{"id":305311,"date":"2019-08-29T06:00:04","date_gmt":"2019-08-29T10:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/teaching-your-kids-to-pray\/"},"modified":"2024-10-08T00:16:55","modified_gmt":"2024-10-08T04:16:55","slug":"teaching-your-kids-to-pray","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/teaching-your-kids-to-pray\/","title":{"rendered":"Teaching Your Kids to Pray"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nancy Guthrie wants to see children grounded in the Scriptures and practicing real prayer. This requires that children understand who God is. 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Nancy Guthrie wonders, \u201cWhat kinds of prayers have they heard you pray?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Have your kids ever heard you confess a specific sin? If we want our kids to have a relationship with God that <em>includes<\/em> the <em>joy<\/em> that comes from experiencing forgiveness, followed by confessing a specific sin to God, maybe they need to hear us confess a specific sin to God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, August 29<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. When we teach our children about prayer, in addition to instruction, they need to see us modeling what prayer looks like. We\u2019ll talk more about that with Nancy Guthrie today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We\u2019re going to talk about prayer, and we\u2019re going to talk about two things about prayer. We\u2019re going to talk about parents praying for their kids and about parents teaching their kids how to pray. Which of those do you want to talk about first?\u2014which is the bigger issue, do you think, for most parents?\u2014teaching their kids how to pray or praying for their kids?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I think they go, hand in hand.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>That\u2019s a big one, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I don\u2019t think you can teach your kids how to pray unless you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Oh, you\u2019re side-stepping the issue. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Oooohhh!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Yes, yes; she\u2019s good at that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I think you\u2019re right. No; I will grant you\u2014I think you\u2019re right that they do go, hand in hand. What\u2019s the bigger felt-need for parents?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>How to teach your kids\u2014that\u2019s what I think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>How to teach your kids how to pray.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>I was going to say the opposite! I was going to say, \u201cWe worry and we\u2019re so stressed about our kids, we forget we <em>can<\/em> pray.\u201d I\u2019m telling you what\u2014I\u2019m right, Bob; I\u2019m right on this one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>We\u2019re no help to you!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay; here\u2019s what we\u2019ll do\u2014we\u2019ll throw it to our guest\u2014let her decide where we should start with this. Nancy Guthrie joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Nancy, welcome back!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Oh my goodness; I\u2019m so thrilled to get to be with you guys today and with your listeners.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s been a while since you\u2019ve been on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. How long a while has it been?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s 2019. Let\u2019s see\u2014maybe I was here in 2002 or 2003? So that\u2019s a while.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s been a while!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>You\u2019re making me age myself, Bob! I don\u2019t really appreciate that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But in fact\u2014I shared this with you\u2014I saw, recently, a tweet from you. It was a picture of you, 20 years ago, with your daughter, Hope, 20 years ago; because you just went past the milestone of 20 years since Hope went to heaven.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When you were here before, we talked about Hope and Gabe and about the challenge you and your husband faced with two kids who did not live long.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I just didn\u2019t want to let this pass without you knowing that we still think about you guys and still think about Hope and still think about Gabe.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>That\u2019s kind of you. You know, I guess I would just say, as we\u2019re going to talk about prayer today, I think those experiences, 20 years ago, when I gave birth to a daughter and found out that she was going to live less than six months\u2014and I began to ask myself, \u201cHow do you pray for a child who\u2019s going to die?\u201d\u2014maybe that was beginning\/ground floor of trying to figure out, \u201cWhat does it look like to be a parent, who prays, in this world, where God is sovereign and we would like to be?\u201d Maybe, that was actually a good place to start.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>That\u2019s inspiring, in and of itself, because many people would have a hard time even beginning to pray at that point of their journey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I did too!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Honestly; yes. I remember feeling really guilty at times that so many people would say, \u201cWe\u2019re praying for you!\u201d I remember telling some of them, \u201cWell, that\u2019s really good; because we\u2019re not praying that much.\u201d I mean, I think, initially, we did, but then there were just so many questions; and honestly, just hardly knowing where to begin praying. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was really grateful to know that people were praying for us. I was grateful to know that the Holy Spirit prays for us when we don\u2019t have the words\/when we don\u2019t know what to pray. He prays for us with this groaning, so that was really good news to me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>In our online archive, at FamilyLifeToday.com, if listeners want to listen back to that conversation from 15-plus years ago\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>My copy is on cassettes, so that says something to you about how long it was! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, we have an updated copy for you; we can give you the MP3 files now. You can go and download these conversations, at FamilyLifeToday.com, with Nancy Guthrie and hear about those days with Hope and with Gabe.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou have, since, written on prayer. You\u2019ve written a one-year Bible devotional for parents to pray for their kids and, then, wrote a book for kids on learning how to pray. Where do we start? Do we start with parents praying for their kids, or do we start with teaching our kids how to pray?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Well, let\u2019s start younger and go older; okay?