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Judge Tim Philpot says, if a couple is coming through his court, seeking a divorce, he wants to make sure they have thought carefully about what it is they are doing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Lots of people come into my courtroom and they want their children to talk to me\u2014and they want their children to talk to me about: \u201cI want to live with Daddy,\u201d or \u201cI want to live with Mommy.\u201d\u00a0 They are trying to get me to talk to the kid. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tVery often, I will say to them: \u201cI don\u2019t understand why you think it is okay just to be with your little boy every other weekend. Are you satisfied by a situation where you don\u2019t get to tuck your little boy into bed every single night?\u00a0 I\u2019ve got a feeling if I talk to your children, they would be against this divorce\u2014period. So, why don\u2019t you all figure out some way to work on the marriage instead of trying to put the child in the middle of the discussion about what bed he\u2019s going to sleep in?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, November 18<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll get a unique perspective today on the condition of the family in America from a family court judge from Kentucky. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. So, tell the truth\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Nothing but the truth?\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014have you ever\u2014the whole truth\u2014have you ever watched an entire episode of <em>Judge Judy<\/em> in the afternoon?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You\u2019ve never seen one?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019ve seen some little snippets of cases, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But not the whole thing?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014not to my knowledge can I confess to that sin. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I wonder about our guest. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I wonder. We have a judge with us\u2014Tim Philpot. Tim, have you ever watched an entire episode, start to finish?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Since I\u2019m under oath, I\u2019m going to say, \u201cYes; I have\u201d; and I am <em>ashamed<\/em> of that. I\u2019ve actually watched Jerry Springer too. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Oh my goodness!\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 Order in the court!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, if you have missed the earlier broadcasts with Tim, all I\u2019ve got to encourage you to do is\u2014after you\u2019ve listened to this one, go listen to them as well, online, and make sure you hear his wisdom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe has written a book called <em>Irretrievably Broken<\/em>. It\u2019s all about Judge Z. It\u2019s really Tim\u2019s name, as judge in a family court, and the lessons he\u2019s seen people demonstrate, and the ones he\u2019s learned, and the many he\u2019s taught others. He said he\u2019s a teacher\u2014he likes to be pedagogical [of or relating to teachers or education]. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; we should describe the book. It is almost fiction. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>It is fiction completely; but I can\u2019t get away from the fact that, you know, this has been my life for the last 13 years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt is imagination, but it\u2019s an informed imagination. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There are a lot of stories that show up in the book, where the names have been changed to protect the innocent; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>It\u2019s more fiction than that; but yes, it\u2019s more than just changing names. They are composite characters\u2014is probably the accurate way to say it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay; I want to talk about some of that in just a minute; but I want to go to you, as a young man, as a trial lawyer for 26 years. You did a lot of civil rights work. I want to ask you a very relevant question for us today: \u201cAs a follower of Christ, where are we, in the white community, missing our role and the importance that we are in the culture in addressing how this country is divided?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Wow. Okay; you\u2019ve opened up a can of worms, but I will jump in there; because I\u2019ve developed a recent passion about this that started when the guy went into the church in South Carolina, about a year ago\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014the white kid who killed all of the African Americans in the church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019re talking about Charleston. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Charleston\u2014and then, all of the stuff that\u2019s happened, here, more recently, this year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI got back on my horse again, but I became completely convinced that the main problem is that we don\u2019t go to church together. Now, that sounds kind of blunt and simple; but we don\u2019t know each other. There is some kind of disconnect in the worlds that we live in. I\u2019m actually pretty well convinced that churches that are just all white or just all black are a great offense to God. I don\u2019t know what to do about it except start living life together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, as I\u2019ve been thinking about it, too\u2014it\u2019s interesting\u2014I wouldn\u2019t have put it exactly like you did; but I\u2019ve been quoting Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, the Russian dissident. He made a statement\u2014he said: \u201cThere are two kinds of problems\u2014those that are far away, and those that are near. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWe need to go near\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Amen; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cthe problems\/\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cthe challenges.\u201d I\u2019ve used that statement by Solzhenitsyn to talk about the orphan\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and around the subject of foster care and adoption and going near the needs of orphans. I think we must have a relationship\u2014we need to go near people who are feeling marginalized\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and we need to strike up a friendship, which I have many\u2014and which I\u2019ve learned a ton\u2014but I\u2019m still not there. I\u2019m still learning, but I\u2019m not quitting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>I\u2019m just barely on the path, actually; but I\u2019m further down than most of my friends are. So, these kinds of difficult issues\u2014of adopting children \/\u00a0 living life with orphans, and under-served, and the poor\u2014and just getting near them\u2014is exactly what you said. Most of us are good talkers about all that kind of stuff; but that\u2019s about all we are, instead of kind of getting our hands dirty, down in the wrong side of town, sometimes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You don\u2019t know this; but our daughter and her husband have seven sons. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Wow. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay?\u00a0 Two of them are adopted\u2014two of them came as a result of going near orphans. They were in courts like yours. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019ve been to courtrooms, where we\u2019ve all marched in\u2014and I get emotional about this\u2014but it was fascinating to see the look on the judge\u2019s face when 30 people walk into his courtroom to celebrate the adoption of a little boy\u2014who was destined for some really tough, tough, tough stuff, as a young lad, growing up; but who is going to have a family\u2014still going to have a hard time. But the judge was <em>beaming<\/em>\u2014he <em>loved<\/em> it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou say in your book\u2014it\u2019s one of the favorite things, if not <em>the<\/em> favorite thing, that you\u2019ve done on the bench. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Tim: <\/strong>It\u2019s the only happy moment. In fact, I\u2019ve, lately, been saying in every adoption\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014and I\u2019m really serious\u2014I\u2019ll say: \u201cMr. and Mrs. So-and-So,\u201d\u2014whoever is adopting the child\u2014\u201cI want to thank you for adopting this child, not only for the child\u2019s sake, because you\u2019ve changed this child\u2019s life; but I\u2019m thanking you personally because my life is <em>horrible<\/em>.\u201d [Laughter] \u201cI hear nothing but bad news, here in family court\u2014divorces, domestic violence, neglect and abuse of children\u2014nothing but disputes all day long. Drug court\u2014I\u2019m doing that too. But you have given me the <em>only<\/em> happy moment of my week. I want to thank you for giving me a happy moment.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I want to ask you about that, because we\u2019ve talked about just how you are daily barraged with bad news and the tragedies of culture. If you look back on more than a dozen years of service, as a family court judge, what have been the two or three moments that you look back on and you go, \u201cThese were the highlights of my tenure\u201d? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd what would be the two or three moments you look back on, that you\u2019d say, \u201cYou know, I almost threw in the towel because of that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>I can usually only remember what happened yesterday, because whatever happened yesterday comes in and just kind of overwhelms and causes you to virtually forget everything else. I always say, \u201cIt\u2019s hard for me to learn something new \/ some new story in family court\u201d; but it does seem to happen once a month. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, it was not that long ago that I discovered that twins can have two different fathers, for instance. And you go, \u201cWell, hmm, somebody is pausing on that one.\u201d\u00a0 So, if you have had a relationship with men at a party or within 48 hours of each other\u2014and there are twins in there\u2014sometimes, they can have two different dads. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Wow!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>So, those are the kinds of things that you get; but that\u2019s on the negative side. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOn the positive side, you ask about a specific case. I\u2019m thinking about one case from, really, ten years ago, where the mom in this case\u2014a single mom, four kids, drugs, prostitution, everything you can think of\u2014hopeless case. The state workers were against her. All the experts said that she would never get better; but somehow, I decided that I thought she was probably going to be okay. I mean, she had done in her case plan what she was supposed to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI gave her those four kids back, hoping that nothing bad happened\u2014because I have gotten the phone call\u2014one time, especially, where I had given children back to a mom. I got the phone call that the mom had gone on a drug run to Florida, and the child was dead. So, you get\u2014as I say, this is not just about being good or bad \/ this is about life and death sometimes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd so, when I gave those four kids back to mom, I did it with my fingers crossed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe only reason I\u2019m thinking of her right now is that I saw her last week. [Laughter] She\u2019s doing <em>fantastic<\/em>, and she showed me pictures of her four kids; and she\u2019s a counselor now herself. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Wow!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>So, sometimes, you get these happy moments too. But it\u2019s\u2014but those are rare. The reason I\u2019m remembering that case is that it\u2019s <em>rare<\/em>. I mean, most of the time, it does not work out. Most of the time, too, it has something to do with drugs and alcohol. About 90 percent of the serious abuse cases have to do with drugs or alcohol. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You said you see somewhere between one and two cocaine babies each week?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Every week. There are four judges that do my job in Lexington, Kentucky; but yes, it\u2019s very common\u2014children born with cocaine in their systems. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What\u2019s a cocaine baby?\u00a0 Give us an idea of what the impact is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Hopefully\u2014and I would say, normally, there is no permanent effect of that \/ sometimes, there is\u2014but the children are going through withdrawal just like the parents are. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tUsually, it sort of turns out okay \/ usually, they end up being adopted by some family that really loves them and takes care of them. Those people that adopt are the heroes of the system, really. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I want to go back to what you were saying about the number of babies that are not being adopted by Christian families. In my opinion, there are some opportunities in this culture where the church needs to show up. This is one of them. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We need to be standing in line to take these foster care babies and, ultimately, adopt them into our families\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Amen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014if need be. The church is the only organization on the planet that has the size \/ the magnitude and the ability to address the size of this problem. There are 400,000 churches in America. There are 400,000 kids in the foster care system\u2014100,000 of which could be adopted <em>right<\/em> <em>now<\/em>. Why would we abandon them to be adopted by somebody else?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Yes; yes. My ultimate dream\u2014and I\u2019ve become cynical and skeptical\u2014so, I don\u2019t think it\u2019s going to happen\u2014but my ultimate dream is that the church could eliminate the social services \/ the church could eliminate the foster children\u2014the church would <em>become<\/em> the system. That\u2019s a big dream. But I\u2019ve got to believe it can, at least, happen in some places with some people; and that\u2019s part of my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, if I could turn you from the branch of government you are in\u2014you\u2019re in the judicial branch\u2014it\u2019s not your job to make the law \/ it\u2019s not your job to enforce the law\u2014it\u2019s your job to interpret the law; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But let\u2019s say I could to turn to you and say, \u201cNow, it is your job to make the law and to enforce the law.\u201d\u00a0 What are you running on and what policy decisions are you going to make?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>So, my agenda would be, in terms of the\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014for instance, one of the things I\u2019m trying to accomplish, actually, in Kentucky, right now, is just to slow down divorce. We have\u2014many states have zero waiting period, even with children. In Kentucky, you can wake up mad at your wife and be divorced, even with children, in 60 days\u2014boom!\u00a0 I would take those 60 days and make it a year\u2014I would. You made me king\u2014am I right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>You made me the king. If you\u2019re going to make me the king, it would be, at least, a year waiting period to make people think about it. I would probably settle for six months. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, the person, who says, \u201cWhy are you just prolonging the misery, Judge?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>That\u2019s what they will say. I know this\u2014lots of people come into my courtroom, and they want their children to talk to me\u2014they want their children to talk to me about: \u201cI want to live with Daddy,\u201d or \u201cI want to live with Mommy.\u201d\u00a0 They are trying to get me to talk to the kid. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tVery often, I will say to them: \u201cI may ask the child what he or she thinks about this divorce.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI don\u2019t understand why you think it is okay just to be with your little boy every other weekend. Are you satisfied by a situation where you don\u2019t get to tuck your little boy into bed every single night?\u00a0 I\u2019ve got a feeling, if I talk to your children, they would be against this divorce\u2014period. So, why don\u2019t you all figure out some way to work on the marriage instead of trying to put the child in the middle of the discussion about what bed he\u2019s going to sleep in?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, you\u2019re going to slow down the divorce rate\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014that\u2019s the first thing\u2014make people think about it a little longer \/ try a little harder. What else are you going to do?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Probably, something that you\u2019ve done in Arkansas, which is talk about marriage as a covenant more than a contract. Most people have no concept of what marriage really is. In fact, my book started when I began to ask people, \u201cWhat is marriage?