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Linda Weber says, when you begin to think, \u201cWill there ever be a harvest for these seeds I\u2019m planting?\u201d\u2014just stay faithful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>When my boys were growing up, and maybe they\u2019re arguing or complaining about something, I would just start singing that little song: \u201cOh, be thankful for the good things that you\u2019ve got. The good things that you\u2019ve got are for many just a dream. Oh, be thankful for the good things that you\u2019ve got.\u201d They got tired of hearing that when they were complaining. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you know what? They\u2019re adults now, and they will pop up with those words when we\u2019re together. They\u2019ll say: \u201cYeah, I remember: \u2018 Oh, be thankful for the good things that you\u2019ve got.\u2019\u201d It sticks in their mind. The things that we\u2019re able to pass to them in their earlier years\u2014they stay there, and they come back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, October 8<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll talk more with Linda Weber today about the eternal mark every mom leaves on the heart of her children. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I feel like we get a chance to talk to a matriarch today; you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and an expert.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One of these people, who has been there for years, to point the rest of us in the direction we need to be going. You felt this way as a young mom; didn\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Absolutely. I met Linda in my late 20s. We had\u2014only had two kids by then. She wrote a book back\u2014when did that come out?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Ninety-four.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It really impacted me, as a mom, because she has three sons.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014a book called <em>Mom, You\u2019re Incredible.<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The Linda we\u2019re talking about is Linda Weber, who joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Thank you very much. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Does it bother you that I called you a matriarch?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> No; no, no.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re willing to accept that mantle?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> Of course; of course.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I thought it might, Bob\u2014I was like, \u201cOkay; that might make her feel like she\u2019s older.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I would call you both patriarchs; is that bad?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> No, that\u2019s not bad.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> As long as you don\u2019t call <em>me<\/em> that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I <em>did<\/em> call you that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh. You\u2019re talking to <em>me<\/em>? [Laughter] Okay; I\u2019ll take it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Linda is married to a patriarch. She is married to somebody who has helped point us in the right direction, as men\u2014Stu Weber is her husband. They have lived together in the Pacific Northwest for years\u2014they\u2019ve been married 53 years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLinda, like you, Ann is a mother of three boys. Motherhood is something that\u2014when you sat down to think about: \u201cWhat is your life\u2019s work\/your life\u2019s passion?\u201d\u2014being a mom is really the core of it; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> It\u2019s a big part of it. I felt compelled to help other mothers be very serious about this job that we have; because it\u2019s so easy to get distracted and want to do some other things that maybe feel like you\u2019re <em>accomplishing<\/em> something out there\u2014maybe bringing some money into the family needs; have a title of some kind instead of just \u201cStu Weber\u2019s Wife,\u201d\u2014\u201cKent, Blake, and Ryan\u2019s Mother,\u201d and \u201cWho are you? What do you do?\u201d I felt like other mothers needed to know how important it was for their job, and not to jump ship early.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We mentioned the fact that you wrote a book called <em>Mom, You\u2019re Incredible<\/em>. Your new book is called <em>The Eternal Mark of a Mom<\/em>. It updates a lot of what you wrote, years ago, and adds insights from the last quarter century, and a little grandmother-ing along the way; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> Right. I just feel like we need a lot of biblical principles, we need the research that shows what\u2019s going on in our day, and we need life examples. I\u2019ve got a book full of that\u2014help for moms to give them direction\/to help them grasp the important job that they have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHistory is being made in our homes; history will repeat itself. What we have going on in our homes now is going to go on in their homes later, because they\u2019re going to be a reflection of what they\u2019ve seen. We\u2019re going to set these kids up; they\u2019re going to see life through the eyes that we\u2019ve helped form there in our homes. It\u2019s very important what we help them see.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Linda, you start out the book by saying: \u201cMom, you have a life-saving mission. If you want influence, Mom, you\u2019ve got it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019ve never forgotten that; because you\u2019ve always talked about\u2014even when I was a younger mom\u2014\u201cYou have <em>influence<\/em>.\u201d I had never really heard that before\u2014of the power I had in my home. How have you used that in your home?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> There are so many things that we say and do that send messages to our kids. I wanted my kids to <em>feel<\/em> important, and to <em>feel<\/em> accepted, and to <em>feel<\/em> secure. When they have those kinds of feelings going on, because of what I\u2019ve done and what I\u2019ve been, then they\u2019re going to show it in their behaviors. I want to pass that concept on to moms, big time: \u201cWhat you say and do creates feelings. Those feelings create behaviors.\u201d I feel like it\u2019s our mission to go after that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> As I\u2019m looking at the titles of both of your books on motherhood, I\u2019m sensing a theme, which is: \u201cMom, you\u2019re incredible. You\u2019re making an eternal mark on eternity.\u201d I could ask both you moms: \u201cDo you feel like moms need to be reminded? Do they <em>forget<\/em> that they\u2019re incredible\/that they\u2019re making a difference?