{"id":304194,"date":"2016-10-05T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-10-05T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/the-ups-and-downs-of-our-twenties\/"},"modified":"2016-10-05T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2016-10-05T15:00:00","slug":"the-ups-and-downs-of-our-twenties","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/the-ups-and-downs-of-our-twenties\/","title":{"rendered":"The Ups and Downs of Our Twenties"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>guest: Peter and Kelli Worrall | Series: 20 Things We&#8217;d Tell Our 20-Something Selves | The\u00a0twenties can be full of ups and downs. Peter and Kelli Worrall, teachers at Moody Bible Institute, recall their twenties-new jobs, new dreams, and especially, new loves. The Worralls tell how they met and eventually married, despite Peter&#8217;s promise to himself to focus on God rather than girls.  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Kelli Worrall says she sees that happen all of the time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Some of them have these fathers that they admire so deeply, and they want a guy just like their dad. I have to almost talk to them about: \u201cOkay, your dad has had\u2014he\u2019s got 30 years on these young men that you\u2019re looking at! So, absolutely, look at the track record \/ there needs to be that foundation, but you can\u2019t put the pressure on a 22-year-old young man to be where your, you know, 50-something-year-old father is in his spiritual journey.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, October 5<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. It would be nice to have the wisdom of your 50s and the vitality of your 20s come together at the same time, but it doesn\u2019t work that way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re going to pass on some of that older wisdom to some of our younger listeners today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I\u2019m just sitting here thinking back to when I was in my 20s. I thought I knew a lot back when I was in my 20s! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, you think you\u2019ve got life wired together; then you fall in love with a young lady, and you find out what you don\u2019t know. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Then you have kids and you really go to school\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> You really do!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> That is very true.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014at that point. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have a couple of guests with us that I think our listeners are going to really benefit from. They are the authors of a book called <em>20 Things We\u2019d Tell Our Twenty-Something Selves.<\/em> Let me just explain who the authors are\u2014Kelli and Peter Worrall join us on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> Peter, Kelli, welcome.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Thanks for having us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019m glad you\u2019re here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> It\u2019s good to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Good to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They are parents of two. They\u2019ve been married since 1999 and are professors at Moody Bible Institute. You\u2019ve got to tell me the best joke you know about the Moody Bible Institute. It\u2019s a great school, but there has to be some inside joke you\u2019ve heard.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> \u201cMoody Bridal Institute\u201d is the one that comes to mind. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Ahhh.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; that\u2019s a good one!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> And then: \u201cA ring before spring, or your money back.\u201d That\u2019s what they say to all the seniors.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh, really! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I knew there\u2019d be one. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes; that\u2019s a pretty old joke. I think they say that about most Bible schools.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> But, yes; the \u201cMoody Bridal Institute\u201d is pretty common.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, Kelli, explain where you were in your 20s.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You were single.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I was single. I graduated from my undergraduate degree\u2014I went to Cedarville University and graduated\u2014and moved directly to Chicago all by myself\u2014didn\u2019t know a soul in the city, but I got a job there for a Christian publishing company. I arrived in the suburbs of Chicago to edit and write children\u2019s curriculum. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had my own little apartment and got real involved in a church there. I went to seminary. I was doing kind of all the good 20-something Christian girl things, and thought I had things figured out to some degree.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s a big town for\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> It is! It\u2019s a big lonely town\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014for a young lady like you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli: <\/strong>\u2014a big, scary town for a young lady.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; and I\u2019m just wondering\u2014because we just talked about \u201cMoody Bridal Institute\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014you got out of Cedarville without a ring.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I did!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And were you okay with that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I got gipped!! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Were you frustrated by that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I wanted to be married, certainly. As you go through your 20s, and all of your friends are getting married, and you\u2019re the bridesmaid\u2014always the bridesmaid \/ never the bride was kind of\u2014I felt that over the years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t meet Peter until I was 29. So it was the whole decade of my 20s\u2014I was single, and doing life on my own, and wondering if it would ever happen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And, Peter, for you in your 20s?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Well, I would say that I had a very conflicted view on life, because I had a mother who was a Christian and a father who wasn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy father was very much a rock-\u2018n-rolling kind of aggressive personality. My mother was a more passive, standard Christian personality. My 20s would fluctuate between these two personas I was picking up. There were times when I would be a little bit wild\u2014and there were times when I would do things that were really not advisable \/ I would ruin things. And then, there were times when I would try to get it all together and try to follow God fervently. I would be fluctuating back and forth between these two personas that I was developing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You traveled the world in your 20s.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> I did a little bit; yes. Actually, my family were travelers. My cousins lived in Africa for a while. One of my cousins actually sailed, single-handedly, across the Atlantic. This was part of the family conversation. When I was 18, I decided that I wanted to be a missionary of some kind, because missionaries in our church had a sort of elevated status. I think I wanted that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo be honest, it was more about <em>me<\/em> than God\u2014I think, in retrospect. I think I was really quite arrogant at the time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But your faith was an unsettled issue for you during your 20s. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> It was \/ it was; because I would forget about it for periods of time. I would make decisions which really weren\u2019t in line with Christian thinking for long periods of time. Then I would come back to the truth, and then I would want to give everything. So it was either all-on, or it was all-off. It just kept fluctuating back and forth, no matter where I was.