{"id":304214,"date":"2016-10-18T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-10-18T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/teaching-your-kids-to-handle-loss\/"},"modified":"2016-10-18T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2016-10-18T15:00:00","slug":"teaching-your-kids-to-handle-loss","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/teaching-your-kids-to-handle-loss\/","title":{"rendered":"Teaching Your Kids to Handle Loss"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dennis and Barbara Rainey coach parents on how to teach their children to be anxious for nothing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2016-10-18.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"22.23M","filesize_raw":"23307991","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2822,2821],"tags":[6092,4905,4482,6094,6093,6091,4355],"podcast_series":[8169],"cwp_profile":[3051],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-304214","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-growing-in-your-faith","category-reaching-out","tag-be-anxious-for-nothing","tag-culture","tag-god-is-in-control","tag-jesus-is-our-foundation","tag-jesus-is-our-rock","tag-stability-of-our-times","tag-teaching-your-children","podcast_series-unshaken-he-is-the-stability-of-our-times","cwp_profile-dennis-and-barbara-rainey","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/304214\/teaching-your-kids-to-handle-loss","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/304214\/teaching-your-kids-to-handle-loss","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"GPtbjWbnSZ\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/teaching-your-kids-to-handle-loss\/\">Teaching Your Kids to Handle Loss<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/teaching-your-kids-to-handle-loss\/embed\/#?secret=GPtbjWbnSZ\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Teaching Your Kids to Handle Loss&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"GPtbjWbnSZ\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Here\u2019s Barbara Rainey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I think that that\u2019s our call as parents\u2014is to model a relationship with Jesus Christ that\u2019s authentic, and strong, and rooted in the Rock. That\u2019s what our kids will notice, and they will follow that. That\u2019s what we want\u2014we want our children to grow a faith too, but we have to remember that we are modeling that in what we say and in what we do because our kids are paying attention. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, October 18<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. In times of instability, are you modeling for your children what it looks like to walk by faith and be full of courage?\u00a0 We\u2019ll talk more about that today. Stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Tuesday edition. I have some counsel for those who might be trying to decide on a church home. If you should show up at a local church and the worship pastor says, \u201cLet\u2019s sing the great hymn, <em>A Mighty Fortress Is Our God<\/em>, and let\u2019s sing verses one, two, and four,\u201d you should leave that church immediately; and you should never consider joining that church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Now, there are some hymns\u2014first of all, I just\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>The one, two, and four\u2014counsel of Bob Lepine. [Laughter] You heard it first here on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There are some hymns where it\u2019s fine to skip a verse if you want to; okay?\u00a0 I don\u2019t prefer it\u2014I like to sing all of the verses of all of the hymns\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I do too. I agree\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014but I\u2019m also aware that Charles Wesley did write some hymns that had 20 verses to them. So, I get narrowing it down to the best ones. But when it comes to Martin Luther\u2019s <em>A Mighty Fortress Is Our God<\/em>, this is based on Psalm 46. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can\u2019t go from verse two to verse four without skipping a big, important part in the middle.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>A big chunk of Psalm 46. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Exactly right. And Psalm 46 is that Psalm that says, \u201cGod is our Rock, our fortress, our ever present help in time of need.\u201d\u00a0 I was thinking about the hymn and thinking about that Psalm\u2014with what we\u2019ve been talking about this week\u2014because a fortress is a place that you go into to feel safe from an enemy that might be attacking you. And there are times in our culture today, where we look around and go, \u201cIt feels like I need a fortress just to rest for a little bit.\u201d\u00a0 <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And fortunately, I\u2019m married to a great woman who recognizes that, not only do we need a fortress\u2014and reminds me of that in our marriage \/ in our family\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014but also pinned both Bob and me underneath her foot and said, \u201cI\u2019ve got to go into the studio and share with our listeners the need for stability today.\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]<br><br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Let me just say\u2014it was not a hostile takeover. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It wasn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We were very happy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Thank you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Semi\u2014semi-hostile. [Laughter]\u00a0 But she is all about a new plaque that she has developed. Interestingly, when she created it, she said, \u201cYou know, we haven\u2019t even talked about it on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, and these things are flying out of the warehouse,\u201d \u2014it is Isaiah 33:6: \u201cAnd He shall be the stability of your times.