{"id":305690,"date":"2020-01-17T06:00:04","date_gmt":"2020-01-17T11:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/catch-the-little-foxes\/"},"modified":"2020-01-17T06:00:04","modified_gmt":"2020-01-17T11:00:04","slug":"catch-the-little-foxes","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/catch-the-little-foxes\/","title":{"rendered":"Catch the Little Foxes"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sharon Jaynes believes the Song of Solomon still has practical applications for us today. 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For instance, she talks about the \"little foxes\" that can ruin a marriage if a couple isn't careful.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2020-01-17.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We have said, often, on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> that all marriages naturally drift toward isolation. Sharon Jaynes remembers seeing evidence of that drift in her parents\u2019 marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> My dad was in the Korean War. He made a little vinyl record\u2014sent it home to my mom. They had been married a year; and on that record, he talked about how much he <em>loved<\/em> her, how much he cherished her, and he <em>missed<\/em> her. I listened to that record, and I held it in my hand; and I thought: \u201cHow in the world did this happen? How in the world did this man\u2014who is talking about how much he loves this woman\u2014how did they end up having such a <em>horrible<\/em> marriage?\u201d Because <em>my<\/em> remembrance of my parents\u2014I very rarely remember any kind words. There was a lot of violence in my home. As far as I knew, my parents didn\u2019t even <em>like<\/em> each other much less <em>love<\/em> each other. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow did that happen? Well, it starts out with little foxes. If you don\u2019t take care of the little problems, they will become <em>big<\/em> problems. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, January 17<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Are there little foxes running around in your marriage that need to be caught\/captured and run out of the house? We\u2019re going to talk today about dealing with those little foxes, so your marriage doesn\u2019t drift toward isolation or worse. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I\u2019ve got to tell you\u2014the conversation we\u2019re having this week, where we\u2019re talking about romance, and joy, and passion in a marriage relationship\u2014we ought to talk about this more; you know? [Laughter] I mean, just\u2014there is something about celebrating this part of marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe said earlier, \u201cThis is not the <em>foundation<\/em> of a marriage\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cbut it\u2019s important.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It is. When this is absent from a marriage, the marriage suffers. When this is <em>present<\/em> in a marriage\/when it\u2019s healthy in a marriage, that\u2019s going to help your marriage <em>be<\/em> what God designed it to be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m guessing that Mary Ann is going to give us a call tonight and say: \u201cWow! What did you guys talk about today? Bob is so romantic!\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, the reason is because we are talking about what the Bible says in Song of Solomon. We\u2019re doing that because Sharon Jaynes is joining us again. Welcome back, Sharon. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Thank you for having me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Sharon is an author and a speaker, a mom and a wife; and she has written a book called <em>Lovestruck: Discovering God\u2019s Design for Romance, Marriage, and Sexual Intimacy from the Song of Solomon<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just need to point out that, on the cover of this book\u2014first of all, the title looks like one of those \u201cDo Not Disturb\u201d signs; right? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> That\u2019s on purpose. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I like that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Then it talks about <em>Romance<\/em>, <em>Marriage<\/em>, and then it highlights <em>Sexual Intimacy<\/em>\u2014those are in bigger, bolder; that\u2019s in a different typeface than the rest. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; what\u2019s that all about? [Laughter] We\u2019re going to find out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon: <\/strong>Yes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It is central to what is in the Song of Solomon. This is a part of what God is giving us an invitation to, at this point in His Word\u2014He is saying, \u201cI <em>delight<\/em> in husbands and wives experiencing what I designed.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve said this for years: Howard Hendricks used to say, \u201cWe should not be ashamed to discuss what God was not ashamed to create.\u201d It\u2019s one of the things at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> that we talk about openly, appropriately. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But <em>so many<\/em> couples come up and say: \u201cThank you, because we didn\u2019t know where we could go. We didn\u2019t know who we could talk to about the issues and the challenges we are facing in our marriage.