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So I want you both to comment on this: \u201cHow were your lives both very similar to 20-somethings today?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And \u201cHow were your lives really different than those who are in their 20s today?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes; one of the things that has happened is\u2014that people in their 20s, more and more, are getting <em>access<\/em> to things. People in their 20s\u201430\/40 years ago\u2014they would have access to the family business \/ they would have access to the local town. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had access to all kinds of possibilities\u2014they\u2019ve only really increased. We\u2019ve got a lot of people going on short-term missions now all over the world. After I went to Pakistan in my 20s, I actually went to Japan after that for three years. I even went to Afghanistan for a month, and then I went back to Pakistan for two years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, for me, it was a series of mission trips for all the wrong reasons. People are doing that even now on shorter, more consumer-oriented mission trips. They go in; they spend some time in a country; they paint a church; then they get really frustrated if they don\u2019t have a lot of play time at the end of it in that exciting country. And then they come home.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo now, there\u2019s more and more access. Another thing would be alienation\u2014that, actually, people are more alienated from each other. We have our little devices, where we connect with each other; but the relationships are with a million people, and they\u2019re an inch deep. That\u2019s different than when I was young, for sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What about you, Kelli?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I think I wanted the same things that 20-somethings nowadays want. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think I wanted intimacy, I wanted relationships, and I wanted to be of significance\u2014to do things that mattered. I think those core desires are still the same, perhaps, of 20-somethings. But I think we, perhaps, like Peter is saying, go about it different ways now\u2014the 20-somethings we see coming through\u2014just because the possibilities are endless for them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I was in my 20s, the internet was just being unveiled. I really didn\u2019t have access to all of that\u2014so that was very different.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The two of you met at the end of your decade of the 20s.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> We did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> For young people today, the average age that people are getting married\u2014the average young man is 29 \/ the young woman is 27 or 28.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In your day, that was kind of on the older end of the spectrum.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tell us about how you met and how the two of you came to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Well, we met at Moody Bible Institute in the fall of 1998. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI arrived on campus, in my faculty position, to teach in the Communications Department at the very same time that Peter came from Pakistan to go to the graduate school. It was one Friday, at lunchtime, in September\u2014so it was about a month into the school year. An older gentleman, who was a new faculty member as well, recognized me from some orientation sessions. He was a graduate school professor\u2014Dr. Green. He came over and he said: \u201cYou know, I\u2019m eating with a bunch of my graduate school students. Would you like me to introduce you?\u201d I said, \u201cYes, this sounds great!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe introduced me to a whole table of graduate school students, and Peter was one of them. In the middle of lunch, I overheard Peter tell some other students that Minneapolis, Minnesota, was his favorite city in the United States. That\u2019s where I grew up. I was curious why this Brit loved Minneapolis. So I asked him, and that\u2019s how we got to talking. The funny thing is\u2014I went back to my office and, later that afternoon, I wrote in my journal that I thought I had just met the man I was going to spend the rest of my life with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No way!!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I did! Crazy\u2014I know!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Had you done that before?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> No! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Only time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Only time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And what was it about Peter?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know! The whole afternoon was just\u2014I sensed God\u2019s presence. I put it down to that. I don\u2019t know how else to explain it. I just think\u2014there was something.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But it didn\u2019t just rocket off into a relationship right away; did it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> No; it didn\u2019t \/ it didn\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How long from that first meeting until you were starting to see one another regularly?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Well, we ran into each other at mission conferences, and I must admit I started eating in that cafeteria more often. [Laughter] So we would have dinner together occasionally and talk.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Hold it! Hold it! Hold it!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you flirt?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Probably. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> I can\u2019t say I really noticed. [Laughter] We just had really good conversations. From my perspective, it was the conversations we had on the walk\u2014where I walked her to the train station\u2014that began to really interest me in who she was\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014because she was a very thoughtful, intelligent Christian woman, who wasn\u2019t afraid to put her best self forward. She wasn\u2019t <em>trying<\/em> to be an image of something that I think I would like\u2014there was a little of that\u2014but it was mostly a genuine, heartfelt conversation about the things she loved \/ about the thoughts she was having. It\u2019s the depth of those thoughts that set her apart from anybody else.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, let\u2019s go back to the theme of your book. What are you observing today about 20-somethings who are dating? What are you seeing in them today that you kind of go, \u201cWow!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes; there\u2019s a lot of consumerism, because you even see Christians who develop their checklist. I do think we should be wise, biblically, and look at what the Bible lays out as good in somebody that we\u2019re going to partner with\u2014as the Bible talks about \u201cyoking\u201d \/ being tied together with someone. It\u2019s good to be with someone who\u2019s in an equal sort of footing. Where that crosses a line is where it gets so that I become a consumer\u2014where, actually, it\u2019s about <em>me<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m measuring to see if I\u2019ve got the best product from the line here: \u201cWhen this one gets a little bit worn out, I think I\u2019m going to trade it in for a better model,\u201d \/ \u201cWhen this one gets a little bit so it doesn\u2019t satisfy what I\u2019m looking for on my list for my own self\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat <em>misses<\/em> the point entirely, because I think marriage and dating are about the service of God: \u201cWhat work, what idea, what life has God called me to? Is this the best way for me to fulfill that calling?