{"id":305863,"date":"2020-03-21T07:00:04","date_gmt":"2020-03-21T11:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/dealing-with-parental-anxiety\/"},"modified":"2020-03-21T07:00:04","modified_gmt":"2020-03-21T11:00:04","slug":"dealing-with-parental-anxiety","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-this-week\/dealing-with-parental-anxiety\/","title":{"rendered":"Dealing With Parental Anxiety"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bob Lepine, Dennis Rainey, Winfred Neely, Jeff and Debbie Schreve, and Tim Challies explain how they entrust their children to the Lord&#8217;s care.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"http:\/\/d2c17sq0nj1f7e.cloudfront.net\/flw2020-03-21.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:28:00","filesize":"25.64M","filesize_raw":"26883192","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2848,2834],"tags":[2209],"podcast_series":[],"cwp_profile":[3048,3304,9604,8842],"series":[10388],"class_list":["post-305863","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","hentry","category-cultural-issues","category-praying-for-your-children","tag-parenting","cwp_profile-dennis-rainey","cwp_profile-jeff-and-debbie-schreve","cwp_profile-tim-challies","cwp_profile-winfred-neely","series-familylife-this-week"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":false,"episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/10\/FLTW-Podcast-Cover-2-1400x1400-1-300x300-1.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/305863\/dealing-with-parental-anxiety","player_link":"https:\/\/dts.podtrac.com\/redirect.mp3\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/305863\/dealing-with-parental-anxiety","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-this-week","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"owDh1mYXFH\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-this-week\/dealing-with-parental-anxiety\/\">Dealing With Parental Anxiety<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-this-week\/dealing-with-parental-anxiety\/embed\/#?secret=owDh1mYXFH\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Dealing With Parental Anxiety&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"owDh1mYXFH\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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And that\u2019s certainly a noble thought, but doesn\u2019t that instill some fear and worry in you moms and dads? Here\u2019s author Wynter Pitts.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Wynter:<\/strong> You know, as parents, we say, \u201cGod, use my kids! Use them to impact Your kingdom.\u201d But when that starts to happen, that can make us a little afraid as parents. It\u2019s easy to say we want our kids to do that, and it\u2019s hard to watch them; but we\u2019re going to prepare them to be the ones that are going to stand out and fight against what\u2019s happening in the world around us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> We\u2019re going to talk about how to survive those worrisome parenting decisions by turning our worry into peace on this edition of <em>FamilyLife This Week. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWelcome to <em>FamilyLife This Week. <\/em>I\u2019m Michelle Hill. Have you ever had an irrational fear?\u2014you know, something that you know is not going to happen; but yet, you\u2019re still afraid that it just might? Like I have this fear of heights. To climb a mountain\u2014well, actually, I was at the top of a mountain a while back; and I had a hard time getting down, because I\u2019m scared. I\u2019m scared of falling! Then, well, you know what would happen if I ended up falling all those feet down, down, down; tumbling down. It\u2019s an irrational fear. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tParents, do you have irrational fears?\u2014you know, afraid that your kid, while being buckled into your car, is going to be stolen when you turn your back? What about them just falling and breaking their neck when they\u2019re playing outside\/climbing a tree? Or what about, you know, the dog that seems to love your child; well, one day, they might just bite them?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know what you\u2019re thinking. Those instances just might have happened. And maybe they happened to you. But still, worry does seem to be a natural part of life; right? I\u2019m told by many moms that, when you have children, well, you\u2019ll understand the depth of their worry. I\u2019m not here to tell you: \u201cYou have to stop,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s the Holy Spirit\u2019s job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, it was in the Sermon on the Mount, that Jesus gave at the beginning of His ministry, He said, \u201cDo not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink, nor for your body, as to what you will put on.\u201d Well, that sounds pretty clear to me; but I\u2019ll admit, it is hard not to fear, and to leave your worries behind.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere are Bob Lepine and Dennis Rainey, talking about worry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em><sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Broadcast]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I have been known to have some anxiety from time to time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> One of my\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let me see if\u2014I\u2019m just going to test your musical knowledge here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Just test your musical knowledge.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Bob! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m just going to see if you can pick out this song; okay? I\u2019m going to sing a little bit of the song; see if you can pick it out. [Humming] You got it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> <em>Be Happy<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What\u2019s the first part? [Singing] \u201cDon\u2019t worry; be happy!\u201d I just thought that would be a good way for us to talk about <em>your<\/em> favorite emotion; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I wouldn\u2019t say it\u2019s my <em>favorite<\/em> emotion! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I guess that\u2019s true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019m all over love! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But you\u2014if you\u2019ve struggled with a negative emotion in your life, this has been the one; hasn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No, no, no; I\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m not picking on you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I don\u2019t feel picked on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You have said this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I would say this is a propensity of mine\u2014to worry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> My mom called me a \u201cworry wart,\u201d because I caused her so [many] problems. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m not doing a good job juggling the things that I\u2019m concerned about that have, ultimately, downgraded into worry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Those three o\u2019clock in the morning mornings, where you just wake up?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, yes; where you\u2019re just stewing on stuff\/thinking about it. It\u2019s a waste of time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Just like Dennis said, \u201cIt\u2019s a waste of time.