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He says it\u2019s got to be the right kind of fear of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>It\u2019s not an immobilizing fear\u2014it\u2019s a healthy fear. I think you live out your view of God every single day; right?\u00a0 So, if you have a high view of God, you should have a high standard of living. If you have a low view of God, it\u2019s probably going to produce a lower standard of living. So, it\u2019s a right perspective\u2014a lofty view of God\u2014that, honestly, is the single greatest aid to my personal and progressive sanctification\u2014is the healthy fear of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, August 16<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey; and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Teaching our children to have a healthy respect for and reverence for God is one of the important things we need to keep in mind as we\u2019re raising them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ll talk about more things today with our guest, Dan Dumas. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. You\u2019ve said for years that moms and dads need to be aiming their sons and daughters in a direction as they pull back the bow and get ready for the release. I\u2019m just watching, in the culture today, a lot of people who are being released; and they\u2019re not sure where they\u2019re supposed to go next. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No. If you\u2019re kind of wondering where to aim your sons and\u2014as far as that goes, your daughters as well\u2014our guest today has got some thoughts for you about living smart. Dan Dumas joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Dan, welcome to the broadcast. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Thank you\u2014privilege to be here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And as a listener, I want you to get your seatbelt on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis guy is loaded with lots of great advice, not only for raising kids, but also for helping men become the man God made them to be. Dan has been married to Jane for 25 years. They have two children\u2014live in Louisville. He is the newly-created czar for adoption and foster care for the state of Kentucky. Explain to our listeners what you\u2019ve been tasked with by the governor of Kentucky. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; I\u2019ve been asked to, basically, cut the red tape that has piled up over the years\u2014in particular, answering to the governor of Kentucky\u2014Governor Matt Bevin. The czar\u2019s position is to make sure that our kids find either great foster homes or great forever homes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I want you to just explain that, as a follower of Christ, one of the reasons you want to do this is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you want to call the church into action; because it\u2019s the only organization, really, in the world that can address the needs of orphans, globally. And here, in America, some 400,000 children in the foster care system\u2014it [the church] is the only one, large enough, here, as well; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Absolutely. It is certainly the largest of a multi-pronged strategy. I think it\u2019s the church\u2019s responsibility. For the church, it\u2019s missiological\u2014they\u2019re called to this\u2014you have James 1:27 \/ going back in the Old Testament: Isaiah 1:17. So, it\u2019s missiological. It is the church\u2019s responsibility, ultimately, \u201c\u2026to care for the orphans and the widows\u201d\u2014also in the text\u2014\u201cand keep themselves unspotted from the world.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>So, for a gospel guide to call the church out and call them up to respond\u2014I think, that\u2019s a large part of our strategy in Kentucky, where we want to be the gold standard for foster care and adoption. Hopefully, as we get our own house in order, we\u2019ll replicate it across all other states\u2014all of the 50 states. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I want to encourage our listeners to pray for Dan as he engages this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is going to be a big endeavor. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to go back and kind of get the narrative of your life and how you met Christ. You grew up as a PK; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; pagan\u2019s kid\u2014[Laughter]\u2014pagan\u2019s kid. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Not a pastor\u2019s kid?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>No; not a pastor\u2019s kid. I always tell people I\u2019m a PK: \u201cI\u2019m a pagan\u2019s kid.\u201d\u00a0 I grew up as a Roman Catholic boy. I wasn\u2019t converted until I was in the United States Navy and 21 years old. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>A church-going family?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>No; well, Easter and Christmas; but I wouldn\u2019t call it church-going. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And God, as an issue in the family, was left out?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>There would be in that air of structures. You know, we\u2019d pray before we\u2019d go to bed \/ we\u2019d pray over a meal\u2014but apart from that, there would be a big void. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, how did you come to faith as you were entering into the armed services?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; I was\u2014it was 1986. <em>Top Gun<\/em> had come out. I was at the beach, playing volleyball; and we saw a couple of gals go by\u2014they were beautiful \/ we pursued them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tUnbeknownst to us, they were believers; and they shared the gospel with us. It took me about six months from that point there. Two of the other guys with us\u2014they converted the next day\u2014the following Sunday \/ it was a Saturday\u2014the following Sunday, they went to church and gave their lives to Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was just the hard-to-get guy. So, I would have been the guy you\u2019d thought, \u201cHe will never ever come to Christ.\u201d\u00a0 I was kind of empty. I was doing the bar scene and a lot of partying\u2014typical military \/ young, single military guy. There was just a lot of emptiness there. They prayed \/ they came over\u2014they would play cards with us. They would do activities and just kind of hang out. Just over the course of time, the emptiness got deeper, and darker, and darker, and darker. Eventually, God just\u2014I felt the calling of the Spirit\u2014felt the full weight of my sin. I was just <em>heavy<\/em> with sin; and then, I gave my life to Christ on June 22, 1986. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You surrendered?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Totally surrendered. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>See, there are listeners, right now, who are identifying with how you described your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey may not know what conversion looks like; but it is giving up and giving in and surrendering to the King of kings \/ the Lord of lords, Jesus Christ, who was on this planet\u2014lived a perfect life, died on a cross, defeated death, and today is seated at the right hand of God. Because of that, He can offer you eternal life. That\u2019s who changed your life; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Absolutely. I repented, and I believed. Then, as 2 Corinthians 5:17 states, \u201cTherefore, if any man be in Christ, they\u2019re a new creation. Old things are passed away. All things become new.