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, with Kelli, what I found was that the word, \u201cally,\u201d started to apply. I didn\u2019t really think of relationships as an alliance. Unfortunately, I dated very badly in my 20s; but when it got to Kelli, it was a very different dating relationship, where it was pulling for the kingdom of God. I had met somebody who could be my ally, and it scared the living daylights out of me; because I knew we weren\u2019t playing at this anymore.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to get to Kelli\u2019s answer to the question about what she\u2019s seeing in 20-somethings today as they date, but I know Bob\u2019s got an illustration of what you experienced that really is perfect. You\u2019re going to nod your heads on this one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s something I heard Pastor Tommy Nelson, from Denton Bible Church, say years ago\u2014he said: \u201cMy advice to singles has always been, \u2018Your job, when you\u2019re single, is to run as hard and as fast toward Jesus as you can.\u2019\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> He said, \u201c\u2019Now, in the process of running, if you see somebody out of the corner of your eye, running in the same direction, at the same speed, take a second look.\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019ve always thought that was great advice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I like that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> That\u2019s very good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You do want same speed \/ same direction\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014not just, \u201cCan they check the box, \u2018Christian\u2019?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes; that\u2019s what we see so much of!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But two people who really are on the same path \/ at the same level of spiritual interest\u2014that\u2019s eventually what you began to realize about Kelli\u2014is that you guys were on the same path, with the same agenda for life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> We have become a good team together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, part of that is the book that we\u2019re talking about today in that this is something we wrote together. It seems like an allied activity. Also, the way we do ministry in the church \/ the way we do ministry at Moody\u2014there are so many ways that, over the years, that initial sense of alliance has actually spun out more and more into ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to just take a second and speak to both the parents of singles and singles, right here. The Scripture warns against being unequally yoked. And we generally think of that as being a believer marrying an unbeliever.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I think that\u2019s how that passage is probably best applied; however, if you\u2019ve got someone who is running toward a different destination\u2014who is not running after Christ\u2014and you\u2019re trying to pursue him, you need to go slowly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Or, if you\u2019ve got somebody who\u2019s just jogging instead of running.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Right!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014playing church.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, somebody\u2019s who is just kind of along for the ride \/ walking every now and then.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, they may be trolling, Bob\u2014trying to get a spouse\u2014and not all that serious about their own faith in Jesus Christ. I want to tell you something\u2014as a single person or as a parent of a single\u2014you\u2019ve got to pull back and evaluate: \u201cAre you, first of all, headed toward the right destination?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes; absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Then, secondly, where are they headed?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Then, you shouldn\u2019t just ask, \u201cWhere are they today?\u201d but \u201cWhat\u2019s the track record?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Look and see where they\u2019ve been: \u201cIs this a pursuit that has a trail to it?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019re talking to Kelli and Peter Worrall, who have written a book called <em>20 Things We\u2019d Tell Our Twenty-Something Selves<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKelli, how would you answer Dennis\u2019 question?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> A couple of different things come to mind\u2014kind of two ends of the spectrum. I think, in our environment\u2014you know, at Moody Bible Institute\u2014I think we can see the desperation to get married by the time you graduate and the \u201cring by spring.\u201d We joke about it, but it\u2019s a very real thing that a lot of these students feel. I think some of them we see\u2014wanting to get married or starting to talk about marriage very, very quickly, when it\u2019s still based on an emotional\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you know: \u201cYou make me feel good about myself. I like that. That feels great! I want more of that.\u201d They\u2019re making decisions and having conversations about marriage way too soon, based on that emotional high that you get in the infatuation stage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut then, I also see something on the other end of the spectrum, particularly with the young women, where they look at the guys around them and they maybe even, oddly enough, put too high of a standard on them. Some of them have these fathers that they admire so deeply, and they want a guy just like their dad. I have to almost talk to them about: \u201cOkay; your dad has had\u2014he\u2019s got\u201430 years on these young men that you\u2019re looking at!\u201d So, absolutely, like you were saying, Dennis, look at the track record\u2014there needs to be that foundation\u2014but you can\u2019t put the pressure on a 22-year-old young man to be where your, you know, 50-something-year-old father is in his spiritual journey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014or a 28-year-old young man.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He\u2019s still in the process of hammering out what it means!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes, but is he teachable? I think being teachable is so key.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Because you can see that in the 22-year-old, and you need that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; and teachability is really humility\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014which is the basis of truly being a Christ-follower.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Peter, Kelli\u2019s already shared where she was in this relationship. She\u2019d already checked it off \/ written it down in her journal! [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Right!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It was signed, sealed, and delivered.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> I had come to <em>Bible <\/em>school. This was one of those times when I was leaving the whole idea of women behind.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Fully consecrated.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Fully set apart \/ part of the celibate monk society. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cNo turning back.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> \u201cNo turning back\u201d; that\u2019s right!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Could you sing that, Bob? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> [singing] \u201cThe world behind me, the cross before me\u201d; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m with ya! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> [singing] \u201cNo girl beside me, the cross before me!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There\u2019s a little bit of Moody coming out again! I can see it right there! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> So I was very much concentrated on wanting to find God. I enjoyed the relationship\u2014and I would say I was attracted\u2014but I didn\u2019t want it to be a distraction. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo when it became really apparent that we had sort of started to date, I decided to go around to Kelli\u2019s house and tell her that it was all over; because I needed to focus on Jesus.