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think so many people live in silence and shame about this area; and so, when we can talk about it honestly and biblically, it can really transform people\u2019s lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I mentioned the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> because this week we\u2019re making a special offer to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners. You can sign up for an upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>\u2014you and your spouse can attend, and we\u2019ll cover half the cost for you; so it\u2019s 50 percent off the regular registration fee if you sign up this week. You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com for the information, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Look for dates and locations that are going to work for you this spring. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>But I\u2019ve got to tell you: \u201cA weekend together this spring will be the best investment you will make in your marriage all year, and it will pay <em>dividends<\/em> for months to come.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cfor your legacy!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m always somewhat shocked, when we speak at a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>; and the couples that come up and say, \u201cThis is the first time we\u2019ve <em>ever<\/em>\u201d\u201425 years married\u2014\u201cever gone away to work on our marriage,\u201d\u2014[I\u2019m] like: \u201cOh my goodness! You need to do this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And I\u2019m not\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u201cYou need to do it now.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And I\u2019m not sure we would still be married had we not gone to one of these. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve got to go that far! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s a pretty bold statement. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Really\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re saying\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014it is true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014there were foundational principles that you learned, as an engaged couple, that when you hit some road blocks,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014you could pull back and say, \u201cThey told us this was coming, and they gave us tools to know how to deal with it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com for information about the getaway. Sign up this week\u2014save 50 percent off the regular registration fee\u2014or call if you have any questions or if you\u2019d like to sign up by phone: 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So, Bob, let\u2019s get into this topic of the Song of Solomon and how it relates to our lives. One of the interesting things about Song of Solomon\u2014it isn\u2019t just about sexual intimacy\u2014it\u2019s all the things highlighted in your book: it\u2019s romance; it\u2019s passion. Let\u2019s talk about that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> It\u2019s about covenant; it\u2019s about the words that we speak; about how to leave and cleave; so there\u2019s a lot in there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014even about conflict, there\u2019s\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> There is 20 percent on conflict and how to forgive each other, so there is a <em>lot<\/em> in these 8 little chapters. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So, one of the things you talk about in there\u2014that Solomon brings up\u2014is little foxes; and it destroys romance\/destroys passion in a marriage. What do we do with the little <em>foxes<\/em> in our homes? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> It\u2019s interesting when he says, \u201cCatch for us the little foxes.\u201d Now, who was the us? Who do you think he is talking to? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I would assume it is the two of them\u2014husband and wife? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> \u201cCatch for us the little foxes.\u201d At least, to me, it\u2019s like he is talking to God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Huh?! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> So, there is a God element in there: \u201cCatch for us\u2026.\u201d\u2014he is talking to someone <em>else<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; good point. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> But what are foxes? There are four of us here. I bet we could come up with a hundred little foxes really quickly, but let\u2019s just name a few. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Kids can be foxes; they can rob a relationship of romance. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> They do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Disrespect. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, I\u2019ve heard from my wife <em>harsh<\/em> words. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Harsh words; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> She\u2019s spoken those to you, or she\u2019s told <em>you<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> She\u2019s told me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014that \u201cThat\u2019s a fox.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, I can see her countenance drop; and I can be so clueless to think, \u201cI can say harsh words and then want to be romantic\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cyou know?\u2014in the same hour.\u201d It\u2019s like, \u201cIt doesn\u2019t work that way.