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It\u2019s one that you just love; you take pleasure in. Once you get the taste of giving, you know, it\u2019s hard to go back.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> On this edition of <em>FamilyLife This Week, <\/em>we\u2019re going to help you get addicted to giving, right now at Christmas, and all year round. Stay tuned.<\/p>\n<p>Welcome to <em>FamilyLife This Week. <\/em>I\u2019m Michelle Hill. That addictive behavior in giving\u2014that\u2019s a pretty provocative thought; isn\u2019t it? Well, we\u2019re going to talk to Randy Alcorn about that; but on the flip side of giving is, \u201cWell, how are we going to pay for this?!\u201d I brought my good friend, Steve Moore, in to talk to us about setting up a budget for giving and for Christmas gifting. That\u2019s coming up a little bit later.<\/p>\n<p>But first, let\u2019s talk about Christmas. I don\u2019t know about you, but my tree is already up. In fact, I blew a fuse getting all of those lights on the tree. Christmas, for me, is like snowflakes, which is like catnip for me! I don\u2019t think I\u2019m the only one. In fact, Dennis and Barbara Rainey\u2019s daughter, Rebecca\u2014she is exactly the same way as me\u2014addicted to Christmas. This brings me to a famous Rainey family legend about a Christmas morning that went wrong.<\/p>\n<p>[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>Interview]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> [Laughter] Oh, my goodness!\u2014Christmas mishaps! Yes, you know, there are always Christmas mishaps, I think. One year\u2014I will be made fun of [about] this for my life, because I am more of the emotional person in the family\u2014out of all the kids, I tend to be more emotional. I <em>love <\/em>doing gifts, and so does Ashley and a few other people. We are like, \u201cCan\u2019t we just do a few gifts this year?\u201d I mentioned off-hand: \u201cI\u2019d really like a hairdryer. I just really need a new one; mine\u2019s broken.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ashley:<\/strong> So we all conspired to get her six hairdryers.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ben:<\/strong> I don\u2019t remember if it was we were going to gang up on Rebecca, in a funny kind of way; apparently, the joke was lost on her for some reason or another; I don\u2019t really remember why that was.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ashley:<\/strong> Who was the instigator in it? You know, I\u2019m not really sure. You know, it could have even been my father.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Samuel was totally the instigator!\u2014are you kidding me?!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Samuel:<\/strong> That was kind of my role in the family\u2014was to be the jokester that kind of picked on everybody. My younger sister, Rebecca, wanted a hairdryer for Christmas. Kind of being the prankster that I was, I decided to get everybody in the family to get her a hairdryer, so we bought her six of the exact same hairdryers.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> I think part of what bothered me was that everyone else was in on it and thought it was so hilarious.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ashley:<\/strong> I would like to say Rebecca has matured now, as a mother, and she\u2019s over it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ben:<\/strong> There\u2019s still scars there! I suppose that\u2019s something we could drudge up at the next Thanksgiving family reunion.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Laura:<\/strong> She mentioned all she wanted for Christmas was a hairdryer. So\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> So I opened up my first gift, and it is a hairdryer.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Laura:<\/strong> She opened it; she was so excited.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> I was so excited! I know who it was from, but I\u2019m not going to say. So then, I get a second gift, and I open it up; and it\u2019s another hairdryer, but this one is a travel hairdryer; and the travel one was smaller, so it was perfect to fit in my bag. I\u2019m saying all of this to everyone: \u201cIt\u2019s great! Thanks so much! I really appreciate it!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Well, by the fourth one, I was like, \u201cPlease say it isn\u2019t!\u201d You know what I mean?\u2014like, \u201cPlease tell me it\u2019s not another hairdryer!\u201d And it was.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Laura:<\/strong> She mentioned all she wanted for Christmas was a hairdryer.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ben:<\/strong> Apparently, the joke was lost on her for some reason or another.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ashley:<\/strong> I would like to say Rebecca has matured now, but I think she\u2019s probably over it and has moved on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> By the fourth one, I\u2019m starting to get my feelings hurt because, now, I have four hairdryers; and people are starting to laugh. I definitely start crying, because I feel like this is just not funny to me: \u201cThis is just not funny.\u201d The more that I cried, the more that they <em>laughed<\/em> at me even <em>harder<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>You know what? At that moment, as everyone was laughing at me, and I was sitting there crying, I was just sitting there, feeling like I am just this caged bird in this family; and I just want out: \u201cI just want out!\u201d For the last 15 years, I have just been like wanting out of this ridiculous joke. It has been like every family time we get together, everyone\/someone brings it up and just thinks it\u2019s <em>so hilarious<\/em>; and it just isn\u2019t!<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Oh, Rebecca! That\u2019s got to be the <em>worst<\/em> Christmas nightmare <em>ever<\/em>! I just don\u2019t understand how you <em>survived<\/em> it, or how you could talk about it on national radio. Oh, wait! Was there another motive?<\/p>\n<p>[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Interview]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> I know that everyone was in on this joke, but the one person who really instigated the whole thing was Samuel. So Samuel\u2014you, my friend\u2014you have been stung on national radio. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> He\u2019s exposed as the culprit of the great hairdryer conspiracy! [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He can take it! He\u2019s got broad shoulders.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Oh, yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> But here she is crying on Christmas Day?!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> She was! Then I started feeling <em>terrible,<\/em> because I was in on it too. I thought it would be kind of fun. But when she started crying, I just thought: \u201cOh, my gosh! We really have made a mistake.\u201d I felt terrible for her.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We really were not counting on our daughter beginning to cry. I mean, she really didn\u2019t get it; you know, she really didn\u2019t get it. She was in the moment, and she thought everybody had just made a big mistake in buying these things.