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They promise to love and honor and cherish one another. Pastor James Ford says, \u201cHusbands need to make sure they are promise-keepers.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>James: <\/strong>It\u2019s that principle that says: \u201cListen, you made a vow\u2014\u2018\u2026in sickness and health, in poverty and wealth, until death do us part\u2019\u2014not until debt do us part,\u201d\u2014so, you know, just that kind of commitment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, are there times when I\u2019m not feeling it?\u00a0 Of course, there are; but yet, love in marriage doesn\u2019t lead you to commitment. Commitment in marriage leads you to love. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, August 10<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. To be a husband who honors God in your marriage, there\u2019s a lot we\u2019ve got to live up to. We\u2019ll hear more about that today. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThanks for joining us on the Thursday edition. One of the things we\u2019ve been doing this year in honor of the fact that we\u2019re about to celebrate 25 years of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> being on the air\u2014that comes up here in a few months\u2014we thought it would be fun to go back and pull out some highlights from previous years, and we\u2019ve done it around themes. In fact, last month, we talked about what God\u2019s design is for a wife in marriage. It\u2019s only fair that we turn the tables today and talk about God\u2019s design for husbands in marriage; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think we\u2019ll start this broadcast out by just reading what Paul said in the Bible\u2014Ephesians, Chapter 5, verse 25[-28]: \u201cHusbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her, that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of the water with the Word, so that He might present the church to Himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u201cIn the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat an assignment, Bob\u2014that I am called by God \/ commanded by God to someday think about presenting Barbara without blemish just as Christ will present to Himself the church \/ the bride of Christ without any blemish or spot or wrinkle. Our assignment, as husbands, is to love the blemishes out of our wives\u2014now, what a noble calling and a privilege that truly is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Really, you can boil down a husband\u2019s responsibility to the two words, love and lead. Those are both captured in Ephesians, Chapter 5; aren\u2019t they?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They are; but that concept of love\u2014there are actually several different words for love. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, we have a guest that we had on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, back in 2010. His name is James Ford, and he\u2019s written a book called <em>Seven Reasons Why God Created Marriage<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>James is a pastor on the south-side of Chicago. We talked with him about a husband\u2019s responsibility to love his wife. He said, \u201cWe\u2019ve got to understand what the Bible is talking about when it talks about love.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>James: <\/strong>The four words for love\u2014you have <em>agapao<\/em> or <em>agape<\/em>. Then, you have <em>phileo<\/em>; then, <em>storgeo<\/em>; then, <em>eros<\/em>. You need all four in marriage. <em>Eros<\/em> is sensual. <em>Storgeo<\/em> is spousal. <em>Phileo<\/em> is social, and <em>agape<\/em> is spiritual\u2014that\u2019s the highest. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd let me tell you how this fleshes out. Because my wife has been ill for 20 years and I\u2019ve had to do most of the cooking, most of the cleaning, she asked me around year eight or nine\u2014she said: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cAre you tired of this?\u00a0 I know you\u2019re ready to throw in the towel and be done with this.\u201d\u00a0 I said to her\u2014I said, \u201cYou know, sometimes, I get tired in it; but I don\u2019t get tired of it.\u201d\u00a0 So, it is that principle that keeps me going. It\u2019s that principle that says, \u201cListen, you\u2019re not in this relationship to get\u2014you made a vow\u2014\u2018\u2026in sickness and health, in poverty and wealth, until death do us part\u2019\u2014not until debt do us part,\u201d\u2014so, just that kind of commitment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, are there times, as in the vernacular of the African American community, \u201cI\u2019m not feeling it?\u201d\u00a0 Of course, there are. Are there times when I am tired in it?\u00a0 Of course, there are; but yet, you know, here is what Adrian Rogers says\u2014or used to say all the time\u2014he said, \u201cYou know, love in marriage doesn\u2019t lead you to commitment; commitment in marriage leads you to love.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>James: <\/strong>So, I said, \u201cListen, I\u2019m committed to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI\u2019m so committed to you that if you ever leave me, I\u2019m going with you.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we got into an argument one time, Bob. She grabs her suitcase and she says: \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 I\u2019m leaving. I\u2019m leaving.\u201d\u00a0 So, I grabbed my suitcase and I said: \u201cI\u2019m leaving too. Where are we going?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cWhere are we going?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>James: <\/strong>That\u2019s it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There you go!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>James: <\/strong>Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I love that imagery. Don\u2019t you, Bob?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I do too. That\u2019s Pastor James Ford talking about what real love looks like and how a husband loves his wife in a marriage relationship. It reminded me, Dennis, of a conversation we had recently with Ann Voskamp that\u2019s going to be heard on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> coming up; but she talked about walking outside one day and her husband was up on a ladder, cleaning the gutters\u2014do you remember this?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>She said, \u201cWhat are you doing?\u201d\u00a0 What did he say?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He said, \u201cI\u2019m loving you.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And it was a holy moment as she told that story. Then, another moment I thought of from that same interview, Bob\u2014and by the way, you need to make sure you hear this interview with Ann Voskamp\u2014but she had worked really hard during that day; and evidently, he\u2019d been out bringing the crops in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was late, late at night; and he came in the house and knelt down in front of her chair and began to massage her feet. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Gave her a foot rub. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She said, \u201cEverything within me wanted to pull away,\u201d\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014because he\u2019d been working hard all day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014because he was exhausted. It was eleven o\u2019clock at night. They live up in an area of Canada where the sun\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014where it\u2019s still bright out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, it\u2019s still light at the time; but I think the assignment of a husband is to love his wife in such a way that he sacrifices his life for her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI opened the door for Barbara after we got home from church last week. I just thought, as I did that, very simply: \u201cMy life for yours.\u201d\u00a0 I didn\u2019t say it out loud; but I thought, \u201cI\u2019ve always liked that concept of what a common courtesy is all about.\u201d\u00a0 It shows up in all kinds of little commitments along the way where you honor the person who said, \u201cI do,\u201d and the person to whom you say, \u201cI <em>still<\/em> do.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We don\u2019t usually do this, but I\u2019m going to see if I can get our team to pull out a little sneak preview clip of our conversation with Ann Voskamp. It\u2019ll be available on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com. You can just listen to a few minutes of that interview, because the interview will be aired later this year; but if you\u2019d like to get a preview, you can do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, the concept of loving your wife goes beyond sacrifice. It involves connection\u2014it involves emotional intimacy. We aired a message from our friend, Dr. Robert Lewis, back in 2007, where he was talking straight to the men about how they need to make sure that their love is connecting, heart to heart, with their wife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Message]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robert: <\/strong>A real head is a lover. It\u2019s very simple. Look at verse 25. It says, \u201cHusbands, love your wives just as Christ, also, loved the church.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, the comparison is to Christ; and the question we have to ask is: \u201cWell, how did Christ love the church?\u201d\u00a0 The answer is: \u201cHe loved the church by connecting with the church where it most needed Him. It needed redemption, and Jesus stepped into that and redeemed His church.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, the husband doesn\u2019t redeem the wife; but at least, it invites this question: \u201cWhere does the wife most need the husband to love her?\u201d\u00a0 And I believe it\u2019s a very basic answer\u2014it is this: \u201cShe needs to\u2014in the dailyness of marriage, she needs to <em>feel<\/em> loved.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s so basic, but that\u2019s the great connection. She needs to feel, on an ongoing way, a positive, healthy <em>emotional<\/em> connection of love with her husband. In other words, you\u2019ve got to, as a man, show her your <em>heart<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPractically, that\u2019s going to mean regularly opening up when you come home\u2014talking to her, listening to her, caring about what she\u2019s feeling in life, sharing with her where you\u2019re going, what\u2019s happening around you, understanding her, and moments of intimacy where you just kind of connect, soul to soul. Can I hear an \u201cAmen,\u201d ladies?\u00a0 Is that right?\u00a0 Do you believe that?\u00a0 That\u2019s what you most need. This is what it means to love a woman. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGuys, it\u2019s so easy just to forget that or miss that. Like the guy who took his wife out to dinner\u2014they went out \/ dinner was served, and he immediately went to eating. There was very little talking or any kind of interaction. They looked next to them, and there was this couple\u2014this younger couple\u2014they were having the same meal, but they were conversing. He was talking in kind of an animated fashion, and she was looking adoringly at him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEvery so often, he would lean over and whisper something in her ear, and she would laugh and all that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the midst of that, the first woman at the other table said to her husband: \u201cLook at how he talks to her. Wow!\u00a0 Why don\u2019t you do something like that?\u201d\u00a0 He looks up from his Caesar salad and says, \u201cHoney, I don\u2019t even know the woman.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 Now, that\u2019s a guy that doesn\u2019t get it!\u00a0 See, he\u2019s missed the whole point of this text. Loving is connecting at an emotional level where a woman <em>feels<\/em> loved. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Again, that\u2019s our friend, Dr. Robert Lewis, talking about the need to love your wife in a way that she feels loved. That involves communication. In fact, you probably remember when our friend, Stu Weber, was here\u2014this was back almost at the very beginning of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014back in 1993. He had written a book called <em>Tender Warrior<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere was one chapter in that book\u2014do you remember the chapter?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I do remember the chapter\u2014it was called \u201cSpeaking Woman.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cDo You Speak Woman?\u201d\u2014that\u2019s right. It\u2019s the whole idea that men and women often don\u2019t communicate the same way. A husband to love his wife\u2014he\u2019s going to have to understand how she communicates; right?\u00a0 This is Stu Weber. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stu: <\/strong>We speak different languages because we\u2019re different \/ we\u2019re oriented differently\u2014men tend to be oriented toward the task \/ women toward the relationship. In this particular case, the task was to get from Point A to Point B about five times in one day, which meant we had to meet transportation. That\u2019s great. We were seeing the old country\u2014that\u2019s good news. The bad news was it was in the vicinity of the shops of Jerusalem. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Shopping!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stu: <\/strong>I wanted to conquer that itinerary; Linda wanted to linger in the shops. Conquering and lingering are both legitimate exercises, but they\u2019re not immediately compatible. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Combustible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stu: <\/strong>Very much so. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I was pushing all day long\u2014and pushing, and pushing, and pushing. It became increasingly uncomfortable; but at last, we finished the itinerary. We were at our place of lodging for the evening. I had forgotten the day\u2014it was <em>long<\/em> spent. We sat romantically on the shores of Galilee\u2014the Milky Way going over our heads and the water lapping at our feet\u2014it was just one of those romantic moments. Being a man, I didn\u2019t realize that some of these\u2014that romance really begins in the dailyness \/ the kitchen; you know?\u00a0 I put my arm around her shoulder and I said, \u201cHoney, I really love you.