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> They do forget. We all get distracted, no matter who we are. We try to put three quarts of sauce in our two-quart saucepan. [Laughter] Too many things we try to accomplish, and what we\u2019ve ended up doing\u2014we leave out some of the important things. That\u2019s not going to be it. We need to know that this nurturing process needs to be very sensitive to what\u2019s going on in our kids\u2019 hearts and spirits\u2014the things that they\u2019re facing\u2014the problems, the issues of the day, peer pressures\u2014they\u2019re <em>huge<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe need to be sensitive to what\u2019s going on. If we\u2019re always somewhere else, we won\u2019t know what\u2019s going on; we won\u2019t have the opportunity to speak to it. I feel we\u2019ve got to be tuned in. We\u2019ve got to have our antennas going, because things are going to happen if we don\u2019t step in and be helpful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Did you feel, when you were raising your boys at home, that the \u201cYou\u2019re just a mom\u201d kind of attitude was limiting and was devaluing to you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> In the beginning, I did; because I felt like, \u201cDave\u2019s out there doing all this cool stuff, and what am I doing?\u201d I worked part-time; but I was, generally, in our home most of the time; and I felt bored sometimes. It wasn\u2019t until I realized, through Scripture\/through other mentors: \u201cI am raising the next generation. I am impacting the world <em>for Christ<\/em> with these kids that I am raising.\u201d That gave me a sense and a calling of \u201cThis is important.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Linda just said it\u2014you said, \u201cHistory is being made in your home.\u201d When you said that, I thought: \u201cThat\u2019s <em>really<\/em> true. That\u2019s <em>really<\/em> profound. That\u2019s <em>really<\/em> important.\u201d I\u2019m concerned that a lot of the history that\u2019s being made is being made by Netflix, or by what\u2019s online, or by whoever the teenager is who\u2019s coming in to watch the kids because \u201cMom\u2019s busy with other things.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> It\u2019s very true. Now, in the day and age of our phones being activated constantly with checking on Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, or Instagram<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, or messages from whoever, we\u2019re busy with our phones. We\u2019re busy with our computers, which can be good; but we can\u2019t be so distracted that our kids don\u2019t even know that we\u2019re paying attention to what their needs are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019ve got to tell you\u2014in 29 years of leading our church, back in Michigan\u2014I bet we\u2019ve used your book title ten or fifteen times in thirty years. It\u2019s funny\u2014we talk in our leadership meetings\u2014like: \u201cOn Father\u2019s Day, all we do is get up there and challenge men to step up and be men,\u201d and \u201cOn Mother\u2019s Day, we celebrate moms, reminding them of how incredible they are,\u201d\u2014which is the title of your book\u2014because often it feels like they don\u2019t remember they\u2019re doing what you\u2019re saying\u2014they are making history every single second.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> That\u2019s pretty exciting; I\u2019m just happy that it\u2019s making a difference. The letters I got over the years from women, who saw things that they hadn\u2019t realized was really there, of why they were important\u2014that means a lot to me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI actually had\u2014this wasn\u2019t my goal\u2014to see medical doctors go home and raise their children, or veterinarian women go home and work with their children; but I actually had letters from women who changed their vocations because they said: \u201cYou know, my kids are needing something that I\u2019m not being available to give them. For now, I\u2019m going home; and I\u2019m going to work with my kids.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, is that where a mom should be? Is that where she belongs? Should she give up her medical profession to go home and raise her kids? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dave: <\/strong>Bob, Bob\u2014are you going to go there? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I\u2019m not saying this; I\u2019m not saying that. Every situation is totally different. Every mom has to go to her Lord and say, \u201cOkay; Lord, how would You have me use my life best?\u201d It\u2019s going to be different from place to place. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI always want to interject to moms\u2014I grew up in a single-mom home. I do know what it\u2019s like to have a mom, who has to work\/is not there all the time. Yet, my mom was so much pointing to her God\u2014that God would take care, that God knows everything that we\u2019re going through; He will be there for us. She would go down the list of what the character of God was like. That was really the focus of our home from my mom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, if you were sitting down with a young mom, having coffee, and she said: \u201cOkay, Linda, here\u2019s the situation. I have two boys. I went to school. We\u2019ve still got student loans we\u2019re paying off from my school. I\u2019ve got this job; I find satisfaction in the job. I\u2019ve got the boys at home. What would your advice be to me?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I\u2019m not going to tell that mom that she has to go home and not work. It\u2019s an individual decision; they have to decide that for themselves. They have to look at their children and what their situation is\u2014the kind of care that would come for their children. They make their own decision. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s just like how you would decide your children\u2019s education every year\u2014the kind of schools that are available. You don\u2019t just make a blanket statement: \u201cThey will all be homeschooled,\u201d \u201cThey will all go to Christian school,\u201d \u201cThey will all go to public school,\u201d\u2014no; it\u2019s different. And sometimes, it changes year by year. It\u2019s going to be different family to family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want moms to know what difference they really <em>are<\/em> making by being at home. Frankly, when moms understand this whole concept of what nurturing is all about, they see how God\u2014He likens us to the work of the Holy Spirit, which is awesome! The Holy Spirit was called as a <em>paraclete<\/em> to come alongside. He shares His divine life with us\u2014He sustains, helps, guides, comforts\u2014He\u2019s a teacher. When you start looking at all the things that the Holy Spirit does with and for us, and that we\u2019re likened to that person of the Godhead with our children: \u201cWhat are we willing to do without for our kids?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I remember sitting with a mom once, who was a working mom\/full-time working mom\u2014she had two boys at home. She said, \u201cI really do think I am better for my boys because I have this job than I would be if I didn\u2019t have the job.\u201d Her boys were middle school age; they were at school most of the day. If she was at home during the day, she wasn\u2019t going to be with them. She said, \u201cI\u2019ve been home with them, and this job helps me be more balanced and more focused when I\u2019m with them than I would have been otherwise.