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Now, hang on! Let me just say to young women: \u201cIf the guy says, \u2018It\u2019s become apparent that we\u2019ve sort of started to date,\u2019 that should be a red flag!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> [Laughing] Right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> He didn\u2019t realize that was what was going on. But your times together had become regular, and it was starting to get obvious to both of you that there were feelings there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> \u2014and the men on my floor.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And how old were you at this point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Twenty-eight \/ I was 28.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So you should have known better. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Thank you!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> I should have known better, and Kelli would affirm that wholeheartedly. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You went to tell her, \u201cIt\u2019s all over.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> I did!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Before Christmas.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> And then, just before Christmas break\u2014great Christmas present from her prospective boyfriend. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That makes 100 percent sense.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> It was awful!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Of course! You found the right one; why should this get serious?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> And, actually, Kelli gave it all up to God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat she did was\u2014she wrote my name on a piece of paper; and, then, because she\u2019s very symbolic, she burned it and put it in a glass. She actually burned my name and left it all with God\u2014and left it all behind.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> And then we moved forward.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No, no, no! You went over to her house and saw the burn pile.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> The ashes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> I thought, \u201cOh, my goodness!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She pointed at the burn pile\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I did!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and said, \u201cThat\u2019s you!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> She did \/ she did. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What did you think at that point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Oh, I thought, \u201cOh, my goodness, what a fool!\u201d [Laughter] Anyway, I was a fool. What I realized is that I had told God the way it was going to be in my service of Him. I had said, \u201cGod, I am following You, and it\u2019s going to be this way.\u201d And God was bringing a woman into my life, who was going to be my partner for the rest of my life. I was saying: \u201cNo; no God, because I\u2019m going to serve You this way. It doesn\u2019t involve this woman.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo Kelli and I talked, and we decided to pray about it. We prayed about it for a month. At the end of that month, I had a very different perspective of, \u201cMaybe I could serve God <em>and <\/em>be an ally with a woman, and we could serve God together.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you\u2019d had that perspective all along; hadn\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I knew it all along. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And the Apostle Paul knew it all along too. He\u2019s the one who said, \u201cIt is better to marry than to burn.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cwith passion\u201d; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> That could be our theme verse! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Not necessarily in a bottle, though. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think what singles need to hear us saying here is: \u201cRecalibrate or take an inventory of: \u201cWhat is the direction you\u2019re running in? What\u2019s your destination?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cIs it Jesus Christ?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cOr is it success \/ is it the trappings of the world? It can even be the opposite sex.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cWe find fresh things to make idols out of every day.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat you two are really challenging, I think, singles to do, at this point, is\u2014really take that inventory and get right with their relationship with Christ. It\u2019s still not going to be easy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s still going to be very difficult; but in the process of running toward Christ, look to your left\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014look to your right, and see who God has also brought your way, who\u2019s running in that same direction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well; and I had a pastor friend of mine share with me one time\u2014he said that he had proposed to his wife using the verse from Psalms that says, \u201cOh, magnify the Lord with me, and let us exalt His Name together.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s lovely!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I thought, \u201cThat\u2019s not what I was thinking!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Even though I was a Christian \/ even though Mary Ann and I wanted our marriage to glorify God, I wasn\u2019t thinking this marriage should really be all about God and His purposes. It was more about, \u201cI\u2019d like a companion as I continue to pursue God.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And how old were you at that time?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I was 23 \/ she was 25 when we got married.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And it was years later that I said: \u201cOh, oh! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cGod at the center of this doesn\u2019t just mean that, when we don\u2019t know where to go, we come back to the center.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes; that\u2019s key.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cIt means that our lives are oriented around Him and His purposes.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And there\u2019s some application here for married people as well\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cAre you both running in the same direction?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> That\u2019s important.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And, \u201cIf you\u2019re not, I\u2019d encourage you to come to the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and have a spiritual wheel alignment for your marriage and your family. Get some training in that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you know a single who needs a great read, get this book by Kelli and Peter: <em>20 Things We\u2019d Tell Our Twenty-Something Selves<\/em>\u2014a lot of great advice from a couple of Moody professors who know a little bit about that same subject because of their own experiences.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And in fact, online at your website, you guys have got a Bible study that goes along with the book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> We do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So this would be a great opportunity for you\u2014maybe with some other 20-somethings\u2014to get together, get the book, and go through these 20 things together. Take advantage of the wisdom of a couple that has a few more years under their belt than you have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got copies of the book, <em>20 Things We\u2019d Tell Our Twenty-Something Selves<\/em>. You can go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, to find out more about how to get a copy of the book\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014order from us online if you\u2019d like. There\u2019s also a link to Peter and Kelli\u2019s website if you\u2019d like to download the study guide that goes along with it. Once again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com. If you\u2019d prefer to order by phone, call us at 1-800-FL-TODAY\u20141-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, all year long, we have been celebrating our 40<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary as a ministry. The way we\u2019re doing that is by celebrating a lot of anniversaries. We\u2019re The Proud Sponsor of Anniversaries<sup>\u2122<\/sup>. Today, we want to say, \u201cHappy anniversary!