\u201d\u00a0 And literally, my life was new. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>How did that go over with other Navy guys who had been partying with you up until that day?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Well, yes; it was\u2014and part of it was\u2014I was the ringleader of the partiers \/ I was kind of the guy behind the party\u2014kind of organizing the parties. So, everything kind of got slow; and I immediately started displaying my faith. As I flew with a helmet, I put \u201cJesus saves\u201d on the helmet to be a witness; you know?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Really?!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Then, I started sharing on the mic-system on a helicopter. You had to have helmets on \/ you could talk to each other on the intercom. I started sharing the gospel. So, I got pulled up to captain\u2019s mast to be considered for some punishment; but they just said, \u201cKnock it off.\u201d\u00a0 And we saw many\u2014probably, four or five\u2014other sailors in our squadron convert to Christ. It was a really unique time that God was working in those people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was a transformed life\u2014it was like the Gadarene demoniac. I was <em>crazy<\/em>\u2014you know, sophisticated sinner\u2014but still crazy; and then, all of a sudden, I gave my life to Christ. As a matter of fact, my mom and dad, at the time, called Cult Awareness. They thought I\u2019d joined a cult and sent them to visit me in Jacksonville, Florida. That\u2019s how crazy I was \/ [Laughter] that\u2019s how insane it was. It was such a dramatic transformation. Even like reading\u2014I don\u2019t even remember reading in high school. I was into athletics and just being outdoors. All of a sudden, I craved reading. I wanted to read the Scriptures. I\u2019d never read it before, and it was coming alive\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014it was a living book to me. So, I just like\u2014just changed my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Part of the reason that you have such a passion for young men to have an aim \/ to know what their living for is because, before you were 21, you didn\u2019t have much; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>I didn\u2019t have anything. Yes; that\u2019s part of the story of this book\u2014is that I never went to a Christian camp; I never went to a youth group; I never went to a Wednesday night service\u2014I never went <em>anywhere<\/em>; so I didn\u2019t live intentionally. That\u2019s what\u2019s behind this book\u2014is to have our young people live intentional. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI never had any influences \/ any mentors. Yes; my parents are awesome\u2014they are kind, but they weren\u2019t people of faith. So, they didn\u2019t talk to us about that. You know, we got in trouble if we did something wrong. There was clear discipline and instruction going on, but it wasn\u2019t rooted in Scripture\u2014it wasn\u2019t biblical instruction. It was just them doing the best they could, as parents, at the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Was your life all about living for the moment, or was it about\u2014did you have goals?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cSomeday, I want to do this,\u201d \/ \u201cSomeday, I want to be this.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>No; because, you know, most of my family was raised: \u201cYou\u2019ll go to college.\u201d\u00a0 It was kind of baked into the family; but with me, I was the black sheep. So, I went into the military. I didn\u2019t even go in as an officer\u2014I went in as an enlisted. I wanted to see the world. I really went in, partly\u2014I remember this process\u2014I went in, thinking, \u201cI don\u2019t want people telling me what to do.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, \u201cI\u2019m going to join the military.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s a good place to go; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; so, it was\u2014it was quite a\u2014it was a steep learning curve; you know?\u00a0 So, I\u2019m not the sharpest knife in the drawer; but I figured out real quick. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You did something that I think had to be ordered by God \/ driven by the Spirit of God\u2014He led you to a mentor who began to coach you and began to fill in some of the gaps you had missed, as a young man, growing up. You say, \u201cFor young men today, that\u2019s where they need to be starting as well.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; that\u2019s a <em>huge<\/em>\u2014a huge piece of the puzzle. For me, I was supposed to go to Rota, Spain; and then, the Spaniards took over the SAR\u2014the Search and Rescue. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey said, \u201cWell, you can stay in Jacksonville; you can go to Whidbey Island; or you can go to Key West.\u201d\u00a0 I didn\u2019t want to go to the other two. I was kind of three hours away from home at the time. I thought, \u201cWell, this would be close enough to get home if I need to,\u201d\u2014I stayed there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSix months later, I get saved. Then, immediately, I meet this guy by the name of Tommy Mallard; and he just takes me under his wing\u2014highly intentional guy\u2014very intense discipler, constantly correcting anything you did that he felt like was not wise or unorthodox. He would just correct us. He was just an awesome guy. So, I\u2019m a product of mentorship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You didn\u2019t pursue him. He\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Well, it was little bit of both. I mean, he was open to that kind of thing. I was\u2014even though I was converted, I didn\u2019t know my way \/ I didn\u2019t know my way around the Scriptures. I didn\u2019t know my way around just instincts or culture. It was just all so brand new. I just went to him and said, \u201cLook, if you have some time, is there a way I can come by and chat and kind of learn?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t even have the vocabulary for \u201cDisciple me\u201d; but at that time, I just said, \u201c\u2026spend some time with you.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cI\u2019d love to.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is one thing that changed the trajectory of my life. I said, \u201cWell, how do I get to know the Lord in a closer, deeper way?\u2014kind of in a Philippians 3:10 way: \u201cthat I may know Him\u201d; right?\u2014<em>epigin\u014dsk\u014d<\/em>\u2014deep knowledge of Him. He said, \u201cYou get up\u2014every morning, you get up at five, and you listen to this guy on the radio on WROS, \u2018The Rose of Jacksonville.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>That guy ended up being John MacArthur. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>He said: \u201cYou listen to him for 30 minutes. Then, you read your New Testament\u2014three chapters a day\u2014you\u2019ll read it in three months if you do that. You\u2019ll read three chapters a day. You read three chapters in the Old Testament a day. You pray 30 minutes; and then, you read one of these little white study guides,\u201d\u2014which ended up being John MacArthur\u2019s study guides. You know, the little\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; sure.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>\u2014old school\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>So, he said, \u201cYou do that package,\u201d\u2014well, if you think about that package, that\u2019s about <em>two hours<\/em>. So, I just did it because he said to do it\u2014so, I did it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI assumed everybody in the college ministry\u2014all three hundred\u2014were doing the same program. I\u2019d show up at meetings and I\u2019d say, \u201cWhere are you at in the New Testament?\u201d\u00a0 They\u2019d say: \u201cWhat?\u00a0 What do you mean?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cLike where are you at in your reading?\u00a0 Did you read those three chapters today?\u00a0 You should be in Colossians. We\u2019re doing Colossians 1 over to 3 today; right?\u201d\u00a0 They\u2019re looking at me, like: \u201cYou are bizarre!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo\u2014but he immersed me in the Scriptures and around solid teaching \/ you know, sound doctrine. I think that accelerated my personal sanctification. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This was spiritual boot camp that he put you in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Literally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You had the sergeants yelling at you on one side \/ you had Tommy on the other end, who was\u2014he had a pretty good regiment\u2014a spiritual workout for you every morning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; and he would correct us. I can remember places on the road, where\u2014I got sideways, one night, with some girls. I kind of was snarky, and yelling, and stupid; I popped off. He didn\u2019t say anything in front of her, but we got in the car to go to make a visit for someone who had visited the church. We made it about a half mile down the road, and he pulls off in the dirt. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m thinking, \u201cWhy are we pulling off in the dirt?\u201d\u00a0 He lit into me\u2014he said: \u201cYou don\u2019t talk to girls like that. You\u2019ll never talk to them like that. When you get back, you\u2019re going to apologize for that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cFaithful are the wounds of a friend;\u201d right?\u00a0 True friends stab you in the front \/ they don\u2019t stab you in the back. You always saw\u2014with Tommy, you always saw the knife coming. He just got you. [Laughter]\u00a0 So, I was just\u2014all of that is kind of in this chapter on mentoring in the book, because it\u2019s a big part of who I am. I feel like I\u2019m a product\u2014or I\u2019m a marked man\u2014when it comes to mentoring. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He did something with you that got you into the book\u2014the Bible, obviously\u2014as you started taking this two-hour package every morning; and you list these out in your book\u2014a list of descriptions about what the Scriptures became to you. What I want you to do is just take us through it real quickly, and you just quickly describe how the Scriptures are this for you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, the first one you say is: \u201cThe Scriptures became my guide.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; I\u2014when you\u2019re making decisions\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014I would go to the Scriptures first and seek what the Lord wanted me to do. Tommy said, \u201cLook, prayer is you talking to God \/ the Scriptures are God talking to you.\u201d\u00a0 So, I would look to the Scriptures as a guide. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So: \u201cThe Scriptures are your treasure.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; that\u2019s why it was a priority of my day. That\u2019s how I started my day and sort of how we ended the day. He always kind of said, \u201cYou want to fall asleep kind of in the Word \/ kind of maturating on the Word;\u201d you know?\u2014the meditation. \u201cHow does a young man keep his life clean and pure?\u201d\u2014Psalm 119; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>By meditating on the Scriptures\u2014so, it was my treasure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>This next one fits: \u201cThe Scriptures are my protection.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Totally\u2014keep you from sin. Sin will keep you from this book, or this book will keep you from sin. The book really kind of thwarted my sinful patterns. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cThe Scriptures are my authority.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Final saying\u2014always has the final say in my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cThe Scriptures are my revealer.\u201d\u00a0 I thought this was interesting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; as you grow in the Lord\u2014one thing I thought\u2014like after I got rid of the big sins, I was like: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u201cOkay; this is\u2014I\u2019ve kind of got these out the way. I\u2019m kind of pretty holy.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 Then, I realized: \u201cWow!\u00a0 No; God\u2019s going to continue to\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I had a moment like that, you know, probably, 40\/50 years ago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; nuancing comes; you know?\u00a0 Now, I\u2019m dealing with stuff that I would\u2014those big sins were like layups; okay?\u00a0 I can stop doing that\u2014the easy stuff. Now, it\u2019s like I am dealing with nuance kind of stuff and always kind of having to think through new areas that He reveals to my life and points out every single day: \u201cOkay; that\u2019s immature\u201d still. Now, I\u2019m like 29 years the other side of this thing, and I\u2019m still dealing with some of the besetting sins as Hebrews 12 talks about. I\u2019m still wrangling and wrestling with this stuff\u2014it\u2019s crazy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And \u201cThe Scriptures are my food.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; substance. Yes, absolute substance\u20141 Peter 2:1-3\u2014you know: \u201cAs a newborn baby craves milk...\u201d\u00a0 He always taught us: \u201cListen, you\u2019ll never outgrow this craving for the Word of God. It will feed you.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It\u2019s what you need to grow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>If you\u2019re not in it, you\u2019re not going to grow. Ultimately, this fed your concept of who God is; and you start your book talking about the fear of God which, Bob knows, is kind of one of my anchor points as well\u2014attempting to live my life in the presence of God. Explain to our listeners how you apply the fear of God to your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; in particular, it\u2019s not an immobilizing fear \/ it\u2019s a healthy fear. I think you live out your view of God every single day; right?