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God is so much bigger than we can imagine, but we can learn about His character by studying His Word.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2016-10-14.pdf","transcript_content":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We know that God is both loving and all-powerful. The question arises: \u201cIf that\u2019s true, how come there is suffering in our lives and in our world?\u201d Here\u2019s how Jen Wilkin tackles that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> Usually, that question is not asked lightly \/ someone has had a terrible thing happen\u2014so, to be able to look back on that terrible thing and say: \u201cWhat if I\u2019m not able to make sense of it in the time the Lord gives me? But what if it makes sense in the life of my great-grandchild or the life of my great-great-grandchild? Would that be enough for me? Could I trust <em>that<\/em> God?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, October 14<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. There may be things about God that are hard for us to understand, but there\u2019s a <em>lot<\/em> that we can and should know about who God is. We\u2019ll spend time talking about that today. Stay tuned.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We\u2019re going to talk about some of the \u201comnis\u201d of God today. You know the \u201comnis?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Omnipresent, omniscient [pronounced it \u201comni-see-ant\u201d]. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Omniscient [pronounced \u00e4m\u02c8niSH\u0259nt]\u2014omniscient?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I like to call it \u201comni-see-ant,\u201d just so I can remember the \u201comnis.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Just making sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Omniscient [omni-see-ant], omnipotent [pronounced it \u201comni-p\u00ad\u014dtent\u201d). That\u2019s the other way you can say it! See, it\u2019s \u201comni-p\u014dtent\u201d; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; but I just want to ask our guest, because she wrote the book that\u2019s about the attributes of God \/ the character of God. Jen Wilkin joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>The book is <em>None Like Him<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf all the attributes of God, do you have a favorite? Do you have one that you go, \u201cFor whatever reason, I\u2019m attracted to God because of this attribute\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> I like His omnipresence. I think His omnipresence is the one that I like the most, because I feel like it is the one that helps me both feel comfort and also the right sense of tension; because I like knowing that He sees <em>everything<\/em>. Out of that flows the idea that He can be the just judge, because He\u2019s the ultimate eyewitness; right? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe\u2019s <em>never<\/em> going to judge wrongly any case, because He has <em>all<\/em> the evidence. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt matters to me that He sees, both because of the comfort of knowing, \u201cI can\u2019t be misdiagnosed, or misunderstood, or misjudged\u201d\u2014but also\u2014that He sees reminds me that there\u2019s no such thing as a secret from Him and that there\u2019s no secret sin and no secret thoughts. That helps me to strive for holiness.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Bob, what about you? Do you have a favorite?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I hadn\u2019t even stopped to think about which of the attributes of God\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, since you don\u2019t have one yet, I\u2019ll do one\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014because I want to pick the one that you\u2019d likely have picked\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014sovereign.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You know, I was just going to [Laughter] zero in on the sovereignty of God!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I mean \/ you know, if you look at who God is\u2014and you know He\u2019s in charge and He has all authority\u2014He not only knows what\u2019s going on \/ sees what\u2019s going on\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014but He is ruling in righteous, just, loving, merciful ways that we do not understand. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m just sitting here thinking: \u201cWe\u2019ve been talking about these attributes of God this week because we think it\u2019s an important subject for all of us\u2014moms, dads, husbands, wives\u2014all of us to understand who it is that we worship.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou [Dennis] heard messages about the attributes of God. This was one of the favorite themes of one of your mentors; wasn\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; Bill Bright used to talk about who God is. He <em>constantly<\/em> talked about understanding who God is. If you do, you\u2019re going to be able to find yourself yielding to Him, following Him, loving Him, and getting your life from Him; whereas, if you don\u2019t know who God is, frankly, you don\u2019t have a good evaluation of who you are. That\u2019s really the basis of your book; is it not, Jen?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. There is no true self-knowledge apart from true God-knowledge.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And I think my understanding of who God is came about at a time when I was confronted with a different understanding of who I was. I had a guy who pulled me aside after a Bible study\u2014this was my junior year in college\u2014and he said: \u201cCould I meet with you? I\u2019ve got some questions for you.\u201d In my pride and arrogance, I thought, \u201cI wonder what he needs me to explain to him?\u201d [Laughter] Now, why are you laughing at that?! It was a completely rational conclusion! [Laughter] Okay! So I went over to his house, and we sat down. He said, \u201cThe reason I asked you over is because I don\u2019t think you get it.