\u201d\u00a0 There was a moment of silence; and she said, \u201cIt takes work to love me; you know?\u201d I thought, \u201cUh-oh!\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Ooh!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stu: <\/strong>The romantic evening was not developing like I had envisioned. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There were some icicles hanging on that statement?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stu: <\/strong>There were. We had to work our way back through the day. See, a man can be compartmentalized, because he\u2019s task-oriented. A woman is a synthetic person in the sense that she synthesizes\u2014the whole day matters. Everything is an integral part of everything else. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, my impatience\u2014or my pushing throughout the day\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014spoke in a woman\u2019s language and said: \u201cI don\u2019t care. I don\u2019t know what your needs are. I\u2019m not communicating with you. We\u2019re just going to get this accomplished.\u201d\u00a0 How could I, then, turn around and hypocritically say, \u201cI love you, dear\u201d?\u00a0 That\u2019s what it was\u2014it was not that to me \/ it was to her\u2014major difference. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How do you speak woman, Bob?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Not fluently. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Forty-five years, I\u2019ve been learning the language. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I watched you listening to Stu, and you were just smiling and kind of nodding your head like\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cBeen there,\u201d\u2014even recently; huh?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. When he called a woman, \u201csynthetic,\u201d that\u2019s when I knew he\u2019d messed with words just a little bit. He was talking about how they synthesize everything\u2014they don\u2019t compartmentalize \/ they bring it into the whole. I can\u2019t tell you how long it took me to begin to learn\u2014I don\u2019t know that I\u2019ve learned this\u2014but I do understand it a whole lot more today, 45 years later. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is where husbands need to\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014not only spend time in Ephesians 5\u2014but they need to spend time in 1 Peter 3, as well; because Peter has some very solid advice for husbands about how they\u2019re going to do their job; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He does: \u201cHusbands, live with your wives in an understanding way\u2026so that your prayers may not be hindered.\u201d\u00a0 She\u2019s a weaker vessel\u2014it says. So, that means you\u2019ve got to understand that she\u2019s not a man; and I think a part of learning to speak woman, as Stu Weber was talking about there, is\u2014you\u2019re not really married to your buddy. You\u2019re married to a woman\u2014a counterpart\u2014who is different, who\u2014because she is different, doesn\u2019t mean she\u2019s wrong.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But you married her because she\u2019s different. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>And you ought to thank God for that; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; exactly. And learn to speak in a way that honors her, cherishes her, and brings dignity to her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, the assignment for every man listening to this broadcast is\u2014as soon as this broadcast is over, call your wife and just say, \u201cHey, honey, I love you.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I was thinking, as I was listening to Stu, we had a guest, Jess MacCallum, who was with us back a few years ago. Jess learned, early on, as a husband, that if he was going to love his wife well, he had to remember that when he got married\u2014well, the plates had shifted, and he needed to reprioritize his life. Listen to how he described this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jess: <\/strong>A lot of guys have a group of friends or a certain guy they hang out with a lot. Even while they\u2019re dating, they\u2019re either double-dating; or they\u2019re still kind of sharing time. But once that covenant begins and the marriage life begins, it\u2019s disloyal to make your wife say when enough is enough. You should be the one setting parameters to keep the household under the leadership God assigned to you. You never blame your wife\u2014like: \u201cGuys, look, my wife\u2019s going to be <em>really<\/em> upset. Can we get\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jess: <\/strong>If you hide behind her skirt, it makes you look weak; it undermines your relationship, and those guys are laughing about it. And if they need to be told privately, then say: \u201cLook, this is the new lay of the land. You guys will never even compete with my wife. She will always be first. There\u2019s not even a second place,\u201d\u2014and they need to be told that, perhaps, even individually if they don\u2019t get the message. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But I think it\u2019s really key, in the midst of this, for your wife not to have the sense that your night out with the guys: \u201cMan! You love that!\u201d \/ spending time with her: \u201cThat\u2019s okay; but you really can\u2019t wait for Friday night when you get to go out with the guys.\u201d\u00a0 That sends a message in marriage that says, \u201cMarriage is okay, but I\u2019m still kind of a single guy.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jess: <\/strong>Well, there is a little bit of singleness left in all guys when they\u2019re first married. I mean, you\u2019ve really taken on a whole new dimension. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You think?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jess: <\/strong>Well, I did. I think you guys probably started off much better than I did, but\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s a dangerous assumption. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jess: <\/strong>But what we do is\u2014we learn each other that first year, especially. And this is why it takes a little patience and a <em>lot<\/em> of communication on both sides and come up with a solution that fits both of you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut yes, you don\u2019t want to communicate competition with your wife on any level\u2014not the guys\u2019 night, not her family \/ your family, not your job. That\u2019s part of becoming a loyal leader \/ a protector so that she doesn\u2019t feel like she\u2019s being supplanted or competed with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Good wisdom from Jess MacCallum from a past <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> program. What he is saying, Dennis, is\u2014part of the way we love our wives is we make sure they know they are set apart \/ they\u2019re special; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. A way you can make your wife feel special is by having a few questions that you ask her all the time that will reveal to you what her real needs are all about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>In fact, we had Pastor Tom Elliff join us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, along with his wife Jeannie. Jeannie, by the way, has since gone to glory \/ she is at home with Jesus. Not long ago, Tom was remarried. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s probably pulled out his book on the <em>10 Questions Every Husband Should Ask<\/em>. We\u2019ve only got time to hear one of them, but it\u2019s a great question. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tom: <\/strong>Number one: \u201cWhat could I do to cause you to feel more loved?\u201d\u00a0 You think: \u201cOh, I know what I want!\u00a0 I want you to whisk me away to some romantic hideaway.\u201d\u00a0 I guess I better just go ahead and tell you what she said. She said\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No; no. Let\u2019s let her tell us what\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeannie: <\/strong>I don\u2019t remember all of them. He remembers it better than I do. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tom: <\/strong>Well, you know, I had all these romantic visions in my head. She said, \u201cYou know, I really would like it, when we\u2019re in public, for you <em>always<\/em> to pull my chair out for me.\u201d\u00a0 Wow!\u00a0 I thought: \u201cThat\u2019s not a romantic hideaway. This is not where we\u2019re headed here. This is something else for me to do!\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You guys speak different love languages; don\u2019t you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tom: <\/strong>Well, you know, that\u2019s the truth. Boy, this was a wake-up call to me. You know, I consider myself a fairly polite person; but we had been in some <em>huge<\/em> crowds, in recent weeks, surrounding that time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019d been pulled away with one group, and she\u2019d be pulled away with another group; you know?\u00a0 And we\u2019d get back together, and we\u2019d be racing off to another meeting. I think I let some of my comportment slip a little bit; and she said, \u201cYou know, I want to know that you know I am here in the midst of all these other people. I want to\u2026\u201d\u2014I think this is what she was saying; is that right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeannie: <\/strong>Exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tom: <\/strong>\u201cI want you to know that I\u2019m here.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Jeannie, you had to feel safe and secure to be able to even\u2014I mean, that doesn\u2019t sound very threatening; but a lot of husbands would hear something like that from their wife, and they\u2019d start to get defensive. They\u2019d start to go: \u201cWell, now, wait\u2026\u201d and they\u2019d back pedal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeannie: <\/strong>Right. I knew, from the beginning of this experience, that we shared there in that restaurant that this was a serious thing to him. He was going to really listen to me. I knew this was not: \u201cHoney, listen to me,\u201d \/ \u201cHuh?\u201d\u00a0 This was a real occasion that was different. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s fun to listen back to Tom and Jeannie Elliff, from many years ago, as they joined us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd that\u2019s a great question for a man to ask his wife, but you better be ready for what the answer is; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. I mentioned earlier that I opened the door for Barbara. Well, there\u2019s another way to make sure you\u2019re acknowledging her presence; and that is while having dinner with other couples, going out to eat. Sometimes, I can get excited about what we\u2019re doing, here, at FamilyLife. I can start talking to somebody, who is also equally interested in what God\u2019s doing through this ministry. I can kind of bulldoze my way through the evening and not allow Barbara to share what God\u2019s doing in her life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Never a part of the conversation; huh?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. So, it\u2019s been interesting to grow in that area, as a man. I was about a 0 on a 10-point scale in our first year. I think I\u2019m north of a 5,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014now, at year 45. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tStill got a long ways to go, but I really do enjoy hearing her share and having her be a part of the conversation. I don\u2019t\u2014looking back on an evening, I have no delight in taking over the conversation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want her to be in on it, and that does make her feel loved. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Some of our listeners may want to see Tom Elliff\u2019s complete list of his ten questions that he asked his wife. We\u2019ve got that on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com. In fact, there are links\u2014if you\u2019d like to listen to all of the conversations and messages that we\u2019ve just heard portions of today\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com and follow the links. You can hear the original recordings of the interviews and the messages that we\u2019ve featured today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s also information about Dennis\u2019s book, <em>Stepping Up<\/em>, which is a great book for husbands to read that calls us to be the men God has created us to be. The book I wrote, <em>Christian Husband<\/em>\u2014we have copies of that in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center and other resources for husbands. You\u2019ll find them, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call with any questions or to order. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur number is 1-800-FL-TODAY. So, again, the website\u2014FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014the number to call: 800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, you think about the almost 25 years of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> being on the air \/ the more than 40 years that FamilyLife has existed\u2014our goal has always been, as a ministry, to provide practical help for marriages and families from the Bible. We want to effectively develop godly marriages and families. And the one thing that has been a burden for us is: \u201cHow can we reach more people?\u00a0 How can we help more people?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd really, the key to being able to expand the reach of this ministry is for us to have the funding necessary to do that. We have some friends who want to see the impact of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> grow in the years to come. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis month, they\u2019ve agreed to provide an incentive for <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners to be part of the team that accelerates the movement of this ministry. They\u2019ve agreed that they will match every donation we receive during the month of August, dollar for dollar, up to a total of $800,000. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re working really hard to get the word out, hoping that many of our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners\u2014those of you who are regular listeners, those of you who have donated in the past, and those of you who have never made a donation\u2014today is a great time for you to go online or to call and donate, knowing that whatever you donate is going to help us reach more people; and your donation is going to be doubled in the process as well. Would you go to FamilyLifeToday.com and make an online donation today; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY and donate over the phone?