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s what I was trying to show you\u2014is that, for some people, worry is a part of life; it\u2019s one of those thorns in your flesh. As you heard Dennis Rainey\u2014who, like I said, is co-founder of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and he is who I would consider a giant in the faith\u2014even <em>he<\/em> struggles with worry, but he knows where to take it!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I know there\u2019s a mom listening\u2014and maybe it\u2019s you\u2014who is saying, \u201cI have every right to worry! It\u2019s a mom\u2019s intuition,\u201d or \u201cIt\u2019s a mom\u2019s prerogative.\u201d And it\u2019s not just moms; sometimes it\u2019s dads. Dennis\u2014he is a dad! You have to make sure that your child lives to ride that bike, to graduate from high school, and to walk down the aisle. Keeping them alive\u2014well, it\u2019s not small feat! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want you to hear the story of a young man, who <em>loved<\/em> to push boundaries. There was one boundary that he pushed too far with his mom. Here\u2019s author and pastor, Winfred Neely, talking with Dennis Rainey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Were you a worry to her?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWinfred:\u00a0Yes! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Give me a fist bump, because I was the worry wart to my mom. How did you worry her? Did you kind of push the boundaries?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWinfred:\u00a0Push the boundaries is an understatement! I did some crazy\u2014you know, I kind of look back at that person, and I ask myself, \u201cWho was that person?!\u201d That person, of course, was\u00a0me. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Yes! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWinfred:\u00a0I think about some of the things that I\u00a0did\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Tell them about the go-cart\u2014the night you were entrusted by your mom to go ride some go-carts.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> Yes; well, as graduation from elementary school, this was a big deal!\u2014a big accomplishment!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Celebrate!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> Yes, celebrate. And so my parents, you know, they had kind of a tight hold on us, growing up. So I asked <em>her<\/em> if I could go with some friends of mine on a bus to another part of the city of Chicago. She <em>agreed<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re like 12 years old?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> Well, 13.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you\u2019re going on the bus\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> I\u2019m going on a bus\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014with your friends?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay; alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> \u2014to another part of Chicago, without any adult supervision.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> Some older teenagers were going with us. Now, she gives me some very clear instructions: \u201cOkay, Winfred. You be back home by ten o\u2019clock. Do you understand me?\u201d \u201cYes, Mom.\u201d So I burst out of the house, full of excitement. I get over here to Go-Cart Land; I just decided to ignore Mom\u2019s curfew. I lost\/I deliberately lost track of time. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ve never heard\u2014I\u2019ve never heard that term before. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s put well; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It is! [Laughter] I did that, too, one time!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> I look back on it now. She didn\u2019t know where I was!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There were no cell phones.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> There were no cell phones in 1968.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> We didn\u2019t have iPhones. Now, we had phone booths! You remember Superman films? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> How Superman used to get into the phone booth and go\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> So we had a lot of phone booths around the city of Chicago! All I had to do was go into a phone booth, put a quarter in there, call Mom, and say: \u201cMother, I\u2019m running late. I\u2019m okay. I\u2019m on my way.\u201d That would have <em>eased<\/em> her anxiety. It never even <em>occurred<\/em> to me to do that!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So how late were you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> Well, I think I got back\u2014it was <em>way<\/em> after ten. It was probably around \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t11 o\u2019clock\/11:15 at night in Chicago.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201413-year-old.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> \u201413-year-old. So I thought I would try the tippy-toe routine. [Whispering] \u201cI\u2019m just going to tippy-toe into the house\u201d; you know? [Laughter] And my <em>father<\/em> was asleep; that\u2019s interesting. That\u2019s interesting; Daddy just decided, \u201cI\u2019m not gonna\u2014okay, Lou\u201d\u2014that was my mother, Annie Lou\u2014\u2018Ill let you deal with this.\u201d [Laughter] Daddy went to <em>bed<\/em>; Daddy was asleep.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI opened the back door, and my mother came around the corner like Wonder Woman. [Laughter] I mean, I can still see it! I can still see the strange mingling of love and fury, at once, in her eyes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s a good description; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> \u201cBoy! Why are you so late?!\u201d She gave me a piece of her mind; she was very disappointed that I did not respect the curfew.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Ohhh, I have a similar story. I\u2019m sure we <em>all<\/em> do\u2014similar to Winfred\u2019s. You know, I was old enough to drive\u2014so, probably, about 16\u2014I went out with some friends. My curfew was 10:30; and at 10:30, well\u2014I made sure I was safely at my best friend\u2019s house, just a mile down the road. You know, all good; right? I mean, in my teenaged mind, \u201cSure!\u201d No; when I arrived home at midnight, my mom was sitting by the front door! Yes, I can understand what Winfred was talking about with the love and the fury! [Laughter] Which one won out that night?\u2014I\u2019m not exactly sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you know, it\u2019s one thing to be the child and have your parents worry about you, but it\u2019s another thing to be the parent and worry about your children. Winfred Neely has been on both sides of that equation. He\u2019s grown now; he\u2019s married to Stephanie; has a family of his own. He remembers when they were young missionaries in Africa, and his son, Sterling, got very, very sick. Of course, he began to worry. Here\u2019s Winfred.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> You know, malaria was common; so it was not an uncommon for missionaries in that part of the world to, you know, get malaria. I mean, it\u2019s almost like the common cold. So they have medicines you take and things like that, and you\u2019ll be okay in a few days. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe thought Sterling had malaria, but there was something else. Stephanie noticed it first,\u00a0 that there was something going on with him. We were giving him the malaria meds, and he was not getting better. He was becoming lethargic, breathing was labored. We took him to a pediatrician in Dakar, and he started treating Sterling for typhoid.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, that really got to us, because we had seen a number of things happen during this season in our lives. You know, just, \u201cWhat is God doing? Why is He allowing this to happen?\u201d We know that God is good; but when you are in a situation, where you cannot\u2014as one preacher says\u2014\u201cYou cannot trace God\u2019s providential hand, you\u2019ve got to learn to trust His heart in situations like that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe fact that Sterling was sick, in combination with these big theological questions that we were raising, deepened our anxiety. Again, we had to release Sterling to the Lord. Now, we did what we were supposed to do. We gave him the appropriate meds; we made sure that we kept him hydrated; we carried out our responsibility, understanding, ultimately, only God can restore him. That\u2019s what we did: we prayed, and we experienced the peace of God in the midst of this situation. And the Lord restored our little boy to health.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0So what\u2019s been the biggest faith challenge to that spiritual muscle that you\u2019re talking about? What\u2019s been the number one issue that you had to take before God and say, \u201cGod, I don\u2019t know what You\u2019re up to, but I want to trust You with it\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWinfred:\u00a0This is going to seem strange. It\u2019s my own feelings; it\u2019s my own feelings.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn other words, because of the way that I\u2019m wired, I have a tendency to go with my feelings. My feelings are telling me one thing\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> \u2014God\u2019s Word is telling me something else. So now, I have a decision to make: whether I\u2019m going to go with my feelings or whether I\u2019m going to go with Scripture. When I have gone with Scripture, Dennis, I have found\u2014whenever I trust God and take God at His Word, based on Scripture\u2014I have found the peace of God is released in my heart and mind through the ministry of the Spirit of God. That\u2019s been my biggest challenge.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tInterestingly enough, I\u2019m 63 years old now, and I think it was when I was in my 50s when God starts to wean me off of my feelings so that I learned to take Him at His Word. I want to suggest that that\u2019s one of the big problems in post-Modern\/post-Christian culture. It\u2019s this feeling-driven\u2014we are too driven by feelings. We have to stop making these decisions, based on how we feel; find out what God\u2019s Word says about any particular issue, and take God at His Word. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> Then, when we do that, we will experience peace; and that\u2019s a big challenge. That sounds easy, but it is a major spiritual breakthrough in one\u2019s life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Wow! Just what Winfred Neely is talking about\u2014it does sound easy: \u201cStop worrying! Stop worrying!\u201d It sounds <em>so simple<\/em>, but it also is very, very hard. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHey! We need to take a break, but when we come back, we\u2019re going to take a look at what the definition of worry really is and \u201cHow do we just lay those burdens and those fears at the foot of the cross?\u201d We\u2019ll take a look at that when we come back. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Radio Station Spot Break]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Welcome back to <em>FamilyLife This Week<\/em>. I'm Michelle Hill. Today, we are talking about fear and worry and just \u201cWhat do we do with those runaway emotions?\u2014how do we reel them back in?\u201d You know, when I\u2019m on top of that mountain, and I\u2019m scared to get down, what helps me is when I really step back from the situation and specifically define what I am scared of: the outcome. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we\u2019re talking about that, we really need to know, \u201cWhat\u2019s the true definition of worry?\u201d For that, we turn to pastor and author, Jeff Schreve. He is joined by his wife, Debbie. They\u2019re talking with Dennis Rainey and Bob Lepine, just all about worry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong> Worry is the uneasiness that we feel in view of an anticipated loss, whether real or imagined, of something or someone we value. For instance, if my daughter is driving from Texarkana to Houston, I may worry about her safety; because\u2014especially when she was really a novice\/rookie driver\u2014we would worry, \u201cOh, is she going to make it?\u201d \u201cCall us; let us know\u2026\u201d We were probably increasing her opportunity to get in a wreck as we were texting her all the way; you know? [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNothing happened on any of those occasions, but we would be anxious about it because we anticipated, \u201cHey, this\u00a0could\u00a0happen.\u201d So, you know, most of the things we worry about, as individuals, never happen. There was a statistic done\u2014I can\u2019t remember the exact number\u2014but it was\u00a0so high of the things we worry about\u2014you know, 50 or \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t60 percent of those things will <em>never<\/em> happen\u2014but we still worry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Bob:\u00a0And let me\u2014because I\u2019ve been picking on Dennis here about the fact that worry is an issue for him\u2014let\u2019s be honest, that a person who never worries about anything, is irresponsible\/is, maybe, in denial. The person who goes, \u201cI\u2019m not worried about anything!\u201d We\u2019re supposed to be alert to our surroundings; we\u2019re supposed to be cautious and on guard. When does worry become sinful?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJeff:\u00a0Well, I think that, you know, Jesus told us, \u201cDon\u2019t worry.\u201d In Matthew, Chapter 6, which I talk about in the chapter on worry, three times in ten verses: \u201cDo not be worried,\u201d \u201cDo not be worried,\u201d \u201cDo not worry. Don\u2019t be anxious about tomorrow for tomorrow will take care of itself.\u201d I think anytime that concern moves into worry and \u201cI\u2019m fretting about this,\u201d and \u201cI\u2019m wringing my hands about this,\u201d we have crossed the line. Now we\u2019ve gone into where it\u2019s not just, \u201cI\u2019m responsible\u201d; but now, I\u2019ve crossed over.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0So, can I tell when my concern becomes sinful worry? Is there a line I can cross?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJeff:\u00a0Well, I think when you lose your sense of peace. You can\u2019t sleep at night; that thing is going through your mind. You know, what it boils down to is: \u201cWait a minute! I\u2019m not trusting God here,\u201d because God didn\u2019t create me to be all tied up in knots over this situation, whatever that situation might be. So, I think that once you feel like: \u201cI\u2019ve lost my sense of peace. Hey, I\u2019m worrying about this thing.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I worked in sales, I had a company car. It was such a different feeling dealing with a company car versus my own car; because [with] the company car, the company paid for everything. So, if I took it in for an oil change, and they showed me my air filter, and it was a little black, and they said, \u201cShould we replace this?