\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019m still waiting on somebody to give me a good answer\u2014nobody knows. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would like to do something that makes it clear that, when you get married\u2014you know, we probably need to take more time \/ people need to take more time before they get married\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014trying to answer that question. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>\u2014trying to answer that question instead of waiting until it\u2019s too late. As I say, oftentimes, \u201cThe best time to get a divorce is before you get married,\u201d\u2014for many people. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Okay; hold on one second. Bob, pull up your phone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Click on the Family Manifesto and pull it up to where it talks about marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>About marriage; okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I want to read to you, Tim, a statement we crafted and made almost 25 years ago now; because I felt like there were some things that needed to be nailed down around marriage and family. It\u2019s not meant to be the all-inclusive, theological statement from the Bible about everything around marriage and family that exists; but it is designed to be a statement, from the Bible, that does clearly define what marriage is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, here is what it says in the Family Manifesto\u2014it says: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe believe God, not man, created marriage. We believe marriage was the first institution designed by God. We believe that the Bible teaches that the covenant of marriage is sacred and lifelong. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe Bible makes it clear that marriage is a legally-binding public declaration of commitment and a private consummation between one man and one woman\u2014never between the same sex. Therefore, we believe God gives a wife to a husband and a husband to a wife. They are to receive one another as God\u2019s unique and personal provision to help meet their mutual needs.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe go on to say: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe believe God created marriage for the purpose of couples glorifying God as one flesh, parenting godly children, and enjoying sexual pleasure. As iron sharpens iron, we believe God uses marriage to sharpen a man and a woman in the image of Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJust as the Trinity reflects equal worth with differing roles, we believe God created a man and a woman with equal worth but different roles and responsibilities in marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFinally, we declare the marriage commitment must be upheld in our culture as a sacred institution of God, in which men and women can experience the truest sense of spiritual, emotional, and physical intimacy so that the two can become one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, that\u2019s a long definition. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How\u2019d we do, Judge?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>You did fantastic. Here\u2019s the only problem: Most of the people I deal with\u2014I mean, any definition that includes God and talks about the Bible\u2014nobody cares. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, toss that out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>You guys already know that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>So, you have this idea that\u2014again, marriage is both a spiritual thing; but it\u2019s also a legal concept. I can\u2019t define words on a piece of paper\u2014I define marriage more in terms of the way I think about my relationship with my wife. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy wife and I\u2014we\u2019re completely different\u2014opposite as can be. I am\u2014she is a little bit of a night owl, and I like to go to be early. One way I define marriage is\u2014I go to bed early. Usually, the lights are out when she comes to bed; and I\u2019m lying in bed. Even in the winter, when she comes into the bed, with socks on her feet and a wooly night gown, knowing she\u2019s there is, perhaps, the happiest moment of my life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe only thing that gets close to it is the next morning\u2014I get up at 5:30. I usually leave the house at 6:00. She sleeps in a little bit; and as I\u2019m getting ready to leave, I lean over and I kiss her on the cheek and I say, \u201cBaby, I love you.\u201d\u00a0 She says, \u201cBaby, I love you.\u201d\u00a0 She knows that I\u2019m leaving the house to do what I\u2019m supposed to do, and I know that she\u2019s going to be doing what she\u2019s supposed to do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have this kind of this holy partnership. Just that \u201cI love you,\u201d early in the morning\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014I hope I can say this and you don\u2019t have to bleep it\u2014but it\u2019s better than sex. It\u2019s an intimacy of love that defines marriage, for me, better than any words on a piece of paper. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Marriage is forged with a promise. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Amen; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It is forged with a covenant between three\u2014a man, a woman, and their God for a lifetime. You said you heard a quote. Was it by Chesterton about fences and about moving fences?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Yes; it is the paradox of the fence that Chesterton talked about. You\u2019re travelling down the road, and there is a fence. Well, reformers want to move the fence quickly; but Chesterton says, \u201cYou should never move a fence until you\u2019ve taken the time to discover why the fence was put there.