{"id":304226,"date":"2016-10-26T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-10-26T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/the-spiritual-component-of-sexuality\/"},"modified":"2016-10-26T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2016-10-26T15:00:00","slug":"the-spiritual-component-of-sexuality","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-spiritual-component-of-sexuality\/","title":{"rendered":"The Spiritual Component of Sexuality"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Scripture says that sexuality is spiritual. When Dr. Juli Slattery realized this, she dedicated three months to pray about this area of her life. 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When Dr. Juli Slattery realized this, she dedicated three months to pray about this area of her life. As she drew near to the Lord, she grew closer to her husband.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2016-10-26.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Dr. Juli Slattery had been married ten years before there was a breakthrough that occurred in her marriage in the area of marital intimacy.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> We had many years of boredom. You know, one of the first steps I took was I dedicated three months: \u201cLord, I\u2019m going to pray about this area of my life. I\u2019m going to <em>learn<\/em> to enjoy it, and I\u2019m going to learn to pursue it.\u201d I got serious about saying: \u201cGod, You\u2019re not okay with where we are. I\u2019m not okay with where we are. I\u2019m going to devote myself to helping change that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, October 26<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey. I'm Bob Lepine. Could it be that a season of prayer and study could actually bring about a breakthrough in your marital intimacy? We\u2019ll talk more about that with Dr. Juli Slattery today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I hope our listeners have been hanging with us here this week as we\u2019ve been talking about a sensitive subject. I have to tell you\u2014just in the conversation, there is such rightness in talking in a healthy\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh and it\u2019s healthy!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014biblical way\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014about what God created.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> If there\u2019s a radio program on\u2014on all of radio\u2014it ought to be a Christian radio program talking about sex from a biblical perspective. Dr. Juli Slattery has been with us this week. I just want to tell you: \u201cYou\u2019re doing a great job. Your book is excellent\u2014<em>25 Questions You\u2019re Afraid to Ask About Love, Sex and Intimacy<\/em>.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJuli\u2014welcome back to the broadcast, first of all. I just want to ask you\u2014you\u2019ve been married since 1994 \/ you have three sons: \u201cWhat is the most important lesson you personally have learned about love, sex, and intimacy?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> That this is spiritual terrain. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s not just a matter of good parenting or having a happy marriage\u2014that sexuality represents a very intense spiritual battle. When I learned that, it was a total game changer in how I approached this in my marriage and parenting.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, in essence, you\u2019re saying: \u201cWho are you listening to?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cAre you listening to the Bible and God\u2019s perspective of sex?\u201d\u2014because that\u2019s really the only place you\u2019re going to find it is in the Bible\u2014or \u201cAre you listening, watching, and feeding from what the world is?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; when you\u2019re standing at the supermarket checkout line and <em>Cosmo<\/em> is there\u2014what they\u2019re advertising on the front cover is not, \u201cHere\u2019s how to think biblically about sexuality\u201d; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> No; no.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> They\u2019re kind of compartmentalizing it to a purely biological activity that you can disassociate from every other aspect of your life. When people think that way, what happens to their sexuality?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Well, and I think a lot of Christians do think that way\u2014they think that sexuality is compartmentalized. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat happens is that you never realize that Jesus needs to be Lord of that area of your life too. In 1 Corinthians 6, it talks about the sexual, and spiritual, and the relational all being intertwined\u2014that you can\u2019t make a sexual choice that isn\u2019t also spiritual. When you start to understand that\u2014that this is a major battle; and if I\u2019m not careful with even the little choices I make, I can be contributing to evil I <em>hate<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBoy, when you get that, it changes\u2014for example, we all hate sex trafficking and sexual exploitation. We hate it \/ we wish it would go away. But we don\u2019t realize that our choices\u2014for example, to look at pornography feeds into sexual exploitation and trafficking\u2014that we have a part to play in that. Even just a cavalier attitude about casual sex\u2014and you can hook up with whomever you want\u2014you\u2019re contributing to the enemy\u2019s design on tarnishing sexuality. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s really convicting. It changes the way we pray, and it changes the way we act.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to take a step back and just address a couple, who are listening to our broadcast, where sex has become boring. The romance is kind of out the window\u2014it\u2019s a routine, it\u2019s a duty, it has lost its zest, and\u2014well, whether a man or a woman, it can just be something you just \u201chave to do\u201d or neglect to do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. Let\u2019s say somebody comes to you and says, \u201cOkay; here\u2019s our deal\u2026\u201d\u2014a couple in their 30s \/ they\u2019ve got three kids. Both of them have full-time jobs. They would say: \u201cYou know, I guess for the last year, maybe once or twice a month we\u2019ll have sex and it is okay; but it kind of feels more like a chore. I\u2019m honestly\u2014I\u2019m really okay if we just kind of let it phase out of our marriage.