\u201d He opened the Bible to Romans, Chapter 3. He said, \u201cI want you to read there at about verse 9 or 10.\u201d And I remember looking at it. He said, \u201cRead it out loud.\u201d \u201cThere is none righteous; no, not one. Nobody seeks after God.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s a long description of the depraved nature of man. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, my understanding of myself up until that moment in time [Laughter]: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI\u2019m a good guy. I\u2019m glad that the few things I\u2019ve done that need some kind of payment for\u2014I\u2019m glad Jesus paid for that, but I\u2019m a good guy! I\u2019m a franchise player on the team!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> Yes! You\u2019ve got it!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And when you think that way about yourself\u2014that influences how you think about God. God is much \u201cless than\u201d if you think you\u2019re \u201call that.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> Well, and I think that\u2019s the mistake we make. We hold, in one hand, sort of a rudimentary understanding of what it means that God is\u2014for example, your favorite\u2014sovereign; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> We think: \u201cYes, I get it. God\u2019s in control. That\u2019s great!\u201d But then, in our operating mode, what we\u2019re really doing is making ourselves sovereign\u2014so I think that: \u201cIf I pray a certain way, I can get God to do what I want,\u201d or I think: \u201cIf I live a certain way, I can get God to do what I want.\u201d You know, in your case, Bob, you\u2019re like, \u201cWell, I\u2019m righteous <em>enough<\/em>.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe can believe that about ourselves until we understand the <em>infinite<\/em> righteousness that is God\u2019s and the perfect righteousness that would be required of us to be in His presence. I think that we sort of sometimes nod our heads toward the attributes, but we don\u2019t meditate on them to the point that we see our own idolatry play out as we\u2019ve tried to take them on in ways that are not okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well, I have to tell you\u2014I left that guy\u2019s apartment that day, not only with a better understanding with the reality of the depth of my own rebellion \/ my own sin, but what the Bible said about me was all of a sudden more true than what I believed about myself. But I also left that day with an understanding that God is much bigger than I had imagined God to be. That was the paradigm shift \/ the spiritual paradigm shift in my life that put me on a whole new path.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right. And I think, as parents, we forget that our assignment is to teach our kids these lessons before they leave our homes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have a responsibility to introduce them to who God is and who they are not\u2014they\u2019re not the center of the universe. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow did you pass on, for instance, the sovereignty of God, to your children? How did you introduce them to a God, who is ruling with absolute authority?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> I think that the tendency for parents to do is to think, \u201cI can just be sovereign in my child\u2019s life.\u201d Think about how many parents devote a lot of time to creating the myth of their omniscience with their children. [Laughter] You know: \u201cI have eyes in the back of my head! I see everything that you do!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cI will know! If you mess up, I will know!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> Yes. How about: \u201cI\u2019m omnipotent. Whatever you do wrong, there will be\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cconsequences!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cconsequences,\u201d and all of that. It\u2019s the nature\u2014and so then, of course, the whole thing with sovereignty is: \u201cI totally control your destiny.\u201d I mean, that\u2019s what a lot of parents bring to the table as well. So, again, I think that, as children grow, they begin to see the gaps in that and in how you respond to that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow there is, certainly, a place for a parent to exercise a great deal of omniscience around a toddler; right? You\u2019re trying to keep them alive through the day. But, as they get older, the natural process of parenting is that you are withdrawing physical control over your children and trying to build into them an internal control \/ not an external control.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe tried to just start talking to our children, as they were getting older\u2014and saying\u2014sort of placing responsibility for their actions back on them: \u201cIt\u2019s not <em>my job<\/em> to keep you from sinning. You have the Holy Spirit in you,\u201d\u2014you know, speaking to a believing child\u2014\u201cI know the Holy Spirit is operating in conjunction with your conscience. What is your conscience telling you?\u201d Getting them to verbally acknowledge what it is that is going on inside of them, and to own their behaviors. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe idea of God\u2019s sovereignty is hard to understand, because it\u2019s an abstract concept that\u2019s hard for an <em>adult<\/em> to understand. I think the best way to get to it is to sort of show them what you are not: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cI am <em>not<\/em> sovereign over you. You are self-governing as far as you are aware, but there is a God to whom you owe your obedience. The reason you obey me is because I am praying that the Holy Spirit will draw your heart into a place where you obey God. All obedience to me is ultimately obedience to God.