\u00a0 So, if you have a high view of God, you should have a high standard of living. If you have a low view of God, it\u2019s probably going to produce a lower standard of living. So, for me, cultivating a healthy fear of God is\u2014it\u2019s a healthy perspective on who God is\u2014He is lofty, and we\u2019re not. He has attributes that we\u2019ll never attain to. He\u2019s utterly distinct and exclusive. I just think it\u2019s a posture\u2014a healthy posture\u2014a lot like parenting in some sense. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKids should have a healthy fear of you, as a dad or a mom; but it shouldn\u2019t immobilize them; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>It shouldn\u2019t shut them down. They should just find joy in that fear. So, it\u2019s a right perspective\u2014a lofty view of God\u2014that, honestly, is the single great aid to my personal and progressive sanctification\u2014is the healthy fear of God, because I have to step over the fear of God to sin. I have to say, \u201cWell, He can\u2019t see this,\u201d or \u201cI can hide this sin,\u201d or \u201cI can hold onto this sin.\u201d\u00a0 And of course, Psalm 139 just blows that to pieces; right?\u00a0 There\u2019s nowhere you can go \/ there\u2019s nowhere you can hide. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Dan, you really\u2014in writing this book and trying to provide guidance for young men, you could look back at how God had shaped, and intervened, and directed your life. If you think about the trajectory of your life, if there hadn\u2019t been God\u2019s intervention, where do you think you\u2019d be today?\u00a0 What would you be doing?\u00a0 What would you be living for?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhere would your life have taken you; do you think?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; that\u2019s a frightening question. I mean, I just think I\u2019d be consumed with myself. I mean, I was\u2014I was a sophisticated sinner. Meaning by that, I wouldn\u2019t go too far. I was always\u2014there was fearful\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You managed your sin appropriately. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Right. It was pronounced and, obviously, there; but I just kind of\u2014I was smart enough. I kind of navigated that space there. I don\u2019t know where I\u2019d be. I\u2019d be absolutely consumed with myself, and I think I\u2019d be reckless. I think I wouldn\u2019t have compassion on people and the vulnerable, in particular. Entitlement, I think, would mark my life. So, I think I\u2019d be a mess\u2014a hot mess. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Is it your hope that guys in high school \/ college are going to read this \/ go through it together with other guys?\u00a0 What\u2019s your desire for a book like this?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; there\u2019s a phrase that is etched into the stone fireplace at Red Arrow Camp\u2014I don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve ever been to Red Arrow Camp. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve not visited it myself, but I was told that it\u2019s in the fireplace there\u2014it says, \u201cIf you want to be a great man, start by being a great boy.\u201d This book is my heart expressed to young men and young women to be highly intentional. I kind of wrote it for middle school to millennials\u2014that\u2019s the kind of demography that I\u2019m aiming at, because I want to get them at a young age. I want them to be highly intentional and not to play life by chance. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things that marks this generation is they\u2019re just\u2014they\u2019re just throwing the dice. They are just playing it by chance, and they\u2019re not intentional. They\u2019re not living <em>smart<\/em>. Another word for smart is wise; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>It\u2019s got a Proverbs-esque feel to the whole book, and that\u2019s kind of what I\u2019m trying to capture there. So, I want to see young people be <em>highly<\/em> intentional\u2014to not leaving life to chance. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; the way you find life is get to know God and live your life under the authority, under the food, under the treasure of the Scripture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you do that, you\u2019ll look back, at the end of your life, and go: \u201cNo regrets.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara and I were talking last night\u2014she said, \u201cYou know, if we stopped doing what we\u2019re doing right now, I don\u2019t know what I would do; because I have been so used to being on a mission\u201d\u2014meaning the Great Commission\u2014\u201cbeing about leading people to Christ and discipling people.\u201d She said, \u201cI don\u2019t know what I would do.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I think young people today need to get into that mission. They need to know why they are here. They are not just random molecules. God went to the cross in the person of Jesus Christ to redeem you, not just from hell, but to redeem you from selfishness and give you His mission for your life. And I\u2019ve got to tell you\u2014after having attempted to live in or near that bull\u2019s eye for the last 50 years, it doesn\u2019t get any better than that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, I\u2019m thinking about parents, who have middle schoolers or high schoolers. You get a book like this and go through it, a chapter at a time\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014maybe, at the dinner table; or in the evening, part of family devotions; maybe, right before bed. The chapters are short. This\u2019ll provoke a lot of great conversations with you and your kids. The book is called <em>Live Smart: Preparing for the Future God Wants for You: <\/em>\u201cDon\u2019t waste this time in your life.\u201d\u00a0 Dan Dumas is the author, and we\u2019ve got copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order from us online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to get a copy of the book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThose of you who have thought about taking your middle schooler on a <em>Passport2Identity<\/em><sup>\u2122<\/sup> getaway, where you and your 13-\/14-\/15-year-old get away for a couple of days and listen to the <em>Passport2Identity<\/em> content\u2014this would be a great follow-up to your getaway time. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com to order the book, <em>Live Smart<\/em> by Dan Dumas; or if you need to order <em>Passport2Identity<\/em>, it\u2019s available online as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also order by phone\u20141-800-FL-TODAY is our number\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, our hope each day, as we prepare these programs, is that husbands and wives \/ moms and dads\u2014everybody in the family\u2014will find them helpful, practical, biblical\u2014something you can respond to and act on. We don\u2019t want this just to be something you listen to. We want it to be something that prompts you to live differently. Our goal is to effectively develop godly marriages and families. We believe those godly marriages and families will change the world, one home at a time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd if you\u2019re a regular listener, you need to know that there are other regular listeners who make this program possible for you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThose folks who donate, from time to time, or are Legacy Partners, who donate each month\u2014they are helping us extend the reach of this program to reach more and more people every month. In fact, we recently did some calculating and found that it costs about $8.25 to reach a thousand listeners. So, somebody who is donating $25 a month to support <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014you\u2019re making sure that 3,000 people, every month, get a chance to hear practical biblical help and hope for marriages and families. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd this month, there\u2019s a special incentive to make a donation. We\u2019ve had some friends of the ministry who have agreed that they will match every donation we receive, dollar for dollar, up to a total of $800,000. So, your donation will help us reach twice as many people this month. You can donate online at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY\u2014make a donation over the phone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR\u2014Arkansas is AR\u2014and our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we want to talk about some of the important lessons we need to make sure we are teaching our kids. Dan Dumas is going to be back with us again tomorrow. Hope you can be here as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with special help today from Mark Ramey. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back tomorrow for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; A Cru<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> Ministry. Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2017 FamilyLife. 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So, it\u2019s a right perspective\u2014a lofty view of God\u2014that, honestly, is the single greatest aid to my personal and progressive sanctification\u2014is the healthy fear of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, August 16<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey; and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Teaching our children to have a healthy respect for and reverence for God is one of the important things we need to keep in mind as we\u2019re raising them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ll talk about more things today with our guest, Dan Dumas. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. You\u2019ve said for years that moms and dads need to be aiming their sons and daughters in a direction as they pull back the bow and get ready for the release. I\u2019m just watching, in the culture today, a lot of people who are being released; and they\u2019re not sure where they\u2019re supposed to go next. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No. If you\u2019re kind of wondering where to aim your sons and\u2014as far as that goes, your daughters as well\u2014our guest today has got some thoughts for you about living smart. Dan Dumas joins us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Dan, welcome to the broadcast. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Thank you\u2014privilege to be here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And as a listener, I want you to get your seatbelt on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis guy is loaded with lots of great advice, not only for raising kids, but also for helping men become the man God made them to be. Dan has been married to Jane for 25 years. They have two children\u2014live in Louisville. He is the newly-created czar for adoption and foster care for the state of Kentucky. Explain to our listeners what you\u2019ve been tasked with by the governor of Kentucky. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; I\u2019ve been asked to, basically, cut the red tape that has piled up over the years\u2014in particular, answering to the governor of Kentucky\u2014Governor Matt Bevin. The czar\u2019s position is to make sure that our kids find either great foster homes or great forever homes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I want you to just explain that, as a follower of Christ, one of the reasons you want to do this is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you want to call the church into action; because it\u2019s the only organization, really, in the world that can address the needs of orphans, globally. And here, in America, some 400,000 children in the foster care system\u2014it [the church] is the only one, large enough, here, as well; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Absolutely. It is certainly the largest of a multi-pronged strategy. I think it\u2019s the church\u2019s responsibility. For the church, it\u2019s missiological\u2014they\u2019re called to this\u2014you have James 1:27 \/ going back in the Old Testament: Isaiah 1:17. So, it\u2019s missiological. It is the church\u2019s responsibility, ultimately, \u201c\u2026to care for the orphans and the widows\u201d\u2014also in the text\u2014\u201cand keep themselves unspotted from the world.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>So, for a gospel guide to call the church out and call them up to respond\u2014I think, that\u2019s a large part of our strategy in Kentucky, where we want to be the gold standard for foster care and adoption. Hopefully, as we get our own house in order, we\u2019ll replicate it across all other states\u2014all of the 50 states. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I want to encourage our listeners to pray for Dan as he engages this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is going to be a big endeavor. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to go back and kind of get the narrative of your life and how you met Christ. You grew up as a PK; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; pagan\u2019s kid\u2014[Laughter]\u2014pagan\u2019s kid. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Not a pastor\u2019s kid?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>No; not a pastor\u2019s kid. I always tell people I\u2019m a PK: \u201cI\u2019m a pagan\u2019s kid.\u201d\u00a0 I grew up as a Roman Catholic boy. I wasn\u2019t converted until I was in the United States Navy and 21 years old. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>A church-going family?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>No; well, Easter and Christmas; but I wouldn\u2019t call it church-going. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And God, as an issue in the family, was left out?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>There would be in that air of structures. You know, we\u2019d pray before we\u2019d go to bed \/ we\u2019d pray over a meal\u2014but apart from that, there would be a big void. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, how did you come to faith as you were entering into the armed services?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; I was\u2014it was 1986. <em>Top Gun<\/em> had come out. I was at the beach, playing volleyball; and we saw a couple of gals go by\u2014they were beautiful \/ we pursued them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tUnbeknownst to us, they were believers; and they shared the gospel with us. It took me about six months from that point there. Two of the other guys with us\u2014they converted the next day\u2014the following Sunday \/ it was a Saturday\u2014the following Sunday, they went to church and gave their lives to Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was just the hard-to-get guy. So, I would have been the guy you\u2019d thought, \u201cHe will never ever come to Christ.