{"id":304532,"date":"2017-06-02T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2017-06-02T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/summer-reading-for-adults\/"},"modified":"2017-06-02T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2017-06-02T15:00:00","slug":"summer-reading-for-adults","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/summer-reading-for-adults\/","title":{"rendered":"Summer Reading for Adults"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>guest: Barbara Rainey, Tracy Lane | Series: Summer Reading for Families | Most readers have more than one book going at a time.  Gain insight into the value of reading no matter what the age from authors Barbara Rainey and Tracy Lane.  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Tracy Lane says that\u2019s okay, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Sometimes, we need a little mindless release; but that\u2019s not going to get us where we want to go and grow as a person. Being able to incorporate book reading in our lives\u2014those outside ideas \/ that inspiration\u2014to become better people and think of things we wouldn\u2019t think of on our own\u2014that\u2019s worth it! I think that\u2019s what books do. They\u2019re going to push us and take us somewhere where we wouldn\u2019t naturally choose to go. That\u2019s not what a Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> news feed is going to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, June 2<sup>nd<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. Stop and ask yourself this question, \u201cWhen was the last time you read a book?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s been a while? We\u2019ve got some encouragement for you today. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. A lot of people this time of year start thinking about vacation, and they will start putting aside books that they hope to read when they\u2019re on vacation. It\u2019s kind of like, \u201cI\u2019m finally going to get to that book.\u201d I usually walk out with three or four books, and I\u2019m lucky if I got one of them read by the time I get back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There is something about a week off and just the opportunity to read that a lot of people look forward to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; I take too many books as well. If I can finish one\u2014like recently, I read just a great, great story from the Depression era called <em>The Boys in the Boat<\/em>. It\u2019s about something I knew very little about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You typically have a book going at all times; don\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Something that you\u2019re plowing your way through. How long does it take you to go through it typically?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Don\u2019t ask me to answer that. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Especially in front of his wife. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There\u2019s an eyewitness!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I mean, sometimes, I go through pretty quickly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Other times\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014as in a couple of days \/ a couple of weeks?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh\u2014not days!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Not days\u2014okay; alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No; no. The eyelids become heavy. [Laughter] I read another book called <em>The Emerald Mile<\/em>, which is the history of the Grand Canyon and a story of a guy, in a dory \/ a homemade wooden boat, where he ran the Colorado River down through the Grand Canyon, over 150 miles, <em>at flood stage<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Set a record for speed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; set a record. But here\u2019s the thing\u2014the literature was <em>rich<\/em> in terms of its writing\u2014it was not just merely an adventure. That\u2019s what we want to expose\u2014our children to, our teenagers, our own lives\u2014 to broaden our minds and keep them alive with something other than an electronic screen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s clear to our listeners that your wife, Barbara, is back with us again today. Welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Thank you Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We also have Tracy Lane joining us again\u2014Tracy, welcome.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Thank you\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tracy is a part of the team, here, at FamilyLife and works with Ever Thine Home<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and is an advocate for reading as well. We\u2019ve talked this week about reading to our kids and the importance of getting our kids to read. They\u2019re not the only ones that need to be reading. Barbara, you typically have a book going at all times too; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; I do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You get through yours a little more quickly than your husband?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, we had a little bit of a fight about <em>The Boys in the Boat<\/em> book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I started it, and she took it away!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You started the fight?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Can this marriage be saved? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> We have very different reading styles. When I get a book that I really like\u2014like <em>Boys in the Boat<\/em> or <em>Emerald Mile<\/em> \/ both of those books\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just kind of wave \u201cGood bye,\u201d to her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She just kind of goes away into her bedroom. Tracy, you\u2019re grinning\u2014you too?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes; for Christmas, right before my husband and I went on our babymoon\u2014we were pregnant with our first\u2014he got me <em>The Hunger Game<\/em> series. Well, that\u2019s what I enjoyed on our babymoon. He\u2019s like: \u201cBabe, are we spending time together; or are you spending time with <em>The Hunger Games<\/em>?\u201d [Laughter] \u201cWait! I just have this next page.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cOne more chapter.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> I couldn\u2019t put it down!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ve never heard the phrase \u201cbabymoon.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Oh yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Oh yes; babymoons are big things. Really, you\u2019ve not heard of them? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I had not. Sorry!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> You guys should have another baby and go on a babymoon. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think Barbara and I are going to do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> No; we\u2019re not.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> You could do a babymoon.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> But I read that way too. When I get a book, I don\u2019t want to put it down\u2014especially if it\u2019s <em>really<\/em> good like these two books he just mentioned. I wanted to read them first; because I knew it might take him three or four months, because he travels and so he won\u2019t take it with him. So, I read first.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She gets real possessive of her books, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I mean\u2014she really does. I tried to read this one book\u2014she said: \u201cAre you going to lose that book? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I do!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cI really love that book. I\u2019ve got a lot of my notes in that book.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Do you have a history of losing books?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think so. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Maybe once or twice? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She\u2019s got a book called <em>The Evidential Power of Beauty<\/em>. I admit\u2014I started this book; and she took it away from me and then, I think, got me my own copy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There we go. So\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, that was one book that I didn\u2019t want him to lose; because I have underlined it heavily. It\u2019s sort of a reference book to me, and I didn\u2019t\u2019 want him losing one of my favorite books.