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I think we should start with what every child should know about prayer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I think all of us, who have children\/grandchildren, we <em>want<\/em> our kids to know how to pray; we want them to pray. If you think about it, you know, what is the way we typically teach our children to pray? I mean, most kids, when they pray, I think one thing dominates their prayers: thank-yous\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>\u2014and telling God what we want. Those are good things; I mean, those are a <em>big<\/em> part of prayer. Aren\u2019t we <em>so<\/em> glad that we have a God, who\u2019s so worthy of thanks, to thank Him?\u2014and that He is our loving Father, that we can approach Him and tell Him what we need?<br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that\u2019s a pretty limited vocabulary for prayer. That\u2019s one reason I put together this book, <em>What Every Child Should Know About Prayer<\/em>; because I want to <em>expand<\/em> children\u2019s vocabulary, children\u2019s <em>focus<\/em>, children\u2019s <em>expectations<\/em>, and children\u2019s <em>experience<\/em> of prayer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Don\u2019t you think most kids have that limited vocabulary because all they\u2019ve ever heard is Mom and Dad?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Well, I think you\u2019re stealing my points! [Laughter] Yes; exactly. I mean, if you think about it, when do they hear us pray?\u2014usually before a meal. I mean, I would imagine, in a lot of homes, that\u2019s the <em>only<\/em> time\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right; maybe bedtime.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>\u2014maybe bedtime\u2014right?\u2014that they hear their parents pray.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>And it might not even be an authentic prayer. It might be a read or a memorized\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>\u2014by rote prayer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I mean, I can think of a lot of my experiences in my family that\u2014I mean, I know exactly what\u2019s coming; because it\u2019s what\u2019s <em>always<\/em> said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When that\u2019s what you\u2019re modeling in prayer, what are you teaching kids about prayer?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Well, I think it takes away from a genuine conversation with a <em>real<\/em> Person, who is God <em>Himself<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>So yes; as parents, we want to model a <em>genuine<\/em> conversation about things that matter. You know, one thing I write in the book: \u201cWhat do we talk to God about?\u201d We talk to Him\/God about the things that matter to us and the things that matter to <em>Him<\/em>. That means that we have to be people, who are in God\u2019s Word. We have to be in Scripture, too; because that\u2019s going to inform how we pray. That\u2019s a genuine conversation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, I come here and I meet you guys; and we\u2019re talking. What are we talking about? We talk about the things that matter to us and talk about the things that matter to you, because that\u2019s <em>relationship<\/em>; that\u2019s a genuine conversation. That\u2019s what we want prayer to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I\u2019m going to read one of them: \u201cGod Hears Us When We Pray\u201d; and then it says, \u201cGod can hear us when we say our prayers out loud or when we talk to Him from our hearts. If we say them out loud or whisper them, it might help us keep our minds on what we want to say to Him. God has promised to hear the prayers of all people who belong to Him,\u201d and then you have Psalm 116:1: \u201cI love the Lord because He hears my voice and my prayer for mercy.\u201d Then there\u2019s a prayer I can pray: \u201cI love You, Lord, because You listen to my prayers.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat, alone, for kids to understand: God hears us; He <em>listens<\/em> to us; and then Scripture to go along with that. I <em>love<\/em> pouring this truth of gold into kids\u2019 hearts, and they\u2019ll want to read it; it\u2019s so good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is 141 pages, so this is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Yes; it\u2019s not a short little book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is not a bedtime story, although you can take two pages\u2014basically, every two pages is a new thought; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Yes; I know a lot of people who say they take either a section a night\u2014depending on how old the child is\u2014or just one page, and talk about it. I\u2019ve tried to make the pages create the opportunity for interaction\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>\u2014conversation; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>\u2014between adult and child, who\u2019s reading it, so that it can lead to <em>actual<\/em> prayer, as you mentioned, there. It says, \u201cI can pray\u201d; so trying to give them some words to pray. Or sometimes, it\u2019s a question you could ask and discuss with a child. So it becomes\u2014yes; not just reading a story\u2014but conversation about this important thing called prayer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Here\u2019s what\u2019s really amazing about this. As I look at each couple of pages, it\u2019s stuff adults need to learn. This isn\u2019t just five-year-olds; this is\u2014I would love people in my congregation to know that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I think that was part of the idea.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>It\u2019s her secret plan. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s certainly what I have heard, over and over again, which, I have to say, does thrill me\u2014you know, that I hear from adults, who are reading\u2014maybe they got it for their kids\u2014but they\u2019re like, \u201cI\u2019m <em>learning<\/em> some things as I read this,\u201d and that makes me really happy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Are you a natural pray-er?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I think my\u2014one of my most common prayers is, \u201cLord, forgive me for my prayerlessness!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Oh, wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Because yes; it\u2019s a lot easier to <em>talk<\/em> about prayer than to pray.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I think, actually, I\u2019m <em>becoming<\/em> better at prayer; but I think it is a <em>lifetime<\/em> pursuit. I want prayer to be more a part of my waking up rather than scrolling through my phone. I want prayer to be more a part of through my day, not just at mealtime. I want prayer to be the way I end the day\u2014not with Netflix and not with so many other things it can be filled with\u2014but with talking to that Person that I would say to you is my most important relationship.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>It\u2019s interesting\u2014you say that; and yet, you wrote this book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>What prompted you to want to write this about prayer?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Well, I think because I do see this need, with kids, to really be grounded in prayer that\u2019s real and not prayer that\u2019s rote. And I really wanted to use the opportunity to really mine through the <em>Bible<\/em> about what it says about prayer and not focus solely on the experience. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you see in there, I have a section on the Psalms. I mean, the Psalms are an incredible resource when it comes to prayer! These are divinely-given words that\u2014it\u2019s such a unique book in the Bible, because they\u2019re divinely-given words for us to sing or pray back to Him\/back to God. That\u2019s amazing!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a section on how the Psalms help us to pray and shape how we pray; a section on various people in the Bible and what they prayed for\u2014I think that\u2019s really significant for kids. You have Solomon, who prayed for wisdom; you have David, who prayed that God would make his heart clean after he sinned. I think maybe the most poignant to me is Paul. When Paul prays, he begs God three times to take this pain away of this thorn. There, I think, we learn a <em>very<\/em> important lesson for us to talk to kids about God; and that is, that sometimes God\u2019s answer to our prayer to take our pain away is that He says: \u201cMy grace is sufficient. My strength is made perfect in weakness.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I had a man in our church come to us and say, \u201cI would like to buy a copy of this book for every family in our church and give it as a gift.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>May his tribe increase! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, I think it was his burden to see, not just kids learn the basics of prayer, but moms and dads find a way to incorporate this and to make it be a more vibrant part of what the family\u2019s structure is. You know, your confession\u2014let\u2019s just be honest\u2014we can ask around the table.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>No, let\u2019s not; let\u2019s not!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We can go out to most Christian gatherings and we could say, \u201cHow many of you would say, \u2018In my spiritual life, the area where I\u2014I may be struggling in all kinds of areas\u2014but the area where I have it most together\u2014my prayer life\u2014I\u2019m doing really well in that\u2019?\u201d You ask that question\u2014I guarantee you\u2014you may have two hands go up from people who, for whatever reason, are gifted\/burdened; it\u2019s just a part of the makeup of who they are in prayer. They\u2019re prayer warriors, as we like to say.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think most of us would just say, \u201cMy prayer life is not what it ought to be\/what I\u2019d like for it to be.\u201d It\u2019s the discipline; it\u2019s\u2014Mary Ann and I were having this conversation recently. I just said, \u201cThis is something that I do by faith.\u201d She said, \u201cWell, what do you mean you do it by faith?\u201d I said: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPrayer is <em>always<\/em> an exercise of faith, because you can\u2019t see who you\u2019re talking to; He doesn\u2019t talk back, audibly, to you. You are praying, believing Somebody\u2019s there; Somebody\u2019s listening; Somebody cares; this really matters and this is not just an exercise in some kind of futility [rational reasoning]: \u201cBecause God is sovereign and going to do whatever He\u2019s going to do anyway, so why bother to pray?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can come up with all of the reasons why prayer does not make <em>rational<\/em> sense, but the Bible tells us this is what God wants from us; so I have to, by faith, say: \u201cI\u2019m going to respond in faith and do what God\u2019s called me to do,\u201d and \u201cI\u2019m going to teach my kids the same thing.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Can I go back to this?\u2014what I was talking about earlier, when I said that mostly our kids know how to <em>thank<\/em> God for things and <em>ask<\/em> God for things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I think that can be our tendency too. I know that one thing I feel like helps me in regard to prayer\u2014and I think the Bible teaches so clearly, regarding prayer\u2014has to do with some of the other elements that should be in our prayer. I think one of the ones that\u2019s missing <em>so often<\/em> is beginning with praise. Thanksgiving for what He\u2019s done seems to come a lot more <em>natural<\/em> to us than praising Him for who He is\u2014just being willing to land and marinate on His character and who He is\u2014and allow that to then just flow up in prayers of praise.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut we discover, when we do that, that\u2019s such a great foundation to then begin to talk to Him; because we\u2019re so clear on who it is we\u2019re talking to!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>I was wondering if you\u2019ve found that the reason\u2014because I agree; I\u2019ve seen the same thing, even in my own life\u2014but I wonder if people don\u2019t <em>know<\/em> His character if they\u2019re not in the Word\/if they\u2019re not looking at revelation of who He is. I know what He\u2019s done, and I can thank Him for that in my life; but I get stalled\u2014like: \u201cWho is He, really?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>So I have a couple words; and then I\u2019m done, which shows sort of the depth of our spiritual maturity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I think you\u2019re right; biblical literacy is a part of that. The more we know His Word, we have those words to pull on\u2014that He is Shepherd; that He is Rescuer; that He is the Righteous One; that He is Jehovah-Rapha, the Healer. We pull those words from Scripture, and that helps us with that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe do offer prayers of praise; we offer prayers of thanksgiving; but maybe the sweetest time is when we move into prayers of confession\u2014you know, just to begin our prayer, \u201cLord, I confess\u2026\u201d Honestly, that\u2019s when it gets the most real. I guess I would just ask the question\u2014to those parents who are listening\u2014\u201cHave your kids ever heard you confess a specific sin?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf they haven\u2019t\u2014you know, you can read my book all you want; but I think all of us, as parents, know that our kids\u2014they tend to follow our example more than what we tell them to do. They\u2019re probably going to follow your example more than what you read to them, even out of a book. If we want our kids to have a relationship with God that <em>includes<\/em> the <em>joy<\/em> that comes from experiencing forgiveness, followed by confessing a specific sin to God, maybe they\u00a0 need to hear us confess a specific sin to God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Now, have you done that?\u2014have your kids heard you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>My big regret\u2014it\u2019s one of my biggest regrets, during my son\u2019s growing-up years\u2014was not doing that more. I think I didn\u2019t figure out, until he was a young adult, how much that void in my prayer presence in his life, I think, was harmful to me and to him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat I robbed him from was hearing me pray\u2014confess it as sin; name it as that; the accountability that comes in a family, then, from that\u2014but then also praying and asking God for the power to forsake that sin, and letting him see the gospel is not about perfect behavior; but instead, the gospel is about being able to confess my sin and experience, not only His forgiveness, but the <em>power<\/em> to forsake that sin and, then, walk in that newness of life\/walk out that repentance. That would have been such a better example than some of the ways he did hear me pray.