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Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth says, in those times, we have to remember that God\u2019s ways are not our ways.\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> God knows, with every one of us, exactly what is needed in our story for Him to be glorified in the long run, and for the gospel to be known, and for us to become more like Jesus. We say you can trust God to write\u2014W-R-I-T-E\u2014your story; and you can be sure that, in the end, He will right\u2014R-I-G-H-T\u2014your story. We can\u2019t see what that\u2019s going to look like or how that\u2019s going to be, but it is.\n\n<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, January 7<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. Trusting God in the storms\/in the trials doesn\u2019t mean that things are always going to work out the way <em>you<\/em> want them to work out; but it does mean that God knows what\u2019s best. We\u2019ll talk more about that today with Robert and Nancy Wolgemuth. Stay tuned.\n\nAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We were talking about this earlier\u2014you guys said the same thing I said when you got a copy of this book. You started thinking, \u201cI know somebody, right now, who needs this book\u2014somebody who could use the book.\u201d The book we\u2019re talking about is a book called <em>You Can Trust God to Write Your Story.<\/em>\n\nIt\u2019s written by friends we\u2019ve got joining us in the studio again today, Robert and Nancy Wolgemuth. Guys, welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> Thank you, Bob.\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> Thank you.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is a book that\u2019s all about God\u2019s providence. It\u2019s about those crisis times of life, where we wonder: \u201cIs God good?\u201d and \u201cIs He still in control?\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Honestly, none of us will go through life without experiencing pain and heartbreak. When we\u2019re in the valley, we\u2019re all looking for encouragement: \u201cI need help; I need hope.\u201d I think this book does that. It really takes us back to where our hope lies\u2014in Jesus.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You find out where your faith\u2014really, where your trust is\u2014in a valley.\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> The subtitle for the book is <em>Embracing the Mysteries<\/em> <em>of Providence.<\/em> That word, \u201cmystery,\u201d is so important\u2014because what God\u2019s up to, what His plans are, the story He\u2019s writing\u2014it does seem so mysterious at times. We have no idea where He\u2019s going, what He\u2019s doing, what He\u2019s up to. That\u2019s when we have to say, \u201cGod, I know <em>You<\/em> and I trust <em>You<\/em>, even when I can\u2019t see what You\u2019re doing.\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s important, Nancy: \u201cGod, I know <em>You <\/em>and trust <em>You<\/em>\u201d; because when we don\u2019t know Him and trust Him, that\u2019s when we begin to falter. I\u2019ll never forget when my sister, who was only 44, was diagnosed with lung cancer. I was driving, and I was praying\u2014I was like, \u201cLord, I need you to speak to me right now.\u201d\n\nI had turned on the radio, and Tony Evans was speaking. He was talking about building the foundation of your life. He said: \u201cYou never see somebody laying the foundation\/pouring the cement of the foundation of the house when there\u2019s a storm. You pour the foundation every day when things are going well.\u201d I remember thinking, \u201cOkay; God, I\u2019ve built a foundation in these days prior to this that I can lean on that and sit on it; because I\u2019m in the storm right now.\u201d\n\nHow do we <em>build<\/em> that foundation? How did you guys do that?\u2014because, as you talk, I <em>feel<\/em> God\u2019s presence; I feel you\u2019re grounded to the anchor of the truth of the gospel.\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> The subtitle starts with a great verb. Nancy and I collect verbs; we\u2019re writers, so we collect verbs. [Laughter]\n\n<em>Embracing<\/em>\u2014let\u2019s say you\u2019re a parent, and your kid\u2019s been in the backyard. Let\u2019s say you\u2019re dressed nicely, and they\u2019ve been in the mud. You get down on your knees when they come in the back door, and you embrace them. You can choose to embrace them, regardless of the soiling that\u2019s going to happen between their clothes and yours; you <em>choose<\/em> to embrace. You say: \u201cI\u2019m going to love you. I\u2019m going to embrace you. I\u2019m going to make you feel welcome in this home.\u201d\n\nYou take God\u2019s providence\u2014you can choose to embrace it. You feel like fighting it; you feel like arguing with it; you feel like denying it, or just saying, \u201cI don\u2019t want this; I don\u2019t like this.\u201d\n\nWhen Nancy and I\u2014when we went through the title and subtitle: \u201cWhat should we call this?\u201d The word, \u201cembracing,\u201d is a choice you make: \u201cI\u2019m going to take my circumstances\u2014I may not like them\u2014but I\u2019m going to embrace them; because I believe that God knows what He is doing.\u201d Why?\u2014\u201cBecause I trust Him. He loves me; He knows me. He made me; He sees the future. I\u2019m going to embrace what He\u2019s doing in my life right now.\u201d\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Here\u2019s the struggle\u2014I want to embrace the <em>certainty<\/em>, not some mystery.\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> Right; that\u2019s perfect.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Obviously, you chose another word that\u2019s very loaded as well. It\u2019s something we don\u2019t always embrace. I want to watch a great mystery movie; I want to read a great mystery novel\u2014I don\u2019t want my life to be a mystery\u2014I want it to be certain; I want to <em>know<\/em> what the future looks like.\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> That\u2019s so good.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> To embrace mystery\u2014talk about that.\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> If we wrote books and produced movies in the way we want our lives to turn out, they would be <em>boring<\/em>; right? [Laughter] Easy-peasy street, no challenges, no problems; but life isn\u2019t that way, and God isn\u2019t that way in the story He\u2019s writing for us. We live in a broken, sinful, fallen world.\n\nOne of the things that has helped my own faith\/my own foundation of faith, over many years, is to see, in the Scripture, the number of heroes of our faith\u2014we think they were incredible men and women of faith; a lot of them get written about in Hebrews,\n\nChapter 11\u2014that great \u201cHall of Faith.