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Years ago, we had Larry Crabb as a guest on <em>FamilyLife Today. <\/em>He talked about the home he grew up in and the death of his grandfather. I\u2019ve never forgotten this story. He said he was a little child when his grandfather was dying in their home. I think he was six or seven, and he went into the room where his grandfather was dying, and where people were standing around. He was tugging on a sleeve and was trying to ask\u2014I think his own dad\u2014a question. His dad looked at him and said [soft voice]: \u201cLarry, shh. God is at work.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, here they were in the moment of the passing of a grandfather, and in that moment, what Larry\u2019s dad communicated to him is: \u201cThis is not a moment when God has left the throne \/ where God has turned the other way and we\u2019re about to lose your grandfather because God\u2019s not here. In the midst of what is a tragedy for all of us, God\u2019s here \/ He is at work\u2014He\u2019s sovereign; He\u2019s in control; He\u2019s at work in this moment.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s a powerful statement, especially to a child, I think, to recognize\u2014in those times when the sun is out and those times when the rain is pouring\u2014\u201cGod\u2019s there. He\u2019s at work, and He knows what He\u2019s doing.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019re talking to Jen Wilkin, who has written a book about the attributes of God called <em>None Like Him.<\/em> I mentioned that we were going to talk about these \u201comnis\u201d of God---\u201comni\u201d meaning He\u2019s all\u2014all-powerful, all-knowing, and ever-present. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, you reference Psalm 139 as you write about this, where the psalmist says, \u201cWhere can I go from Your presence?\u201d At one level, there\u2019s comfort in that; but there\u2019s another level, where knowing that God is omni-present, can strike fear in your heart; can\u2019t it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> Absolutely! I think, particularly\u2014you know, for those who have not dealt with their guilt and shame \/ who have not run to the cross for forgiveness\u2014that\u2019s a pretty terrifying thought\u2014that God is everywhere \/ fully present\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> \u2014because what the unbeliever wants more than anything else is to be away from the presence of God. To hear that God is everywhere \/ fully present is terrifying. It sounds\u2014to the unbeliever, who doesn\u2019t have an enlightened heart\u2014sounds like a creepy, stalkerish-kind of God. But to you and me, who know the joy and comfort of that, we understand it as the greatest comfort we could have\u2014to know that He is near.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I was thinking of, Dennis, what you were saying about our children watching us and wanting to train them in these things. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we\u2019re in a crisis \/ when something goes terribly, our feelings are going to lie to us. They\u2019re going to tell us that God is far. That\u2019s why it\u2019s important, in those moments, particularly in front of our children, to bear witness to: \u201cEven though I don\u2019t feel this right now, my faith is not grounded in feeling. It\u2019s grounded in the fact of who the Bible says God is, and it says that God is near. So even though I feel like He is far, we can know that He is fully present in the midst of this.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tChildren draw a lot of comfort from those kinds of things, as they should. I think one of the ways we <em>can<\/em> talk to them about the attributes is the way that Jesus spoke to us about our heavenly Father, with a \u201chow much more\u201d kind of an argument, you know? So: \u201cThis is what it\u2019s like for me, as your parent, to keep watch over you while you\u2019re asleep at night. How much more our heavenly Father, who is everywhere and fully present? I can\u2019t be with you all the time. Wouldn\u2019t you like that?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, of course, a five-year-old thinks that would be awesome. A fourteen-year-old is like, \u201cPlease go away!\u201d [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> But when our children are small, and they\u2014you know, they relish and take comfort in our nearness\u2014to talk about the nearness of a heavenly Father, who is infinitely more capable of being near to us, even when we\u2019re not aware of it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I just want to go back, briefly, to what you said about demonstrating faith in front of your kids when you don\u2019t feel like it. I just want to clarify something you said: \u201cGo ahead and admit it to your kids. Tell them that your feelings are <em>denying<\/em> that God is near, that God does know what He\u2019s doing, and that God is sovereign. Let them in on some of those voices that are crying out to you to not believe, because they\u2019re going to hear them!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You\u2019re struggling\u2014let them know you\u2019re struggling.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And let them know that is the <em>normal<\/em> Christian life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt is how we defeat unbelief, and how we ultimately move from not believing in doubt to moving in faith, and embracing God, and saying: \u201cOkay; God, I\u2019m going to trust You. I don\u2019t know how this is going to work out.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Let them enter into those moments with you. You may say: \u201cGosh! This is pretty\u2014this is a gamble I\u2019m taking here. The kids are going to be watching!\u201d Yes! That\u2019s the idea of what it means today, in this culture, to be living out a faith based on the Bible. You\u2019re going to be faced with some issues where you\u2019re going to have to listen to the right voice today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So I want to ask you about\u2014and it\u2019s a big theological term\u2014called the <em>theodicy.