{"id":304338,"date":"2017-01-13T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2017-01-13T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/livin-to-love\/"},"modified":"2017-01-13T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2017-01-13T17:00:00","slug":"livin-to-love","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/livin-to-love\/","title":{"rendered":"Livin&#8217; to Love"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>guest: Ray McKelvy, Robyn McKelvy | Series: Not in the Mood | Robyn McKelvey knows from speaking to women that many wives aren&#8217;t enjoying the physical intimacy God designed for couples to enjoy. 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Robyn McKelvy says a wife who becomes a student of her husband will realize he wants more.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> He wants a responder\u2014he wants a woman who will respond to his affection. He doesn\u2019t want somebody, who\u2019s just sitting over there\u2014who doesn\u2019t take any time to be creative, who doesn\u2019t take any time to prepare, who doesn\u2019t give him those little, \u201cI\u2019m meetin\u2019 you tonight!\u201d; you know? It\u2019s time for us to come out of being the prude\u2014to not talk about it is being a prude. It\u2019s time for us to talk about it with our husbands a lot!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, January 13<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey. I'm Bob Lepine. Alright; we\u2019re going to have a candid, real-life conversation today about husband and wife marital intimacy\u2014ready? Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition. I want to read to you something that our guest today said\u2014this is just a little tweet\u2014she says, \u201cA marriage that thrives requires above-average intimacy.\u201d If you want your marriage to thrive, your marital intimacy\u2014we\u2019re talking about the husband and wife sexual relationship\u2014needs to be above average. Do you agree with that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes; I think so. I think what she\u2019s getting at is a couple that is growing together in Christ\u2014a couple that are doing life together \/ that are communicating well, verbally and emotionally\u2014will also communicate well sexually. That doesn\u2019t mean you won\u2019t have adjustments. That doesn\u2019t mean you won\u2019t go through seasons, because there are health issues that occur that can really take away the opportunity for sexual intimacy in a marriage relationship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And not every time that you come together, as husband and wife, is it going to be glorious; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. It\u2019s not always going to be a grand slam homerun. Sometimes there are singles.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And, occasionally, you strike out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And we have a guest on the broadcast who knows a little about that, because she has ten children. She and her husband Ray speak at our <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaways. She shares the real stuff with our audiences, all around the country. Robyn McKelvy joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>Robyn, welcome back.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Thanks for having me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019ll mention here that you and your husband Ray are going to be at <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaways this spring in Hilton Head, South Carolina; and in Jacksonville, Florida; and in San Francisco, California. Ray is going to be in Reston, Virginia, as well. Folks who live near those areas should plan to come and spend the weekend with you guys.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In fact, if you don\u2019t live in those areas, you should still plan to spend the weekend with us at one of these upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaways. There is nothing I can think of that is a better investment for your marriage than a couple of days where the two of you can just relax\u2014be together; focus on your marriage; listen to what the Bible has to say about a strong, healthy, thriving marriage relationship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI love\u2014one person, who came to the getaway recently, who said: \u201cYou have now given us the golden, God-centered toolbox for our marriage. It was exactly what we didn\u2019t know we needed.\u201d I thought that was a great quote, because a lot of couples don\u2019t know what they need until they come and find out that marriage can be better than they even imagined when they understand God\u2019s design for marriage \/ understand how the gospel fits together with marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRight now, we have a special offer going\u2014if you pay the regular rate for yourself, your spouse comes free. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis offer is good through next weekend. Take advantage of it by calling 1-800-FL-TODAY right now. Get more information about when a getaway is coming to a city near you and register over the phone. Or do the work online\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com. All the information you need about the getaway is there, and you can register online if you\u2019d like. Again, the special offer is\u2014you pay for yourself at the regular rate and your spouse comes free. It\u2019s good through next weekend, and we hope you\u2019ll join us at one of these upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaways.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRobyn, you are an advocate for above-average intimacy in marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes, and let me just say this\u2014I want you to transfer that and talk about\u2014if you\u2019re going to have a relationship with <em>anybody<\/em> that thrives, even with our Heavenly Father, it requires above-average intimacy. It requires letting your guard down. It requires, really, being naked and unashamed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, in order to have a good relationship\u2014or a great relationship for that matter\u2014we need to have above-average intimacy. It\u2019s something you have to fight for.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And in the marital relationship, sexual intimacy is just one aspect.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> One aspect of that intimacy\u2014<em>one aspect<\/em> of it. But let me just say this\u2014we have an enemy who wants to just douse <em>any <\/em>light that you have for Christ.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He wants to put out the spark.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> He wants to just <em>kill<\/em> the spark in such a way that it never lights again. So what does he do?