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Keeping our kids happy means making sure they are never bored, making sure they don\u2019t fail, making sure they\u2019re not frightened, making sure they\u2019re not crying\u2014you know what I\u2019m saying. Probably every mother out there goes: \u201cYes; yes!\u00a0 I\u2019ve got a longer list than you do.\u201d But our job <em>isn\u2019t<\/em> to keep our kids happy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Thursday, May 11<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. So, if that\u2019s not job one for a mom, what is it?\u00a0 We\u2019ll spend some time exploring that today. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Thursday edition. Big day coming up this weekend \/ this Sunday\u2014Mother\u2019s Day is a good day, not only to acknowledge our moms; but it\u2019s really a good day to pull back and be reminded of the fact that moms are pretty strategic in God\u2019s design and God\u2019s plan. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. Proverbs 31 is such a classic chapter in the Book of Proverbs\u2014just about the <em>value<\/em> of a wife and a mom to her husband and to her children and to her world. I think we need to be bringing great <em>value<\/em> to moms, which is what we hope to do today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, yes, in honor of our 25<sup>th<\/sup> birthday for the radio program, <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, which was started in 1992\u2014we\u2019re coming up on our 25<sup>th<\/sup> birthday later this year\u2014and we thought, \u201cThroughout the year, we\u2019re going to dig into the archives; and we\u2019re going to take a topic like motherhood and review what some of our guests have shared with us over the years on that subject.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And Bob, I just want to take a moment here and say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to Legacy Partners. Thank you for faithfully investing in <em>this<\/em> generation but, also, in future generations as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, we\u2019re going to turn our attention to motherhood. Again, it was <em>years ago<\/em> that we asked Jill Savage to come be a guest on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. She\u2019s an author and a speaker and heads a ministry called Hearts at Home. Jill was a strong proponent for the idea that the value of motherhood in our culture needs to be advanced. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jill: <\/strong>When most women are asked, \u201cWhat do you do?\u201d they respond with the answer: \u201cOh, I\u2019m just a mom.\u201d\u00a0 That really negates the value and purpose of that job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things that I have found, personally, is I had to change my answer to that question\u2014that when people asked me that, I used to say that: \u201cI\u2019m just a mom. I\u2019m at home with my kids.\u201d\u00a0 And I would say it\u2014I would even drop my voice when I would say it, and I would find that I didn\u2019t have any value in that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I began to value that\u2014to see the importance of it\u2014and to do a shift in my thinking, I began to change the terminology I was using as I was speaking with women and encouraging women, even one on one, that this is a profession; and we need to think of it as that. We need to present ourselves as professionals \/ we need to approach it as professionals. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Finally, researchers are coming back around to affirming the very thing you are saying. There was a study done of more than 1,100 Canadian women. The bottom line was they found that women, who were at home with their children\u2014<em>just<\/em> being a mom\u2014that they were happier\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jill: <\/strong>Right!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014more fulfilled. Do you find that\u2019s true in the women you talk to in your ministry?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jill: <\/strong>Definitely. We find that women are happier at home, but what we also find is they don\u2019t realize how hard it is to be at home. What we get is\u2014a lot of women, who make the transition from the workforce to coming home, and their expectations are they are going to have more time on their hands. They\u2019re expecting they are going to be able to accomplish all of these projects that they want to accomplish. What they begin to realize is that they really had a tainted picture of what it was like to be at home\u2014that it\u2019s hard work!\u00a0 It is a lot of hard work. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere is never a coffee break unless you give it to yourself. There\u2019s never a lunch hour unless you take some time for yourself. You don\u2019t get off at five o\u2019clock. You are on the job 24 hours a day \/ 7 days a week, and that is something that women aren\u2019t ready for. So, I think that they struggle with it; but I do see more women wanting to come home and making the transition to come home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Bob, Jill referred to moms being professionals. I think that\u2019s a good term, but I prefer something along the lines of being a steward. They are stewards of the next generation. The most <em>valuable<\/em> gift they can give the next generation\u2014which are boys and girls who grow up to be men and women of character\u2014who have a sense of mission, who know their purpose, but also who know who they are accountable to, as men and women, and who are living their lives trying to please and honor Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and I think a lot of parents today look at that and go, \u201cWell, yes, that\u2019s easy\u2014raising kids who grow up with character and who want to honor Christ.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What parent did you talk to that said that?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, I think they think: \u201cWe can do that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Like a side issue?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cas a compartment in our lives. We can squeeze it in around the other stuff that\u2019s going on.\u201d I think Jill\u2019s point is: \u201cTo do it and do it right is a full-time job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cIt\u2019s going to be a taxing responsibility. You\u2019re going to have to really give yourself to it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think we look at the culture we\u2019re living in today, and we can see the fruit of a lot of inattention that was paid to children. They don\u2019t just grow up on their own to be men and women of great character; do they?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They don\u2019t. In fact, Bob, Barbara and I have talked <em>frequently<\/em> around this issue and have said, \u201cIt\u2019s taken everything we\u2019ve got, as adults, to try to do this thing in what we consider to be the right way.\u201d\u00a0 And our hats go off and hearts go out to single moms \/ single dads who are raising their sons and daughters by themselves. I do not know how they do it. They\u2019re going to be heroes in heaven. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; one of the things we talked about with Jill is the importance of moms making sure that, in the midst of wanting to do the job well, they don\u2019t lose sight of the fact that a part of what needs to happen at home is there needs to be some fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, I think Jill referred to mom\u2019s role as being the Vice President of Fun in the home or something like that. But she talked about how this was a struggle for her to grab hold of\u2014the priority of fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jill: <\/strong>I\u2019m a more serious mom than I am a fun mom. I share in the chapter about my friend, Kathy; and my friend, Kathy, <em>loves<\/em> to have fun with her children. It\u2019s not beyond her at all that, after a rainstorm. she would run out in the yard with the kids and find the biggest puddle out in the yard, and pull her jeans up, and jump in the puddle right alongside with them. I don\u2019t find that enjoyable. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you know?\u00a0 One day, I was talking with her daughter\u2014her daughter was over at my house\u2014and she said, \u201cYou know, my mom is the <em>funnest<\/em> mom.\u201d\u00a0 I laughed at her cute, little grammatical error there; but I thought, \u201cYou know, I don\u2019t know that my children could say that about me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt really challenged me to think about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I thought about it, one of the things that I realized is that your ability to have fun is in direct correlation to your ability to stand a mess. That was one of the first things I had to learn\u2014that I needed to be able to do \/ I needed to be able to be more comfortable with\u2014because my initial response to fun is: \u201cNo; we can\u2019t do that because it means we\u2019re going to have to clean up a mess. There\u2019s going to be more work for me,\u201d or whatever that keeps us from having that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was really important for me to realize the <em>root<\/em> of me being a little bit more serious than more fun and <em>where<\/em> I needed to start in making a shift in my thinking. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019ve made that shift. What are a couple of those fun spontaneous moments that you made a decision to go ahead and put up with the mess and just go ahead and just do it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jill: <\/strong>One day, the kids came inside; and it was in the middle of winter. Erica said, \u201cMom can we blow bubbles in the house?\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cNo, that\u2019s an outdoor toy,\u201d\u2014we\u2019ve always blown bubbles outdoors. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cWell, why can\u2019t we blow bubbles in the house?\u201d\u00a0 And of course, I initially gave her the standard response, \u201cBecause I said so.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 But then, I began to really think about it; and I thought: \u201cNow, Jill, why can\u2019t they blow bubbles in the house? I mean, we have the little bubble container that, even if it spills, it\u2019s not going to go all over the place\u2014it\u2019s spill proof. Why can\u2019t they do that?\u00a0 It\u2019s not going to hurt anything.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I went back to her, and I said: \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 I\u2019m sorry. You know, I gave you a \u201cNo,\u201d answer way too quickly. And yes, you can blow bubbles in the house. That would be just fine.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, after we had had this conversation with Jill, talking about how important fun is in what a mom brings to a family, we decided to call your daughter, Ashley\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014the chief Mom of Fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And this is a part\u2014she makes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014the family fun; doesn\u2019t she?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Seven boys, now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Here\u2019s what the phone call sounded like. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Phone Interview]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Hey, Ashley. How are you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Hey, Bob!\u00a0 I\u2019m good. How are you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Hi, princess. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Hey, Daddy!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It\u2019s good to talk to you. We just decided we\u2019d have a mom-check. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We used to have telephone calls, all around the country, to moms, who had young children, just to find out what their house looked like. [Laughter] Ashley, tell the truth; because I was over there the other night, and I\u2019m sure you haven\u2019t cleaned that kitchen since. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Now, you <em>know<\/em> I will tell you the truth, Daddy. [Laughter] You know you\u2019ll get some real, hard honesty from me\u2014every time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How\u2019s your fun quotient right now?\u00a0 On a 1 to 10, how much fun do you feel like you are for the boys?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Well, let\u2019s see\u2014right now, we\u2019re having a very rare moment; and they are actually watching <em>Toy Story<\/em>. So, I\u2019m having a great time right now;\u2014[Laughter]\u2014because they are completely entertained by this movie that\u2019s going to last an hour-and-a-half. So, I get an hour-and-a-half of free time. It\u2019s joyous. It\u2019s a perfect time for you to call me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We just talked here about the fact that part of a mom\u2019s assignment, as a professional mom,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014is that she needs to be the vice president in charge of fun for the kids. Do you agree with that?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Yes; I think so. We sat around last night and wrestled. I chased them around the hall, and we read some books. We did some real fun stuff last night\u2014me and the boys did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She\u2019s a pretty fun person. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; she really is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>I have a good time!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There are days where it doesn\u2019t feel all that fun; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Yes; there are a lot of those days. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But a mom has got to keep in mind that the responsibility for keeping things going, and light and fun, and making the family something that everybody\u2019s happy to be a part of\u2014that duty kind of rests on your shoulders; doesn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Yes; she has a lot of responsibility. She\u2019s got to keep the household running, meals coming, keep it fun, and yet have wisdom and discipline. It\u2019s a pretty big, long list of responsibility. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Tell me what your kitchen sink looks like right now, Princess. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Well, you know, Dad, it\u2019s a good day for you to call and ask me; because my house is really a mess right now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve been doing so well at keeping it clean this week; and last night, after the kids went to bed, I thought: \u201cI have been working, all week, almost non-stop. Why is my house a disaster?\u201d [Laughter] I mean, there are, at least, 20 toys in the living room and the dining room\u2014which we never play in these two rooms \/ I don\u2019t know why they are all in here\u2014toys all up the stairs. Our kitchen\u2014dinner from last night is in the kitchen sink. So, yes; my house is a mess right now. I don\u2019t know why\u2014I\u2019ve worked all week. I don\u2019t understand why I\u2019m not having any progress. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Ashley, there are a number of moms in cars right now who just left houses like you described it, and they are going:\u201cThis is therapeutic. [Laughter] This is why\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>I\u2019ll tell you what\u2014you just don\u2019t want to come home!\u00a0 I mean, when you\u2019re out in your car, you\u2019re like, \u201cOh, good; I don\u2019t want to go home either.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, thank you for allowing us to check the fun quotient \/ check the fun meter at your house. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Well, they are having fun right now. [Laughter in the background]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Sounds like it right there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>That would be James playing\u2014he\u2019s having a blast. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Alright. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>I love you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Bye-bye. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Bye. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m going to tell you\u2014if you went and visited her house, right now, double your life insurance. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt could be dangerous to make it all the way to the kitchen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Seven boys at the house?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s right\u2014ages 3 to 17, and they are all boys. How my dear daughter\u2014how she juggles raising those seven and being a great wife to her husband Michael\u2014I have no idea. But you know what?\u00a0 She does it, and a good bit of it is what we\u2019re talking about here today. She <em>loves<\/em> being a mom and loves having a good time with her boys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>She has made that a priority. She decided, at some point, that being home \/ being with the boys and investing in them was what she was going to pour herself into. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We talked, years ago, with a pediatrician, Dr. Meg Meeker, about this priority of motherhood and how moms often feel like they\u2019re not succeeding in the role. She said that fun is important, but we have to make sure that we understand what the main goal of motherhood is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Meg: <\/strong>One of the lies I bought into, as a young mom, is that I really <em>felt<\/em> that it was my job to keep our kids happy at all times. Keeping our kids happy means making sure they\u2019re never bored, making sure they don\u2019t fail, making sure they\u2019re not frightened, making sure they\u2019re not bullied, making sure they\u2019re not crying\u2014you know what I\u2019m saying. Probably every mother out there goes: \u201cYes; yes!\u00a0 I\u2019ve got a longer list than you do.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut our job <em>isn\u2019t<\/em> to keep our kids happy. Our job is to raise good, strong people\u2014men and women. The only way they\u2019re going to <em>learn<\/em> the great lessons are to fail and to know Mom and Dad love them just the same: \u201cIt\u2019s okay that you didn\u2019t make the cheerleading squad. Who cares?\u2014because that\u2019s not who you are.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; and a great reminder in a day when, I think, a lot of parents \/ moms and dads think: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWe want our kids to have fun and be successful. If we\u2019ve done that, then, we\u2019ve reached the goal.\u201d\u00a0 The goal really is higher than that; isn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It is. You\u2019re not to be a mom, who is in charge of entertainment and just being a soccer mom\u2014running your kids to all the various athletic, and hobbies, and events they go to\u2014instead, you are to shape their characters. You\u2019re to shape their lives in the direction of knowing God, fearing God, loving God, serving God, and being a young man or a young lady who grows up to be God\u2019s man \/ God\u2019s woman. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob, in this culture that seems to be distorting identities of male and female, more than ever, we\u2019ve got to have a generation of moms who are engaging their sons and daughters in these important formative years around the subject of: \u201cWhat is a young man?\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cAnd uniquely, what are his responsibilities?\u201d \u201cWhat\u2019s a young lady?\u00a0 How should she behave and carry herself?\u201d\u00a0 We\u2019ve got to have a fresh crop of mothers who <em>own<\/em> this responsibility. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I imagine we\u2019ve got listeners, who are trying to juggle the responsibilities of being an effective mom with the realities of their work in the marketplace. They may wish they could be home investing more than they are able to; but the economic realities being what they are, they are in the marketplace. They can kind of listen to a program here, and hear these moms talking about how important motherhood is, and they feel guilty. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They\u2019re feeling guilty. That\u2019s not the purpose of this\u2014to make moms feel guilty. There are realities that everybody has to face. Trust God with where He\u2019s got you right now. If there are some decisions and values to be pulled back, and you and your husband evaluate, that\u2019s great. On the other hand, take this as an exhortation and a great reminder of the <em>privilege<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014the <em>great<\/em> privilege\u2014it is to partner with Almighty God in shaping the next generation\u2019s character, conscience, spiritual well-being. It\u2019s going to impact generations to come if Jesus Christ doesn\u2019t come back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>The point is: \u201cWhat you are able to do matters. It\u2019s making a difference in your kids\u2019 lives.\u201d\u00a0 Karen Ehman talked about that when she was here, talking about the priorities of motherhood. She said, \u201cWe\u2019ve got to keep in mind that what we\u2019re doing is significant.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karen: <\/strong>It\u2019s often looked at by society as something women do if they can\u2019t get a real job: \u201cWell, I guess they\u2019ll stay home with their kids.