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Unresolved conflict\/unforgiveness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Anger. You know, there are not many spouses, who say, \u201cYou remember when you were just angry with me? That just made me want to be with you\u201d; right? [Laughter] No; that\u2019s when we want to separate from one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> But there are so many little foxes. We could just go on and on for the next several hours. It\u2019s going to look different for everyone. We have to look out for the little foxes that will come in and steal the fruit of our marriage\u2014is what the analogy actually was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut little foxes can also be people; you know, it could be relatives. It can be work; it can be too much church work\u2014focusing on <em>that<\/em> rather than your marriage. It could be too much time at work. It can be cuddling up with a good book at night. It could be spending too much time with the remote. There are lots of different little foxes that can creep in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think one of the big foxes\u2014not a little fox\u2014that we\u2019ve looked at already is apathy in marriage. That is <em>huge<\/em>, and that is one that we see that can destroy a marriage very quickly, especially in the later years\u2014after the children are gone\u2014and then they look at each other and say, \u201cWell, now, who are you?\u201d Well, what\u2019s happened? They haven\u2019t been very intentional about their marriage, so that little fox of apathy and indifference has crept in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>I mentioned earlier about the letters that I found in my attic that were written by my father-in-law to my mother-in-law; but interestingly enough, I was going through some of <em>my<\/em> parents\u2019 things, and I found a little record. Remember\u2014in the Army, where you used to could make a little vinyl record to send home? Well, my dad was in the Korean War. He made a little, vinyl record\u2014sent it home to my mom. They had been married a year; on that record, he talked about how much he <em>loved<\/em> her, how much he cherished her, and he <em>missed<\/em> her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI listened to that record, and I held it in my hand, and I thought: \u201cHow in the world did this happen? How in the world did this man, who is talking about how much he loves this woman\u2014how did they end up having such a <em>horrible<\/em> marriage?\u201d Because, in <em>my<\/em> remembrance of my parents, I very rarely remember any kind words. There was a lot of violence in my home; and as far as I knew, my parents didn\u2019t even <em>like<\/em> each other, much less, <em>love<\/em> each other. How did that happen? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, it starts out with little foxes. If you don\u2019t take care of the little problems, they will become <em>big<\/em> problems. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We say, all the time, at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> getaway, that the natural drift in every relationship is toward isolation. We don\u2019t naturally drift together; we naturally drift apart. If you are not purposeful in your marriage to build intimacy, what will happen is\u2014you\u2019ll wake up, six months\/a year from now, and go: \u201cWho are you?\u201d and \u201cHow did we get so far apart?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is where I think couples\u2014because when we are dating, it seems like we just keep getting closer and closer\u2014there is something that propels us together; but after we\u2019re married, it\u2019s\u2014just the opposite happens. We start to just drift apart. I think this is where couples\u2014nobody prepares them for the fact that marriage is going to be grand and glorious, but you\u2019re going to have to work at it to make it that way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And you\u2019re going to have to go <em>against<\/em> the drift\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014because it is natural. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And the pull of the culture\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014pulls us apart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I want to ask you, Sharon: \u201cWhat did you feel?\u201d I can\u2019t imagine, if I found a vinyl of my dad saying those kinds of things to my mom\u2014and I had a similar experience; I <em>never<\/em> saw that\u2014man, that would have hit me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> It did hit me hard. I think about, even on my wedding day, I was sitting there, dressed in the wedding gown and thinking how much I love Steve\u2014all the people I love being there\u2014and we were going to be <em>different<\/em>. We were going to have that strong marriage\u2014not like the kind of marriage that my parents had. But then I thought: \u201cNow, wait a minute! Didn\u2019t they feel that way before they got married? What could go so wrong, in so many marriages, that you start out feeling the way I feel <em>today<\/em>; and then you drift apart?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI made a decision that I was <em>not<\/em> going to let that happen in my marriage. I was going to do everything within my power to make our marriage great; but I found out very quickly that the problem with that was the \u201cin my power\u201d part, because I didn\u2019t have it in my power to have a great marriage. I could try mighty hard; I could be intentional; but I really needed God to be the center of our marriage, and become a woman of prayer, and praying for my husband\u2014I call it, \u201cPraying from Head to Toe\u201d\u2014that\u2019s [the topic of] another book I wrote a while back; and I have a Praying Wives Club now that\u2014just covering our marriage in prayer. I cannot do it on my own, but being aware that that can happen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we see that in the Song of Solomon, talking about the foxes. He shows us that it <em>can<\/em> happen, and then he shows us it <em>did<\/em> happen\u2014because he came knocking, and she said, \u201cNo thanks,\u201d\u2014and then you get to the very end of the book, and it shows us how to <em>prevent<\/em> it from happening. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to read one little cute, cute verse here. She\u2019s coming up to him, and I envision him\u2014maybe, Solomon\u2019s out, taking care of the fields; and she comes up. She says: \u201cCome, my beloved. Let us go to the countryside. Let us spend the night in the villages. Let us go early to the vineyards.\u201d Then she says this one little verse at the end\u2014and think about this\u2014this is a woman who has been married for a while. She encourages him to come off to the countryside and spend the night in the villages, like they used to. I bet they were going to a FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> conference. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014<em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Yes; <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>\u2014that\u2019s it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe says: \u201cThere I will give you my love. The mandrakes send out their fragrance. At the door is every delicacy, both new and old that I have stored up for you, my Beloved.\u201d Can\u2019t you see her kind of teasing him with that? You know, \u201cYou\u2019re going to have the garden that you\u2019ve enjoyed, <em>and<\/em> you\u2019re going to have some new things.\u201d She was <em>very<\/em> intentional about calling her husband away\/going away and spending some romantic time together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll through the book of Song of Solomon, there is no mention of children, so it\u2019s very much centered on the romantic relationship between a husband and wife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Why do you point that out? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> One reason I point it out is\u2014people think that God created that part of us for procreation; but there\u2019s a <em>lot<\/em> that He put in us that that has <em>nothing<\/em> to do with procreation; it\u2019s simply for pleasure between a husband and wife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> If God created us that way, then He is <em>glorified<\/em> when we enjoy what He\u2019s created. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; you said in your book\u2014and I\u2019ve never read this by any other author\u2014I\u2019ve actually said something like it at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> when we talk about this part of a marriage. You said this\u2014when I say this publically, and I\u2019ve said it at church\u2014people almost sort of go, \u201cReally?\u201d Here is what I remember you writing: \u201cWhen a married couple makes love, God, like, cheers. God is celebrating that.\u201d Talk about that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Well, you just kind of said it in a nutshell. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dave:<\/strong> I mean, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> But He <em>does<\/em> because, you know, what is the definition of glorifying God? Well, to glorify God is make Him easy to see; but something glorifies God when it\u2019s doing what He\u2019s created it to do and being what He has created it to be. He has put all this to fashion into a husband and a wife for that very purpose; so when you are enjoying that, He\u2019s <em>excited<\/em>. I mean, that\u2019s what He made you for. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> In a way, you are <em>glorifying<\/em> God with your spouse. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. The thing I\u2019ve tried to help people understand is\u2014I had a wrong view of the character of God to think that all God thought about a married couple making love\/sexual intimacy is that it was wrong and dirty. That\u2019s sort of what I had heard. Yet, when you understand, \u201cHe actually celebrates that,\u201d it\u2019s like: \u201cWait, wait, wait. Maybe, I\u2019ve misunderstood the character of who God is. He\u2019s actually a wonderful Father, who gave us a beautiful, intimate gift and said, \u2018Enjoy it.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> That is how many people were taught\u2014that it was evil, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> \u2014that marriage permitted it. But it is not an evil that marriage permits; it\u2019s a <em>wonderful<\/em> thing that marriage <em>protects<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I love the verse in Song of Solomon 5; and I believe this is God speaking when He says, \u201cEat, friends, drink, and be drunk with love.\u201d I just think: \u201cHere is God, looking at the man and the woman, in this glorious, romantic relationship, where they are with one another; and He says: \u2018I delight in this. This brings joy to Me. This is glorifying to Me, and I am smiling at my children enjoying what I created for them to enjoy.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> And that was on their honeymoon night\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> \u2014when He said that to them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Alright; this is all <em>beautiful<\/em>; it\u2019s good. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Uh-oh! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Let\u2019s talk to the woman that\u2019s married to a husband that is totally disengaged: he\u2019s not seeing her; he\u2019s not involved with the children; he\u2019s working all the time; he\u2019s not pursuing her or affectionate in anyway. What should <em>she<\/em> do? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> That is a <em>really<\/em> hard one because we tend to think that it is usually the man, who is always the one who is interested; it\u2019s the woman who is really <em>not<\/em> that interested; but in 20 percent [of marriages], it\u2019s the other way around, where the <em>man<\/em> is not interested, and the woman is; and she feels very hurt. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And we\u2019re seeing that number increase\u2014more and more wives, who would say, \u201cMy husband is disengaged in the area of romance, and intimacy, and passion.\u201d I have to think pornography is a part of that; but yes; it\u2019s leaving a lot of wives feeling, \u201cThere must be something really wrong with me because it\u2019s supposed to be where my husband is pursuing me, and he never does.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Right. Sometimes, it can be something simple as low testosterone, and the just need to go to the doctor and be checked. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> But then that\u2019s even a problem, because I don\u2019t want to admit that there is a problem; but that is such an easy fix. There are a lot of things in the culture, right now, that are causing men to not be interested with their own wives. Pornography is <em>huge<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> It is a huge problem. Bob, I read a statistic that the porn industry brings in more revenue than the NBA, the NFL, and Major League Baseball <em>combined<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> So, that is a <em>huge<\/em> problem. It\u2019s so accessible\u2014yes; it\u2019s always been around, but it\u2019s never been more accessible than it is today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGoing back\u2014and \u201cWhat does a woman do with that?\u201d\u2014they really need to go to some counseling; because the devil gets just as excited about sex outside of marriage as he does with the marriage without sex, because both are outside of the will of God. The husband needs to realize that they are living outside of the will of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn 1 Corinthians 7:1-5, Paul talks to the couple about not withholding sexual intimacy from each other. It says only for a time of prayer and fasting that you both agree on. If you talk to a couple that\u2019s not engaging anymore, I can guarantee you it\u2019s not because of their prayer and fasting; there is some other reason. Paul is <em>assuming<\/em> that they are having relations; and he saying, \u201cIt\u2019s a problem if you\u2019re <em>not<\/em>.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, you\u2019re right. It\u2019s not just the couples have called the time out for prayer and fasting, but that passage also says it\u2019s by mutual agreement. I\u2019ve rarely met a couple, where both husband and wife are saying: \u201cYou know what? We\u2019ve set aside a season of time for prayer and for fasting, and we both agree.\u201d It\u2019s usually somebody, who is saying, \u201cI\u2019m frustrated\u201d; and the other one, who is saying, \u2018I\u2019m not interested.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Then what does it say about the reason to come back together? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So that you are not tempted; so that you are not drawn outside of the marriage for fulfillment in this aspect of life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Whoever is withholding that physical intimacy is painting a target on the spouse\u2019s back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. Now, let\u2019s be clear there; because if somebody steps outside of the marriage, it\u2019s not the other person\u2019s fault. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> No; it\u2019s not. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right; right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s always on the person who makes the choice to be unfaithful. All we\u2019re saying is\u2014we can make it easier or harder for a spouse to be unfaithful by how we choose to respond to them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I was at a conference, not too long ago, when a woman came up to me. They\u2019d been married 40 years, and she said her husband is no longer interested in this area. She was so disappointed. She said, \u201cI told him that I\u2019m going to go outside of our marriage.\u201d He said, \u201cFine\u201d; so she went on to a dating site. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Oh, wow! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m glad that you said that, because there\u2019s <em>no reason<\/em> <em>ever<\/em> that we should go <em>outside<\/em> of our marriage. God\u2019s not calling us to do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He is calling us to fast and to pray\u2014to get counsel. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The reason is because we can\u2019t separate physical intimacy from our love for one another; there is a connection between body and soul. There is a connection between two people that is a mysterious\u2014by God\u2019s design\u2014a mysterious connection. You step outside the marriage and just say, \u201cWell, I\u2019m just doing this so that I can be physically satisfied here,\u201d\u2014you don\u2019t have any idea what you\u2019re tampering with here in terms of the relationship. It\u2019s <em>not<\/em> simply a biological act; it\u2019s a relational act. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> And there will <em>always<\/em> be consequences. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I\u2019m sitting here, thinking, \u201cI\u2019m one of the consequences for my dad stepping outside of the marriage.\u201d I remember asking him\u2014boy, <em>years<\/em> after the divorce; I\u2019m 35\/37 years old; I\u2019ve got young children at home\u2014and I picked him up at the airport to come visit me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cDad, did you ever regret the divorce?\u201d Before I finished the line, he said, \u201c[Blank] yes!\u201d It was so visceral. He said, \u201cReally, it was the biggest mistake of my life.\u201d I knew what he was thinking: \u201cI chased after women. I chased after pleasure. I lost you, and I lost a legacy.\u201d I could <em>feel<\/em> it\u2014like if he could do it all over again, he would have done it right\u2014because he didn\u2019t think the stakes were that high, but that\u2019s how high the stakes are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis topic we\u2019re talking about is <em>so important<\/em>. If you want to keep the fire going, you\u2019ve got to do the same thing you do with a real fire. You\u2019ve got to <em>continually<\/em> stoke it\/work on it. You <em>can\u2019t<\/em> let little foxes\u2014you <em>can\u2019t<\/em> let it dissipate. You\u2019ve got to, daily\u2014right?\u2014every single day: \u201cI\u2019m going to bring energy to all aspects of my marriage, including this. I\u2019m going to do it God\u2019s way.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Sharon, you have given us a look into how God unpacks this for us in His Word. Thank you for the book. Thank you for the time with us. Thanks for being bold enough to be a woman writing on Song of Solomon. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Sharon:<\/strong> You\u2019re welcome. It was a big step. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019ve got copies of Sharon\u2019s book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order the book, <em>Lovestruck<\/em>, when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to get a copy. Again, the book is called <em>Lovestruck: Discovering God\u2019s Design for Romance, Marriage, and Sexual Intimacy from the Song of Solomon<\/em>. Order online at FamilyLifeToday.com or call to order at 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd let me just say, \u201cIf you want to stir a little romance and passion in your marriage, get away at one of our <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaways this spring.\u201d I\u2019m <em>always<\/em> amazed\u2014the president of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, David Robbins, is here with us. David, I\u2019m always amazed when I run into listeners, who say, \u201cOh, yes; we\u2019ve talked about doing that, and we\u2019ve just never gotten around to it.\u201d I go, \u201cWell, what are you waiting for?!\u201d\u2014you know? [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> Yes; I mean, it can be challenging to get time away. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> If you\u2019ve got babysitting, I get it\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014I understand. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> It is <em>always<\/em> worth it\u2014every time\u2014to invest that into your marriage\/to invest a weekend. It\u2019s one weekend. One of the things that I\u2019m so grateful for is how <em>deep<\/em> of a foundation these <em>Weekends to Remember<\/em> are. This is a getaway that has been happening for over four decades. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> They are just time-tested and trusted. You can trust that this weekend bears fruit and transformation in your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019ve talked to so many couples, who say, \u201cI wish we\u2019d done this when we first got married.\u201d So, rather than putting it off and waiting until you\u2019ve been married [longer], why not do it today? Go to FamilyLifeToday.com and sign up for an upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaway. Again, if you sign up today, you\u2019ll save 50 percent off the regular registration fee. That\u2019s the best offer we make all year long, so sign up to attend a getaway; save 50 percent. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can find out more about when a getaway is coming to a city near where you live or a city you\u2019d like to visit; or if you have any questions, call us at 1-800-FL-TODAY. We can get you registered by phone, or you can register online at FamilyLifeToday.com; but plan to join us this spring at one of our <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaways. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith that, we\u2019ve got to wrap things up for this week. Thanks for being with us. I hope you have a great weekend. I hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this weekend, and I hope you can join us back on Monday. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJohn Trent and Curt Hamner are going to be here. They\u2019ve gotten together with pastors, and counselors, and Bible teachers, and seminary professors, from all across the country, to talk about how central the issue of marriage is to <em>everything<\/em> in God\u2019s design. What they\u2019ve discovered is pretty interesting. They are going to be here on Monday to talk with us about that. 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