<\/em> You know that term. It\u2019s the whole issue of, \u201cIf the \u2018omnis\u2019 about God are true\u2014if He is all-knowing, all-loving, and all-powerful\u2014why does bad stuff happen?\u201d So we hear a story about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Our guest is smiling, Bob! She\u2019s thinking, \u201cI knew it was just a matter of time!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> She\u2019s saying, \u201cYou threw this ball my way?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> I\u2019m thinking about whacking you with my shoe! [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Bob! You [Jen] came back\u2014you\u2019ve been on our show before\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> Oh, my gosh!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is the real life stuff that\u2014if these attributes\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> You made me cry, and now you\u2019re going to beat me up? Is that what this is? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> If God is all-loving, He\u2019s all-knowing, He\u2019s all-powerful, He could have prevented a tragedy that we look at\u2014a family dies in a car wreck \/ we hear a story about a teenaged-girl, who is abused by her father or raped and left for dead\u2014and we think to ourselves, \u201cHow could an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-loving God, who is ever-present, allow that to happen?\u201d Where do you go when those kinds of realities hit, and you\u2019ve got to make some sense of them?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> I think first and foremost, I want to <em>firmly<\/em> acknowledge the depth and the pervasiveness of human brokenness. It is on a scale and of a magnitude that is so hard for us to process. The hurts that we feel are real, and deep, and devastating.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think, when we\u2019re faced with that question of, \u201cHe could have stopped it, and He didn\u2019t,\u201d we have to, again\u2014and it\u2019s one of the reasons I like learning about who He is\u2014because we have to turn again and recognize that I am limited in my ability to understand. God holds <em>all <\/em>of the facts. I mean, if I were to draw a circle on this table and say: \u201cThese are all of the facts. Now, make a mark that represents how many of the facts you contain in your head right now, Bob Lepine,\u201d you would probably be hesitant to even put a little dot on there\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> \u2014because there\u2019s so much\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No, no!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> And that\u2019s not even a dig at you\u2014although at this point, I\u2019d like to make one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Dennis is thinking I\u2019d put\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019d be astounded how much\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014the arrogance! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014not arrogance\u2014you just have a big chunk!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> Let\u2019s shoot high. Let\u2019s say that I draw a circle that is 12 inches wide, and ask you to circle how much you know within that circle. Let\u2019s say you draw a circle that\u2019s six inches wide. Within the remaining area that\u2019s there, there could very easily be other reasons\/facts that would make <em>sense<\/em> of what is going on right now.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re limited in what we know and because we\u2019re not eternal; right? We have an alpha and an omega that we live in between. What does Ecclesiastes say? It says, \u201cGod has placed eternity in the hearts of man, but man is not able to fathom or measure what God has done from the beginning to the end.\u201d We\u2019re not even able to process\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> \u2014or make sense of what happens during the 70 or 80 years that we are given. I think some of it, for us, is that we live in a culture where we have a lot of neatly tied ribbons around TV episodes or radio segments\u2014whatever it is. We want closure within our lifetime. We understand, maybe, that God is going to make sense of it all; but we would like for Him to do that while we\u2019re watching. To say that we trust Him, whatever the tragedy\u2014usually that question is not asked lightly \/ someone has had a terrible thing happen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo to be able to look back on that terrible thing and say: \u201cWhat if I\u2019m not able to make sense of it in the time the Lord gives me? But what if it makes sense in the life of my great-grandchild or my great-great-grandchild? Would that be enough for me? Could I trust <em>that <\/em>God?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think a lot of our fears around this\u2014you know, question of theodicy\u2014have to do with our limited ability to comprehend the infinite.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I have a friend, who used to say it this way\u2014and it was helpful for me\u2014he said, \u201cIf we could see everything God can see, and if we knew everything God knows, we would do what God does.\u201d But the fact that we look at things God does and we go, \u201cI wouldn\u2019t do that.\u201d Of course, you wouldn\u2019t; because you don\u2019t know everything God knows.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jen:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You don\u2019t see everything God sees. So, with your limited sight \/ your limited knowledge, you\u2019d make a different choice. But if you knew the whole story, you\u2019d go, \u201cWell, that makes perfect sense.\u201d Maybe, one day we\u2019ll know more of the story than we know today; and we\u2019ll say, \u201cWell, of course, God!!