\u2014he goes for the jugular. And the jugular in a marital relationship begins with the <em>most<\/em> intimate relationship that you can have\u2014I believe that most intimate relationship is your sexual relationship.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This from the person who wrote the book that is entitled <em>S.O.S<\/em>.\u2014subtitled, <em>Sick of Sex<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You say that up to 80 percent of all married women would admit to being sick of sex.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> And let me just say this\u2014this is 80 percent of the women that I\u2019ve talked to, and I talk to women! I talk to them <em>a lot<\/em>\u2014I <em>love<\/em> talking. With loving to talk, I don\u2019t want to just talk surface. It\u2019s <em>easy<\/em> to find out: \u201cHow are you doing?\u201d\u2014\u201cFine.\u201d No! I want to know how you\u2019re doing in your relationship with your husband; okay? And then I say, \u201cAre you guys having sex?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You just say that!?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> I do. I don\u2019t have an issue with that, because I\u2019m here to say: \u201cIt\u2019s time for us to get past surface relationships.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But what\u2019s happening in the culture is that the culture is using sex to entertain us on our TVs, on our phones, on our iPads<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>\u2014I mean, in all kinds of distorted and perverted ways.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> It\u2019s everywhere!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Pornography\u2014it is everywhere. And it\u2019s poisoning our kids\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and their attitudes toward sex. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Robyn, you\u2019ve written this book to reprogram women\u2019s minds by taking them into a devotional experience.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There are how many chapters in this book?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Twenty chapters.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You took my copy here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Oh, sorry! I forgot mine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; but each of these chapters is written as a devotional to begin to get a\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes; well, kind of.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014to begin to give them a biblical view of the sexual dimension of the marriage bed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> And let me just say this\u2014in order to look at the biblical view, you have to be able to stamp out the world\u2019s view that\u2019s been fed to you. That\u2019s why, behind every chapter, there\u2019s a thing that I call a jourvotional\u2014it\u2019s a journal and devotional. I didn\u2019t coin this phrase\u2014another friend of mine used it in one of her books. I just said, \u201cCan I have it?\u201d and she said, \u201cYes.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have this jourvotional\u2014which is a journal\u2014which allows you to write down your specific interlude with sexual intimacy prior to marriage: how you first heard about it \/ how you felt when you first heard about it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBecause how you felt\u2014if it was given to you in a loving manner, where you could look at it and desire it for the future\u2014great! That means that it was probably given to you in a biblical view. But if you were given it where you were ashamed of it, or it was yucky or dirty, then you were given to it in a sinful light. There\u2019s something about the way we\u2019re introduced to something that makes us feel like it is how it\u2019s going to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re a pastor\u2019s daughter. When did it occur?\u2014was it when you were a single woman or a married woman when you finally were transformed in your attitude toward sex and no longer conformed to the world?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> It was when I was single because, at 21 years old, I realized my need for Christ. I came to Him and said, \u201cIf I see it in your Word, I\u2019m going to do it.\u201d I didn\u2019t want anybody to tell me anything; because all that I had been told, I felt like, wasn\u2019t true. I started delving into God\u2019s Word, regularly, with a <em>Webster\u2019s Dictionary<\/em> and a piece of paper. If I didn\u2019t understand a word, I would look it up and go through every definition until I found what it meant. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> I mean, you have to be <em>passionate<\/em> about something; and I wanted the truth because I could not live without God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So was it God\u2019s Word that began to adjust your thinking about sexuality?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Absolutely; absolutely!\u2014on everything \/ on everything!\u2014on life, on sexuality, on men!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> On everything\u2014God\u2019s Word <em>transformed<\/em> me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So did you begin marriage with a robust view of godly sexuality?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> No; I began marriage absolutely, totally afraid of it. I\u2019ll give you even this\u2014my wedding night didn\u2019t culminate with sex, because I was so afraid. This godly man God had given me said to me: \u201cDon\u2019t worry about it. We have the rest of our lives.\u201d And you can tell by ten kids and fifteen pregnancies that we have come a long way, baby; and that we\u2019ve gotten it all right. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, I\u2019m looking here at the chapter titles of your book. I\u2019m going, \u201cYou really have come a long way; because this one chapter is entitled\u201d\u2014let me just make sure I\u2019ve got this right\u2014\u201cChapter Seven: \u201cSave Our Sensuality.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> In fact, you say in the book, \u201cSensuality is a divine right.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> A divine right; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Wow!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Well, let me just say this\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You have come a long way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> I have! And let me say that my mom and grandmother told me some stuff about sex that stuck with me. One of my mom\u2019s phrases was, \u201cI\u2019m your daddy\u2019s sleeping pill.\u201d It seemed like sex was pleasurable for him, but not for her. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me just say that sensuality and sexual intimacy doesn\u2019t just whet your husband\u2019s appetite for sex\u2014it whets yours. If you go into that bedroom and you are excited about being sexually active with him\u2014if you add some touches and some flairs and you can laugh and play\u2014what does it do for you?\u2014this is something that becomes fun and <em>exciting<\/em>. I do believe that that\u2019s how God created it to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But you know that you\u2019re talking to a lot of women, who go, \u201cI have <em>zero<\/em> interest in what you just described.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes; because they\u2019ve been so wounded by incorrect information. It\u2019s time for us to let that stuff go. The only way to find a better\u2014or the right or the truth of what\u2019s being said in this book\u2014is to let go of what you\u2019ve been holding onto for so long.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They\u2019ve also been wounded\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Absolutely!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014by sin, because they\u2019ve been damaged\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They\u2019ve been sinned against; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014by men.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Let me just say this\u2014not only have they been damaged <em>prior<\/em> to marriage or even\u2014but a lot of people are being damaged by men that they are married to\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014in marriage; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> \u2014in marriage. You have these women, who are like, \u201cOh, that can never happen.\u201d But I am here to say, \u201cIf you get onboard with the Lord, it will happen; and it doesn\u2019t take God long.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But a woman is going to say: \u201cI\u2019m trying to think differently about sex and about intimacy in our marriage, but I just don\u2019t feel any different. I mean, I\u2019ve read and I\u2019ve tried to psych myself up. I\u2019ve thought, \u2018Okay, I\u2019ll try to do something to make tonight really special\u2026\u2019 but the feelings just aren\u2019t coming along.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes; but do you always need to respond only to what <em>feels<\/em>? Sometimes, we just have to <em>do<\/em> what\u2019s right because it\u2019s right to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Are you saying to fake it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> I\u2019m not saying fake it. I\u2019m just saying that we do what\u2019s right. We get up every day and we take a shower because it\u2019s right\u2014because we don\u2019t want to smell bad. You do it because it\u2019s right, whether you feel like taking that shower or not. So we do these things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou prepare for intimacy. Most of our biggest issue with that is that we don\u2019t do anything to <em>prepare<\/em> for intimacy. I\u2019m not talking about adding candles to your bedroom. Preparation for intimacy starts with your <em>mind<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Now every man is going to smile when I say this, but this is what you say in your book. You really call women out of being a prude.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s time for us to quit being so prudish. It\u2019s time! What do you want to say, Bob? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ve never seen Bob speechless, here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> There are a lot of things I want to say [Laughter], but I\u2019ll just withhold from many of them right now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We\u2019re laughing about this; but, truthfully, there are men, who are nodding their heads at this point, going: \u201cYes! Yes; I want a partner!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> When it comes to intimacy for a man, he wants a responder\u2014he wants a woman who will respond to his affection. He doesn\u2019t want somebody, who\u2019s just sitting over there\u2014who doesn\u2019t take any time to be creative, who doesn\u2019t take any time to prepare, who doesn\u2019t give him those little, \u201cI\u2019m meetin\u2019 you tonight!\u201d; you know? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s time for us to come out of being the prude\u2014to not talk about it is being a prude. It\u2019s time for us to talk about it with our husbands a lot!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Robyn, I have to believe there have been times in your marriage with Ray when he has had interest and you just were not there\u2014when you have said to him, \u201cBaby, no.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> It\u2019s in the book\u2014it\u2019s in the book. [Laughter] Let me just say this\u2014it is in the book, because I was having lunch with some girlfriends\u2014they laughed, because they knew how much I love sex. They laughed and said, \u201cRobyn probably <em>never<\/em> turns Ray down.\u201d I was like: \u201cMaybe, you\u2019re absolutely right; but there is a way to turn him down; because when Ray and I have a battle, or we have a fight, or we have a disagreement\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Okay; hold on. Stop! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Oh, yes; we do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Stop right there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019m looking over your shoulder to Ray, who is listening to this broadcast. Ray, I want you to come into the studio. [Laughter] I want you to tell us what she does when she turns you down. What do you think, Bob?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> That\u2019s cool!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Is that alright?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> I\u2019m cool.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He\u2019s coming into the studio.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> We are an open book. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We should welcome your husband, Ray McKelvy, who has joined us, here in the studio. Pastor Ray, welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you said you didn\u2019t want to be in this conversation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> I did <em>not <\/em>want to be a part of this conversation!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Alright; let\u2019s go back to the question.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> Okay; what was the question?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How does she turn you down?