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think your counsel\u2014everybody\u2019s got to know their personality, their temperament, their circumstance, their situation\u2014we can\u2019t give a one-size-fits-all answer here. There are some values that a mom can focus on and say, \u201cHowever we choose to work this out, I shouldn\u2019t lose sight of these values\u201d; don\u2019t you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think that every mom, as we\u2019re saying, is very different. I went back to work part-time and started a women\u2019s ministry at our church. I think Cody was three at the time, so our youngest was three. I found that, even when I was home, I was distracted. I was on the phone; I was contemplating; I was dreaming of what we could do in this ministry. I realized I wasn\u2019t there, mentally, for our boys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI went to God\u2014I think that\u2019s a key point\u2014you go to God and you ask Him: \u201cGod, what would this look like? Can I trust You, even financially? Can we do this?\u201d I felt prompted by God\u2014not by Dave\/not anyone else\u2014that I felt like, \u201cI need to give this up for a time\u201d; so I quit. I\u2019ll <em>never<\/em> forget\u2014Cody was then five\u2014and he said, \u201cMom, <em>thank you<\/em> for being home with me.\u201d I said, \u201cWhat do you mean?\u201d He said, \u201cNow, we can play basketball all the time!\u201d\u2014which\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s Cody.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes, that would be Cody. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things I remember is reading Edith Schaeffer. She always talked about: \u201cHow do we create our homes to be a haven?\u201d\u2014because the world is a storm out there\u2014and \u201cHow do we create this environment?\u201d That has to be very purposeful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLinda, one of the things you talk about is how kids need to feel worthwhile and accepted. They need to feel important; they need to feel cared for; kids need to develop good attitudes. There\u2019s a lot in there. How did you make that happen? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I worked at being positive. Whenever there was an opportunity to make a comment about what they were doing, I would work to make it positive\u2014to say nice things about what they\u2019re doing, and how good it was, and how I appreciate them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne time, I remember the boys were\u2014I think one of the guys was junior high age\u2014and I took them out to help them learn the game of tennis. He was down on himself and just not doing well. He would toss his racket and had a bad attitude. I was worn out, trying to be a cheerleader to this kid, saying: \u201cYou\u2019ll get the next one. Let\u2019s try it again!\u201d You keep trying, so that they\u2019ll grab it. Nowadays, you look at that kid; and he\u2019s a total positive force in everything he does, which is pretty cool.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I love that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I can remember my mom\/a single mom really <em>had<\/em> to work because there was no money. She\u2019d figure out a way. I didn\u2019t appreciate it then, but I appreciate it now. She found a way to get a job that would have her home when I got home. She\u2019s home from her job by 2:30-3:00 in the afternoon. I don\u2019t remember a day I walked home\u2014she wasn\u2019t there. I don\u2019t remember a day that I said, \u201cMom, let\u2019s play catch,\u201d that she didn\u2019t put on a ball glove and go out there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI do remember when I was 12; she was my catcher\u2014and a little home plate in the backyard\u2014and I\u2019m throwing my fast ball in there. I remember she goes, \u201cOkay; we\u2019re done!\u201d [Laughter] \u201cWhat\u2019s that mean?\u201d She goes, \u201cI can\u2019t catch anymore.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI get teary, now, thinking about it. She was you, Linda\u2014she spoke life; she <em>always<\/em> believed in me, beyond what I could believe; and she instilled in me a belief that I could be something great\u2014it came from my mom!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You do wonder how many adults today would say, \u201cI had a mom, who believed in me, who spoke life into me, who was there for me, who invested in me; but I\u2019m really messed up today.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> There aren\u2019t very many.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think moms don\u2019t recognize that their child\u2019s emotional health\u2014their child\u2019s sense of security, confidence, well-being, value, importance\u2014is being molded by a mom and a dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf mom\u2019s there, and if she\u2019s engaged\u2014now, here\u2019s the thing\u2014moms are listening to this, going: \u201cI\u2019m there, but I\u2019m so <em>frustrated<\/em> with everything that\u2019s going on I can\u2019t keep up with. I\u2019m at my wit\u2019s end.\u201d You\u2019ve got a chapter in your book called, \u201cIs There a Light at the End of the Tunnel?\u201d So many moms are feeling like: \u201cI\u2019m so overwhelmed with this. I\u2019m afraid I\u2019m doing my child more damage than harm just by my frustration at the <em>mess<\/em> we\u2019re living in.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I think we keep working at giving them the positives that are going to fill their mental file drawers. To me, that\u2019s a key way to describe what needs to happen in our kids\u2019 brains\u2014is to have those mental file drawers filled with good wisdom from God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a few stories that would go along with that. One\u2014Paul McCartney, who was one of the Beatles\u2014his mother died when he was 14 years old. She had been speaking words of wisdom to him. That song that he wrote, <em>Let It Be<\/em>, and he spoke the words: \u201cMother Mary, speaking words of wisdom, \u2018Let it be; let it be,\u2019\u201d\u2014that wasn\u2019t a Catholic reference he was making.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014that was his mom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> His mother had been speaking words of wisdom; and as he got older, and he\u2019s trying to figure out: \u201cHow in the world do I do life? How do I make these decisions and these choices?\u2014because I really don\u2019t know.\u201d He\u2019s in his bed at night, and his words, \u201cMother Mary speaking words of wisdom\u2026\u201d were coming to him. We can do that, too. The words that we\u2019ve spoken over time, will come back to our kids\u2019 hearts and spirits.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Dave, you\u2019ve been involved in the NFL long enough, as a chaplain for the Detroit Lions for 30 years: \u201cWhy is it that, when the camera comes on the players, on the sidelines, they don\u2019t say, \u201cHi, Dad\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> For many of these men, there is not a dad; there\u2019s only moms. They are critically important in their life. These young men are there because of their moms.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and the sacrifice they\u2019ve made.