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I saw a lightning storm, Dennis, over central Africa that I guestimate was 15,000 lightning strikes in about a five- minute span.Just amazing! And it all screams of the glory of God.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, December 23<sup>rd<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. The heavens declare the glory of God but only a few of us have had the opportunity to see it from a heavenly perspective. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ll hear more about that today. Stay with us.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition. I was just here thinking about\u2014who is it?\u2014Elon Musk, who will sell you a seat aboard his rocket launch to go into outer space\u2014like it\u2019s a quarter million dollars or something?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Is that round trip, Bob? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It better be! [Laughter] Leave you out there for a quarter million! But, if\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Read the fine print on the ticket, Bob!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014if you were fabulously wealthy, would you spend a quarter million dollars to go\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014on a trip to outer space?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No; no. But I\u2014if I had been younger, I might have applied at NASA to have been an astronaut.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We are going to hear today a conversation that you had with a guy who did apply to be an astronaut. His name is Butch Wilmore. The first time he applied, NASA turned him down; but later, the window reopened. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe got another chance to sit down and talk about why he wanted to be an astronaut. It led to the point that he was eventually the commander of the space station. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, we had the opportunity to talk to Butch while he was onboard the space station. Come to find out that he is a <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>listener\u2014he and his wife Deanna listen to this program regularly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think they\u2019re Legacy Partners too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think they do help support the ministry. When he came back to earth, you sat down with Butch and Deanna and got their story. He shared with you about the second chance he got\u2014the call he got from NASA, giving him a second chance at a face-to-face interview to see if he would possibly have the opportunity to go into outer space. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Recorded Interview]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> The first interview, I had less than a week\u2019s notice because it was the first interview. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey called me, literally, six days before I had to be in Houston. This next\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> And he had never interviewed before in his entire life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> That\u2019s true. I never had interviewed. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So the interview to be an astronaut\u2014 Huh?\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> The truth!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> \u2014 was the first! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> I\u2019ll tell you Dennis\u2014the second interview\u2014I had three months! I had three months\u2019 notice because we were moving \/ we were in the process of moving. I just couldn\u2019t get there until like the fourth or fifth week of the interview process. I did not want to memorize a list of things, but I wanted to be more prepared; because I \u201cUh\u2019d\u201d and \u201cYou know\u2019d\u201d and that type of thing on the first interview. You get an hour with the selection board and you get to tell them anything you want.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Tell\u2014tell them the one question they ask.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Oh they say: \u201cYes; tell about yourself since high school,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s the question.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> That\u2019s <em>the<\/em>\u2014 <strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> And then\u2014and then off you go! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> \u2014only question.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> And then off you go. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> The second time I\u2014I sat down. We were in California. I was on an exchange tour with the Air Force. I just talked about me to her 40 times\u2014I think it was the number\u2014before I finally went for the interview. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI came away from it\u2014I wasn\u2019t like: \u201cOh I wish I\u2019d have said that!\u201d \u201cOh I wish I hadn\u2019t said that!\u201d\u2014I wasn\u2019t that way at all on that second interview. The Lord allowed it and prepared, and I give Him the glory for the\u2014for even that part of it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The key word is \u201cprepare\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014because you were accepted, and there were how many guys in the astronaut program?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> In that class\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014men and women; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch: <\/strong>Yes, there was\u2014there were 17 selected that\u2014that selection. Again, there was like 6,000 or so that applied. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And that year was?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> 2000.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> 2000. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019d be nine years before\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Almost.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014you went to outer space. I want you to give us just a little glimpse of the nine years of training. I want you to for sure tell about the training you received on surviving a crash in a Russian Siberian winter [Laughter]\u2014a crash landing\u2014because you had to go somewhere outside of Moscow; right?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014in a forest\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014in January\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> True.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014to go through training.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> They picked the coldest time of the year: \u201cWhen is it going to be the coldest? Okay. Let\u2019s go that week.\u201d And they send you off. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen you\u2019re survival training in the\u2014for the Soyuz\u2014preparation for that launch. You launch at 51.6 degrees north latitude. You launch all around the calendar year. You\u2019re launching over mountains\u2014and so you could have an abort situation and you wind up in those situations\u2014and you have to survive. So yes; that\u2019s part of it. Yes; surviving\u2014building lean-tos, building tents, making fires out of nothing\u2014so that\u2019s\u2014that\u2019s just the survival training.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut the training, itself, for flying in space\u2014oh my goodness!\u2014for the space shuttle?\u2014I can\u2019t tell you the number\u2014the <em>thousands<\/em> of hours in simulators that I had. Most of the simulators that you do are not everything works great. As a matter of fact, you had one \/ there was one\u2014an ascent launch, when you first get all your different systems learned\u2014that they gave you a launch that was what they call \u201cnominal\u201d \/ without a problem. Every other launch, they\u2019d throw malfunction after malfunction. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019d have\u2014I\u2019d be working five major malfunctions in a shuttle ascent sim, all at the same time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You were\u2014you were the commander, for a number of months, of the International Space Station. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was called \u201cExpedition 41.\u201d You took over and you were the commander of \u201cExpedition 42.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There are tons of experiments going on that are taking place. Was there a crowning achievement? Was there something you look back on\u2014in terms of something that was done under your command\u2014that you go: \u201cThat was really satisfying. That was really a treat to have participated in that\u201d? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> I couldn\u2019t pick out one. I can name several things, but I could not pick out one. It\u2019s just\u2014I had the fortune \/ the good fortune of doing four space walks while I was up there. The work that we\u2019re doing\u2014outfitting the station for future crew \/ U.S. vehicles to dock to the station\u2014<em>that<\/em> is certainly gratifying\u2014but a lot of the work \/ there\u2019s <em>massive<\/em> amount of work done by teams on the ground\u2014preparing all the systems, the cables, the training\u2014outlining all that. It just\u2014the work in orbit doesn\u2019t even come close to taking place without those people on the ground doing their jobs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What was that first spacewalk like?\u2014to step outside of the International Space Station and look down below your legs to a million feet? [Laughter] I mean, I\u2019ve stood on some ledges before, and I\u2019ve repelled off of mountains for 200 feet but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Ooh.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014in outer space? Stepping out? What was that like? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> A long fall. Honestly, my first thought, because of the orientation of my position\u2014my feet came out first\u2014but as soon as I come out, and I grab the handrail that\u2019s outside there, and I see\u2014it was dark\u2014and I see my crewmate, Reid Wiseman\u2014and it\u2019s black\u2014and I\u2019m like: \u201cOh, my Lord! I cannot believe that I am here!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, this is\u2014the so few people have had an opportunity to do this\u2014go outside the space station and work like that on a spacewalk. Here I am\u2014little me\u2014getting the opportunity to do it. It was\u2014it was a moment where I just praised my Lord. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI don\u2019t know why\u2014but there I was\u2014because it\u2019s such a unique place to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ve read what you did so I know where you\u2019re headed with my next question. I\u2019m finding that I\u2019m grabbing my legs even as you\u2019re talking [Laughter] because every move you make is grabbing hold of one handrail, and thinking where your next one\u2019s going to go, and making sure you\u2019re tethered appropriately;\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014because if not, it could be fatal.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> It can be\u2014yes; true. We walk across the room\u2014we don\u2019t think about walking\u2014you just do it. It\u2019s not something you\u2019re cognizant of; but on a spacewalk, <em>every<\/em> <em>single<\/em> <em>movement<\/em> you make, you are thinking of it. You don\u2019t let go of one hand until you\u2019ve got the other one moved and grabbing. Then you let go and you\u2019re thinking all of this \/ all of the time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou get to your worksite: \u201cMy local tether\u2014got to get my local tether down,\u201d\u2014sometimes I used two to keep me stabilized. You\u2019re always rechecking \/ always checking. You have a safety tether\u201485\u2019 on a reel\u2014that you\u2019re making sure that you don\u2019t get tangled in. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAt nighttime, you don\u2019t have the peripheral vision \/ the cues; because it is like I said\u2014it is the blackest black you\u2019ve ever seen\u2014and can get disoriented easy. You still have to have cognizance where that safety tether is, because you don\u2019t want it to wrap around behind you because you can get snagged in it and you\u2014you have to get your buddy to come help you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> One of the things you said about the spacewalk\u2014it was 99.8 percent work?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Ninety-nine point eight percent work \/ two percent \u201cWow!\u201d But the \u201cWow!\u201d is the biggest \u201cWow!\u201d you could imagine! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, l I\u2019ve got\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Spacewalk\u2019s work!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ve got the verse for the \u201cWow!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Psalm 19:1\u2014I bet you know what that is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Go ahead; I do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The heavens\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis &amp; Butch:<\/strong> \u2014heavens declare\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Yes, sir.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014the glory of God and the sky above proclaims His handiwork. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> A-MEN!<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> How did you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> How true!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014how did you see the handiwork of God? I mean, give it your best shot, Butch.