\u201d I\u2019d say, \u201cBy all means. Replace it!\u201d Or if the tires are getting low, \u201cLet\u2019s get new tires.\u201d Whatever needs to be done\u2014because it\u2019s the company\u2019s car\u2014it needs to be top-notch.\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, if it\u2019s my <em>own<\/em> car, we\u2019re not replacing the air filter; because I have to pay for it. The tires: \u201cWell, surely, we can get another few thousand miles out of them.\u201d It\u2019s just <em>so<\/em> totally different. And if the thing\u2014if somebody wrecks it\u2014if it\u2019s sitting in the parking lot; somebody runs into it\u2014it\u2019s the company car\u2014\u201cOkay; just take it to the shop, and let\u2019s get it fixed.\u201d Here\u2019s the thing: I never worried about that car because it wasn\u2019t mine.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, when you understand that everything in your life is a company car\u2014your spouse, your kids, your job, your 401k; everything\u2014it doesn\u2019t belong to you; it\u2019s God\u2019s. He just lets you drive it; He lets you use it. Then, you don\u2019t have to worry. It\u2019s kind of like losing your hair\u2014once it\u2019s all lost\u2014and once you give everything over to the Lord, then, you don\u2019t have to worry about it anymore; that\u2019s His worry, and He\u2019s responsible to take care of His children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> What a great reminder from Jeff Schreve that everything belongs, ultimately, to God; it isn\u2019t ours. And if it belongs to God, that means that it\u2019s <em>His<\/em> responsibility to handle it. Our fear\/our worries are not going to change anything. God is in control. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd you know, God\u2019s still in control, even with things like COVID-19. There is a lot of fear\/a lot of scare going around right now. But we need to pull back and remember, \u201cGod\u2019s still in control.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other day, I talked with pastor and blogger, Tim Challies. He gave some <em>great <\/em>advice on how we should avoid over-reacting during this trying time. Here\u2019s Tim.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Interview]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>I think the church\u2019s role is to express love, primarily to one another. The primary reach of the love of a Christian is to other Christians, so Christians should be prepared to love one another and then to love others. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne easy measure is to say, \u201cIf I am feeling, at all ill, I\u2019m just not going to go to church.\u201d \u201cWhy is that?\u201d \u201cBecause there are elderly people in the church. Whatever we <em>do <\/em>know about the virus, we know <em>they<\/em> of all people are more susceptible to it.\u201d I don\u2019t want to think, \u201cWell, I\u2019m young and healthy, it won\u2019t really bother me,\u201d and then go and spread it to other people. Out of love for them, I may not go out; or out of love for others, I may not go to the store and stockpile\/just cram my basement full of food. I might get enough to love my family\/care for them\u2014but hoarding and stockpiling\u2014maybe, that\u2019s not loving to others. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think one of the ways you can look outward now is, maybe, to get in touch with neighbors\u2014especially perhaps elderly neighbors\u2014and just offer your help. I think if Christians just think, \u201cHow can I love others in my local church and in my community?\u201d\u2014it\u2019s a good place to begin. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>How can we be having conversations with our children during this time about <em>how<\/em> we are to love others?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>I think kids are <em>scared<\/em> of the situation. Children tend not to do very well with uncertainty of the best of times. Then, when mom and dad are a little rattled, they can be a little rattled. I think we can acknowledge <em>their<\/em> fears and then reassure them that God knows all things, that this virus is not a surprise to Him, and that He\u2019s up to something in it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then, I think just modeling God\u2019s love to others. God loved us, at great expense to Himself; so we can be willing to reach out to others, even at the expense of ourselves. Our temptation, as Westernized 21<sup>st<\/sup> century Christians, is to look to government and say: \u201cGovernment, help us,\u201d \u201cGovernment, save us.\u201d God institutes government for His own good purposes, and they will offer help to us; but ultimately, I think it is a call for us to express our lives upon God and to trust in Him as the ultimate One, who is going to bring an end to this eventually.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>True. How do we do that?\u2014how do we rely on God?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Well, we go to God\u2019s Word and we see what is true about God. In times like this, we can focus on what is true about a virus, what is true about the world out there, what is true about the situation out there; but all those things will change. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe one thing we have that is true and fixed, and always unchanging, is God Himself. He is always our starting point. Whatever else is true, let\u2019s focus, at least, the first bit of our attention on what is true of God: God loves us; God cares for us; God will never leave us nor forsake us; we\u2019re secure in Christ; we have comfort in life and death. We can go on and on and list all those great promises of God; so whatever\u2014coronavirus, or earthquakes, or famine\u2014whatever else is true there, we first fix ourselves in what is true about God and then what\u2019s true of us in Christ: \u201cWhat is true of us, who have put our faith in Him and received His forgiveness?\u201d He is the thing that is fixed and unwavering when everything else seems uncertain.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>A <em>great<\/em> biblical response from Tim Challies concerning COVID-19. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, the unknown sometimes just weighs us down, but we don\u2019t need to fear this. You know, our kids are watching our reactions. They are watching, and they are learning; so ask yourself, \u201cWhat are you teaching them?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, when Jesus was talking about worry, He also said, \u201cLook at the birds of the air. They do not sow, nor reap, nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth much more than they? And who of you by being worried can add a single hour to his life?\u201d He finishes this thought by saying: \u201cDo not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will take care of itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.\u201d So give your worries over to Him. Bring your cares and your fears to Him, because Jesus longs for us to fully trust <em>Him<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim Challies has a <em>lot<\/em> of information, pointing us to a biblical response to COVID-19. We have links at our website, FamilyLifeThisWeek.