\u201d\u00a0 I was kind of empty. I was doing the bar scene and a lot of partying\u2014typical military \/ young, single military guy. There was just a lot of emptiness there. They prayed \/ they came over\u2014they would play cards with us. They would do activities and just kind of hang out. Just over the course of time, the emptiness got deeper, and darker, and darker, and darker. Eventually, God just\u2014I felt the calling of the Spirit\u2014felt the full weight of my sin. I was just <em>heavy<\/em> with sin; and then, I gave my life to Christ on June 22, 1986. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You surrendered?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Totally surrendered. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>See, there are listeners, right now, who are identifying with how you described your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey may not know what conversion looks like; but it is giving up and giving in and surrendering to the King of kings \/ the Lord of lords, Jesus Christ, who was on this planet\u2014lived a perfect life, died on a cross, defeated death, and today is seated at the right hand of God. Because of that, He can offer you eternal life. That\u2019s who changed your life; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Absolutely. I repented, and I believed. Then, as 2 Corinthians 5:17 states, \u201cTherefore, if any man be in Christ, they\u2019re a new creation. Old things are passed away. All things become new.\u201d\u00a0 And literally, my life was new. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>How did that go over with other Navy guys who had been partying with you up until that day?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Well, yes; it was\u2014and part of it was\u2014I was the ringleader of the partiers \/ I was kind of the guy behind the party\u2014kind of organizing the parties. So, everything kind of got slow; and I immediately started displaying my faith. As I flew with a helmet, I put \u201cJesus saves\u201d on the helmet to be a witness; you know?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Really?!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Then, I started sharing on the mic-system on a helicopter. You had to have helmets on \/ you could talk to each other on the intercom. I started sharing the gospel. So, I got pulled up to captain\u2019s mast to be considered for some punishment; but they just said, \u201cKnock it off.\u201d\u00a0 And we saw many\u2014probably, four or five\u2014other sailors in our squadron convert to Christ. It was a really unique time that God was working in those people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was a transformed life\u2014it was like the Gadarene demoniac. I was <em>crazy<\/em>\u2014you know, sophisticated sinner\u2014but still crazy; and then, all of a sudden, I gave my life to Christ. As a matter of fact, my mom and dad, at the time, called Cult Awareness. They thought I\u2019d joined a cult and sent them to visit me in Jacksonville, Florida. That\u2019s how crazy I was \/ [Laughter] that\u2019s how insane it was. It was such a dramatic transformation. Even like reading\u2014I don\u2019t even remember reading in high school. I was into athletics and just being outdoors. All of a sudden, I craved reading. I wanted to read the Scriptures. I\u2019d never read it before, and it was coming alive\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014it was a living book to me. So, I just like\u2014just changed my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Part of the reason that you have such a passion for young men to have an aim \/ to know what their living for is because, before you were 21, you didn\u2019t have much; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>I didn\u2019t have anything. Yes; that\u2019s part of the story of this book\u2014is that I never went to a Christian camp; I never went to a youth group; I never went to a Wednesday night service\u2014I never went <em>anywhere<\/em>; so I didn\u2019t live intentionally. That\u2019s what\u2019s behind this book\u2014is to have our young people live intentional. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI never had any influences \/ any mentors. Yes; my parents are awesome\u2014they are kind, but they weren\u2019t people of faith. So, they didn\u2019t talk to us about that. You know, we got in trouble if we did something wrong. There was clear discipline and instruction going on, but it wasn\u2019t rooted in Scripture\u2014it wasn\u2019t biblical instruction. It was just them doing the best they could, as parents, at the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Was your life all about living for the moment, or was it about\u2014did you have goals?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cSomeday, I want to do this,\u201d \/ \u201cSomeday, I want to be this.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>No; because, you know, most of my family was raised: \u201cYou\u2019ll go to college.\u201d\u00a0 It was kind of baked into the family; but with me, I was the black sheep. So, I went into the military. I didn\u2019t even go in as an officer\u2014I went in as an enlisted. I wanted to see the world. I really went in, partly\u2014I remember this process\u2014I went in, thinking, \u201cI don\u2019t want people telling me what to do.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, \u201cI\u2019m going to join the military.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s a good place to go; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; so, it was\u2014it was quite a\u2014it was a steep learning curve; you know?\u00a0 So, I\u2019m not the sharpest knife in the drawer; but I figured out real quick. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You did something that I think had to be ordered by God \/ driven by the Spirit of God\u2014He led you to a mentor who began to coach you and began to fill in some of the gaps you had missed, as a young man, growing up. You say, \u201cFor young men today, that\u2019s where they need to be starting as well.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; that\u2019s a <em>huge<\/em>\u2014a huge piece of the puzzle. For me, I was supposed to go to Rota, Spain; and then, the Spaniards took over the SAR\u2014the Search and Rescue. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey said, \u201cWell, you can stay in Jacksonville; you can go to Whidbey Island; or you can go to Key West.\u201d\u00a0 I didn\u2019t want to go to the other two. I was kind of three hours away from home at the time. I thought, \u201cWell, this would be close enough to get home if I need to,\u201d\u2014I stayed there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSix months later, I get saved. Then, immediately, I meet this guy by the name of Tommy Mallard; and he just takes me under his wing\u2014highly intentional guy\u2014very intense discipler, constantly correcting anything you did that he felt like was not wise or unorthodox. He would just correct us. He was just an awesome guy. So, I\u2019m a product of mentorship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You didn\u2019t pursue him. He\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Well, it was little bit of both. I mean, he was open to that kind of thing. I was\u2014even though I was converted, I didn\u2019t know my way \/ I didn\u2019t know my way around the Scriptures. I didn\u2019t know my way around just instincts or culture. It was just all so brand new. I just went to him and said, \u201cLook, if you have some time, is there a way I can come by and chat and kind of learn?