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It\u2019s not a political mission\u2014it\u2019s a mission to see our sons and daughters grow up and become functional adults. Here he is\u2014talking about it on CBS television. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>It\u2019s about us, the parents and the grandparents, who are not doing enough to help our kids understand that scar tissue is something to be celebrated. Developing a work ethic\u2014it often stinks and aches and is painful at the time you are going through it, but it makes you <em>tougher<\/em>. Scar tissue is the basis for future character. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we\u2019re not having those conversations with our kids, and that\u2019s kind of a unique thing in human history. We\u2019ve raised our kids insulated from work. They\u2019ve grown up sort of being protected from work instead of being taught that there is freedom to be found in finding meaning in work, not avoiding work. Right now, production and consumption are categories that most of them don\u2019t really experience when they\u2019re 12 and 14 and 16\u2014the way most people in human history in the past would have. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, November 15<sup>th<\/sup>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. This is a special edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We\u2019re live from the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC. Our guest is Nebraska Senator Ben Sasse, and we\u2019ll talk about your kids becoming adults. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Wednesday edition\u2014a very special Wednesday edition because we\u2019re not where we usually are. I just need to tell you\u2014I\u2019ve got a little bit of a bone to pick with our guest today. Before we get to that, though, share with everybody where we\u2019re recording these programs; will you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We are at the Museum of the Bible\u2014the grand opening. I\u2019m looking over my left shoulder at the Capitol; and if I look far enough back, <em>way<\/em> over my left shoulder, I can see the Washington Memorial back there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Pretty amazing place\u2014and this museum is <em>spectacular<\/em>!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It is spectacular. We\u2019re celebrating a 430,000-square foot museum that declares the best-selling book in the history of the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Now, can I tell you about what my bone-pick\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, here\u2019s\u2014our audience knows this, Ben; you don\u2019t know this about Bob\u2014but he finds fresh ways to offend our guests, right off. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Really?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Now, I know you are not used to people coming at you hard\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Bob seems like a really nice man. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Here\u2019s the deal\u2014our guest is very active on Twitter; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Sometimes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; well, so, I was listening in to NPR about six months ago when he was on their program, <em>Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!<\/em>\u00a0 I tweeted that day; and I said, \u201cSenator Ben Sasse is holding his own with Peter Sagal doing a great job on this.\u201d\u00a0 I kept waiting for a like, or a retweet, or something\u2014nothing!\u2014zero!\u00a0 Now, I know I\u2019m no Jonah Goldberg; right?\u00a0 But\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m looking over his shoulder at his assistant. His assistant is making note of this right now. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. I expect a little\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I bet the next tweet you make is going to be\u2014he\u2019s going to be on it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I expect a little Twitter love!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>I will find a way to love your passion on Twitter. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, Senator Ben Sasse joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome, Ben. I hope you\u2019ll stay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>I\u2019m delighted to be here. Thank you for your ministry; my family has benefitted from it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019re right\u2014what a glorious venue!\u00a0 This is a <em>great<\/em> museum. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It really is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBen is a fifth generation Nebraskan. He is married to Melissa \/ three children\u2014was a wrestler at Harvard\u2014didn\u2019t go for the academics\u2014he went to wrestle, because they lowered the standards of how you could get in. [Laughter] He couldn\u2019t make the Cornhusker wrestling team\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Now, wait!\u00a0 Who is insulting who?\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>He\u2019s just telling the truth. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m just saying what he wrote in his book\u2014so, you know, <em>he<\/em> declared it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>I couldn\u2019t play sports for the Huskers or the Razorbacks. So, I had to go someplace where they had really, really\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh, now, you could have played for the Razorbacks. [Laughter] Now, you\u2019re hitting us \/ you\u2019re hitting us back. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe went to Oxford and then graduated from Yale with a PhD and has written a book called <em>The Vanishing American Adult: Our Coming-of-Age Crisis\u2014and How to Rebuild a Culture of Self-Reliance<\/em>. Ben, what prompted you\u2014I know you were a president of a college in the Midwest\u2014was that experience what prompted you to write this book?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>I think more than anything else but two others feed in too. I think we have <em>goofy<\/em> politics right now, where so much of what\u2019s really important in American life is in culture, upstream from politics. Our politic discussions are pretending you can fix politics with more politics\u2014that\u2019s <em>not<\/em> true. So, that was a little bit of my motive. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut also, my wife and I are parents\u2014we have three little kids. We look at the world they are coming of age in; and we think about the friends that we deliberate, and pray with, and wrestle with about how to raise our kids. It feels like there is a big desire out there for people to have conversation about how to parent well, and there aren\u2019t a lot of venues for that to happen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYour program is one of the special exceptions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, we\u2019re about to launch a brand-new initiative. In fact, it is the <em>largest<\/em> initiative in our 41-year history\u2014the parenting initiative. It\u2019s going to be launched with the movie that Bob\u2019s helped create called <em>Like Arrows<\/em>, which is a movie about parenting. It is accompanied with a training package that\u2019s going to be available, online, next summer called <em>The Art of Parenting<\/em>. This is an all-out effort\u2014we are going to launch it, initially, in Spanish and Mandarin, as well as, obviously, English. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Wonderful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, we\u2019re hoping for a <em>million<\/em> parents in the next three years in the top three languages of the world. We\u2019ve got our finger on the same pulse you do. We\u2019ve got to equip parents because the next generation is on the line; don\u2019t you agree?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>I do. It is the most important calling we all have. As believers, we\u2019re parenting and pastoring the first church of the home and trying to catechize and raise our kids to become adults that can live lives of gratitude to God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You see the home as more primary to how we do, as a culture, than where you\u2019re serving, vocationally, in the United States Senate; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Exponentially more important; right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Unpack that a little bit; because I think a lot of us look around and go: \u201cPower is in Washington. What happens here is what shapes our lives.\u201d\u00a0 But we believe that what happens around the kitchen table shapes things more than what happens in Washington. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Hear; hear!\u00a0 I mean, people are created in the image of God; and in a fallen world, we need government to restrain evil. There are all sorts of important public policy functions around infrastructure investment, and providing for the common defense, and national security\u2014there are lots of very meaningful callings that happen inside this city. But the first institution of life\u2014not just American life but Adamic life\u2014is going back to the place where two become one and produce eternal souls that are going to serve their neighbors forever and glorify the God who is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Is that perspective generally lost in our society today\u2014that family is and must be strong for a civilization to survive?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>I think we have a hollowing out of local community. When the most fundamental institution is the family\u2014it is being thrown about by the same tides that are undermining so much of local community and culture. People understandably worry about that and panic about that; but then, they sort of look to distant powers to solve that problem. The right way to <em>begin<\/em> solving the problem is to do what you\u2019re called to do and raise your kids properly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Ben, I sat in a White House briefing room 25 years ago. There was presentation after presentation made by the way the federal government was addressing the needs of people around our nation, back then. As I sat there, it started to hit me how many of those programs, policies, and budgets were built around, basically, the dysfunction and the destruction of a family unit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we knew how to do marriage and family right, many of those programs\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014would go away!