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tracy, you mentioned <em>Hunger Games<\/em>. I know we\u2019re going to talk about grownups reading today, but <em>Hunger Games<\/em> is one of those books that grab the attention of a lot of young people. A lot of Christian parents, wondering, \u201cShould I be letting my kids read <em>Hunger Games?\u201d<\/em>\u2014<em>Harry Potter<\/em> was the same way. How does a parent make a judgment without actually reading the book himself or herself; or is that the best way to make a judgment on whether you are going to let your kids read these books?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> I would say read it yourself. You want to be involved with what your family is reading \/ with what your kids are reading. And, just as Barbara and Dennis are talking about, then you can have those conversations. It\u2019s such a great starting place for questions \/ ideas\u2014answers that you can offer, as a parent. Your kids are thinking about those things anyway\u2014it doesn\u2019t take that book to introduce it. They\u2019re going to be talking about it with their friends. You\u2019d rather be, and better be, talking about it at home too. If you\u2019ve read it, you can address it appropriately and have the discussions that you need to have <em>inside<\/em> the home that you know are happening outside the home.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Barbara, that\u2019s not happening\u2014there are not a lot of grownups who are reading books.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; I found this quote\u2014it\u2019s actually from the BreakPoint Commentary\u2014but Eric Metaxas quoted a literacy project foundation that discovered that 44 percent of American adults don\u2019t\u2019 read a <em>single<\/em> book in a year. That is just <em>staggering<\/em> to me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you say 44 percent?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Forty-four percent\u2014so that\u2019s just less than half. Then the report also states that six out of ten households don\u2019t even buy one book a year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I saw that, I thought, \u201cHow can that be?\u201d I mean, I just can\u2019t even imagine a life without reading. I can\u2019t imagine not enriching my life on a regular basis with books \/ with good books.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Do you think audio books are the same? I mean, somebody says, \u201cI like audio books.\u201d Is that just as good?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I think they are. We listened\u2014every summer, we listened when we drove to Colorado in the summer for Dennis to teach this class he taught. We listened to <em>The Chronicles of Narnia<\/em> on audio books all the way out and all the way back, year after year after year. I think it had the same effect because, again, you\u2019re hearing the words of the book. We\u2019re all listening, and so we\u2019re imagining the fawn, and the white witch, and the\u2014all the things that happened. I think if it\u2019s read well\u2014and most audio books are really read well\u2014I think they work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Tracy, you nodded your head. Do you listen to audio books?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes; I think, in our busy day and age, everyone\u2019s rushing here \/ rushing there. As a mom of young kids, too, we\u2019re rushing to the next practice \/ to the next something\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014we\u2019ve always got something going on\u2014that\u2019s a way for me to make time for it. I don\u2019t have time in this season of life to sit down with my novel and just enjoy that for hours at a time. But I do have time\u2014going from here to there in the car \/ during exercise in the morning\u2014to turn on an audio book. That is still the way I can carve out a little bit of time for that creativity and imagination that this season of life doesn\u2019t always lend itself to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re a young mom. What\u2019s been a favorite that you\u2019ve listened to recently?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Well, one that I\u2019m reading right now is Ann Voskamp\u2019s, <em>One Thousand Gifts<\/em>. We just really try to focus on gratitude in our family and enjoy the time that we have with our kids every day. That can be hard sometimes\u2014it\u2019s definitely challenging in this season of life. Reading that helps me remember\u2014when it\u2019s hard \/ when it feels impossible\u2014there\u2019s something to be thankful for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> A lot of our listeners will make a part of their regular rhythm of life some time in God\u2019s Word. Maybe, they\u2019ve got a devotional book that they read alongside of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf they\u2019re couples, they may be using the book you guys have written, <em>Moments with You<\/em> or <em>Moments Together for Couples<\/em>. And then, on top of that, they think, \u201cI\u2019m supposed to add a book here?\u201d and \u201cShould it be fiction or nonfiction?\u201d \u201cShould it be Christian\/non-Christian?\u201d How do you determine whether you\u2019re going to read something that is spiritually-focused or something that\u2019s just history, or literature, or whatever?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I don\u2019t have a formula, because I\u2019m not very good at keeping that kind of a rhythm going in my life. I do know that I need some variance in whatever I read. I like to read books that teach me\u2014and that I underline and I get ideas and things I need to put into practice in my life\u2014I enjoy books like that. But if I read too many of them in a row, then I just begin to feel like I\u2019m under this load of: \u201cI\u2019ve got to do this,\u201d and \u201cI\u2019ve got to do this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, every once in a while, I need to read a book that is <em>completely<\/em> outside of my normal life, that takes me to a place I would never go, which is rafting on the Grand Canyon. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Laughter] I probably will never raft the Grand Canyon, but I have read that book\u2014and just the way he wrote the story, it took me to another place. It allowed me sort of an escape in a sense\u2014it allowed me a nice break from my normal life and my normal routine. I think books do that. I think they take us to places we will never be able to go, as human beings\u2014that, in and of itself, is refreshing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tracy, I know what has replaced book reading for a lot of younger people \/ maybe even some older people\u2014and that is Facebook reading. We don\u2019t read books anymore, because we\u2019ve spent half an hour or forty-five minutes catching up with everybody, here and there, on Facebook, and the links that they\u2019ve posted, and the cross ref\u2014is that okay?\u2014I mean, that\u2019s reading; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Not exactly the same. I like how you said, Barbara\u2014even a fiction book is going to take you somewhere that you wouldn\u2019t go. I think that\u2019s what books do. The nonfiction books\u2014they\u2019re going to push us and take us somewhere we wouldn\u2019t naturally choose to go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s not what a Facebook news feed is going to do\u2014that\u2019s mindless. [Laughter] Sometimes, we need a little mindless release; but that\u2019s not going to get us where we want to go and grow as a person. Being able to incorporate that book reading in our lives\u2014those outside ideas \/ that inspiration\u2014to become better people and think of things we wouldn\u2019t think of on our own\u2014that\u2019s worth it!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; most Facebook posts are not great literature; are they? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> No; they\u2019re not. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> No; emojis are not in the dictionary. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Our vocabulary is not being expanded \/ our thinking is not being challenged, typically, in significant ways. But good books, whether it\u2019s fiction or nonfiction\u2014good books\u2014I remember reading\u2014I think it was Ken Gire, who made the statement, years ago\u2014he said, \u201cGood literature or good art is like a stool that you can step up on so you can look out a window that you couldn\u2019t look out of before and now you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I like that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014see things you didn\u2019t see before.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; it\u2019s true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s the <em>value<\/em> of the arts for us\u2014is it causes our thinking, not just our thinking, but our emotions to develop in ways that our own lives may not cause that to happen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Here\u2019s another thing that I think it does. I think it models for us, when we\u2014especially when we read about other people\u2014it models for us courage, or boldness, or faith, or all kinds of attributes that we want to grow in our lives anyway. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis and I read the book, <em>Endurance<\/em>, the story of Ernest Shackleton\u2019s trip to the South Pole. I have <em>never<\/em> forgotten that book because of his courage, his unwavering faith in God, his ability to rally his men \/ to cheer them on, to say: \u201cWe\u2019re going to make it. It\u2019s going to be okay. We\u2019re going to get out of this.\u201d And then, the risk he took to sail to this little island that\u2014I mean, the odds of him finding that island in the middle of that storm were almost <em>zero<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, just reading about somebody else\u2019s life, I think is such an inspiration to our own lives. It calls us up\u2014it\u2019s like standing on the stool\u2014it calls us up to another level: \u201cI want to be courageous like that,\u201d \u201cI want to have faith like that.\u201d I think we all need inspiration, because that\u2019s what faith is. We\u2019re inspired by what God has called us to, and I think good books help us do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That book is a great book on leadership without being\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u2014without being titled: \u201cA Book on Leadership.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Exactly; exactly. I just encourage our listeners\u2014if you read that book or the book, <em>Into Thin Air<\/em>\u2014which is the story of a group that went to the top of Mount Everest\u2014if you read one of those books, going to the South Pole or Mount Everest, make sure you have got plenty of clothing on. [Laughter] I nearly froze to death, in the summer, reading those two books. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Explain for our listeners\u2014you\u2019re hoping to <em>prompt<\/em> some reading this summer\u2014hoping to rally women for a\u2014it\u2019s a book club without a book. Is that what you\u2019ve got going on?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It\u2019s a book club without a book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTracy and I have put together a series of blog posts that we want to invite women to read. In those blog posts, we\u2019re encouraging women to grow in their understanding of who the Holy Spirit is, what He does for us, and how we can live the kinds of lives that God\u2019s called us to live because of the power of the Holy Spirit in us. I have a personal conviction that we don\u2019t talk about Him enough. We don\u2019t know who He is and what He does. We think of Him as just this ethereal something out there; and yet, the Bible talks a <em>lot<\/em> about the third person of the Trinity, The Holy Spirit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want to challenge women to get together with other women and do a short little six-week study. Read these blog posts together; then talk about what you learn, as a group, about the Holy Spirit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, the blog posts, Tracy, are they going to take you 15 minutes to read?\u2014less than that \/ more than that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> I\u2019d say once you get together in your group, you could plan for about an hour to be together. The blog post reading would be, probably, the first 10 minutes. Then, you can have some lively discussion and prayers for each other in your group.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, you said get together in your group. This is not something you do, as an individual, and then hop online. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Right. We\u2019re actually planning that it\u2019s more fun to do something with a friend. We want to encourage our listeners to invite their friends over to their house \/ to the coffee shop one night a week. We think Thursdays are usually a good fit in most family\u2019s weekly schedules that we\u2019ve talked about; but make it work for you. Get five or six friends; subscribe to the blog: Ever Thine Home. You will get these six weekly posts. Then you guys can read them together, and talk about the ideas, and really grow in your understanding of the Holy Spirit and your relationship with God through that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019ve got a link on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com so the listeners can get the information about how to get the blog posts. You\u2019re going to send these out, once a week, so listeners will have access to them. If you can\u2019t get a group, I guess you could do this on your own. Is there some online interaction going to happen?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes; it will be up on our blog, live. What we\u2019ll do is have the questions there, and then we\u2019ll have our comment section open. What we\u2019d like to see is\u2014some of that engagement through our social community\u2014comment there with some of your thoughts and ideas. We\u2019ll be having a conversation through that comment section on our blog posts as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, it\u2019s going to start June 8<sup>th<\/sup>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But you can do it anytime; I guess?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Right. That\u2019s when the first post will be live\u2014is on Thursday, June 8<sup>th<\/sup>. Once the posts are live, you can do them anytime. It will run for six weeks, where we\u2019ll post a new one each week for those six weeks. Just get your group of women together anytime you can over the summer. If those six weeks don\u2019t work for you\u2014again, it will be online on our blog\u2014and so make it work for you. We just want it to be a time of encouraging you to read and making it fun\u2014do it with your friends.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just want to make sure\u2014are you doing a video with this, where it\u2019s live \/ a live video?\u2014because you\u2019ve done some live videos with Barbara\u2014is that going to be live video with Barbara\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s a good idea! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014at our house? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Maybe we should. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well I just want to know\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> That\u2019s a good idea.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014because every time she does one of those, I have to pitch in and help clean the house. [Laughter] I just wonder if I need to put that on my check list here\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> You probably do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014coming up next week. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let\u2019s talk to the 44 percent of those, who are listening, who are saying: \u201cLast time I read a book was college. I didn\u2019t like reading in college; and honestly, I\u2019m hearing you guys talk; but I\u2019m really not all that motivated. I\u2019m more of a Netflix guy than a book. I\u2019m just going to go home and watch Netflix tonight.\u201d Here\u2019s your last chance to say to that wife or that husband, \u201cRead a book this summer, and here\u2019s why.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I would say: \u201cRead a book this summer. If you don\u2019t like reading, and I understand that there are people who don\u2019t like reading, then we\u2019ve talked about audio books\u2014get an audio book. Listen to it as you drive back and forth to work. Or if you have kids, that\u2019s a great excuse for picking up a book and reading; because you need to do this for your children. Moms and Dads need to be reading to their kids, no matter what the ages are.