{"id":305135,"date":"2019-07-05T06:00:04","date_gmt":"2019-07-05T10:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/where-i-end-2\/"},"modified":"2019-07-05T06:00:04","modified_gmt":"2019-07-05T10:00:04","slug":"where-i-end-2","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/where-i-end-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Where I End"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Katherine Clark was a busy mom. But the arc of her life was redirected by an accident. 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Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Kate Clark\u2019s whole world changed that day at the park, and she shares her story with us today. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I feel a little bit like our listeners are going to hear an audio movie today\u2014you know, the story we\u2019re going to hear, which is actually from Kim Anthony\u2019s new podcast, which is called <em>Unfavorable Odds<\/em>\u2014it\u2019s part of the FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> podcast network. This is a remarkable story\/a real life story of a woman, who lives in Illinois, and who suffered a dramatic\u2014really a life-altering accident one morning at the park, and how she dealt with this, and how her family dealt with this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know, as you guys have been in pastoral ministry, you\u2019ve walked alongside families, who have had these kinds of life-altering moments. It takes some pretty remarkable adjustment and requires a depth of faith that we\u2019re not called on to exercise every day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; I think the hardest thing to negotiate, as a follower of Christ, is personal pain. That\u2019s one thing\u2014when it\u2019s somebody else and that\u2019s difficult\u2014but when it\u2019s you, or your spouse, or your kids, and it\u2019s that close, it is a test of your faith in God: \u201cWhere is God? Is He here? Will He heal? What if He doesn\u2019t? Can I still believe in God?\u201d This story is that whole journey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s also hard, as a mother, to recognize that: \u201cThis will impact my family forever.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> If you\u2019re the one, who has experienced that trauma\u2014whatever it is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014if you\u2019re the one who has been impacted, yes, you\u2019re starting to think, first of all: \u201cWhat is your identity?\u201d If you\u2019ve been a wife and a mom and now,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014all of a sudden,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cWho am I?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe story we\u2019re going to hear today is a remarkable story. It\u2019s Episode 3 from Kim Anthony\u2019s new podcast, which is called <em>Unfavorable Odds<\/em>. Kim interviews people who have gone through life-altering kinds of challenges and have faced those challenges with faith. This interview is with Katherine Clark, who began one early spring day, thinking it was just another day when you take your kids to the playground and realized, pretty quickly, this was not just another day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Podcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> If you\u2019ve ever played tag and braved a sport with a group of children, then you know that, before long, you are the only one being chased. That\u2019s what is happening\u2014I have this kite-string of children on my heels. I\u2019m happy, and I\u2019m laughing. I\u2019m beating these kids at their own little game. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> There you go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> In spite of my flip-flops and jean skirt, I\u2019m having a great time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tUnbeknownst to me though\u2014at the same time\u2014there was a boy, who was climbing this large play structure, full of tubes and slides. He reaches the top of the slide. He\u2019s not really tempted by these purple slopes on this day. Instead, he makes an ill-fated decision. He climbs over the protective barrier and, just as I\u2019m running, he jumps. His sneakers crash on my head, and together, we collide into the ground. His elbow is shattered, and I am paralyzed from the neck down. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim: <\/strong>Kate, one minute you\u2019re running around, dodging kids,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> \u2014playing tag. The next moment, you\u2019re on the ground. Tell me what was going through your mind. What were you feeling? What were you sensing while you lay there on the playground? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> I knew, right away, something was just catastrophically wrong. I\u2019m trying to move; I can\u2019t move. I\u2019m lying on my back in the woodchips. I never lost consciousness. I sensed that there are kids kind of pressing around me, and I hear one of the little girls screaming for the boy to get off of me. He\u2019s screaming that his arm is broken. I didn\u2019t even know he was on me, so I immediately know something is terribly wrong. Pretty soon, after they whisked the boy off of me into the office, there was a teacher at my side. I can tell by her expression, too, that something is not\u2014this is not good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe begins to pray. I, too, am just\u2014I\u2019m praying, pretty quickly, \u201cPlease; please, Lord, do not let me be paralyzed,\u201d because I know, as much as I want to, I cannot\u2014I can\u2019t move anything. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> So you were attempting to move your arms\/your legs? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> I think my brain was attempting\u2014yes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> \u2014to, but there\u2019s nothing happening. I\u2019m just stuck. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> They take you to the hospital; they perform an MRI. What were the results? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> That there\u2019s obvious injury from the MRI. My spinal cord has been crushed and lacerated. They need to do emergency surgery. He tells us, \u201cWe are looking for someone who is willing and able to perform this operation.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen the surgeon\u2014when they do find this surgeon and he arrives\u2014he\u2019s quite honest with us. He tells us: \u201cThis is a Christopher Reeve-level injury. It\u2019s dangerously high, and it\u2019s very serious.\u201d For us, we have a pretty vivid image of the once-strong, six-foot-and-some actor, who was confined to a power wheelchair. That name immediately gives us a real sense of the seriousness of what is happening. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Tell me what was going through your mind. Where did your heart go when you heard those words? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Katherine:<\/strong> When I was in the MRI\u2014that\u2019s a long process\u2014I remember being pretty calm and praying persistently. I\u2019m thinking: \u201cLord, I want to hug my children. I want to braid my daughter\u2019s hair. I want to run alongside them\u201d\u2014just very much\u2014\u201cLord, please, let this cup pass from me. I don\u2019t want this cup.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I get the results that it is, what in the back of my mind I\u2019m thinking that it is, it is a\u2014it\u2019s a blow\u2014it\u2019s an additional blow. But I\u2019m not\u2014I\u2019m not hopeless; I\u2019m not hysterical. I\u2019m still very much\u2014maybe a little bit in shock and thinking, \u201cOkay; so then the next step is surgery.\u201d <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen I was wheeled in for a very long journey of where they were going to cut the front of my neck open\u2014remove the broken fragments. He told them that they needed to then fuse together things back together with some hardware and some donor bone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> When you heard what the procedure would be like, did the doctor express any hope that possibly you would be able to walk again? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> You know, he was a realist, I think. I think paralysis is not really for the faint of heart. He was very much honest. When he came to my family and friends, who were in the waiting room after the surgery, he told them, \u201cI\u2019m pretty sure she\u2019s going to come off of the ventilator that we inserted for surgery; and beyond that, hope is discouraged.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> \u201cHope is discouraged.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Your family has, literally, been told not to hope\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> Correct. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> \u2014in your recovery. You\u2019re in the room\u2014and I don\u2019t know that you have given up hope. After surgery, describe for me what it was like to begin the recovery process. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> Yes; you\u2019re absolutely right\u2014I hadn\u2019t given up hope. I belong to a strong Savior, who does the impossible\/who does work that doctors can\u2019t do. I haven\u2019t\u2014I\u2019m very much\u2014I\u2019m very much living in that moment of: \u201cI believe. Help my unbelief.\u201d That\u2019s kind of a down-beat of my day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat\u2019s lovely, Kim, is\u2014I have people around me, who are also hoping. That\u2019s the beauty of Christian community, where\u2014even when you feel like you can\u2019t\u2014in some situations, when you\u2019re faltering, you have people around you who can buoy you and hope for you\u2014I have both of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the really, I think, just both painful and precious moments that my husband would remember or he would say\u2014there was this moment, where my daughter comes to him; and she says, \u201cIs it okay that I prayed that Mom can walk?\u201d She\u2019s heard the words from the doctor\u2019s mouth that: \u201cShe\u2019s not getting out of bed on her own. She\u2019s never going to walk again. Life as you know it is changed\u2014is over. You need to start something new.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s this moment, in parenting, where you think: \u201cOkay; do we believe what we say we believe?\u201d and \u201cWhat do I say to this precious child?\u201d He tells her, \u201cYes; pray for that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> She presses in, and she prays that her mom can walk. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Is God still good, whether someone walks again or not? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> He <em>absolutely<\/em> is still good. This is just the hardness of the reality of this side of heaven. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, one of the things, I think, we sometimes\u2014we make this mistake of saying things that are good when they\u2019re not good. For example, sometimes, I\u2019ll hear people say things like, \u201cI\u2019m so thankful for cancer.\u201d Well, I\u2019m not thankful for cancer!\u2014cancer is <em>horrible<\/em>; cancer is <em>death<\/em>. I\u2019m thankful for <em>Jesus Christ<\/em>, who is life, and light, and who is the One who can <em>use<\/em> horrible things to produce good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod is <em>most definitely<\/em> good; and He can use those very, very painful things in our lives\u2014that He also hates. He can use those things to produce beauty, and goodness, and just\u2014He writes amazing stories. We don\u2019t need to call evil good, but we need to be thankful for the One who is good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> \u2014and the One who is walking with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> Amen! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Were you always able to sense the presence of the Lord? Was there ever a time, after the accident, where you felt abandoned or you wondered where He was? Or was your faith unshakable from the very beginning? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> There were definitely times, where I just felt like: \u201cLord, do You see me? Do You see me?\u201d I think that, even still today, we go through times, where we just\u2014we doubt, and we just wonder, \u201cLord, do You see me?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYes; I think in\u2014that\u2019s, again, like those moments, where it\u2019s not our grip that\u2019s so sure\u2014it\u2019s <em>His<\/em> grip that is sure. I\u2019m thankful for that, so glad that He\u2019s not counting on me. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> My pastor once, recently, said, \u201cGod does everything, and we do something.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cYes; okay; I\u2019m going to do my little something, but the Lord has me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> \u201cHe has me, and no one can snatch us out of His hands.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> There were times when your faith or, possibly,\u2014please correct me if I am wrong\u2014that hope that you would walk again [was] challenged. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m going to talk about a couple of scenarios. The first one was when you were driving your power wheelchair down the corridor and someone stopped you. They asked you a question that <em>really<\/em> took you off guard. Tell me: \u201cWhat was that question?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> I\u2019m using my power wheelchair on my way to therapy, and this woman stops me. She says, \u201cAre you a quadriplegic?\u201d I didn\u2019t even know how to answer that; I just was kind of <em>stunned<\/em>. Quite honestly, no one had said those words to me\u2014not even the doctors. It\u2019s the first time I\u2019ve actually heard the words, and I\u2019m a little bit stunned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, I asked my therapist, \u201cAm I a quadriplegic?\u201d She said, \u201cYes.\u201d It\u2019s just this crazy moment, where I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWhat are you talking about?\u201d It\u2019s the first time I\u2019ve heard the words, and they do <em>not<\/em> sound good to my ears. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> No; not at all. Then there is another instance. Your son makes a comment. What did he say, and how did that affect you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> Yes; one of our favorite things\u2014my kids would come in the evening, and we\u2019d all have dinner together. Then, they would love to drive my wheelchair really fast down the hallways. He\u2019s sitting on my lap, and he\u2019s driving the power-wheelchair. We do\u2014we reach this end, and we see this sign. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s kind of contemplating it: \u201cHandicap,\u201d and he says, \u201cMom, are you handicapped?\u201d Before I can even answer, he\u2019s like, \u201cOh, wait; you\u2019re a quad.\u201d It was like the breath just went out of me, and I\u2019m trying to hold it together. I know I didn\u2019t say anything to him, and he just kind of kept going. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen he left, I remember someone has helped me get back into my bed. I had this sweet nursing assistant. She came in; and I just <em>wept<\/em>: \u201cI don\u2019t want to be a quad. I don\u2019t want my kids to think of me as a quad. These are words that are painful and <em>not<\/em> good.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Through it all, you said you were not afflicted with the question, \u201cWhy me?\u201d However, you said you were harassed, at times, by the question, \u201cWhy?\u201d From your perspective, what\u2019s the difference between \u201cWhy me?\u201d and \u201cWhy?\u201d Is one or the other more acceptable? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> I didn\u2019t say, \u201cWhy me?\u201d because I had been in so many good churches, where we had talked about pain and suffering; and this is a part of the Christian life. You don\u2019t get by without having a cross to pick up. Jesus Christ tells us to pick up our cross. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI wasn\u2019t actually surprised that I was in pain and that something <em>terrible<\/em> had happened to <em>me<\/em>; but I was wondering, at times, about, \u201cWhy?\u201d It doesn\u2019t throw the Lord off guard when we ask those questions; okay? [Laughter] I mean, the Psalms are full of them; I <em>love<\/em> the Psalms. It\u2019s just honesty; He already <em>knows<\/em> what we\u2019re feeling in our hearts\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> \u2014so we might as well just utter it right back to Him. We can ask those questions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tButt we also notice in the Psalms is they\u2019ll ask that; but then, they\u2019ll always return to <em>who<\/em> the Lord is. What\u2019s important is\u2014when we ask that question and, then, we\u2014in the end, we remind ourselves, \u201cBut this is who You are.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> We need to continually be confessing words of truth about Him\/singing words of truth about Him because we are so prone to forget. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYes; we can ask the questions; but if we just stick to the \u201cWhy?\u201d question, it\u2019s this maze that you will not get out of. It will\u2014it can really turn you inward. That\u2019s not really a good place to be\u2014just continually looking inward\u2014because you\u2019ll start to feel a lot of pity, and despair, and things like that. You need to turn your face back to Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, again, we\u2019ve been listening to a part of an interview that Kim Anthony did with Katherine Clark. I hate to even jump in here\u2014it\u2019s kind of like we just watched the first half of the movie; and we don\u2019t get to hear the rest of the movie. I\u2019ll just mention to our listeners\u2014you can hear the rest of this story when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com and download Episode 3 of Kim Anthony\u2019s new podcast, which is called <em>Unfavorable Odds<\/em>. You\u2019ll find the podcast information, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. This is a story you\u2019ll want to hear the rest of. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI tell you guys\u2014I was thinking, as I was listening\u2014something I\u2019ve reflected on, often, when I hear stories like this. The time to build a strong faith and trust in God is not when you find yourself in the middle of the valley. You build that strong faith and trust so that, when you wind up in the valley, you\u2019ve got a rock to stand on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I remember being in my 20s, hearing Tony Evans say: \u201cYou never see them pouring the cement basement in a downpour rainstorm. You\u2019re always building your foundation when things are good.\u201d It\u2019s not easy to do that, but the story is inspiring. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> The truth of life is, as we\u2019ve just heard, every life will encounter a storm. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s coming\u2014it\u2019s not an easy thing to say. I\u2019ve preached this many times: \u201cYou are either in a storm, you\u2019ve just come out of a storm, or you\u2019re headed into one,\u201d\u2014which is not fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere is the truth of what we just heard\u2014you\u2019re going to hear the rest of the story\u2014but it\u2019s like that storm can make you better or bitter. The choice is yours. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> The truth is: \u201cGod is in the storm.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014with you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He\u2019s always there with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> But it\u2019s hard to always remember that in it, which is the journey we\u2019ve been on; but there is a God that can really make us better if we can come through that the way He wants us to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s clear that one of the reasons why Katherine was ready for that storm is because she had a walk with Jesus every day. When this happened, she knew right where to go\u2014you go to Jesus and say, \u201cOkay; what do we do now?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou said we can hear the rest of the story\u2014we can\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com and download Kim Anthony\u2019s entire conversation with Katherine Clark. Maybe, subscribe to Kim\u2019s podcast, which is called <em>Unfavorable Odds<\/em>. Information about subscribing or listening to today\u2019s interview with Katherine Clark are all available, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got copies of Katherine\u2019s book, <em>Where I End<\/em>, in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order the book from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call to order at 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me just say\u2014if you listen to the extended conversation that Kim had with Katherine Clark, she talks about how her surgeon eventually came to her and said: \u201cI can take no credit for what\u2019s happened here. God did this.\u201d She also talks about, eventually, seeing the boy who caused the accident and how she wound up processing her thoughts about that encounter. Again, that\u2019s all available on the extended podcast version of today\u2019s program. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we are hoping that all of you are taking some time this summer to get into shape. I\u2019m not talking about physical shape; although, that\u2019s good to do. I\u2019m talking about your marriage relationship\u2014relational shape. We have designed, here at FamilyLife, a series of workouts for couples that\u2014some of them are designed to build strength into your relationship; some are designed to get the heart racing\u2014you know, build cardio in your marriage relationship. We\u2019re calling this the \u201cStronger Forever Summer Workout Plan.\u201d You can sign up and receive it from us\u2014it\u2019s free. You can download the whole thing. We\u2019ll send you regular prompts to keep you going during the plan. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s the kicker on this. One of you, who signs up to get the information and participate in the \u201cStronger Forever Summer Workout\u201d schedule\u2014we\u2019re going to draw your name, and you\u2019ll be our guests on the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage cruise, Valentine\u2019s week of 2020. We\u2019ll cover the cost of airfare for you and your spouse, your stateroom costs, and we\u2019ll put you up in the hotel the night before the cruise\u2014again, no purchase necessary to enter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe contest began on July 1; it ends on August 30. The official rules can be found at FamilyLife.com\/StrongerForever. Sign up there for the summer workout. One couple that signs up will be joining us on the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise in 2020. Find out more; go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Strengthen your marriage during the summer months; and then, it\u2019ll feel like summer in February when you\u2019re on the cruise with us, Valentine\u2019s week of 2020. Again, all the information about the workout plan and the cruise are available, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you have a great weekend this weekend. I hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church, and I hope you can join us on Monday. We\u2019ll introduce you to a couple, who had a very difficult start to their marriage. Their first three or four years were very hard, and they\u2019ll explain why on Monday; but they\u2019ll also talk about how they learned that the only foundation for a struggling marriage is for you to be anchored in the right stuff. You\u2019ll meet Aaron and Jennifer Smith Monday, and I hope you can be with us for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. Help for today. 