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We need, today, a fresh return to a moral and spiritual awakening, <em>rooted<\/em> in the American family, where moms and dads realize\u2014like Bob said\u2014they are the power-brokers. They are raising the next generation that we\u2019re going to turn our factories over to that are going to provide the culture for the next generation for the nation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Tomorrow\u2019s workers, and tomorrow\u2019s soldiers, and tomorrow\u2019s neighbors, and tomorrow\u2019s entrepreneurs, and tomorrow\u2019s moms and dads are those kids that your listeners are shepherding today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCharles Murray, I think\u2014over at the American Enterprise Institute\u2014has a great line about what government is for\u2014he says, \u201cGovernment is supposed to take the difficulty out of doing certain things; but we don\u2019t want the government to take the difficulty out of doing everything; because some things that are difficult create scar tissue, which is the foundation of future character.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want the government to take the difficulty out of walking home from a restaurant, late at night, because you shouldn\u2019t be subjected to violence just because you\u2019re walking on a dark street at night. Government should take the danger, and the problem, and the challenge out of walking home, late at night, in terms of violence. But government should <em>not<\/em> solve the problem of how to deal with the fact that my six-year-old was throwing up in the middle of the night two weeks ago. My wife and I need to go through those struggles at three a.m. together\u2014both, to be co-laborers together. You know, she often believes that I\u2019m not pulling my share [Laughter] at the moment that I say, \u201cLet me take the kid and get him into the shower,\u201d\u2014and somehow, the pile of vomit that is left\u2014we just have to divide up that labor. But it\u2019s also about the fact that our kid sees us there, holding him in that minute of trial. We don\u2019t want government to come in and <em>displace<\/em> everything that needs to be done by families. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Share how your dad and your mom\u2014the images that you have imbedded in your heart and soul and mind of how they did that for you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Yes; so, I think the one thing that\u2019s just fundamentally true about the moral architecture that I have, you know, echoing through my head, as a child, is: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u201cMy parents are flawed, flawed sinners,\u201d\u2014like we all are\u2014\u201cbut I <em>always<\/em> knew that they were there for me. There was <em>never<\/em> a chance that Dad <em>wouldn\u2019t<\/em> be there when I was in a time of need or that Mom <em>wouldn\u2019t<\/em> be there when I was in a time of need.\u201d\u00a0 Mom\u2019s touch and Dad\u2019s voice are still prominent in my memory. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tUnfortunately, my parents, actually\u2014I\u2019m the product of a divorce. My parents divorced before I was two, and both had remarried by the time I was four and started wrestling through all the hard stuff of\u2014they\u2019re both believers now and have wrestled through a lot of those issues; but I come from a very imperfect, broken background with two families that are loving. I went back and forth, from age four on, between these two houses. They, ultimately, kind of came together and repented to me, as their kid, about some of the stuff that had gone wrong earlier. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We have a ministry to blended families as a part of FamilyLife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat you\u2019re pointing out is that, when blended families can come back around and address with their kids\u2014\u201cThese were the issues... Here\u2019s what we did... Here\u2019s what was right\u2026; here\u2019s what was wrong... Here\u2019s where we messed up\u2026\u201d\u2014that course correction can be just as powerful in the life of a child as if a family had stayed intact. Kids, who grow up in broken homes, where they see moms and dads working out some of the past difficulties\u2014that can lay a great foundation for them, going forward. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>That opportunity for reconciliation becomes a model of us, recognizing that we have delegated authority from God as we\u2019re raising our kids; but eventually, our kids are not just going to be our dependents and our offspring\u2014they are going to become brothers and sisters before eternity. One of the most fundamental things that my wife and I want to be sure we\u2019re doing right by our kids is we want them to see us repenting to each other and to <em>them<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; I\u2019m glad you shared what you shared; because what you described\u2014you said your dad and mom said they would be there for you; and yet, they divorced when you were two. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey weren\u2019t believers \/ didn\u2019t know Jesus Christ. I understand why that happens\u2014I really do. Still, they were able to provide a redemptive model. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA lot of our listeners\u2014well, I\u2019d say this\u2014<em>all<\/em> of our listeners come from broken situations. A listener, talking to me, recently, says, \u201cYou know, too many of your shows end with a perfect story. Do you realize where we\u2019re living out here?\u201d\u00a0 I thought, \u201cYou know, we all are living there.\u201d We share a lot of how things are broken; but it <em>is<\/em> good to give people hope that, in the midst of brokenness, you can have a situation\u2014like where you bragged on your mom and dad. You said, \u201cYou know, do I wish they had stayed together?\u201d\u00a0 Undoubtedly, you do; but nonetheless, in the midst of that brokenness, they were able to communicate something that was very powerful to you that you, now, are passing on to your kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, if I were to sit in front of you a group of young parents and ask you to tell them what you observe as the gaps\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014the biggest areas where parents today are not connecting the way they should with their kids\u2014could you name the top three, four, five?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Let me not answer, \u201cYes,\u201d yet; because I have three, four, five\u2014but I don\u2019t know if I\u2019ve got them ranked\/ordered the right way\u2014but let me tell you one of the things I\u2019d start with for them. We live in an <em>extraordinary<\/em> time with lots and lots of blessings. We live at the richest time and place in all of human history. There are lots of people who are going through bumps, and there have been economic downturns since 2008, et cetera; but we still live at the richest time and place in human history. There is a lot that is wonderful about that. There is a lot that passively happens that lead us to drift and not recognize that our kids don\u2019t have a lot of necessity in their lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThroughout almost all of human history\u2014hunter\/gatherers; agrarianism from 11,000 years ago until the Industrial Revolution\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014the last 150 years of the factory world and the rise of cities\u2014in <em>all<\/em> of these contexts, there have <em>always<\/em> been a bunch of needs that the family had that the kids had to contribute to, as recently as 1870\u2014so, at the end of the U.S. Civil War. Most economic historians estimate that children under the age of 14 added more than 30 percent of the economic value to their household. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Wow!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Kids that were prepubescent back then\u2014puberty comes a little earlier now\u2014but it used to be sort of a marker at about age 14. More than 30 percent of the value of the household was from <em>kids<\/em>.\u00a0 Kids have <em>always<\/em> grown up, throughout most of human history, as they went from 8 to 10 to 12 to 14\u2014not primarily with job choice and specialized career choice\u2014but with doing more of what mom and dad, and grandma and grandpa, and aunts and uncles did to contribute to the community and to the tribe. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat we have <em>now<\/em> are kids who largely come of age without a distinction in their belly between production and consumption. They just have progression through years and grades in school and lots and lots of consumer experiences outside of school. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s actually not good for their souls\u2014to not learn how they develop their potential and their giftedness to serve their neighbor. We\u2019re not helping our kids learn how to be producers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>They need to de-tassel corn in the summer; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Hear, hear!\u00a0 Foundation of character. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and be bean walkers; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Unfortunately, chemicals have almost made bean walking and weeding big bean fields obsolete\u2014[Laughter]\u2014that\u2019s the first job I ever had as an eight-year-old. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And there is something about eight-year-olds being bean walkers\u2014there\u2019s some hardship and some struggle that is good for an eight-year-old\u2019s soul. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong><em>Great<\/em> for a soul. I mean\u2014your parents, or your aunts and uncles, or whoever was managing that farm could look out at the field, afterwards, and know if you did your work; because\u2014those in your audience who haven\u2019t been around crop rotation\u2014usually, beans are following corn by year. So, there\u2019s volunteer corn growing in those fields from last year\u2014just leftover stuff. As it grows, it\u2019s much taller than the beans. You can see as far as the eye can that there is a bunch of corn out there that needs to be hoed out of those fields. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAn eight-year-old can add real value; and a mom and a dad can see, from a distance, whether they\u2019ve gotten their work done. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And if the air conditioning goes out\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Good! [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014and your kids need to learn that air conditioning is a relatively new luxury; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Yes!