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t even have the vocabulary for \u201cDisciple me\u201d; but at that time, I just said, \u201c\u2026spend some time with you.\u201d\u00a0 He said, \u201cI\u2019d love to.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is one thing that changed the trajectory of my life. I said, \u201cWell, how do I get to know the Lord in a closer, deeper way?\u2014kind of in a Philippians 3:10 way: \u201cthat I may know Him\u201d; right?\u2014<em>epigin\u014dsk\u014d<\/em>\u2014deep knowledge of Him. He said, \u201cYou get up\u2014every morning, you get up at five, and you listen to this guy on the radio on WROS, \u2018The Rose of Jacksonville.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>That guy ended up being John MacArthur. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>He said: \u201cYou listen to him for 30 minutes. Then, you read your New Testament\u2014three chapters a day\u2014you\u2019ll read it in three months if you do that. You\u2019ll read three chapters a day. You read three chapters in the Old Testament a day. You pray 30 minutes; and then, you read one of these little white study guides,\u201d\u2014which ended up being John MacArthur\u2019s study guides. You know, the little\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; sure.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>\u2014old school\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>So, he said, \u201cYou do that package,\u201d\u2014well, if you think about that package, that\u2019s about <em>two hours<\/em>. So, I just did it because he said to do it\u2014so, I did it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI assumed everybody in the college ministry\u2014all three hundred\u2014were doing the same program. I\u2019d show up at meetings and I\u2019d say, \u201cWhere are you at in the New Testament?\u201d\u00a0 They\u2019d say: \u201cWhat?\u00a0 What do you mean?\u201d\u00a0 \u201cLike where are you at in your reading?\u00a0 Did you read those three chapters today?\u00a0 You should be in Colossians. We\u2019re doing Colossians 1 over to 3 today; right?\u201d\u00a0 They\u2019re looking at me, like: \u201cYou are bizarre!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo\u2014but he immersed me in the Scriptures and around solid teaching \/ you know, sound doctrine. I think that accelerated my personal sanctification. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This was spiritual boot camp that he put you in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Literally. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You had the sergeants yelling at you on one side \/ you had Tommy on the other end, who was\u2014he had a pretty good regiment\u2014a spiritual workout for you every morning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; and he would correct us. I can remember places on the road, where\u2014I got sideways, one night, with some girls. I kind of was snarky, and yelling, and stupid; I popped off. He didn\u2019t say anything in front of her, but we got in the car to go to make a visit for someone who had visited the church. We made it about a half mile down the road, and he pulls off in the dirt. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m thinking, \u201cWhy are we pulling off in the dirt?\u201d\u00a0 He lit into me\u2014he said: \u201cYou don\u2019t talk to girls like that. You\u2019ll never talk to them like that. When you get back, you\u2019re going to apologize for that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cFaithful are the wounds of a friend;\u201d right?\u00a0 True friends stab you in the front \/ they don\u2019t stab you in the back. You always saw\u2014with Tommy, you always saw the knife coming. He just got you. [Laughter]\u00a0 So, I was just\u2014all of that is kind of in this chapter on mentoring in the book, because it\u2019s a big part of who I am. I feel like I\u2019m a product\u2014or I\u2019m a marked man\u2014when it comes to mentoring. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He did something with you that got you into the book\u2014the Bible, obviously\u2014as you started taking this two-hour package every morning; and you list these out in your book\u2014a list of descriptions about what the Scriptures became to you. What I want you to do is just take us through it real quickly, and you just quickly describe how the Scriptures are this for you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, the first one you say is: \u201cThe Scriptures became my guide.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; I\u2014when you\u2019re making decisions\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014I would go to the Scriptures first and seek what the Lord wanted me to do. Tommy said, \u201cLook, prayer is you talking to God \/ the Scriptures are God talking to you.\u201d\u00a0 So, I would look to the Scriptures as a guide. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So: \u201cThe Scriptures are your treasure.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; that\u2019s why it was a priority of my day. That\u2019s how I started my day and sort of how we ended the day. He always kind of said, \u201cYou want to fall asleep kind of in the Word \/ kind of maturating on the Word;\u201d you know?\u2014the meditation. \u201cHow does a young man keep his life clean and pure?\u201d\u2014Psalm 119; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>By meditating on the Scriptures\u2014so, it was my treasure. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>This next one fits: \u201cThe Scriptures are my protection.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Totally\u2014keep you from sin. Sin will keep you from this book, or this book will keep you from sin. The book really kind of thwarted my sinful patterns. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cThe Scriptures are my authority.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Final saying\u2014always has the final say in my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u201cThe Scriptures are my revealer.\u201d\u00a0 I thought this was interesting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; as you grow in the Lord\u2014one thing I thought\u2014like after I got rid of the big sins, I was like: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u201cOkay; this is\u2014I\u2019ve kind of got these out the way. I\u2019m kind of pretty holy.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 Then, I realized: \u201cWow!\u00a0 No; God\u2019s going to continue to\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I had a moment like that, you know, probably, 40\/50 years ago. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; nuancing comes; you know?\u00a0 Now, I\u2019m dealing with stuff that I would\u2014those big sins were like layups; okay?\u00a0 I can stop doing that\u2014the easy stuff. Now, it\u2019s like I am dealing with nuance kind of stuff and always kind of having to think through new areas that He reveals to my life and points out every single day: \u201cOkay; that\u2019s immature\u201d still. Now, I\u2019m like 29 years the other side of this thing, and I\u2019m still dealing with some of the besetting sins as Hebrews 12 talks about. I\u2019m still wrangling and wrestling with this stuff\u2014it\u2019s crazy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And \u201cThe Scriptures are my food.