\u201d to Steve and Suzanne Hogren, who live in Sierra Madre, California. It is their silver anniversary today. \u201cCongratulations!\u201d to the Hogrens. 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It would be nice to have the wisdom of your 50s and the vitality of your 20s come together at the same time, but it doesn\u2019t work that way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re going to pass on some of that older wisdom to some of our younger listeners today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I\u2019m just sitting here thinking back to when I was in my 20s. I thought I knew a lot back when I was in my 20s! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You know, you think you\u2019ve got life wired together; then you fall in love with a young lady, and you find out what you don\u2019t know. 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They are the authors of a book called <em>20 Things We\u2019d Tell Our Twenty-Something Selves.<\/em> Let me just explain who the authors are\u2014Kelli and Peter Worrall join us on <em>FamilyLife Today.<\/em> Peter, Kelli, welcome.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Thanks for having us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019m glad you\u2019re here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> It\u2019s good to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Good to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> They are parents of two. They\u2019ve been married since 1999 and are professors at Moody Bible Institute. You\u2019ve got to tell me the best joke you know about the Moody Bible Institute. 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I think they say that about most Bible schools.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> But, yes; the \u201cMoody Bridal Institute\u201d is pretty common.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, Kelli, explain where you were in your 20s.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You were single.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I was single. I graduated from my undergraduate degree\u2014I went to Cedarville University and graduated\u2014and moved directly to Chicago all by myself\u2014didn\u2019t know a soul in the city, but I got a job there for a Christian publishing company. I arrived in the suburbs of Chicago to edit and write children\u2019s curriculum. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had my own little apartment and got real involved in a church there. I went to seminary. I was doing kind of all the good 20-something Christian girl things, and thought I had things figured out to some degree.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s a big town for\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> It is! It\u2019s a big lonely town\u2014[Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014for a young lady like you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli: <\/strong>\u2014a big, scary town for a young lady.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes; and I\u2019m just wondering\u2014because we just talked about \u201cMoody Bridal Institute\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014you got out of Cedarville without a ring.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I did!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And were you okay with that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I got gipped!! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Were you frustrated by that?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I wanted to be married, certainly. As you go through your 20s, and all of your friends are getting married, and you\u2019re the bridesmaid\u2014always the bridesmaid \/ never the bride was kind of\u2014I felt that over the years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI didn\u2019t meet Peter until I was 29. So it was the whole decade of my 20s\u2014I was single, and doing life on my own, and wondering if it would ever happen.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And, Peter, for you in your 20s?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Well, I would say that I had a very conflicted view on life, because I had a mother who was a Christian and a father who wasn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy father was very much a rock-\u2018n-rolling kind of aggressive personality. My mother was a more passive, standard Christian personality. My 20s would fluctuate between these two personas I was picking up. There were times when I would be a little bit wild\u2014and there were times when I would do things that were really not advisable \/ I would ruin things. And then, there were times when I would try to get it all together and try to follow God fervently. I would be fluctuating back and forth between these two personas that I was developing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You traveled the world in your 20s.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> I did a little bit; yes. Actually, my family were travelers. My cousins lived in Africa for a while. One of my cousins actually sailed, single-handedly, across the Atlantic. This was part of the family conversation. When I was 18, I decided that I wanted to be a missionary of some kind, because missionaries in our church had a sort of elevated status. I think I wanted that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo be honest, it was more about <em>me<\/em> than God\u2014I think, in retrospect. I think I was really quite arrogant at the time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But your faith was an unsettled issue for you during your 20s. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> It was \/ it was; because I would forget about it for periods of time. I would make decisions which really weren\u2019t in line with Christian thinking for long periods of time. Then I would come back to the truth, and then I would want to give everything. So it was either all-on, or it was all-off. It just kept fluctuating back and forth, no matter where I was.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So I want you both to comment on this: \u201cHow were your lives both very similar to 20-somethings today?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And \u201cHow were your lives really different than those who are in their 20s today?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes; one of the things that has happened is\u2014that people in their 20s, more and more, are getting <em>access<\/em> to things. People in their 20s\u201430\/40 years ago\u2014they would have access to the family business \/ they would have access to the local town. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had access to all kinds of possibilities\u2014they\u2019ve only really increased. We\u2019ve got a lot of people going on short-term missions now all over the world. After I went to Pakistan in my 20s, I actually went to Japan after that for three years. I even went to Afghanistan for a month, and then I went back to Pakistan for two years.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, for me, it was a series of mission trips for all the wrong reasons. People are doing that even now on shorter, more consumer-oriented mission trips. They go in; they spend some time in a country; they paint a church; then they get really frustrated if they don\u2019t have a lot of play time at the end of it in that exciting country. And then they come home.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo now, there\u2019s more and more access. Another thing would be alienation\u2014that, actually, people are more alienated from each other. We have our little devices, where we connect with each other; but the relationships are with a million people, and they\u2019re an inch deep. That\u2019s different than when I was young, for sure.