don\u2019t necessarily hold my words back; and they just kind of all flow out, and I don\u2019t even know what they are saying\u2014but you\u2019re thoughtful. When you say something, your words are weighty; they have a lot of meaning and weight to them. I think that your book is like that as well\u2014like your words are thoughtful\/beautiful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, when people pray these and read these, I think that they\u2019ll find that their heart resonates with your heart, and your yearnings, and your longings. You wrote a prayer on marriage\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and I\u2019d love you to, at least, read part of it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; this was a fun one to write because marriage has been, for me, wonderful. It\u2019s a gift from God, but it\u2019s been far more challenging and complicated than I ever dreamed it would be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014which most people may not assume that could be true\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It is absolutely true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014of you and Dennis, because you are the marriage experts. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes, it\u2019s absolutely true. I wrote this about marriage: \u201cWhy God, did you create marriage?\u201d my daughter asked. I remember the day she texted me that, or called and asked me that, because she was struggling too. I started with her quote. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWhy God did You create marriage?\u201d she asked. Sometimes, I wonder too. We all bought happily ever after; and too often, it is not. Your idea was conceived before Adam and Eve: Three-in-One imagined a plan to show Your oneness. Two free-will creatures formed by You: \u201cTogether,\u201d\u2014You declared to us\u2014\u201cdisplay Us on earth.\u201d That was our mission: to let people see Jesus in us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe journey has been harder than I ever imagined on that happy \u201cI do,\u201d day. There were times, Lord, You remember, when I questioned Your design\u2014wondered how we\u2019d ever get past the present crisis\u2014but by not quitting, we always arrived on the other side with new unseen strengths; endurance built into us; knowing more love, appreciation, respect than before; our foundation anchored more securely; our relationship better than ever. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI ended by saying this: \u201cMarriage Savior, no matter what trials lie ahead, I want to be found believing You and Your every word. I want my marriage to be a beacon\/a light, calling others to join us to \u2018\u2026death do us part.\u2019 May all those who see our committed union be encouraged with great hope to believe in You; because <em>nothing<\/em> is impossible for You, even marriage. Amen.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We could read that every day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; we could. [Laughter] Yes; we could. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s beautiful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And it is so well-written; as I said before, when I read it, I felt like I was in your prayer life and also in my prayer life. That was the thing\u2014it was so authentic\/so honest\u2014I\u2019m like, \u201cI\u2019ve felt these same things.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut let me ask you this\u2014even as we\u2019ve said before\u2014in some ways, your journal is much like reading a Psalm. In the Psalms, one of the questions that I\u2019m having\u2014and I\u2019m reading them right now, which is interesting, just in my own life\u2014I read Psalm 10 the other day. David did what he often does: He starts with a sort of lament or complaint, and then he ends with belief.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Like here is Psalm 10; he says: \u201cWhy, O Lord, do You stand far away? Why do You hide Yourself in times of trouble?\u201d I\u2019ve got to be honest\u2014I\u2019ve been reading one a day\u2014and so, as I started this Psalm, I\u2019m like, \u201cThere he is whining again.\u201d [Laughter] You know? I mean I like it\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I mean, like right off the bat; it\u2019s only Psalm 10. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I know. I\u2019m like, \u201cMan; I mean, every single psalm.\u201d One part I appreciate; the other part I\u2019m like, \u201cReally, dude, you\u2019re going to do it again?\u201d Then, at the end of this one, he\u2019s like: \u201cO Lord, You hear the desire of the afflicted. You will strengthen their heart. You will incline Your ear.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cWow; what a journey from honesty\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u201cWhere are You?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; \u201cWhere are You?\u201d\u2014we\u2019ve all felt that\u2014but then, by the end of the Psalm, which is 18 verses later, he has this belief. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to ask you this, because I read it even yesterday; I\u2019m like, \u201cI wonder if David wrote this Psalm in one sitting, or is this journey over days or weeks or months?\u201d Same thing for you\u2014as you walk through some valleys and some questions\u2014were these psalms in one sitting? Or does that belief and trust for you\u2014did it take time? Does it, sometimes, not come at the end of the writing of a psalm? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; I think the answer is, \u201cBoth.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I think some of them, it was just very easy to write them all in one sitting. I didn\u2019t necessarily feel like God was near when I finished writing them; I didn\u2019t feel any different at the end of it. It wasn\u2019t about changing my circumstances or feeling a different way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was a really\u2014it was really a faith exercise\u2014\u201cThis is how I feel, but this is what I know is true about You. I want You to know how I feel, but I\u2019m going to choose this\u2014I\u2019m going to choose to believe in You\u2014no matter what; because at the end of the day, I really only want one thing\u2014I want to please God\u2014that\u2019s all it is.\u201d I know He is okay with me saying what I really feel; but in the end, I\u2019m going to choose Him: I\u2019m going to choose His way, His timing, His everything; because I know He knows what He\u2019s doing. I know that, if I were in charge, it would <em>not<\/em> turn out real well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I would <em>mess<\/em> things up, and I\u2019m content to let Him have the final word. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of the prayers were really quick; but some of them, I kind of had to think through and decide, \u201cWhat do I really think about this?\u201d; so it was\/they were different. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Do you find that it is <em>healing<\/em> to write? You know, even Bob, you were saying earlier, when you would see somebody read a prayer instead of spontaneously, you think it\u2019s not as meaningful. Yet, many times, the opposite when you take the time to say, \u201cI\u2019m going to <em>write<\/em> this out.\u201d Like Bob said earlier, the prayer of confession\u2014when I\u2019ve listed my sins on a piece of paper, you\u2019re <em>gripped<\/em>\u2014it\u2019s like, \u201cOh my goodness; look how\u2014this is horrible,\u201d rather than just flippantly, like you said\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cIt\u2019s no big deal.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you wrote those down\u2014I think even the psalmists: they went on this journey that they might not have gone on unless they sat and said, \u201cI\u2019m going to write this out.\u201d Did you experience that?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014sort of this journey of healing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Agreed. Yes; absolutely, I did. I think there is something about putting it on paper that makes it concrete. When it\u2019s up here in the brain, and I\u2019m just talking to God, as I go, I get distracted\u2014I see things\u2014I mean, I just lose my train of thought. But when I was writing these out, I had to really evaluate: \u201cWhat do I feel? What do I know is true about God? How does all of this reconcile?\u201d It was very healing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m guessing that once you turned in these 40 prayers to the publisher and said, \u201cHere is my book,\u201d you\u2019ve continued the discipline? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It\u2019s not as much of a discipline as it was when I was trying to meet a deadline. [Laughter] However, I have continued to write some; and I\u2019ve enjoyed the process. Yes, I\u2019m still doing it and want to do more. I\u2019m kind of in a little bit of a lull right now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How are you different today than you were as a young mom? Is there anything that you <em>wish<\/em> you would have implemented, as a young mom, that you\u2019ve learned over the years? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> The answer is resoundingly, \u201cYes.\u201d What would it be?\u2014I\u2019m not really sure. Without question, I\u2019m radically different than I was as a young mom; because I was just trying to figure out life; I was trying to figure out marriage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re just surviving. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Absolutely; it was just surviving. I wanted to please God, and I wanted to do it God\u2019s way; but I didn\u2019t really know what that was. So I was trying to figure that out. I didn\u2019t have the space in my life to write prayers; I didn\u2019t have the space in my life to do the kind of Bible study that I have in my life right now. A lot of those years\u2014I look back\u2014and I was just frantic, really\/frantically trying to keep pace with all that was happening in my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was praying, and I was reading the Bible, and doing those things; but I didn\u2019t have the space to really <em>think<\/em>. That\u2019s what I need; that\u2019s part of the way I\u2019m wired\u2014is I need alone time\u2014I need time to kind of decompress, and think, and evaluate. I\u2019m very contemplative by nature. The nature of raising kids is not contemplation. [Laughter] It\u2019s fast-paced; it\u2019s crazy; you\u2019re constantly responding to needs and demands and all of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat was <em>hard<\/em> for me; that was a hard season of life. I <em>loved<\/em> it; I loved being a mom, but it was hard for me to keep my soul alive and refreshed because I didn\u2019t\u2014I just didn\u2019t know how to manage the chaos and everything that we dealt with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> The reason I brought that up was because I felt many of those same things when our kids were younger. I felt a sense of guilt and shame\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I did too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014that I didn\u2019t have more time\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and should be doing more. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYet, I look at the different stages of a woman\u2019s life; I think: \u201cNow, you do have the time,\u201d and \u201cWhat a great gift for the young mom, who is frantic and doesn\u2019t have the time.\u201d But to even read her Bible when she can, to read a prayer like this\u2014you could even scan through the pages\u2014like even one of your prayers is the \u201cComparison Delusion.\u201d Especially, young moms today and young women today, now we have the comparison on the internet, where we are comparing everyone in the <em>world<\/em>\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014not just our friends\u2014but <em>everyone<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014everyone.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s really important for us to not necessarily feel that guilt and shame\u2014because we might not be at a stage where we can put all the time and energy in these beautiful prayers written down\u2014but what we can do is talk to God all day long\/we\u2019re in conversation with Him. Maybe, we can read a prayer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI used to have my Bible\u2014one in the bathroom, one in my car, one on the table.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Smart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019d even have it playing\u2014I would even have the audio playing on my\u2014now, you can do it on your phone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think it\u2019s so beautiful that you have the time to do this for us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I hope what this will be for young moms is similar to me reading Susanna Wesley\u2019s prayers; because that sort of gave me that connection on another level that I had longed for, but I couldn\u2019t do on my own. I\u2019m hoping this will be that for a lot of young moms\u2014that they will be able to take a piece, or even a line, or a paragraph and really commune with God in a way that, maybe, they haven\u2019t been. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dave:<\/strong> This would be a <em>great<\/em> book for husbands to buy for their wives\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019d be a great gift. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014you know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was just thinking\u2014I might have been reminded by somebody\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but when Ann was talking about those early years, with our kids little and craziness, I\u2019d see her run into the bathroom, not having to go to the bathroom,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u2014just to go <em>hide<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014just to have a moment of time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You know the story we\u2019ve told many times\u2014but you know, when I come along and see this, I go upstairs and write, \u201cTen ways you can make your life more manageable.\u201d I literally handed her that card\u2014we\u2019ve told that story\u2014and she ripped it up and threw it away [Laughter]; but it would be much better if I handed her <em>this<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> This would be a gift to a young mom; wouldn\u2019t it?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014because it would, in your moment\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> To any mom\u2014not just a <em>young<\/em> mom\u2014to any mom\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014a woman of <em>any age<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, and Mother\u2019s Day is coming up soon; so there you go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> There you go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m wondering if you had some subjects, that you wrote prayers for\u2014where you were being empathetic as opposed to personal\u2014where you said, \u201cI know this is something that women are struggling with; and I\u2019m going to write a prayer about this, even though it\u2019s not something that\u2019s a burden on my own heart.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I\u2019m thinking about that, I\u2019m wondering if David ever did that. I\u2019m wondering if David ever sat down and said, \u201cI\u2019m going to write a psalm\/a song for Israel to sing\u2014not because I\u2019m struggling with this\u2014but because I know\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cwe are.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cwe are: as a congregation, as a country, as a nation, we are struggling with these things.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWere all of these borne out of your personal angst or were some of these because you saw\u2014what your daughters were dealing with; or you had friends, who were dealing with stuff\u2014and you wrote a prayer related to that? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I would answer by saying I think most of them were personal. The one that Ann was referring to\u2014\u201cComparison Delusion\u201d\u2014I don\u2019t struggle with it in the same way that I did when I was younger, but it\u2019s still <em>real<\/em>. It\u2019s still real, no matter what age you are; you are looking at someone else, and you are comparing all the time. So that was just as real as some of the other ones. I\u2019m not sure any of them were done, like, \u201cThis is a great topic; I need to write about this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf it wasn\u2019t borne out of personal angst, like a couple of them near the end\u2014there is one on the incarnation; there is another one on the second coming of Christ\u2014those weren\u2019t borne so much out of a personal <em>need<\/em> as much as I know: \u201cThis is true,\u201d and \u201cI want to help myself and others focus on the reality of what an amazing\/miraculous\u2014there are not words to describe what it meant for Jesus to come and become a cell; I mean, He really did that for us\u2014I mean, it is just so mind-boggling. Those two, in particular, were\u2014because I\u2019ve just been learning so much about the incomprehensible nature of God\u2014I wanted to put some of that on paper too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How many times does the psalmist declare the great glory of God? There is no personal, emotional trauma he\u2019s just going through; he\u2019s exalting in praise. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, there is a little of that in what you\u2019ve done here too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think all of your topics\/all of your prayers will hit the heart of every single woman. They did for me; honestly, they were so beautiful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Thanks. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Here is one of the things I would say to a listener\u2014that you\u2019ve modeled for us\u2014\u201cHow about tonight you pick up your pen, or digitally if you want to do it, write a prayer out?\u201d Maybe, you\u2019ve never done that before. I remember the first time I ever did that; it was a real\u2014it was sort of awkward. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019d never done it, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara<\/strong>: Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014then, as I did, it was like, \u201cWow, my real thoughts are getting down on paper.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would add this\u2014because this is what I think you modeled\u2014before you put your pencil down, ask God His heart and perspective, and listen, and write it. Don\u2019t end that just with a complaint. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Right; right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Be honest\u2014like you modeled\u2014but at the end, say, \u201cOkay; God, what are You saying to me about what I\u2019m writing here?\u201d Well, listen to the heart of God; the Spirit of God will speak. Then you\u2019ll end up\u2014where you take us almost every time\u2014\u201cI\u2019m going to still trust You in this.