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> And she thought that was all she was getting, and it was just too much to handle. [Laughter] Bless her heart!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; she did have\u2014there were a few other presents, over on the side, that you had\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Oh, yes, there were; but she didn\u2019t know that at the time. Bless her heart!\u2014she really thought that\u2019s all we had done.<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Oh, poor Rebecca. Putting myself in her shoes, that would have been a hard Christmas morning to come back from.<\/p>\n<p>Even though there are hard Christmas mornings\u2014we\u2019ve probably all dealt with them\u2014not every Christmas morning is that hard. In fact, there are a lot of Christmas mornings that have a lot of joy in them; but the hard ones\u2014that\u2019s extra-hard to do those nice things, like say, \u201cThank you,\u201d or write that thank-you note.<\/p>\n<p>For Barbara Rainey, one of the values in their household is writing thank-you notes. It is a trait that she instilled in her children; and she\u2019s enjoying receiving thank-you notes from her grandchildren, which means her children passed that on to them. Not long ago, Barbara talked with Dennis and Bob about the importance of being appreciated.<\/p>\n<p>[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Interview]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Parents\u2014moms and dads, but especially moms\u2014give their lives for their kids. We\u2019re just naturally sacrificial: denying ourselves, serving our kids, getting up in the middle of the night\u2014all of that stuff. And so I think there is a sense in which I wished for a little bit of appreciation. But as I thought about it, it\u2019s not just because I wanted to be thanked\u2014although that was a part of it\u2014but it was more because I wanted them to recognize that the reason I was doing everything that I was doing for them was because I loved them so much. I wasn\u2019t doing it out of duty. I did what I did for my children because I desperately loved them, and I wanted them to know that I loved them.<\/p>\n<p>Their recognizing the things that I did would have been a way for me to understand that they got it. I also wanted them to be thankful because I knew how important it was for them to have an attitude that accepted what came into their lives from the hand of God. That has to be trained in our kids.<\/p>\n<p>As we\u2019ve said earlier, being grateful is not natural to any of us, and so learning to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d\u2014to be grateful\/to express that\u2014that was a really big thing for me\u2014was to teach our kids to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d whenever they were given something, or helped, or served. There were plenty of times when our kids said, \u201cAh, thanks!\u201d [Laughter] Or they said it, and you could tell it wasn\u2019t really heartfelt; but it just doesn\u2019t matter, because it\u2019s the training that matters. Over a long time, they will eventually get it.<\/p>\n<p>One of the other things that I was insistent on with my kids is that they write thank-you notes to their grandparents at Christmas, after they got a Christmas gift; or on their birthdays after they got something for their birthday; because I wanted them, again, to learn to express gratitude and thanks to the people who gave them something.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s interesting to see now that my kids\/our kids, as adults, are training <em>their<\/em> children to write thank-you notes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I <em>love <\/em>getting these little thank-you notes from our grandkids in the mail: \u201cThank you, Mimi and Papa, for the present you sent,\u201d\u2014because I know that they [her children] caught that. They got it, even though they didn\u2019t always enjoy doing it\u2014they complained because I made them write thank you notes\u2014but now, they\u2019re doing it with their children.<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> That was Barbara Rainey, reminding us of the value of appreciation and gratitude for what we\u2019ve received. There\u2019s <em>huge <\/em>value in the \u201cThank you.\u201d Think how you feel when you spend time shopping or, even, making a gift for someone. If it\u2019s the perfect gift, you\u2019re just as excited about it as the recipient; and you kind of want to be thanked or, at least, acknowledged; right?\u2014even if it is a hairdryer.<\/p>\n<p>Hey! We\u2019re going to take a break; but when we come back, we\u2019re going to talk about giving and budgeting this Christmas. And we just might answer the question: \u201cIs there really a Santa Claus?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>[Radio Station Spot Break]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Welcome back to <em>FamilyLife This Week<\/em>. I'm Michelle Hill. This weekend, we are talking about Christmas giving and receiving. If you\u2019re like me, you want to be generous and give, give, give; but unfortunately, there\u2019s a limitation to my bank account.<\/p>\n<p>Right now, we\u2019re going to talk about a gift that you might not realize is a gift; because it doesn\u2019t come with a big, red bow on it on Christmas morning\u2014it\u2019s your financial gift at Christmas or at this yearend to ministries, to churches, and to missionaries. A while back, Dennis and Bob had a chance to sit down with Randy Alcorn and talk about the blessings that come with giving.<\/p>\n<p>Randy is an author of the best-selling book, <em>Heaven, <\/em>along with other numerous other books, including <em>The Treasure Principle<\/em>. He lives in Oregon with his wife Nancy. They have two daughters and five grandchildren. When he spoke with Bob and Dennis, Randy said that there\u2019s a significant joy that comes from being generous with what God has given us. Oh, and here comes that addiction part\u2014<\/p>\n<p>[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Interview]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> Giving is an addictive behavior; it\u2019s a very <em>positive<\/em> addiction. It\u2019s one that you just love; you take pleasure in. Talking about people\u2019s joy in giving reminds me of Ebenezer Scrooge in <em>A Christmas Carol. <\/em>At the end of <em>The Treasure Principle, <\/em>I quote from <em>A Christmas Carol, <\/em>where, after Scrooge\u2019s encounters with the three spirits on Christmas Day, here this miserly businessman is given another chance at life. Here\u2019s what it says\u2014and notice the emphasis on the <em>change<\/em>: what giving was doing to Scrooge and what perspective was doing to Scrooge\u2019s giving. It says:<\/p>\n<p>He went to church, and he walked about the streets. He watched the people hurrying to and fro. He patted children on the head. He helped beggars. He looked down into the kitchens of houses. He looked up in the windows. He found everything could yield him pleasure. He had never dreamed that any walk\/that anything could give him so much happiness as this.<\/p>\n<p>And then it ends with this statement:<\/p>\n<p>Some people laughed to see the alteration in Scrooge, but he let them laugh and little heeded them. His own heart laughed, and that was quite enough for him. And it was always said of him that he knew how to keep Christmas well if any man alive possessed the knowledge.