\u201d\u00a0 And it doesn\u2019t mean just necessarily that this myth applies to moms who stay at home. It can apply to moms, who work outside the home, too, when they think of their mothering\u2014they often think: \u201cSo many of the aspects of motherhood can be farmed out. We can hire people to do things with our kids.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe get this notion that what we do is just less than. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you know what?\u00a0 God sees what we do. Our mothering matters. Our children will be, in part, who they are when they grow up because of the time that we have poured into their lives and the time that we\u2019ve spent with them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Most of the projects we tackle, as people, are things that we can do in a week; or maybe, a long project takes you a couple of months; or maybe, you\u2019re building a house, and it\u2019s going to take a year to build a house. Building a human being takes the better part of two decades\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karen: <\/strong>It does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014to get it done. As a person doing it, in year six, you can start to think, \u201cIs this <em>really<\/em> making any difference at all\u2014what I\u2019m doing?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karen: <\/strong>Absolutely. And we don\u2019t have quarterly feedbacks and evaluations, and we don\u2019t always get the praise and the pats on the back. You know, you started off the broadcast talking about \u201cHer children rise and call her blessed,\u201d\u2014that they say in Proverbs\u2014it\u2019s written in Proverbs 31. And when my kids were little, I used to often wonder, \u201cWhen is that going to happen?\u201d\u2014like they are four and two\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014they\u2019re not running around, saying, \u201cOh, blessed are thou, oh Mommy, for all you do.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karen: <\/strong>But I\u2019m telling you\u2014when they are older\u2014I got a text message from my 21-year-old son the other day, just saying, \u201cMom, I was just thinking about all that you\u2019ve done for me,\u201d\u2014I can\u2019t even say it without crying\u2014\u201cThank you for all you\u2019ve done. You\u2019re an amazing mom, and I love you. I don\u2019t tell you enough that I appreciate all you\u2019ve done for me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt doesn\u2019t always happen when they are little; but when they grow up, they will look back at the time that you\u2019ve invested in them \/ that you\u2019ve poured into their lives, and it matters to them. It matters most of all to God. We need to let that divine nod of God be enough for us and not to be seeking that outside, even though it\u2019s hard. We\u2019re not going to always get the pats on the back from society. We\u2019re not going to get the \u201c\u2018Atta girls!\u201d that we should. We need to know that we are doing it as unto the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, listening to that mini tribute by her son back to her made me think about some words I wrote to my mom in my tribute that I gave to her, way back, I think, in 1983. I\u2019ll just read you the end of my tribute that I wrote to her: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong><br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe also taught him about accountability, truthfulness, honesty, and transparency. She modeled a tough loyalty to his dad. He always knew divorce was never an option, and she took care of her own parents when old age took its toll. She went to church faithfully. In fact, she led this six-year-old boy to Christ in her Sunday evening Bible study class. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEven today, her age doesn\u2019t stop her from fishing in a cold rain, running off to get Chinese food, or wolfing down a cheeseburger and a dozen bonbons with her son. She\u2019s truly a woman to be honored. She\u2019s more than somebody\u2019s mother\u2014she\u2019s my mom. Mom, I love you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I might add: \u201cMom, I miss you.\u201d What a privilege to have been raised by a mom, who made it a priority and who imparted her life to me, as a young man.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I can imagine that some of our listeners may want to read your whole tribute; and we\u2019ve got it, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. It\u2019s probably too late for a listener, who would read it and think, \u201cI ought to do something like that for my mom,\u201d to get it done in time for Mother\u2019s Day; but I would encourage listeners to get a copy of your book, <em>The Forgotten Commandment<\/em>, and start now\u2014thinking and praying about giving your mom and your dad a tribute of honor at an upcoming birthday or anniversary\u2014even start now, preparing for Christmas. You can get information about Dennis\u2019s book, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to order at 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur team has also put together a list of great books for moms; and even though you can\u2019t get one in time for Mother\u2019s Day, any of these books would make a great belated Mother\u2019s Day gift for your mom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com and browse through the list of books that are available on motherhood. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>You know, when you stop and think about the goal of parenting, you stop and think about what matters most\u2014it really does go back to what the Bible says in 3 John 4\u2014there is no greater joy for a parent than to know that our children are walking in the truth. At FamilyLife, we\u2019re trying to do all we can do to help moms and dads be ready to tackle that assignment and to be faithful to talk with our kids about God, about sin, about salvation and redemption, and about what it means for us to have a relationship with God through His Son, Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI met a mom recently, who said to me, \u201cI\u2019ve been listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> from the beginning\u2014for 25 years.\u201d\u00a0 And she said, \u201cYou helped me raise my kids.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mention that because we have our listeners to thank for partnering with us in this process. You make it possible for us to reach more people with practical biblical help and hope for marriage and family every time you make a contribution to this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got a goal set for this month\u2014we\u2019re trying to raise an ambitious amount of money\u2014$1.1 million\u2014to help us continue working on projects that are already under way. We just need to make sure the funds are available throughout the summer. So, we\u2019re asking you to make a contribution today\u2014whatever you are able to do. Maybe, you\u2019re a regular contributor to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014could you add a little more this month to your regular donation?\u00a0 Or maybe, you\u2019ve <em>never<\/em> given a donation\u2014how about today being the first day that you help support this ministry and help us reach more people with God\u2019s design for marriage and family?