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When we\u2019re hurting, we can do or say things we wish later we hadn\u2019t done or said. Hank remembers getting some very wise counsel.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>I had a <em>great<\/em> Christian friend that came to me. I was living with Hank, Jr. When you\u2019re hurting, you tend to vent. This man came up to me and put his arm around me; and he said: \u201cI know you\u2019re hurting, and I know you\u2019re living with Hank, Jr. I\u2019m not accusing you of anything, but I just want to tell you\u2014if you are venting anything about your marriage to your son, that\u2019s his mom; and you\u2019re making a horrible mistake.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, June 9<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll talk today to world champion fisherman, Hank Parker, and hear some of the lessons life has taught him as he has learned to walk with Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tStay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. You know, we have some listeners who have been tuned in\u2014and we\u2019ve been talking about hunting and fishing this week\u2014and really talking about family and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; I have to say, Bob, there have been some pretty gritty conversations with Hank Parker.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It has been, but I know we have listeners, who are going: \u201cI\u2019m just not an outdoor fish-and-hunt kind of guy, and I\u2019ve just never been into that kind of thing. Can a guy just go do it by himself?\u201d They\u2019re wondering whether this is something they ought to give a whirl to; and if they should, how do they do it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, they just need to find someone who can mentor them a little bit, because no one just walks in the woods and becomes a hunter. And frankly, being a fisherman as well\u2014it helps to find somebody who knows how to do it. Would you agree, Hank?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>Well, we live in a unique time. It is <em>incredible<\/em> how much information is on the Internet\u2014so you can get it all. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can go to any of the archery companies: \u201cHow to,\u201d \u201cWhere do I start?\u201d \u201cWhat do I need?\u201d Any of the boat companies can tell you how to get started fishing. You can go to the game and fish sites, and they can tell you where all public fishing is at. It\u2019s all out there; so it\u2019s so easy to find if you\u2019re an Internet searcher. That doesn\u2019t fit me very well, but for most people they go for that. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But if a guy\u2019s a novice\u2014he\u2019s never done any of this before\u2014and he\u2019s thinking: \u201cWell, maybe this weekend we should go do something. Maybe I should take my sons fishing.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>Absolutely, without a doubt. You could go and you could hit your local fish and game website. They tell you where there\u2019s public fishing \/ where there\u2019s public access to launch boats\u2014anything you want to know, it\u2019s all there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, if anybody should know, the guy we\u2019re talking to this week should know; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No doubt about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s won the national championship of B.A.S.S. fishing twice \/ in the Hall of Fame of bass fishing as well\u2014and has his own outdoor show called <em>Hank Parker\u2019s Outdoor Magazine<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>That\u2019s it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019ve had a chance to be a guest on his show.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>In fact, how could people watch the episode of you and Dennis? Is there some way they could see that? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>You know, I don\u2019t know\u2014that will air on Pursuit Network next year \/ it aired this year on the Outdoor Channel\u2014so I\u2019m really not positive. You can go to our website, HankParker.com, and you can get information on where that show will air or how to obtain a copy of that show.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; there you go \/ there you go.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo here\u2019s my question for you, Hank\u2014and by the way, Hank Parker\u2019s married to Martha, has four sons and a daughter, eleven grandchildren. I saw them all on <em>Hank Parker\u2019s Outdoor Magazine<\/em>\u2014he took them fishing together. It looked like a man in an anthill with all those kids fishing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>I have to clarify also\u2014Martha has a wonderful daughter and two sons\u2014so we\u2019re a blended family. I have five and she has three; collectively, we have eleven grandkids\u2014how awesome is that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh, that\u2019s great. I\u2019m glad you did correct me there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, if I said to you: \u201cHank, you had one place to go fishing. Conditions were going to be perfect\u2014you could go <em>anywhere<\/em> in the world\u2014where would you go and why?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>Oh, man, that is so tough. I have those decisions that I have to make each year. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014because you can go wherever you want to go!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>I do; I <em>literally<\/em> do. This year, I chose my favorite place to fish in the whole wide world\u2014is Venice, Louisiana, on the Gulf of Mexico. You guys went on a cruise and left from the port of Louisiana. You went right by my fishing hole at the southwest path, where the Mississippi river meets the Gulf of Mexico.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So are you fishing for red fish?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>Big, giant red fish on bass tackle\u2014it is unbelievable.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think I\u2019ve seen one of those shows.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>Oh, it\u2019s so much fun.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You caught a <em>lot<\/em> of fish doing that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>Oh, we caught 200 on top water one year. I took a group of guys from the FCA down there\u2014Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Man, we had so much fun catching fish. We caught over 200 in the group.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Unbelievable.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, let\u2019s talk about family for a moment. You\u2019ve kind of broken your life into three chapters: One, the family you grew up in\u2014where you had a dad who struggled with alcoholism \/ had a dramatic conversion to Christ\u2014which ultimately led to your conversion, as a young man, later on. And then, you began a career in fishing. Ultimately, your success cost you your marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou turned a corner, though, upon that point and headed toward the third chapter in your life, which you\u2019ve said has been remarkable\u201415 years of walking with Christ, and serving Him, and seeing Him at work in your marriage and your family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTake us back to that turning point, the divorce; and help us kind of find our way through this third chapter in your life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>Well, you know, I learned, early on, when I went through all those hard times, I had a great, <em>great<\/em> Christian friend that came to me. I was living with Hank, Jr. When you\u2019re hurting, you tend to vent. This man came up to me and put his arm around me; and he said: \u201cI know you\u2019re hurting, and I know you\u2019re living with Hank, Jr. I\u2019m not accusing you of anything, but I just want to tell you\u2014if you are venting anything about your marriage to your son, that\u2019s his mom; and you\u2019re making a horrible mistake. You need not lean on him, as a friend; because he is not your friend\u2014he is your son. He still needs a dad. He needs a strong father figure\u2014he needs a man that has respect for his mother. You need to be on your game to be able to have an influence that will be positive on that young man.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was some of the best advice I\u2019ve ever gotten. It was at a very low point in my life, and I was guilty of what he was assuming I may be doing. It changed everything about the way I started behaving and prioritizing\u2014trying to be the dad I needed to be\u2014even though things were not the best in my life at that period of time. I just started trying to be the godly father that I needed to be, in <em>spite<\/em> of my condition.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You shared with me about your sons and your daughter\u2014and just how well they seem to be doing and walking with Christ. You know, there are a lot of things we, as parents, can do in terms of our failures; but in the end, if they\u2019re doing well, all is well with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You agree?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>Yes; that is absolutely true. Hank, Jr., has <em>always<\/em> been the model kid. He and I raced together\u2014we were best friends \/ he\u2019s my firstborn son, and we just had this incredible relationship. Spiritually, I watched him grow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have five children, and every relationship I have is completely different\u2014it\u2019s <em>amazing<\/em>. But Billy\u2014you know, we got into racing. I was good buddies with Dale Earnhardt. We were down at the farm one weekend, and the following Monday, I had to go pick up a race car that Earnhardt [sold] to Hank, Jr., that belonged to Dale, Jr. So, we got involved in the racing business.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe started out\u2014we just started racing Late Model at the little local track right out of Charlotte, North Carolina. Then, that grew to NASCAR<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and NASCAR\u2019s All Pro Division. That went from NASCAR\u2019s All Pro Division to NASCAR\u2019s Grand National Division. Hank, Jr., ran a couple of events; but primarily, raced in what was called the Nationwide Series last year. I\u2019m not sure what it is this year\u2014the [Xfinity] Series, I think.