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Randy, I want to wrap things up here by just, perhaps, reviewing some principles from your book, <em>The Treasure Principle<\/em>; but also, it seems that one of the things we err on the side of is silence when it comes to giving. We don\u2019t talk a great deal about giving, because we\u2019re afraid that somehow\u2014well, we read over in Matthew, Chapter 6, that if we talk about these things, we could lose our reward.<\/p>\n<p>Certainly, that\u2019s true; the Bible makes it clear we\u2019re not to boast, and not to do things to receive the applause of people; but, on the other hand, we really need to hear from some couples\/families that are real heroes\/courageous givers. I think you call them \u201cGiving warriors.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. Scripture says we are to \u201cstimulate one another to love and good works.\u201d We can\u2019t stimulate each other to something\/we can\u2019t be an example to each other in an area without people knowing some basic facts of what we\u2019re doing. In the same way that I would know who to go to to ask for advice on how to cultivate a prayer life, I want to know who to go to\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> \u2014to learn all we can learn about giving, and the joy of giving, and \u201cHow do you do it?\u201d and \u201cHow did you get started on this path of giving?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> In your book, <em>The Treasure Principle<\/em>, you lay out six basic principles that should govern our thinking with regard to our stuff: our money, our resources, and how we ought to use it. Can you quickly go through those for us?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> Yes; the treasure principleitself is: \u201cYou can\u2019t take it with you, but you can send it on ahead.\u201d This is where Jesus says, \u201cDon\u2019t lay up treasures on earth, but <em>do <\/em>lay up treasures in heaven,\u201d\u2014\u201cYou can\u2019t take it with you; you can send it on ahead.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The first key is that: \u201cGod owns everything; I\u2019m His money-manager.\u201d I remember: \u201cWhose assets are these? They belong, not to me; they belong to God, and I\u2019ve been entrusted with them to invest wisely for His kingdom.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The second key is: \u201cMy heart always goes where I put God\u2019s money.\u201d That\u2019s based on what Jesus says in that same context: \u201cWhere your treasure is, there your heart will be also.\u201d If I want a heart for God\u2019s kingdom, there\u2019s a way to get it; and that\u2019s to <em>give <\/em>to God\u2019s kingdom.<\/p>\n<p>The third key to the treasure principle is that: \u201cHeaven, not earth, is my home.\u201d As long as I think of earth as my home, I\u2019m going to naturally lay up my treasures here; but when I realize that heaven is my home, I\u2019m going to focus on giving, investing in eternity, and laying up treasures in heaven.<\/p>\n<p>Key number four: \u201cI should live, not for the dot, but for the line\u201d; because, you know, our life here is brief: it begins, and it ends. It\u2019s like a dot, but from that dot extends a line that goes out for all eternity; so if we\u2019re smart, we\u2019re not going to live <em>for <\/em>the dot, we\u2019re going to live for the line.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> We\u2019re going to live in light of eternity.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> And the Bible says our life is like a mist or a vapor; it vanishes quickly in light of eternity; but we have to have, as you suggest, an eternal perspective.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> Yes, that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>Key number five: \u201cGiving is the only antidote to materialism.\u201d Materialism is really a disease. Sometimes, it\u2019s called \u201caffluenza\u201d; you know? [Laughter] And it\u2019s something that needs a cure; it needs an antidote. Giving is that antidote: it says, \u201cNo,\u201d to just the accumulation of stuff; and it says, \u201cYes,\u201d to investing in eternity.<\/p>\n<p>Then the sixth and final key to the treasure principle is that: \u201cGod prospers me, not to raise my standard of living, but to raise my standard of giving.\u201d The reason He has entrusted this stuff to me\u2014I should not assume is just so I can keep it\u2014in the same way that the FedEx guy shouldn\u2019t assume that, \u201cJust because somebody gave me these packages means I should take them home.\u201d [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> There was a part in Randy\u2019s discussion with Dennis and Bob that stuck with me: \u201cIf you want a heart for God\u2019s kingdom, you should give to God\u2019s kingdom\u201d; because, really, if you think about it, all good gifts come from the Father; so if He gives to us generously, how can we be stingy with what we give back to Him? That\u2019s kind of an uncomfortable thought; isn\u2019t it? Well, I encourage you to listen to the entire discussion by going to FamilyLifeThisWeek.com; that\u2019s FamilyLifeThisWeek.com.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, so money\u2014money, we know, is a big issue, whether you\u2019re giving it away or you are keeping it, or whether you\u2019re buying Christmas presents with it. Having it in excess and not having enough of it\u2014we\u2019ve got both sides of the issue that can get us into trouble.<\/p>\n<p>Before we get into trouble, I wanted to turn to a friend, whom I\u2019ve known for many years. I met this next guest on my first day on the job at a radio station in Alaska. He was there to help out the local station. Steve Moore is a radio veteran, just like Bob Lepine. He\u2019s co-host of the daily radio call-in program, <em>MoneyWise<\/em>. Hi, Steve!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> Hello, Michelle!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> So how does it work between you and Marsha? I know one of you has probably got to be the generous giver, and one of you is a little stingy. How does that work in your marriage at Christmastime?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> When it comes to Christmas, it has to do with my wife wanting to be more generous than I want to be. I\u2019m always the frugal guy, and she\u2019s the one who leads with her heart. It really has to do with: \u201cHow much money we\u2019re going to spend on Christmas?\u201d We tended to spend more on our children when they were younger, wanting their Christmases to be like our Christmases were, which were pretty generous on behalf of our parents; but as my children got older\u2014particularly, as they moved out of the house\u2014I found myself getting a bit tighter with the dollars.<\/p>\n<p>The bottom line is Marsha and I had to learn how to discuss money <em>before<\/em> Christmas and come to an agreement. We actually\u2014we would pray; and that alone, sometimes, could be somewhat awkward; because you\u2019re sitting down with your spouse to tell God that you\u2019re not in agreement, and asking for His help and blessing. Like it or not, that\u2019s always a little strained and a little strange, perhaps. But we would pray about it, then we would talk about it, then we would toss out a dollar figure that felt good to us.