\u00a0 You can donate, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can donate by calling 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we\u2019re going to continue hearing great wisdom from moms who have shared their insights with us over the last 25 years. Hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> ministry. Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2017 FamilyLife. 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Big day coming up this weekend \/ this Sunday\u2014Mother\u2019s Day is a good day, not only to acknowledge our moms; but it\u2019s really a good day to pull back and be reminded of the fact that moms are pretty strategic in God\u2019s design and God\u2019s plan. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. Proverbs 31 is such a classic chapter in the Book of Proverbs\u2014just about the <em>value<\/em> of a wife and a mom to her husband and to her children and to her world. I think we need to be bringing great <em>value<\/em> to moms, which is what we hope to do today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, yes, in honor of our 25<sup>th<\/sup> birthday for the radio program, <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, which was started in 1992\u2014we\u2019re coming up on our 25<sup>th<\/sup> birthday later this year\u2014and we thought, \u201cThroughout the year, we\u2019re going to dig into the archives; and we\u2019re going to take a topic like motherhood and review what some of our guests have shared with us over the years on that subject.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And Bob, I just want to take a moment here and say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to Legacy Partners. Thank you for faithfully investing in <em>this<\/em> generation but, also, in future generations as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, we\u2019re going to turn our attention to motherhood. Again, it was <em>years ago<\/em> that we asked Jill Savage to come be a guest on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. She\u2019s an author and a speaker and heads a ministry called Hearts at Home. Jill was a strong proponent for the idea that the value of motherhood in our culture needs to be advanced. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jill: <\/strong>When most women are asked, \u201cWhat do you do?\u201d they respond with the answer: \u201cOh, I\u2019m just a mom.\u201d\u00a0 That really negates the value and purpose of that job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things that I have found, personally, is I had to change my answer to that question\u2014that when people asked me that, I used to say that: \u201cI\u2019m just a mom. I\u2019m at home with my kids.\u201d\u00a0 And I would say it\u2014I would even drop my voice when I would say it, and I would find that I didn\u2019t have any value in that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I began to value that\u2014to see the importance of it\u2014and to do a shift in my thinking, I began to change the terminology I was using as I was speaking with women and encouraging women, even one on one, that this is a profession; and we need to think of it as that. We need to present ourselves as professionals \/ we need to approach it as professionals. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Finally, researchers are coming back around to affirming the very thing you are saying. There was a study done of more than 1,100 Canadian women. The bottom line was they found that women, who were at home with their children\u2014<em>just<\/em> being a mom\u2014that they were happier\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jill: <\/strong>Right!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014more fulfilled. Do you find that\u2019s true in the women you talk to in your ministry?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jill: <\/strong>Definitely. We find that women are happier at home, but what we also find is they don\u2019t realize how hard it is to be at home. What we get is\u2014a lot of women, who make the transition from the workforce to coming home, and their expectations are they are going to have more time on their hands. They\u2019re expecting they are going to be able to accomplish all of these projects that they want to accomplish. What they begin to realize is that they really had a tainted picture of what it was like to be at home\u2014that it\u2019s hard work!\u00a0 It is a lot of hard work. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere is never a coffee break unless you give it to yourself. There\u2019s never a lunch hour unless you take some time for yourself. You don\u2019t get off at five o\u2019clock. You are on the job 24 hours a day \/ 7 days a week, and that is something that women aren\u2019t ready for. So, I think that they struggle with it; but I do see more women wanting to come home and making the transition to come home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Bob, Jill referred to moms being professionals. I think that\u2019s a good term, but I prefer something along the lines of being a steward. They are stewards of the next generation. The most <em>valuable<\/em> gift they can give the next generation\u2014which are boys and girls who grow up to be men and women of character\u2014who have a sense of mission, who know their purpose, but also who know who they are accountable to, as men and women, and who are living their lives trying to please and honor Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and I think a lot of parents today look at that and go, \u201cWell, yes, that\u2019s easy\u2014raising kids who grow up with character and who want to honor Christ.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What parent did you talk to that said that?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, I think they think: \u201cWe can do that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Like a side issue?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cas a compartment in our lives. We can squeeze it in around the other stuff that\u2019s going on.\u201d I think Jill\u2019s point is: \u201cTo do it and do it right is a full-time job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cIt\u2019s going to be a taxing responsibility. You\u2019re going to have to really give yourself to it.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think we look at the culture we\u2019re living in today, and we can see the fruit of a lot of inattention that was paid to children. They don\u2019t just grow up on their own to be men and women of great character; do they?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They don\u2019t. In fact, Bob, Barbara and I have talked <em>frequently<\/em> around this issue and have said, \u201cIt\u2019s taken everything we\u2019ve got, as adults, to try to do this thing in what we consider to be the right way.\u201d\u00a0 And our hats go off and hearts go out to single moms \/ single dads who are raising their sons and daughters by themselves. I do not know how they do it. They\u2019re going to be heroes in heaven. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; one of the things we talked about with Jill is the importance of moms making sure that, in the midst of wanting to do the job well, they don\u2019t lose sight of the fact that a part of what needs to happen at home is there needs to be some fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, I think Jill referred to mom\u2019s role as being the Vice President of Fun in the home or something like that. But she talked about how this was a struggle for her to grab hold of\u2014the priority of fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jill: <\/strong>I\u2019m a more serious mom than I am a fun mom. I share in the chapter about my friend, Kathy; and my friend, Kathy, <em>loves<\/em> to have fun with her children. It\u2019s not beyond her at all that, after a rainstorm. she would run out in the yard with the kids and find the biggest puddle out in the yard, and pull her jeans up, and jump in the puddle right alongside with them. I don\u2019t find that enjoyable. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you know?\u00a0 One day, I was talking with her daughter\u2014her daughter was over at my house\u2014and she said, \u201cYou know, my mom is the <em>funnest<\/em> mom.\u201d\u00a0 I laughed at her cute, little grammatical error there; but I thought, \u201cYou know, I don\u2019t know that my children could say that about me.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt really challenged me to think about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs I thought about it, one of the things that I realized is that your ability to have fun is in direct correlation to your ability to stand a mess. That was one of the first things I had to learn\u2014that I needed to be able to do \/ I needed to be able to be more comfortable with\u2014because my initial response to fun is: \u201cNo; we can\u2019t do that because it means we\u2019re going to have to clean up a mess. There\u2019s going to be more work for me,\u201d or whatever that keeps us from having that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was really important for me to realize the <em>root<\/em> of me being a little bit more serious than more fun and <em>where<\/em> I needed to start in making a shift in my thinking. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019ve made that shift. What are a couple of those fun spontaneous moments that you made a decision to go ahead and put up with the mess and just go ahead and just do it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jill: <\/strong>One day, the kids came inside; and it was in the middle of winter. Erica said, \u201cMom can we blow bubbles in the house?\u201d\u00a0 I said, \u201cNo, that\u2019s an outdoor toy,\u201d\u2014we\u2019ve always blown bubbles outdoors. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cWell, why can\u2019t we blow bubbles in the house?\u201d\u00a0 And of course, I initially gave her the standard response, \u201cBecause I said so.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 But then, I began to really think about it; and I thought: \u201cNow, Jill, why can\u2019t they blow bubbles in the house? I mean, we have the little bubble container that, even if it spills, it\u2019s not going to go all over the place\u2014it\u2019s spill proof. Why can\u2019t they do that?\u00a0 It\u2019s not going to hurt anything.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, I went back to her, and I said: \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 I\u2019m sorry. You know, I gave you a \u201cNo,\u201d answer way too quickly. And yes, you can blow bubbles in the house. That would be just fine.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You know, after we had had this conversation with Jill, talking about how important fun is in what a mom brings to a family, we decided to call your daughter, Ashley\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014the chief Mom of Fun. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And this is a part\u2014she makes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014the family fun; doesn\u2019t she?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Seven boys, now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Here\u2019s what the phone call sounded like. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Phone Interview]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Hey, Ashley. How are you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Hey, Bob!\u00a0 I\u2019m good. How are you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Hi, princess. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Hey, Daddy!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It\u2019s good to talk to you. We just decided we\u2019d have a mom-check. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We used to have telephone calls, all around the country, to moms, who had young children, just to find out what their house looked like. [Laughter] Ashley, tell the truth; because I was over there the other night, and I\u2019m sure you haven\u2019t cleaned that kitchen since. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Now, you <em>know<\/em> I will tell you the truth, Daddy. [Laughter] You know you\u2019ll get some real, hard honesty from me\u2014every time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How\u2019s your fun quotient right now?\u00a0 On a 1 to 10, how much fun do you feel like you are for the boys?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Well, let\u2019s see\u2014right now, we\u2019re having a very rare moment; and they are actually watching <em>Toy Story<\/em>. So, I\u2019m having a great time right now;\u2014[Laughter]\u2014because they are completely entertained by this movie that\u2019s going to last an hour-and-a-half. So, I get an hour-and-a-half of free time. It\u2019s joyous. It\u2019s a perfect time for you to call me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We just talked here about the fact that part of a mom\u2019s assignment, as a professional mom,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014is that she needs to be the vice president in charge of fun for the kids. Do you agree with that?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Yes; I think so. We sat around last night and wrestled. I chased them around the hall, and we read some books. We did some real fun stuff last night\u2014me and the boys did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She\u2019s a pretty fun person. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; she really is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>I have a good time!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There are days where it doesn\u2019t feel all that fun; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Yes; there are a lot of those days. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But a mom has got to keep in mind that the responsibility for keeping things going, and light and fun, and making the family something that everybody\u2019s happy to be a part of\u2014that duty kind of rests on your shoulders; doesn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Yes; she has a lot of responsibility. She\u2019s got to keep the household running, meals coming, keep it fun, and yet have wisdom and discipline. It\u2019s a pretty big, long list of responsibility. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Tell me what your kitchen sink looks like right now, Princess. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Well, you know, Dad, it\u2019s a good day for you to call and ask me; because my house is really a mess right now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve been doing so well at keeping it clean this week; and last night, after the kids went to bed, I thought: \u201cI have been working, all week, almost non-stop. Why is my house a disaster?