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But there was a moment you described in your son\u2019s life, where he had a chance to go big-time. I remember just sitting on the edge of my seat, listening, as you\u2014as a dad\u2014shared about a choice that your son made. I think, in order to share the story, you need to share a little bit more of the context for your family and kind of why this choice was heroic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>Well, I\u2019ll kind of try to disguise\u2014keep the names of the innocent out of it\u2014to keep from discriminating against the race owner. Billy was just an incredible NASCAR All Pro driver and Late Model driver. He built his own cars. One of the NASCAR former heroes of the sport had a son that was racing. He went to several of the races and saw Billy run. He was starting a Grand National team of his own, and he asked Billy to be his driver. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was just a dream come true. Everything was just unbelievable for Billy, and he was excited. He loved racing and was very talented at it\u2014very, very talented.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>This was one of the top racing companies on\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>It was one of the top racing personalities who started a brand new team. But he worked with one of the top four of all NASCAR teams\u2014the driver did. He took Billy\u2014and this is funny \/ I\u2019ll have to tell this story really quickly\u2014Billy asked me, before he was going into the meeting with him\u2014he said: \u201cDad, I think he may offer me the job to drive the car. How much should I ask for?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said: \u201cWell, don\u2019t ask for anything. Let him make an offer.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said, \u201cWell, what do you think?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cWell, I wouldn\u2019t drive, Billy, for less than $50,000.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cAh, I don\u2019t know if he\u2019ll pay me that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said, \u201cI would demand $50,000 if I have to win it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cAh, I don\u2019t know, Dad.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said: \u201cBilly, don\u2019t <em>say<\/em> anything. Let him make the offer.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMan, I was on pins and needles waiting for that meeting. To make a long story short, when it was over, I think he paid him a $150,000 plus half the winnings, you know. Of course, the driver volunteered that. That was a big deal. You know, you come from working in the garage, and eating bologna on white bread, and all of a sudden, you\u2019re making enough money to eat filet mignon. It was a big deal for Billy. We were all excited for him, knowing that he was going to really make his mark at NASCAR.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHadn\u2019t been racing very long and this driver said: \u201cI\u2019m going to take you over and introduce you to the big boss. We\u2019re going to have a little meeting.\u201d Well, when they get there, they\u2019re in a room that looks like a galley of a billion-dollar yacht\u2014all teak wood and gigantic office. They have this sheet over something in the center of the room. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey pull the sheet off of the easel that it was covered with the photograph\u2014or the drawing\u2014of Billy getting the [word muffled] handed to him by the other driver, and it was an alcoholic beverage. Billy said, \u201cI can\u2019t accept this.\u201d They said: \u201cWell, you know, we\u2019ll give you time to think about it. We didn\u2019t mean to spring this on you.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said: \u201cNo; I don\u2019t need time to think about it. My grandfather was a drunk; and my dad is very much against alcohol, and he\u2019s taught me,\u201d and he said, \u201cI just\u2014I\u2019m not comfortable doing this, and I never will be. So it\u2019s not about time. It would be unfair to you guys to say, \u2018Well, give me a day or two,\u2019 because I don\u2019t need any time.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBilly didn\u2019t volunteer all that to me, and I may not have it <em>exactly<\/em> the way it all went down; but from what I got from the meeting was\u2014of course, it ended his career\u2014and I later did talk to him, one on one, on the phone and I said: \u201cBilly, I can\u2019t believe that this has happened to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cIt\u2019s unfair that you\u2019re going to get pushed out because you\u2014\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said: \u201cDad. Dad, Dad, wait. It\u2019s not unfair, and it\u2019s not anything to do with the race team. It\u2019s not anything to do with the alcoholic company. It\u2019s a God-thing. I have a decision to make, and I\u2019m going to make the right one. It doesn\u2019t have anything to do with anybody but me and the Lord.\u201d He said: \u201cI know what I\u2019m going to do, and I\u2019m not sad about it. I\u2019m going to move on.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat was pretty much the end of his racing career. He did have a wreck two weeks or three weeks after that occurred, and that ended him for sure; but he was doomed by rejecting that. And of course, he knew he would be when he did it; but he did it because it was, in his heart, the right thing to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of the top sponsors in NASCAR\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>\u2014one of the top teams.