\u201d They were magnificent characters; but they <em>all<\/em> had things in their lives: twists and turns in the plot of their lives.\n\nWhen you take those pieces\u2014I\u2019m in the book of Daniel right now, reading in Daniel\u2014I\u2019m seeing the fiery furnace; and the king\u2019s wrath; and living in a pagan culture, where they\u2019re being persecuted for their faith. It\u2019s <em>hard<\/em>; but you see God taking these hard places, these mysteries, these parts of the script that seem off-course, and you see God redeeming them, and making things new, and working even\u2014not in spite of the problems\u2014but even <em>through<\/em> the problems to <em>shape<\/em> these men and women and make them men and women of God.\n\nYou look at the outcome of their lives and you say, \u201cWow; I want that!\u201d I look at somebody\u2014like a modern-day character, Joni Eareckson Tada\u2014who wrote the forward for this book, has spent over 50 years in a wheelchair as a quadriplegic. We\u2019ve all [those in the studio] been around her\u2014she\u2019s a woman of joy, indomitable faith; she\u2019s always singing hymns\u2014and you think, \u201cWow; I\u2019d love the <em>richness<\/em> of this woman\u2019s faith.\u201d But she didn\u2019t get there without going through some really hard places.\n\nYou say: \u201cI want the outcome, but I don\u2019t want to get there the way she got there. So, Lord, could you just get me to the glory and the sanctification, and my faith being like gold without the fire?\u201d God says: \u201cNo; you want the outcome?\u2014you want the gold\/the intimacy with Me?\u2014then let me walk you through places, where you think you have no hope, except to cling\u2014in raw, naked faith\u2014to a God, who is writing a story, the outcome of which you cannot see at this moment.\u201d\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> The other two wonderful words in this cover are <em>Your Story<\/em>. Everybody has a story. It would be fun, Nancy, if we had totaled them up: \u201cHow many people have we asked, \u2018Tell us your story\u2019?\u201d Everybody has a story; this is what this book has become\u2014it started out just being our story. Every chapter in this book\/every story in this book is about somebody that we know very well.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One of the places you go in this book\u2014after you share your story and after we see God\u2019s hand of providence in your lives\u2014you go right to the issue of trusting God to write your story when your marriage is in trouble. I\u2019m thinking, \u201cHow do you see the <em>goodness<\/em> of God when a marriage is falling apart?\u201d\n\nI\u2019m thinking of friends I know who are in the middle of that right now, and it\u2019s survival mode. It\u2019s grit-your-teeth kind of faith just to get up today and face today. They\u2019re thinking: \u201cHow am I going to pay this bill?\u201d \u201cHow am I going to take care of this?\u201d \u201cWhat do I say to the kids?\u201d How do you trust God to write that kind of a story when you\u2019re going, \u201cThis is not the kind of story I ever hoped to walk through\u201d?\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> The same questions could be asked about the person who\u2019s never had a mate and is longing for that\/about the person who\u2019s got a prodigal child. We tell those stories\u2014financial loss; physical terminal illnesses. Many of the stories in this book\u2014most of them\u2014don\u2019t have like put a bow around the story and give it a pretty, happy ending.\n\nThere are some amazing stories of God restoring and repairing marriages; but often, there are stories about marriage that did not end up with a marriage being restored. The person talking to us <em>longed<\/em> for that\u2014wanted it\/sought God for it\u2014but didn\u2019t get that desire of their heart. God doesn\u2019t always give us those things we think we want or need right now. But He is still writing a story in us, and through us, and for us that we can trust, in the end, will be beautiful; it will be good.\n\nSometimes, you just have to\u2014you know, your goal is not\u2014if your ultimate goal is for this marriage to work; or to get a mate; or to get healing; or to get financial\/get a job, or whatever, then you\u2019re going to be disappointed more often than not. But if your goal is to know God, to be right with Him, to be <em>in<\/em> the story that <em>He<\/em> is writing\u2014because ultimately, this is not our story; this is His story as He is redeeming this broken, fallen world. If that\u2019s what you care about, then that\u2019s what you\u2019re willing to lean into.\n\nWe talked with these people. We talked with a dear friend of ours, who went through the <em>horrible<\/em> pain of divorce after <em>years<\/em> of a very dysfunctional marriage with a very broken man. We heard in his wife, this now divorced woman, a sense of knowing God, and trusting God, and experiencing God\u2019s presence in her life in these really hard places that she\u2019s living in now, as a single mom. She wouldn\u2019t trade it. I mean, it sounds weird; it\u2019s counter to everything that\u2019s intuitive\u2014to say, \u201cMy marriage didn\u2019t get put back together.\u201d Of course, she longed for that; she still longs for it. If God would grant that, she would be thrilled; but more than that marriage being restored, she wants God to write a story of <em>grace<\/em> in her life. God is doing it. She is a <em>beautiful<\/em> woman; she is full of grace. She has evidence of God\u2019s hand and anointing on her life.\n\nAnd you say, \u201c\u2026at the expense of your marriage?\u201d Well, God knows with every one of us exactly what is needed in our story for Him to be glorified in the long run, and for the gospel to be known, and for us to become more like Jesus. We say you can trust God to write\u2014W-R-I-T-E\u2014your story; and you can be sure that, in the end, He will right\u2014R-I-G-H-T\u2014your story. We can\u2019t see what that\u2019s going to look like or how that\u2019s going to be, but it is.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I like that you\u2019re talking about that; because you talk, in the book, about when someone sins against you. If you lose a loved one, there\u2019s not a lot we can control in that situation sometimes. But if you have someone that\u2019s treating you poorly\u2014that you feel they\u2019re not walking with God; they\u2019re not following Him\u2014and \u201cMaybe if they were, my life would be different; because they would treat <em>me<\/em> differently.