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She also\u00a0tells the story of how her husband, Benji, proposed\u00a0and how\u00a0her daughters were able to witness it.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2017-12-20.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>As a single mother, a parent to 13 adopted children, Katie Davis Majors was surprised when a young man, also living in Uganda, began pursuing her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>He asked me out twice; and it was in the middle of, I think, just a hard season for me personally. Both times I said, \u201cNo\u201d; and the second time, I really said like, <em>firmly<\/em>, \u201cNo\u201d\u2014like, \u201cHey,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u201cDon\u2019t ask again now.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cI hope we can still be friends; but if we can\u2019t, it\u2019s <em>okay<\/em>. We <em>can\u2019t<\/em>\u2014we can\u2019t do that. No. No; thank you.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, December 20<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. How Katie Majors went from a firm \u201cNo,\u201d to becoming Mrs. Benji Majors\u2014we\u2019ll hear that story today. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I want to meet Benji Majors sometime; don\u2019t you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I do!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I mean, I just want to meet the guy who was persistent and met a determined young woman and was determined to win her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want to hear the story of whether or not he went to Uganda in search of Katie Davis, author of <em>Kisses from Katie<\/em>. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m just curious about Benji. You told us earlier that there was a guy who was living out in the house behind your house. You called Benji and said, \u201cWould you want to come disciple him?\u201d\u00a0 Benji said, \u201cSure.\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m thinking: \u201cYes; Benji wanted to take you out. I would have come and discipled him and say, \u2018I\u2019ll be there every day to disciple him if it gets me a little closer to you.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 Do you think that was in the back of his mind?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>At that point, no; I don\u2019t think so. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Are you sure though?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>No!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes; that was a hesitant yes. So, yes; I think that\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong><strong>\u00a0 <\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, Katie is the author of a new book, <em>Daring to Hope<\/em>. She is now married. She is a mom of 14\u201413 of whom\u2014a baker\u2019s dozen of Ugandan little girls, who are becoming, even against Katie\u2019s will, young ladies. They are growing up\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. Isn\u2019t that true?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014growing up on her here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to ask you my favorite question, but I\u2019m going to ask you to wait to answer it\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014until the end of the broadcast. Here is my question: \u201cWhat\u2019s the most courageous thing you\u2019ve ever done in all of your life?\u201d\u00a0 Now, don\u2019t answer right now\u2014I\u2019m going to give you a moment to think about it\u2014but courage is doing your duty in the face of fear. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve got a sneaking suspicion, because of your book, <em>Daring to Hope<\/em>, that you\u2019ve got a definition or two that comes from your book that you\u2019d share with our listeners; but to get there, what I want to first have you do is tell us about the woman who had five children, who was dying of TB and HIV, who came to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHer name was Katherine. Tell our listeners <em>that<\/em> story of how you cared for her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Katherine came to live with us when she became very ill. Her five children, under the age of ten, were sponsored by Amazima; so we were paying for their school. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay; let\u2019s just stop here. Amazima is an organization you run in Uganda. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. We\u2014our goal is really to disciple families and to empower the families to stay together. About 80 percent of children in institutions in East Africa actually have one living parent; and they end up institutionalized just due to financial poverty. Their parents cannot afford to pay for them to go to school, or to pay for their medical care, or to pay for their food; so they send them to these institutions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat was something that was very shocking to me the first year that I lived in Uganda, and I really desired to try to change the system. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThrough financial sponsorship of school fees, and some food, and some basic medical provision, Amazima works to keep these children with their biological family members; but of course, the heartbeat of our organization is really that, in doing that, we would form a relationship with these families and lead them to Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Katherine was one of those moms who had experienced the care of your organization. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes; so we were in relationship with her and had known her for a few years through her children; and she just got sicker and sicker to the point where she wasn\u2019t really able to take care of her children very well. She moved over to our house so that I could help her out with her children and, also, because our house is very close to the local hospital, and she needed a little more immediate access to medical care. We were just down the street from the doctor she was seeing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey lived with us for several months. I truly, really, believed that God was going to heal her of her illness\u2014that she would become healthy and strong again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had imagined it in my head\u2014the happy ending, where she would move out with her children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe always throw a bit of a celebration for people who have lived with us for a season and get to move out on their own again. We\u2019ve had many families, especially struggling single mothers, live with us over the years. We always have a big celebration when they become well, or they finally find a job, or their child is finally healthy enough, and they can move out. I really thought that that would be the case with Katherine and her family as well; and she did get better for some time, but then she began to deteriorate very quickly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She passed away. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>She did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You compared your experience to the prophet Habakkuk and how he had to deal with some disappointments as well. You learned through that disappointment that there isn\u2019t always a happy ending to the story\u2014but in this case, there was a happy ending to the story because\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014she went to heaven. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes; absolutely. That\u2019s what Habakkuk says\u2014right?\u2014that though the olive crop fails, though the leaves wither, though there are no sheep in the pen\u2014basically, even if I can\u2019t <em>see<\/em> it, still I will hope \/ still I will rejoice in God my Savior. I felt like that was something God was teaching me in a season where I had really thought we would see it\u2014we would see a happy ending where she stayed alive. God showed me\u2014still I can rejoice, even though things didn\u2019t go my way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I remember discovering that verse when our children were teenagers. They were starting to kind of press the limits a little bit and push back on us. I discovered that verse, and I thought, \u201cThis is a perfect verse for a mother\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cof children of all ages; but especially, teenagers.\u201d\u00a0 I think the oldest was only 15 at the time; but I remember, when I read that, I just hung on to that because I thought: \u201cLord, there is no guarantee\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cthat all the best parenting, all the prayer\u2014none of that guarantees that my children will choose You, they will choose to live a good life, they will be responsible \/ they\u2019ll be productive. They\u2019re no guarantees. It could all fail. It could all be gone. Will I trust You if You do that?\u201d\u00a0 It was a real turning point in my life; because I said, \u201cOkay; God, I will. I will choose to believe You even if none of my children flourish \/ there is no green on the vine.\u201d\u00a0 <br><br><strong>Katie: <\/strong>And isn\u2019t that the hardest part of parenting\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014is just that moment when you realize, \u201cEven if I do everything perfectly,\u201d\u2014which I\u2019m not\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Which we\u2019re not\u2014none of us do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cbut even if I did,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cthere is <em>no<\/em> guarantee\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>None. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cthere is going to be any fruit here. There\u2019s no guarantee that these\u2014that they are going to choose Christ in their own lives, and they have to choose it for themselves.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s the scariest part of it for sure!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes; exactly, because it\u2019s not something that we can do for them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Bryan Loritts, who is a pastor in Northern California, who is a part of <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em> video series that\u2019s coming out before long, makes the observation: \u201cGod is a perfect Father. God has rebellious children.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes; lots of rebellious children. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, think about that\u2014here\u2019s a <em>perfect<\/em> Father with rebel kids. Why should we think that we, as imperfect parents, will be spared a little rebellion in our home?\u2014right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No doubt about it. Just as Barbara was talking about, we have learned a bunch about God\u2019s love for us as we have loved our kids and watched them struggle in their faith, from time to time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKatie, I know from reading your book that you have learned a lot about the love of God through the 14 children that you have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Oh, absolutely; because even\u2014you know, as a parent, you see so clearly that, even when you are disciplining your children, it\u2019s not out of this place of anger toward them or hatred toward them\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014it\u2019s out of such this place of love and a desire for good things to come in their lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think I\u2019ve understood so much more that\u2014when God disciplines me in my own life, when God tells me to go in a direction that I don\u2019t really feel like I want to go, or when God even brings me through a difficult time\u2014it is His <em>love<\/em> that does that to shape me, to change me, to teach me; because He wants good things for me. I think, as parents, when we <em>feel<\/em> that love for our children, we can see it so much more clearly from God\u2019s vantage point. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; I really agree. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKatie, before we get too far away from the story of Katherine, who died, and her five children\u2014what happened to those five?\u00a0 Did you adopt them?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>I didn\u2019t. They did stay with us for a little while, immediately following her death. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, we placed them with a biological aunt, who they lived with for some time; but that situation was never really good. The aunt was very young, and she was also struggling. She didn\u2019t have any biological children, so she had never parented before; and the children were really suffering there with her. We would provide food, and we would drive out there to visit them; but it just never seemed to be a good situation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was just getting desperate, just praying, asking the Lord what I should do. I mean, the idea of having five more children come to my house was a lot. At the same time, I was <em>not<\/em> clearly seeing another option. They were a sibling set of five\u2014like there aren\u2019t many families that are willing to take that on, even in the foster care system. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had gone to visit my friend, Rose. Before I started talking, she said, \u201cYou know, my daughter Helen\u201d\u2014who had been a good friend of my daughters and was in and out of our house a lot\u2014she said: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cMy daughter told me about what happened to the mom of those kids. I\u2019m so sorry. God\u2019s just put it on my heart to really pray for them; but also, just to ask you: \u2018Is there anything they need?\u2014even, maybe, do they need a place to go?\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, I like start to weep and just said: \u201cOh, I can\u2019t even tell you\u2014that has been on my heart all week. I\u2019ve been praying.\u201d\u00a0 I was even just telling a good friend of mine earlier that same day\u2014like, \u201cI do not know what we\u2019re going to do for these children, but I feel like\u2014I told their mom, before she died, that I would make sure they were okay. It feels like a lot of responsibility.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRose and I talked for several more hours that day about what it would mean for her to start fostering them. About a month later, we went through all the paperwork process; and social workers visited with both families. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAbout a month later, we are able to help move Katherine\u2019s five children into Rose\u2019s home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, I just marvel at your acts of courage to care for Katherine as she died, to care for her children after she died, and also your courage in developing a relationship with a young man called Benji. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; you talked about how unusual it is for somebody to take five kids in as foster kids. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>That is a little ironic; isn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes; it is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>How unusual is it for a young man to say, \u201cI\u2019m going to be the husband to a mom of 13?!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes; it\u2019s not usual. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>It\u2019s not normal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, he asked you out twice before you said, \u201cYes.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>He did. He asked me out a couple of times; and both times, I said, \u201cNo.\u201d\u00a0 The second time, I really said, like <em>firmly<\/em>, \u201cNo,\u201d\u2014like, \u201cHey,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Like \u201cDon\u2019t-ask-again\u201d no?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00 <\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cI hope we can still be friends; but if we can\u2019t, it\u2019s <em>okay<\/em>.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It was a \u201cDear John.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u201cWe can\u2019t do that. I\u2019m\u2014no. No; thank you.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, then, really, after that, I think I got to watch his heart on display a lot more; because I trusted that he wasn\u2019t going to ask me again. He was very respectful in that\u2014he didn\u2019t really come over as much after that. He was still discipling the man that lived in the back of our yard, but he would come\u2014he would go straight to Mack. He would spend his time with him, and he would leave. He would not come say, \u201cHello,\u201d to me \/ he would not try to make conversation. I mean, I felt very respected in that\u2014that he didn\u2019t. He heard what I said, and he didn\u2019t push the boundaries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI got to watch him and his <em>heart<\/em> for people, and for service, and truly for the gospel through that. He was also attending this large Bible study that we all went to on Wednesday nights. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe often led worship or even led the teaching at that Bible study. I was just\u2014I was so attracted to his heart for the Lord. I was telling my good friend, like: \u201cOh my gosh. I think I like him; but now, I can\u2019t tell him; because he\u2019s never going to ask\u2014he\u2019s not going to ask me out again. There is <em>no<\/em> hope.\u201d\u00a0 So, I did\u2014I had to call him and ask him if he would come over for coffee; and he said, \u201cNo.\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>He didn\u2019t want to risk it again; huh?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Well, yes!\u00a0 I mean, I had said so\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014clearly that I didn\u2019t want to date him. What was he going to be doing having coffee with me?