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe walked away and walked out of the meeting, where there was the ultimate, in my opinion, in peer pressure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>No doubt about that. He is the one son that I would <em>not<\/em> have expected that from. I would not have been surprised\u2014Hank, Jr., had had a similar circumstance and had already stood tall; but I didn\u2019t really know Billy would be that strong. It just\u2014I cannot tell you, as a dad, how proud I was of his decision.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Have you had to face similar situations? I mean, when I think of B.A.S.S. fishing, you take a cooler out when you go B.A.S.S. fishing; don\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>All these B.A.S.S. fishermen face this. Just several years ago, when ESPN bought B.A.S.S., you had to wear a beer sticker on your jersey; and you had to put one on the windshield of your boat. There were several guys\u2014Jimmy Houston for one, and I\u2019ll give Jimmy a shout-out\u2014Jimmy refused it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut he had sponsorships to fish the tournament. So, he fished the tournament without the patch and without the sticker and didn\u2019t get points. But he had made a commitment to his sponsors that he would be there, so he participated even though he got no points for the Classic.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Wow. What would you say would be the thing you did to contribute to your son\u2019s character to making a courageous decision like that, Hank?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>That is the most flattering part of all of it\u2014is I think that my son knew my heart. He cared enough about <em>my<\/em> convictions \/ that he respected them enough that it became his convictions. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve always tried to be transparent with my kids. I never, ever wanted to be a fake. My kids know my good, my bad, and my ugly\u2014they know I\u2019m real. They know I\u2019m real, and that was the most flattering part; because I wasn\u2019t sure\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014he\u2019s a young man with a lot of ambition, and a lot of crossroads, and you\u2019re eager to make a mark in life, and you <em>love<\/em> the sport so much\u2014I just wasn\u2019t sure that he was there in maturity, and I wasn\u2019t sure that he had those respects. I think, if it\u2019s all said and done, I think all I was with him was real; and he saw that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well Hank, I\u2019ve really enjoyed our conversation we\u2019ve had this week with you. There\u2019s been one other assignment that I\u2019ve been wanting to give you. It\u2019s something you\u2019ve done a good job of as you\u2019ve told your stories about your mom and your dad\u2014it\u2019s the fifth commandment\u2014that we are to honor our mother and our father. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA number of years ago, God placed a burden on my heart with my parents that I needed to write a tribute to them. I waited too late with my dad; he died suddenly at the age of 66; but I didn\u2019t wait too long with my mom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI wrote my mom a tribute. The only mistake I made was not taking it to her and reading to her, face to face.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut I think what I\u2019d like to do is\u2014if I had the ability to seat your dad, right now, across the table from you\u2014and I said: \u201cHank, I want you to turn to your dad, right now, and give him a tribute\u2014not for the years that were wasted\u2014but for how he redeemed, ultimately, what he was given when he placed his faith in Christ and turned away from alcoholism\u2014and not being much of a father, or a husband, or a citizen\u2014he became God\u2019s man.\u201d Could you give him a tribute?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>I could. I sure could. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would say to my dad: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDad, I know you were bogged down with and shackled by an addiction that you didn\u2019t want to be; and when you had the chance, you accepted Jesus Christ and you turned your life around. You cared more about my soul than you cared about anything else, me and my brother. I\u2019m so grateful to you that you prioritized our salvation above yourself \/ above anything that you wanted in this <em>whole<\/em> world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I thank you so much for <em>living<\/em> the life, those five years, for living the life\u2014having the attitude, the spirit, and being patient with me. I thank you that you loved me enough. You prayed for me, you were patient, and you were so incredibly persistent. You <em>never<\/em> let up; and I\u2019m so grateful, Dad. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would not be the man I am and I would have no hope. I was destined for hell\u2014I had a bad attitude. You knew it all, Dad; but you loved me enough, you stuck with me. I have two great fathers that I\u2019ll spend eternity with. I thank you, and I love you; and you\u2019re awesome.