<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, almost always, my figure and Marsha\u2019s figure would be within a few dollars of each other, even though we <em>sensed<\/em> we were going to have a major disagreement. I really do believe that a husband and wife should get together: admit to one another that you have different agendas and different dollar figures in mind; ask God to intervene and help you. Most likely, you\u2019re going to find a happy medium\u2014something that may not be her best but won\u2019t be your worst\u2014and will fit into God\u2019s economy and God\u2019s plan for your family and your children.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> I also have a question\u2014as in we know, these days, that the Christmas wish lists from kids are a mile long; and parents want to give the kids <em>everything<\/em> on that list. Give us some tips on how we can avoid debt.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s probably tougher with smaller children, because it\u2019s hard to explain the realities of gift-giving to little children, who watch too much television and believe that every gift they hope for is going to be there on Christmas morning, under the tree. But it\u2019s worth discussing; obviously, it\u2019s worth discussing with small children\u2014even the real reason for Christmas and the Christmas story.<\/p>\n<p>At some point, explaining that: \u201cYou may not get everything. God blesses us with all sorts of wonderful things, particularly at the Christmas season, but not necessarily <em>everything<\/em>.\u201d Obviously, as your children get a little bit older, you can explain to them that: \u201cMom and Dad, as a family, can\u2019t afford to buy you <em>everything<\/em>; so what are the two or three things that you really would like to see Christmas morning?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Then you and your husband\/you and your wife discuss these things; pray about these things; and best of all, budget these things way in advance. Now, if it\u2019s already November or December and you haven\u2019t budgeted, then you\u2019ll have to give God an opportunity to work creatively in your lives; but going into deep debt to buy the latest thing on TV is probably not the way to go.<\/p>\n<p>More than likely, when you talk to adult children, they <em>never<\/em> remember the doo-dads and the plastic things they wanted. They remember the time spent together as a family; they remember visiting friends and relatives; they remember Christmas meals. Those are the memories, typically, that have the greatest influence on children as they become young adults, not whether or not they received the latest plastic gizmo.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Okay; so Steve, I love giving at Christmas. I love giving Christmas presents; but I have to buy, and I have a very limited budget. Help me understand how to avoid credit card debt.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> Remember, the reason parents may be struggling to pay for Christmas is because they didn\u2019t think about it in advance. If that\u2019s the case this year, you need to budget for <em>next <\/em>Christmas. Review what you spent this year, then plan ahead for <em>next<\/em> Christmas. If you spent $600 this year, start setting aside $50\/month for <em>next<\/em> Christmas. I know it may not <em>feel <\/em>good; you want to put it in the back of your mind. The only way to prepare for something 12 months further out is to start doing your homework, right now, and to start setting aside some money, right now, so that <em>next <\/em>Christmas is all that you want it to be for you and your family.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Great. Thanks, Steve; that\u2019s great advice. I\u2019ll keep that in mind as I finish up my Christmas presents, like the rest of America. Hopefully, not everybody else is buying on the 20<sup>th<\/sup> like I am.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, one last question before I let you go: \u201cIs there a Santa Claus?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know if there\u2019s really a Santa Claus. [Laughter] There is a fat guy, that lives on my block, with a beard; but I\u2019ve called the police, and they\u2019re checking him out.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Oh!! [Laughter] Well, Steve, thanks for joining us today on <em>FamilyLife This Week. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> Alright, kiddo! My pleasure. If you ever come to Atlanta, let us know; we\u2019ll buy you lunch!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> I\u2019ll take you up on that. Thanks, Steve.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> Alright, Michelle. God bless!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> That was Steve Moore, giving parents some help on giving. Actually, I have a friend who has begun the tradition of the four-gift rule\u2014it is: one thing they want, one thing they need, one thing to wear, and one thing they read. Did you get that?\u2014want, need, wear, and read. We\u2019ve got that on our website. Go to FamilyLifeThisWeek.com; that\u2019s FamilyLifeThisWeek.com.<\/p>\n<p>So, Miss Universe always says that what she wants most, within that year that she\u2019s going to win, you know, the crown\u2014she says she wants \u201cworld peace.\u201d Doesn\u2019t that sound nice? I want world peace too. Well, we\u2019re going to talk about world peace\u2014okay, maybe not world peace\u2014but we\u2019re going to talk about <em>true <\/em>peace next week with Voddie Baucham. You\u2019ll want to tune in for that: <em>FamilyLife This Week.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Hey, thanks for listening! I want to thank the president of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, David Robbins, along with our station partners around the country. And a big \u201cThank you!\u201d to our engineer today, Keith Lynch, who puts up with the crazy in me graciously. Thanks to our producers, Bruce Goff, Marques Holt, and Phil Krause. They make me sound a lot better than I am. Justin Adams is our mastering engineer, and Megan Martin is our production coordinator extraordinaire.<\/p>\n<p>Our program is a production of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, and our mission is to effectively develop godly families who change the world one home at a time.<\/p>\n<p>I'm Michelle Hill, inviting you to join me again next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife This Week.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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help you get ready for gift giving-and charitable giving-this Christmas, Barbara Rainey, Randy Alcorn, Steve Moore, and some of the Raineys' adult children join us.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"<ul>\n<li>How do you decide how much to buy, or spend on, your kids at Christmas?\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/familylifeministry\/photos\/a.453684506248\/10156389075751249\/?type=3&amp;theater\">Try the 4 gift rule! <\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/series\/the-season-of-gratitude\/\">Barbara Rainey recalls how she and her husband, Dennis Rainey<\/a>, prompted their own children to be thankful by initiating mealtime prayers, learning Scripture songs, and writing thank you notes to those who had blessed them.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/series\/were-in-the-money-now-what\/\">Randy Alcorn talks about the benefits of being a cheerful giver.