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> They\u2019ve been given athletic ability, and some of that came from their fathers. I\u2019m not kidding\u2014sitting in Bible studies with these guys, you hear stories about their moms: \u201cMy mom was beside me,\u201d \u201cMy mom kicked my little rear end when I wanted to quit, as a little boy.\u201d She was the one who instilled the values that made these men the athletes they are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> It\u2019s fun to read the biographies of people, who will give their mothers credit for their going in a positive direction. Thomas Edison said, \u201cMy mother was the making of me.\u201d His teachers had considered him a failure\u2014that he had nothing to offer\u2014that he shouldn\u2019t ever even try. His mother said, \u201cI\u2019m bringing you home, and I\u2019m going to teach you.\u201d He went on to be a famous inventor. We can make that kind of difference by speaking words of wisdom in our kids\u2019 hearts and spirits so that they\u2019ll come back at times in their life later. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen my boys were growing up, and maybe they\u2019re arguing or complaining about something, I would just start singing that little song: \u201cOh, be thankful for the good things that you\u2019ve got. The good things that you\u2019ve got are for many just a dream. Oh, be thankful for the good things that you\u2019ve got.\u201d They got tired of hearing that when they were complaining. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you know what? They\u2019re adults now, and they will pop up with those words when we\u2019re together; and they\u2019ll say: \u201cYeah, I remember. Oh, be thankful for the good things that you\u2019ve got.\u201d It sticks in their mind. The things that we\u2019re able to pass to them in their earlier years\u2014they stay there, and they come back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Linda, did you ever lose it? Did you ever get frustrated and have to go and apologize to your boys?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I\u2019m sure there was plenty of times. One time I remember one of our boys got into our grandfather clock that we brought home from Germany. He brought it over onto the floor, and it broke into four pieces. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cOhhh!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014because he got inside of it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> He got inside it. We get this call\u2014we\u2019re at the athletic club, exercising; and I get this call: \u201cYou\u2019ve got to come home right now. It\u2019s an emergency. He\u2019s wrecked your clock.\u201d I wasn\u2019t happy, but I didn\u2019t just chide him badly. That was one of my times of not being happy with what he just did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When you got home, what kind of conversation did you have? Do you remember?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Did you sing, \u201cOh, be thankful\u201d? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think I did that one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I wouldn\u2019t. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think I sang that song then. I said, \u201cWere you not thinking ahead?\u201d That\u2019s one of my messages for moms\u2014is we\u2019ve got to help our kids think ahead. He was just a little guy. Yes, we had to pay a price; that clock was in bad shape for years before we found somebody who put it back together. Now, it\u2019s still in our home; I think of that story often.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Years ago, we were doing a <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> radio program; and we decided that we were going to call out random phone calls to moms we knew, who were in the middle of their day and say: \u201cTell us what is going on in your house right now. Tell us what your kids are doing. Tell us what the house <em>looks<\/em> like.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s fascinating.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It stuck with me all these years. We called one mom\u2014I\u2019ll never forget.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wait; how did you decide who to call?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There were some ringers. There were people we knew\u2014friends who we knew were at home. One mom we called\u2014we called Brenda. We said, \u201cBrenda, tell us about your day.\u201d She didn\u2019t know this was coming. She didn\u2019t know she was on the radio, I don\u2019t think, at first. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said: \u201cYou would call today,\u201d\u2014right? She said, \u201cFirst of all, let me describe the kitchen to you.\u201d She described it\u2014it was just a mess. The living room was covered with toys. She said, \u201cIf my husband was to come home right now and find me, with what I\u2019ve been doing\u2014I\u2019m sitting on the floor, in the living room, playing blocks with the boys in the midst of this mess\u2014he\u2019d look at me and say, \u201cYou\u2019ve been doing the exact right thing today; because at the end of the day, you\u2019ll get to the dishes; one day, the house will be clean again\u201d; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ve got a window of time to pour into the souls of your sons and your daughters and to mold\u2014well, back to what you said at the very beginning, Linda\u2014to make history in your home. That\u2019s what moms are doing. I want listeners to hear: \u201cThis is a profoundly important assignment. What you\u2019re doing is going to matter, not just for history, but for <em>eternity<\/em> in the lives of these [children].\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe moms that need to hear that probably also need to get a copy of Linda\u2019s book, <em>The Eternal Mark of a Mom:<\/em> <em>Shaping the World Through the Heart of a Child<\/em>. We\u2019ve got copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order. Again, the website is FamilyLIfeToday.com; or call to order at 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve just got to say\u2014if you have not yet, as a parent, gone through the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> video series, you need to do that. You need to get a group together\u2014small group, whatever, class at church\/whatever works for you\u2014or if it\u2019s just you and your spouse, go through the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> video series so that you can reflect on the themes that are in that series and be on the same page, as husband and wife, and on the same page as others, in your church community, about how you raise your kids. Find out more about the <em>Art of Parenting <\/em>small group series when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. You can order it from us online, or call 1-800-FLTODAY to get a copy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBy the way, if you\u2019d like a copy of the book, <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em>, we\u2019re making that available to you this week when you make a donation of any amount to help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> What we do here is made possible because of what you do in supporting this ministry. We\u2019re listener-supported. Without listeners like you\u2014stepping up to make this daily radio program, our website, our resources, our events\u2014you make it all possible for others when you make a donation in support of <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, if you can make a donation today, we\u2019ll send you a copy of Dennis and Barbara Rainey\u2019s book, <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em>. It\u2019s our gift to you as a \u201cThank you,\u201d for your support. Go online at FamilyLifeToday.com to donate; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY, and you can make your donation over the phone. We appreciate your partnership with us\u2014look forward to hearing from you; and look forward to sending you a copy of the book,<em> The Art of Parenting<\/em>, as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you can join us back tomorrow when Linda Weber will be here again to talk about how a mom leaves an eternal mark in the hearts and lives of her children. 