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>You know, as you say that, I go right to James 5, thinking about what James told us to do with confession. Think about that, as you\u2019re talking about sharing it with one another\u2014because often we think: \u201cConfession\u2019s a private thing\u2014it\u2019s just me and God. I don\u2019t want my son or daughter to know; I don\u2019t even want my spouse to know,\u201d\u2014as he says this\/look at this: \u201cTherefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve taught this, as a pastor\u2014I\u2019ve taught: \u201cOkay; you can confess your sin to God and you think you\u2019re done; and yet, when you never speak that out to a friend\/somebody that loves you, what\u2019s going on?\u2014you may not be healed of that addiction.\u201d It\u2019s like, \u201cOh, we\u2019re good now, God and I are\u2026\u201d and you know you\u2019re going to go back to it; because <em>nobody<\/em> knows. But the second you bring somebody else into it\u2014whether it\u2019s a son, or a spouse, or a best friend\u2014now, I\u2019m on the hook: \u201cBob, I just told you I struggle with this\u201d; Bob\u2019s going to be like, \u201cDude, I\u2019m going to hold you to that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There\u2019s some accountability.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>\u201cLet\u2019s see you get healed by God.\u201d It doesn\u2019t happen until it\u2019s public\u2014that\u2019s: \u201cWay to go!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Nancy, you have six sections in the book, <em>What Every Child Should Know About Prayer<\/em>. I just want to walk through these, because I think it gives parents an outline for how we teach our kids about prayer: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFirst, \u201cGod wants us to talk to Him\u201d; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tsecond, \u201cPrayer is more than asking God for things\u201d; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tthird, \u201cGod\u2019s people have always prayed\u201d; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tfourth, \u201cThe Psalms give us words to pray\u201d; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tfifth, \u201cJesus teaches us to pray\u201d; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tand then the last section is: \u201cLet\u2019s pray: Here\u2019s how we can do this.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can see\u2014where a mom and a dad, or a grandparent with grandchild, reading through these sections\u2014you\u2019re learning yourself; you\u2019re teaching your kids; you are getting very practical about what the discipline of prayer can and should look like. I would think kids going through this would come out the other end and it would be something, maybe, they\u2019re even more comfortable with than Mom and Dad are.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Wouldn\u2019t that be great?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>If you can learn to pray, as a child, and you know you have a heavenly Father, who hears your prayers and you can tell Him how you feel, and what you need, and you can tell Him what you\u2019ve done, that becomes a habit in a lifetime. Think about how that changes the teen years, and the young adult years, and <em>all<\/em> of the years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I think, for me\u2014I didn\u2019t grow up in the church, so I had <em>no<\/em> modeling whatsoever\u2014but I <em>knew<\/em> that I had a relationship with Jesus. Probably out of my youth, and not knowing much, I got into this habit of praying out loud with my kids all the time in the car, from the time they were babies. Because I knew it was a relationship, I was very honest with God, saying: \u201cGod, I\u2019m so mad at You today!\u201d or \u201cGod, I <em>need<\/em> You today,\u201d\u2014and there was a desperateness in my prayer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t make them listen, but I don\u2019t know why I even prayed out loud all the time with them. Later, as they\u2019ve gotten older, they\u2019ve told me, \u201cI learned how to have a relationship with Jesus, watching your conversations and listening to your conversations.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I just want to let listeners know\u2014if you\u2019re a parent or a grandparent, this is one of the privileges we have\u2014to help guide our children and our grandchildren in this discipline of learning to talk to God. Nancy, your book, <em>What Every Child Should Know About Prayer<\/em>, is a <em>great<\/em> book for parents or grandparents to take their kids through and to help them think about\/help them learn about how we communicate with God\u2014the invitation He\u2019s given us to build a relationship with Him through prayer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have copies of the book, <em>What Every Child Should Know About Prayer<\/em>. Again, this is a book for you to read <em>with<\/em> your kids or to your kids, depending on what age they are. You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information about Nancy\u2019s book, or you can call to order at 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn addition, Nancy has a one-year prayer guide for parents called <em>Praying Through the Bible for Your Kids<\/em>; and this is not <em>with<\/em> your kids, this is <em>for<\/em> your kids. We have that book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center, as well; so parents may want to get both the book to read to their kids and the book that they can use, themselves, as a prayer guide, that we\u2019re going to talk about more this week. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com for information on these resources, or call 1-800-FLTODAY to order. The website, once again, is FamilyLifeToday.com, and our number is 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, as we near the end of the month of August, we want to, once again, come to listeners and just say, \u201cWe need your help.\u201d We are hoping to take full advantage of a matching-gift opportunity that has been made available to us this month. Every donation we receive, during the month of August, is being matched, dollar for dollar, up to a total of $500,000. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we\u2019re able to take advantage of this match, it\u2019s going to enable us to move ahead with some pretty significant projects, like the translation of the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> video series and the movie, <em>Like Arrows<\/em>, into Mandarin and Arabic. We\u2019re already seeing how God is using the Spanish language translations in Central and South America, and we want to extend this outreach to other parts of the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s why we\u2019re asking you to help fund these projects and expand the reach of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> in other areas. Would you make a donation today, knowing that that donation is going to be matched, dollar for dollar, and help us take advantage of this matching-gift opportunity? If you\u2019re able to donate, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you Dennis and Barbara Rainey\u2019s book, <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em>. You can keep that for yourself; or if you know someone who would benefit from a copy of that book, you can pass it on to them. You can donate, easily, online at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call to donate: 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we\u2019re going to move from talking about teaching our kids to pray to how we can more effectively, more deeply, more regularly pray <em>for<\/em> our children, no matter what ages they are. Nancy Guthrie will be back with us. I hope you can be back with us as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. 