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> I\u2014it\u2019s not easy\u2014sensory overload. As you look back at the earth, in a span of like eight hours you can see Baja, California\u2014the desert contrasted with the blue Pacific and the sun gleaning off the entire ocean.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You said the Caribbean was spectacular.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> The Caribbean, the Bahamas\u2014like I said\u2014with eight hours, I saw the mouth of the Amazon River, the red deserts of Australia \/ these unbelievable lakes in Uzbekistan\u2014contrasted with this light, aqua blue and this\u2014you know, the wispy clouds and the tan-ness of the desert\u2014just sensory overload \/ just spectacular! It all screams of the glory of God\u2014I mean\u2014it absolutely does. I saw a lightning storm, Dennis, over central Africa\u2014one night pass\u2014that I guestimate was 15,000 lightning strikes in about a five-minute span\u2014just amazing!\u2014absolutely thrilling and amazing.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just found the entire experience, with no gravity, to be\u2014as I thought about it\u2014mentally exhausting. I thought about a spacewalk and how you practice the spacewalk, back here on earth\u2014five times in a giant pool\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014with this spacesuit on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMost people have got this picture of a spacesuit as being this\u2014you know, this little handy, jetpack that you strap on and you go. [Laughter] It weighs 230 pounds.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The suit costs eight million dollars.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> There-abouts\u2014yes, sir.\u00a0.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Alright? I want to just talk about the first time you put that on; because\u2014what is it?\u2014400\/500 steps in putting that suit on? Takes you four hours?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Yes. One thing that people don\u2019t realize is that, before you even open the hatch to go outside\u2014once you\u2019ve depressed the airlock down, you open the hatch\u2014before even that, you are in that suit for five hours, going through these 400 steps to make sure all the connections are right and all your tools are on. I mean, it goes on, and on, and on, and on. Then to make sure you are prepared\u2014there are no leaks in your suit\u2014like you said, it\u2019s a <em>mountain<\/em> of work. The hardest job in orbit\u2014<em>the<\/em> hardest job off the planet\u2014is the person that\u2019s in charge of suiting up the two people that are going outside. That\u2019s <em>the<\/em> hardest job. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFor those last three spacewalks\u2014that was Samantha Cristoforetti from Italy\u2014because <em>literally<\/em> our lives are in her hands. We don\u2019t know if she\u2019s gotten everything done correctly. We can kind of\u2014we\u2019re listening along obviously, but she\u2019s the one doing all the work to get us in the suits, and get everything done, and get pressurized. She\u2019s depressing the airlock \/ repressing\u2014doing all this stuff. That is a great, great deal of responsibility\u2014the person that does that job.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ve got to take you to one story\u2014that undoubtedly you know\u2014but it occurred during a spacewalk\u2014of how an Italian astronaut almost drowned in a spacewalk. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> True. Luca Parmitano.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What happened?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> There was a process in the fan pump separator that had\u2014we don\u2019t know all the details \/ it\u2019s hard to determine exactly what happened\u2014but there\u2019s water that is in the suit, in the backpack, that goes through\u2014you have a liquid-cooling undergarment that you wear that has these little tubes that runs through the whole thing. Water is pumped through that \/ those tubes to help keep you cool. You have to have that or you get very overheated inside the suit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere\u2019s a process where this water got into the wrong part of the suit and started coming into the air hole that allows the\u2014where the air comes into the suit for breathing. Over the course of a couple minutes\u2014we\u2019ve had some suits that have <em>spit<\/em> some, because you get some condensation in the system \/ it spits out a little water\u2014but in this instance, it was far more than that. It was in the course of\u2014like a liter-and-a-half or so that got into his helmet. There was an emergency to get him back inside. We went through emergency procedures to get him back inside. He basically found his way back, blind, because he couldn\u2019t see\u2014just handed himself all the way back to the airlock. Got him inside, emergency repressed the airlock, pulled him out, pulled his helmet off and\u2014thankfully, he was okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve gone through many things since then to go through the process. NASA\u2019s very good about assessing situations and coming up with fixes. They\u2019ve done some <em>wonderful<\/em> work to allow us to continue on.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You went\u2014you went through <em>Stepping Up<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, our video series, calling men to courageously step up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> I did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Why did you\u2014why did you go through that? For goodness sakes, you just strapped a rocket on with fuel and blasted your way into outer space \/ running around in spacesuits. Why did you ask Houston and NASA to upload that and watch that video series?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> I need continual input. The people asked me what I missed most when I was in station. I didn\u2019t miss anything, because it is such a unique environment. We prepared ourselves\u2014Deanna, and I, and the girls\u2014for our separation; but if I did miss one thing\u2014it was my church \/ my church family\u2014because the interaction we get, the study we get, the exhortation, the admonishment\u2014I need that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI knew I needed continual input, even that faraway place. I uplinked things that are special \/ that I had positive\u2014something\u2014you know, I had never seen it; but I had some positive comments on the <em>Stepping Up<\/em> program. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI knew that I needed to maintain and continue my journey that the Lord has put us all on\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> \u2014for His glory. I had heard some wonderful things about it. I asked for that to help me as I continue to study, even in that place, and try to learn and grow for His glory. It was a <em>huge<\/em> benefit. Some of the concepts and things I learned\u2014I probably \/ I talked about family worship\u2014it was through some conviction through <em>Stepping Up<\/em> that when I came back\u2014Deanna will back me up on this\u2014that my propensity to do our family worship is even more so than it was before; agreed?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Yes; because <em>Stepping Up<\/em> just put that conviction on me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You probably don\u2019t remember this\u2014but when you were on earth in Star City, Russia, outside of Moscow\u2014I said to you, \u201cIf you get a chance to go through <em>Stepping Up<\/em>\u2014whomever you take through up there and you as well\u2014realize that it\u2019s easy to step up in outer space\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> [Laughing] Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014where there is no gravity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> But when you get back here,\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014there\u2019s a <em>lot<\/em> of gravity\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Yes; I remember that well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014from a <em>lot<\/em> of different places.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Yes, sir.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So I\u2019m thrilled to hear that you personally benefitted from that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and that you truly are stepping up. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, we don\u2019t have time to get into the whole story; but Barbara, and I, and Laura, our daughter, were watching your reentry on TV. There was a blackout period for what seemed like 40 minutes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Forty-plus minutes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It was like: \u201cIs this normal?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Yes; blackout\u2014you mean communication\u2014there was no communication at all.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We didn\u2019t know if you\u2019d burned up\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014in the atmosphere.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We didn\u2019t know if you were safely through the atmosphere, making a safe landing. I\u2019ve got to tell you\u2014I wasn\u2019t at the command center in Houston, like you were\u2014they distracted you, Deanna.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> [Laughing] They did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I mean that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Thankfully!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Frankly, that was really wise of them to distract you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014because the communication wasn\u2019t occurring.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Right; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong>Butch:<\/strong> Our flight director \/ lead flight director, Tomas Gonzalez-Torres\u2014he was in a little room next door to where Deanna was in a viewing room with some guests and friends. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe walked in and turned down the sound so they wouldn\u2019t hear any of that. So she never knew. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> But yes; it was\u2014we could hear all the calls that were being made to us. They were even telling the space station guys: \u201cCall the Soyuz.\u201d And we\u2019d hear them call \/ we\u2019d answer; but for whatever reason, our communication wasn\u2019t going out. At that part of the entry, there is no tracking of the vehicle. The Russians have no tracking either. They had one little mobile site in Egypt, which is close\u2014it\u2019s not long before you actually touchdown\u2014that got a blip of us\u2014where we were supposed to be \/ when we were supposed to be there. <em>That<\/em> was the comforting thing I think for them\u2014like: \u201cOkay. They\u2019re okay,\u201d\u2014though they still couldn\u2019t talk to us. But that never got relayed back to Houston and to the people that would have it on television\u2014like what you were watching. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, they had completely surrounded the reentry vehicle.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What was in the red tent? I mean, they had this red tent\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014they took you all to. I was going, \u201cWhat\u2019s in there?\u201d [Laughter] Are they checking your blood pressure\/your oxygen?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Oh they were checking everything\u2014oh yes, everything\u2014yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What\u2019s the biggest health concern at that point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> It\u2019s not\u2014well, I guess it is a health concern\u2014you\u2019re adjusting to gravity. You haven\u2019t been stimulated by gravity and your semicircular canals in your inner ear\u2014and there\u2019s an adjustment period for that\u2014they\u2019re assessing. You stand up; and you actually stand up and walk with your eyes closed, heel to toe. Try to do that when you haven\u2019t been on the planet six months\u2014it\u2019s really hard when you\u2019ve been off the planet six months. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s assessing\u2014if we go to other planets\u2014if we go to Mars one day, it\u2019s only got the \/ a little over a third of the gravitational pull of the earth because of its size. Still, you go there\u2014you transit for six months\u2014you\u2019ve got to be able to function when you get there. So we\u2019re doing assessment, now, along those lines: \u201cWhat can you do when you first touchdown, back into the gravitational environment?\u201d\u2014that\u2019s going on.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019re changing out of your spacesuit into just a flight suit. Some of those, like I said, standard medical\u2014checking your temperature, and your pulse, and all that. That\u2019s part of it\u2014giving you water, because you need it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So Deanna, what was it like to see him for the first time?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Oh it was great! It was great to see him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He got on a NASA jet\u2014came back to\u2014I guess, Houston; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Yes; pulled up and\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> I got some memorable hugs when I got back. I tell you\u2014those\u2014my daughters, Daryn and Logan, and Deanna\u2014very memorable hugs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> They put us on the airplane first so we could go in and see him and talk to him for a little bit.