\u00a0 If you\u2019d prefer, you can mail your donation to us. Our mailing address is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223. Again, pray that we\u2019ll be able to take full advantage of this matching-gift opportunity, here, during August.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we are going to continue talking about a husband\u2019s responsibility in marriage. We\u2019re going to shift from talking about loving your wife to talking about God\u2019s call to lead your wife. It\u2019s one of the ways you love her. And in fact, we\u2019re going to talk about what leading your wife shouldn\u2019t look like, because a lot of guys have got that wrong. We\u2019ll talk more about it tomorrow. Hope you can join us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; A Cru<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> Ministry.\u00a0\u00a0 Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2017 FamilyLife. 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James Ford, Robert Lewis, Stu Weber, Jess MacCallum, and Tom and Jeannie Elliff give examples on ways to do that.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2017-08-10.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When a couple gets married, they exchange vows. They promise to love and honor and cherish one another. Pastor James Ford says, \u201cHusbands need to make sure they are promise-keepers.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>James: <\/strong>It\u2019s that principle that says: \u201cListen, you made a vow\u2014\u2018\u2026in sickness and health, in poverty and wealth, until death do us part\u2019\u2014not until debt do us part,\u201d\u2014so, you know, just that kind of commitment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, are there times when I\u2019m not feeling it?\u00a0 Of course, there are; but yet, love in marriage doesn\u2019t lead you to commitment. Commitment in marriage leads you to love. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, August 10<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. To be a husband who honors God in your marriage, there\u2019s a lot we\u2019ve got to live up to. We\u2019ll hear more about that today. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThanks for joining us on the Thursday edition. One of the things we\u2019ve been doing this year in honor of the fact that we\u2019re about to celebrate 25 years of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> being on the air\u2014that comes up here in a few months\u2014we thought it would be fun to go back and pull out some highlights from previous years, and we\u2019ve done it around themes. In fact, last month, we talked about what God\u2019s design is for a wife in marriage. It\u2019s only fair that we turn the tables today and talk about God\u2019s design for husbands in marriage; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think we\u2019ll start this broadcast out by just reading what Paul said in the Bible\u2014Ephesians, Chapter 5, verse 25[-28]: \u201cHusbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her, that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of the water with the Word, so that He might present the church to Himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u00a0\u201cIn the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat an assignment, Bob\u2014that I am called by God \/ commanded by God to someday think about presenting Barbara without blemish just as Christ will present to Himself the church \/ the bride of Christ without any blemish or spot or wrinkle. Our assignment, as husbands, is to love the blemishes out of our wives\u2014now, what a noble calling and a privilege that truly is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Really, you can boil down a husband\u2019s responsibility to the two words, love and lead. Those are both captured in Ephesians, Chapter 5; aren\u2019t they?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They are; but that concept of love\u2014there are actually several different words for love. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, we have a guest that we had on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, back in 2010. His name is James Ford, and he\u2019s written a book called <em>Seven Reasons Why God Created Marriage<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>James is a pastor on the south-side of Chicago. We talked with him about a husband\u2019s responsibility to love his wife. He said, \u201cWe\u2019ve got to understand what the Bible is talking about when it talks about love.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>James: <\/strong>The four words for love\u2014you have <em>agapao<\/em> or <em>agape<\/em>. Then, you have <em>phileo<\/em>; then, <em>storgeo<\/em>; then, <em>eros<\/em>. You need all four in marriage. <em>Eros<\/em> is sensual. <em>Storgeo<\/em> is spousal. <em>Phileo<\/em> is social, and <em>agape<\/em> is spiritual\u2014that\u2019s the highest. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd let me tell you how this fleshes out. Because my wife has been ill for 20 years and I\u2019ve had to do most of the cooking, most of the cleaning, she asked me around year eight or nine\u2014she said: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cAre you tired of this?\u00a0 I know you\u2019re ready to throw in the towel and be done with this.\u201d\u00a0 I said to her\u2014I said, \u201cYou know, sometimes, I get tired in it; but I don\u2019t get tired of it.\u201d\u00a0 So, it is that principle that keeps me going. It\u2019s that principle that says, \u201cListen, you\u2019re not in this relationship to get\u2014you made a vow\u2014\u2018\u2026in sickness and health, in poverty and wealth, until death do us part\u2019\u2014not until debt do us part,\u201d\u2014so, just that kind of commitment. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, are there times, as in the vernacular of the African American community, \u201cI\u2019m not feeling it?\u201d\u00a0 Of course, there are. Are there times when I am tired in it?\u00a0 Of course, there are; but yet, you know, here is what Adrian Rogers says\u2014or used to say all the time\u2014he said, \u201cYou know, love in marriage doesn\u2019t lead you to commitment; commitment in marriage leads you to love.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>James: <\/strong>So, I said, \u201cListen, I\u2019m committed to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI\u2019m so committed to you that if you ever leave me, I\u2019m going with you.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we got into an argument one time, Bob. She grabs her suitcase and she says: \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 I\u2019m leaving. I\u2019m leaving.\u201d\u00a0 So, I grabbed my suitcase and I said: \u201cI\u2019m leaving too. Where are we going?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cWhere are we going?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>James: <\/strong>That\u2019s it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There you go!