\u201d\n\nIt can feel like: \u201cIs God in control of <em>them<\/em>? How can I weigh that?\u201d \u201cLord, if You would just\u2026\u201d\u00a0 I used to think that about Dave: \u201cLord, if You would get Dave right on track, and he would be a better husband\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Can you believe she would think that about me? [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Robert: <\/strong>Yes.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> [Laughter] Robert!\n\n\u2014\u201cI would be happier.\u201d We put our happiness on the person\u2014of how they\u2019re treating us.\n\nYou\u2019re saying, \u201cNo; you can find that joy and trust in the mystery of God, even when that person\u2014it may seem like they\u2019re controlling you\u2014but ultimately, God is in control\u201d?\n\n<strong>Robert: <\/strong>Right.\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> We\u2019re walking with a precious friend right now through her story, which involves <em>years<\/em> of sexual abuse. That man has never repented\u2014the men, actually, multiple ones\u2014never acknowledged their wrongdoing; there\u2019s no evidence of change in <em>them<\/em>. It\u2019s messy; it\u2019s <em>hard<\/em>. There\u2019s no quick run to the finish line to see how this story\u2019s going to end.\n\nWe\u2019re watching God make this woman into a work of art\/into a work of grace. Would we ever have scripted that for her, or for anyone we love, or for ourselves?\u2014no! In the mystery and wisdom of God, all evil will be addressed; all wrongs will be righted, including the men who have so sinned against that woman. In the process, God is writing a story in <em>her<\/em> to make her a <em>trophy<\/em> of grace and mercy.\n\nI don\u2019t understand it; I don\u2019t get it. I hate it! I hate what sin does\u2014we all do. But God sometimes, as Joni Tada has reminded us, God will sometimes use what He hates to accomplish what He loves in our lives and in the lives of those that we love.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think, as one who\u2019s been through sexual abuse, I would say that same thing. Where Satan meant to take this and destroy me, God has used it in helping other people get free. In realizing that, it makes me want to show off my scars; because God has transformed me as a result of my scars.\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> This woman texted me last night, and she\u2019s still in the throes of walking through this. She said, \u201cSatan sure picked the wrong little girl.\u201d [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes!\n\n<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Because God is now using this woman in ways\u2014I won\u2019t go into details\u2014as He\u2019s using you, Ann\u2014in ways that\u2014how would the course of your whole life have been different?\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It has shaped me for good, rather than for evil, when we trust God and His mystery.\n\n<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Yes.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The person, who\u2019s in the pain, in the marriage that\u2019s not working out\u2014the husband or the wife, who is still being vindictive, or uncaring, or whatever\u2014they\u2019re thinking: \u201cI\u2019m to trust God that He\u2019s here; He\u2019s good. He could stop this; He could change that person\u2019s heart; He\u2019s not doing that. I\u2019m supposed to trust that it\u2019s all going to be for my good at some point?\u201d\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> You make peace about the fact that you have no control over this other person. What God does in us is\u2014He makes us ready for whatever happens to us. My happiness\/my joy does not depend on that other person coming around. I have to find completeness\u2014Colossians 2: \u201cI am complete in Him,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m not complete as a result of things going my way; I\u2019m complete in Him.\n\nThere I stand, independent of anything else, knowing God\u2019s grace is sufficient for me. I am a sinner; I am a total sinful man, and all of this is an image of God\u2019s grace in my life. God has given me the joy of seeing what He can do in the lives of people around me\u2014what He can do with the circumstances of my life, standing next to my wife\u2019s casket, and thinking, \u201cHow in the world can this turn out in any way that would be joy-filled?\u201d Now, I sit here next to Nancy; she\u2019s a picture of God\u2019s grace.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So, Robert, answer this because I know someone\u2019s thinking this: \u201cYou\u2019re sitting here with Nancy\u2014of course, you can have that perspective; but I\u2019m a guy, who lost my wife; and I have <em>never<\/em> found another soul mate. How do I have that same perspective?\u201d because I have a sense you\u2019d have this perspective either way.\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> I would hope so.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> How?\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> I would really hope so, because it\u2019s not up to Nancy to make me happy; it wasn\u2019t up to Bobbie to break my heart. This is something I\u2019ve got to reconcile myself, on my own.\n\nI would say to that guy, \u201cI\u2019m so sorry for your loss. Then, by God\u2019s grace, you say: \u2018What\u2019s next for me? I trust You to write this story. What\u2019s next for me?\u2019\u201d Gary Smalley, years ago, used to say, \u201cI get up in the morning and say: \u2018Lord, here I am. I\u2019m standing in line. When it\u2019s my turn to step up to the desk, I\u2019m going to take whatever You give me; and I\u2019m going to be grateful for it.\u2019\u201d\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> In the midst of crises, whether it\u2019s the little daily things or the monumental things that knock us off our feet\u2014I think it goes back, Ann, to what you were saying about laying a foundation for your life on the trustworthiness of God, and washing our hearts in His Word\u2014in passages like this one that just came to mind, Dave, as you were talking: \u201cNevertheless, I am continually with You. You hold my right hand. You guide me with Your counsel; and afterward, You will receive me to glory. Whom have I in heaven but You? There is nothing on earth that I desire besides You. My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever [Psalm 73:23-26].\u201d\n\nIf you soak your heart\/if I soak my heart in the Word of God\/the promises of God\u2019s Word\u2014day after day, week after week, year after year\u2014then, when these storm wash over my heart\u2014as Jesus said they would in Matthew, Chapter 7\u2014if I\u2019ve built my life on the Rock\/the foundation of God\u2019s promises in God\u2019s Word, then the storms are going to come, and I\u2019m going to feel them; but they\u2019re not going to knock my house down.