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we\u2019ll bow in worship, because we understand better what we didn\u2019t understand in this life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> When the attack occurred in New York City and they took down the Twin Towers, I remember watching the television reports and being struck with absolute sheer terror. There was a lot of fear in America. In the midst of all of that, on the marquis of fast food restaurants \/ out in front of service stations, there was a statement of: \u201cPray,\u201d \u201cAsk God for help,\u201d \u201cAsk God for protection.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThese attributes that we\u2019re talking about here are not mere intellectual exercises or just filling our minds with truth about God. They really do come down to shoe leather and how we live out our lives when we do face tough news, or we\u2019re watching something in our country that doesn\u2019t make sense, or some evil that\u2019s occurring in a foreign place.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI went to a movie the other night, and I saw something happen in that movie that just made me mad and angry at evil guys \/ evil terrorists, who are taking the lives of children and their parents. They\u2019re destroying human lives. It\u2019s like, if I did not have the Bible to fall back on and to know the rest of the story\u2014that there is <em>the <\/em>God\u2014the Almighty God, the One who is all-powerful, the One who is sovereign-ly ruling\u2014I don\u2019t know how I\u2019d be able to go to sleep at night. I think you\u2019d have to move to some form of denial.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tUltimately, the God of the Bible is the One who shows up in our lives; and He demands our absolute trust and belief. He\u2019s the One who can rescue us when we have uncertain news in our lives or our nation does! There\u2019s a lot of fear in America right now around a lot of different issues. We need to go back to the Bible and to trust the God of the Bible. I think we also need to dig into books, like what Jen has written here, Bob, and perhaps rediscover or, as we\u2019ve talked about this week, discover who God is and how His attributes apply to your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is a great book\u2014for couples to go through, for small groups to use, for a women\u2019s group, or even a youth group to go through\u2014 and explore the attributes of God. It\u2019s called <em>None Like Him: Ten Ways God Is Different from Us (and Why That\u2019s a Good Thing). <\/em>We have copies in our <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>Resource Center. You can order from us online at FamilyLifeToday.com, or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. The toll-free number is 1-800-358-6329, and the book is called <em>None Like Him<\/em> by Jen Wilkin.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, a shout-out today to a couple living in Demarest, New Jersey, who are celebrating their seventh anniversary\u2014Erich and Ammylou\u2014\u201cHappy anniversary!\u201d to you guys as you celebrate seven years together. I know Erich has hosted one of our <em>Stepping Up<\/em><em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup><\/em> groups for men, and they\u2019ve attended the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cHappy seventh anniversary to you guys!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe think anniversaries matter! We think they\u2019re a big deal\u2014we hope you celebrate well. In fact, we hope you have many more anniversaries to come. Our goal, here at FamilyLife, is to provide for you the kind of practical biblical help and hope you need so that your marriage will thrive, because we want to effectively develop godly marriages and families\u2014the kind of marriages and families who change the world one home at a time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd let me say a word to those of you who make this ministry possible\u2014those of you who provide the financial support so that <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014our resources, our events, our website \/ all of that\u2014is available to couples like Erich and Ammylou. When you make a donation to support <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014that\u2019s whom you\u2019re really supporting\u2014it\u2019s the couples and the families that benefit from this ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you can help us with a donation today, we\u2019d love to send you, as a thank-you gift, a resource that Barbara Rainey has recently created. It\u2019s a banner that declares that your home is an embassy of the kingdom of heaven and that your allegiance belongs, first and foremost, to your King. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to make an online donation, or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to donate over the phone. You can request the banner when you make that donation; or mail your request for the banner, along with your donation, to <em>FamilyLife Today <\/em>at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, this weekend, there are no <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> getaways happening. Next weekend, we\u2019ve got getaways taking place in Parsippany, New Jersey, and in Jacksonville, Florida. Of course, throughout the rest of this fall, getaways are happening in cities all across the country. If you\u2019ve never been to a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>, we\u2019d love to have you join us for an upcoming weekend getaway. Find our more at FamilyLifeToday.com; and remember to pray for the folks in Parsippany and Jacksonville, as they get ready for their weekend getaway next weekend.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you have a great weekend. I hope you and your family are able to worship together this weekend in your local church. I hope you can join us back on Monday when Barbara Rainey will be here to talk about how we find strength and stability when, all around us, it feels like things are disintegrating. We\u2019ll talk about our source of stability coming up on Monday. I hope you can be here for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. 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