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What about you, Kelli?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I think I wanted the same things that 20-somethings nowadays want. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think I wanted intimacy, I wanted relationships, and I wanted to be of significance\u2014to do things that mattered. I think those core desires are still the same, perhaps, of 20-somethings. But I think we, perhaps, like Peter is saying, go about it different ways now\u2014the 20-somethings we see coming through\u2014just because the possibilities are endless for them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I was in my 20s, the internet was just being unveiled. I really didn\u2019t have access to all of that\u2014so that was very different.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> The two of you met at the end of your decade of the 20s.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> We did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> For young people today, the average age that people are getting married\u2014the average young man is 29 \/ the young woman is 27 or 28.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> In your day, that was kind of on the older end of the spectrum.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Tell us about how you met and how the two of you came to be.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Well, we met at Moody Bible Institute in the fall of 1998. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI arrived on campus, in my faculty position, to teach in the Communications Department at the very same time that Peter came from Pakistan to go to the graduate school. It was one Friday, at lunchtime, in September\u2014so it was about a month into the school year. An older gentleman, who was a new faculty member as well, recognized me from some orientation sessions. He was a graduate school professor\u2014Dr. Green. He came over and he said: \u201cYou know, I\u2019m eating with a bunch of my graduate school students. Would you like me to introduce you?\u201d I said, \u201cYes, this sounds great!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe introduced me to a whole table of graduate school students, and Peter was one of them. In the middle of lunch, I overheard Peter tell some other students that Minneapolis, Minnesota, was his favorite city in the United States. That\u2019s where I grew up. I was curious why this Brit loved Minneapolis. So I asked him, and that\u2019s how we got to talking. The funny thing is\u2014I went back to my office and, later that afternoon, I wrote in my journal that I thought I had just met the man I was going to spend the rest of my life with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No way!!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I did! Crazy\u2014I know!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Had you done that before?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> No! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Only time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Only time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And what was it about Peter?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I don\u2019t know! The whole afternoon was just\u2014I sensed God\u2019s presence. I put it down to that. I don\u2019t know how else to explain it. I just think\u2014there was something.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But it didn\u2019t just rocket off into a relationship right away; did it?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> No; it didn\u2019t \/ it didn\u2019t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> How long from that first meeting until you were starting to see one another regularly?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Well, we ran into each other at mission conferences, and I must admit I started eating in that cafeteria more often. [Laughter] So we would have dinner together occasionally and talk.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Hold it! Hold it! Hold it!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Did you flirt?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Probably. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> I can\u2019t say I really noticed. [Laughter] We just had really good conversations. From my perspective, it was the conversations we had on the walk\u2014where I walked her to the train station\u2014that began to really interest me in who she was\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014because she was a very thoughtful, intelligent Christian woman, who wasn\u2019t afraid to put her best self forward. She wasn\u2019t <em>trying<\/em> to be an image of something that I think I would like\u2014there was a little of that\u2014but it was mostly a genuine, heartfelt conversation about the things she loved \/ about the thoughts she was having. It\u2019s the depth of those thoughts that set her apart from anybody else.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So, let\u2019s go back to the theme of your book. What are you observing today about 20-somethings who are dating? What are you seeing in them today that you kind of go, \u201cWow!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes; there\u2019s a lot of consumerism, because you even see Christians who develop their checklist. I do think we should be wise, biblically, and look at what the Bible lays out as good in somebody that we\u2019re going to partner with\u2014as the Bible talks about \u201cyoking\u201d \/ being tied together with someone. It\u2019s good to be with someone who\u2019s in an equal sort of footing. Where that crosses a line is where it gets so that I become a consumer\u2014where, actually, it\u2019s about <em>me<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m measuring to see if I\u2019ve got the best product from the line here: \u201cWhen this one gets a little bit worn out, I think I\u2019m going to trade it in for a better model,\u201d \/ \u201cWhen this one gets a little bit so it doesn\u2019t satisfy what I\u2019m looking for on my list for my own self\u2026\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat <em>misses<\/em> the point entirely, because I think marriage and dating are about the service of God: \u201cWhat work, what idea, what life has God called me to? Is this the best way for me to fulfill that calling?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd, with Kelli, what I found was that the word, \u201cally,\u201d started to apply. I didn\u2019t really think of relationships as an alliance. Unfortunately, I dated very badly in my 20s; but when it got to Kelli, it was a very different dating relationship, where it was pulling for the kingdom of God. I had met somebody who could be my ally, and it scared the living daylights out of me; because I knew we weren\u2019t playing at this anymore.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to get to Kelli\u2019s answer to the question about what she\u2019s seeing in 20-somethings today as they date, but I know Bob\u2019s got an illustration of what you experienced that really is perfect. You\u2019re going to nod your heads on this one.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> It\u2019s something I heard Pastor Tommy Nelson, from Denton Bible Church, say years ago\u2014he said: \u201cMy advice to singles has always been, \u2018Your job, when you\u2019re single, is to run as hard and as fast toward Jesus as you can.\u2019\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> He said, \u201c\u2019Now, in the process of running, if you see somebody out of the corner of your eye, running in the same direction, at the same speed, take a second look.\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019ve always thought that was great advice.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I like that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> That\u2019s very good.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You do want same speed \/ same direction\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u2014not just, \u201cCan they check the box, \u2018Christian\u2019?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes; that\u2019s what we see so much of!