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They\u2019re adults now, and they will pop up with those words when we\u2019re together. They\u2019ll say: \u201cYeah, I remember: \u2018 Oh, be thankful for the good things that you\u2019ve got.\u2019\u201d It sticks in their mind. The things that we\u2019re able to pass to them in their earlier years\u2014they stay there, and they come back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, October 8<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll talk more with Linda Weber today about the eternal mark every mom leaves on the heart of her children. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I feel like we get a chance to talk to a matriarch today; you know?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and an expert.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One of these people, who has been there for years, to point the rest of us in the direction we need to be going. You felt this way as a young mom; didn\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Absolutely. I met Linda in my late 20s. We had\u2014only had two kids by then. 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Welcome.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda: <\/strong>Thank you very much. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Does it bother you that I called you a matriarch?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> No; no, no.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re willing to accept that mantle?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> Of course; of course.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I thought it might, Bob\u2014I was like, \u201cOkay; that might make her feel like she\u2019s older.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I would call you both patriarchs; is that bad?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> No, that\u2019s not bad.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> As long as you don\u2019t call <em>me<\/em> that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I <em>did<\/em> call you that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh. You\u2019re talking to <em>me<\/em>? [Laughter] Okay; I\u2019ll take it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Linda is married to a patriarch. She is married to somebody who has helped point us in the right direction, as men\u2014Stu Weber is her husband. They have lived together in the Pacific Northwest for years\u2014they\u2019ve been married 53 years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLinda, like you, Ann is a mother of three boys. Motherhood is something that\u2014when you sat down to think about: \u201cWhat is your life\u2019s work\/your life\u2019s passion?\u201d\u2014being a mom is really the core of it; isn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> It\u2019s a big part of it. 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I just feel like we need a lot of biblical principles, we need the research that shows what\u2019s going on in our day, and we need life examples. I\u2019ve got a book full of that\u2014help for moms to give them direction\/to help them grasp the important job that they have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHistory is being made in our homes; history will repeat itself. What we have going on in our homes now is going to go on in their homes later, because they\u2019re going to be a reflection of what they\u2019ve seen. We\u2019re going to set these kids up; they\u2019re going to see life through the eyes that we\u2019ve helped form there in our homes. It\u2019s very important what we help them see.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Linda, you start out the book by saying: \u201cMom, you have a life-saving mission. If you want influence, Mom, you\u2019ve got it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019ve never forgotten that; because you\u2019ve always talked about\u2014even when I was a younger mom\u2014\u201cYou have <em>influence<\/em>.\u201d I had never really heard that before\u2014of the power I had in my home. How have you used that in your home?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> There are so many things that we say and do that send messages to our kids. I wanted my kids to <em>feel<\/em> important, and to <em>feel<\/em> accepted, and to <em>feel<\/em> secure. When they have those kinds of feelings going on, because of what I\u2019ve done and what I\u2019ve been, then they\u2019re going to show it in their behaviors. I want to pass that concept on to moms, big time: \u201cWhat you say and do creates feelings. Those feelings create behaviors.\u201d I feel like it\u2019s our mission to go after that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> As I\u2019m looking at the titles of both of your books on motherhood, I\u2019m sensing a theme, which is: \u201cMom, you\u2019re incredible. You\u2019re making an eternal mark on eternity.\u201d I could ask both you moms: \u201cDo you feel like moms need to be reminded? Do they <em>forget<\/em> that they\u2019re incredible\/that they\u2019re making a difference?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> They do forget. We all get distracted, no matter who we are. We try to put three quarts of sauce in our two-quart saucepan. [Laughter] Too many things we try to accomplish, and what we\u2019ve ended up doing\u2014we leave out some of the important things. That\u2019s not going to be it. We need to know that this nurturing process needs to be very sensitive to what\u2019s going on in our kids\u2019 hearts and spirits\u2014the things that they\u2019re facing\u2014the problems, the issues of the day, peer pressures\u2014they\u2019re <em>huge<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe need to be sensitive to what\u2019s going on. If we\u2019re always somewhere else, we won\u2019t know what\u2019s going on; we won\u2019t have the opportunity to speak to it. I feel we\u2019ve got to be tuned in. We\u2019ve got to have our antennas going, because things are going to happen if we don\u2019t step in and be helpful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Did you feel, when you were raising your boys at home, that the \u201cYou\u2019re just a mom\u201d kind of attitude was limiting and was devaluing to you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> In the beginning, I did; because I felt like, \u201cDave\u2019s out there doing all this cool stuff, and what am I doing?