<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/familylife-podcast-network\/\">Check out all that's available on the FamilyLife Podcast Network<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/legacy\">Learn more about becoming a Legacy Partner, a monthly supporter of FamilyLife.\u00a0<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/flw\/flw2019-12-14.pdf","transcript_content":"<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> When I say the word, \u201caddiction,\u201d there may be some negative feelings that you have; but according to Randy Alcorn, that might not always be the case.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> Giving is an addictive behavior; it\u2019s a very <em>positive<\/em> addiction. It\u2019s one that you just love; you take pleasure in. Once you get the taste of giving, you know, it\u2019s hard to go back.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> On this edition of <em>FamilyLife This Week, <\/em>we\u2019re going to help you get addicted to giving, right now at Christmas, and all year round. Stay tuned.<\/p>\n<p>Welcome to <em>FamilyLife This Week. <\/em>I\u2019m Michelle Hill. That addictive behavior in giving\u2014that\u2019s a pretty provocative thought; isn\u2019t it? Well, we\u2019re going to talk to Randy Alcorn about that; but on the flip side of giving is, \u201cWell, how are we going to pay for this?!\u201d I brought my good friend, Steve Moore, in to talk to us about setting up a budget for giving and for Christmas gifting. That\u2019s coming up a little bit later.<\/p>\n<p>But first, let\u2019s talk about Christmas. I don\u2019t know about you, but my tree is already up. In fact, I blew a fuse getting all of those lights on the tree. Christmas, for me, is like snowflakes, which is like catnip for me! I don\u2019t think I\u2019m the only one. In fact, Dennis and Barbara Rainey\u2019s daughter, Rebecca\u2014she is exactly the same way as me\u2014addicted to Christmas. This brings me to a famous Rainey family legend about a Christmas morning that went wrong.<\/p>\n<p>[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>Interview]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> [Laughter] Oh, my goodness!\u2014Christmas mishaps! Yes, you know, there are always Christmas mishaps, I think. One year\u2014I will be made fun of [about] this for my life, because I am more of the emotional person in the family\u2014out of all the kids, I tend to be more emotional. I <em>love <\/em>doing gifts, and so does Ashley and a few other people. We are like, \u201cCan\u2019t we just do a few gifts this year?\u201d I mentioned off-hand: \u201cI\u2019d really like a hairdryer. I just really need a new one; mine\u2019s broken.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ashley:<\/strong> So we all conspired to get her six hairdryers.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ben:<\/strong> I don\u2019t remember if it was we were going to gang up on Rebecca, in a funny kind of way; apparently, the joke was lost on her for some reason or another; I don\u2019t really remember why that was.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ashley:<\/strong> Who was the instigator in it? You know, I\u2019m not really sure. You know, it could have even been my father.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> Samuel was totally the instigator!\u2014are you kidding me?!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Samuel:<\/strong> That was kind of my role in the family\u2014was to be the jokester that kind of picked on everybody. My younger sister, Rebecca, wanted a hairdryer for Christmas. Kind of being the prankster that I was, I decided to get everybody in the family to get her a hairdryer, so we bought her six of the exact same hairdryers.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> I think part of what bothered me was that everyone else was in on it and thought it was so hilarious.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ashley:<\/strong> I would like to say Rebecca has matured now, as a mother, and she\u2019s over it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ben:<\/strong> There\u2019s still scars there! I suppose that\u2019s something we could drudge up at the next Thanksgiving family reunion.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Laura:<\/strong> She mentioned all she wanted for Christmas was a hairdryer. So\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> So I opened up my first gift, and it is a hairdryer.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Laura:<\/strong> She opened it; she was so excited.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> I was so excited! I know who it was from, but I\u2019m not going to say. So then, I get a second gift, and I open it up; and it\u2019s another hairdryer, but this one is a travel hairdryer; and the travel one was smaller, so it was perfect to fit in my bag. I\u2019m saying all of this to everyone: \u201cIt\u2019s great! Thanks so much! I really appreciate it!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Well, by the fourth one, I was like, \u201cPlease say it isn\u2019t!\u201d You know what I mean?\u2014like, \u201cPlease tell me it\u2019s not another hairdryer!\u201d And it was.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Laura:<\/strong> She mentioned all she wanted for Christmas was a hairdryer.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ben:<\/strong> Apparently, the joke was lost on her for some reason or another.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ashley:<\/strong> I would like to say Rebecca has matured now, but I think she\u2019s probably over it and has moved on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> By the fourth one, I\u2019m starting to get my feelings hurt because, now, I have four hairdryers; and people are starting to laugh. I definitely start crying, because I feel like this is just not funny to me: \u201cThis is just not funny.\u201d The more that I cried, the more that they <em>laughed<\/em> at me even <em>harder<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>You know what? At that moment, as everyone was laughing at me, and I was sitting there crying, I was just sitting there, feeling like I am just this caged bird in this family; and I just want out: \u201cI just want out!\u201d For the last 15 years, I have just been like wanting out of this ridiculous joke. It has been like every family time we get together, everyone\/someone brings it up and just thinks it\u2019s <em>so hilarious<\/em>; and it just isn\u2019t!<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Oh, Rebecca! That\u2019s got to be the <em>worst<\/em> Christmas nightmare <em>ever<\/em>! I just don\u2019t understand how you <em>survived<\/em> it, or how you could talk about it on national radio. Oh, wait! Was there another motive?<\/p>\n<p>[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Interview]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rebecca:<\/strong> I know that everyone was in on this joke, but the one person who really instigated the whole thing was Samuel. So Samuel\u2014you, my friend\u2014you have been stung on national radio. [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> He\u2019s exposed as the culprit of the great hairdryer conspiracy! [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He can take it! He\u2019s got broad shoulders.