\u201d There are people thinking like that; aren\u2019t there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> There are; absolutely! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would say: \u201cFirst of all, you\u2019re normal. Those are normal seasons of marriage. Second of all, you might be okay with letting it fade away; but God\u2019s not okay with letting it fade away. We know that because, in 1 Corinthians 7, one of the few very specific pieces of marriage advice that we get from the Bible is: \u201cDon\u2019t neglect sexual intimacy except for mutual consent for a time of prayer,\u201d\u2014that\u2019s the only reason why you should be avoiding this.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, of course, there are health issues and things like that you may need to work through; but the spirit of it is: \u201cThis is <em>very<\/em> important for you to pursue,\u201d\u2014that would be the challenge of: \u201cGod would say you need to keep working on this,\u201d\u2014but it is normal to struggle.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Even if the husband and wife kind of mutually say, \u201cWe\u2019re okay with it sliding,\u201d you\u2019re saying: \u201cYou may be, but God\u2019s not. You need to make this a more active discipline in your marriage\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Absolutely! And the biology actually supports that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe biology shows\u2014now that we understand more about the brain and sexual response\u2014that if a couple is sexually intimate on a regular basis, the hormones that are produced in the brain bond that husband and wife together\u2014actually, in some ways \/ in a very healthy way\u2014make you <em>addicted<\/em> to your spouse, where you can\u2019t wait to see them \/ you can\u2019t wait to be with them. You get a hormone in your body called oxytocin that makes them more pleasurable to you \/ like less offensive. It\u2019s the same hormone that a new mom gets when they have a baby, because you need to love that baby no matter what happens. God has created sexual intimacy, when it occurs regularly in the confines of a relationship, to be glue that continually draws a couple together. To neglect that is, not only something that God says is a bad idea, it\u2019s what scientific research is saying is a bad idea. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> In your book, you talk about a couple that almost sounds like what Bob was describing\u2014been married ten years, had three kids, and were going through a time of sexual struggle\/boredom. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat couple was you and your husband.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Yes. [Laughter]\u00a0 We had many years of boredom. One of the first steps I took was\u2014I dedicated three months: \u201cLord, I\u2019m going to pray about this area of my life. I\u2019m going to <em>learn<\/em> to enjoy it, and I\u2019m going to learn to pursue it,\u201d\u2014 which was just something that God gave me and challenged me with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m a very goal-oriented person; and when I set my mind on doing something, I put energy into it\u2014I save time for it; I think about it; I pray about it. That\u2019s what happened in this area of our marriage\u2014is I got serious about saying: \u201cGod, You\u2019re not okay with where we are \/ I\u2019m not okay with where we are. I\u2019m going to devote myself to helping change that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you tell Mike you were going to do that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> No; I didn\u2019t want the accountability! [Laughter] I told him after! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So what happened in that three-month period?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> A lot happened! I think I could see definite changes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Is Mike where we can call him right now? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> He probably is.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Let\u2019s get him on the phone and find out what happened.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Really?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Really!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> [Laughter] You are serious?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019m serious.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You good with this?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Yes; sure! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Alright.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli: <\/strong>I don\u2019t know if he will be, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> \u2014we\u2019ll see.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014we\u2019ll find out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli: <\/strong>Ask him honestly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think our engineer, Keith, is punching up the phone number right now. [Phone ringing]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> Hi; this is Mike speaking. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Mike Slattery.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s Bob Lepine from <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. I\u2019m here with Dennis Rainey and your wife, whom I\u2014I heard her call you \u201cSwoo\u201d? Is that the\u2014is that\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> What does that stand for?\u2014Swoo?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> I don\u2019t\u2014there\u2019s not a real actual acronym or what not\u2014it\u2019s just a song we made up, way back when, \u201cSwee Swoo\u201d and \u201cSwoo\u201d just kind of stuck after that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It just stuck\u2014well that\u2019s nice!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So Mike, I just turned to Juli and I said, \u201cSo, you prayed about your intimacy with your husband for three months\u201d and I asked her \/ I said, \u201cSo did you tell Mike?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said \u201cNo; I didn\u2019t want the accountability!\u201d [Laughter] We were starting to ask her; and we thought, \u201cNo; let\u2019s just call Mike!