\u201d I worked part-time; but I was, generally, in our home most of the time; and I felt bored sometimes. It wasn\u2019t until I realized, through Scripture\/through other mentors: \u201cI am raising the next generation. I am impacting the world <em>for Christ<\/em> with these kids that I am raising.\u201d That gave me a sense and a calling of \u201cThis is important.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Linda just said it\u2014you said, \u201cHistory is being made in your home.\u201d When you said that, I thought: \u201cThat\u2019s <em>really<\/em> true. That\u2019s <em>really<\/em> profound. That\u2019s <em>really<\/em> important.\u201d I\u2019m concerned that a lot of the history that\u2019s being made is being made by Netflix, or by what\u2019s online, or by whoever the teenager is who\u2019s coming in to watch the kids because \u201cMom\u2019s busy with other things.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> It\u2019s very true. Now, in the day and age of our phones being activated constantly with checking on Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, or Instagram<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, or messages from whoever, we\u2019re busy with our phones. We\u2019re busy with our computers, which can be good; but we can\u2019t be so distracted that our kids don\u2019t even know that we\u2019re paying attention to what their needs are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I\u2019ve got to tell you\u2014in 29 years of leading our church, back in Michigan\u2014I bet we\u2019ve used your book title ten or fifteen times in thirty years. It\u2019s funny\u2014we talk in our leadership meetings\u2014like: \u201cOn Father\u2019s Day, all we do is get up there and challenge men to step up and be men,\u201d and \u201cOn Mother\u2019s Day, we celebrate moms, reminding them of how incredible they are,\u201d\u2014which is the title of your book\u2014because often it feels like they don\u2019t remember they\u2019re doing what you\u2019re saying\u2014they are making history every single second.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> That\u2019s pretty exciting; I\u2019m just happy that it\u2019s making a difference. The letters I got over the years from women, who saw things that they hadn\u2019t realized was really there, of why they were important\u2014that means a lot to me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI actually had\u2014this wasn\u2019t my goal\u2014to see medical doctors go home and raise their children, or veterinarian women go home and work with their children; but I actually had letters from women who changed their vocations because they said: \u201cYou know, my kids are needing something that I\u2019m not being available to give them. For now, I\u2019m going home; and I\u2019m going to work with my kids.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, is that where a mom should be? Is that where she belongs? Should she give up her medical profession to go home and raise her kids? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dave: <\/strong>Bob, Bob\u2014are you going to go there? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I\u2019m not saying this; I\u2019m not saying that. Every situation is totally different. Every mom has to go to her Lord and say, \u201cOkay; Lord, how would You have me use my life best?\u201d It\u2019s going to be different from place to place. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI always want to interject to moms\u2014I grew up in a single-mom home. I do know what it\u2019s like to have a mom, who has to work\/is not there all the time. Yet, my mom was so much pointing to her God\u2014that God would take care, that God knows everything that we\u2019re going through; He will be there for us. She would go down the list of what the character of God was like. That was really the focus of our home from my mom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, if you were sitting down with a young mom, having coffee, and she said: \u201cOkay, Linda, here\u2019s the situation. I have two boys. I went to school. We\u2019ve still got student loans we\u2019re paying off from my school. I\u2019ve got this job; I find satisfaction in the job. I\u2019ve got the boys at home. What would your advice be to me?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I\u2019m not going to tell that mom that she has to go home and not work. It\u2019s an individual decision; they have to decide that for themselves. They have to look at their children and what their situation is\u2014the kind of care that would come for their children. They make their own decision. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s just like how you would decide your children\u2019s education every year\u2014the kind of schools that are available. You don\u2019t just make a blanket statement: \u201cThey will all be homeschooled,\u201d \u201cThey will all go to Christian school,\u201d \u201cThey will all go to public school,\u201d\u2014no; it\u2019s different. And sometimes, it changes year by year. It\u2019s going to be different family to family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI just want moms to know what difference they really <em>are<\/em> making by being at home. Frankly, when moms understand this whole concept of what nurturing is all about, they see how God\u2014He likens us to the work of the Holy Spirit, which is awesome! The Holy Spirit was called as a <em>paraclete<\/em> to come alongside. He shares His divine life with us\u2014He sustains, helps, guides, comforts\u2014He\u2019s a teacher. When you start looking at all the things that the Holy Spirit does with and for us, and that we\u2019re likened to that person of the Godhead with our children: \u201cWhat are we willing to do without for our kids?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I remember sitting with a mom once, who was a working mom\/full-time working mom\u2014she had two boys at home. She said, \u201cI really do think I am better for my boys because I have this job than I would be if I didn\u2019t have the job.\u201d Her boys were middle school age; they were at school most of the day. If she was at home during the day, she wasn\u2019t going to be with them. She said, \u201cI\u2019ve been home with them, and this job helps me be more balanced and more focused when I\u2019m with them than I would have been otherwise.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think your counsel\u2014everybody\u2019s got to know their personality, their temperament, their circumstance, their situation\u2014we can\u2019t give a one-size-fits-all answer here. There are some values that a mom can focus on and say, \u201cHowever we choose to work this out, I shouldn\u2019t lose sight of these values\u201d; don\u2019t you think?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I think that every mom, as we\u2019re saying, is very different. I went back to work part-time and started a women\u2019s ministry at our church. I think Cody was three at the time, so our youngest was three. I found that, even when I was home, I was distracted. I was on the phone; I was contemplating; I was dreaming of what we could do in this ministry. I realized I wasn\u2019t there, mentally, for our boys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI went to God\u2014I think that\u2019s a key point\u2014you go to God and you ask Him: \u201cGod, what would this look like? Can I trust You, even financially? Can we do this?