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I don\u2019t know if folks in heaven can hear things; but I have a feeling, if they can, your dad has a big grin on his face right now. I\u2019m confident, Hank\u2014just on the amount of time you and I have spent over the past year together\u2014there are a lot of reasons for him to be proud of you. You\u2019re about the King\u2019s business, representing Christ and proclaiming Him. I really admire your heart for introducing other people to Jesus Christ\u2014the person, the Redeemer, the God-Man\u2014who died for you and your father and who made a difference in your dad\u2019s life and yours as well. I\u2019m grateful to God for you and the man you are. Thanks for joining us on the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>Man, I just appreciate the opportunity to be here. What an awesome program you have and what a beautiful facility. If people have never seen this before, they need to come to Little Rock to tour. This is awesome. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They sure do. I hope you\u2019ll come back and bring Martha next time. I\u2019ll treat you to my blackened salmon out on my deck.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Hank: <\/strong>I may just hold you to that. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It\u2019s worth a trip\u2014I\u2019ll vouch for it; okay? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I\u2019m glad you mentioned tours, because we would encourage folks: \u201cIf your summertime plans have you coming anywhere near Little Rock, swing by and just let us know that you\u2019d like a tour of our headquarters. We have tour groups who tour the office regularly\u2014get a chance to see the studios and see all that\u2019s happening, here, at FamilyLife. If we\u2019re around, we\u2019d love to say, \u201cHi!\u201d to you. So, if you\u2019re coming this way this summer, stop by FamilyLife headquarters and ask for a tour. Or call ahead if you\u2019d like\u2014just call 1-800-FL-TODAY and let us know you\u2019re coming. We\u2019ll make plans to welcome you when you get here. And there\u2019s no cost for the tour\u2014we\u2019re always glad to have folks stop by.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I mentioned earlier this week about dads and sons going through the <em>Stepping Up<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> video series together. We\u2019ve heard from listeners, who said, \u201cThat sounds like that could be a good idea,\u201d especially if you have teenage sons and you\u2019re looking for a way to connect with them and with their friends this summer. Our recommendation is that a group of dads and a group of sons just plan to get together once a week\u2014have a cookout \/ do something fun together\u2014and then watch a 30-minute video from the <em>Stepping Up <\/em>series \/ spend some time talking about what you watched. We have workbooks that\u2019ll help guide your discussion.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think what you\u2019ll find, if you do that\u2014a lot of lessons that your sons \/ your young men can learn by going through this series with you. And you\u2019ll learn a few things yourself, no matter what your age is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFind out more about the <em>Stepping Up <\/em>video series when you go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or give us a call if you have any questions at 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, this weekend, in Houston, Texas, and in Austin, Texas, we have FamilyLife <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaways taking place\u2014hundreds of couples from all over the state of Texas, and actually, a lot of folks flying in for the weekend\u2014a great getaway for husbands and wives to relax, refresh, laugh together, and be reminded of what the Bible teaches us about how to build a stronger, healthier marriage relationship. That\u2019s what the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> is all about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would just like to ask you, pray for these couples who are going to be going to a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJust take a minute, right now, and just say a prayer for them\u2014that they will sense God\u2019s presence this weekend and that they\u2019ll hear Him clearly as we seek to present what the Bible has to say about marriage and family. That\u2019s our goal, here, at FamilyLife. We want to effectively develop godly marriages and families\u2014we believe that can change the world.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we owe a special \u201cThank you,\u201d to FamilyLife listeners, who do more than just listen\u2014those of you who go, online, or give us a call, or mail in a donation\u2014we\u2019re grateful for you. You really make the impact of this ministry happen. You enable us to take this message to more people every day in more ways because of your financial support.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019ve never made a donation to FamilyLife, and you\u2019re a longtime listener, how about today being the day you join the FamilyLife team with a donation? You can do that, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Or mail your donation to us at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you have a great weekend this weekend. I hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church. And I hope you can be back with us on Monday. Next week is all about dads, with Father\u2019s Day coming. 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