\u00a0 Why would you have coffee with a young, single female that wasn\u2019t going to date you?\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 So, I had to beg and plead a little bit, you know: \u201cPlease, I need to talk to you about something important. Can you come?\u00a0 Can we just\u2014can we just have a cup of coffee?\u201d\u00a0 So, he finally said, \u201cYes.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh no!\u00a0 You\u2019ve got to say\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>And he said?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes?\u2014what happened over the cup of coffee?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Well, then, I was so nervous. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI made like dumb small talk the whole time; right?\u00a0 So, after about an hour, he\u2019s looking at his watch; and he\u2019s like\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>\u201cOkay?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cOkay; well, this was nice. I think I\u2019m going to go.\u201d\u00a0 So, then, I just kind of blurted out some words that probably didn\u2019t even make sense\u2014like: \u201cYou know, I was thinking \/ I was wondering if, maybe\u2014do you want to like\u2014we could spend more time together, you know, intentionally; you know?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Real coherent; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Right; exactly. He\u2019s just kind of looking at me; and finally, he said, \u201cLike\u2014like dating?\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cWell, yes.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cOkay; I\u2019m going to pray about that,\u201d and he left!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He didn\u2019t go for the bait!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>What I didn\u2019t know, at the time\u2014which is amazingly the Lord\u2019s provision and just further confirmation that we both really were trying to seek after Him\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014was that he had been in conversation, earlier that week, with some of his supporters in the States about whether or not his time in Uganda was coming to a close. He felt like he had pretty effectively discipled these 30 men. They were all kind of going out into the world and starting churches and discipling other young men. He felt like: \u201cOkay; I could kind of take under my wing another group,\u201d or \u201cI could just keep in touch with this group via Skype and internet. Maybe, my time here is coming to a close.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe had been in conversation with people about whether or not he was moving back when he got my phone call asking him to come to coffee. What I didn\u2019t know, when he said he needed to pray about this, was this was a much bigger decision than \u201cAm I going to date this girl?\u201d\u00a0 This was a decision for him of: \u201cIs there more of life for me in Uganda right now?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And so, how long did you date?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Probably, almost a year from that point until we got engaged; and then, we were engaged for about eight months. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Time out. How did he propose?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>It was so sweet. He actually\u2014he\u2019s such a good dad\u2014he took all the girls out for ice cream earlier in the week. He just said to me like\u2014and he would do this sometimes\u2014he would say: \u201cI\u2019m going to take the girls out to eat,\u201d or \u201cI\u2019m going to take them down to the river to play for a little bit so that you can get some quiet.\u201d He had taken the girls out for ice cream and took them over to his house, actually, and sat them all down and said: \u201cI would like to propose to your mom. What do you think about that?\u201d\u00a0 They all gave feedback; and then, he let them help him plan how he would propose to me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Barbara: <\/strong>That\u2019s so sweet!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>He showed them the ring, and he let them\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>So sweet. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014he let it be a family affair, which I just loved that he knew my heart well enough to know that I would have felt like something was missing if they hadn\u2019t been a part of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tActually, our best friends came to babysit the girls; and he took me back over to his place. There was a picnic laid out\u2014his yard is kind of right on the edge of the lake that we live nearby\u2014and he proposed. Then, as soon as I said, \u201cYes,\u201d all our girls came running out of the bushes. They had watched the <em>whole<\/em> thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Oh how sweet!\u00a0 Oh, I love it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>They were so <em>excited<\/em>, and they had picked flowers. They were throwing them on us\u2014it was so sweet. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>So, did anybody capture any photos of that\u2014I hope?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I\u2019m just thinking, \u201cOh, I wish I could have seen that.\u201d\u00a0 It just sounds delightful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Great video. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>I know!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Even just a few still photographs. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>It was so dark, but it\u2019s like seared in my memory forever!\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I\u2019m sure it is; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, back to my original question, at the beginning of the broadcast: \u201cKatie Davis Majors, what\u2019s the most courageous thing you\u2019ve ever done in all your life?