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> Well, you know, you have to realize my wife is very subtle, which is a surprise, I\u2019m sure, coming across here. Bob is like, \u201cYeah!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m going\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Subtle would not be one of the\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I haven\u2019t seen a lot of subtlety in the last\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> I\u2019m multi-faceted, guys!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, you are; alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> I would say this\u2014I can\u2019t remember her just directly turning me down.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> I have known her to turn away and pretend to be asleep. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> I wasn\u2019t supposed to snap and shake my head on that one\u2014boom-shock-a-laka\u2014that\u2019s what you do!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> I think that\u2019s more it. She would be turned away; and I would <em>know<\/em>, \u201cShe\u2019s not asleep, but she\u2019s <em>pretending<\/em> to be asleep.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> She\u2019s giving you a little non-verbal\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> \u201cCold shoulder\u201d is what we call it; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> That\u2019s what it\u2019s called!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> Yes; that\u2019s what it\u2019s called. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Is she doing that? Is she saying, \u201cI\u2019m mad at you,\u201d or is she saying, \u201cThis is just not a good time\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> Both.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Both?!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> I mean, it\u2019s happened where we\u2019ve had a conflict; and I <em>know<\/em>, by her body language, that it\u2019s just not going to happen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Because we just need to acknowledge that there are times when, emotionally, we\u2019re not together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And it doesn\u2019t\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014out of sync.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> Yes, that\u2019s true. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But there are also times when just, <em>physically<\/em>, it is like: \u201cI could not muster up the energy for this if I took a 5-Hour ENERGY<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. It\u2019s not going to do any good.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> And let me just say that that\u2019s <em>everybody<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> But let me tell you this\u2014I also say this in the book\u2014that you need to fight for intimacy. What I would do with Ray is say, \u201cLet me get a couple of hours of sleep, and I\u2019ll meet you at 4:00.\u201d And I keep my promises.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> Now, that\u2019s true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cInvite him home from work early.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> No; no. I am talking about 4:00 in the morning.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> That\u2019s 4:00 in the morning. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Set the alarm?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Whatever you have to do. But you ask God, and He wakes you up! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe wakes you up for intimacy! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You tell the story in the book\u2014I want Ray to comment on this\u2014because you had one of your ten children \/ I forget which one\u2014and the baby was still in your bedroom with you at about week six. You felt like, \u201cIt is time\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cfor the baby to go.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cIt is time for the baby to go.\u201d [Laughter] So you started making arrangements to take the baby out, and Robyn\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> She didn\u2019t want that to happen\u2014she was like, \u201cWell, she\u2019s just six weeks old!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI am like, \u201cNo; it\u2019s time for us to transition from having a baby-centered room back to our regular, intimate room that both of us would have.\u201d So, yes; I began to transition.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> No; he began to move the baby\u2019s stuff. [Laughter] It was like: \u201cMove the bassinet out of here.\u201d \u201cThere\u2019s no bassinet. Where\u2019s the baby going to sleep?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And you hadn\u2019t agreed to it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Oh, no! It wasn\u2019t a conversation\u2014he just started moving stuff. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So that was really your love language; wasn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> What?\u2014Ray just bossin\u2019 me?! [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBecause that\u2019s what he did\u2014he took <em>charge<\/em> of protecting our intimacy. Whether I liked it or not, it was something I <em>had<\/em> to agree with if I wanted to really honor him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, ultimately, you did honor him; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> And, after ten kids, I can still honor him. Amen; hallelujah! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, you know, we\u2019ve laughed a lot about this. For a lot of couples, this isn\u2019t a laughing matter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> Yes; that\u2019s so true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> This is something that has gone on way too long in their marriage, and they\u2019ve allowed for mediocrity or for the absence. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s one of the reasons why I <em>love<\/em> the fact that we take an extended period of time, at the<em> Weekend to Remember<\/em>, and get to this subject; because so many couples, who are there, have <em>never<\/em> heard a biblical view of marital intimacy. So many of them are struggling in this area; but who are they going to go to and say, \u201cHey, guess what we\u2019re struggling with?\u201d\u2014the pastor?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, let\u2019s admit it\u2014most of us have never heard a biblical sermon on sex.