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>James: <\/strong>Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I love that imagery. Don\u2019t you, Bob?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I do too. That\u2019s Pastor James Ford talking about what real love looks like and how a husband loves his wife in a marriage relationship. It reminded me, Dennis, of a conversation we had recently with Ann Voskamp that\u2019s going to be heard on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> coming up; but she talked about walking outside one day and her husband was up on a ladder, cleaning the gutters\u2014do you remember this?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>She said, \u201cWhat are you doing?\u201d\u00a0 What did he say?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He said, \u201cI\u2019m loving you.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And it was a holy moment as she told that story. Then, another moment I thought of from that same interview, Bob\u2014and by the way, you need to make sure you hear this interview with Ann Voskamp\u2014but she had worked really hard during that day; and evidently, he\u2019d been out bringing the crops in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was late, late at night; and he came in the house and knelt down in front of her chair and began to massage her feet. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Gave her a foot rub. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She said, \u201cEverything within me wanted to pull away,\u201d\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014because he\u2019d been working hard all day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014because he was exhausted. It was eleven o\u2019clock at night. They live up in an area of Canada where the sun\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014where it\u2019s still bright out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, it\u2019s still light at the time; but I think the assignment of a husband is to love his wife in such a way that he sacrifices his life for her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI opened the door for Barbara after we got home from church last week. I just thought, as I did that, very simply: \u201cMy life for yours.\u201d\u00a0 I didn\u2019t say it out loud; but I thought, \u201cI\u2019ve always liked that concept of what a common courtesy is all about.\u201d\u00a0 It shows up in all kinds of little commitments along the way where you honor the person who said, \u201cI do,\u201d and the person to whom you say, \u201cI <em>still<\/em> do.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We don\u2019t usually do this, but I\u2019m going to see if I can get our team to pull out a little sneak preview clip of our conversation with Ann Voskamp. It\u2019ll be available on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com. You can just listen to a few minutes of that interview, because the interview will be aired later this year; but if you\u2019d like to get a preview, you can do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, the concept of loving your wife goes beyond sacrifice. It involves connection\u2014it involves emotional intimacy. We aired a message from our friend, Dr. Robert Lewis, back in 2007, where he was talking straight to the men about how they need to make sure that their love is connecting, heart to heart, with their wife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Message]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robert: <\/strong>A real head is a lover. It\u2019s very simple. Look at verse 25. It says, \u201cHusbands, love your wives just as Christ, also, loved the church.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, the comparison is to Christ; and the question we have to ask is: \u201cWell, how did Christ love the church?\u201d\u00a0 The answer is: \u201cHe loved the church by connecting with the church where it most needed Him. It needed redemption, and Jesus stepped into that and redeemed His church.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, the husband doesn\u2019t redeem the wife; but at least, it invites this question: \u201cWhere does the wife most need the husband to love her?\u201d\u00a0 And I believe it\u2019s a very basic answer\u2014it is this: \u201cShe needs to\u2014in the dailyness of marriage, she needs to <em>feel<\/em> loved.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s so basic, but that\u2019s the great connection. She needs to feel, on an ongoing way, a positive, healthy <em>emotional<\/em> connection of love with her husband. In other words, you\u2019ve got to, as a man, show her your <em>heart<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPractically, that\u2019s going to mean regularly opening up when you come home\u2014talking to her, listening to her, caring about what she\u2019s feeling in life, sharing with her where you\u2019re going, what\u2019s happening around you, understanding her, and moments of intimacy where you just kind of connect, soul to soul. Can I hear an \u201cAmen,\u201d ladies?\u00a0 Is that right?\u00a0 Do you believe that?\u00a0 That\u2019s what you most need. This is what it means to love a woman. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGuys, it\u2019s so easy just to forget that or miss that. Like the guy who took his wife out to dinner\u2014they went out \/ dinner was served, and he immediately went to eating. There was very little talking or any kind of interaction. They looked next to them, and there was this couple\u2014this younger couple\u2014they were having the same meal, but they were conversing. He was talking in kind of an animated fashion, and she was looking adoringly at him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEvery so often, he would lean over and whisper something in her ear, and she would laugh and all that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn the midst of that, the first woman at the other table said to her husband: \u201cLook at how he talks to her. Wow!\u00a0 Why don\u2019t you do something like that?\u201d\u00a0 He looks up from his Caesar salad and says, \u201cHoney, I don\u2019t even know the woman.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 Now, that\u2019s a guy that doesn\u2019t get it!\u00a0 See, he\u2019s missed the whole point of this text. Loving is connecting at an emotional level where a woman <em>feels<\/em> loved. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Again, that\u2019s our friend, Dr. Robert Lewis, talking about the need to love your wife in a way that she feels loved. That involves communication. In fact, you probably remember when our friend, Stu Weber, was here\u2014this was back almost at the very beginning of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014back in 1993. He had written a book called <em>Tender Warrior<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere was one chapter in that book\u2014do you remember the chapter?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I do remember the chapter\u2014it was called \u201cSpeaking Woman.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cDo You Speak Woman?\u201d\u2014that\u2019s right. It\u2019s the whole idea that men and women often don\u2019t communicate the same way. A husband to love his wife\u2014he\u2019s going to have to understand how she communicates; right?\u00a0 This is Stu Weber. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stu: <\/strong>We speak different languages because we\u2019re different \/ we\u2019re oriented differently\u2014men tend to be oriented toward the task \/ women toward the relationship. In this particular case, the task was to get from Point A to Point B about five times in one day, which meant we had to meet transportation. That\u2019s great. We were seeing the old country\u2014that\u2019s good news. The bad news was it was in the vicinity of the shops of Jerusalem. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Shopping!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stu: <\/strong>I wanted to conquer that itinerary; Linda wanted to linger in the shops. Conquering and lingering are both legitimate exercises, but they\u2019re not immediately compatible. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Combustible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stu: <\/strong>Very much so. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I was pushing all day long\u2014and pushing, and pushing, and pushing. It became increasingly uncomfortable; but at last, we finished the itinerary. We were at our place of lodging for the evening. I had forgotten the day\u2014it was <em>long<\/em> spent. We sat romantically on the shores of Galilee\u2014the Milky Way going over our heads and the water lapping at our feet\u2014it was just one of those romantic moments. Being a man, I didn\u2019t realize that some of these\u2014that romance really begins in the dailyness \/ the kitchen; you know?\u00a0 I put my arm around her shoulder and I said, \u201cHoney, I really love you.\u201d\u00a0 There was a moment of silence; and she said, \u201cIt takes work to love me; you know?\u201d I thought, \u201cUh-oh!\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Ooh!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stu: <\/strong>The romantic evening was not developing like I had envisioned. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>There were some icicles hanging on that statement?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Stu: <\/strong>There were. We had to work our way back through the day. See, a man can be compartmentalized, because he\u2019s task-oriented. A woman is a synthetic person in the sense that she synthesizes\u2014the whole day matters. Everything is an integral part of everything else. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, my impatience\u2014or my pushing throughout the day\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014spoke in a woman\u2019s language and said: \u201cI don\u2019t care. I don\u2019t know what your needs are. I\u2019m not communicating with you. We\u2019re just going to get this accomplished.\u201d\u00a0 How could I, then, turn around and hypocritically say, \u201cI love you, dear\u201d?\u00a0 That\u2019s what it was\u2014it was not that to me \/ it was to her\u2014major difference. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How do you speak woman, Bob?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Not fluently. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Forty-five years, I\u2019ve been learning the language. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I watched you listening to Stu, and you were just smiling and kind of nodding your head like\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cBeen there,\u201d\u2014even recently; huh?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. When he called a woman, \u201csynthetic,\u201d that\u2019s when I knew he\u2019d messed with words just a little bit. He was talking about how they synthesize everything\u2014they don\u2019t compartmentalize \/ they bring it into the whole. I can\u2019t tell you how long it took me to begin to learn\u2014I don\u2019t know that I\u2019ve learned this\u2014but I do understand it a whole lot more today, 45 years later. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is where husbands need to\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014not only spend time in Ephesians 5\u2014but they need to spend time in 1 Peter 3, as well; because Peter has some very solid advice for husbands about how they\u2019re going to do their job; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>He does: \u201cHusbands, live with your wives in an understanding way\u2026so that your prayers may not be hindered.\u201d\u00a0 She\u2019s a weaker vessel\u2014it says. So, that means you\u2019ve got to understand that she\u2019s not a man; and I think a part of learning to speak woman, as Stu Weber was talking about there, is\u2014you\u2019re not really married to your buddy. You\u2019re married to a woman\u2014a counterpart\u2014who is different, who\u2014because she is different, doesn\u2019t mean she\u2019s wrong.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But you married her because she\u2019s different. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>And you ought to thank God for that; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; exactly. And learn to speak in a way that honors her, cherishes her, and brings dignity to her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, the assignment for every man listening to this broadcast is\u2014as soon as this broadcast is over, call your wife and just say, \u201cHey, honey, I love you.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I was thinking, as I was listening to Stu, we had a guest, Jess MacCallum, who was with us back a few years ago. Jess learned, early on, as a husband, that if he was going to love his wife well, he had to remember that when he got married\u2014well, the plates had shifted, and he needed to reprioritize his life. Listen to how he described this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jess: <\/strong>A lot of guys have a group of friends or a certain guy they hang out with a lot. Even while they\u2019re dating, they\u2019re either double-dating; or they\u2019re still kind of sharing time. But once that covenant begins and the marriage life begins, it\u2019s disloyal to make your wife say when enough is enough. You should be the one setting parameters to keep the household under the leadership God assigned to you. You never blame your wife\u2014like: \u201cGuys, look, my wife\u2019s going to be <em>really<\/em> upset. Can we get\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jess: <\/strong>If you hide behind her skirt, it makes you look weak; it undermines your relationship, and those guys are laughing about it. And if they need to be told privately, then say: \u201cLook, this is the new lay of the land. You guys will never even compete with my wife. She will always be first. There\u2019s not even a second place,\u201d\u2014and they need to be told that, perhaps, even individually if they don\u2019t get the message. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But I think it\u2019s really key, in the midst of this, for your wife not to have the sense that your night out with the guys: \u201cMan! You love that!\u201d \/ spending time with her: \u201cThat\u2019s okay; but you really can\u2019t wait for Friday night when you get to go out with the guys.\u201d\u00a0 That sends a message in marriage that says, \u201cMarriage is okay, but I\u2019m still kind of a single guy.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jess: <\/strong>Well, there is a little bit of singleness left in all guys when they\u2019re first married. I mean, you\u2019ve really taken on a whole new dimension. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You think?