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat did you think about what was happening, Mike?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> I think anytime you go back to God for anything\u2014be it a budget, be it parenting, be it physical intimacy\u2014you\u2019re never going to go wrong. As Christians, that\u2019s what we subscribe to\u2014God has all the answers, and any area of our life is open to prayer with that. I think the world kind of guides us away from that, but I think that\u2019s the best thing to do. Juli has been a great example of doing that\u2014she lives what she says. If she doesn\u2019t, she prays about it. We\u2019re very open with that communication, which has been great. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When did it dawn on you this was an area that your wife was beginning to pray about this whole issue of intimacy in marriage and that God was at work?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Well, if I could\u2014maybe just tell a story to kind of prompt the memory of what was happening. This was probably a good ten years ago, before I started off thinking of Intimacy. I would have my quiet time in the evening. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs any young mom knows, the evening is your time\u2014where you put the kids to bed; you don\u2019t want to be bothered; you have your tea; and your Bible, or books, or whatever. I would have my quiet time and just be asking God, \u201cWould You show me how to draw closer to You and how to love You?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDuring that period of time\u2014of beginning to pray about this\u2014the Lord would begin speaking to me, \u201dIf you want to love Me, then go up and just initiate with your husband.\u201d There were a few times\u2014and it\u2019s become more frequent now\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> Exactly; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> \u2014where I\u2019ll be doing my quiet time, whether it\u2019s in the morning or the evening\u2014and that\u2019s the word that the Lord will give me\u2014is: \u201cThis is a way that you honor Me.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> Yes; basically, I remember when there was one time where Jules was\u2014in her routine, typically on Saturday\u2014Juli would get up, she\u2019ll go down and do her quiet time\u2014kind of her normal routine, Monday through Sunday\u2014she\u2019ll do that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf it\u2019s like on a weekend, when I\u2019m not going to work or jumping to the gym, I\u2019ll kind of stay in bed and kind of let her do her\u2014that\u2019s her time with God. I never want to encroach on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere was a time, where I was praying about it\u2014and I just doing my quiet time, and she was doing her quiet time. We were both praying about the same thing. Then Juli came up, and we would kind of share that together\u2014like: \u201cWere you praying about this?\u201d and \u201cI was praying about this,\u201d \u201cI think God heard us.\u201d [Laughter] So that was really\u2014that was very special.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re a good sport, Mike. Thanks for letting us interrupt your day and just authenticate what your wife has been sharing with us here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> I appreciate it. Thank you, guys, for getting the message out, because Juli\u2019s been doing this for the last several years. When she was at Focus\u2014and initially, when God was pulling her away, we prayed about it. I said, \u201cAs long as you\u2019re sure this is what God wants you to do, I\u2019m 100 percent behind you.\u201d It\u2019s been a great journey. The main thing is we\u2019re all used by God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I appreciate your courage too. The easiest thing to do is nothing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> Sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> The easiest thing to say, if you\u2019re a very private person, is nothing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And in the process, there\u2019s a lot of folks, again, who have received some help and hope as a result of you guys being honest about your own marriage. Pray God\u2019s favor on you in your pursuit in your vocation but also in your family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> Thank you so much. I truly appreciate it. God bless. God bless all of you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You want to say, \u201cGoodbye,\u201d to your husband?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> I love you Hon. Thanks for being a good sport.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> Okay; I love you Baby-doll. Look forward to seeing you tonight baby; alright. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Me too; bye.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Mike:<\/strong> Bye-bye.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> [Laughter] I wish they could see Juli\u2019s grin, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think they could <em>hear<\/em> Juli\u2019s grin\u2014[Laughter] \u2014as she said, \u201cGoodbye,\u201d to her husband. You\u2019ve been married how many years?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Twenty-two years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you\u2019re looking forward to seeing him tonight?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Yes; of course, I am\u2014he\u2019s my best friend. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>If your marriage had been on the trajectory \/ if it had remained on the trajectory that it was on\u2014if you hadn\u2019t, ten\/twelve years ago, had this kind of three months before the Lord, where do you think you\u2019d be today?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Not where we are; because I had all the education I needed, as a clinical psychologist. I worked with couples on marriage issues and sexual issues but never really understood the power of inviting God, and the power of bringing sexuality under His Lordship, because I\u2019d never heard that before. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen you invite God into any sphere of your life, He\u2019s going to confront you on things that are difficult\u2014yes\u2014but He\u2019s \/ but He\u2019s going to provide hope and healing in ways that you didn\u2019t know you needed.