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, one thing I am not going to worry about is next week\u2019s program. Do you remember what Jeff Schreve said a little earlier about \u201ceverything belongs to God\u201d? That includes your children, and it\u2019s His responsibility to take care of them. Next week, we\u2019re going to talk to Jeff and Debbie\u2019s daughter, Sarah, as she went through a potentially life-altering health scare\u2014talk about something to worry about! Oh, wait! We\u2019re not supposed to worry; are we? We\u2019re going to talk about that next week. I hope you can join us for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThanks for listening! I want to thank the president of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, David Robbins, along with our station partners around the country. A big \u201cThank you!\u201d to our engineer today, Keith Lynch, who doesn\u2019t worry at all. Thanks to our producer, Marques Holt, who might worry a little bit, but probably not, and to Justin Adams, who is our mastering engineer. I <em>know<\/em> he doesn\u2019t worry, and to Megan Martin, our production coordinator. Do you worry at all, Megan? \u201cNone; absolutely none.\u201d She has learned from today\u2019s program.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHey! 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And that\u2019s certainly a noble thought, but doesn\u2019t that instill some fear and worry in you moms and dads? Here\u2019s author Wynter Pitts.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Wynter:<\/strong> You know, as parents, we say, \u201cGod, use my kids! Use them to impact Your kingdom.\u201d But when that starts to happen, that can make us a little afraid as parents. It\u2019s easy to say we want our kids to do that, and it\u2019s hard to watch them; but we\u2019re going to prepare them to be the ones that are going to stand out and fight against what\u2019s happening in the world around us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> We\u2019re going to talk about how to survive those worrisome parenting decisions by turning our worry into peace on this edition of <em>FamilyLife This Week. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWelcome to <em>FamilyLife This Week. <\/em>I\u2019m Michelle Hill. Have you ever had an irrational fear?\u2014you know, something that you know is not going to happen; but yet, you\u2019re still afraid that it just might? Like I have this fear of heights. To climb a mountain\u2014well, actually, I was at the top of a mountain a while back; and I had a hard time getting down, because I\u2019m scared. I\u2019m scared of falling! Then, well, you know what would happen if I ended up falling all those feet down, down, down; tumbling down. It\u2019s an irrational fear. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tParents, do you have irrational fears?\u2014you know, afraid that your kid, while being buckled into your car, is going to be stolen when you turn your back? What about them just falling and breaking their neck when they\u2019re playing outside\/climbing a tree? Or what about, you know, the dog that seems to love your child; well, one day, they might just bite them?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know what you\u2019re thinking. Those instances just might have happened. And maybe they happened to you. But still, worry does seem to be a natural part of life; right? I\u2019m told by many moms that, when you have children, well, you\u2019ll understand the depth of their worry. I\u2019m not here to tell you: \u201cYou have to stop,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s the Holy Spirit\u2019s job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, it was in the Sermon on the Mount, that Jesus gave at the beginning of His ministry, He said, \u201cDo not be worried about your life, as to what you will eat or what you will drink, nor for your body, as to what you will put on.\u201d Well, that sounds pretty clear to me; but I\u2019ll admit, it is hard not to fear, and to leave your worries behind.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere are Bob Lepine and Dennis Rainey, talking about worry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em><sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Broadcast]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I have been known to have some anxiety from time to time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> One of my\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let me see if\u2014I\u2019m just going to test your musical knowledge here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Just test your musical knowledge.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Bob! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m just going to see if you can pick out this song; okay? I\u2019m going to sing a little bit of the song; see if you can pick it out. [Humming] You got it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> <em>Be Happy<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What\u2019s the first part? [Singing] \u201cDon\u2019t worry; be happy!\u201d I just thought that would be a good way for us to talk about <em>your<\/em> favorite emotion; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I wouldn\u2019t say it\u2019s my <em>favorite<\/em> emotion! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I guess that\u2019s true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019m all over love! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But you\u2014if you\u2019ve struggled with a negative emotion in your life, this has been the one; hasn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No, no, no; I\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m not picking on you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I don\u2019t feel picked on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You have said this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I would say this is a propensity of mine\u2014to worry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> My mom called me a \u201cworry wart,\u201d because I caused her so [many] problems. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m not doing a good job juggling the things that I\u2019m concerned about that have, ultimately, downgraded into worry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Those three o\u2019clock in the morning mornings, where you just wake up?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes, yes; where you\u2019re just stewing on stuff\/thinking about it. It\u2019s a waste of time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Just like Dennis said, \u201cIt\u2019s a waste of time.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s what I was trying to show you\u2014is that, for some people, worry is a part of life; it\u2019s one of those thorns in your flesh. As you heard Dennis Rainey\u2014who, like I said, is co-founder of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and he is who I would consider a giant in the faith\u2014even <em>he<\/em> struggles with worry, but he knows where to take it!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I know there\u2019s a mom listening\u2014and maybe it\u2019s you\u2014who is saying, \u201cI have every right to worry! It\u2019s a mom\u2019s intuition,\u201d or \u201cIt\u2019s a mom\u2019s prerogative.\u201d And it\u2019s not just moms; sometimes it\u2019s dads. Dennis\u2014he is a dad! You have to make sure that your child lives to ride that bike, to graduate from high school, and to walk down the aisle. Keeping them alive\u2014well, it\u2019s not small feat! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want you to hear the story of a young man, who <em>loved<\/em> to push boundaries. There was one boundary that he pushed too far with his mom. Here\u2019s author and pastor, Winfred Neely, talking with Dennis Rainey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Were you a worry to her?