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This requires that children understand who God is. If we want our kids to have an intimate relationship with God we need to model that.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2019-08-29.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m assuming your children have heard you pray; right? Nancy Guthrie wonders, \u201cWhat kinds of prayers have they heard you pray?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Have your kids ever heard you confess a specific sin? If we want our kids to have a relationship with God that <em>includes<\/em> the <em>joy<\/em> that comes from experiencing forgiveness, followed by confessing a specific sin to God, maybe they need to hear us confess a specific sin to God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, August 29<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I'm Bob Lepine. When we teach our children about prayer, in addition to instruction, they need to see us modeling what prayer looks like. We\u2019ll talk more about that with Nancy Guthrie today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We\u2019re going to talk about prayer, and we\u2019re going to talk about two things about prayer. We\u2019re going to talk about parents praying for their kids and about parents teaching their kids how to pray. Which of those do you want to talk about first?\u2014which is the bigger issue, do you think, for most parents?\u2014teaching their kids how to pray or praying for their kids?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I think they go, hand in hand.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>That\u2019s a big one, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I don\u2019t think you can teach your kids how to pray unless you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Oh, you\u2019re side-stepping the issue. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Oooohhh!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Yes, yes; she\u2019s good at that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I think you\u2019re right. No; I will grant you\u2014I think you\u2019re right that they do go, hand in hand. 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Nancy, welcome back!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Oh my goodness; I\u2019m so thrilled to get to be with you guys today and with your listeners.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s been a while since you\u2019ve been on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. How long a while has it been?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s 2019. Let\u2019s see\u2014maybe I was here in 2002 or 2003? So that\u2019s a while.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s been a while!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>You\u2019re making me age myself, Bob! I don\u2019t really appreciate that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But in fact\u2014I shared this with you\u2014I saw, recently, a tweet from you. It was a picture of you, 20 years ago, with your daughter, Hope, 20 years ago; because you just went past the milestone of 20 years since Hope went to heaven.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When you were here before, we talked about Hope and Gabe and about the challenge you and your husband faced with two kids who did not live long.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I just didn\u2019t want to let this pass without you knowing that we still think about you guys and still think about Hope and still think about Gabe.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>That\u2019s kind of you. You know, I guess I would just say, as we\u2019re going to talk about prayer today, I think those experiences, 20 years ago, when I gave birth to a daughter and found out that she was going to live less than six months\u2014and I began to ask myself, \u201cHow do you pray for a child who\u2019s going to die?\u201d\u2014maybe that was beginning\/ground floor of trying to figure out, \u201cWhat does it look like to be a parent, who prays, in this world, where God is sovereign and we would like to be?\u201d Maybe, that was actually a good place to start.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>That\u2019s inspiring, in and of itself, because many people would have a hard time even beginning to pray at that point of their journey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I did too!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Honestly; yes. I remember feeling really guilty at times that so many people would say, \u201cWe\u2019re praying for you!\u201d I remember telling some of them, \u201cWell, that\u2019s really good; because we\u2019re not praying that much.\u201d I mean, I think, initially, we did, but then there were just so many questions; and honestly, just hardly knowing where to begin praying. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was really grateful to know that people were praying for us. I was grateful to know that the Holy Spirit prays for us when we don\u2019t have the words\/when we don\u2019t know what to pray. He prays for us with this groaning, so that was really good news to me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>In our online archive, at FamilyLifeToday.com, if listeners want to listen back to that conversation from 15-plus years ago\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>My copy is on cassettes, so that says something to you about how long it was! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, we have an updated copy for you; we can give you the MP3 files now. You can go and download these conversations, at FamilyLifeToday.com, with Nancy Guthrie and hear about those days with Hope and with Gabe.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou have, since, written on prayer. You\u2019ve written a one-year Bible devotional for parents to pray for their kids and, then, wrote a book for kids on learning how to pray. Where do we start? Do we start with parents praying for their kids, or do we start with teaching our kids how to pray?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Well, let\u2019s start younger and go older; okay?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I think we should start with what every child should know about prayer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I think all of us, who have children\/grandchildren, we <em>want<\/em> our kids to know how to pray; we want them to pray. If you think about it, you know, what is the way we typically teach our children to pray? I mean, most kids, when they pray, I think one thing dominates their prayers: thank-yous\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>\u2014and telling God what we want. Those are good things; I mean, those are a <em>big<\/em> part of prayer. Aren\u2019t we <em>so<\/em> glad that we have a God, who\u2019s so worthy of thanks, to thank Him?\u2014and that He is our loving Father, that we can approach Him and tell Him what we need?