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> But two people who really are on the same path \/ at the same level of spiritual interest\u2014that\u2019s eventually what you began to realize about Kelli\u2014is that you guys were on the same path, with the same agenda for life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> We have become a good team together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI mean, part of that is the book that we\u2019re talking about today in that this is something we wrote together. It seems like an allied activity. Also, the way we do ministry in the church \/ the way we do ministry at Moody\u2014there are so many ways that, over the years, that initial sense of alliance has actually spun out more and more into ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I want to just take a second and speak to both the parents of singles and singles, right here. The Scripture warns against being unequally yoked. And we generally think of that as being a believer marrying an unbeliever.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And I think that\u2019s how that passage is probably best applied; however, if you\u2019ve got someone who is running toward a different destination\u2014who is not running after Christ\u2014and you\u2019re trying to pursue him, you need to go slowly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Or, if you\u2019ve got somebody who\u2019s just jogging instead of running.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Right!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014playing church.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes, somebody\u2019s who is just kind of along for the ride \/ walking every now and then.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Well, they may be trolling, Bob\u2014trying to get a spouse\u2014and not all that serious about their own faith in Jesus Christ. I want to tell you something\u2014as a single person or as a parent of a single\u2014you\u2019ve got to pull back and evaluate: \u201cAre you, first of all, headed toward the right destination?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes; absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Then, secondly, where are they headed?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Then, you shouldn\u2019t just ask, \u201cWhere are they today?\u201d but \u201cWhat\u2019s the track record?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Look and see where they\u2019ve been: \u201cIs this a pursuit that has a trail to it?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We\u2019re talking to Kelli and Peter Worrall, who have written a book called <em>20 Things We\u2019d Tell Our Twenty-Something Selves<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKelli, how would you answer Dennis\u2019 question?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> A couple of different things come to mind\u2014kind of two ends of the spectrum. I think, in our environment\u2014you know, at Moody Bible Institute\u2014I think we can see the desperation to get married by the time you graduate and the \u201cring by spring.\u201d We joke about it, but it\u2019s a very real thing that a lot of these students feel. I think some of them we see\u2014wanting to get married or starting to talk about marriage very, very quickly, when it\u2019s still based on an emotional\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014you know: \u201cYou make me feel good about myself. I like that. That feels great! I want more of that.\u201d They\u2019re making decisions and having conversations about marriage way too soon, based on that emotional high that you get in the infatuation stage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut then, I also see something on the other end of the spectrum, particularly with the young women, where they look at the guys around them and they maybe even, oddly enough, put too high of a standard on them. Some of them have these fathers that they admire so deeply, and they want a guy just like their dad. I have to almost talk to them about: \u201cOkay; your dad has had\u2014he\u2019s got\u201430 years on these young men that you\u2019re looking at!\u201d So, absolutely, like you were saying, Dennis, look at the track record\u2014there needs to be that foundation\u2014but you can\u2019t put the pressure on a 22-year-old young man to be where your, you know, 50-something-year-old father is in his spiritual journey.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014or a 28-year-old young man.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> He\u2019s still in the process of hammering out what it means!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes, but is he teachable? I think being teachable is so key.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Because you can see that in the 22-year-old, and you need that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes; and teachability is really humility\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014which is the basis of truly being a Christ-follower.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Peter, Kelli\u2019s already shared where she was in this relationship. She\u2019d already checked it off \/ written it down in her journal! [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Right!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It was signed, sealed, and delivered.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> I had come to <em>Bible <\/em>school. This was one of those times when I was leaving the whole idea of women behind.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Fully consecrated.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Fully set apart \/ part of the celibate monk society. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cNo turning back.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> \u201cNo turning back\u201d; that\u2019s right!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Could you sing that, Bob? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> [singing] \u201cThe world behind me, the cross before me\u201d; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I\u2019m with ya! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> [singing] \u201cNo girl beside me, the cross before me!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> There\u2019s a little bit of Moody coming out again! I can see it right there! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> So I was very much concentrated on wanting to find God. I enjoyed the relationship\u2014and I would say I was attracted\u2014but I didn\u2019t want it to be a distraction. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo when it became really apparent that we had sort of started to date, I decided to go around to Kelli\u2019s house and tell her that it was all over; because I needed to focus on Jesus.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Now, hang on! Let me just say to young women: \u201cIf the guy says, \u2018It\u2019s become apparent that we\u2019ve sort of started to date,\u2019 that should be a red flag!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> [Laughing] Right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> He didn\u2019t realize that was what was going on. But your times together had become regular, and it was starting to get obvious to both of you that there were feelings there.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> \u2014and the men on my floor.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And how old were you at this point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Twenty-eight \/ I was 28.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> So you should have known better. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Thank you!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> I should have known better, and Kelli would affirm that wholeheartedly. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> You went to tell her, \u201cIt\u2019s all over.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> I did!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Before Christmas.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> And then, just before Christmas break\u2014great Christmas present from her prospective boyfriend. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That makes 100 percent sense.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> It was awful!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Of course! You found the right one; why should this get serious?