\u201d\u00a0 Share why you have created this, Sweetheart. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Well, I think everyone is aware that we live in a very uncertain world, and it\u2019s not just in America; but it\u2019s all around the world. People are feeling the sand underneath their feet shifting, and people don\u2019t know quite what to do with economic changes. They don\u2019t know what to do with political changes. They don\u2019t know how to respond to changes in their family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLife is an uncertain adventure. And when uncertainty comes or when instability is felt, we need to know what to do\u2014we need to know how to respond and what to do next. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe idea of putting this verse on a plaque\u2014in a really pretty frame too\u2014is so that we can be reminded every day in our homes that Jesus is our stability: He is the One who never changes; He is the One who is the Rock; He is the One who is our fortress. So, no matter what\u2019s happening personally or no matter what\u2019s happening in our world around us, He will never change; and that\u2019s what gives me my security. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Uncertain adventures demand leadership. What Barbara\u2019s talking about demands leadership of men and women in all walks of life\u2014whether you live in an apartment, inner city, suburban America, smaller towns across the country. These are days when individual followers of Christ need to know who they are and why they are here. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBarbara and I were talking about just the whole need for leadership in the family in the midst of uncertain times. I was reminded of a story that I told in my book, <em>Stepping Up<\/em>. It\u2019s a story about Sir Ernest Shackleton who, at the age of 40, recruited men to go with him to the South Pole, the Antarctic. He took 27 men on December 5, 1914. After 45 days at sea, ran into what was called heavy pack ice that trapped his ship in the pack ice and they couldn\u2019t get loose. They tried for three weeks\u2014couldn\u2019t get out of the pack ice. I want to read you what leadership sounds like in uncertain times. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis was written by the ship surgeon, Alexander Macklin, in his diary. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe said this about Shackleton: \u201cShackleton, at this time, showed one of his sparks of real greatness. He did not rage at all or show outwardly the slightest sign of disappointment. He told us simply and calmly that we must winter in the pack, explained its dangers and possibilities, never lost his optimism, and prepared for winter.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>I think that\u2019s a picture, Bob, of the family today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Do you think we are headed into a long winter season where\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think we are in the winter\u2014I feel it. We\u2019re no longer the majority \/ no longer feel welcome, necessarily, in the market place with our opinions as we have in the past. So, therefore, what are we going to do?\u00a0 How are we going to view ourselves in the midst of this?\u00a0 I think we were put here for such a time as this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Let me just recite through, if I can, the lyrics to <em>A Mighty Fortress<\/em> because I think it\u2019s instructive\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014in the day in which we live. Here\u2019s Luther, who was living in a turbulent time, and he wrote: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>A mighty fortress is our God, a bulwark never failing; <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Our helper He, amid the flood of mortal ills prevailing<\/em>:\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNo matter what\u2019s going on, God is going to prevail above that flood of mortal ills.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>For still our ancient foe<\/em>\u2014and that\u2019s the devil\u2014<em>doth seek to work us woe; <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>His craft and power are great, and armed with cruel hate, <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>On earth, is not his equal. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou get there, and that\u2019s kind of depressing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>That\u2019s why you\u2019ve got to sing the rest of the hymn. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Did we in our own strength confide, our striving would be losing;<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn other words, if we thought, \u201cI\u2019ll take care of this,\u201d\u2014<em>our striving would be losing; <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Were not the right man on our side, the man of God\u2019s own choosing: <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Dost ask who that may be?<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em><em>Christ Jesus, it is He;<\/em><em>\u00a0 <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Lord Sabaoth His name, from age to age the same,<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>And He must win the battle. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, you don\u2019t fight this on your own; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>And though this world, with devils filled, should threaten to undo us, <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>We will not fear, for God hath willed His truth to triumph through us:<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>The Prince of Darkness grim, we tremble not for him;<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>His rage we can endure, for lo, his doom is sure,<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>One little word\u2014<\/em>I love that<em>\u2014One little word\u2014<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I know. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014<em>shall fell him<\/em>. And what\u2019s the word?\u00a0 Well\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>That word above all earthly powers, no thanks to them, abideth; <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>The Spirit and the gifts are ours through Him who with us sideth: <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, it says\u2014you come to the end here.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>Let goods and kindred go<\/em>,\u2014don\u2019t hang onto your stuff. Don\u2019t even hang onto people if they\u2019re keeping you from Him; right?\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014<em>this mortal life also<\/em>; \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Death to self. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>The body they may kill: God\u2019s truth abideth still; <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>His kingdom is forever. <\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, I get chills just reading it. When I\u2019m in unstable times\u2014when I\u2019m thinking, \u201cOkay; where do you find help and hope?\u2014Psalm 46 \/ that\u2019s the Psalm that this was built around\u2014that hymn is a <em>great<\/em> reminder of where our stability \/ where our anchor is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s a great reminder that, throughout the ages, what has been the Rock for Christians in the past is the Rock for us today. And that Rock is Jesus Christ. Luther taught us in that hymn that that is where our dependence needs to be\u2014not on people\u2014but only on God and on His Word. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>How do we help kids get a sense of that\u2014not just get it up here \/ just in their heads\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014but how do we teach our kids how to be anxious for nothing and how not to fear?\u00a0 What do we do?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>We have\u2014as moms and dads, we have to have lots of conversations with our kids about these things because they are going to encounter difficulties in school, and with neighborhood kids, and in their life as they grow up, regardless of what\u2019s happening in the world around them. Jesus said, \u201cIn this world, you will have trouble.\u201d\u00a0 And moms and dads who aren\u2019t teaching their children how to handle trouble are setting their kids up for great disappointment, because those kids are going to trust in their circumstances and not trust in Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I just want to insert here\u2014Barbara and I give each other permission to be sad about circumstances \/ to be <em>grieved<\/em> about what\u2019s happening\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014to spill out, maybe, discouragement around what we\u2019re seeing, as individuals, both in our marriage but also in our family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think something that\u2019s really healthy here is to give your kids permission to articulate what they\u2019re feeling and experiencing, too, because it\u2019s <em>real<\/em>. If the family is a safe place for kids to go: \u201cYou know, I\u2019m kind of scared. This is kind of unsettling to me as a boy,\u201d\u2014I think those are great moments in that young man\u2019s life or a young lady\u2019s life, where you can come in and say: \u201cThanks for sharing that. Loss is real.\u201d\u00a0 We need to talk about how we are grieving certain losses in our lives, but we need to move from that loss back to stability and how God is our refuge. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>During times of war or conflict, kids can often be afraid, wondering how close the war is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014to where they live. And in some cases, there\u2019s reason to be alert to danger; but there is a difference between being alert to danger and being full of fear; isn\u2019t there?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Yes, and being overtaken by it. I think that\u2019s the job of parents\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014is to listen to your kids\u2019 fears, talk to them about them, pray with them, hug them, love them, comfort them, and try to help correct the situations that they find themselves in. Parents are supposed to be protectors. We\u2019re supposed to take care of our kids, but there will come points in which Mom and Dad can\u2019t fix everything. And even in the midst of the things that we can, the hope is always to point our children back to Jesus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd it reminds me of a story that I read, probably, 20 years ago. I read a little tiny piece of an article that was about the Armenian genocide that happened in the early 1900s\u20141914 and \u201815. It was the story of what one mother said to her daughters in the midst of that. I\u2014just a few years ago, I found the book that was written by this same family that told the details of that story. I felt like\u2014when I ordered it, and found it, and it came in the mail, I felt like I had this treasure chest of pearls. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt just felt like this exquisite gift that I had just gotten. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt was a used copy \/ paperback copy of this book, but it was written by the woman who was the little girl at the time. She tells the story of how her family was a Christian family. They had great friendships in their community, and they did things together. She grew up singing all these Christian songs and playing safely in their backyard, climbing trees, and doing all the things that normal children do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>And then, one day\u2014she was about 11\u2014and World War I broke out. When the war began, things changed in their country.