{"id":304132,"date":"2016-08-17T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-08-17T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/what-do-i-do-now\/"},"modified":"2016-08-17T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2016-08-17T15:00:00","slug":"what-do-i-do-now","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/what-do-i-do-now\/","title":{"rendered":"What Do I Do Now?"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Phil Waldrep gives parents several practical steps they can take when dealing with a prodigal son or daughter.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2016-08-17.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"23.84M","filesize_raw":"24996187","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2841,2839,2855],"tags":[4240,4235,2209,5182,2385,4649],"podcast_series":[8157],"cwp_profile":[3212],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-304132","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-anger-and-rebellion","category-attitude-problems","category-teens","tag-guilt","tag-leaving-the-faith","tag-parenting","tag-prodigal","tag-shame","tag-unconditional-love","podcast_series-reaching-your-prodigal","cwp_profile-phil-waldrep","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/304132\/what-do-i-do-now","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/304132\/what-do-i-do-now","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"ZNmuJrdYYE\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/what-do-i-do-now\/\">What Do I Do Now?<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/what-do-i-do-now\/embed\/#?secret=ZNmuJrdYYE\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;What Do I Do Now?&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"ZNmuJrdYYE\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Phil Waldrep says some of the prayers we ought to be praying are hard prayers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> There are several hard prayers, but let me emphasize two because of the two that I discovered God uses the most. The first is\u2014we pray as parents and as grandparents, \u201cLord, bring into the life of my prodigal someone who has a heart for You.\u201d Then the second prayer is probably the hardest prayer a parent will ever pray. It sounds easy, but it is not\u2014we say, \u201cLord, whatever it takes, I want You to do it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, August 17<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. Phil Waldrep joins us again today as we talk about how we can tell if a prodigal son or daughter is really turning a spiritual corner or is just looking to get bailed out of a jam. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ll explore that today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We\u2019re talking this week about what I think may be the hardest issue parents have to face. In some ways, it would be easier, I think\u2014and maybe I\u2019m wrong about this\u2014but in some ways it would be easier to have a child go into heaven.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. I get what you\u2019re saying, Bob. What you\u2019re talking about is being the parent of a prodigal.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I tell you what\u2014I just want to say to the listening audience\u2014our churches are filled with families who are grieving around a child in their family that\u2019s not doing well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I mean, it\u2019s just amazing how much shame there can be around this and how kind of underground parents go. When Barbara and I went through a period of time of struggling with one of our children, there was a group that formed\u2014<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014it wasn\u2019t called this\u2014but it became a POPs group\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014Parents of Prodigals. Those moms met religiously\u2014I mean, every week they would meet and they would get together and pray for one another. I\u2019m going to tell you something\u2014it was\u2014it was agony. It was\u2014I guess, as you were talking, Bob, I was thinking, \u201cWhat would I compare it to?\u201d It\u2019s like divorce. Divorce is a living rejection of another human being\u2014it\u2019s saying: \u201cI want out. I don\u2019t want you \/ I don\u2019t want your faith.\u201d Basically that\u2019s what a prodigal\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Prodigal has said, \u201cI\u2019m out.\u201d It\u2019s a divorce from the family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. We\u2019ve got somebody with us whose head is nodding right here\u2014Phil Waldrep, who joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome back Phil.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Thank you. It\u2019s <em>great<\/em> to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019ve written a book called <em>Reaching Your Prodigal<\/em>. You\u2019ve been in ministry for a number of years. You have an evangelistic ministry around the country. Have two children\u2014you and your wife have been married since 1984. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou ask two questions here, and I feel like we\u2019ve addressed the first question; but we haven\u2019t gotten to the second question that\u2019s on the cover of your book. Again, the title of the book is <em>Reaching Your Prodigal: What did I do wrong?<\/em>\u2014is the first question. The second one is: <em>What do I do now?<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat do you coach parents to do when they ask that second question and they\u2019re in the midst of the rejection? They\u2019re talking about what Bob is talking about\u2014they\u2019re hurting\u2014their child doesn\u2019t want their faith \/ doesn\u2019t want them and may even be hostile and maybe even abusive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Well, there are several steps that I think parents need to take if they have a prodigal child. The first one may be the most important\u2014they need to address the guilt and the shame that they feel. They can do that by understanding that no parents are perfect and they realize that even Adam and Eve walked away from a perfect God who was perfect in every way. We sometimes feel shame and guilt. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we do feel that guilt, then we are going to be <em>manipulated<\/em> by our prodigal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe first thing we have to do is get in a position of <em>strength<\/em> rather than weakness. We ask the Lord, \u201cLord, reveal to me what I did wrong.\u201d Sometimes the Lord does show us what we do wrong. Sometimes the Lord may affirm that we really did <em>nothing<\/em> wrong\u2014certainly nothing intentional. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen we know there are barriers. I encourage parents to have a conversation with their prodigal if it is possible. There are cases where it isn\u2019t possible\u2014maybe the prodigal is so hardened, they refuse to talk to the parents. What if\u2014what if they can have that conversation?\u00a0 They need to prepare for the conversation \/ they need to <em>think<\/em> about it in advance and prepare their own heart. <em>Love<\/em> them unconditionally as they\u2019re going through the process and then make the decision to allow their prodigal to face the consequences of what they\u2019ve done.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, if you were a dad sitting down with a son who\u2014let\u2019s just say this son has said, \u201cI\u2019m not going to church.\u201d We\u2019ll say he\u2019s got a decent job \/ got a girlfriend. You suspect they\u2019re sleeping together\u2014you don\u2019t know. You think your son may be drinking to excess\u2014you don\u2019t know. You call your son and say, \u201cCan we have lunch?\u201d and he\u2019s been a little off-putting; but he says, \u201cOkay. Yes; we can have lunch.\u201d What should that conversation at that lunch table be like, as a dad, with your son?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> I think, first of all, the one thing that I would address is\u2014I would try to find a very convenient time for the conversation to take place. If you haven\u2019t made it a regular habit of eating with your son and having lunch with him, all of a sudden, if you call and ask for lunch, red flags are going to go off in his mind. He\u2019s going to come in very guarded.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> I think sometimes you try to create a situation where it flows a little more naturally. I want to\u2014I understand the intent of your question\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> \u2014but I want to address that. When you start that conversation, I think you need to be in a \u201clistening\u201d mode rather than a \u201cspeaking\u201d mode\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> \u2014that you say to your prodigal son in this case: \u201cSon, I sense you\u2019re making some bad decisions. I want you to know I love you and I will <em>die<\/em> for you. I want to help you understand the consequences of what you\u2019re doing.\u201d Give them the freedom to speak into your life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I will hasten to say there are two distinct things I think we need to distinguish. There is a difference between a son, who\u2019s living at home under your roof, versus an adult child who\u2019s living away. That conversation and how that conversation may end can go two different directions. I think, when your child is at home, you have every right \/ in fact, a responsibility to set certain rules and to say to them, \u201cThis is the way we do it here at our house.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tStill needs to be a relationship\u2014doesn\u2019t just need to be rules for rules sake. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen that child lives outside of the home, you\u2019re not in a position to set those rules. The conversation will be a little bit different when you\u2014depending on whether they are at home or not. When you have that conversation, let them talk\u2014let them speak into your life. As parents, we\u2019re very quick to try to explain \/ we are very quick to try to correct. Sometimes, we need to remember our perspective, as a parent, and the perspective of a child\u2014two totally different perspectives. While we may think we were trying to work to get ahead so they have life better than we did, they may sense that it\u2019s rejection\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> \u2014that we didn\u2019t want to spend time with them. We need to have that conversation. We\u2019re honest in it, but we <em>listen<\/em>. Then, at the conclusion of that conversation, try to bring about some remedies\u2014to say, \u201cWell, why don\u2019t we do this?\u201d Lay it out and give them a chance to respond. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow I need to be very quick and tell parents\u2014they don\u2019t always respond.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> It doesn\u2019t always end with: \u201c\u2026and they lived happily ever after.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> It takes a <em>process<\/em>. It sometimes takes weeks and months to get there. The conversation is a good starting point.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So we\u2019re having the conversation\u2014I say to my son: \u201cI just got to say I\u2019m watching you make some choices that I\u2019m concerned about \/\u00a0 some stuff I\u2019m not sure about; but I suspect that you may be this \/ may be that. I think these are bad life decisions. I think they\u2019re going to have an impact on you. I want to hear what your perspective on all of this is.\u201d He says: \u201cDad, I appreciate that. I\u2019m not in the same place where you and Mom are. I don\u2019t think drinking\u2019s a bad thing. I think as long as you love somebody, it\u2019s okay to be intimate with them. I\u2019ve looked at what you and Mom believe\u2014I\u2019m not sure I embrace it; in fact, I\u2019m pretty sure I don\u2019t. But I still appreciate you and Mom, and I just want you to let me live my life and kind of get off my back.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat do I do at that point in that conversation? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> When a child makes a choice to walk away, they\u2019re the only one who makes the choice to come back into a right relationship with their heavenly Father. We can\u2019t force it nor can we rush it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> So we have to begin to pray: \u201cLord, give me wisdom as I parent this child \/ as I interact with this child. Help me, Lord, to do the right things. Help me to have the wisdom to do it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow one of the things that I will share with you, Bob, that you said is\u2014you said, when you have that conversation: \u201cSon, I suspect you\u2019re doing\u2026\u201d I will be real honest with you\u2014I think it\u2019s healthy when we sit down with prodigals that we give them the opportunity to talk to us <em>before<\/em> we even make accusations. I think it\u2019s important that we don\u2019t believe everything our friends have told us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> That we allow our child to speak. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we can ask them, \u201cSon, are you drinking?\u201d\u2014as opposed to, \u201cI suspect you\u2019re drinking.