\n\nIf I\u2019ve built my life on my emotions, on my circumstances, on how others treat me, or how life goes, then when those storms come\u2014as they will\u2014they\u2019re going to devastate me. Again, I go back to: \u201cIn the good times\u2014in the earlier years of your life\/in every moment of life\u2014learning to soak and saturate my heart in the promises of God\u2019s Word\/in His faithfulness\u2014there\u2019s no better way to prepare for standing at that graveside, dealing with that loss\/dealing with that pain.\u201d\n\nIt doesn\u2019t answer all the questions; but in that moment, it gives me a life preserver\/an anchor for my soul. The anchor is not a change in my circumstances, but it\u2019s the character of Christ.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I found, reading your book\u2014you know what surprised me?\u2014is I got through your story, and then I start reading story, after story, after story\u2014and all these situations that we all face\u2014marriage, singleness, financial pressures, people sinning against us, you name it\u2014I was so <em>inspired<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\n<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Not all these stories end with a nice little red bow at the end; they don\u2019t all work out; but I was inspired to trust God to a whole other level just by reading story after story. That\u2019s what stories do\u2014they inspire my faith\u2014like: \u201cYes, God can be trusted!\u201d It was such a beautiful\u2014\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> I\u2019m so glad you saw that, Dave.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m sure that\u2019s what you\u2019re hoping for; it\u2019s true.\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> The last thing we want is for us to be the hero of this book. When we\u2019d finish these conversations\u2014when we\u2019d hang up or leave their presence\u2014we would say: \u201cWe\u2019ve just been given this <em>amazing<\/em> gift. These people have opened their hearts and told us, not only the story, but the pain and the struggle. They\u2019ve entrusted to us this incredible gift. We are now stewards of this gift.\u201d Can you imagine? They\u2019re the heroes\u2014these parents that are still waiting for their prodigals.\n\nWe were with a woman, last night, whose story is in this book. Her husband is still very, very sick; we were with his wife. She\u2019s the hero, not us; she\u2019s the one who\u2019s walking by faith, not by sight. If this book gives us a chance to highlight the faith, the patience, the love for Christ in other people besides us, that\u2019s a win for us.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> If there\u2019s somebody, who\u2019s listening and thinking: \u201cI\u2019m in the dark place\/in the valley. I don\u2019t see the goodness of God, and I need to see it,\u201d this book will point you to it. That\u2019s where I hope a listener will get a copy of Robert and Nancy\u2019s book, <em>You Can Trust God to Write Your Story: Embracing the Mysteries of Providence<\/em>. Order the book from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to order: 1-800-FL-TODAY is our number. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-358-6329 to get more information about the book. Again, the number is 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\nBy the way, there\u2019s information on our website about Dave and Ann Wilson\u2019s new <em>Vertical<\/em> video series that FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> has put together\u2014five sessions that you and your small group or Sunday school class can go through\u2014all about how to go vertical in your marriage\/how to keep looking to God in the midst of marriage challenges. Check that out when you go to our website; or if you have any questions about that, give us a call.\n\nFinally, we want to mention something we\u2019re doing this week, for free, for <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>listeners. We were talking recently about the fact that, with a new year, lots of people make new resolutions about spending more time in God\u2019s Word, following a Bible reading plan. We talked to our friends at Logos Bible Software. We said, \u201cWe\u2019d like to find a way to give our listeners your software.\u201d They loved the idea; they put together a library of more than $2,000 worth of books; there\u2019s even a video study course on marriage that\u2019s a part of what they\u2019ve put together.\n\nThey\u2019re making this available for <em>free<\/em>. I know you\u2019re thinking, \u201cWhat\u2019s the catch?\u201d There\u2019s really no catch. When you get this system, you can go to work with it right away and start using it for Bible study on your phone, on your mobile device, on your tablet, on your computer. That\u2019s one of the great things about Logos\u2014is how it\u2019s portable like that.\n\nThey\u2019re hoping that, as you start to use this resource, you\u2019ll want to add books to your library, whether it\u2019s additional commentaries, or additional translations of the Bible, whatever it is. They\u2019re hoping you\u2019ll get engaged, and you\u2019ll continue to be a customer. We just want to see you start off with a great basic library of resources you can use that can help you be in God\u2019s Word more often, starting at day one. Again, it\u2019s all free. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com; click the link you see there for the Logos Bible Software system. You can download it today and start using it right away. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information.\n\nI hope you can join us, again, tomorrow. Robert and Nancy Wolgemuth are going to be here again. We\u2019re going to continue talking about the importance of understanding God\u2019s providence in the middle of what are often stressful, challenging, difficult marriage and family situations. I know some of you are in those right now. We\u2019ll continue the conversation on that tomorrow. I hope you can be back with us.\n\n<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\nI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\n<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\n<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\nWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\n\nCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2020 FamilyLife. 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DeMoss Wolgemuth and her husband, Robert, talk about the mysterious providence of God, and how He redeems the hard places and makes them new.