\u00a0 Armenia is a portion of the country of Turkey. The political and governmental climate in the country of Turkey changed dramatically. All of a sudden, her Christian family was not safe anymore. Her mom and dad were not safe anymore, and neither were the other Christian families that they were friends with either. Her parents were talking to her and her little sister. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey were also preparing them that: \u201cThis might not turn out well for us; but no matter what, we\u2019re going to believe in Jesus. I want you to remember that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne day, the soldiers came to the village. Soldiers arrested her father and took him away. She watched\u2014as the oldest of the two children, she watched where they took her dad. She ran over there later in the evening and found where he was. He had been beaten badly, and he was tied up and chained. She got down on the ground and put her little head next to his and started talking to him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>This is what her daddy said to her\u2014he said: \u201cElizabeth, never give up Christ no matter how much suffering might come. Christ died for us, and we can be as brave as His name.\u201d\u00a0 That was the last time she ever saw her father. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was so struck by the fact that that father had the presence of mind to tell his little girl\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014whom he wanted to protect, whom he wanted to rescue, whom he wanted to save from all that was coming, and he couldn\u2019t do it. So, he did the next best thing\u2014really, the very best thing\u2014but he put her hand in the hand of Jesus. He took her heart and turned it toward God who was over all. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen, the story goes on to say that not long after\u2014I can\u2019t remember now if it was months or a year later\u2014she, and her little sister, and her mother were rounded up again by the soldiers. They were all shipped off to another part of the country. There, they\u2014all three of them\u2014began to work for different families as a way to survive and a way to hopefully endure throughout the war. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne day, her mother managed to get away. She found Elizabeth, who was still 11 or, maybe, 12 by then at the time. She said: \u201cMy time of suffering has come. Tomorrow, they are taking everyone who does not renounce Christ and claim allegiance to Mohammed\u2014they are taking all of us away.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd this is what she said\u2014so, the mother, now, had her moment with her daughter. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe said, \u201cI cannot give up Christ no matter how much you girls will need me.\u201d\u00a0 When I read that, as a mom, it just broke my heart; because the last thing a mom wants to do is to let her kids be taken \/ to let her kids suffer. We would rather be killed than watch our children suffer. Yet, she clung to Christ. She said, \u201cI cannot give up Christ no matter how much you girls will need me.\u201d\u00a0 She said, \u201cI cannot give Him up. I <em>know<\/em> that He will watch over both of you.\u201d\u00a0 \u201cAfter crying together,\u201d\u2014Elizabeth writes\u2014\u201cmy mother ran back to her Turkish home. The next day, the soldiers came and took all the adults and marched them away into exile, and they all died.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, now, Elizabeth is an orphan\u2014she and her sister. The rest of the book goes on to tell how God did, indeed, rescue the two of them and kept them safe through the end of the war. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAt the end of the war, they were able to immigrate to the United States, and they both lived normal lives from then on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>I just couldn\u2019t get over the depth of faith of these two parents\u2014of this mom and this dad\u2014who, when they wanted with every fiber of their being to take care of their two precious girls that they loved dearly, clung to Christ and trusted that God was big enough to take care of them. I wondered, when I read that 20 years ago\u2014I thought: \u201cCould I do that?\u00a0 Could I trust God with my children?\u201d\u00a0 And yet, it\u2019s the question that I think all parents have to look to\u2014we all have to answer that question: \u201cIs God big enough to take care of my children?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs we look at the uncertain times that we\u2019re living in\u2014it\u2019s nothing like that\u2014but we <em>feel<\/em> that same anxiety. We <em>feel<\/em> that same instability. We feel that same fear, and the answer is still the same: \u201cJesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. He is still on His throne. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cHe can still be trusted. He can still take care of us.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s the message we need to teach our children so that they will grow up and they will be able to do the same\u2014they will be able to put their faith in Christ and trust in Him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You tell that story that you\u2019ve shared with us today in a book you wrote, <em>Growing Together in Truth<\/em>. It\u2019s a collection of stories designed to be read, as a family, to help encourage and strengthen faith. I think the main thing\u2014as I heard you telling the story\u2014the main thing that came home to me is: \u201cIf our kids are anxious and fearful, they are probably picking it up from us. And if our kids are going to be full of faith\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>They are picking it up from us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>They really do take their cues\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014from how they see us responding to human events. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>And that\u2019s what is so <em>stunning<\/em> to me about this story\u2014is that this mother and this father portrayed a <em>really<\/em> strong faith to those girls, and those girls picked up on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I think that that\u2019s the real question for moms and dads: \u201cDo you really believe that God is big enough, and will you grow your faith so that you can pass on that kind of faith to your children?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>As Barbara was reading that story, I thought: \u201cAs parents, we have two assignments. One, we are to be spiritual commentators on the times. A commentator is providing context for what is taking place. As a parent, we need to be providing spiritual commentary. We need to be talking about it from the Bible\u2014looking at life \/ talking about: \u2018What\u2019s happening here?\u00a0 What\u2019s going on?\u2019\u00a0 These are days that are ripe with opportunity. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cA second aspect of being a parent, that we dare not miss is\u2014parents are to be spiritual priests. They are to direct faith. They are not to be ashamed of what they believe. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cAs you just said, Bob, they need to have a faith \/ be living it out, but directing their children at knowing how to process this.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn a time of crisis like this father was facing, as he was dying, he was just doing what he had always done naturally. He was placing his faith in Christ. As he took his daughter\u2019s hand and put it in the hand of Christ\u2014as you said, Barbara\u2014he was just doing what he\u2019d always done with his little girl. In a time of crisis, you don\u2019t do something extraordinary if you haven\u2019t been doing it before. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Barbara: <\/strong>And he was modeling for her what authentic faith looks like. I think that that\u2019s our call as parents\u2014is to model a relationship with Jesus Christ that\u2019s authentic, and strong, and rooted in the Rock. That\u2019s what our kids will notice, and they will follow that. That\u2019s what we want. We want our children to grow a faith, too; but we have to remember that we are modeling that in what we say and in what we do, because our kids are paying attention. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I know you have been involved in helping to put together the devotions that we have created\u2014a series of ten devotions for families to read through \/ interact around\u2014all related to this issue of how we cultivate stability in our lives \/ where our security comes from. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you\u2019ve got the FamilyLife app on your smartphone or your device, you can pull it up and hit where it says, \u201cHelp and Hope.\u201d You can get these ten devotions available so you can use them with your family at a meal time\u2014or just together as a couple\u2014go through these devotions. If you don\u2019t have the FamilyLife app, it\u2019s available from your app store. Just look for it and download it so that you have access to more of our content and access to this daily radio program as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can also download the ten devotions when you go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com; and that\u2019s where you can see the Isaiah 33:6 stability plaque that Barbara has created that is available for order. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou can order it online so it can hang in your home, or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order the plaque. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; and our toll-free number to order is 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, our goal, here at FamilyLife, is to see every home become a godly home. We think that ultimately the solution for what ails us, as a nation \/ in our world, is that there would be a return to a biblical understanding of what it means to live in harmony in your home. It starts with your marriage; and then, it continues as you raise children who know and love Christ. The mission of this ministry is to effectively develop godly marriages and families who change the world one home at a time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn a very real sense, when you invest in the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, the funds that you\u2019re entrusting to us are being used to help grow stronger, healthier, more biblically-anchored marriages and families. We just want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those of you who partner with us in this endeavor. You\u2019re helping cover the cost of producing and syndicating this radio program, articles that are being written and distributed online, our events, and our resources. It\u2019s all because folks, like you, care about marriages and families in our country and in our world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>If you are able to help with a donation today, we\u2019d love to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a banner that reminds you that your home is an embassy for the kingdom of heaven. It\u2019s a banner Barbara has created. You can request yours when you make a donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> online at FamilyLifeToday.com; or when you call 1-800-FL-TODAY and donate over the phone; or you can request the banner and mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we want to talk more about how we can cultivate in our own heart a sense of peace and a sense of stability even when the 24-hour news channels are telling us that our world is in trouble and that there is no hope. We\u2019ll talk more about that tomorrow. I hope you can be with us for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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