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> And, actually, Kelli gave it all up to God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat she did was\u2014she wrote my name on a piece of paper; and, then, because she\u2019s very symbolic, she burned it and put it in a glass. She actually burned my name and left it all with God\u2014and left it all behind.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I did.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> And then we moved forward.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> No, no, no! You went over to her house and saw the burn pile.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> The ashes!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> I thought, \u201cOh, my goodness!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> She pointed at the burn pile\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I did!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014and said, \u201cThat\u2019s you!\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> She did \/ she did. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> What did you think at that point?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Oh, I thought, \u201cOh, my goodness, what a fool!\u201d [Laughter] Anyway, I was a fool. What I realized is that I had told God the way it was going to be in my service of Him. I had said, \u201cGod, I am following You, and it\u2019s going to be this way.\u201d And God was bringing a woman into my life, who was going to be my partner for the rest of my life. I was saying: \u201cNo; no God, because I\u2019m going to serve You this way. It doesn\u2019t involve this woman.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo Kelli and I talked, and we decided to pray about it. We prayed about it for a month. At the end of that month, I had a very different perspective of, \u201cMaybe I could serve God <em>and <\/em>be an ally with a woman, and we could serve God together.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And you\u2019d had that perspective all along; hadn\u2019t you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> I knew it all along. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And the Apostle Paul knew it all along too. He\u2019s the one who said, \u201cIt is better to marry than to burn.\u201d [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> \u2014\u201cwith passion\u201d; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> That could be our theme verse! [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Not necessarily in a bottle, though. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I think what singles need to hear us saying here is: \u201cRecalibrate or take an inventory of: \u201cWhat is the direction you\u2019re running in? What\u2019s your destination?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cIs it Jesus Christ?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cOr is it success \/ is it the trappings of the world? It can even be the opposite sex.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes, yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cWe find fresh things to make idols out of every day.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat you two are really challenging, I think, singles to do, at this point, is\u2014really take that inventory and get right with their relationship with Christ. It\u2019s still not going to be easy. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> That\u2019s right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> It\u2019s still going to be very difficult; but in the process of running toward Christ, look to your left\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014look to your right, and see who God has also brought your way, who\u2019s running in that same direction.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Absolutely.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Well; and I had a pastor friend of mine share with me one time\u2014he said that he had proposed to his wife using the verse from Psalms that says, \u201cOh, magnify the Lord with me, and let us exalt His Name together.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s lovely!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I thought, \u201cThat\u2019s not what I was thinking!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Even though I was a Christian \/ even though Mary Ann and I wanted our marriage to glorify God, I wasn\u2019t thinking this marriage should really be all about God and His purposes. It was more about, \u201cI\u2019d like a companion as I continue to pursue God.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And how old were you at that time?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> I was 23 \/ she was 25 when we got married.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And it was years later that I said: \u201cOh, oh! \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cGod at the center of this doesn\u2019t just mean that, when we don\u2019t know where to go, we come back to the center.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes; that\u2019s key.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> \u201cIt means that our lives are oriented around Him and His purposes.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And there\u2019s some application here for married people as well\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u201cAre you both running in the same direction?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> That\u2019s important.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And, \u201cIf you\u2019re not, I\u2019d encourage you to come to the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> and have a spiritual wheel alignment for your marriage and your family. Get some training in that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you know a single who needs a great read, get this book by Kelli and Peter: <em>20 Things We\u2019d Tell Our Twenty-Something Selves<\/em>\u2014a lot of great advice from a couple of Moody professors who know a little bit about that same subject because of their own experiences.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> And in fact, online at your website, you guys have got a Bible study that goes along with the book.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Peter:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kelli:<\/strong> We do.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So this would be a great opportunity for you\u2014maybe with some other 20-somethings\u2014to get together, get the book, and go through these 20 things together. Take advantage of the wisdom of a couple that has a few more years under their belt than you have.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ve got copies of the book, <em>20 Things We\u2019d Tell Our Twenty-Something Selves<\/em>. You can go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, to find out more about how to get a copy of the book\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014order from us online if you\u2019d like. There\u2019s also a link to Peter and Kelli\u2019s website if you\u2019d like to download the study guide that goes along with it. Once again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com. If you\u2019d prefer to order by phone, call us at 1-800-FL-TODAY\u20141-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, all year long, we have been celebrating our 40<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary as a ministry. The way we\u2019re doing that is by celebrating a lot of anniversaries. We\u2019re The Proud Sponsor of Anniversaries<sup>\u2122<\/sup>. Today, we want to say, \u201cHappy anniversary!\u201d to Steve and Suzanne Hogren, who live in Sierra Madre, California. It is their silver anniversary today. \u201cCongratulations!\u201d to the Hogrens. I know those 25 years have not always been easy\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014I think a lot of us could say the same thing\u2014so \u201cCongratulations on 25 years together as husband and wife!\u201d May there be many, many more anniversaries to come. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere at FamilyLife, our goal is to help more and more couples celebrate more and more anniversaries. We want to effectively develop godly marriages and families\u2014the kinds of marriages and families that change the world one home at a time. 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