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jess: <\/strong>Well, I did. I think you guys probably started off much better than I did, but\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s a dangerous assumption. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jess: <\/strong>But what we do is\u2014we learn each other that first year, especially. And this is why it takes a little patience and a <em>lot<\/em> of communication on both sides and come up with a solution that fits both of you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut yes, you don\u2019t want to communicate competition with your wife on any level\u2014not the guys\u2019 night, not her family \/ your family, not your job. That\u2019s part of becoming a loyal leader \/ a protector so that she doesn\u2019t feel like she\u2019s being supplanted or competed with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Good wisdom from Jess MacCallum from a past <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> program. What he is saying, Dennis, is\u2014part of the way we love our wives is we make sure they know they are set apart \/ they\u2019re special; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. A way you can make your wife feel special is by having a few questions that you ask her all the time that will reveal to you what her real needs are all about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>In fact, we had Pastor Tom Elliff join us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, along with his wife Jeannie. Jeannie, by the way, has since gone to glory \/ she is at home with Jesus. Not long ago, Tom was remarried. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s probably pulled out his book on the <em>10 Questions Every Husband Should Ask<\/em>. We\u2019ve only got time to hear one of them, but it\u2019s a great question. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tom: <\/strong>Number one: \u201cWhat could I do to cause you to feel more loved?\u201d\u00a0 You think: \u201cOh, I know what I want!\u00a0 I want you to whisk me away to some romantic hideaway.\u201d\u00a0 I guess I better just go ahead and tell you what she said. She said\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No; no. Let\u2019s let her tell us what\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeannie: <\/strong>I don\u2019t remember all of them. He remembers it better than I do. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tom: <\/strong>Well, you know, I had all these romantic visions in my head. She said, \u201cYou know, I really would like it, when we\u2019re in public, for you <em>always<\/em> to pull my chair out for me.\u201d\u00a0 Wow!\u00a0 I thought: \u201cThat\u2019s not a romantic hideaway. This is not where we\u2019re headed here. This is something else for me to do!\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You guys speak different love languages; don\u2019t you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tom: <\/strong>Well, you know, that\u2019s the truth. Boy, this was a wake-up call to me. You know, I consider myself a fairly polite person; but we had been in some <em>huge<\/em> crowds, in recent weeks, surrounding that time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019d been pulled away with one group, and she\u2019d be pulled away with another group; you know?\u00a0 And we\u2019d get back together, and we\u2019d be racing off to another meeting. I think I let some of my comportment slip a little bit; and she said, \u201cYou know, I want to know that you know I am here in the midst of all these other people. I want to\u2026\u201d\u2014I think this is what she was saying; is that right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeannie: <\/strong>Exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tom: <\/strong>\u201cI want you to know that I\u2019m here.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Jeannie, you had to feel safe and secure to be able to even\u2014I mean, that doesn\u2019t sound very threatening; but a lot of husbands would hear something like that from their wife, and they\u2019d start to get defensive. They\u2019d start to go: \u201cWell, now, wait\u2026\u201d and they\u2019d back pedal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jeannie: <\/strong>Right. I knew, from the beginning of this experience, that we shared there in that restaurant that this was a serious thing to him. He was going to really listen to me. I knew this was not: \u201cHoney, listen to me,\u201d \/ \u201cHuh?\u201d\u00a0 This was a real occasion that was different. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s fun to listen back to Tom and Jeannie Elliff, from many years ago, as they joined us on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd that\u2019s a great question for a man to ask his wife, but you better be ready for what the answer is; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. I mentioned earlier that I opened the door for Barbara. Well, there\u2019s another way to make sure you\u2019re acknowledging her presence; and that is while having dinner with other couples, going out to eat. Sometimes, I can get excited about what we\u2019re doing, here, at FamilyLife. I can start talking to somebody, who is also equally interested in what God\u2019s doing through this ministry. I can kind of bulldoze my way through the evening and not allow Barbara to share what God\u2019s doing in her life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Never a part of the conversation; huh?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. So, it\u2019s been interesting to grow in that area, as a man. I was about a 0 on a 10-point scale in our first year. I think I\u2019m north of a 5,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Good. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014now, at year 45. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tStill got a long ways to go, but I really do enjoy hearing her share and having her be a part of the conversation. I don\u2019t\u2014looking back on an evening, I have no delight in taking over the conversation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want her to be in on it, and that does make her feel loved. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Some of our listeners may want to see Tom Elliff\u2019s complete list of his ten questions that he asked his wife. We\u2019ve got that on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com. In fact, there are links\u2014if you\u2019d like to listen to all of the conversations and messages that we\u2019ve just heard portions of today\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com and follow the links. 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Again, pray that we\u2019ll be able to take full advantage of this matching-gift opportunity, here, during August.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we are going to continue talking about a husband\u2019s responsibility in marriage. We\u2019re going to shift from talking about loving your wife to talking about God\u2019s call to lead your wife. It\u2019s one of the ways you love her. And in fact, we\u2019re going to talk about what leading your wife shouldn\u2019t look like, because a lot of guys have got that wrong. We\u2019ll talk more about it tomorrow. Hope you can join us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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