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2020-01-07.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You\u2019ve probably heard people quote Romans 8:28\u2014that \u201cGod works all things together for good, for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose.\u201d Sometimes, it seems like the circumstances we\u2019re in aren\u2019t working for what <em>we<\/em> think our good should be. Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth says, in those times, we have to remember that God\u2019s ways are not our ways.\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> God knows, with every one of us, exactly what is needed in our story for Him to be glorified in the long run, and for the gospel to be known, and for us to become more like Jesus. We say you can trust God to write\u2014W-R-I-T-E\u2014your story; and you can be sure that, in the end, He will right\u2014R-I-G-H-T\u2014your story. We can\u2019t see what that\u2019s going to look like or how that\u2019s going to be, but it is.\n\n<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, January 7<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. Trusting God in the storms\/in the trials doesn\u2019t mean that things are always going to work out the way <em>you<\/em> want them to work out; but it does mean that God knows what\u2019s best. We\u2019ll talk more about that today with Robert and Nancy Wolgemuth. Stay tuned.\n\nAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We were talking about this earlier\u2014you guys said the same thing I said when you got a copy of this book. You started thinking, \u201cI know somebody, right now, who needs this book\u2014somebody who could use the book.\u201d The book we\u2019re talking about is a book called <em>You Can Trust God to Write Your Story.<\/em>\n\nIt\u2019s written by friends we\u2019ve got joining us in the studio again today, Robert and Nancy Wolgemuth. Guys, welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> Thank you, Bob.\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> Thank you.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is a book that\u2019s all about God\u2019s providence. It\u2019s about those crisis times of life, where we wonder: \u201cIs God good?\u201d and \u201cIs He still in control?\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Honestly, none of us will go through life without experiencing pain and heartbreak. When we\u2019re in the valley, we\u2019re all looking for encouragement: \u201cI need help; I need hope.\u201d I think this book does that. It really takes us back to where our hope lies\u2014in Jesus.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You find out where your faith\u2014really, where your trust is\u2014in a valley.\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> The subtitle for the book is <em>Embracing the Mysteries<\/em> <em>of Providence.<\/em> That word, \u201cmystery,\u201d is so important\u2014because what God\u2019s up to, what His plans are, the story He\u2019s writing\u2014it does seem so mysterious at times. We have no idea where He\u2019s going, what He\u2019s doing, what He\u2019s up to. That\u2019s when we have to say, \u201cGod, I know <em>You<\/em> and I trust <em>You<\/em>, even when I can\u2019t see what You\u2019re doing.\u201d\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s important, Nancy: \u201cGod, I know <em>You <\/em>and trust <em>You<\/em>\u201d; because when we don\u2019t know Him and trust Him, that\u2019s when we begin to falter. I\u2019ll never forget when my sister, who was only 44, was diagnosed with lung cancer. I was driving, and I was praying\u2014I was like, \u201cLord, I need you to speak to me right now.\u201d\n\nI had turned on the radio, and Tony Evans was speaking. He was talking about building the foundation of your life. He said: \u201cYou never see somebody laying the foundation\/pouring the cement of the foundation of the house when there\u2019s a storm. You pour the foundation every day when things are going well.\u201d I remember thinking, \u201cOkay; God, I\u2019ve built a foundation in these days prior to this that I can lean on that and sit on it; because I\u2019m in the storm right now.\u201d\n\nHow do we <em>build<\/em> that foundation? How did you guys do that?\u2014because, as you talk, I <em>feel<\/em> God\u2019s presence; I feel you\u2019re grounded to the anchor of the truth of the gospel.\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> The subtitle starts with a great verb. Nancy and I collect verbs; we\u2019re writers, so we collect verbs. [Laughter]\n\n<em>Embracing<\/em>\u2014let\u2019s say you\u2019re a parent, and your kid\u2019s been in the backyard. Let\u2019s say you\u2019re dressed nicely, and they\u2019ve been in the mud. You get down on your knees when they come in the back door, and you embrace them. You can choose to embrace them, regardless of the soiling that\u2019s going to happen between their clothes and yours; you <em>choose<\/em> to embrace. You say: \u201cI\u2019m going to love you. I\u2019m going to embrace you. I\u2019m going to make you feel welcome in this home.\u201d\n\nYou take God\u2019s providence\u2014you can choose to embrace it. You feel like fighting it; you feel like arguing with it; you feel like denying it, or just saying, \u201cI don\u2019t want this; I don\u2019t like this.\u201d\n\nWhen Nancy and I\u2014when we went through the title and subtitle: \u201cWhat should we call this?\u201d The word, \u201cembracing,\u201d is a choice you make: \u201cI\u2019m going to take my circumstances\u2014I may not like them\u2014but I\u2019m going to embrace them; because I believe that God knows what He is doing.\u201d Why?\u2014\u201cBecause I trust Him. He loves me; He knows me. He made me; He sees the future. I\u2019m going to embrace what He\u2019s doing in my life right now.\u201d\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Here\u2019s the struggle\u2014I want to embrace the <em>certainty<\/em>, not some mystery.\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> Right; that\u2019s perfect.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Obviously, you chose another word that\u2019s very loaded as well. It\u2019s something we don\u2019t always embrace. I want to watch a great mystery movie; I want to read a great mystery novel\u2014I don\u2019t want my life to be a mystery\u2014I want it to be certain; I want to <em>know<\/em> what the future looks like.\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> That\u2019s so good.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> To embrace mystery\u2014talk about that.