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWinfred:\u00a0Yes! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0Give me a fist bump, because I was the worry wart to my mom. How did you worry her? Did you kind of push the boundaries?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWinfred:\u00a0Push the boundaries is an understatement! I did some crazy\u2014you know, I kind of look back at that person, and I ask myself, \u201cWho was that person?!\u201d That person, of course, was\u00a0me. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0Yes! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWinfred:\u00a0I think about some of the things that I\u00a0did\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Tell them about the go-cart\u2014the night you were entrusted by your mom to go ride some go-carts.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> Yes; well, as graduation from elementary school, this was a big deal!\u2014a big accomplishment!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Celebrate!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> Yes, celebrate. And so my parents, you know, they had kind of a tight hold on us, growing up. So I asked <em>her<\/em> if I could go with some friends of mine on a bus to another part of the city of Chicago. She <em>agreed<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re like 12 years old?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> Well, 13.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you\u2019re going on the bus\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> I\u2019m going on a bus\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014with your friends?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay; alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> \u2014to another part of Chicago, without any adult supervision.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> Some older teenagers were going with us. Now, she gives me some very clear instructions: \u201cOkay, Winfred. You be back home by ten o\u2019clock. Do you understand me?\u201d \u201cYes, Mom.\u201d So I burst out of the house, full of excitement. I get over here to Go-Cart Land; I just decided to ignore Mom\u2019s curfew. I lost\/I deliberately lost track of time. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ve never heard\u2014I\u2019ve never heard that term before. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s put well; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It is! [Laughter] I did that, too, one time!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> I look back on it now. She didn\u2019t know where I was!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There were no cell phones.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> There were no cell phones in 1968.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> We didn\u2019t have iPhones. Now, we had phone booths! You remember Superman films? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> How Superman used to get into the phone booth and go\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> So we had a lot of phone booths around the city of Chicago! All I had to do was go into a phone booth, put a quarter in there, call Mom, and say: \u201cMother, I\u2019m running late. I\u2019m okay. I\u2019m on my way.\u201d That would have <em>eased<\/em> her anxiety. It never even <em>occurred<\/em> to me to do that!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So how late were you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> Well, I think I got back\u2014it was <em>way<\/em> after ten. It was probably around \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t11 o\u2019clock\/11:15 at night in Chicago.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201413-year-old.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> \u201413-year-old. So I thought I would try the tippy-toe routine. [Whispering] \u201cI\u2019m just going to tippy-toe into the house\u201d; you know? [Laughter] And my <em>father<\/em> was asleep; that\u2019s interesting. That\u2019s interesting; Daddy just decided, \u201cI\u2019m not gonna\u2014okay, Lou\u201d\u2014that was my mother, Annie Lou\u2014\u2018Ill let you deal with this.\u201d [Laughter] Daddy went to <em>bed<\/em>; Daddy was asleep.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI opened the back door, and my mother came around the corner like Wonder Woman. [Laughter] I mean, I can still see it! I can still see the strange mingling of love and fury, at once, in her eyes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s a good description; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> \u201cBoy! Why are you so late?!\u201d She gave me a piece of her mind; she was very disappointed that I did not respect the curfew.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Ohhh, I have a similar story. I\u2019m sure we <em>all<\/em> do\u2014similar to Winfred\u2019s. You know, I was old enough to drive\u2014so, probably, about 16\u2014I went out with some friends. My curfew was 10:30; and at 10:30, well\u2014I made sure I was safely at my best friend\u2019s house, just a mile down the road. You know, all good; right? I mean, in my teenaged mind, \u201cSure!\u201d No; when I arrived home at midnight, my mom was sitting by the front door! Yes, I can understand what Winfred was talking about with the love and the fury! [Laughter] Which one won out that night?\u2014I\u2019m not exactly sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you know, it\u2019s one thing to be the child and have your parents worry about you, but it\u2019s another thing to be the parent and worry about your children. Winfred Neely has been on both sides of that equation. He\u2019s grown now; he\u2019s married to Stephanie; has a family of his own. He remembers when they were young missionaries in Africa, and his son, Sterling, got very, very sick. Of course, he began to worry. Here\u2019s Winfred.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> You know, malaria was common; so it was not an uncommon for missionaries in that part of the world to, you know, get malaria. I mean, it\u2019s almost like the common cold. So they have medicines you take and things like that, and you\u2019ll be okay in a few days. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe thought Sterling had malaria, but there was something else. Stephanie noticed it first,\u00a0 that there was something going on with him. We were giving him the malaria meds, and he was not getting better. He was becoming lethargic, breathing was labored. We took him to a pediatrician in Dakar, and he started treating Sterling for typhoid.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, that really got to us, because we had seen a number of things happen during this season in our lives. You know, just, \u201cWhat is God doing? Why is He allowing this to happen?\u201d We know that God is good; but when you are in a situation, where you cannot\u2014as one preacher says\u2014\u201cYou cannot trace God\u2019s providential hand, you\u2019ve got to learn to trust His heart in situations like that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe fact that Sterling was sick, in combination with these big theological questions that we were raising, deepened our anxiety. Again, we had to release Sterling to the Lord. Now, we did what we were supposed to do. We gave him the appropriate meds; we made sure that we kept him hydrated; we carried out our responsibility, understanding, ultimately, only God can restore him. That\u2019s what we did: we prayed, and we experienced the peace of God in the midst of this situation. And the Lord restored our little boy to health.