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Oh, yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> But here she is crying on Christmas Day?!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> She was! Then I started feeling <em>terrible,<\/em> because I was in on it too. I thought it would be kind of fun. But when she started crying, I just thought: \u201cOh, my gosh! We really have made a mistake.\u201d I felt terrible for her.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We really were not counting on our daughter beginning to cry. I mean, she really didn\u2019t get it; you know, she really didn\u2019t get it. She was in the moment, and she thought everybody had just made a big mistake in buying these things.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> And she thought that was all she was getting, and it was just too much to handle. [Laughter] Bless her heart!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; she did have\u2014there were a few other presents, over on the side, that you had\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Oh, yes, there were; but she didn\u2019t know that at the time. Bless her heart!\u2014she really thought that\u2019s all we had done.<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Oh, poor Rebecca. Putting myself in her shoes, that would have been a hard Christmas morning to come back from.<\/p>\n<p>Even though there are hard Christmas mornings\u2014we\u2019ve probably all dealt with them\u2014not every Christmas morning is that hard. In fact, there are a lot of Christmas mornings that have a lot of joy in them; but the hard ones\u2014that\u2019s extra-hard to do those nice things, like say, \u201cThank you,\u201d or write that thank-you note.<\/p>\n<p>For Barbara Rainey, one of the values in their household is writing thank-you notes. It is a trait that she instilled in her children; and she\u2019s enjoying receiving thank-you notes from her grandchildren, which means her children passed that on to them. Not long ago, Barbara talked with Dennis and Bob about the importance of being appreciated.<\/p>\n<p>[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Interview]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Parents\u2014moms and dads, but especially moms\u2014give their lives for their kids. We\u2019re just naturally sacrificial: denying ourselves, serving our kids, getting up in the middle of the night\u2014all of that stuff. And so I think there is a sense in which I wished for a little bit of appreciation. But as I thought about it, it\u2019s not just because I wanted to be thanked\u2014although that was a part of it\u2014but it was more because I wanted them to recognize that the reason I was doing everything that I was doing for them was because I loved them so much. I wasn\u2019t doing it out of duty. I did what I did for my children because I desperately loved them, and I wanted them to know that I loved them.<\/p>\n<p>Their recognizing the things that I did would have been a way for me to understand that they got it. I also wanted them to be thankful because I knew how important it was for them to have an attitude that accepted what came into their lives from the hand of God. That has to be trained in our kids.<\/p>\n<p>As we\u2019ve said earlier, being grateful is not natural to any of us, and so learning to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d\u2014to be grateful\/to express that\u2014that was a really big thing for me\u2014was to teach our kids to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d whenever they were given something, or helped, or served. There were plenty of times when our kids said, \u201cAh, thanks!\u201d [Laughter] Or they said it, and you could tell it wasn\u2019t really heartfelt; but it just doesn\u2019t matter, because it\u2019s the training that matters. Over a long time, they will eventually get it.<\/p>\n<p>One of the other things that I was insistent on with my kids is that they write thank-you notes to their grandparents at Christmas, after they got a Christmas gift; or on their birthdays after they got something for their birthday; because I wanted them, again, to learn to express gratitude and thanks to the people who gave them something.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s interesting to see now that my kids\/our kids, as adults, are training <em>their<\/em> children to write thank-you notes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I <em>love <\/em>getting these little thank-you notes from our grandkids in the mail: \u201cThank you, Mimi and Papa, for the present you sent,\u201d\u2014because I know that they [her children] caught that. They got it, even though they didn\u2019t always enjoy doing it\u2014they complained because I made them write thank you notes\u2014but now, they\u2019re doing it with their children.<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> That was Barbara Rainey, reminding us of the value of appreciation and gratitude for what we\u2019ve received. There\u2019s <em>huge <\/em>value in the \u201cThank you.\u201d Think how you feel when you spend time shopping or, even, making a gift for someone. If it\u2019s the perfect gift, you\u2019re just as excited about it as the recipient; and you kind of want to be thanked or, at least, acknowledged; right?\u2014even if it is a hairdryer.<\/p>\n<p>Hey! We\u2019re going to take a break; but when we come back, we\u2019re going to talk about giving and budgeting this Christmas. And we just might answer the question: \u201cIs there really a Santa Claus?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>[Radio Station Spot Break]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Welcome back to <em>FamilyLife This Week<\/em>. I'm Michelle Hill. This weekend, we are talking about Christmas giving and receiving. If you\u2019re like me, you want to be generous and give, give, give; but unfortunately, there\u2019s a limitation to my bank account.<\/p>\n<p>Right now, we\u2019re going to talk about a gift that you might not realize is a gift; because it doesn\u2019t come with a big, red bow on it on Christmas morning\u2014it\u2019s your financial gift at Christmas or at this yearend to ministries, to churches, and to missionaries. A while back, Dennis and Bob had a chance to sit down with Randy Alcorn and talk about the blessings that come with giving.<\/p>\n<p>Randy is an author of the best-selling book, <em>Heaven, <\/em>along with other numerous other books, including <em>The Treasure Principle<\/em>. He lives in Oregon with his wife Nancy. They have two daughters and five grandchildren. When he spoke with Bob and Dennis, Randy said that there\u2019s a significant joy that comes from being generous with what God has given us. Oh, and here comes that addiction part\u2014<\/p>\n<p>[Previous <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Interview]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> Giving is an addictive behavior; it\u2019s a very <em>positive<\/em> addiction. It\u2019s one that you just love; you take pleasure in. Talking about people\u2019s joy in giving reminds me of Ebenezer Scrooge in <em>A Christmas Carol. <\/em>At the end of <em>The Treasure Principle, <\/em>I quote from <em>A Christmas Carol, <\/em>where, after Scrooge\u2019s encounters with the three spirits on Christmas Day, here this miserly businessman is given another chance at life. Here\u2019s what it says\u2014and notice the emphasis on the <em>change<\/em>: what giving was doing to Scrooge and what perspective was doing to Scrooge\u2019s giving. It says:<\/p>\n<p>He went to church, and he walked about the streets. He watched the people hurrying to and fro. He patted children on the head. He helped beggars. He looked down into the kitchens of houses. He looked up in the windows. He found everything could yield him pleasure. He had never dreamed that any walk\/that anything could give him so much happiness as this.