<br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that\u2019s a pretty limited vocabulary for prayer. That\u2019s one reason I put together this book, <em>What Every Child Should Know About Prayer<\/em>; because I want to <em>expand<\/em> children\u2019s vocabulary, children\u2019s <em>focus<\/em>, children\u2019s <em>expectations<\/em>, and children\u2019s <em>experience<\/em> of prayer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Don\u2019t you think most kids have that limited vocabulary because all they\u2019ve ever heard is Mom and Dad?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Well, I think you\u2019re stealing my points! [Laughter] Yes; exactly. I mean, if you think about it, when do they hear us pray?\u2014usually before a meal. I mean, I would imagine, in a lot of homes, that\u2019s the <em>only<\/em> time\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right; maybe bedtime.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>\u2014maybe bedtime\u2014right?\u2014that they hear their parents pray.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>And it might not even be an authentic prayer. It might be a read or a memorized\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>\u2014by rote prayer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I mean, I can think of a lot of my experiences in my family that\u2014I mean, I know exactly what\u2019s coming; because it\u2019s what\u2019s <em>always<\/em> said.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When that\u2019s what you\u2019re modeling in prayer, what are you teaching kids about prayer?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Well, I think it takes away from a genuine conversation with a <em>real<\/em> Person, who is God <em>Himself<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>So yes; as parents, we want to model a <em>genuine<\/em> conversation about things that matter. You know, one thing I write in the book: \u201cWhat do we talk to God about?\u201d We talk to Him\/God about the things that matter to us and the things that matter to <em>Him<\/em>. That means that we have to be people, who are in God\u2019s Word. We have to be in Scripture, too; because that\u2019s going to inform how we pray. That\u2019s a genuine conversation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, I come here and I meet you guys; and we\u2019re talking. What are we talking about? We talk about the things that matter to us and talk about the things that matter to you, because that\u2019s <em>relationship<\/em>; that\u2019s a genuine conversation. That\u2019s what we want prayer to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I\u2019m going to read one of them: \u201cGod Hears Us When We Pray\u201d; and then it says, \u201cGod can hear us when we say our prayers out loud or when we talk to Him from our hearts. If we say them out loud or whisper them, it might help us keep our minds on what we want to say to Him. God has promised to hear the prayers of all people who belong to Him,\u201d and then you have Psalm 116:1: \u201cI love the Lord because He hears my voice and my prayer for mercy.\u201d Then there\u2019s a prayer I can pray: \u201cI love You, Lord, because You listen to my prayers.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat, alone, for kids to understand: God hears us; He <em>listens<\/em> to us; and then Scripture to go along with that. I <em>love<\/em> pouring this truth of gold into kids\u2019 hearts, and they\u2019ll want to read it; it\u2019s so good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is 141 pages, so this is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Yes; it\u2019s not a short little book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is not a bedtime story, although you can take two pages\u2014basically, every two pages is a new thought; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Yes; I know a lot of people who say they take either a section a night\u2014depending on how old the child is\u2014or just one page, and talk about it. I\u2019ve tried to make the pages create the opportunity for interaction\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>\u2014conversation; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>\u2014between adult and child, who\u2019s reading it, so that it can lead to <em>actual<\/em> prayer, as you mentioned, there. It says, \u201cI can pray\u201d; so trying to give them some words to pray. Or sometimes, it\u2019s a question you could ask and discuss with a child. So it becomes\u2014yes; not just reading a story\u2014but conversation about this important thing called prayer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Here\u2019s what\u2019s really amazing about this. As I look at each couple of pages, it\u2019s stuff adults need to learn. This isn\u2019t just five-year-olds; this is\u2014I would love people in my congregation to know that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I think that was part of the idea.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>It\u2019s her secret plan. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s certainly what I have heard, over and over again, which, I have to say, does thrill me\u2014you know, that I hear from adults, who are reading\u2014maybe they got it for their kids\u2014but they\u2019re like, \u201cI\u2019m <em>learning<\/em> some things as I read this,\u201d and that makes me really happy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Are you a natural pray-er?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I think my\u2014one of my most common prayers is, \u201cLord, forgive me for my prayerlessness!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Oh, wow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Because yes; it\u2019s a lot easier to <em>talk<\/em> about prayer than to pray.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I think, actually, I\u2019m <em>becoming<\/em> better at prayer; but I think it is a <em>lifetime<\/em> pursuit. I want prayer to be more a part of my waking up rather than scrolling through my phone. I want prayer to be more a part of through my day, not just at mealtime. I want prayer to be the way I end the day\u2014not with Netflix and not with so many other things it can be filled with\u2014but with talking to that Person that I would say to you is my most important relationship.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>It\u2019s interesting\u2014you say that; and yet, you wrote this book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>What prompted you to want to write this about prayer?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Well, I think because I do see this need, with kids, to really be grounded in prayer that\u2019s real and not prayer that\u2019s rote. And I really wanted to use the opportunity to really mine through the <em>Bible<\/em> about what it says about prayer and not focus solely on the experience. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you see in there, I have a section on the Psalms. I mean, the Psalms are an incredible resource when it comes to prayer! These are divinely-given words that\u2014it\u2019s such a unique book in the Bible, because they\u2019re divinely-given words for us to sing or pray back to Him\/back to God. That\u2019s amazing!