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Reading to their kids or reading apart from their kids?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Both\u2014well, both! But if you don\u2019t like to read, and you haven\u2019t read a book in a whole year, read a book with your child\u2014that counts.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Start there\u2014okay; alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Tracy, Bob\u2019s talking about people who don\u2019t like to read or who\u2014they got a lot of resistance against it anyway. You believe in incentivizing yourself to read. Talk to me about that. That sounds kind of interesting that you can reward yourself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes; it works with our kids \/ it doesn\u2019t stop working with adults. Something that I\u2019ve done\u2014when we were growing up, we\u2019d do the Pizza Hut<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> BOOK IT! lists. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I remember that; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Did you guys do this? That was so much fun. I mean, who doesn\u2019t want a personal pan pizza? I\u2019m 32, and I still would <em>love<\/em> a personal pan pizza\u2014[Laughter]\u2014knowing those things work if it\u2019s important to you. Sometimes, it is a discipline that you have to put into your life\u2014and those disciplines are worth it\u2014but sometimes, you do need a little extra pep to get there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI like to do that\u2014I like to pay myself $5 at the end of a finished book. My husband will say: \u201cHey, you can go and have a special shopping day. I\u2019ll keep the girls if that\u2019s what you want me to help you work toward.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThink of what that is to you: \u201cDo you get some time alone to go read?\u201d I mean, as a mom of young kids, that\u2019s an incentive <em>enough<\/em>\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> \u2014to have some time alone to go read. What is it that\u2019s important to you? Reading needs to be something that you\u2019re implementing into your daily life. So, find ways to make it worth it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Is bedtime when you read?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> My eyelids get heavy, like Dennis. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You get maybe five minutes and you\u2019re out?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Right. Really, when I like to read is when the girls have their naptime in the afternoon.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Got it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> They\u2019re resting\u2014the house is quiet. We try to all have that discipline in our lives of quiet time in the afternoon. I could find a lot of chores to do; but even for me, to have energy to make it until my bedtime is just to have some quiet time. A book is a good place to do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And if you have to travel and fly, airplanes are great places to read\u2014take a book along. It makes the miles go by quicker; doesn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, Bob, what would incentivize you to read a book? I just was sitting here, wondering. I was trying to guess. I have a guess\u2014I want to see what you say though.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> A trip to my 101<sup>st<\/sup> Cheesecake Factory<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> location. [Laughter] Is that what you were thinking?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Cha-ching. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Is that really what you were thinking?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I was thinking it! [Laughter] If you wanted Bob to read a book, you\u2019d offer him another Cheesecake Factory experience.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One I haven\u2019t been to already.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> So, you\u2019re up to 101.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m up to 100\u2014I haven\u2019t hit 101 yet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, I want to know\u2014our engineer, Keith Lynch, out in the control booth\u2014so, Keith, what would motivate you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> It\u2019s the RCA receiving tube manual.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There we go! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh my goodness!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That does not motivate <em>me<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He has a collection\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m not sure that even counts.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014of RCA tubes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> Hey, they count. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here\u2019s the\u2014kind of the conclusion to all of this\u2014we\u2019re hoping that many of our listeners will join us on Thursdays over the next six weeks\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014it starts next week\u2014join us on Thursdays. There is going to be a new post each week in an ongoing study about the ministry of the Holy Spirit. We\u2019ll do it over a six-week period. It\u2019s kind of an online\u2014it\u2019s not a book club, because there\u2019s not a book. It\u2019s just a study we\u2019re going to do together, where all of us can be interacting on this subject. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can find out more about the summer reading plan that Barbara, and Tracy, and the team have put together at the Ever Thine Home blog. We\u2019ve got a link on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com that\u2019ll take you right there. If you\u2019d like to join us and sign up for the Thursday reading group, over a six-week period\u2014again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link for the Ever Thine Home blog. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019re looking for resources\u2014things to read to your children this summer\u2014stories that will inspire them to be courageous, or to forgive one another\u2014things like that\u2014Barbara has written a series of books, The <em>Growing Together<\/em> series. You can find out more about the books in that series when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Or you can call to order at 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs we wrap up our week here, I want to make sure we have said an appropriate, \u201cThank you,\u201d to the many listeners who have <em>generously<\/em> supported the work of FamilyLife, particularly last month, as we were seeking to raise a significant amount of money. We appreciate <em>all<\/em> of you who contributed toward that end. FamilyLife exists because of folks, like you, who believe that this radio program, our website, our resources, and our events are all important; and we need to be reaching more people\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that\u2019s our goal \/ that\u2019s our burden here. When you invest in this ministry, you make it possible for us to do just that\u2014to reach more people, more often, with practical biblical help and hope for their marriage and their family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019re a regular listener and you\u2019ve never made a donation to support the ministry, can we invite you to do that? It\u2019s easy to do\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com to make an online donation. Or call 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life and then the word \u201cTODAY.\u201d You can make a donation over the phone. Or you can mail a donation to us. Our mailing address is PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd with that, we hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together in church this weekend. I hope you can join us back on Monday. We\u2019re going to talk about how we can tell, as parents, whether our child\u2019s faith is the real deal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know you may have a child who has prayed a prayer with you or who has been baptized\u2014and those are significant events in a child\u2019s life\u2014but does that mean that child is genuinely converted? How can we tell? We\u2019ll talk more about that with our guest on Monday, Terence Chatmon. I hope you can be here for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. Have a great weekend. We will see you Monday for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2017 FamilyLife. 