<\/p>\n<p>And then it ends with this statement:<\/p>\n<p>Some people laughed to see the alteration in Scrooge, but he let them laugh and little heeded them. His own heart laughed, and that was quite enough for him. And it was always said of him that he knew how to keep Christmas well if any man alive possessed the knowledge.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Randy, I want to wrap things up here by just, perhaps, reviewing some principles from your book, <em>The Treasure Principle<\/em>; but also, it seems that one of the things we err on the side of is silence when it comes to giving. We don\u2019t talk a great deal about giving, because we\u2019re afraid that somehow\u2014well, we read over in Matthew, Chapter 6, that if we talk about these things, we could lose our reward.<\/p>\n<p>Certainly, that\u2019s true; the Bible makes it clear we\u2019re not to boast, and not to do things to receive the applause of people; but, on the other hand, we really need to hear from some couples\/families that are real heroes\/courageous givers. I think you call them \u201cGiving warriors.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. Scripture says we are to \u201cstimulate one another to love and good works.\u201d We can\u2019t stimulate each other to something\/we can\u2019t be an example to each other in an area without people knowing some basic facts of what we\u2019re doing. In the same way that I would know who to go to to ask for advice on how to cultivate a prayer life, I want to know who to go to\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> \u2014to learn all we can learn about giving, and the joy of giving, and \u201cHow do you do it?\u201d and \u201cHow did you get started on this path of giving?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> In your book, <em>The Treasure Principle<\/em>, you lay out six basic principles that should govern our thinking with regard to our stuff: our money, our resources, and how we ought to use it. Can you quickly go through those for us?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> Yes; the treasure principleitself is: \u201cYou can\u2019t take it with you, but you can send it on ahead.\u201d This is where Jesus says, \u201cDon\u2019t lay up treasures on earth, but <em>do <\/em>lay up treasures in heaven,\u201d\u2014\u201cYou can\u2019t take it with you; you can send it on ahead.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The first key is that: \u201cGod owns everything; I\u2019m His money-manager.\u201d I remember: \u201cWhose assets are these? They belong, not to me; they belong to God, and I\u2019ve been entrusted with them to invest wisely for His kingdom.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The second key is: \u201cMy heart always goes where I put God\u2019s money.\u201d That\u2019s based on what Jesus says in that same context: \u201cWhere your treasure is, there your heart will be also.\u201d If I want a heart for God\u2019s kingdom, there\u2019s a way to get it; and that\u2019s to <em>give <\/em>to God\u2019s kingdom.<\/p>\n<p>The third key to the treasure principle is that: \u201cHeaven, not earth, is my home.\u201d As long as I think of earth as my home, I\u2019m going to naturally lay up my treasures here; but when I realize that heaven is my home, I\u2019m going to focus on giving, investing in eternity, and laying up treasures in heaven.<\/p>\n<p>Key number four: \u201cI should live, not for the dot, but for the line\u201d; because, you know, our life here is brief: it begins, and it ends. It\u2019s like a dot, but from that dot extends a line that goes out for all eternity; so if we\u2019re smart, we\u2019re not going to live <em>for <\/em>the dot, we\u2019re going to live for the line.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> We\u2019re going to live in light of eternity.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bob:<\/strong> And the Bible says our life is like a mist or a vapor; it vanishes quickly in light of eternity; but we have to have, as you suggest, an eternal perspective.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Randy:<\/strong> Yes, that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>Key number five: \u201cGiving is the only antidote to materialism.\u201d Materialism is really a disease. Sometimes, it\u2019s called \u201caffluenza\u201d; you know? [Laughter] And it\u2019s something that needs a cure; it needs an antidote. Giving is that antidote: it says, \u201cNo,\u201d to just the accumulation of stuff; and it says, \u201cYes,\u201d to investing in eternity.<\/p>\n<p>Then the sixth and final key to the treasure principle is that: \u201cGod prospers me, not to raise my standard of living, but to raise my standard of giving.\u201d The reason He has entrusted this stuff to me\u2014I should not assume is just so I can keep it\u2014in the same way that the FedEx guy shouldn\u2019t assume that, \u201cJust because somebody gave me these packages means I should take them home.\u201d [Laughter]<\/p>\n<p>[Studio]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> There was a part in Randy\u2019s discussion with Dennis and Bob that stuck with me: \u201cIf you want a heart for God\u2019s kingdom, you should give to God\u2019s kingdom\u201d; because, really, if you think about it, all good gifts come from the Father; so if He gives to us generously, how can we be stingy with what we give back to Him? That\u2019s kind of an uncomfortable thought; isn\u2019t it? Well, I encourage you to listen to the entire discussion by going to FamilyLifeThisWeek.com; that\u2019s FamilyLifeThisWeek.com.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, so money\u2014money, we know, is a big issue, whether you\u2019re giving it away or you are keeping it, or whether you\u2019re buying Christmas presents with it. Having it in excess and not having enough of it\u2014we\u2019ve got both sides of the issue that can get us into trouble.<\/p>\n<p>Before we get into trouble, I wanted to turn to a friend, whom I\u2019ve known for many years. I met this next guest on my first day on the job at a radio station in Alaska. He was there to help out the local station. Steve Moore is a radio veteran, just like Bob Lepine. He\u2019s co-host of the daily radio call-in program, <em>MoneyWise<\/em>. Hi, Steve!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> Hello, Michelle!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> So how does it work between you and Marsha? I know one of you has probably got to be the generous giver, and one of you is a little stingy. How does that work in your marriage at Christmastime?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> When it comes to Christmas, it has to do with my wife wanting to be more generous than I want to be. I\u2019m always the frugal guy, and she\u2019s the one who leads with her heart. It really has to do with: \u201cHow much money we\u2019re going to spend on Christmas?