\u201d [Laughter] I mean, there are, at least, 20 toys in the living room and the dining room\u2014which we never play in these two rooms \/ I don\u2019t know why they are all in here\u2014toys all up the stairs. Our kitchen\u2014dinner from last night is in the kitchen sink. So, yes; my house is a mess right now. I don\u2019t know why\u2014I\u2019ve worked all week. I don\u2019t understand why I\u2019m not having any progress. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Ashley, there are a number of moms in cars right now who just left houses like you described it, and they are going:\u201cThis is therapeutic. [Laughter] This is why\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>I\u2019ll tell you what\u2014you just don\u2019t want to come home!\u00a0 I mean, when you\u2019re out in your car, you\u2019re like, \u201cOh, good; I don\u2019t want to go home either.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, thank you for allowing us to check the fun quotient \/ check the fun meter at your house. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Well, they are having fun right now. [Laughter in the background]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Sounds like it right there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>That would be James playing\u2014he\u2019s having a blast. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Alright. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>I love you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Bye-bye. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ashley: <\/strong>Bye. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m going to tell you\u2014if you went and visited her house, right now, double your life insurance. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt could be dangerous to make it all the way to the kitchen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Seven boys at the house?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s right\u2014ages 3 to 17, and they are all boys. How my dear daughter\u2014how she juggles raising those seven and being a great wife to her husband Michael\u2014I have no idea. But you know what?\u00a0 She does it, and a good bit of it is what we\u2019re talking about here today. She <em>loves<\/em> being a mom and loves having a good time with her boys. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>She has made that a priority. She decided, at some point, that being home \/ being with the boys and investing in them was what she was going to pour herself into. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We talked, years ago, with a pediatrician, Dr. Meg Meeker, about this priority of motherhood and how moms often feel like they\u2019re not succeeding in the role. She said that fun is important, but we have to make sure that we understand what the main goal of motherhood is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Meg: <\/strong>One of the lies I bought into, as a young mom, is that I really <em>felt<\/em> that it was my job to keep our kids happy at all times. Keeping our kids happy means making sure they\u2019re never bored, making sure they don\u2019t fail, making sure they\u2019re not frightened, making sure they\u2019re not bullied, making sure they\u2019re not crying\u2014you know what I\u2019m saying. Probably every mother out there goes: \u201cYes; yes!\u00a0 I\u2019ve got a longer list than you do.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut our job <em>isn\u2019t<\/em> to keep our kids happy. Our job is to raise good, strong people\u2014men and women. The only way they\u2019re going to <em>learn<\/em> the great lessons are to fail and to know Mom and Dad love them just the same: \u201cIt\u2019s okay that you didn\u2019t make the cheerleading squad. Who cares?\u2014because that\u2019s not who you are.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; and a great reminder in a day when, I think, a lot of parents \/ moms and dads think: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWe want our kids to have fun and be successful. If we\u2019ve done that, then, we\u2019ve reached the goal.\u201d\u00a0 The goal really is higher than that; isn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It is. You\u2019re not to be a mom, who is in charge of entertainment and just being a soccer mom\u2014running your kids to all the various athletic, and hobbies, and events they go to\u2014instead, you are to shape their characters. You\u2019re to shape their lives in the direction of knowing God, fearing God, loving God, serving God, and being a young man or a young lady who grows up to be God\u2019s man \/ God\u2019s woman. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob, in this culture that seems to be distorting identities of male and female, more than ever, we\u2019ve got to have a generation of moms who are engaging their sons and daughters in these important formative years around the subject of: \u201cWhat is a young man?\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cAnd uniquely, what are his responsibilities?\u201d \u201cWhat\u2019s a young lady?\u00a0 How should she behave and carry herself?\u201d\u00a0 We\u2019ve got to have a fresh crop of mothers who <em>own<\/em> this responsibility. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I imagine we\u2019ve got listeners, who are trying to juggle the responsibilities of being an effective mom with the realities of their work in the marketplace. They may wish they could be home investing more than they are able to; but the economic realities being what they are, they are in the marketplace. They can kind of listen to a program here, and hear these moms talking about how important motherhood is, and they feel guilty. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>They\u2019re feeling guilty. That\u2019s not the purpose of this\u2014to make moms feel guilty. There are realities that everybody has to face. Trust God with where He\u2019s got you right now. If there are some decisions and values to be pulled back, and you and your husband evaluate, that\u2019s great. On the other hand, take this as an exhortation and a great reminder of the <em>privilege<\/em>\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014the <em>great<\/em> privilege\u2014it is to partner with Almighty God in shaping the next generation\u2019s character, conscience, spiritual well-being. It\u2019s going to impact generations to come if Jesus Christ doesn\u2019t come back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>The point is: \u201cWhat you are able to do matters. It\u2019s making a difference in your kids\u2019 lives.\u201d\u00a0 Karen Ehman talked about that when she was here, talking about the priorities of motherhood. She said, \u201cWe\u2019ve got to keep in mind that what we\u2019re doing is significant.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Previous Interview]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karen: <\/strong>It\u2019s often looked at by society as something women do if they can\u2019t get a real job: \u201cWell, I guess they\u2019ll stay home with their kids.\u201d\u00a0 And it doesn\u2019t mean just necessarily that this myth applies to moms who stay at home. It can apply to moms, who work outside the home, too, when they think of their mothering\u2014they often think: \u201cSo many of the aspects of motherhood can be farmed out. We can hire people to do things with our kids.