\u201d I felt prompted by God\u2014not by Dave\/not anyone else\u2014that I felt like, \u201cI need to give this up for a time\u201d; so I quit. I\u2019ll <em>never<\/em> forget\u2014Cody was then five\u2014and he said, \u201cMom, <em>thank you<\/em> for being home with me.\u201d I said, \u201cWhat do you mean?\u201d He said, \u201cNow, we can play basketball all the time!\u201d\u2014which\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> That\u2019s Cody.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes, that would be Cody. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things I remember is reading Edith Schaeffer. She always talked about: \u201cHow do we create our homes to be a haven?\u201d\u2014because the world is a storm out there\u2014and \u201cHow do we create this environment?\u201d That has to be very purposeful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLinda, one of the things you talk about is how kids need to feel worthwhile and accepted. They need to feel important; they need to feel cared for; kids need to develop good attitudes. There\u2019s a lot in there. How did you make that happen? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I worked at being positive. Whenever there was an opportunity to make a comment about what they were doing, I would work to make it positive\u2014to say nice things about what they\u2019re doing, and how good it was, and how I appreciate them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne time, I remember the boys were\u2014I think one of the guys was junior high age\u2014and I took them out to help them learn the game of tennis. He was down on himself and just not doing well. He would toss his racket and had a bad attitude. I was worn out, trying to be a cheerleader to this kid, saying: \u201cYou\u2019ll get the next one. Let\u2019s try it again!\u201d You keep trying, so that they\u2019ll grab it. Nowadays, you look at that kid; and he\u2019s a total positive force in everything he does, which is pretty cool.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I love that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I can remember my mom\/a single mom really <em>had<\/em> to work because there was no money. She\u2019d figure out a way. I didn\u2019t appreciate it then, but I appreciate it now. She found a way to get a job that would have her home when I got home. She\u2019s home from her job by 2:30-3:00 in the afternoon. I don\u2019t remember a day I walked home\u2014she wasn\u2019t there. I don\u2019t remember a day that I said, \u201cMom, let\u2019s play catch,\u201d that she didn\u2019t put on a ball glove and go out there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI do remember when I was 12; she was my catcher\u2014and a little home plate in the backyard\u2014and I\u2019m throwing my fast ball in there. I remember she goes, \u201cOkay; we\u2019re done!\u201d [Laughter] \u201cWhat\u2019s that mean?\u201d She goes, \u201cI can\u2019t catch anymore.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI get teary, now, thinking about it. She was you, Linda\u2014she spoke life; she <em>always<\/em> believed in me, beyond what I could believe; and she instilled in me a belief that I could be something great\u2014it came from my mom!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You do wonder how many adults today would say, \u201cI had a mom, who believed in me, who spoke life into me, who was there for me, who invested in me; but I\u2019m really messed up today.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> There aren\u2019t very many.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think moms don\u2019t recognize that their child\u2019s emotional health\u2014their child\u2019s sense of security, confidence, well-being, value, importance\u2014is being molded by a mom and a dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf mom\u2019s there, and if she\u2019s engaged\u2014now, here\u2019s the thing\u2014moms are listening to this, going: \u201cI\u2019m there, but I\u2019m so <em>frustrated<\/em> with everything that\u2019s going on I can\u2019t keep up with. I\u2019m at my wit\u2019s end.\u201d You\u2019ve got a chapter in your book called, \u201cIs There a Light at the End of the Tunnel?\u201d So many moms are feeling like: \u201cI\u2019m so overwhelmed with this. I\u2019m afraid I\u2019m doing my child more damage than harm just by my frustration at the <em>mess<\/em> we\u2019re living in.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I think we keep working at giving them the positives that are going to fill their mental file drawers. To me, that\u2019s a key way to describe what needs to happen in our kids\u2019 brains\u2014is to have those mental file drawers filled with good wisdom from God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a few stories that would go along with that. One\u2014Paul McCartney, who was one of the Beatles\u2014his mother died when he was 14 years old. She had been speaking words of wisdom to him. That song that he wrote, <em>Let It Be<\/em>, and he spoke the words: \u201cMother Mary, speaking words of wisdom, \u2018Let it be; let it be,\u2019\u201d\u2014that wasn\u2019t a Catholic reference he was making.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014that was his mom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> His mother had been speaking words of wisdom; and as he got older, and he\u2019s trying to figure out: \u201cHow in the world do I do life? How do I make these decisions and these choices?\u2014because I really don\u2019t know.\u201d He\u2019s in his bed at night, and his words, \u201cMother Mary speaking words of wisdom\u2026\u201d were coming to him. We can do that, too. The words that we\u2019ve spoken over time, will come back to our kids\u2019 hearts and spirits.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Dave, you\u2019ve been involved in the NFL long enough, as a chaplain for the Detroit Lions for 30 years: \u201cWhy is it that, when the camera comes on the players, on the sidelines, they don\u2019t say, \u201cHi, Dad\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> For many of these men, there is not a dad; there\u2019s only moms. They are critically important in their life. These young men are there because of their moms.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014and the sacrifice they\u2019ve made.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> They\u2019ve been given athletic ability, and some of that came from their fathers. I\u2019m not kidding\u2014sitting in Bible studies with these guys, you hear stories about their moms: \u201cMy mom was beside me,\u201d \u201cMy mom kicked my little rear end when I wanted to quit, as a little boy.\u201d She was the one who instilled the values that made these men the athletes they are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> It\u2019s fun to read the biographies of people, who will give their mothers credit for their going in a positive direction. Thomas Edison said, \u201cMy mother was the making of me.\u201d His teachers had considered him a failure\u2014that he had nothing to offer\u2014that he shouldn\u2019t ever even try. His mother said, \u201cI\u2019m bringing you home, and I\u2019m going to teach you.\u201d He went on to be a famous inventor. We can make that kind of difference by speaking words of wisdom in our kids\u2019 hearts and spirits so that they\u2019ll come back at times in their life later. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen my boys were growing up, and maybe they\u2019re arguing or complaining about something, I would just start singing that little song: \u201cOh, be thankful for the good things that you\u2019ve got. The good things that you\u2019ve got are for many just a dream. Oh, be thankful for the good things that you\u2019ve got.\u201d They got tired of hearing that when they were complaining. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you know what? They\u2019re adults now, and they will pop up with those words when we\u2019re together; and they\u2019ll say: \u201cYeah, I remember. Oh, be thankful for the good things that you\u2019ve got.\u201d It sticks in their mind. The things that we\u2019re able to pass to them in their earlier years\u2014they stay there, and they come back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Linda, did you ever lose it? Did you ever get frustrated and have to go and apologize to your boys?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I\u2019m sure there was plenty of times. One time I remember one of our boys got into our grandfather clock that we brought home from Germany. He brought it over onto the floor, and it broke into four pieces. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cOhhh!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014because he got inside of it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> He got inside it. We get this call\u2014we\u2019re at the athletic club, exercising; and I get this call: \u201cYou\u2019ve got to come home right now. It\u2019s an emergency. He\u2019s wrecked your clock.\u201d I wasn\u2019t happy, but I didn\u2019t just chide him badly. That was one of my times of not being happy with what he just did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When you got home, what kind of conversation did you have? Do you remember?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Did you sing, \u201cOh, be thankful\u201d? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think I did that one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I wouldn\u2019t. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Linda:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think I sang that song then. I said, \u201cWere you not thinking ahead?\u201d That\u2019s one of my messages for moms\u2014is we\u2019ve got to help our kids think ahead. He was just a little guy. Yes, we had to pay a price; that clock was in bad shape for years before we found somebody who put it back together. Now, it\u2019s still in our home; I think of that story often.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Years ago, we were doing a <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> radio program; and we decided that we were going to call out random phone calls to moms we knew, who were in the middle of their day and say: \u201cTell us what is going on in your house right now. Tell us what your kids are doing. Tell us what the house <em>looks<\/em> like.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s fascinating.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It stuck with me all these years. We called one mom\u2014I\u2019ll never forget.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wait; how did you decide who to call?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There were some ringers. There were people we knew\u2014friends who we knew were at home. One mom we called\u2014we called Brenda. We said, \u201cBrenda, tell us about your day.\u201d She didn\u2019t know this was coming. She didn\u2019t know she was on the radio, I don\u2019t think, at first. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said: \u201cYou would call today,\u201d\u2014right? She said, \u201cFirst of all, let me describe the kitchen to you.\u201d She described it\u2014it was just a mess. The living room was covered with toys. She said, \u201cIf my husband was to come home right now and find me, with what I\u2019ve been doing\u2014I\u2019m sitting on the floor, in the living room, playing blocks with the boys in the midst of this mess\u2014he\u2019d look at me and say, \u201cYou\u2019ve been doing the exact right thing today; because at the end of the day, you\u2019ll get to the dishes; one day, the house will be clean again\u201d; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ve got a window of time to pour into the souls of your sons and your daughters and to mold\u2014well, back to what you said at the very beginning, Linda\u2014to make history in your home. That\u2019s what moms are doing. I want listeners to hear: \u201cThis is a profoundly important assignment. What you\u2019re doing is going to matter, not just for history, but for <em>eternity<\/em> in the lives of these [children].\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe moms that need to hear that probably also need to get a copy of Linda\u2019s book, <em>The Eternal Mark of a Mom:<\/em> <em>Shaping the World Through the Heart of a Child<\/em>. We\u2019ve got copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order. Again, the website is FamilyLIfeToday.com; or call to order at 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve just got to say\u2014if you have not yet, as a parent, gone through the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> video series, you need to do that. You need to get a group together\u2014small group, whatever, class at church\/whatever works for you\u2014or if it\u2019s just you and your spouse, go through the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em> video series so that you can reflect on the themes that are in that series and be on the same page, as husband and wife, and on the same page as others, in your church community, about how you raise your kids. Find out more about the <em>Art of Parenting <\/em>small group series when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. You can order it from us online, or call 1-800-FLTODAY to get a copy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBy the way, if you\u2019d like a copy of the book, <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em>, we\u2019re making that available to you this week when you make a donation of any amount to help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> What we do here is made possible because of what you do in supporting this ministry. We\u2019re listener-supported. Without listeners like you\u2014stepping up to make this daily radio program, our website, our resources, our events\u2014you make it all possible for others when you make a donation in support of <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, if you can make a donation today, we\u2019ll send you a copy of Dennis and Barbara Rainey\u2019s book, <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em>. It\u2019s our gift to you as a \u201cThank you,\u201d for your support. Go online at FamilyLifeToday.com to donate; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY, and you can make your donation over the phone. We appreciate your partnership with us\u2014look forward to hearing from you; and look forward to sending you a copy of the book,<em> The Art of Parenting<\/em>, as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe hope you can join us back tomorrow when Linda Weber will be here again to talk about how a mom leaves an eternal mark in the hearts and lives of her children. I hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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