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Gain insight into the value of reading no matter what the age from authors Barbara Rainey and Tracy Lane.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2017-06-02.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You ever find yourself just sitting on the sofa with the remote, mindlessly jumping from one channel to the other?\u2014or sitting with your device in your lap, or in your hand, surfing from one social media site to another, just vegging out? Tracy Lane says that\u2019s okay, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Sometimes, we need a little mindless release; but that\u2019s not going to get us where we want to go and grow as a person. Being able to incorporate book reading in our lives\u2014those outside ideas \/ that inspiration\u2014to become better people and think of things we wouldn\u2019t think of on our own\u2014that\u2019s worth it! I think that\u2019s what books do. They\u2019re going to push us and take us somewhere where we wouldn\u2019t naturally choose to go. That\u2019s not what a Facebook<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> news feed is going to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, June 2<sup>nd<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. Stop and ask yourself this question, \u201cWhen was the last time you read a book?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s been a while? We\u2019ve got some encouragement for you today. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. A lot of people this time of year start thinking about vacation, and they will start putting aside books that they hope to read when they\u2019re on vacation. It\u2019s kind of like, \u201cI\u2019m finally going to get to that book.\u201d I usually walk out with three or four books, and I\u2019m lucky if I got one of them read by the time I get back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There is something about a week off and just the opportunity to read that a lot of people look forward to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; I take too many books as well. If I can finish one\u2014like recently, I read just a great, great story from the Depression era called <em>The Boys in the Boat<\/em>. It\u2019s about something I knew very little about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You typically have a book going at all times; don\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Something that you\u2019re plowing your way through. How long does it take you to go through it typically?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Don\u2019t ask me to answer that. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Especially in front of his wife. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There\u2019s an eyewitness!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I mean, sometimes, I go through pretty quickly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Other times\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014as in a couple of days \/ a couple of weeks?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh\u2014not days!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Not days\u2014okay; alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No; no. The eyelids become heavy. [Laughter] I read another book called <em>The Emerald Mile<\/em>, which is the history of the Grand Canyon and a story of a guy, in a dory \/ a homemade wooden boat, where he ran the Colorado River down through the Grand Canyon, over 150 miles, <em>at flood stage<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Set a record for speed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; set a record. But here\u2019s the thing\u2014the literature was <em>rich<\/em> in terms of its writing\u2014it was not just merely an adventure. That\u2019s what we want to expose\u2014our children to, our teenagers, our own lives\u2014 to broaden our minds and keep them alive with something other than an electronic screen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s clear to our listeners that your wife, Barbara, is back with us again today. Welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Thank you Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We also have Tracy Lane joining us again\u2014Tracy, welcome.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Thank you\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tracy is a part of the team, here, at FamilyLife and works with Ever Thine Home<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and is an advocate for reading as well. We\u2019ve talked this week about reading to our kids and the importance of getting our kids to read. They\u2019re not the only ones that need to be reading. Barbara, you typically have a book going at all times too; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; I do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You get through yours a little more quickly than your husband?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, we had a little bit of a fight about <em>The Boys in the Boat<\/em> book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I started it, and she took it away!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You started the fight?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Can this marriage be saved? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> We have very different reading styles. When I get a book that I really like\u2014like <em>Boys in the Boat<\/em> or <em>Emerald Mile<\/em> \/ both of those books\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just kind of wave \u201cGood bye,\u201d to her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She just kind of goes away into her bedroom. Tracy, you\u2019re grinning\u2014you too?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes; for Christmas, right before my husband and I went on our babymoon\u2014we were pregnant with our first\u2014he got me <em>The Hunger Game<\/em> series. Well, that\u2019s what I enjoyed on our babymoon. He\u2019s like: \u201cBabe, are we spending time together; or are you spending time with <em>The Hunger Games<\/em>?\u201d [Laughter] \u201cWait! I just have this next page.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cOne more chapter.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> I couldn\u2019t put it down!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ve never heard the phrase \u201cbabymoon.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Oh yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Oh yes; babymoons are big things. Really, you\u2019ve not heard of them? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I had not. Sorry!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> You guys should have another baby and go on a babymoon. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think Barbara and I are going to do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> No; we\u2019re not.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> You could do a babymoon.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> But I read that way too. When I get a book, I don\u2019t want to put it down\u2014especially if it\u2019s <em>really<\/em> good like these two books he just mentioned. I wanted to read them first; because I knew it might take him three or four months, because he travels and so he won\u2019t take it with him. So, I read first.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She gets real possessive of her books, Bob.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I mean\u2014she really does. I tried to read this one book\u2014she said: \u201cAre you going to lose that book? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I do!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cI really love that book. I\u2019ve got a lot of my notes in that book.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Do you have a history of losing books?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think so. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Maybe once or twice? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She\u2019s got a book called <em>The Evidential Power of Beauty<\/em>. I admit\u2014I started this book; and she took it away from me and then, I think, got me my own copy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There we go. So\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Well, that was one book that I didn\u2019t want him to lose; because I have underlined it heavily. It\u2019s sort of a reference book to me, and I didn\u2019t\u2019 want him losing one of my favorite books.