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> \u2014before I came out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Yes; before he gets off.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> It was nice\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That has to be <em>powerful<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> It was.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Deanna:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> It was very special.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Nothing like a family\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Yes; very true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014to come home to.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Butch:<\/strong> Because you think\u2014I mean, we talked about it \/ like I called you up\u2014I was able to call Deanna \/ we talk about it. You come back\u2014in that fashion like I just described\u2014nothing\u2019s a guarantee, obviously \/ you never know for sure. There\u2019s always that opportunity\u2014it\u2019s a dangerous environment\u2014that you don\u2019t make it back, and we had talked about that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you do, from the whole\u2014you talk about ascents, spacewalks, reentry\u2014all those hazardous kind of situations. You\u2019re back safe\u2014the Lord brought us back together\u2014it is special \/ very special. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t[Studio]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, again, today, we\u2019ve been listing to a conversation that you had with Butch Wilmore and his wife Deanna. Butch was the commander of the International Space Station for a period of time. You got a chance, not only to talk with them, but they took you around and showed you NASA and Houston; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You got a chance to see the whole operation?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh I got to walk in some places that true tourists don\u2019t get to see.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It was a cool tour. I can\u2019t believe you hadn\u2019t been down there to visit NASA as well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I\u2019ll have to get down there; because there\u2019s a new Cheesecake Factory<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> in Houston that has opened up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That would be why you would go! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Got to get down there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, we\u2019re kind of chuckling here, at the end; but the clock is winding down here, in the month of December. Speaking of being on mission, FamilyLife wants to invite you to be on mission with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMake it your mission to support this ministry and be a part of bringing America\u2019s families back to the strength\u2014the moral and spiritual strength that they should have for the next generation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBob, I look at what\u2019s happening in our country; and I feel like, right now, you and I are battling for our grandkids.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We want them to grow up in a culture that has some moral and spiritual absolutes that are based on the Bible, and we want them to be successful when they establish their marriage \/ their family, when they have kids, and when they equip their kids to be able to live life as God designed it in their generation. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is all about that mission in, first of all, the listeners life, who\u2019s listening to this broadcast right now; but it\u2019s also about this\u2014with literally hundreds of thousands of others \/ perhaps millions around the world, who are listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. If you believe in the mission of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> and what we\u2019re doing here, could I invite you \/ could I challenge you to join with us in this mission? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMake it yours\u2014make it your family\u2019s mission! Say: \u201cYou know what? We\u2019re going to be a part of that. We\u2019re going to give and be a part of the overall mission.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara and I recently wrote out a check. We decided we wanted to be a part of, not only <em>FamilyLife<\/em>\u2019s mission, but also the mission of some other organizations. When you give, you\u2019re a part of that team. Would you join us and be on the team? We need you now more than ever. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Of course, when you make a yearend gift right now, your gift is effectively tripled because of the matching-gift opportunity that has been made available to us this month. Our Matching Gift Monitor, Michelle Hill, is here again with us today with an update on how we\u2019re doing in our progress toward the matching gift. Michelle\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Michelle: <\/strong>Sure Bob, I\u2019ll do that, but first I want to tell you how fun this has been for me, and I gotta let our listeners know I\u2019m going to disappear after today and get back to work on FamilyLife This Week, because remember Bob\u2026you\u2019re the one who gave me that job\u2026 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWell, it looks like the new match total of one point eight million dollars is motivating quite a few additional listeners to call us because today we\u2019re at one million and nineteen thousand dollars\u2026so thanks to everyone for partnering with us to keep FamilyLife Today and FamilyLife this Week on the air. And of course gifts are <strong><em>still<\/em><\/strong> being tripled, thanks to the match.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And it\u2019s easy for someone to make a yearend contribution. All you have to do is go to FamilyLifeToday.com and donate online, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to donate. Or you can mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223. We just want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d in advance, for whatever you\u2019re able to do in helping us with a yearend contribution, here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to be together to celebrate Jesus\u2019 birth over this holiday weekend. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I hope you can join us back on Monday when we\u2019re going to talk about God\u2019s design for moms. Motherhood has a mission. Gloria Furman joins us Monday to talk about just what God has in mind, both for the kids and for the moms, when He puts them together. Hope you can be here for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We hope you have a Merry Christmas, and we\u2019ll see you back Monday for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tHelp for today. 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