\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> If we wrote books and produced movies in the way we want our lives to turn out, they would be <em>boring<\/em>; right? [Laughter] Easy-peasy street, no challenges, no problems; but life isn\u2019t that way, and God isn\u2019t that way in the story He\u2019s writing for us. We live in a broken, sinful, fallen world.\n\nOne of the things that has helped my own faith\/my own foundation of faith, over many years, is to see, in the Scripture, the number of heroes of our faith\u2014we think they were incredible men and women of faith; a lot of them get written about in Hebrews,\n\nChapter 11\u2014that great \u201cHall of Faith.\u201d They were magnificent characters; but they <em>all<\/em> had things in their lives: twists and turns in the plot of their lives.\n\nWhen you take those pieces\u2014I\u2019m in the book of Daniel right now, reading in Daniel\u2014I\u2019m seeing the fiery furnace; and the king\u2019s wrath; and living in a pagan culture, where they\u2019re being persecuted for their faith. It\u2019s <em>hard<\/em>; but you see God taking these hard places, these mysteries, these parts of the script that seem off-course, and you see God redeeming them, and making things new, and working even\u2014not in spite of the problems\u2014but even <em>through<\/em> the problems to <em>shape<\/em> these men and women and make them men and women of God.\n\nYou look at the outcome of their lives and you say, \u201cWow; I want that!\u201d I look at somebody\u2014like a modern-day character, Joni Eareckson Tada\u2014who wrote the forward for this book, has spent over 50 years in a wheelchair as a quadriplegic. We\u2019ve all [those in the studio] been around her\u2014she\u2019s a woman of joy, indomitable faith; she\u2019s always singing hymns\u2014and you think, \u201cWow; I\u2019d love the <em>richness<\/em> of this woman\u2019s faith.\u201d But she didn\u2019t get there without going through some really hard places.\n\nYou say: \u201cI want the outcome, but I don\u2019t want to get there the way she got there. So, Lord, could you just get me to the glory and the sanctification, and my faith being like gold without the fire?\u201d God says: \u201cNo; you want the outcome?\u2014you want the gold\/the intimacy with Me?\u2014then let me walk you through places, where you think you have no hope, except to cling\u2014in raw, naked faith\u2014to a God, who is writing a story, the outcome of which you cannot see at this moment.\u201d\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> The other two wonderful words in this cover are <em>Your Story<\/em>. Everybody has a story. It would be fun, Nancy, if we had totaled them up: \u201cHow many people have we asked, \u2018Tell us your story\u2019?\u201d Everybody has a story; this is what this book has become\u2014it started out just being our story. Every chapter in this book\/every story in this book is about somebody that we know very well.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One of the places you go in this book\u2014after you share your story and after we see God\u2019s hand of providence in your lives\u2014you go right to the issue of trusting God to write your story when your marriage is in trouble. I\u2019m thinking, \u201cHow do you see the <em>goodness<\/em> of God when a marriage is falling apart?\u201d\n\nI\u2019m thinking of friends I know who are in the middle of that right now, and it\u2019s survival mode. It\u2019s grit-your-teeth kind of faith just to get up today and face today. They\u2019re thinking: \u201cHow am I going to pay this bill?\u201d \u201cHow am I going to take care of this?\u201d \u201cWhat do I say to the kids?\u201d How do you trust God to write that kind of a story when you\u2019re going, \u201cThis is not the kind of story I ever hoped to walk through\u201d?\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> The same questions could be asked about the person who\u2019s never had a mate and is longing for that\/about the person who\u2019s got a prodigal child. We tell those stories\u2014financial loss; physical terminal illnesses. Many of the stories in this book\u2014most of them\u2014don\u2019t have like put a bow around the story and give it a pretty, happy ending.\n\nThere are some amazing stories of God restoring and repairing marriages; but often, there are stories about marriage that did not end up with a marriage being restored. The person talking to us <em>longed<\/em> for that\u2014wanted it\/sought God for it\u2014but didn\u2019t get that desire of their heart. God doesn\u2019t always give us those things we think we want or need right now. But He is still writing a story in us, and through us, and for us that we can trust, in the end, will be beautiful; it will be good.\n\nSometimes, you just have to\u2014you know, your goal is not\u2014if your ultimate goal is for this marriage to work; or to get a mate; or to get healing; or to get financial\/get a job, or whatever, then you\u2019re going to be disappointed more often than not. But if your goal is to know God, to be right with Him, to be <em>in<\/em> the story that <em>He<\/em> is writing\u2014because ultimately, this is not our story; this is His story as He is redeeming this broken, fallen world. If that\u2019s what you care about, then that\u2019s what you\u2019re willing to lean into.\n\nWe talked with these people. We talked with a dear friend of ours, who went through the <em>horrible<\/em> pain of divorce after <em>years<\/em> of a very dysfunctional marriage with a very broken man. We heard in his wife, this now divorced woman, a sense of knowing God, and trusting God, and experiencing God\u2019s presence in her life in these really hard places that she\u2019s living in now, as a single mom. She wouldn\u2019t trade it. I mean, it sounds weird; it\u2019s counter to everything that\u2019s intuitive\u2014to say, \u201cMy marriage didn\u2019t get put back together.\u201d Of course, she longed for that; she still longs for it. If God would grant that, she would be thrilled; but more than that marriage being restored, she wants God to write a story of <em>grace<\/em> in her life. God is doing it. She is a <em>beautiful<\/em> woman; she is full of grace. She has evidence of God\u2019s hand and anointing on her life.\n\nAnd you say, \u201c\u2026at the expense of your marriage?\u201d Well, God knows with every one of us exactly what is needed in our story for Him to be glorified in the long run, and for the gospel to be known, and for us to become more like Jesus. We say you can trust God to write\u2014W-R-I-T-E\u2014your story; and you can be sure that, in the end, He will right\u2014R-I-G-H-T\u2014your story. We can\u2019t see what that\u2019s going to look like or how that\u2019s going to be, but it is.