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But the arc of her life was redirected by an accident. Katherine talks to Kim Anthony about her two-year journey of fear, faith, acceptance, and healing from total paralysis.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2019-07-05.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, July 5<sup>th<\/sup>. Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson; I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Kate Clark\u2019s whole world changed that day at the park, and she shares her story with us today. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I feel a little bit like our listeners are going to hear an audio movie today\u2014you know, the story we\u2019re going to hear, which is actually from Kim Anthony\u2019s new podcast, which is called <em>Unfavorable Odds<\/em>\u2014it\u2019s part of the FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> podcast network. This is a remarkable story\/a real life story of a woman, who lives in Illinois, and who suffered a dramatic\u2014really a life-altering accident one morning at the park, and how she dealt with this, and how her family dealt with this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know, as you guys have been in pastoral ministry, you\u2019ve walked alongside families, who have had these kinds of life-altering moments. It takes some pretty remarkable adjustment and requires a depth of faith that we\u2019re not called on to exercise every day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> Yes; I think the hardest thing to negotiate, as a follower of Christ, is personal pain. That\u2019s one thing\u2014when it\u2019s somebody else and that\u2019s difficult\u2014but when it\u2019s you, or your spouse, or your kids, and it\u2019s that close, it is a test of your faith in God: \u201cWhere is God? Is He here? Will He heal? What if He doesn\u2019t? Can I still believe in God?\u201d This story is that whole journey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> It\u2019s also hard, as a mother, to recognize that: \u201cThis will impact my family forever.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> If you\u2019re the one, who has experienced that trauma\u2014whatever it is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014if you\u2019re the one who has been impacted, yes, you\u2019re starting to think, first of all: \u201cWhat is your identity?\u201d If you\u2019ve been a wife and a mom and now,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014all of a sudden,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> \u201cWho am I?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe story we\u2019re going to hear today is a remarkable story. It\u2019s Episode 3 from Kim Anthony\u2019s new podcast, which is called <em>Unfavorable Odds<\/em>. Kim interviews people who have gone through life-altering kinds of challenges and have faced those challenges with faith. This interview is with Katherine Clark, who began one early spring day, thinking it was just another day when you take your kids to the playground and realized, pretty quickly, this was not just another day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Podcast] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> If you\u2019ve ever played tag and braved a sport with a group of children, then you know that, before long, you are the only one being chased. That\u2019s what is happening\u2014I have this kite-string of children on my heels. I\u2019m happy, and I\u2019m laughing. I\u2019m beating these kids at their own little game. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> There you go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> In spite of my flip-flops and jean skirt, I\u2019m having a great time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tUnbeknownst to me though\u2014at the same time\u2014there was a boy, who was climbing this large play structure, full of tubes and slides. He reaches the top of the slide. He\u2019s not really tempted by these purple slopes on this day. Instead, he makes an ill-fated decision. He climbs over the protective barrier and, just as I\u2019m running, he jumps. His sneakers crash on my head, and together, we collide into the ground. His elbow is shattered, and I am paralyzed from the neck down. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim: <\/strong>Kate, one minute you\u2019re running around, dodging kids,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> \u2014playing tag. The next moment, you\u2019re on the ground. Tell me what was going through your mind. What were you feeling? What were you sensing while you lay there on the playground? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> I knew, right away, something was just catastrophically wrong. I\u2019m trying to move; I can\u2019t move. I\u2019m lying on my back in the woodchips. I never lost consciousness. I sensed that there are kids kind of pressing around me, and I hear one of the little girls screaming for the boy to get off of me. He\u2019s screaming that his arm is broken. I didn\u2019t even know he was on me, so I immediately know something is terribly wrong. Pretty soon, after they whisked the boy off of me into the office, there was a teacher at my side. I can tell by her expression, too, that something is not\u2014this is not good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe begins to pray. I, too, am just\u2014I\u2019m praying, pretty quickly, \u201cPlease; please, Lord, do not let me be paralyzed,\u201d because I know, as much as I want to, I cannot\u2014I can\u2019t move anything. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> So you were attempting to move your arms\/your legs? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> I think my brain was attempting\u2014yes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> \u2014to, but there\u2019s nothing happening. I\u2019m just stuck. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> They take you to the hospital; they perform an MRI. What were the results? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> That there\u2019s obvious injury from the MRI. My spinal cord has been crushed and lacerated. They need to do emergency surgery. He tells us, \u201cWe are looking for someone who is willing and able to perform this operation.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen the surgeon\u2014when they do find this surgeon and he arrives\u2014he\u2019s quite honest with us. He tells us: \u201cThis is a Christopher Reeve-level injury. It\u2019s dangerously high, and it\u2019s very serious.\u201d For us, we have a pretty vivid image of the once-strong, six-foot-and-some actor, who was confined to a power wheelchair. That name immediately gives us a real sense of the seriousness of what is happening. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Tell me what was going through your mind. Where did your heart go when you heard those words? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Katherine:<\/strong> When I was in the MRI\u2014that\u2019s a long process\u2014I remember being pretty calm and praying persistently. I\u2019m thinking: \u201cLord, I want to hug my children. I want to braid my daughter\u2019s hair. I want to run alongside them\u201d\u2014just very much\u2014\u201cLord, please, let this cup pass from me. I don\u2019t want this cup.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I get the results that it is, what in the back of my mind I\u2019m thinking that it is, it is a\u2014it\u2019s a blow\u2014it\u2019s an additional blow. But I\u2019m not\u2014I\u2019m not hopeless; I\u2019m not hysterical. I\u2019m still very much\u2014maybe a little bit in shock and thinking, \u201cOkay; so then the next step is surgery.\u201d <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen I was wheeled in for a very long journey of where they were going to cut the front of my neck open\u2014remove the broken fragments. He told them that they needed to then fuse together things back together with some hardware and some donor bone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> When you heard what the procedure would be like, did the doctor express any hope that possibly you would be able to walk again? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> You know, he was a realist, I think. I think paralysis is not really for the faint of heart. He was very much honest. When he came to my family and friends, who were in the waiting room after the surgery, he told them, \u201cI\u2019m pretty sure she\u2019s going to come off of the ventilator that we inserted for surgery; and beyond that, hope is discouraged.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> \u201cHope is discouraged.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Your family has, literally, been told not to hope\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> Correct. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> \u2014in your recovery. You\u2019re in the room\u2014and I don\u2019t know that you have given up hope. After surgery, describe for me what it was like to begin the recovery process. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> Yes; you\u2019re absolutely right\u2014I hadn\u2019t given up hope. I belong to a strong Savior, who does the impossible\/who does work that doctors can\u2019t do. I haven\u2019t\u2014I\u2019m very much\u2014I\u2019m very much living in that moment of: \u201cI believe. Help my unbelief.\u201d That\u2019s kind of a down-beat of my day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat\u2019s lovely, Kim, is\u2014I have people around me, who are also hoping. That\u2019s the beauty of Christian community, where\u2014even when you feel like you can\u2019t\u2014in some situations, when you\u2019re faltering, you have people around you who can buoy you and hope for you\u2014I have both of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the really, I think, just both painful and precious moments that my husband would remember or he would say\u2014there was this moment, where my daughter comes to him; and she says, \u201cIs it okay that I prayed that Mom can walk?\u201d She\u2019s heard the words from the doctor\u2019s mouth that: \u201cShe\u2019s not getting out of bed on her own. She\u2019s never going to walk again. Life as you know it is changed\u2014is over. 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For example, sometimes, I\u2019ll hear people say things like, \u201cI\u2019m so thankful for cancer.\u201d Well, I\u2019m not thankful for cancer!\u2014cancer is <em>horrible<\/em>; cancer is <em>death<\/em>. I\u2019m thankful for <em>Jesus Christ<\/em>, who is life, and light, and who is the One who can <em>use<\/em> horrible things to produce good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGod is <em>most definitely<\/em> good; and He can use those very, very painful things in our lives\u2014that He also hates. He can use those things to produce beauty, and goodness, and just\u2014He writes amazing stories. We don\u2019t need to call evil good, but we need to be thankful for the One who is good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> \u2014and the One who is walking with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> Amen! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Were you always able to sense the presence of the Lord? Was there ever a time, after the accident, where you felt abandoned or you wondered where He was? Or was your faith unshakable from the very beginning? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> There were definitely times, where I just felt like: \u201cLord, do You see me? Do You see me?\u201d I think that, even still today, we go through times, where we just\u2014we doubt, and we just wonder, \u201cLord, do You see me?