{"id":305153,"date":"2019-07-12T06:00:04","date_gmt":"2019-07-12T10:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/what-a-boy-needs\/"},"modified":"2019-07-12T06:00:04","modified_gmt":"2019-07-12T10:00:04","slug":"what-a-boy-needs","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/what-a-boy-needs\/","title":{"rendered":"What a Boy Needs"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Trail Life USA<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> CEO Mark Hancock talks about the differences between boys and girls and the need to have boy-specific activities in scouting programs. 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Hear Mark explain to how to challenge boys, and call out their inner competitor.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2019-07-12.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, July 12<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I\u2019m Bob Lepine. How can we, as parents\/as grownups, recognize what\u2019s going on in the hearts of little boys and help them learn how to yield to authority and other things they need to learn in order to be successful in life? We\u2019re going to talk with Mark Hancock about that today. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I need your help on whether I thought rightly about this. Here\u2019s what happened the other day. I have this rule\/this kind of life rule: \u201cI will buy whatever the Boy Scouts are selling or whatever the Girl Scouts are selling.\u201d I\u2019m an easy mark: \u201cCome to my door. I\u2019m going to buy from that\u201d; okay? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Wow; you just advertised that on radio. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I know; I didn\u2019t give my address. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; you didn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I am an Eagle Scout. I grew up going to Scouts; I sold stuff. I just think, when kids are selling wrapping paper for school or something, you buy some of that; right? It\u2019s a part of how you support things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Well, the other day, I\u2019m walking into the grocery store. There were two young women dressed in\u2014I say dressed in\u2014they were wearing Boy Scout uniforms. They were selling tickets so that they could go to Boy Scout camp this summer. I said, \u201cNot today,\u201d and walked on into the grocery store. I walked in; and I thought: \u201cI just broke my rule. I just broke the rule of: \u2018You buy from these kids who are selling this stuff, and you help them with this experience.\u2019\u201d There was just this thing that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; what was that thing, Bob? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It was that thing, and we are treading into some choppy water here. I get it; but I was conflicted. I thought, \u201cThese are lovely, young women; and I want to support them; but I\u2019m a Boy Scout.\u201d I just\u2014in my mind, it was like\u2014\u201cNo; if you were selling Girl Scout cookies, I\u2019d buy a couple of packs from you; but tickets for you go to Boy Scout camp\u2014it\u2019s just\u2014it\u2019s the blurring of the lines between, \u2018What\u2019s the difference?\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGirl scouting and boy scouting are both very different today than they were when I was growing up. They\u2019re dealing with all of this, and that\u2019s why Boy Scouts are now boys and girls. I don\u2019t know if Girl Scouts are girls and boys\u2014I don\u2019t know where it\u2019s gotten to\u2014but I just found myself violating my cardinal rule and thinking, \u201cDid I do the right thing?\u201d So, did I do the right thing? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Boy, that\u2019s a tough one. I\u2019m going to let my wife answer. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019m not even going to answer that one; but I\u2019m wondering, \u201cWould your Boy Scout experience have been different had girls been involved?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Of course, it would\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014because getting together with boys and going camping, and going hiking, and doing, and learning\u2014all of these things\u2014yes; I would have acted different. I was <em>taught<\/em> to act different if\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014there are girls around. We wouldn\u2019t have gone out and thrown the football around as much as we did, or we wouldn\u2019t have gone out and wrestled like we wrestled when we were Boy Scouts. It would have been a different. You know who I should ask if I did right or wrong?\u2014is the guy who heads Trail Life USA. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Hey, you know what? He\u2019s sitting here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> He\u2019s right here! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Oh, yes; let\u2019s put it on him! [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let\u2019s drag him into this conversation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I bet he\u2019s never been asked this before. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Oh, he is grimacing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I know. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Mark Hancock joins us, again, on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. He\u2019s kind of sad he <em>did<\/em> join us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, at this point, I think. Mark, welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Hey, I think it\u2019s okay to be here. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; so you know the dilemma I\u2019m talking about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Yes; we hear about that a lot. It really is\u2014Boy Scouts has an amazing legacy: presidents, and senators, and leaders, and civic leaders\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014radio hosts. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> \u2014astronauts, even radio hosts. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014famous ones. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> But they\u2019ve decided, in the last few years, that that\u2014whatever that secret sauce was is going to work for boys and girls. A lot of people are struggling like you are: \u201cI\u2019m not sure\u2014I can\u2019t quite identify what\u2019s wrong with that except that I know that it just doesn\u2019t sit right with me.\u201d It\u2019s because I think we know, intuitively, that boys and girls are different; and delivering the same program to boys and girls is not going to get the same results. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s not\u2014I didn\u2019t want to deprive these girls of <em>anything<\/em>. I\u2019d <em>love<\/em> for them to go have a <em>great<\/em> week of camping, and I\u2019d love for them to experience all that I experienced. You\u2019re not trying to withhold anything; but you\u2019re trying to say, \u201cThere\u2019s something special that happens when we acknowledge: \u2018Boys are boys, and girls are girls\u2019.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAt Trail Life USA, that you give leadership to\u2014which is an alternative\/a Christian alternative to Boy Scouts\u2014you don\u2019t have girls in Trail Life; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> No; we don\u2019t. We are both unapologetically Christian, and we are specifically boy-focused. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Have you gotten criticism for not letting girls be a part of Trail Life? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> No; because I think that, for the most part, parents understand\u2014any engaged parent or any teacher, who is paying attention\u2014<em>knows<\/em> that boys and girls are different. We know the power\u2014even in our own lives\u2014just what you describe. It\u2019s hard for you to put words to it; but we <em>know<\/em> that there is something that happens when men gather together, and there is something that happens when women gather together. When you begin to blur those lines, you lose something. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> It\u2019s not that girls need to be punished by not having a program. It\u2019s just that there are programs that cater specifically to girls that are built for them and designed for them\u2014like American Heritage Girls\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> \u2014is a great program for girls. Trail Life USA is an alternative for boys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let me just say, right off the top here: \u201cThere are godly guys, I know, who are leading Boy Scout troops. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cSo, God\u2019s still at work in the Boy Scouts. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Sure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cGod\u2019s still at work in the Girl Scouts. There\u2019s good stuff that is happening there.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are some decisions that leadership have made in both organizations that I\u2019d look at and go, \u201cI\u2019m not sure that\u2019s good for your organization.\u201d We\u2019re not here to try to bash the Boy Scouts or the Girl Scouts. We\u2019re here to say, \u201cWe\u2019ve got to acknowledge that there is a difference between boys and girls; and we\u2019ve got to know, as parents\/as moms and dads: \u201cHow do we support that?\u201d and \u201cHow do we encourage that?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Mark, you are not saying boys are more important than girls. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> No; absolutely not. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> But we think that boys and girls, each, need their own program that is catered to their specific needs and their strengths. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s interesting\u2014we have two retreats in our church year, where we have 1200 men go to a men\u2019s retreat; and we have 1200 women come to a women\u2019s retreat. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s always 1201 women. [Laughter] They always have more women. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes; we actually do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> There <em>not<\/em> competitive; but we hear that <em>every<\/em> year: \u201cOh, how many women do we have?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I\u2019ve done a lot of things with just women\u2019s groups. I\u2019ve even taken a group of 50 women to Israel. I said, \u201cWhat would this be like if your husbands, or your sons, or your boyfriends were on this trip?\u201d or \u201c\u2026at this retreat?\u201d The women said: \u201cOh, it would totally change things; because I am always aware of my husband or another man sitting beside me. I\u2019m just aware of their presence, and I may not have the freedom to act as I would with all women.\u201d I think that\u2019s true for the men as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, I can speak for the men\u2019s retreat. Bob knows this from speaking at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> when we, on Sunday morning, split up the wives and moms together and the men just to be able to address things men need to address with men only and women only. It\u2019s life-changing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s one of the more powerful moments in the weekend; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> What happens there would not happen with the opposite sex in the room, and there are beautiful things that happen when we\u2019re both together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> But there is a unique thing that happens when boys can be boys\/men can be men\u2014women can be women\u2014that you\u2019re sort of tapping into. We are uniquely designed by God differently\u2014not more important\u2014just differently; so it requires a different strategy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTalk about your three-part strategy to help boys be boys and, then, become men. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Well, we\u2019re encouraging leaders of boys\u2014whether it\u2019s in Trail Life or in other organizations\u2014to pay attention to the differences between boys and girls and create learning opportunities that are specifically tailored to them. We ask them to do first\u2014is recognize that boys and girls are different. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2014it\u2019s not a social construct; social construct does not change the structure of our eyes. Social construct does not account for the fact that girls\/young girls can hear ten times better than young boys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, in a classroom setting, what do you think that\u2019s going to look like? It\u2019s going to look like boys aren\u2019t paying attention; and they must be ADHD, or they must be rebellious, or whatever: \u201cWe\u2019ll have to punish them or tell them to pay attention\u201d; but it\u2019s just a biological truth; it\u2019s not a social construct. They don\u2019t learn to shut down their hearing; they don\u2019t learn to be able to see things that are far away and moving much more easily than they see something up close\u2014they are <em>built<\/em> that way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, if somebody is standing in front of an open refrigerator, and they are looking for eggs\u2014and the eggs are right there on the second shelf\u2014and they\u2019re going, \u201cWhere are the eggs?\u201d\u2014is that person a man or a woman, who is standing there and can\u2019t see the eggs?\u2014which is it? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> I think we\u2019re self-ing the question that you came up with. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Bob, this is <em>you<\/em> and Dave, actually. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014and every man I <em>know<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Yes; but I\u2019m not taking sides. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Ann:<\/strong> That\u2019s smart, Mark. That\u2019s very smart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Acknowledging that boys and girls are different, you say that: \u201cWith that acknowledgement, here are some things that parents need to be doing\u2026\u201d \u201c\u2026that teachers need to be doing,\u201d \u201c\u2026that leaders need to be doing as they raise boys. Use plenty of volume.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It needs to be <em>louder<\/em> with boys than it is with girls? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Absolutely. That\u2019s going to <em>terrify<\/em> girls, if you\u2019re loud in a classroom. That\u2019s why it just really works better if you\u2019re separating the kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You also emphasize the need for risk and competition. If you\u2019ve got 30 kids competing\/30 boys competing in something, and one is going to win; what do we call the other 29? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Second place. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Losers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Losers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, you understand where moms and dads or teachers go, \u201cWe don\u2019t want to have 29 losers and one winner.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cI don\u2019t want my child to feel bad about themselves,\u201d and \u201cWe\u2019re fearful\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cto think of themselves as a loser.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> At the same time, we need that experience. We need to <em>know<\/em> that there are things that we are good at, and there are things that we are not as good as somebody else at. We don\u2019t have a level playing field; that isn\u2019t real life, at all. If boys can learn that there are things that they excel at; then, they can learn: \u201cWell, that\u2019s not my thing. That\u2019s okay.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, boys have a tendency to believe that they can do anything before they do it\u2014they just think, \u201cOh, yes.\u201d They see it, one time, on YouTube; and they\u2019ve got it nailed. If we don\u2019t give them the opportunity to try things and fail, then they develop this narcissistic approach to the world: \u201cOh, I can do that\u201d; but they <em>don\u2019t<\/em>. They don\u2019t step out and do it. They just\u2014in their mind, they\u2019ve already assumed that they can; so we encourage risk and competition. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe tell the leaders: \u201cMix it up some. If you\u2019re concerned about a boy losing all the time, mix it up. Let them do teams. Move it around so he\u2019s on a winning team every once in a while. Give him the experience of winning, and succeeding, and doing well; and give him the experience of losing and \u2018Life doesn\u2019t end.