\u201d We tended to spend more on our children when they were younger, wanting their Christmases to be like our Christmases were, which were pretty generous on behalf of our parents; but as my children got older\u2014particularly, as they moved out of the house\u2014I found myself getting a bit tighter with the dollars.<\/p>\n<p>The bottom line is Marsha and I had to learn how to discuss money <em>before<\/em> Christmas and come to an agreement. We actually\u2014we would pray; and that alone, sometimes, could be somewhat awkward; because you\u2019re sitting down with your spouse to tell God that you\u2019re not in agreement, and asking for His help and blessing. Like it or not, that\u2019s always a little strained and a little strange, perhaps. But we would pray about it, then we would talk about it, then we would toss out a dollar figure that felt good to us.<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, almost always, my figure and Marsha\u2019s figure would be within a few dollars of each other, even though we <em>sensed<\/em> we were going to have a major disagreement. I really do believe that a husband and wife should get together: admit to one another that you have different agendas and different dollar figures in mind; ask God to intervene and help you. Most likely, you\u2019re going to find a happy medium\u2014something that may not be her best but won\u2019t be your worst\u2014and will fit into God\u2019s economy and God\u2019s plan for your family and your children.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> I also have a question\u2014as in we know, these days, that the Christmas wish lists from kids are a mile long; and parents want to give the kids <em>everything<\/em> on that list. Give us some tips on how we can avoid debt.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> I think it\u2019s probably tougher with smaller children, because it\u2019s hard to explain the realities of gift-giving to little children, who watch too much television and believe that every gift they hope for is going to be there on Christmas morning, under the tree. But it\u2019s worth discussing; obviously, it\u2019s worth discussing with small children\u2014even the real reason for Christmas and the Christmas story.<\/p>\n<p>At some point, explaining that: \u201cYou may not get everything. God blesses us with all sorts of wonderful things, particularly at the Christmas season, but not necessarily <em>everything<\/em>.\u201d Obviously, as your children get a little bit older, you can explain to them that: \u201cMom and Dad, as a family, can\u2019t afford to buy you <em>everything<\/em>; so what are the two or three things that you really would like to see Christmas morning?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Then you and your husband\/you and your wife discuss these things; pray about these things; and best of all, budget these things way in advance. Now, if it\u2019s already November or December and you haven\u2019t budgeted, then you\u2019ll have to give God an opportunity to work creatively in your lives; but going into deep debt to buy the latest thing on TV is probably not the way to go.<\/p>\n<p>More than likely, when you talk to adult children, they <em>never<\/em> remember the doo-dads and the plastic things they wanted. They remember the time spent together as a family; they remember visiting friends and relatives; they remember Christmas meals. Those are the memories, typically, that have the greatest influence on children as they become young adults, not whether or not they received the latest plastic gizmo.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Okay; so Steve, I love giving at Christmas. I love giving Christmas presents; but I have to buy, and I have a very limited budget. Help me understand how to avoid credit card debt.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> Remember, the reason parents may be struggling to pay for Christmas is because they didn\u2019t think about it in advance. If that\u2019s the case this year, you need to budget for <em>next <\/em>Christmas. Review what you spent this year, then plan ahead for <em>next<\/em> Christmas. If you spent $600 this year, start setting aside $50\/month for <em>next<\/em> Christmas. I know it may not <em>feel <\/em>good; you want to put it in the back of your mind. The only way to prepare for something 12 months further out is to start doing your homework, right now, and to start setting aside some money, right now, so that <em>next <\/em>Christmas is all that you want it to be for you and your family.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Great. Thanks, Steve; that\u2019s great advice. I\u2019ll keep that in mind as I finish up my Christmas presents, like the rest of America. Hopefully, not everybody else is buying on the 20<sup>th<\/sup> like I am.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, one last question before I let you go: \u201cIs there a Santa Claus?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know if there\u2019s really a Santa Claus. [Laughter] There is a fat guy, that lives on my block, with a beard; but I\u2019ve called the police, and they\u2019re checking him out.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> Oh!! [Laughter] Well, Steve, thanks for joining us today on <em>FamilyLife This Week. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> Alright, kiddo! My pleasure. If you ever come to Atlanta, let us know; we\u2019ll buy you lunch!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> I\u2019ll take you up on that. Thanks, Steve.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Steve:<\/strong> Alright, Michelle. God bless!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michelle:<\/strong> That was Steve Moore, giving parents some help on giving. Actually, I have a friend who has begun the tradition of the four-gift rule\u2014it is: one thing they want, one thing they need, one thing to wear, and one thing they read. Did you get that?\u2014want, need, wear, and read. We\u2019ve got that on our website. Go to FamilyLifeThisWeek.com; that\u2019s FamilyLifeThisWeek.com.<\/p>\n<p>So, Miss Universe always says that what she wants most, within that year that she\u2019s going to win, you know, the crown\u2014she says she wants \u201cworld peace.\u201d Doesn\u2019t that sound nice? I want world peace too. Well, we\u2019re going to talk about world peace\u2014okay, maybe not world peace\u2014but we\u2019re going to talk about <em>true <\/em>peace next week with Voddie Baucham. You\u2019ll want to tune in for that: <em>FamilyLife This Week.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Hey, thanks for listening! I want to thank the president of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, David Robbins, along with our station partners around the country. And a big \u201cThank you!\u201d to our engineer today, Keith Lynch, who puts up with the crazy in me graciously. Thanks to our producers, Bruce Goff, Marques Holt, and Phil Krause. They make me sound a lot better than I am. Justin Adams is our mastering engineer, and Megan Martin is our production coordinator extraordinaire.<\/p>\n<p>Our program is a production of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, and our mission is to effectively develop godly families who change the world one home at a time.<\/p>\n<p>I'm Michelle Hill, inviting you to join me again next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife This Week.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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