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tracy, you mentioned <em>Hunger Games<\/em>. I know we\u2019re going to talk about grownups reading today, but <em>Hunger Games<\/em> is one of those books that grab the attention of a lot of young people. A lot of Christian parents, wondering, \u201cShould I be letting my kids read <em>Hunger Games?\u201d<\/em>\u2014<em>Harry Potter<\/em> was the same way. How does a parent make a judgment without actually reading the book himself or herself; or is that the best way to make a judgment on whether you are going to let your kids read these books?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> I would say read it yourself. You want to be involved with what your family is reading \/ with what your kids are reading. And, just as Barbara and Dennis are talking about, then you can have those conversations. It\u2019s such a great starting place for questions \/ ideas\u2014answers that you can offer, as a parent. Your kids are thinking about those things anyway\u2014it doesn\u2019t take that book to introduce it. They\u2019re going to be talking about it with their friends. You\u2019d rather be, and better be, talking about it at home too. If you\u2019ve read it, you can address it appropriately and have the discussions that you need to have <em>inside<\/em> the home that you know are happening outside the home.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Barbara, that\u2019s not happening\u2014there are not a lot of grownups who are reading books.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; I found this quote\u2014it\u2019s actually from the BreakPoint Commentary\u2014but Eric Metaxas quoted a literacy project foundation that discovered that 44 percent of American adults don\u2019t\u2019 read a <em>single<\/em> book in a year. That is just <em>staggering<\/em> to me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you say 44 percent?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Forty-four percent\u2014so that\u2019s just less than half. Then the report also states that six out of ten households don\u2019t even buy one book a year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I saw that, I thought, \u201cHow can that be?\u201d I mean, I just can\u2019t even imagine a life without reading. I can\u2019t imagine not enriching my life on a regular basis with books \/ with good books.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Do you think audio books are the same? I mean, somebody says, \u201cI like audio books.\u201d Is that just as good?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I think they are. We listened\u2014every summer, we listened when we drove to Colorado in the summer for Dennis to teach this class he taught. We listened to <em>The Chronicles of Narnia<\/em> on audio books all the way out and all the way back, year after year after year. I think it had the same effect because, again, you\u2019re hearing the words of the book. We\u2019re all listening, and so we\u2019re imagining the fawn, and the white witch, and the\u2014all the things that happened. I think if it\u2019s read well\u2014and most audio books are really read well\u2014I think they work.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Tracy, you nodded your head. Do you listen to audio books?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes; I think, in our busy day and age, everyone\u2019s rushing here \/ rushing there. As a mom of young kids, too, we\u2019re rushing to the next practice \/ to the next something\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014we\u2019ve always got something going on\u2014that\u2019s a way for me to make time for it. I don\u2019t have time in this season of life to sit down with my novel and just enjoy that for hours at a time. But I do have time\u2014going from here to there in the car \/ during exercise in the morning\u2014to turn on an audio book. That is still the way I can carve out a little bit of time for that creativity and imagination that this season of life doesn\u2019t always lend itself to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re a young mom. What\u2019s been a favorite that you\u2019ve listened to recently?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Well, one that I\u2019m reading right now is Ann Voskamp\u2019s, <em>One Thousand Gifts<\/em>. We just really try to focus on gratitude in our family and enjoy the time that we have with our kids every day. That can be hard sometimes\u2014it\u2019s definitely challenging in this season of life. Reading that helps me remember\u2014when it\u2019s hard \/ when it feels impossible\u2014there\u2019s something to be thankful for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> A lot of our listeners will make a part of their regular rhythm of life some time in God\u2019s Word. Maybe, they\u2019ve got a devotional book that they read alongside of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf they\u2019re couples, they may be using the book you guys have written, <em>Moments with You<\/em> or <em>Moments Together for Couples<\/em>. And then, on top of that, they think, \u201cI\u2019m supposed to add a book here?\u201d and \u201cShould it be fiction or nonfiction?\u201d \u201cShould it be Christian\/non-Christian?\u201d How do you determine whether you\u2019re going to read something that is spiritually-focused or something that\u2019s just history, or literature, or whatever?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I don\u2019t have a formula, because I\u2019m not very good at keeping that kind of a rhythm going in my life. I do know that I need some variance in whatever I read. I like to read books that teach me\u2014and that I underline and I get ideas and things I need to put into practice in my life\u2014I enjoy books like that. But if I read too many of them in a row, then I just begin to feel like I\u2019m under this load of: \u201cI\u2019ve got to do this,\u201d and \u201cI\u2019ve got to do this.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, every once in a while, I need to read a book that is <em>completely<\/em> outside of my normal life, that takes me to a place I would never go, which is rafting on the Grand Canyon. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Laughter] I probably will never raft the Grand Canyon, but I have read that book\u2014and just the way he wrote the story, it took me to another place. It allowed me sort of an escape in a sense\u2014it allowed me a nice break from my normal life and my normal routine. I think books do that. I think they take us to places we will never be able to go, as human beings\u2014that, in and of itself, is refreshing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tracy, I know what has replaced book reading for a lot of younger people \/ maybe even some older people\u2014and that is Facebook reading. We don\u2019t read books anymore, because we\u2019ve spent half an hour or forty-five minutes catching up with everybody, here and there, on Facebook, and the links that they\u2019ve posted, and the cross ref\u2014is that okay?\u2014I mean, that\u2019s reading; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Not exactly the same. I like how you said, Barbara\u2014even a fiction book is going to take you somewhere that you wouldn\u2019t go. I think that\u2019s what books do. The nonfiction books\u2014they\u2019re going to push us and take us somewhere we wouldn\u2019t naturally choose to go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s not what a Facebook news feed is going to do\u2014that\u2019s mindless. [Laughter] Sometimes, we need a little mindless release; but that\u2019s not going to get us where we want to go and grow as a person. Being able to incorporate that book reading in our lives\u2014those outside ideas \/ that inspiration\u2014to become better people and think of things we wouldn\u2019t think of on our own\u2014that\u2019s worth it!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; most Facebook posts are not great literature; are they? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> No; they\u2019re not. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> No; emojis are not in the dictionary. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Our vocabulary is not being expanded \/ our thinking is not being challenged, typically, in significant ways. But good books, whether it\u2019s fiction or nonfiction\u2014good books\u2014I remember reading\u2014I think it was Ken Gire, who made the statement, years ago\u2014he said, \u201cGood literature or good art is like a stool that you can step up on so you can look out a window that you couldn\u2019t look out of before and now you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I like that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014see things you didn\u2019t see before.