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I know that with our boys, as you watch them to see what they are good at and they are gifted at, you could see they weren\u2019t all going to be athletes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tpro-athletes\/college athletes\u2014you name it. One of the things we did, as parents, is\u2014we got them involved in different sports\u2014<em>not<\/em> because that was going to be their thing\u2014but because of the risk, because of the adventure, because of the competition, because of the interaction with other boys. It was really something you look back on\u2014they learn\u2014one of the best things about that is they <em>lost<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> That\u2019s where character is built, in those kind of situations, where you find out: \u201cOh, I thought I could do everything. I found out that I\u2019ve got to humble myself a little bit. Maybe, there are some things that I can\u2019t do that I\u2019m going to have to work harder at,\u201d \u201c\u2026that I\u2019m going to have to practice or study for\/I\u2019m going to have to work for. I\u2019m not going to be handed it.\u201d That\u2019s a great place to learn\u2014losing is a <em>wonderful<\/em> place to learn. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Now, when can competition be <em>bad<\/em>? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Well, you have to follow three rules for boys. You have to give them a secure sense of who is in charge. They have to know who is with them\/who is on their team. They have to know what their mission is. If you\u2019ve got a person, who is clearly in charge\u2014in a Trail Life situation, that\u2019s going to be a child safety\/youth protection, background-checked adult, who is watching that room\u2014they are setting the rules. Boys want rules; they are going to test rules. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou see, when the substitute teacher walks in the room and says, \u201cWell, I\u2019m your substitute today,\u201d the girls say: \u201cOkay; I get this. I understand you\u2019re in charge.\u201d Well, boys want to know\/they want to test that person a little bit because they have to know: \u201cAre you <em>really<\/em> in charge? I\u2019m going to push that boundary a little. I\u2019m going to find out if you are really going to\u2026\u201d What it really comes down to is: \u201cAm I safe?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cIs somebody answering that \u2018Who is in charge?\u2019 question? I need to know because I know these other boys in my classroom. If you can\u2019t handle this, Mr. Substitute Teacher, you don\u2019t know what can happen in here.\u201d They are pushing that; they are trying to establish the boundaries, because they want to know if somebody is solidly in charge. So, you\u2019re trusting that, in that sense\u2014doing that kind of read that you\u2019re talking about\u2014there is an adult there who has an adult perspective\/frontal lobe fully-developed, who can say: \u201cThat\u2019s dangerous,\u201d \u201cThat isn\u2019t.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Your third strategy has to do with physical movement. Talk about that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Yes; we\u2019ve hit on some of that. Boys <em>have<\/em> to move in order to be engaged. They have to have breaks. In our culture, we are removing recess. We have completely removed recess in many cases; and we expect those boys to just sit in that classroom and sit still, be quiet, pay attention for the entire school day. Any psychiatrist\/any physiologist will tell you: \u201cHe\u2019s got to have motion. We\u2019ve got to keep those boys moving.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m thinking about the parents, whose sons are coming home from school, throwing down their books, grabbing their PlayStation controls\u2014and for the next half-hour to, maybe, six hours\u2014the kids are sitting there, <em>glued<\/em> to watching somebody on a screen run around, even though they are not running around. You\u2019re saying a mom or a dad needs to say: \u201cHang on; time out. Turn off the set. Go out in the backyard; run around.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Absolutely; they need to have that physical break. Now, they are trying to solve their issue there about risk and competition\u2014they are entering that video-game world in order to have that opportunity\u2014but you\u2019ve got to give them that physical break also. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Oh, I can remember our boys coming home from school\u2014Ann remembers this\u2014and it\u2019s almost dinnertime or almost bedtime, and they are so wound up. They\u2019re never going to settle down, just driving us crazy. I would go: \u201cAlright; line up. Let\u2019s go. We\u2019re doing 100-yard sprints for the next 20 minutes.\u201d We would just <em>run<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014in the snow, mind you, because in\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014just to get it out of them\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014so they would actually settle down and go to bed; it actually worked. That\u2019s the physical movement, and risk, and competition. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Mary Ann would send the boys out in the backyard and say: \u201cOkay; 100 sticks\u2014go pick up 100 sticks. You get a penny a stick, and go gather them up.\u201d They would go out and gather up their sticks in their piles. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019d get some of the sticks picked up in the backyard. They\u2019d get a buck for doing it, <em>and<\/em> they\u2019re walking around. They\u2019ve got a goal\/they know what the assignment is; they are on the team; and there is a reward for it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWind sprints are good for your boys\u2014get it worked out of them; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> We used to play\u2014and I\u2019ve got to look over at the queen of this\u2014Capture the Flag. Our house\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Your wife was the queen of Capture the Flag? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> She was the <em>queen<\/em>, and she was <em>revered<\/em> by the boys in the neighborhood. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s hard, too; because I remember the boys saying: \u201cMom, come out and play with us. We need you to do this.\u201d Every part of me wanted to say, \u201cNo; I need to do so much in the house\u201d; but I remember this one time, I said, \u201cAlright.\u201d I go outside, and the oldest was like a teenager\u201413 years old\u2014so we\u2019ve got like 5- to 13-year-old boys. I remember my team\u2014they were in prison, and I needed to release them. I am running as hard as I can, through the woods, to release my team from prison. Branches are hitting my face; my shoe falls off; but I get them out, and we win. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember telling the boys\u2014like: \u201cSomething happened to my eye.\u201d I feel like something is in it.\u201d The next morning, I woke up. I could not even open my eye because it was so swollen. I have to go to the eye doctor; I find out I have a thorn in my eye,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Ooh! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u2014which has to be surgically removed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Oh, my goodness! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> So, then, later, I can hear all those same boys that had been over the night before; and I hear our sons say, \u201cHey, did you know that my mom got a thorn in her eye, playing Capture the Flag?\u201d This other kid says, \u201cDude, your mom is awesome!\u201d [Laughter] I was like famous in the neighborhood. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> She still is; she still is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> But it\u2019s really because, as moms, we think, \u201cOh, I don\u2019t want to do this,\u201d\u2014we\u2019re tired. Dads think the same thing, especially after work. We\u2019re all exhausted; but our kids need us to engage with them. Sometimes, that looks\u2014physically, we\u2019re engaging in pulling that out of them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Let me address that real quick; because there\u2019s the single mom out there, who doesn\u2019t have the dad, who is coming home and taking them all outside. There\u2019s a single mom, who may not have the physical abilities, or desire, or time to do what it is that you were able to do; and that\u2019s just such a tragedy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey did a study on the Head Start Program. The number one thing that they found that\u2014the predictor of success for Head Start was: \u201cIs there a dad in the household?\u201d It\u2019s because you\u2019ve got that dad, who walks in the door\u2014Dave, like you did a hundred times, or a thousand times, or a million times\u2014and the boys are sitting there, quietly, because mom\u2019s got them quiet. You come in, and you throw one to the floor\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> \u2014and kick them, and throw them, or whatever; and then you go to the bedroom to go shower, or whatever, and get ready for dinner. They are all fired up now, but they learn to bring it back down again. They have that opportunity of getting fired up and bring it down\u2014fire up and bring it down. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, boys, without that experience\u2014they don\u2019t know how to turn that knob back down again. They show up at school and think something exciting happens, and they just can\u2019t get back into place. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would encourage men, who are listening: \u201cIf you don\u2019t have a son at home, there is a boy somewhere that needs your influence in his life. Reach out to the boy.\u201d Again, you\u2019re not his father; but you can be father-like, and you can provide that thing for him that he so <em>desperately<\/em> needs\u2014a tussling of the hair, a little punch of the arm\u2014just some sort of physical connection. That\u2019s going to give that boy what he just isn\u2019t getting at home, because his mom\u2014as <em>wonderful<\/em> as that single mom is and the struggles that those single moms have\u2014there is just that piece that boys need that they can only get from their dads. They are <em>desperate<\/em> for that touch. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> You know what is interesting?\u2014is I was that boy\u2014single mom.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> I can remember\u2014now, I appreciate it\u2014her grabbing the ball gloves. I\u2019m eight, nine, ten\u2014saying, \u201cLet\u2019s go out in the back and play catch.\u201d My mom who, now, I know\u2014it\u2019s like the last thing she wanted to do. I do remember I was twelve; she would get down\u2014in catcher stance, catcher\u2019s mask on\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014and I remember\u2014twelve\u2014I was throwing pitches. She just walked up; she goes: \u201cOkay; I\u2019m done. I can\u2019t handle your fastball anymore.\u201d [Laughter] But she also got me involved in Boy Scouts\/Webelos\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> \u2014Big Brother. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had a big brother, who\u2014she just knew there had to be other men in her life. She did both\u2014she was the one that said: \u201cMy son needs activity; he needs risk and competition. I can provide some of that, but I also need somebody to come alongside me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019d say to all the single moms: \u201cYou can do it, and get help. There are people who can help you. Trail Life is a <em>great<\/em> ministry to come alongside you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In fact, we\u2019ve information about Trail Life on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com. Tell everybody about the event you\u2019ve got coming up in July. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> July 21-27 in Toccoa, Georgia, is our Summer Adventure and Family Convention with Dennis Rainey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes! Dennis is going to be speaking at that. This is for families to come together. The boys can get involved in Trail Life activities. Mom and Dad can stay in the hotel if they want to stay in the hotel; or if Dad wants to go out and camp with the boys, he can do that; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019ve got a program going on for both during the week that they\u2019re in Georgia. Again, there is more information about the event on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMark, thanks for helping us just think clearly about how we can help our boys be boys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mark:<\/strong> Well, thank you. It\u2019s been a pleasure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m hoping that a lot of our listeners will go to FamilyLifeToday.com, not only to find out about the <em>Rise Up<\/em> event, but we\u2019ve got a copy of a booklet that you\u2019ve written called \u201cLet Boys Be Boys\u201d that is available for free download. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com; and you can download Mark\u2019s booklet. Click on the link and find out more about Trail Life. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTalking today about investing in the lives of young men, David Robbins, the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, is here with us. You heard a great story this week about guys who invested over a period of time in younger men; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> I was in small group, and one of the other dads in my small group is a high school principal at a local high school here. He was talking about these two dads\u2014who, starting in sixth grade, weekly, would meet with this group of guys\/with their sons and some of their friends. They\u2019ve done that over the last six years. Sure enough, these kids just graduated. He was just making this remark of how their character just shines\u2014in the way they treat people, and their love for Jesus, and authenticity and the way they push each other in accountability and in relationships. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe actually brought those dads into his office and was just taking all these notes\u2014was showing me these notes. Then, he said one of the dad\u2019s names. I go, \u201cOh my goodness; is his son named Ben?\u201d He goes, \u201cWell, yes; Ben\u2019s his oldest son.\u201d I go: \u201cBen is a guy, who is investing in a group of seventh graders, every other Wednesday night. My son\u2014my oldest son is one of them.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was just this amazing moment of realizing, not only are these seniors shaped as they get launched into college and beginning their adulting years\u2014the intentionality of investing in young men, not only shapes them in the current, but it also shapes how they end up investing their lives later. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Second Timothy 2:2 at work right here; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cThat which you have heard from me you pass on to faithful men who will share it with others.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>David:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Thank you, David. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne final note before we wrap up for this week. Talking about making disciples\u2014every year in February, for the last nine years, we have had an event that has been about making disciples\/ about strengthening marriages. It\u2019s the FamilyLife <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage cruise. Our tenth anniversary cruise, which will happen in February of 2020, is almost sold out; but we have reserved one cabin that is still available for a couple who joins us this summer in our \u201cStronger Forever Marriage Workout Plan.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is not an exercise plan\u2014well, it is a relationship exercise plan. It\u2019s a series of relationship exercises that couples can do during the summer to help you strengthen your marriage\/help you strengthen your cardio\u2014get your heart beating a little faster or build relationship strength\/relationship muscle. Again, find out about the \u201cStronger Forever Marriage Workout Plan\u201d when you go to our website: FamilyLifeToday.com. When you sign up and download the workouts, you will be automatically registered to, perhaps, win an all-expense-paid trip on the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise\u2014the tenth anniversary cruise in 2020. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNo purchase necessary to enter. The contest begins July 1, 2019; it ends on August 30, 2019. The official rules can be found at FamilyLife.com\/StrongerForever. Sign up today, and who knows?\u2014maybe, you\u2019ll be selected to join us, as our guests, on the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise in 2020. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you have a great weekend this weekend. I hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this weekend. Then, join us back on Monday when we\u2019re going to talk about what couples, who are thinking about marriage, need to be thinking about: \u201cWhat are the key issues you should be tackling as you prepare for marriage?\u201d Scott Kedersha is going to join us. He\u2019s written a book called <em>Ready or Knot<\/em>\u2014that\u2019s K-N-O-T. We\u2019ll talk with him about tying the knot on Monday. I hope you can join us for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you Monday for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. Help for today. 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