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have a section on how the Psalms help us to pray and shape how we pray; a section on various people in the Bible and what they prayed for\u2014I think that\u2019s really significant for kids. You have Solomon, who prayed for wisdom; you have David, who prayed that God would make his heart clean after he sinned. I think maybe the most poignant to me is Paul. When Paul prays, he begs God three times to take this pain away of this thorn. There, I think, we learn a <em>very<\/em> important lesson for us to talk to kids about God; and that is, that sometimes God\u2019s answer to our prayer to take our pain away is that He says: \u201cMy grace is sufficient. My strength is made perfect in weakness.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I had a man in our church come to us and say, \u201cI would like to buy a copy of this book for every family in our church and give it as a gift.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>May his tribe increase! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, I think it was his burden to see, not just kids learn the basics of prayer, but moms and dads find a way to incorporate this and to make it be a more vibrant part of what the family\u2019s structure is. You know, your confession\u2014let\u2019s just be honest\u2014we can ask around the table.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>No, let\u2019s not; let\u2019s not!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We can go out to most Christian gatherings and we could say, \u201cHow many of you would say, \u2018In my spiritual life, the area where I\u2014I may be struggling in all kinds of areas\u2014but the area where I have it most together\u2014my prayer life\u2014I\u2019m doing really well in that\u2019?\u201d You ask that question\u2014I guarantee you\u2014you may have two hands go up from people who, for whatever reason, are gifted\/burdened; it\u2019s just a part of the makeup of who they are in prayer. They\u2019re prayer warriors, as we like to say.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think most of us would just say, \u201cMy prayer life is not what it ought to be\/what I\u2019d like for it to be.\u201d It\u2019s the discipline; it\u2019s\u2014Mary Ann and I were having this conversation recently. I just said, \u201cThis is something that I do by faith.\u201d She said, \u201cWell, what do you mean you do it by faith?\u201d I said: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPrayer is <em>always<\/em> an exercise of faith, because you can\u2019t see who you\u2019re talking to; He doesn\u2019t talk back, audibly, to you. You are praying, believing Somebody\u2019s there; Somebody\u2019s listening; Somebody cares; this really matters and this is not just an exercise in some kind of futility [rational reasoning]: \u201cBecause God is sovereign and going to do whatever He\u2019s going to do anyway, so why bother to pray?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can come up with all of the reasons why prayer does not make <em>rational<\/em> sense, but the Bible tells us this is what God wants from us; so I have to, by faith, say: \u201cI\u2019m going to respond in faith and do what God\u2019s called me to do,\u201d and \u201cI\u2019m going to teach my kids the same thing.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Can I go back to this?\u2014what I was talking about earlier, when I said that mostly our kids know how to <em>thank<\/em> God for things and <em>ask<\/em> God for things.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I think that can be our tendency too. I know that one thing I feel like helps me in regard to prayer\u2014and I think the Bible teaches so clearly, regarding prayer\u2014has to do with some of the other elements that should be in our prayer. I think one of the ones that\u2019s missing <em>so often<\/em> is beginning with praise. Thanksgiving for what He\u2019s done seems to come a lot more <em>natural<\/em> to us than praising Him for who He is\u2014just being willing to land and marinate on His character and who He is\u2014and allow that to then just flow up in prayers of praise.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut we discover, when we do that, that\u2019s such a great foundation to then begin to talk to Him; because we\u2019re so clear on who it is we\u2019re talking to!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>I was wondering if you\u2019ve found that the reason\u2014because I agree; I\u2019ve seen the same thing, even in my own life\u2014but I wonder if people don\u2019t <em>know<\/em> His character if they\u2019re not in the Word\/if they\u2019re not looking at revelation of who He is. I know what He\u2019s done, and I can thank Him for that in my life; but I get stalled\u2014like: \u201cWho is He, really?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>So I have a couple words; and then I\u2019m done, which shows sort of the depth of our spiritual maturity.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>I think you\u2019re right; biblical literacy is a part of that. The more we know His Word, we have those words to pull on\u2014that He is Shepherd; that He is Rescuer; that He is the Righteous One; that He is Jehovah-Rapha, the Healer. We pull those words from Scripture, and that helps us with that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe do offer prayers of praise; we offer prayers of thanksgiving; but maybe the sweetest time is when we move into prayers of confession\u2014you know, just to begin our prayer, \u201cLord, I confess\u2026\u201d Honestly, that\u2019s when it gets the most real. I guess I would just ask the question\u2014to those parents who are listening\u2014\u201cHave your kids ever heard you confess a specific sin?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf they haven\u2019t\u2014you know, you can read my book all you want; but I think all of us, as parents, know that our kids\u2014they tend to follow our example more than what we tell them to do. They\u2019re probably going to follow your example more than what you read to them, even out of a book. If we want our kids to have a relationship with God that <em>includes<\/em> the <em>joy<\/em> that comes from experiencing forgiveness, followed by confessing a specific sin to God, maybe they\u00a0 need to hear us confess a specific sin to God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>Now, have you done that?\u2014have your kids heard you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>My big regret\u2014it\u2019s one of my biggest regrets, during my son\u2019s growing-up years\u2014was not doing that more. I think I didn\u2019t figure out, until he was a young adult, how much that void in my prayer presence in his life, I think, was harmful to me and to him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat I robbed him from was hearing me pray\u2014confess it as sin; name it as that; the accountability that comes in a family, then, from that\u2014but then also praying and asking God for the power to forsake that sin, and letting him see the gospel is not about perfect behavior; but instead, the gospel is about being able to confess my sin and experience, not only His forgiveness, but the <em>power<\/em> to forsake that sin and, then, walk in that newness of life\/walk out that repentance. That would have been such a better example than some of the ways he did hear me pray.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>You know, as you say that, I go right to James 5, thinking about what James told us to do with confession. Think about that, as you\u2019re talking about sharing it with one another\u2014because often we think: \u201cConfession\u2019s a private thing\u2014it\u2019s just me and God. I don\u2019t want my son or daughter to know; I don\u2019t even want my spouse to know,\u201d\u2014as he says this\/look at this: \u201cTherefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve taught this, as a pastor\u2014I\u2019ve taught: \u201cOkay; you can confess your sin to God and you think you\u2019re done; and yet, when you never speak that out to a friend\/somebody that loves you, what\u2019s going on?