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Yes; it\u2019s true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s the <em>value<\/em> of the arts for us\u2014is it causes our thinking, not just our thinking, but our emotions to develop in ways that our own lives may not cause that to happen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Here\u2019s another thing that I think it does. I think it models for us, when we\u2014especially when we read about other people\u2014it models for us courage, or boldness, or faith, or all kinds of attributes that we want to grow in our lives anyway. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis and I read the book, <em>Endurance<\/em>, the story of Ernest Shackleton\u2019s trip to the South Pole. I have <em>never<\/em> forgotten that book because of his courage, his unwavering faith in God, his ability to rally his men \/ to cheer them on, to say: \u201cWe\u2019re going to make it. It\u2019s going to be okay. We\u2019re going to get out of this.\u201d And then, the risk he took to sail to this little island that\u2014I mean, the odds of him finding that island in the middle of that storm were almost <em>zero<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, just reading about somebody else\u2019s life, I think is such an inspiration to our own lives. It calls us up\u2014it\u2019s like standing on the stool\u2014it calls us up to another level: \u201cI want to be courageous like that,\u201d \u201cI want to have faith like that.\u201d I think we all need inspiration, because that\u2019s what faith is. We\u2019re inspired by what God has called us to, and I think good books help us do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That book is a great book on leadership without being\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> \u2014without being titled: \u201cA Book on Leadership.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Exactly; exactly. I just encourage our listeners\u2014if you read that book or the book, <em>Into Thin Air<\/em>\u2014which is the story of a group that went to the top of Mount Everest\u2014if you read one of those books, going to the South Pole or Mount Everest, make sure you have got plenty of clothing on. [Laughter] I nearly froze to death, in the summer, reading those two books. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Explain for our listeners\u2014you\u2019re hoping to <em>prompt<\/em> some reading this summer\u2014hoping to rally women for a\u2014it\u2019s a book club without a book. Is that what you\u2019ve got going on?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> It\u2019s a book club without a book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTracy and I have put together a series of blog posts that we want to invite women to read. In those blog posts, we\u2019re encouraging women to grow in their understanding of who the Holy Spirit is, what He does for us, and how we can live the kinds of lives that God\u2019s called us to live because of the power of the Holy Spirit in us. I have a personal conviction that we don\u2019t talk about Him enough. We don\u2019t know who He is and what He does. We think of Him as just this ethereal something out there; and yet, the Bible talks a <em>lot<\/em> about the third person of the Trinity, The Holy Spirit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe want to challenge women to get together with other women and do a short little six-week study. Read these blog posts together; then talk about what you learn, as a group, about the Holy Spirit. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, the blog posts, Tracy, are they going to take you 15 minutes to read?\u2014less than that \/ more than that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> I\u2019d say once you get together in your group, you could plan for about an hour to be together. The blog post reading would be, probably, the first 10 minutes. Then, you can have some lively discussion and prayers for each other in your group.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, you said get together in your group. This is not something you do, as an individual, and then hop online. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Right. We\u2019re actually planning that it\u2019s more fun to do something with a friend. We want to encourage our listeners to invite their friends over to their house \/ to the coffee shop one night a week. We think Thursdays are usually a good fit in most family\u2019s weekly schedules that we\u2019ve talked about; but make it work for you. Get five or six friends; subscribe to the blog: Ever Thine Home. You will get these six weekly posts. Then you guys can read them together, and talk about the ideas, and really grow in your understanding of the Holy Spirit and your relationship with God through that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019ve got a link on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com so the listeners can get the information about how to get the blog posts. You\u2019re going to send these out, once a week, so listeners will have access to them. If you can\u2019t get a group, I guess you could do this on your own. Is there some online interaction going to happen?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes; it will be up on our blog, live. What we\u2019ll do is have the questions there, and then we\u2019ll have our comment section open. What we\u2019d like to see is\u2014some of that engagement through our social community\u2014comment there with some of your thoughts and ideas. We\u2019ll be having a conversation through that comment section on our blog posts as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, it\u2019s going to start June 8<sup>th<\/sup>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But you can do it anytime; I guess?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Right. That\u2019s when the first post will be live\u2014is on Thursday, June 8<sup>th<\/sup>. Once the posts are live, you can do them anytime. It will run for six weeks, where we\u2019ll post a new one each week for those six weeks. Just get your group of women together anytime you can over the summer. If those six weeks don\u2019t work for you\u2014again, it will be online on our blog\u2014and so make it work for you. We just want it to be a time of encouraging you to read and making it fun\u2014do it with your friends.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just want to make sure\u2014are you doing a video with this, where it\u2019s live \/ a live video?\u2014because you\u2019ve done some live videos with Barbara\u2014is that going to be live video with Barbara\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That\u2019s a good idea! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014at our house? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Maybe we should. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well I just want to know\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> That\u2019s a good idea.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014because every time she does one of those, I have to pitch in and help clean the house. [Laughter] I just wonder if I need to put that on my check list here\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> You probably do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014coming up next week. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Let\u2019s talk to the 44 percent of those, who are listening, who are saying: \u201cLast time I read a book was college. I didn\u2019t like reading in college; and honestly, I\u2019m hearing you guys talk; but I\u2019m really not all that motivated. I\u2019m more of a Netflix guy than a book. I\u2019m just going to go home and watch Netflix tonight.\u201d Here\u2019s your last chance to say to that wife or that husband, \u201cRead a book this summer, and here\u2019s why.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> I would say: \u201cRead a book this summer. If you don\u2019t like reading, and I understand that there are people who don\u2019t like reading, then we\u2019ve talked about audio books\u2014get an audio book. Listen to it as you drive back and forth to work. Or if you have kids, that\u2019s a great excuse for picking up a book and reading; because you need to do this for your children. Moms and Dads need to be reading to their kids, no matter what the ages are.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Reading to their kids or reading apart from their kids?