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re a clinical psychologist. I\u2019d like you to give your best counsel to men about understanding their wives.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> I guess the analogy that I like to use regarding sexuality\u2014and this is because I\u2019m a mom of three boys\u2014is I like to talk about Legos<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. If you, on your honeymoon\u2014you think you\u2019re going to open up this great gift that\u2019s going to be complete\u2014you\u2019ll be really disappointed. And that\u2019s the truth with Legos. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you go to the store and buy a package of Legos, and you see this beautiful thing on the outside\u2014this cool Bat mobile or whatever it is\u2014and you open it up, you\u2019re disappointed. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would encourage <em>men<\/em> that God has given you a <em>gift<\/em> of building something together that, at first, isn\u2019t going to make any sense; but that\u2019s part of the design\u2014that He\u2019s challenging you to learn to love, and to build, and to sacrifice. Your wife may take years\/ I\u2019m going to say your wife may take decades to really understand sexually, and emotionally, and spiritually. She does not understand herself. But God\u2019s challenge to you is to: \u201cContinue to build; continue to pursue; ask God for wisdom\u2014have a sensitive heart.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is the other thing I think we pass right over\u2014in Ephesians, Chapter 5, Paul writes specifically to husbands. He says to \u201c\u2026love your wives as Christ loved the church and laid Himself down for her.\u201d Then it says that \u201cHe washed the church with the word, presenting her as a spotless bride.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPart of what Paul is saying to you, as a husband, is: \u201cAre you protecting the purity of your wife so that you can present her as a spotless bride?\u201d Don\u2019t bring anything into your mind or your bedroom that would defile your wife. Make that a safe place, emotionally and spiritually.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I would add one other thing too: \u201cIf you think you\u2019re going to trade in this box of Legos for a better box, that\u2019s all put together perfectly\u2014it\u2019s a lie.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cIt\u2019s a lie. The box God has given you is the one you need to keep your covenant with \/ keep building into and stay the course. Don\u2019t quit.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOkay; Juli\u2014now, I want you to take the women underneath your arm and just counsel them. What would you say to them about their relationship with their husband?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Well, I would say, \u201cDon\u2019t underestimate the power of sexuality,\u201d\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that so often we think of power as a bad thing\u2014but I see that God has given a wife, naturally, tremendous power in marriage around the issue of her body and sexuality. Because we\u2019re not always open and honest about that being a powerful tool that God has given, we don\u2019t use that power well\u2014we either neglect it; we don\u2019t prioritize it; or we use it in a manipulative way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can say: \u201cOh man, God has given me a place of power in my husband\u2019s life that I\u2019m jealous of\u2014I don\u2019t want any other woman on the planet to have this power with my husband. I want to learn to use it effectively to capture his heart \/ to share something with him that no one else gets to share with him.\u201d That\u2019s going to take work to pursue; and I\u2019ve shared in my own testimony how it has taken work, but it is <em>so<\/em> worth it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I want to ask you about that power\u2014because we\u2019ve seen husbands and wives get pulled outside of the marriage covenant; because another woman uses that power with a married man, or because a married man pursues a married woman. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen a couple takes sexuality outside of their marriage\u2014when they give up on what ought to be going on at home or when they just supplement it with an affair\u2014what\u2019s really going on in the heart of the husband or the heart of the wife in pursuing that infidelity in the first place?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli: <\/strong>There can be lots of things going on, but I think a profound thing is\u2014they\u2019ve never really understood, in the concept of covenant, that sexuality is all about covenant. The reason that God says it\u2019s reserved for marriage is because there\u2019s this lifelong promise or covenant. If you take it outside of that, you\u2019re destroying something so spiritual and special, that recovering from that is <em>tremendously<\/em> difficult. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFirst, there\u2019s that discounting of the covenant\u2014but also, pretty much with every situation where there\u2019s an emotional or sexual affair, you can kind of do the forensic on that relationship. The couple can begin to tell you, \u201cThis is when we started drifting apart,\u201d\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014whether it was when she got busy with the kids, or she put on weight and didn\u2019t feel sexy anymore, or he got so pulled into his career that he stopped spending time with her.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know you two work on marriages so much that you\u2019ve seen this\u2014that affairs don\u2019t begin with that relationship of being sexually unfaithful\u2014they begin when you get seeds planted in your mind that: \u201cSomeone else can love me more than this person loves me.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s an emotional connection\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014not a physical connection\u2014but it grows into that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think what \/ what our listeners need to know that: \u201cIf your relationship is teetering toward an emotional affair, the advice is: \u2018You\u2019ve got to extinguish the chemical reaction now. You\u2019ve got to take the number out of your cell phone; you\u2019ve got to completely sever the relationship\u2014if it means changing places of work because of the temptation\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you have to protect your marriage, and your family, your children, your legacy.