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYes; I think in\u2014that\u2019s, again, like those moments, where it\u2019s not our grip that\u2019s so sure\u2014it\u2019s <em>His<\/em> grip that is sure. I\u2019m thankful for that, so glad that He\u2019s not counting on me. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> My pastor once, recently, said, \u201cGod does everything, and we do something.\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cYes; okay; I\u2019m going to do my little something, but the Lord has me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> \u201cHe has me, and no one can snatch us out of His hands.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> There were times when your faith or, possibly,\u2014please correct me if I am wrong\u2014that hope that you would walk again [was] challenged. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m going to talk about a couple of scenarios. The first one was when you were driving your power wheelchair down the corridor and someone stopped you. They asked you a question that <em>really<\/em> took you off guard. Tell me: \u201cWhat was that question?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> I\u2019m using my power wheelchair on my way to therapy, and this woman stops me. She says, \u201cAre you a quadriplegic?\u201d I didn\u2019t even know how to answer that; I just was kind of <em>stunned<\/em>. Quite honestly, no one had said those words to me\u2014not even the doctors. It\u2019s the first time I\u2019ve actually heard the words, and I\u2019m a little bit stunned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, I asked my therapist, \u201cAm I a quadriplegic?\u201d She said, \u201cYes.\u201d It\u2019s just this crazy moment, where I\u2019m thinking, \u201cWhat are you talking about?\u201d It\u2019s the first time I\u2019ve heard the words, and they do <em>not<\/em> sound good to my ears. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> No; not at all. Then there is another instance. Your son makes a comment. What did he say, and how did that affect you? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> Yes; one of our favorite things\u2014my kids would come in the evening, and we\u2019d all have dinner together. Then, they would love to drive my wheelchair really fast down the hallways. He\u2019s sitting on my lap, and he\u2019s driving the power-wheelchair. We do\u2014we reach this end, and we see this sign. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s kind of contemplating it: \u201cHandicap,\u201d and he says, \u201cMom, are you handicapped?\u201d Before I can even answer, he\u2019s like, \u201cOh, wait; you\u2019re a quad.\u201d It was like the breath just went out of me, and I\u2019m trying to hold it together. I know I didn\u2019t say anything to him, and he just kind of kept going. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen he left, I remember someone has helped me get back into my bed. I had this sweet nursing assistant. She came in; and I just <em>wept<\/em>: \u201cI don\u2019t want to be a quad. I don\u2019t want my kids to think of me as a quad. These are words that are painful and <em>not<\/em> good.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Through it all, you said you were not afflicted with the question, \u201cWhy me?\u201d However, you said you were harassed, at times, by the question, \u201cWhy?\u201d From your perspective, what\u2019s the difference between \u201cWhy me?\u201d and \u201cWhy?\u201d Is one or the other more acceptable? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> I didn\u2019t say, \u201cWhy me?\u201d because I had been in so many good churches, where we had talked about pain and suffering; and this is a part of the Christian life. You don\u2019t get by without having a cross to pick up. Jesus Christ tells us to pick up our cross. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI wasn\u2019t actually surprised that I was in pain and that something <em>terrible<\/em> had happened to <em>me<\/em>; but I was wondering, at times, about, \u201cWhy?\u201d It doesn\u2019t throw the Lord off guard when we ask those questions; okay? [Laughter] I mean, the Psalms are full of them; I <em>love<\/em> the Psalms. It\u2019s just honesty; He already <em>knows<\/em> what we\u2019re feeling in our hearts\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> \u2014so we might as well just utter it right back to Him. We can ask those questions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tButt we also notice in the Psalms is they\u2019ll ask that; but then, they\u2019ll always return to <em>who<\/em> the Lord is. What\u2019s important is\u2014when we ask that question and, then, we\u2014in the end, we remind ourselves, \u201cBut this is who You are.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kim:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katherine:<\/strong> We need to continually be confessing words of truth about Him\/singing words of truth about Him because we are so prone to forget. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYes; we can ask the questions; but if we just stick to the \u201cWhy?\u201d question, it\u2019s this maze that you will not get out of. It will\u2014it can really turn you inward. That\u2019s not really a good place to be\u2014just continually looking inward\u2014because you\u2019ll start to feel a lot of pity, and despair, and things like that. You need to turn your face back to Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, again, we\u2019ve been listening to a part of an interview that Kim Anthony did with Katherine Clark. I hate to even jump in here\u2014it\u2019s kind of like we just watched the first half of the movie; and we don\u2019t get to hear the rest of the movie. I\u2019ll just mention to our listeners\u2014you can hear the rest of this story when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com and download Episode 3 of Kim Anthony\u2019s new podcast, which is called <em>Unfavorable Odds<\/em>. You\u2019ll find the podcast information, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. This is a story you\u2019ll want to hear the rest of. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI tell you guys\u2014I was thinking, as I was listening\u2014something I\u2019ve reflected on, often, when I hear stories like this. The time to build a strong faith and trust in God is not when you find yourself in the middle of the valley. You build that strong faith and trust so that, when you wind up in the valley, you\u2019ve got a rock to stand on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> I remember being in my 20s, hearing Tony Evans say: \u201cYou never see them pouring the cement basement in a downpour rainstorm. You\u2019re always building your foundation when things are good.\u201d It\u2019s not easy to do that, but the story is inspiring. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> The truth of life is, as we\u2019ve just heard, every life will encounter a storm. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> It\u2019s coming\u2014it\u2019s not an easy thing to say. I\u2019ve preached this many times: \u201cYou are either in a storm, you\u2019ve just come out of a storm, or you\u2019re headed into one,\u201d\u2014which is not fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere is the truth of what we just heard\u2014you\u2019re going to hear the rest of the story\u2014but it\u2019s like that storm can make you better or bitter. The choice is yours. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> The truth is: \u201cGod is in the storm.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014with you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ann:<\/strong> He\u2019s always there with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dave:<\/strong> But it\u2019s hard to always remember that in it, which is the journey we\u2019ve been on; but there is a God that can really make us better if we can come through that the way He wants us to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s clear that one of the reasons why Katherine was ready for that storm is because she had a walk with Jesus every day. When this happened, she knew right where to go\u2014you go to Jesus and say, \u201cOkay; what do we do now?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou said we can hear the rest of the story\u2014we can\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com and download Kim Anthony\u2019s entire conversation with Katherine Clark. Maybe, subscribe to Kim\u2019s podcast, which is called <em>Unfavorable Odds<\/em>. Information about subscribing or listening to today\u2019s interview with Katherine Clark are all available, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got copies of Katherine\u2019s book, <em>Where I End<\/em>, in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order the book from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call to order at 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me just say\u2014if you listen to the extended conversation that Kim had with Katherine Clark, she talks about how her surgeon eventually came to her and said: \u201cI can take no credit for what\u2019s happened here. God did this.\u201d She also talks about, eventually, seeing the boy who caused the accident and how she wound up processing her thoughts about that encounter. Again, that\u2019s all available on the extended podcast version of today\u2019s program. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we are hoping that all of you are taking some time this summer to get into shape. I\u2019m not talking about physical shape; although, that\u2019s good to do. I\u2019m talking about your marriage relationship\u2014relational shape. We have designed, here at FamilyLife, a series of workouts for couples that\u2014some of them are designed to build strength into your relationship; some are designed to get the heart racing\u2014you know, build cardio in your marriage relationship. We\u2019re calling this the \u201cStronger Forever Summer Workout Plan.\u201d You can sign up and receive it from us\u2014it\u2019s free. You can download the whole thing. We\u2019ll send you regular prompts to keep you going during the plan. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s the kicker on this. One of you, who signs up to get the information and participate in the \u201cStronger Forever Summer Workout\u201d schedule\u2014we\u2019re going to draw your name, and you\u2019ll be our guests on the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage cruise, Valentine\u2019s week of 2020. We\u2019ll cover the cost of airfare for you and your spouse, your stateroom costs, and we\u2019ll put you up in the hotel the night before the cruise\u2014again, no purchase necessary to enter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe contest began on July 1; it ends on August 30. The official rules can be found at FamilyLife.com\/StrongerForever. Sign up there for the summer workout. One couple that signs up will be joining us on the <em>Love Like You Mean It<\/em> marriage cruise in 2020. Find out more; go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Strengthen your marriage during the summer months; and then, it\u2019ll feel like summer in February when you\u2019re on the cruise with us, Valentine\u2019s week of 2020. Again, all the information about the workout plan and the cruise are available, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you have a great weekend this weekend. I hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church, and I hope you can join us on Monday. We\u2019ll introduce you to a couple, who had a very difficult start to their marriage. Their first three or four years were very hard, and they\u2019ll explain why on Monday; but they\u2019ll also talk about how they learned that the only foundation for a struggling marriage is for you to be anchored in the right stuff. You\u2019ll meet Aaron and Jennifer Smith Monday, and I hope you can be with us for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our hosts, Dave and Ann Wilson, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae <\/sup>Ministry. Help for today. 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