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Both\u2014well, both! But if you don\u2019t like to read, and you haven\u2019t read a book in a whole year, read a book with your child\u2014that counts.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Start there\u2014okay; alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Tracy, Bob\u2019s talking about people who don\u2019t like to read or who\u2014they got a lot of resistance against it anyway. You believe in incentivizing yourself to read. Talk to me about that. That sounds kind of interesting that you can reward yourself.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Yes; it works with our kids \/ it doesn\u2019t stop working with adults. Something that I\u2019ve done\u2014when we were growing up, we\u2019d do the Pizza Hut<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> BOOK IT! lists. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I remember that; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Did you guys do this? That was so much fun. I mean, who doesn\u2019t want a personal pan pizza? I\u2019m 32, and I still would <em>love<\/em> a personal pan pizza\u2014[Laughter]\u2014knowing those things work if it\u2019s important to you. Sometimes, it is a discipline that you have to put into your life\u2014and those disciplines are worth it\u2014but sometimes, you do need a little extra pep to get there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI like to do that\u2014I like to pay myself $5 at the end of a finished book. My husband will say: \u201cHey, you can go and have a special shopping day. I\u2019ll keep the girls if that\u2019s what you want me to help you work toward.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThink of what that is to you: \u201cDo you get some time alone to go read?\u201d I mean, as a mom of young kids, that\u2019s an incentive <em>enough<\/em>\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> \u2014to have some time alone to go read. What is it that\u2019s important to you? Reading needs to be something that you\u2019re implementing into your daily life. So, find ways to make it worth it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Is bedtime when you read?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> My eyelids get heavy, like Dennis. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You get maybe five minutes and you\u2019re out?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> Right. Really, when I like to read is when the girls have their naptime in the afternoon.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Got it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tracy:<\/strong> They\u2019re resting\u2014the house is quiet. We try to all have that discipline in our lives of quiet time in the afternoon. I could find a lot of chores to do; but even for me, to have energy to make it until my bedtime is just to have some quiet time. A book is a good place to do that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And if you have to travel and fly, airplanes are great places to read\u2014take a book along. It makes the miles go by quicker; doesn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, Bob, what would incentivize you to read a book? I just was sitting here, wondering. I was trying to guess. I have a guess\u2014I want to see what you say though.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> A trip to my 101<sup>st<\/sup> Cheesecake Factory<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> location. [Laughter] Is that what you were thinking?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Cha-ching. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Is that really what you were thinking?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I was thinking it! [Laughter] If you wanted Bob to read a book, you\u2019d offer him another Cheesecake Factory experience.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> One I haven\u2019t been to already.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> So, you\u2019re up to 101.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m up to 100\u2014I haven\u2019t hit 101 yet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, I want to know\u2014our engineer, Keith Lynch, out in the control booth\u2014so, Keith, what would motivate you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> It\u2019s the RCA receiving tube manual.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There we go! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh my goodness!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara:<\/strong> That does not motivate <em>me<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He has a collection\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m not sure that even counts.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014of RCA tubes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Keith:<\/strong> Hey, they count. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Here\u2019s the\u2014kind of the conclusion to all of this\u2014we\u2019re hoping that many of our listeners will join us on Thursdays over the next six weeks\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014it starts next week\u2014join us on Thursdays. There is going to be a new post each week in an ongoing study about the ministry of the Holy Spirit. We\u2019ll do it over a six-week period. It\u2019s kind of an online\u2014it\u2019s not a book club, because there\u2019s not a book. It\u2019s just a study we\u2019re going to do together, where all of us can be interacting on this subject. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can find out more about the summer reading plan that Barbara, and Tracy, and the team have put together at the Ever Thine Home blog. We\u2019ve got a link on our website at FamilyLifeToday.com that\u2019ll take you right there. If you\u2019d like to join us and sign up for the Thursday reading group, over a six-week period\u2014again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and click the link for the Ever Thine Home blog. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019re looking for resources\u2014things to read to your children this summer\u2014stories that will inspire them to be courageous, or to forgive one another\u2014things like that\u2014Barbara has written a series of books, The <em>Growing Together<\/em> series. You can find out more about the books in that series when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Or you can call to order at 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs we wrap up our week here, I want to make sure we have said an appropriate, \u201cThank you,\u201d to the many listeners who have <em>generously<\/em> supported the work of FamilyLife, particularly last month, as we were seeking to raise a significant amount of money. We appreciate <em>all<\/em> of you who contributed toward that end. FamilyLife exists because of folks, like you, who believe that this radio program, our website, our resources, and our events are all important; and we need to be reaching more people\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that\u2019s our goal \/ that\u2019s our burden here. When you invest in this ministry, you make it possible for us to do just that\u2014to reach more people, more often, with practical biblical help and hope for their marriage and their family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019re a regular listener and you\u2019ve never made a donation to support the ministry, can we invite you to do that? It\u2019s easy to do\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com to make an online donation. Or call 1-800-358-6329\u2014that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life and then the word \u201cTODAY.\u201d You can make a donation over the phone. Or you can mail a donation to us. Our mailing address is PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd with that, we hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together in church this weekend. I hope you can join us back on Monday. We\u2019re going to talk about how we can tell, as parents, whether our child\u2019s faith is the real deal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know you may have a child who has prayed a prayer with you or who has been baptized\u2014and those are significant events in a child\u2019s life\u2014but does that mean that child is genuinely converted? How can we tell? We\u2019ll talk more about that with our guest on Monday, Terence Chatmon. I hope you can be here for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. Have a great weekend. 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