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I like that you\u2019re talking about that; because you talk, in the book, about when someone sins against you. If you lose a loved one, there\u2019s not a lot we can control in that situation sometimes. But if you have someone that\u2019s treating you poorly\u2014that you feel they\u2019re not walking with God; they\u2019re not following Him\u2014and \u201cMaybe if they were, my life would be different; because they would treat <em>me<\/em> differently.\u201d\n\nIt can feel like: \u201cIs God in control of <em>them<\/em>? How can I weigh that?\u201d \u201cLord, if You would just\u2026\u201d\u00a0 I used to think that about Dave: \u201cLord, if You would get Dave right on track, and he would be a better husband\u2014\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Can you believe she would think that about me? [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Robert: <\/strong>Yes.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> [Laughter] Robert!\n\n\u2014\u201cI would be happier.\u201d We put our happiness on the person\u2014of how they\u2019re treating us.\n\nYou\u2019re saying, \u201cNo; you can find that joy and trust in the mystery of God, even when that person\u2014it may seem like they\u2019re controlling you\u2014but ultimately, God is in control\u201d?\n\n<strong>Robert: <\/strong>Right.\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> We\u2019re walking with a precious friend right now through her story, which involves <em>years<\/em> of sexual abuse. That man has never repented\u2014the men, actually, multiple ones\u2014never acknowledged their wrongdoing; there\u2019s no evidence of change in <em>them<\/em>. It\u2019s messy; it\u2019s <em>hard<\/em>. There\u2019s no quick run to the finish line to see how this story\u2019s going to end.\n\nWe\u2019re watching God make this woman into a work of art\/into a work of grace. Would we ever have scripted that for her, or for anyone we love, or for ourselves?\u2014no! In the mystery and wisdom of God, all evil will be addressed; all wrongs will be righted, including the men who have so sinned against that woman. In the process, God is writing a story in <em>her<\/em> to make her a <em>trophy<\/em> of grace and mercy.\n\nI don\u2019t understand it; I don\u2019t get it. I hate it! I hate what sin does\u2014we all do. But God sometimes, as Joni Tada has reminded us, God will sometimes use what He hates to accomplish what He loves in our lives and in the lives of those that we love.\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think, as one who\u2019s been through sexual abuse, I would say that same thing. Where Satan meant to take this and destroy me, God has used it in helping other people get free. In realizing that, it makes me want to show off my scars; because God has transformed me as a result of my scars.\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> This woman texted me last night, and she\u2019s still in the throes of walking through this. She said, \u201cSatan sure picked the wrong little girl.\u201d [Laughter]\n\n<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes!\n\n<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Because God is now using this woman in ways\u2014I won\u2019t go into details\u2014as He\u2019s using you, Ann\u2014in ways that\u2014how would the course of your whole life have been different?\n\n<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It has shaped me for good, rather than for evil, when we trust God and His mystery.\n\n<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Yes.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The person, who\u2019s in the pain, in the marriage that\u2019s not working out\u2014the husband or the wife, who is still being vindictive, or uncaring, or whatever\u2014they\u2019re thinking: \u201cI\u2019m to trust God that He\u2019s here; He\u2019s good. He could stop this; He could change that person\u2019s heart; He\u2019s not doing that. I\u2019m supposed to trust that it\u2019s all going to be for my good at some point?\u201d\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> You make peace about the fact that you have no control over this other person. What God does in us is\u2014He makes us ready for whatever happens to us. My happiness\/my joy does not depend on that other person coming around. I have to find completeness\u2014Colossians 2: \u201cI am complete in Him,\u201d\u2014I\u2019m not complete as a result of things going my way; I\u2019m complete in Him.\n\nThere I stand, independent of anything else, knowing God\u2019s grace is sufficient for me. I am a sinner; I am a total sinful man, and all of this is an image of God\u2019s grace in my life. God has given me the joy of seeing what He can do in the lives of people around me\u2014what He can do with the circumstances of my life, standing next to my wife\u2019s casket, and thinking, \u201cHow in the world can this turn out in any way that would be joy-filled?\u201d Now, I sit here next to Nancy; she\u2019s a picture of God\u2019s grace.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> So, Robert, answer this because I know someone\u2019s thinking this: \u201cYou\u2019re sitting here with Nancy\u2014of course, you can have that perspective; but I\u2019m a guy, who lost my wife; and I have <em>never<\/em> found another soul mate. How do I have that same perspective?\u201d because I have a sense you\u2019d have this perspective either way.\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> I would hope so.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> How?\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> I would really hope so, because it\u2019s not up to Nancy to make me happy; it wasn\u2019t up to Bobbie to break my heart. This is something I\u2019ve got to reconcile myself, on my own.\n\nI would say to that guy, \u201cI\u2019m so sorry for your loss. Then, by God\u2019s grace, you say: \u2018What\u2019s next for me? I trust You to write this story. What\u2019s next for me?\u2019\u201d Gary Smalley, years ago, used to say, \u201cI get up in the morning and say: \u2018Lord, here I am. I\u2019m standing in line. When it\u2019s my turn to step up to the desk, I\u2019m going to take whatever You give me; and I\u2019m going to be grateful for it.\u2019\u201d\n\n<strong>Nancy:<\/strong> In the midst of crises, whether it\u2019s the little daily things or the monumental things that knock us off our feet\u2014I think it goes back, Ann, to what you were saying about laying a foundation for your life on the trustworthiness of God, and washing our hearts in His Word\u2014in passages like this one that just came to mind, Dave, as you were talking: \u201cNevertheless, I am continually with You. You hold my right hand. You guide me with Your counsel; and afterward, You will receive me to glory. Whom have I in heaven but You? There is nothing on earth that I desire besides You. My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever [Psalm 73:23-26].