\u201d\u00a0 As long as you\u2019ve taken the time and done the research to discover why the fence is there in the first place\u2014if you then know that\u2014then, you\u2019re free to choose to remove the fence if you wish to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>But he uses that with regard to marriage\u2014and this was written in the 1920s, by the way. He was concerned that people were trying to remove marriage and family, even in that day. He was saying: \u201cThis is crazy!\u00a0 Why are we trying to do away with marriage and the familial stuff?\u00a0 You shouldn\u2019t do it quickly.\u201d\u00a0 Of course, that\u2019s one of the great shockers in the last three or four years\u2014things are moving <em>very<\/em> fast, here in the United States. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You wouldn\u2019t know it; but I have used a quote by him, where he says, \u201cMarriage is like a glorious mansion\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cfilled with all kinds of pleasant rooms and discoveries.\u201d\u00a0 I have added to that: \u201cThe fence of the covenant is what surrounds that mansion, and what keeps bad things out and good people in, and helps that mansion survive for a lifetime.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>The problem is\u2014today, we\u2019re dismantling the promise. We\u2019re also dismantling the very definition of what a marriage is in the first place. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We\u2019re moving the fences, and we didn\u2019t stop to investigate why they are there in the first place. Some fences need to come down\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014but some fences are pretty good boundaries; aren\u2019t they?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Right; people don\u2019t see any basic value in marriage. It\u2019s just meaningless\u2014both from a legal standpoint, whether you get married or not makes very little difference to anybody. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, I hope, after people have had a chance to read <em>Irretrievably Broken<\/em>, they\u2019ll have a little different view of marriage. <em>Irretrievably Broken<\/em> is the novel that you have written, and we\u2019ve got copies of it in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. Folks can go online to request a copy\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014or they can call us at 1-800-FL-TODAY to get a copy. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; and our toll-free number is 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d to Legacy Partners\u2014monthly donors \/ givers to FamilyLife\u2014who make this broadcast possible. I just want you to take a step back and think about how your giving made this broadcast possible\u2014a pro-marriage, pro-family, honoring God\u2019s design for marriage and family as the Scriptures present it. You made this broadcast possible to a ton of people, here in the United States, and to who knows how many millions of people internationally in more than three dozen countries around the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And one of the couples you\u2019re helping us connect with today is Robb and Crystal Bennett, who live in Mountlake Terrace, Washington. Today is the Bennetts\u2019 ten-year anniversary. They are alumni of the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em>. We just want to say, \u201cHappy anniversary!\u201d to Robb and Crystal as they celebrate ten years together today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSpeaking of the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>, that\u2019s where I\u2019m going to be spending the weekend\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014at the getaway in Philadelphia \/ actually, in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania. We\u2019ve got another seven or eight getaways happening this weekend. There is one up along the Chesapeake Bay in Maryland; Monterey, California; Portland, Oregon; St. Louis, Missouri; San Antonio, Texas; San Diego, California. We\u2019re in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho; and Williamsburg, Virginia. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPray for the couples who will be attending one of these getaways this weekend. Then, ask yourself the question, \u201cIs it time for us to have a getaway?\u201d\u00a0 Maybe, not this weekend; but maybe, you want to plan for the spring\u2014for the two of you to have a fun, romantic getaway, as a couple, and spend some time talking about your marriage \/ doing some preventative maintenance so that your marriage does, indeed, go the distance. Find out more about the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> online at FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDennis\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, I just want to thank the Judge. [Laughter]\u00a0 You\u2019ve been a delight to have in the studio. Our friend, Bill Eyster, put us on to you; and we took a gamble. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, Bill\u2019s a good man; but I just wasn\u2019t sure about another Wildcat coming into FamilyLife down here\u2014[Laughter]\u2014Kentucky Wildcat. But you have not disappointed, Tim. I really appreciate you\u2014I\u2019m glad you are on the bench. I think you\u2019ve probably given some boys and girls, who are listening to this broadcast, the vision: \u201cMaybe, someday, I could be a judge. Maybe, I could represent God\u2019s view and love of people on the bench like Judge Philpot.\u201d\u00a0 Thanks for being on the broadcast. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Tim: <\/strong>Thank you, Dennis. This has been wonderful. Thank you all. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong><em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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