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This happened at your house?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Yes; it isn\u2019t just production versus consumption\u2014it\u2019s <em>needs<\/em> versus <em>wants<\/em>. We want our kids to understand the distinction between their true needs, and you need to meet your needs\u2014right? \u2014we don\u2019t want our kids going to sleep hungry at night, but I don\u2019t want to meet all of my kids\u2019 wants. I want them to learn to <em>limit<\/em> and defer gratification. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe live in Nebraska, which has huge temperature fluctuations from our winter to our summer. My family and I had been in Colorado for some events the summer before last when I was kind of working on this book. In the middle of the night\u2014our daughters are now 16 and 13, and our boy is 6\u2014our daughters, then, were 14 and 11. They came to my wife and my room in the middle of the night\u2014getting back from Colorado\u2014where our air conditioner had gone out. It was a 75 degree night\u2014I mean, it wasn\u2019t hot. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey came to our room, and they thought they couldn\u2019t conceivably sleep in this house because they <em>needed<\/em> air conditioning. I thought: \u201cOh my, we\u2019re doing some stuff wrong here. What you <em>need<\/em> is for us to turn off the air conditioning for the next month when it hits 100\u2014that\u2019s what you <em>need<\/em>.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Talk to a listener, who is going to a toy store with their kid or they\u2019re walking through Walmart<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, and the kid sees something he <em>wants<\/em>. You have a way of addressing that with your children that I really like. Explain how you kind of unpack that decision. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>I don\u2019t want this to sound too heavy-handed\u2014but we want to meet all of their <em>needs<\/em>, and we want them to learn how to help meet their needs and meet their neighbor\u2019s needs; but we want to meet a very <em>small number<\/em> of their wants, and we want them to understand that category. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSometimes, if they want something, we\u2019re going to give them the thing that they want; but if they ever begin referring to a want as a need, we promise them, out of love for them: \u201cWe\u2019ll never do that.\u201d If my six-year-old boy sees something at the Walmart or the Target<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2014\u201cI <em>need<\/em> that,\u201d and the right word was \u201cYou <em>want<\/em> that,\u201d\u2014[Laughter]\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014I get down on my knees so we are eye to eye\u2014and I explain to him that those verbs are different things. He just had bad grammar right there; [Laughter] so there isn\u2019t any chance we\u2019re going to get this thing now that he <em>wanted<\/em> but he referred to as a need. As it turns out, he\u2019s coming to love those grammar lessons. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>He is learning to curb\u2014he\u2019ll start to say, \u201cI really nee\u2026 \/ nee\u2026 \/ nee\u2026\u201d\u2014[Laughter]\u2014catch; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>We have some\u2014he does\u2014and we have some friends who are wonderful; but wanted their kids to be grateful for whatever food is put on the table, because it\u2019s going to meet their needs. They can learn to have appetites that desire these good things, even if it was Brussel sprouts and broccoli, and you didn\u2019t know it the first time. Their kids are <em>never<\/em> allowed to say they don\u2019t like food. They can refer to certain categories of food as not their favorite [Laughter]: \u201cBrussel sprouts are not my favorite.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019ve got\u2014some twins, and that\u2019s one of their favorite sayings: \u201c<em>Not<\/em> my favorite,\u201d \u201c<em>Not<\/em> my favorite.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>How do your kids like growing up in your house?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>We do a strange thing. I\u2019m one of five people in the Senate who has never been a politician, and I think I\u2019m the only commuter \/ family commuter in the Senate. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are senators who commute, but their families are left behind. We primarily live in Nebraska. The family is out here for a little bit of the year; but when I\u2019m out here, coming out to work Monday through Friday, I often bring a kid with me. They have different responsibilities when they are on the road with Dad versus when they are back home with Mom. Two of the three are usually with her on weekdays, and one travels with me. We kind of homeschool\/hybrid school. So, they have chores they have to do here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What are the ages of your kids?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Sixteen, thirteen, and six. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And all of these rules and all of these grammar lessons and everything\u2014do you get kids, who roll their eyes and who say: \u201cThis is not fair!\u00a0 My friends\u2026\u201d\u2014this and that?