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We pull the curtain back [at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>]. We talk about what the Scriptures do teach about the sexual relationship in the marriage bed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We do it appropriately. We do it in a way that, I think, is honoring to what the Lord has to say about this issue, and that is not too graphic, but it is powerful.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Robyn, just comment\u2014because you\u2019ve done dozens of these conferences and you\u2019ve been to a number of them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes; right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How important is it that couples go to the <em>Weekend to Remember <\/em>and, if nothing else, just hear this one message at the conference?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Well, I think it\u2019s dire. I think it\u2019s dire; because we <em>don\u2019t <\/em>converse about this, not even with our dearest friends. If you can get to a place, where you can <em>begin<\/em> the conversation\u2014which is what we do at the <em>Weekend to Remember <\/em>conferences\u2014you are able to <em>begin<\/em> the conversation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen it\u2019s important that we continue the conversation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow do you do that? You start with resources. You\u2019ve got to have resources that continue the conversation when a speaker\u2019s not up in front of you. The <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> begins it, but then you have to continue it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> Okay; I have to jump in and say this\u2014I think what has really transformed Robyn and me \/ what has transformed our marriage has been the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> conferences\u2014the fact that we have to teach it over and over again. When you talk about pivotal moments or\u2014I think a lot of our transformation was over time, because of our constant exposure\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> \u2014to the truths\u2014over and over again. I think that\u2019s what\u2019s changed us in the area of sex or in any of the areas of a husband and wife relating to each other. I really believe that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; I agree.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> And one of the things\u2014let me just even share this, because it\u2019s in the book\u2014Ray was sexually-abused as a child. With that abuse, came a lot of fear, and a lot of misinformation, and some issues with our intimacy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow do you expose those lies? Well, we did some counseling, yes; but you expose them by continually getting under what\u2019s truth.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> So that\u2019s what we have done. That\u2019s why it\u2019s so necessary for us to get books and resources based on the truth, because the enemy has just taken these lies and just kind of, you know, tweaked it here and tweaked it there, differently for each of us. You have to expose your specific lie with the truth of God\u2019s Word.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What I want our listeners to hear\u2014out of Robyn and Ray\u2019s story is\u2014no matter what\u2019s happened to you, <em>God is able<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He is Almighty God. He is the Redeemer\u2014He delights\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> As Morris Chapman would say, \u201cHe is <em>more <\/em>than able.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He is more\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> \u2014more than able!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He is, and His power works best in a graveyard.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> Amen; amen! Good one! That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He raised Christ from the dead\u2014He can defeat death. He can bring about oneness in a marriage relationship and intimacy at a whole new level.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m going to have to move us to the altar call; because the service is winding down here, but\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Robyn:<\/strong> We\u2019re not ready. We still want to shout a little bit! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I understand. We\u2019ll shout while the next program is on the station here. We appreciate you guys. And Ray\u2014thanks for popping in here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ray:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We have copies of Robyn McKelvy\u2019s book, which is called <em>SOS: Sick of Sex<\/em>. It\u2019s in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. You can go online at FamilyLifeToday.com to request a copy, or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY and order over the phone. Again, the website\u2014FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to request Robyn\u2019s book, <em>SOS: Sick of Sex<\/em>. And don\u2019t forget\u2014Robyn and Ray are going to be speaking, this spring, at <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> getaways in Jacksonville, Florida \/ Hilton Head, South Carolina. They\u2019re also going to be in San Francisco, California; Ray\u2019s going to be in Reston, Virginia. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got dozens of these getaways happening in cities, all across the country, starting next month. If you register for an upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> getaway\u2014and by the way, you should\u2014because every marriage can benefit from a couple of days away, where the two of you are just focused on each other \/ on your relationship. You have a good time together\u2014you learn what the Bible has to say about marriage. It really is a great getaway weekend.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you register this week or next week, you pay the regular rate for yourself and your spouse comes free. It\u2019s the best offer we make, all year long; and it\u2019s available this week and next week. You can get the details, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd with that, we\u2019ve got to wrap things up for today. I hope you have a great weekend. I hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this Sunday. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I hope you can join us back on Monday when we\u2019re going to hear from a couple whose marriage\u2014well, in the early years, this was one of those marriages that you would have thought, \u201cThere is no way this marriage can survive.\u201d In fact, we\u2019ll meet a husband, who was so desperate, he thought about taking his own life in the midst of their marital trauma. But God had a different plan, and they\u2019ll share it with us on Monday. 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