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis:\u00a0So what\u2019s been the biggest faith challenge to that spiritual muscle that you\u2019re talking about? What\u2019s been the number one issue that you had to take before God and say, \u201cGod, I don\u2019t know what You\u2019re up to, but I want to trust You with it\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWinfred:\u00a0This is going to seem strange. It\u2019s my own feelings; it\u2019s my own feelings.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn other words, because of the way that I\u2019m wired, I have a tendency to go with my feelings. My feelings are telling me one thing\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> \u2014God\u2019s Word is telling me something else. So now, I have a decision to make: whether I\u2019m going to go with my feelings or whether I\u2019m going to go with Scripture. When I have gone with Scripture, Dennis, I have found\u2014whenever I trust God and take God at His Word, based on Scripture\u2014I have found the peace of God is released in my heart and mind through the ministry of the Spirit of God. That\u2019s been my biggest challenge.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tInterestingly enough, I\u2019m 63 years old now, and I think it was when I was in my 50s when God starts to wean me off of my feelings so that I learned to take Him at His Word. I want to suggest that that\u2019s one of the big problems in post-Modern\/post-Christian culture. It\u2019s this feeling-driven\u2014we are too driven by feelings. We have to stop making these decisions, based on how we feel; find out what God\u2019s Word says about any particular issue, and take God at His Word. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Winfred:<\/strong> Then, when we do that, we will experience peace; and that\u2019s a big challenge. That sounds easy, but it is a major spiritual breakthrough in one\u2019s life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Wow! Just what Winfred Neely is talking about\u2014it does sound easy: \u201cStop worrying! Stop worrying!\u201d It sounds <em>so simple<\/em>, but it also is very, very hard. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHey! We need to take a break, but when we come back, we\u2019re going to take a look at what the definition of worry really is and \u201cHow do we just lay those burdens and those fears at the foot of the cross?\u201d We\u2019ll take a look at that when we come back. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Radio Station Spot Break]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Welcome back to <em>FamilyLife This Week<\/em>. I'm Michelle Hill. Today, we are talking about fear and worry and just \u201cWhat do we do with those runaway emotions?\u2014how do we reel them back in?\u201d You know, when I\u2019m on top of that mountain, and I\u2019m scared to get down, what helps me is when I really step back from the situation and specifically define what I am scared of: the outcome. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we\u2019re talking about that, we really need to know, \u201cWhat\u2019s the true definition of worry?\u201d For that, we turn to pastor and author, Jeff Schreve. He is joined by his wife, Debbie. They\u2019re talking with Dennis Rainey and Bob Lepine, just all about worry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Broadcast]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeff:<\/strong> Worry is the uneasiness that we feel in view of an anticipated loss, whether real or imagined, of something or someone we value. For instance, if my daughter is driving from Texarkana to Houston, I may worry about her safety; because\u2014especially when she was really a novice\/rookie driver\u2014we would worry, \u201cOh, is she going to make it?\u201d \u201cCall us; let us know\u2026\u201d We were probably increasing her opportunity to get in a wreck as we were texting her all the way; you know? [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNothing happened on any of those occasions, but we would be anxious about it because we anticipated, \u201cHey, this\u00a0could\u00a0happen.\u201d So, you know, most of the things we worry about, as individuals, never happen. There was a statistic done\u2014I can\u2019t remember the exact number\u2014but it was\u00a0so high of the things we worry about\u2014you know, 50 or \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t60 percent of those things will <em>never<\/em> happen\u2014but we still worry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Bob:\u00a0And let me\u2014because I\u2019ve been picking on Dennis here about the fact that worry is an issue for him\u2014let\u2019s be honest, that a person who never worries about anything, is irresponsible\/is, maybe, in denial. The person who goes, \u201cI\u2019m not worried about anything!\u201d We\u2019re supposed to be alert to our surroundings; we\u2019re supposed to be cautious and on guard. When does worry become sinful?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJeff:\u00a0Well, I think that, you know, Jesus told us, \u201cDon\u2019t worry.\u201d In Matthew, Chapter 6, which I talk about in the chapter on worry, three times in ten verses: \u201cDo not be worried,\u201d \u201cDo not be worried,\u201d \u201cDo not worry. Don\u2019t be anxious about tomorrow for tomorrow will take care of itself.\u201d I think anytime that concern moves into worry and \u201cI\u2019m fretting about this,\u201d and \u201cI\u2019m wringing my hands about this,\u201d we have crossed the line. Now we\u2019ve gone into where it\u2019s not just, \u201cI\u2019m responsible\u201d; but now, I\u2019ve crossed over.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob:\u00a0So, can I tell when my concern becomes sinful worry? Is there a line I can cross?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJeff:\u00a0Well, I think when you lose your sense of peace. You can\u2019t sleep at night; that thing is going through your mind. You know, what it boils down to is: \u201cWait a minute! I\u2019m not trusting God here,\u201d because God didn\u2019t create me to be all tied up in knots over this situation, whatever that situation might be. So, I think that once you feel like: \u201cI\u2019ve lost my sense of peace. Hey, I\u2019m worrying about this thing.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I worked in sales, I had a company car. It was such a different feeling dealing with a company car versus my own car; because [with] the company car, the company paid for everything. So, if I took it in for an oil change, and they showed me my air filter, and it was a little black, and they said, \u201cShould we replace this?\u201d I\u2019d say, \u201cBy all means. Replace it!\u201d Or if the tires are getting low, \u201cLet\u2019s get new tires.\u201d Whatever needs to be done\u2014because it\u2019s the company\u2019s car\u2014it needs to be top-notch.\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, if it\u2019s my <em>own<\/em> car, we\u2019re not replacing the air filter; because I have to pay for it. The tires: \u201cWell, surely, we can get another few thousand miles out of them.\u201d It\u2019s just <em>so<\/em> totally different. And if the thing\u2014if somebody wrecks it\u2014if it\u2019s sitting in the parking lot; somebody runs into it\u2014it\u2019s the company car\u2014\u201cOkay; just take it to the shop, and let\u2019s get it fixed.\u201d Here\u2019s the thing: I never worried about that car because it wasn\u2019t mine.