\u00a0 Does that go on in the home?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>Oh, absolutely. I mean, to be clear\u2014we are <em>not<\/em> setting ourselves up as a model with this parenting book at all. We stumble and fall <em>every<\/em> single day in our house, but we have a theory of what we\u2019re <em>trying<\/em> to accomplish. Along with lots of other friends, we wanted to sort of deliberate and write this book on: \u201cWhat is the problem of perpetual adolescence?\u00a0 What is this thing that is developing among us?\u201d because you can\u2019t tackle a problem unless you can name it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd then, constructively: \u201cWhat are some habits we want to have our kids form?\u201d This book is an attempt to outline some of those habit-formation constructive opportunities. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And when you\u2019re raising three kids, whose last name is Sasse\u2014you just set yourself up; didn\u2019t you?\u2014I mean, it\u2019s built into their DNA. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ben: <\/strong>They are\u2014they are sassy way too often; yes. [Laughter] Unfortunately, the German name is just [German pronunciation] \u201cSasse\u201d or \u201cSass\u201d; but they\u2019re regularly corrected for their sassiness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, here is what I would say to parents, who are listening to us today: \u201cIf you are really interested in being countercultural, in the truest sense of that word, I\u2019d encourage you to get a copy of Ben\u2019s book, <em>The Vanishing American Adult<\/em>, and just sit and soak in it \/ read your way through it.\u201d It\u2019s going to affect the way you think. You are going to be\u2014you\u2019re going to find yourself looking at your children through a different set of lenses, because the culture that surrounds them is an entitlement culture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTheir friends are entitled to all of these things, and it\u2019s easy for our kids to be conformed to that same thought process. What Ben\u2019s going to do is challenge your way of thinking, letting you peek behind the curtain into his growing up and into, also, [him] and Melissa as they are raising their brood of three. I think it\u2019s going to benefit you in innumerable ways. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We have copies of Senator Sasse\u2019s book, <em>The Vanishing American Adult<\/em>. If you\u2019d like to get a copy, go to FamilyLifeToday.com. You can order it from us, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call, if you\u2019d like to order: 1-800-FL-TODAY. This really is a <em>great<\/em> adjustment book for moms and dads. It will help you think differently about what you are doing and think about how you can bring some healthy challenge and struggle into your kids\u2019 lives. Again, the title is <em>The Vanishing American<\/em> <em>Adult:<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Our Coming-of-Age Crisis\u2014and How to Rebuild a Culture of Self-Reliance<\/em>. Order the book, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call to order: 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, as we think about the next generation and the challenges our kids are facing today, our goal, here, at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is to provide husbands and wives and moms and dads with practical biblical help and hope so that we can flourish as families \/ so that your marriage and your family can thrive. For that to happen, you need to understand God\u2019s design \/ God\u2019s purposes for marriage and family. You need to understand the impact of the Bible on marriage and family as we\u2019re broadcasting, live, this week from the Museum of the Bible. Our goal, here, is to effectively develop godly marriages and families. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re grateful for those of you, who share our passion for this and who are partners in this goal. Every time you donate to support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, you\u2019re helping us reach more people, more regularly, with the kind of practical biblical help that we seek to offer on this program. So, \u201cThanks,\u201d to those of you who are regular, monthly Legacy Partners. We\u2019re grateful for your partnership with us. \u201cThanks,\u201d to those of you who will occasionally make an online donation or get in touch with us to donate. Your donations cover the lion\u2019s share of the expenses necessary to operate this ministry\u2014our daily radio program, our website, our resources, and our events. And we\u2019re grateful for those of you who do reach out to help. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you are a regular listener \/ a long-time listener, and you\u2019ve never made a donation, it\u2019s easy to do. You can go online to donate at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to donate; or mail your donation to us at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTomorrow, we\u2019re going to continue our conversation with Senator Ben Sasse as we\u2019re broadcasting live this week from the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC. We\u2019ll talk more about how we can raise kids who have good problem-solving skills and good critical-thinking skills. 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