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>That is a hard question, but I think\u2014I think the most courageous thing that I have ever done is to trust God when I can\u2019t see what He\u2019s doing. I don\u2019t think that\u2019s a courage that has come from me. I think that God, Himself, has allowed me the grace to continue to trust Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think that that\u2019s the most courageous thing that any of us can do\u2014is to continue to put our hope and our trust in God, even when we don\u2019t really feel like it. He has shown me that that hope does not disappoint me because, even when I don\u2019t get what I want, I get more of Him\u2014I get to know Him more \/ I get to know sides of Him that I wouldn\u2019t have known if I hadn\u2019t scooted up next to Him like that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, you\u2019re saying, even if the olive tree is barren\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and the leaves are withering\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014to say, \u201cI\u2019m still going to trust Him.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s where real courage comes from. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>I think that that is real courage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>As you were talking, I couldn\u2019t help but think of this passage in Romans, Chapter 5. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>I love this one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cMore than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>\u2014\u201chope.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201chope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God\u2019s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>God in you\u2014changing you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Great answer to the question. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Katie: <\/strong>Thanks. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and there is a lot of courage that shows up in the book that you\u2019ve written called <em>Daring to Hope<\/em>. It\u2019s a book that tells the story of how God has been with you in the midst of suffering \/ how you\u2019ve seen His goodness in the brokenness of where you live and work. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would encourage our listeners: Get a copy of Katie\u2019s book, <em>Daring to Hope<\/em>. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to order at 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, one of the things that, Dennis, both you and I love to hear are stories of redemption\u2014people whose lives were broken \/ headed in the wrong direction\u2014they were in the ditch, as you like to say\u2014and God intervenes and turns them in a new direction and points them in a new direction\u2014turns their whole life around. Recently, we got a chance to meet with a number of listeners, who said <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> was a part of their redemption story.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSome of the stories we heard were just remarkable. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was sitting there, thinking, \u201cI wish our Legacy Partners \/ I wish the folks who help support this ministry could be here with us, hearing these stories, because that\u2019s what you\u2019re giving to when you support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\u201d\u00a0 You\u2019re helping us reach more people more regularly with practical biblical help and hope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd here, as 2017 is drawing to a close, I know some of you are thinking about possible yearend donations to ministries like ours. There is a special opportunity for you to give over the next couple of weeks\u2014it\u2019s a matching-gift fund that\u2019s been established for this ministry. Michelle Hill is here with details on how we\u2019re doing with that matching-gift fund. Hi, Michelle!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Hey Bob\u2026well by now many folks have heard that the match fund has more than doubled (<em>it\u2019s now 4.3 million dollars<\/em>) but the real important number is <strong>one<\/strong>, as in that <strong><em>one<\/em><\/strong> person listening right now and deciding to give\u2026and maybe <strong><em>you\u2019re<\/em><\/strong> that one? \uf04a\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean really Bob, the match <strong>is<\/strong>going to be met one gift at a time\u2026and so far over five thousand people <strong><em>have <\/em><\/strong>made that decision. So, thanks to each <strong>one<\/strong>\u2026like Don from Canton, Ohio? Today we\u2019re at NINE HUNDRED SEVENTY ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS...which is great! BUT\u2026if we\u2019re going to take full advantage of the match, we\u2019ll need a lot of other <strong><em>ones<\/em><\/strong> to pray and then give as God leads.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and if you\u2019d like to be a part of helping us take full advantage of the matching gift, you can make a donation today, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call to donate\u20141-800-358-6329 is the number\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY\u201d; or you can mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBox 7111, Little Rock, AR; our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd if you haven\u2019t sent us a Christmas card yet, send a Christmas card and just tuck something inside; okay?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I hope you can join us back again tomorrow when we\u2019re going to hear a conversation we had, not long ago, with our friends, Don and Sally Meredith. This is a remarkable couple who God used in a significant way to help birth the ministry of FamilyLife all the way back in 1976. I hope you can tune in and meet our friends, Don and Sally Meredith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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