\u2014you may not be healed of that addiction.\u201d It\u2019s like, \u201cOh, we\u2019re good now, God and I are\u2026\u201d and you know you\u2019re going to go back to it; because <em>nobody<\/em> knows. But the second you bring somebody else into it\u2014whether it\u2019s a son, or a spouse, or a best friend\u2014now, I\u2019m on the hook: \u201cBob, I just told you I struggle with this\u201d; Bob\u2019s going to be like, \u201cDude, I\u2019m going to hold you to that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There\u2019s some accountability.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave: <\/strong>\u201cLet\u2019s see you get healed by God.\u201d It doesn\u2019t happen until it\u2019s public\u2014that\u2019s: \u201cWay to go!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Nancy, you have six sections in the book, <em>What Every Child Should Know About Prayer<\/em>. I just want to walk through these, because I think it gives parents an outline for how we teach our kids about prayer: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFirst, \u201cGod wants us to talk to Him\u201d; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tsecond, \u201cPrayer is more than asking God for things\u201d; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tthird, \u201cGod\u2019s people have always prayed\u201d; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tfourth, \u201cThe Psalms give us words to pray\u201d; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tfifth, \u201cJesus teaches us to pray\u201d; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tand then the last section is: \u201cLet\u2019s pray: Here\u2019s how we can do this.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI can see\u2014where a mom and a dad, or a grandparent with grandchild, reading through these sections\u2014you\u2019re learning yourself; you\u2019re teaching your kids; you are getting very practical about what the discipline of prayer can and should look like. I would think kids going through this would come out the other end and it would be something, maybe, they\u2019re even more comfortable with than Mom and Dad are.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>Wouldn\u2019t that be great?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Nancy: <\/strong>If you can learn to pray, as a child, and you know you have a heavenly Father, who hears your prayers and you can tell Him how you feel, and what you need, and you can tell Him what you\u2019ve done, that becomes a habit in a lifetime. Think about how that changes the teen years, and the young adult years, and <em>all<\/em> of the years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann: <\/strong>I think, for me\u2014I didn\u2019t grow up in the church, so I had <em>no<\/em> modeling whatsoever\u2014but I <em>knew<\/em> that I had a relationship with Jesus. Probably out of my youth, and not knowing much, I got into this habit of praying out loud with my kids all the time in the car, from the time they were babies. Because I knew it was a relationship, I was very honest with God, saying: \u201cGod, I\u2019m so mad at You today!\u201d or \u201cGod, I <em>need<\/em> You today,\u201d\u2014and there was a desperateness in my prayer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t make them listen, but I don\u2019t know why I even prayed out loud all the time with them. Later, as they\u2019ve gotten older, they\u2019ve told me, \u201cI learned how to have a relationship with Jesus, watching your conversations and listening to your conversations.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I just want to let listeners know\u2014if you\u2019re a parent or a grandparent, this is one of the privileges we have\u2014to help guide our children and our grandchildren in this discipline of learning to talk to God. Nancy, your book, <em>What Every Child Should Know About Prayer<\/em>, is a <em>great<\/em> book for parents or grandparents to take their kids through and to help them think about\/help them learn about how we communicate with God\u2014the invitation He\u2019s given us to build a relationship with Him through prayer.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have copies of the book, <em>What Every Child Should Know About Prayer<\/em>. Again, this is a book for you to read <em>with<\/em> your kids or to your kids, depending on what age they are. You can go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information about Nancy\u2019s book, or you can call to order at 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn addition, Nancy has a one-year prayer guide for parents called <em>Praying Through the Bible for Your Kids<\/em>; and this is not <em>with<\/em> your kids, this is <em>for<\/em> your kids. We have that book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center, as well; so parents may want to get both the book to read to their kids and the book that they can use, themselves, as a prayer guide, that we\u2019re going to talk about more this week. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com for information on these resources, or call 1-800-FLTODAY to order. The website, once again, is FamilyLifeToday.com, and our number is 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, as we near the end of the month of August, we want to, once again, come to listeners and just say, \u201cWe need your help.\u201d We are hoping to take full advantage of a matching-gift opportunity that has been made available to us this month. Every donation we receive, during the month of August, is being matched, dollar for dollar, up to a total of $500,000. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we\u2019re able to take advantage of this match, it\u2019s going to enable us to move ahead with some pretty significant projects, like the translation of the <em>Art of Parenting<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> video series and the movie, <em>Like Arrows<\/em>, into Mandarin and Arabic. We\u2019re already seeing how God is using the Spanish language translations in Central and South America, and we want to extend this outreach to other parts of the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s why we\u2019re asking you to help fund these projects and expand the reach of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> in other areas. Would you make a donation today, knowing that that donation is going to be matched, dollar for dollar, and help us take advantage of this matching-gift opportunity? If you\u2019re able to donate, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you Dennis and Barbara Rainey\u2019s book, <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em>. You can keep that for yourself; or if you know someone who would benefit from a copy of that book, you can pass it on to them. You can donate, easily, online at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call to donate: 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we\u2019re going to move from talking about teaching our kids to pray to how we can more effectively, more deeply, more regularly pray <em>for<\/em> our children, no matter what ages they are. Nancy Guthrie will be back with us. I hope you can be back with us as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. 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