\u2019 This is really, really important what we\u2019re talking about here.\u201d I so agree with your advice: \u201cProtect your covenant at all costs.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I think you made a good point. You might just pull back and analyze, \u201cWhat is it that I\u2019m most attracted to here?\u201d because that will help you identify what\u2019s been lacking\u2014some longing that\u2019s an unmet longing\u2014that was designed for marriage that may not be happening in marriage. Then sit down with your husband or your wife and say: \u201cYou know, there\u2019s an area in my heart that I\u2019ve just felt lonely in,\u201d or \u201c\u2026I felt lacking,\u201d \u201c\u2026.an area where we can\u2014can we work on this together, and can we try to grow this together?\u201d\u2014rather than saying: \u201cI\u2019m just going to go find it somewhere else.\u201d It is poisoned fruit outside the marriage covenant. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe other thing I encourage you to do is\u2014just honestly ask the Lord\u2014and even to share with a mentor and ask, \u201cWhat lies am I believing?\u201d because the enemy works in lies. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> He will convince you that you\u2019re going to be happier with someone else, or some other guy is going to understand you more than your husband does, or that God can\u2019t rekindle and restore your relationship with your husband or your wife. You need to confront those lies with truth.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re not going to trade in this box of Legos and find another box that\u2019s perfectly put together, exactly the way you want it. You\u2019re still going to be dealing with your selfishness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Juli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019re going to be dealing with another person\u2019s selfishness; and then, you\u2019re going to be dealing with the debris of a broken marriage \/ a broken family. That\u2019s not a recipe for success in marriage, family, or in life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJuli, I just want you to know I\u2019m really proud of you for stepping out in faith and beginning this new ministry called Authentic Intimacy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI know that you didn\u2019t have to go try this \/ go do this, but I think it\u2019s a much needed area in our country. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI hope that our listeners will get a copy of your book. I hope they\u2019ll use it to talk with their sons\/their daughters\u2014whether they are still yet at home or as adult children\u2014about this important area and dimension of the marriage relationship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; some of them are going to want to subscribe to your podcast, and they can do that. In fact, we\u2019ve got instructions on our website if you want to find out more about what Juli is doing with the <em>Java with Juli<\/em> podcast\u2014you can download it. There\u2019s information available when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And in case you didn\u2019t notice, it\u2019s the <em>Java with Juli<\/em> with a little mocha, a little chocolate, and a little whipped cream. [Laughter] There\u2019s some spice\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Hazelnut\u2014there\u2019s some hazelnut in there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> We\u2019ll stop right there! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Go to FamilyLifeToday.com and you can download the podcast. You can also order a copy of Juli\u2019s book, <em>25 Questions You\u2019re Afraid to Ask About Love, Sex and Intimacy<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. Or you can order the book when you call us, toll free, at 1-800-FL-TODAY\u20141-800-358-6329.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe mentioned this last week\u2014we\u2019ve had a lot of our listeners who have started using the ten family devotions that we\u2019ve put together that are available on the FamilyLife app on your smartphone or your device. These devotions are designed to help us, as families, keep our hearts and minds focused on Christ in the middle of what can be unstable times. You can find the devotions if you have the FamilyLife app on your smartphone or device\u2014just pull it up and click where it says, \u201cHelp and Hope.\u201d Or you can download the devotions as a pdf document from our website at FamilyLifeToday.com. We hope you\u2019ll do that; and you\u2019ll find the devotions helpful as you shepherd your family and seek to keep your eyes fixed on the One, who is the author and finisher of our faith.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got a couple of couples who are celebrating anniversaries today. First, Ralph and Jean Carlson, who live in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, and who listen to KTIS\u201442 years of marriage today. Then in Columbus, Ohio, Brian and Michele Livingston\u2014they listen to WRFD, and they\u2019ve been married six years today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve been celebrating anniversaries all this year because 2016 is FamilyLife\u2019s 40<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary. We thought the best way to celebrate 40 years of ministry is to just reflect on all of the marriages that are still together, in part, because of how God has used <em>FamilyLife<\/em> in the lives of so many couples who listen to this program.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can make a donation today, we\u2019d love to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a banner that Barbara Rainey has created for the home that declares your home as an embassy of the kingdom of heaven. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s our thank-you gift when you make a donation online at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can request the banner when you call 1-800-FL-TODAY to donate or when you mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, our friend, Steven Curtis Chapman\u2019s, going to stop by. We\u2019re going to visit with him. Hope you can be here for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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