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; substance. Yes, absolute substance\u20141 Peter 2:1-3\u2014you know: \u201cAs a newborn baby craves milk...\u201d\u00a0 He always taught us: \u201cListen, you\u2019ll never outgrow this craving for the Word of God. It will feed you.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It\u2019s what you need to grow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>If you\u2019re not in it, you\u2019re not going to grow. Ultimately, this fed your concept of who God is; and you start your book talking about the fear of God which, Bob knows, is kind of one of my anchor points as well\u2014attempting to live my life in the presence of God. Explain to our listeners how you apply the fear of God to your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; in particular, it\u2019s not an immobilizing fear \/ it\u2019s a healthy fear. I think you live out your view of God every single day; right?\u00a0 So, if you have a high view of God, you should have a high standard of living. If you have a low view of God, it\u2019s probably going to produce a lower standard of living. So, for me, cultivating a healthy fear of God is\u2014it\u2019s a healthy perspective on who God is\u2014He is lofty, and we\u2019re not. He has attributes that we\u2019ll never attain to. He\u2019s utterly distinct and exclusive. I just think it\u2019s a posture\u2014a healthy posture\u2014a lot like parenting in some sense. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKids should have a healthy fear of you, as a dad or a mom; but it shouldn\u2019t immobilize them; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>It shouldn\u2019t shut them down. They should just find joy in that fear. So, it\u2019s a right perspective\u2014a lofty view of God\u2014that, honestly, is the single great aid to my personal and progressive sanctification\u2014is the healthy fear of God, because I have to step over the fear of God to sin. I have to say, \u201cWell, He can\u2019t see this,\u201d or \u201cI can hide this sin,\u201d or \u201cI can hold onto this sin.\u201d\u00a0 And of course, Psalm 139 just blows that to pieces; right?\u00a0 There\u2019s nowhere you can go \/ there\u2019s nowhere you can hide. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Dan, you really\u2014in writing this book and trying to provide guidance for young men, you could look back at how God had shaped, and intervened, and directed your life. If you think about the trajectory of your life, if there hadn\u2019t been God\u2019s intervention, where do you think you\u2019d be today?\u00a0 What would you be doing?\u00a0 What would you be living for?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhere would your life have taken you; do you think?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; that\u2019s a frightening question. I mean, I just think I\u2019d be consumed with myself. I mean, I was\u2014I was a sophisticated sinner. Meaning by that, I wouldn\u2019t go too far. I was always\u2014there was fearful\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You managed your sin appropriately. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Right. It was pronounced and, obviously, there; but I just kind of\u2014I was smart enough. I kind of navigated that space there. I don\u2019t know where I\u2019d be. I\u2019d be absolutely consumed with myself, and I think I\u2019d be reckless. I think I wouldn\u2019t have compassion on people and the vulnerable, in particular. Entitlement, I think, would mark my life. So, I think I\u2019d be a mess\u2014a hot mess. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Is it your hope that guys in high school \/ college are going to read this \/ go through it together with other guys?\u00a0 What\u2019s your desire for a book like this?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>Yes; there\u2019s a phrase that is etched into the stone fireplace at Red Arrow Camp\u2014I don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve ever been to Red Arrow Camp. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve not visited it myself, but I was told that it\u2019s in the fireplace there\u2014it says, \u201cIf you want to be a great man, start by being a great boy.\u201d This book is my heart expressed to young men and young women to be highly intentional. I kind of wrote it for middle school to millennials\u2014that\u2019s the kind of demography that I\u2019m aiming at, because I want to get them at a young age. I want them to be highly intentional and not to play life by chance. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things that marks this generation is they\u2019re just\u2014they\u2019re just throwing the dice. They are just playing it by chance, and they\u2019re not intentional. They\u2019re not living <em>smart<\/em>. Another word for smart is wise; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dan: <\/strong>It\u2019s got a Proverbs-esque feel to the whole book, and that\u2019s kind of what I\u2019m trying to capture there. So, I want to see young people be <em>highly<\/em> intentional\u2014to not leaving life to chance. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; the way you find life is get to know God and live your life under the authority, under the food, under the treasure of the Scripture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you do that, you\u2019ll look back, at the end of your life, and go: \u201cNo regrets.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara and I were talking last night\u2014she said, \u201cYou know, if we stopped doing what we\u2019re doing right now, I don\u2019t know what I would do; because I have been so used to being on a mission\u201d\u2014meaning the Great Commission\u2014\u201cbeing about leading people to Christ and discipling people.\u201d She said, \u201cI don\u2019t know what I would do.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I think young people today need to get into that mission. They need to know why they are here. They are not just random molecules. God went to the cross in the person of Jesus Christ to redeem you, not just from hell, but to redeem you from selfishness and give you His mission for your life. And I\u2019ve got to tell you\u2014after having attempted to live in or near that bull\u2019s eye for the last 50 years, it doesn\u2019t get any better than that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, I\u2019m thinking about parents, who have middle schoolers or high schoolers. You get a book like this and go through it, a chapter at a time\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014maybe, at the dinner table; or in the evening, part of family devotions; maybe, right before bed. The chapters are short. This\u2019ll provoke a lot of great conversations with you and your kids. The book is called <em>Live Smart: Preparing for the Future God Wants for You: <\/em>\u201cDon\u2019t waste this time in your life.\u201d\u00a0 Dan Dumas is the author, and we\u2019ve got copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order from us online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to get a copy of the book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThose of you who have thought about taking your middle schooler on a <em>Passport2Identity<\/em><sup>\u2122<\/sup> getaway, where you and your 13-\/14-\/15-year-old get away for a couple of days and listen to the <em>Passport2Identity<\/em> content\u2014this would be a great follow-up to your getaway time. 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