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, when you understand that everything in your life is a company car\u2014your spouse, your kids, your job, your 401k; everything\u2014it doesn\u2019t belong to you; it\u2019s God\u2019s. He just lets you drive it; He lets you use it. Then, you don\u2019t have to worry. It\u2019s kind of like losing your hair\u2014once it\u2019s all lost\u2014and once you give everything over to the Lord, then, you don\u2019t have to worry about it anymore; that\u2019s His worry, and He\u2019s responsible to take care of His children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle:<\/strong> What a great reminder from Jeff Schreve that everything belongs, ultimately, to God; it isn\u2019t ours. And if it belongs to God, that means that it\u2019s <em>His<\/em> responsibility to handle it. Our fear\/our worries are not going to change anything. God is in control. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd you know, God\u2019s still in control, even with things like COVID-19. There is a lot of fear\/a lot of scare going around right now. But we need to pull back and remember, \u201cGod\u2019s still in control.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other day, I talked with pastor and blogger, Tim Challies. He gave some <em>great <\/em>advice on how we should avoid over-reacting during this trying time. Here\u2019s Tim.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Interview]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>I think the church\u2019s role is to express love, primarily to one another. The primary reach of the love of a Christian is to other Christians, so Christians should be prepared to love one another and then to love others. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne easy measure is to say, \u201cIf I am feeling, at all ill, I\u2019m just not going to go to church.\u201d \u201cWhy is that?\u201d \u201cBecause there are elderly people in the church. Whatever we <em>do <\/em>know about the virus, we know <em>they<\/em> of all people are more susceptible to it.\u201d I don\u2019t want to think, \u201cWell, I\u2019m young and healthy, it won\u2019t really bother me,\u201d and then go and spread it to other people. Out of love for them, I may not go out; or out of love for others, I may not go to the store and stockpile\/just cram my basement full of food. I might get enough to love my family\/care for them\u2014but hoarding and stockpiling\u2014maybe, that\u2019s not loving to others. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think one of the ways you can look outward now is, maybe, to get in touch with neighbors\u2014especially perhaps elderly neighbors\u2014and just offer your help. I think if Christians just think, \u201cHow can I love others in my local church and in my community?\u201d\u2014it\u2019s a good place to begin. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>How can we be having conversations with our children during this time about <em>how<\/em> we are to love others?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>I think kids are <em>scared<\/em> of the situation. Children tend not to do very well with uncertainty of the best of times. Then, when mom and dad are a little rattled, they can be a little rattled. I think we can acknowledge <em>their<\/em> fears and then reassure them that God knows all things, that this virus is not a surprise to Him, and that He\u2019s up to something in it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then, I think just modeling God\u2019s love to others. God loved us, at great expense to Himself; so we can be willing to reach out to others, even at the expense of ourselves. Our temptation, as Westernized 21<sup>st<\/sup> century Christians, is to look to government and say: \u201cGovernment, help us,\u201d \u201cGovernment, save us.\u201d God institutes government for His own good purposes, and they will offer help to us; but ultimately, I think it is a call for us to express our lives upon God and to trust in Him as the ultimate One, who is going to bring an end to this eventually.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>True. How do we do that?\u2014how do we rely on God?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Well, we go to God\u2019s Word and we see what is true about God. In times like this, we can focus on what is true about a virus, what is true about the world out there, what is true about the situation out there; but all those things will change. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe one thing we have that is true and fixed, and always unchanging, is God Himself. He is always our starting point. Whatever else is true, let\u2019s focus, at least, the first bit of our attention on what is true of God: God loves us; God cares for us; God will never leave us nor forsake us; we\u2019re secure in Christ; we have comfort in life and death. We can go on and on and list all those great promises of God; so whatever\u2014coronavirus, or earthquakes, or famine\u2014whatever else is true there, we first fix ourselves in what is true about God and then what\u2019s true of us in Christ: \u201cWhat is true of us, who have put our faith in Him and received His forgiveness?\u201d He is the thing that is fixed and unwavering when everything else seems uncertain.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>A <em>great<\/em> biblical response from Tim Challies concerning COVID-19. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, the unknown sometimes just weighs us down, but we don\u2019t need to fear this. You know, our kids are watching our reactions. They are watching, and they are learning; so ask yourself, \u201cWhat are you teaching them?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, when Jesus was talking about worry, He also said, \u201cLook at the birds of the air. They do not sow, nor reap, nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not worth much more than they? And who of you by being worried can add a single hour to his life?\u201d He finishes this thought by saying: \u201cDo not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will take care of itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.\u201d So give your worries over to Him. Bring your cares and your fears to Him, because Jesus longs for us to fully trust <em>Him<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTim Challies has a <em>lot<\/em> of information, pointing us to a biblical response to COVID-19. We have links at our website, FamilyLifeThisWeek.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, one thing I am not going to worry about is next week\u2019s program. Do you remember what Jeff Schreve said a little earlier about \u201ceverything belongs to God\u201d? That includes your children, and it\u2019s His responsibility to take care of them. Next week, we\u2019re going to talk to Jeff and Debbie\u2019s daughter, Sarah, as she went through a potentially life-altering health scare\u2014talk about something to worry about! Oh, wait! We\u2019re not supposed to worry; are we? We\u2019re going to talk about that next week. I hope you can join us for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThanks for listening! I want to thank the president of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, David Robbins, along with our station partners around the country. A big \u201cThank you!\u201d to our engineer today, Keith Lynch, who doesn\u2019t worry at all. Thanks to our producer, Marques Holt, who might worry a little bit, but probably not, and to Justin Adams, who is our mastering engineer. I <em>know<\/em> he doesn\u2019t worry, and to Megan Martin, our production coordinator. Do you worry at all, Megan? \u201cNone; absolutely none.\u201d She has learned from today\u2019s program.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHey! 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