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s so interesting, Barbara\u2014Dave and I, when we were dating, is when our faith was new. We started journaling every day; we have those journals back from 1979. A lot of those are prayers that we wrote out and prayer requests; but it\u2014for our kids, to go back and to read those\u2014it\u2019s so amazing, because it\u2019s a glimpse into your heart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u2014into who you are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s the intimacy of love and relationship with Jesus. I love that; I love that you\u2019ve written these out. I would encourage listeners, too, like, \u201cIf you have the time, write them out, and ask God\u201d\u2014because you\u2019re right, Dave; so often, we\u2019ll pray\/we\u2019ll ask God for things; and sometimes we just need to <em>listen<\/em> and sit with Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s how you develop a relationship with God. I do think that there was something very transformational about doing this for me. I know that it positively changed my relationship with God; and I really do love Him more than I did before, and that\u2019s just a wonderful place to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You are welcome here anytime. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Oh, good. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You don\u2019t have to bring your husband along to come back. [Laughter] Thank you for the book; thanks for the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> You\u2019re welcome. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We want to encourage listeners to <em>get<\/em> your book and, not just to read through it, but to start <em>praying<\/em> their way through it. In fact, we\u2019re making the book available right now for listeners who can support the work of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, which I know is something that you\u2019ve been passionate about for a long time. <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is entirely listener-dependent. To be on this local radio station, for the podcasts to continue, for you to be able to listen when you want\/where you want, we need people like you to make that possible through your donations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can help with a donation today\u2014and I know, for many of you, this has been a difficult spring. Some of you are still reeling from all that we\u2019ve been through this spring. We\u2019re not trying to be insensitive; but you need to know that ministries like ours\u2014probably your local church\u2014we\u2019re having to deal with the impact of the coronavirus as well. 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I know that, if I were in charge, it would <em>not<\/em> turn out real well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, May 1<sup>st<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I\u2019m Bob Lepine. You can find us online at FamilyLifeToday.com. Jesus taught us, as His disciples, how to pray; but He also says, \u201cCome to Me when you are weary and heavy laden, and I\u2019ll give you rest.\u201d Barbara Rainey joins us today to talk about prayer. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I have to tell you guys a story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I love, Bob! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> This is story time. Here we go! Yes! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You ready for my story? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Story time with Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And before I tell the story, let me just welcome back to the studio with us again, Barbara Rainey, who is joining us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Thank you, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019ve already mentioned that she is here without her husband, which is an unusual circumstance; but we\u2019re having a great conversation about prayer, which is the story I wanted to tell you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I was in high school, the church I went to in high school was a traditional, mainline church, where on Sunday at the worship service, there would be prayers that would be read out of the bulletin. I remember thinking: \u201cIs anybody even paying attention to any of this? They\u2019re are just mouthing words.\u201d I mean, I was: I was just reading these prayers; I wasn\u2019t paying much attention to them; didn\u2019t know what some of the words <em>meant<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo when I wrote a paper for my confirmation class in church\u2014I\u2019m in high school\u2014I write this paper. I say, \u201cIn Matthew 6, it says that our prayers are supposed to not just be meaningless babel; it\u2019s supposed to be from our heart.\u201d I kind of came away with this view that prayer, that is not in the moment and spontaneous, is somehow not the way you\u2019re supposed to pray. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> And I thought the same thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right; you\u2019re just\/you\u2019re just supposed to pray from the moment; and anything you are reading out of a book or anything\u2014that\u2019s just the way the <em>pagans<\/em> do it; okay? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, flash-forward about 20 years; I\u2019m in New York City for the first time in my life, and I\u2019m touring New York City. I walk into Saint Patrick\u2019s Cathedral in New York. It\u2019s on a Sunday night. Mass was not happening, but Saint Patrick\u2019s is open all the time. People are walking into see it\u2014the architecture\/the whole thing. They\u2019d had services there that morning, and there was a bulletin with all of these printed prayers in it. I picked it up; and I scoffing, started looking through this; I go, \u201cYes, let\u2019s see what <em>these<\/em> prayers are all about.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI opened up to a prayer of confession, and it was a traditional prayer of confession that\u2019s used in the Catholic church and the Anglican church. It\u2019s the one that says: \u201cLord, we confess that we have sinned against You in thought, word, and deed. We have sinned with things we\u2019ve done, with things we\u2019ve left undone. We\u2019re unworthy\u2026.\u201d I\u2019m reading this, and I go, \u201cMy prayers of confession are pretty mild compared to what this is.\u201d I mean, this is really laying me bare differently than I do when I just am spontaneously going, \u2018Oh, Lord, I blew it; sorry\u2019\u201d; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll of a sudden, I realized people spend time, thoughtfully pondering what it is they want to say to God. I mean, if you got invited to go to the White House to speak to the President\u2014and they said, \u201cNow, you might want to spend a little time thinking about what you\u2019d want to say to him while you\u2019re in the Oval Office,\u201d\u2014you\u2019d probably spend a little time\u2014maybe, even jot out some notes\u2014rather than \u201cI\u2019ll just say whatever comes to mind in the moment\u201d; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe reason I bring all of this up is because of the new book, Barbara, that you have written called <em>My Heart, Ever His<\/em>, a collection of 40 prayers that reminded me, when I first saw it, of the <em>Valley of Vision<\/em> prayer book\u2014that is the old Puritan prayer book\u2014which I know you\u2019ve used. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Was there a point in your life, where you started to realize that pre-printed prayers and people spending time and thinking about how to craft a prayer, that that could be a spiritually-enriching activity? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I don\u2019t have an experience that\u2019s like yours, but I do remember getting a copy of the <em>Valley of Vision<\/em> prayers. Oh, I know\u2014previous to that, actually\u2014I started doing some digging into the life of Susanna Wesley. She wrote some prayers; I got her book. Someone printed a copy of that book\u2014it was probably in the \u201890s\u2014and I remember reading it. I <em>loved<\/em> her prayers; I loved some of the words that she used and some of the concepts. She used the word, \u201ccondescend,\u201d which is not a word that we normally use much; but she wrote about how amazing it was that God would condescend to come down to our level. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember that phrase stuck with me; and it gave me a <em>completely<\/em> different view on what God did for us, just by reading her words. They were old words, of course, because they lived hundreds of years ago. That was my first introduction to\u2014outside of the mainline church that I grew up in when I was kid\u2014like you, that was my first introduction. Then <em>The Valley of Vision<\/em> was another one, and I read that thing over and over again. Those were kind of like primers; they sort of stirred that desire in my heart, I think, over the years before I actually started doing it myself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There is something about other people giving thought and attention, and giving us words and language that wouldn\u2019t come to us on our own\u2014that causes us to go: \u201cYes, that\u2019s how I\u2019ve felt,\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s what I\u2019ve been thinking,\u201d \u201cThat\u2019s what I\u2019m going through,\u201d\u2014that can deepen our engagement with God as we go to Him in prayer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Not only that, but I think it can help teach us <em>how<\/em> to pray\u2014of what that intimacy looks like, and the honesty of what that can look like\u2014and then even how we come back to praise, and trust, and prayer to God about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me say this, Barbara\u2014I just want listeners to know that <em>you<\/em> have marked my life\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Oh. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014dramatically\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014I think, by your modeling what a woman is: a woman who walks with God, who follows God, who yearns to really grow with Him. To watch your marriage has been so inspiring and really made an impact on myself and also on Dave. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I think you\u2019re thoughtful with your words\u2014where I\u2019m one that I don\u2019t necessarily hold my words back; and they just kind of all flow out, and I don\u2019t even know what they are saying\u2014but you\u2019re thoughtful. When you say something, your words are weighty; they have a lot of meaning and weight to them. I think that your book is like that as well\u2014like your words are thoughtful\/beautiful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, when people pray these and read these, I think that they\u2019ll find that their heart resonates with your heart, and your yearnings, and your longings. You wrote a prayer on marriage\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and I\u2019d love you to, at least, read part of it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; this was a fun one to write because marriage has been, for me, wonderful. It\u2019s a gift from God, but it\u2019s been far more challenging and complicated than I ever dreamed it would be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014which most people may not assume that could be true\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It is absolutely true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014of you and Dennis, because you are the marriage experts. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes, it\u2019s absolutely true. I wrote this about marriage: \u201cWhy God, did you create marriage?\u201d my daughter asked. I remember the day she texted me that, or called and asked me that, because she was struggling too. I started with her quote. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWhy God did You create marriage?\u201d she asked. Sometimes, I wonder too. We all bought happily ever after; and too often, it is not. Your idea was conceived before Adam and Eve: Three-in-One imagined a plan to show Your oneness. Two free-will creatures formed by You: \u201cTogether,\u201d\u2014You declared to us\u2014\u201cdisplay Us on earth.\u201d That was our mission: to let people see Jesus in us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe journey has been harder than I ever imagined on that happy \u201cI do,\u201d day. There were times, Lord, You remember, when I questioned Your design\u2014wondered how we\u2019d ever get past the present crisis\u2014but by not quitting, we always arrived on the other side with new unseen strengths; endurance built into us; knowing more love, appreciation, respect than before; our foundation anchored more securely; our relationship better than ever. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI ended by saying this: \u201cMarriage Savior, no matter what trials lie ahead, I want to be found believing You and Your every word. I want my marriage to be a beacon\/a light, calling others to join us to \u2018\u2026death do us part.\u2019 May all those who see our committed union be encouraged with great hope to believe in You; because <em>nothing<\/em> is impossible for You, even marriage. Amen.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> We could read that every day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; we could. [Laughter] Yes; we could. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s beautiful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And it is so well-written; as I said before, when I read it, I felt like I was in your prayer life and also in my prayer life. That was the thing\u2014it was so authentic\/so honest\u2014I\u2019m like, \u201cI\u2019ve felt these same things.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut let me ask you this\u2014even as we\u2019ve said before\u2014in some ways, your journal is much like reading a Psalm. In the Psalms, one of the questions that I\u2019m having\u2014and I\u2019m reading them right now, which is interesting, just in my own life\u2014I read Psalm 10 the other day. David did what he often does: He starts with a sort of lament or complaint, and then he ends with belief.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Like here is Psalm 10; he says: \u201cWhy, O Lord, do You stand far away? Why do You hide Yourself in times of trouble?\u201d I\u2019ve got to be honest\u2014I\u2019ve been reading one a day\u2014and so, as I started this Psalm, I\u2019m like, \u201cThere he is whining again.\u201d [Laughter] You know? I mean I like it\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I mean, like right off the bat; it\u2019s only Psalm 10. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I know. I\u2019m like, \u201cMan; I mean, every single psalm.\u201d One part I appreciate; the other part I\u2019m like, \u201cReally, dude, you\u2019re going to do it again?\u201d Then, at the end of this one, he\u2019s like: \u201cO Lord, You hear the desire of the afflicted. You will strengthen their heart. You will incline Your ear.\u201d I\u2019m like, \u201cWow; what a journey from honesty\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u201cWhere are You?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; \u201cWhere are You?\u201d\u2014we\u2019ve all felt that\u2014but then, by the end of the Psalm, which is 18 verses later, he has this belief. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to ask you this, because I read it even yesterday; I\u2019m like, \u201cI wonder if David wrote this Psalm in one sitting, or is this journey over days or weeks or months?\u201d Same thing for you\u2014as you walk through some valleys and some questions\u2014were these psalms in one sitting? Or does that belief and trust for you\u2014did it take time? Does it, sometimes, not come at the end of the writing of a psalm? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; I think the answer is, \u201cBoth.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I think some of them, it was just very easy to write them all in one sitting. I didn\u2019t necessarily feel like God was near when I finished writing them; I didn\u2019t feel any different at the end of it. It wasn\u2019t about changing my circumstances or feeling a different way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was a really\u2014it was really a faith exercise\u2014\u201cThis is how I feel, but this is what I know is true about You. I want You to know how I feel, but I\u2019m going to choose this\u2014I\u2019m going to choose to believe in You\u2014no matter what; because at the end of the day, I really only want one thing\u2014I want to please God\u2014that\u2019s all it is.\u201d I know He is okay with me saying what I really feel; but in the end, I\u2019m going to choose Him: I\u2019m going to choose His way, His timing, His everything; because I know He knows what He\u2019s doing. I know that, if I were in charge, it would <em>not<\/em> turn out real well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I would <em>mess<\/em> things up, and I\u2019m content to let Him have the final word. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of the prayers were really quick; but some of them, I kind of had to think through and decide, \u201cWhat do I really think about this?\u201d; so it was\/they were different. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Do you find that it is <em>healing<\/em> to write? You know, even Bob, you were saying earlier, when you would see somebody read a prayer instead of spontaneously, you think it\u2019s not as meaningful. Yet, many times, the opposite when you take the time to say, \u201cI\u2019m going to <em>write<\/em> this out.\u201d Like Bob said earlier, the prayer of confession\u2014when I\u2019ve listed my sins on a piece of paper, you\u2019re <em>gripped<\/em>\u2014it\u2019s like, \u201cOh my goodness; look how\u2014this is horrible,\u201d rather than just flippantly, like you said\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cIt\u2019s no big deal.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you wrote those down\u2014I think even the psalmists: they went on this journey that they might not have gone on unless they sat and said, \u201cI\u2019m going to write this out.\u201d Did you experience that?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014sort of this journey of healing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Agreed. Yes; absolutely, I did. I think there is something about putting it on paper that makes it concrete. When it\u2019s up here in the brain, and I\u2019m just talking to God, as I go, I get distracted\u2014I see things\u2014I mean, I just lose my train of thought. But when I was writing these out, I had to really evaluate: \u201cWhat do I feel? What do I know is true about God? How does all of this reconcile?\u201d It was very healing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m guessing that once you turned in these 40 prayers to the publisher and said, \u201cHere is my book,\u201d you\u2019ve continued the discipline? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It\u2019s not as much of a discipline as it was when I was trying to meet a deadline. [Laughter] However, I have continued to write some; and I\u2019ve enjoyed the process. Yes, I\u2019m still doing it and want to do more. I\u2019m kind of in a little bit of a lull right now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> How are you different today than you were as a young mom? Is there anything that you <em>wish<\/em> you would have implemented, as a young mom, that you\u2019ve learned over the years? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> The answer is resoundingly, \u201cYes.\u201d What would it be?\u2014I\u2019m not really sure. Without question, I\u2019m radically different than I was as a young mom; because I was just trying to figure out life; I was trying to figure out marriage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> You\u2019re just surviving. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Absolutely; it was just surviving. I wanted to please God, and I wanted to do it God\u2019s way; but I didn\u2019t really know what that was. So I was trying to figure that out. I didn\u2019t have the space in my life to write prayers; I didn\u2019t have the space in my life to do the kind of Bible study that I have in my life right now. A lot of those years\u2014I look back\u2014and I was just frantic, really\/frantically trying to keep pace with all that was happening in my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was praying, and I was reading the Bible, and doing those things; but I didn\u2019t have the space to really <em>think<\/em>. That\u2019s what I need; that\u2019s part of the way I\u2019m wired\u2014is I need alone time\u2014I need time to kind of decompress, and think, and evaluate. I\u2019m very contemplative by nature. The nature of raising kids is not contemplation. [Laughter] It\u2019s fast-paced; it\u2019s crazy; you\u2019re constantly responding to needs and demands and all of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat was <em>hard<\/em> for me; that was a hard season of life. I <em>loved<\/em> it; I loved being a mom, but it was hard for me to keep my soul alive and refreshed because I didn\u2019t\u2014I just didn\u2019t know how to manage the chaos and everything that we dealt with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> The reason I brought that up was because I felt many of those same things when our kids were younger. I felt a sense of guilt and shame\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I did too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014that I didn\u2019t have more time\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and should be doing more. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYet, I look at the different stages of a woman\u2019s life; I think: \u201cNow, you do have the time,\u201d and \u201cWhat a great gift for the young mom, who is frantic and doesn\u2019t have the time.\u201d But to even read her Bible when she can, to read a prayer like this\u2014you could even scan through the pages\u2014like even one of your prayers is the \u201cComparison Delusion.\u201d Especially, young moms today and young women today, now we have the comparison on the internet, where we are comparing everyone in the <em>world<\/em>\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014not just our friends\u2014but <em>everyone<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014everyone.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s really important for us to not necessarily feel that guilt and shame\u2014because we might not be at a stage where we can put all the time and energy in these beautiful prayers written down\u2014but what we can do is talk to God all day long\/we\u2019re in conversation with Him. Maybe, we can read a prayer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI used to have my Bible\u2014one in the bathroom, one in my car, one on the table.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Smart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019d even have it playing\u2014I would even have the audio playing on my\u2014now, you can do it on your phone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think it\u2019s so beautiful that you have the time to do this for us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I hope what this will be for young moms is similar to me reading Susanna Wesley\u2019s prayers; because that sort of gave me that connection on another level that I had longed for, but I couldn\u2019t do on my own. I\u2019m hoping this will be that for a lot of young moms\u2014that they will be able to take a piece, or even a line, or a paragraph and really commune with God in a way that, maybe, they haven\u2019t been. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dave:<\/strong> This would be a <em>great<\/em> book for husbands to buy for their wives\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019d be a great gift. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014you know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was just thinking\u2014I might have been reminded by somebody\u2014[Laughter]\u2014but when Ann was talking about those early years, with our kids little and craziness, I\u2019d see her run into the bathroom, not having to go to the bathroom,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u2014just to go <em>hide<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014just to have a moment of time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You know the story we\u2019ve told many times\u2014but you know, when I come along and see this, I go upstairs and write, \u201cTen ways you can make your life more manageable.\u201d I literally handed her that card\u2014we\u2019ve told that story\u2014and she ripped it up and threw it away [Laughter]; but it would be much better if I handed her <em>this<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> This would be a gift to a young mom; wouldn\u2019t it?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014because it would, in your moment\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> To any mom\u2014not just a <em>young<\/em> mom\u2014to any mom\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014a woman of <em>any age<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, and Mother\u2019s Day is coming up soon; so there you go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> There you go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m wondering if you had some subjects, that you wrote prayers for\u2014where you were being empathetic as opposed to personal\u2014where you said, \u201cI know this is something that women are struggling with; and I\u2019m going to write a prayer about this, even though it\u2019s not something that\u2019s a burden on my own heart.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I\u2019m thinking about that, I\u2019m wondering if David ever did that. I\u2019m wondering if David ever sat down and said, \u201cI\u2019m going to write a psalm\/a song for Israel to sing\u2014not because I\u2019m struggling with this\u2014but because I know\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cwe are.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cwe are: as a congregation, as a country, as a nation, we are struggling with these things.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWere all of these borne out of your personal angst or were some of these because you saw\u2014what your daughters were dealing with; or you had friends, who were dealing with stuff\u2014and you wrote a prayer related to that? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I would answer by saying I think most of them were personal. The one that Ann was referring to\u2014\u201cComparison Delusion\u201d\u2014I don\u2019t struggle with it in the same way that I did when I was younger, but it\u2019s still <em>real<\/em>. It\u2019s still real, no matter what age you are; you are looking at someone else, and you are comparing all the time. So that was just as real as some of the other ones. I\u2019m not sure any of them were done, like, \u201cThis is a great topic; I need to write about this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf it wasn\u2019t borne out of personal angst, like a couple of them near the end\u2014there is one on the incarnation; there is another one on the second coming of Christ\u2014those weren\u2019t borne so much out of a personal <em>need<\/em> as much as I know: \u201cThis is true,\u201d and \u201cI want to help myself and others focus on the reality of what an amazing\/miraculous\u2014there are not words to describe what it meant for Jesus to come and become a cell; I mean, He really did that for us\u2014I mean, it is just so mind-boggling. Those two, in particular, were\u2014because I\u2019ve just been learning so much about the incomprehensible nature of God\u2014I wanted to put some of that on paper too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How many times does the psalmist declare the great glory of God? There is no personal, emotional trauma he\u2019s just going through; he\u2019s exalting in praise. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, there is a little of that in what you\u2019ve done here too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think all of your topics\/all of your prayers will hit the heart of every single woman. They did for me; honestly, they were so beautiful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Thanks. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Here is one of the things I would say to a listener\u2014that you\u2019ve modeled for us\u2014\u201cHow about tonight you pick up your pen, or digitally if you want to do it, write a prayer out?\u201d Maybe, you\u2019ve never done that before. I remember the first time I ever did that; it was a real\u2014it was sort of awkward. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019d never done it, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara<\/strong>: Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014then, as I did, it was like, \u201cWow, my real thoughts are getting down on paper.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would add this\u2014because this is what I think you modeled\u2014before you put your pencil down, ask God His heart and perspective, and listen, and write it. Don\u2019t end that just with a complaint. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Right; right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Be honest\u2014like you modeled\u2014but at the end, say, \u201cOkay; God, what are You saying to me about what I\u2019m writing here?\u201d Well, listen to the heart of God; the Spirit of God will speak. Then you\u2019ll end up\u2014where you take us almost every time\u2014\u201cI\u2019m going to still trust You in this.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s so interesting, Barbara\u2014Dave and I, when we were dating, is when our faith was new. We started journaling every day; we have those journals back from 1979. A lot of those are prayers that we wrote out and prayer requests; but it\u2014for our kids, to go back and to read those\u2014it\u2019s so amazing, because it\u2019s a glimpse into your heart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u2014into who you are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s the intimacy of love and relationship with Jesus. I love that; I love that you\u2019ve written these out. I would encourage listeners, too, like, \u201cIf you have the time, write them out, and ask God\u201d\u2014because you\u2019re right, Dave; so often, we\u2019ll pray\/we\u2019ll ask God for things; and sometimes we just need to <em>listen<\/em> and sit with Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s how you develop a relationship with God. I do think that there was something very transformational about doing this for me. I know that it positively changed my relationship with God; and I really do love Him more than I did before, and that\u2019s just a wonderful place to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You are welcome here anytime. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Oh, good. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You don\u2019t have to bring your husband along to come back. [Laughter] Thank you for the book; thanks for the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> You\u2019re welcome. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We want to encourage listeners to <em>get<\/em> your book and, not just to read through it, but to start <em>praying<\/em> their way through it. In fact, we\u2019re making the book available right now for listeners who can support the work of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, which I know is something that you\u2019ve been passionate about for a long time. <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is entirely listener-dependent. To be on this local radio station, for the podcasts to continue, for you to be able to listen when you want\/where you want, we need people like you to make that possible through your donations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can help with a donation today\u2014and I know, for many of you, this has been a difficult spring. Some of you are still reeling from all that we\u2019ve been through this spring. We\u2019re not trying to be insensitive; but you need to know that ministries like ours\u2014probably your local church\u2014we\u2019re having to deal with the impact of the coronavirus as well. So if you are able to help with a donation, right now is a particularly helpful and strategic time for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com; make an online donation, and request a copy of Barbara Rainey\u2019s book, <em>My Heart, Ever His<\/em>; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY; make a donation over the phone. Again, ask for Barbara\u2019s new book, and we\u2019re happy to send it out to you as a thank-you gift for your ongoing support of the work of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We\u2019re grateful for your partnership with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you have a great weekend. I hope you and your family are able to make some memories together this weekend and worship together. I hope you can join us Monday when we\u2019re going to introduce you to Esther Fleece Allen, who has learned the importance of just being honest and authentic, even when it means people know about the messiness of your life. 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