\u201d\n\nIf you soak your heart\/if I soak my heart in the Word of God\/the promises of God\u2019s Word\u2014day after day, week after week, year after year\u2014then, when these storm wash over my heart\u2014as Jesus said they would in Matthew, Chapter 7\u2014if I\u2019ve built my life on the Rock\/the foundation of God\u2019s promises in God\u2019s Word, then the storms are going to come, and I\u2019m going to feel them; but they\u2019re not going to knock my house down.\n\nIf I\u2019ve built my life on my emotions, on my circumstances, on how others treat me, or how life goes, then when those storms come\u2014as they will\u2014they\u2019re going to devastate me. Again, I go back to: \u201cIn the good times\u2014in the earlier years of your life\/in every moment of life\u2014learning to soak and saturate my heart in the promises of God\u2019s Word\/in His faithfulness\u2014there\u2019s no better way to prepare for standing at that graveside, dealing with that loss\/dealing with that pain.\u201d\n\nIt doesn\u2019t answer all the questions; but in that moment, it gives me a life preserver\/an anchor for my soul. The anchor is not a change in my circumstances, but it\u2019s the character of Christ.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> And I found, reading your book\u2014you know what surprised me?\u2014is I got through your story, and then I start reading story, after story, after story\u2014and all these situations that we all face\u2014marriage, singleness, financial pressures, people sinning against us, you name it\u2014I was so <em>inspired<\/em>.\n\n<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\n<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Not all these stories end with a nice little red bow at the end; they don\u2019t all work out; but I was inspired to trust God to a whole other level just by reading story after story. That\u2019s what stories do\u2014they inspire my faith\u2014like: \u201cYes, God can be trusted!\u201d It was such a beautiful\u2014\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> I\u2019m so glad you saw that, Dave.\n\n<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019m sure that\u2019s what you\u2019re hoping for; it\u2019s true.\n\n<strong>Robert:<\/strong> The last thing we want is for us to be the hero of this book. When we\u2019d finish these conversations\u2014when we\u2019d hang up or leave their presence\u2014we would say: \u201cWe\u2019ve just been given this <em>amazing<\/em> gift. These people have opened their hearts and told us, not only the story, but the pain and the struggle. They\u2019ve entrusted to us this incredible gift. We are now stewards of this gift.\u201d Can you imagine? They\u2019re the heroes\u2014these parents that are still waiting for their prodigals.\n\nWe were with a woman, last night, whose story is in this book. Her husband is still very, very sick; we were with his wife. She\u2019s the hero, not us; she\u2019s the one who\u2019s walking by faith, not by sight. If this book gives us a chance to highlight the faith, the patience, the love for Christ in other people besides us, that\u2019s a win for us.\n\n<strong>Bob:<\/strong> If there\u2019s somebody, who\u2019s listening and thinking: \u201cI\u2019m in the dark place\/in the valley. I don\u2019t see the goodness of God, and I need to see it,\u201d this book will point you to it. That\u2019s where I hope a listener will get a copy of Robert and Nancy\u2019s book, <em>You Can Trust God to Write Your Story: Embracing the Mysteries of Providence<\/em>. Order the book from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to order: 1-800-FL-TODAY is our number. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-358-6329 to get more information about the book. Again, the number is 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\nBy the way, there\u2019s information on our website about Dave and Ann Wilson\u2019s new <em>Vertical<\/em> video series that FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> has put together\u2014five sessions that you and your small group or Sunday school class can go through\u2014all about how to go vertical in your marriage\/how to keep looking to God in the midst of marriage challenges. Check that out when you go to our website; or if you have any questions about that, give us a call.\n\nFinally, we want to mention something we\u2019re doing this week, for free, for <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>listeners. We were talking recently about the fact that, with a new year, lots of people make new resolutions about spending more time in God\u2019s Word, following a Bible reading plan. We talked to our friends at Logos Bible Software. We said, \u201cWe\u2019d like to find a way to give our listeners your software.\u201d They loved the idea; they put together a library of more than $2,000 worth of books; there\u2019s even a video study course on marriage that\u2019s a part of what they\u2019ve put together.\n\nThey\u2019re making this available for <em>free<\/em>. I know you\u2019re thinking, \u201cWhat\u2019s the catch?\u201d There\u2019s really no catch. When you get this system, you can go to work with it right away and start using it for Bible study on your phone, on your mobile device, on your tablet, on your computer. That\u2019s one of the great things about Logos\u2014is how it\u2019s portable like that.\n\nThey\u2019re hoping that, as you start to use this resource, you\u2019ll want to add books to your library, whether it\u2019s additional commentaries, or additional translations of the Bible, whatever it is. They\u2019re hoping you\u2019ll get engaged, and you\u2019ll continue to be a customer. We just want to see you start off with a great basic library of resources you can use that can help you be in God\u2019s Word more often, starting at day one. Again, it\u2019s all free. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com; click the link you see there for the Logos Bible Software system. You can download it today and start using it right away. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information.\n\nI hope you can join us, again, tomorrow. Robert and Nancy Wolgemuth are going to be here again. We\u2019re going to continue talking about the importance of understanding God\u2019s providence in the middle of what are often stressful, challenging, difficult marriage and family situations. I know some of you are in those right now. We\u2019ll continue the conversation on that tomorrow. I hope you can be back with us.\n\n<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\nI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. 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