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe get this notion that what we do is just less than. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut you know what?\u00a0 God sees what we do. Our mothering matters. Our children will be, in part, who they are when they grow up because of the time that we have poured into their lives and the time that we\u2019ve spent with them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Most of the projects we tackle, as people, are things that we can do in a week; or maybe, a long project takes you a couple of months; or maybe, you\u2019re building a house, and it\u2019s going to take a year to build a house. Building a human being takes the better part of two decades\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karen: <\/strong>It does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014to get it done. As a person doing it, in year six, you can start to think, \u201cIs this <em>really<\/em> making any difference at all\u2014what I\u2019m doing?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karen: <\/strong>Absolutely. And we don\u2019t have quarterly feedbacks and evaluations, and we don\u2019t always get the praise and the pats on the back. You know, you started off the broadcast talking about \u201cHer children rise and call her blessed,\u201d\u2014that they say in Proverbs\u2014it\u2019s written in Proverbs 31. And when my kids were little, I used to often wonder, \u201cWhen is that going to happen?\u201d\u2014like they are four and two\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014they\u2019re not running around, saying, \u201cOh, blessed are thou, oh Mommy, for all you do.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Karen: <\/strong>But I\u2019m telling you\u2014when they are older\u2014I got a text message from my 21-year-old son the other day, just saying, \u201cMom, I was just thinking about all that you\u2019ve done for me,\u201d\u2014I can\u2019t even say it without crying\u2014\u201cThank you for all you\u2019ve done. You\u2019re an amazing mom, and I love you. I don\u2019t tell you enough that I appreciate all you\u2019ve done for me.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt doesn\u2019t always happen when they are little; but when they grow up, they will look back at the time that you\u2019ve invested in them \/ that you\u2019ve poured into their lives, and it matters to them. It matters most of all to God. We need to let that divine nod of God be enough for us and not to be seeking that outside, even though it\u2019s hard. We\u2019re not going to always get the pats on the back from society. We\u2019re not going to get the \u201c\u2018Atta girls!\u201d that we should. We need to know that we are doing it as unto the Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, listening to that mini tribute by her son back to her made me think about some words I wrote to my mom in my tribute that I gave to her, way back, I think, in 1983. I\u2019ll just read you the end of my tribute that I wrote to her: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong><br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe also taught him about accountability, truthfulness, honesty, and transparency. She modeled a tough loyalty to his dad. He always knew divorce was never an option, and she took care of her own parents when old age took its toll. She went to church faithfully. In fact, she led this six-year-old boy to Christ in her Sunday evening Bible study class. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEven today, her age doesn\u2019t stop her from fishing in a cold rain, running off to get Chinese food, or wolfing down a cheeseburger and a dozen bonbons with her son. She\u2019s truly a woman to be honored. She\u2019s more than somebody\u2019s mother\u2014she\u2019s my mom. Mom, I love you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I might add: \u201cMom, I miss you.\u201d What a privilege to have been raised by a mom, who made it a priority and who imparted her life to me, as a young man.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I can imagine that some of our listeners may want to read your whole tribute; and we\u2019ve got it, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com. It\u2019s probably too late for a listener, who would read it and think, \u201cI ought to do something like that for my mom,\u201d to get it done in time for Mother\u2019s Day; but I would encourage listeners to get a copy of your book, <em>The Forgotten Commandment<\/em>, and start now\u2014thinking and praying about giving your mom and your dad a tribute of honor at an upcoming birthday or anniversary\u2014even start now, preparing for Christmas. You can get information about Dennis\u2019s book, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to order at 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOur team has also put together a list of great books for moms; and even though you can\u2019t get one in time for Mother\u2019s Day, any of these books would make a great belated Mother\u2019s Day gift for your mom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGo to FamilyLifeToday.com and browse through the list of books that are available on motherhood. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>You know, when you stop and think about the goal of parenting, you stop and think about what matters most\u2014it really does go back to what the Bible says in 3 John 4\u2014there is no greater joy for a parent than to know that our children are walking in the truth. At FamilyLife, we\u2019re trying to do all we can do to help moms and dads be ready to tackle that assignment and to be faithful to talk with our kids about God, about sin, about salvation and redemption, and about what it means for us to have a relationship with God through His Son, Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI met a mom recently, who said to me, \u201cI\u2019ve been listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> from the beginning\u2014for 25 years.\u201d\u00a0 And she said, \u201cYou helped me raise my kids.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mention that because we have our listeners to thank for partnering with us in this process. You make it possible for us to reach more people with practical biblical help and hope for marriage and family every time you make a contribution to this ministry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got a goal set for this month\u2014we\u2019re trying to raise an ambitious amount of money\u2014$1.1 million\u2014to help us continue working on projects that are already under way. We just need to make sure the funds are available throughout the summer. So, we\u2019re asking you to make a contribution today\u2014whatever you are able to do. Maybe, you\u2019re a regular contributor to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014could you add a little more this month to your regular donation?\u00a0 Or maybe, you\u2019ve <em>never<\/em> given a donation\u2014how about today being the first day that you help support this ministry and help us reach more people with God\u2019s design for marriage and family?\u00a0 You can donate, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can donate by calling 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we\u2019re going to continue hearing great wisdom from moms who have shared their insights with us over the last 25 years. 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