\u201d It might sound like a\u2014little bit of a minor issue, but I think it goes to whether I am accusing or whether I\u2019m listening.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> I think that is a <em>healthy<\/em> conversation to let them have, and let them speak to you honestly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I would just add this\u2014if you do toss it out\u2014where they can begin to admit some things and they crack open the door\u2014realize that sin has a way of layering up. What you may hear initially is a safe confession around something that you might consider fairly minor \/ maybe your adult child considers minor. What I think happens with parents\u2014we\u2019re so quick to want to rush in and rescue the prodigal, who\u2019s now come home. We\u2019ve got to realize that they may not be fully home yet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And that peeling the layers of sin back in the child\u2019s life may be like peeling an onion. You may get one layer only to find there is another, and another, and another. They may already have begun to experience some of the consequences of their choices and may be scared and frightened but don\u2019t know how to ultimately blurt out, \u201cI\u2019m hooked on drugs,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014or \u201cI\u2019ve gotten a girl pregnant,\u201d or \u201cI\u2019m pregnant.\u201d They fear rejection so much that to truly peel the onion back and deal with all of it in one setting \/ in one interaction is not likely to occur.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Very true. One thing I would add\u2014when you go to the story of the prodigal son\u2014that I love to reference because it\u2019s a wonderful story of a wonderful father\u2014remember the young man was in the pig pen. Now, in that story, he did have a heart change; but I have discovered that sometimes prodigals, in the pig pen, are hungry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey go home, physically; but their heart is still in the pig pen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s important to remember that we may see a change in behavior in our prodigal without a change of <em>heart<\/em>. That\u2019s when it\u2019s important, Dennis\u2014what I think you\u2019re addressing\u2014is that we need to make sure that, as our kids begin to share with us where they\u2019ve been, and the pig pens where they\u2019ve been, and the experiences they\u2019ve had, that we listen without condemnation. It doesn\u2019t mean we\u2019ll approve\u2014in fact, when I research prodigals, I discovered that a lot of them\u2014they know what they\u2019re doing wrong\u2014you don\u2019t have to tell them it\u2019s wrong.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> They already know\u2014their parents have taught them that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSometimes, they want the <em>safe zone<\/em>\u2014where they can say to a mom and dad: \u201cHey, I\u2019ve got a problem here. I am a drug addict.\u201d As parents, we don\u2019t need to react to that with words of condemnation and say: \u201cI knew it! I knew it! I can\u2019t believe you did\u2026\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tInstead to say: \u201cSon\u2014that took a lot of courage to say that to me. You know I love you, and let\u2019s walk through this together.\u201d That\u2019s a whole different reaction from the prodigal as opposed to, \u201cOh, this is embarrassing Mom and Dad.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> At that point there may need to be an intervention.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> If you\u2019re dealing with a child who has a substance abuse problem, you have to realize, as a parent, you may not be able to pull the child out of the ditch. It may come to a point that the child becomes so abusive \/ the child is so out of it that you literally have to set up a set of circumstances to ultimately say to the child: \u201cIt\u2019s time to go address a very serious problem. This is a life and death issue. We\u2019re going to give you one chance to address it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf anybody, who\u2019s been off in the rehab sub-culture that takes place in the drug world, you know that 80 percent of all kids, who get off into drugs go to a rehab unit\u201480 percent relapse\u2014they struggle with it again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ve got to know, as a parent, when to let out the line \/ give them more rope, as you said earlier, and when to be there and say: \u201cLet\u2019s keep the boundaries up. Let\u2019s know how to deal with this,\u201d and to rebuild trust one day at a time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We are talking about prodigals with Phil Waldrep. He\u2019s written a book called <em>Reaching Your Prodigal: What Did I Do Wrong? What Do I Do Now?<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou talked about praying for wisdom if a child says, \u201cThis is just where I am,\u201d and \u201cI\u2019m going to keep living my life this way,\u201d and \u201cCan I bring my girlfriend home for Christmas?\u201d and \u201cCan she stay in my room with me?\u201d and all kinds of questions that \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tparents have to wrestle with. You, in your book, talk about some of the hard prayers that you think parents need to be ready to pray. This comes from seeing what God has used to crack the heart of a prodigal; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. Well, there are several hard prayers; but let me emphasize two because of the two that I discovered God uses the most. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe first is\u2014we pray, as parents and as grandparents, \u201cLord, bring into the life of my prodigal someone who has a heart for You.\u201d Then, when you find those people, don\u2019t try to manipulate the relationship; but encourage them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen the second prayer is probably the hardest prayer a parent will ever pray. It sounds easy, but it\u2019s not\u2014we say, \u201cLord, whatever it takes, I want You to do it.\u201d When we pray those words, we often think about the brokenness in the life of our prodigal, but what if God wants to do something in <em>our<\/em> life to get the attention of the prodigal?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I researched prodigals and I talked with prodigals, who recently had gotten right with God, I asked them, \u201cWhat was it that caused you to evaluate your life?\u201d The most common response surprised me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey said, \u201cIt was the sickness and death of a parent or grandparent that made me evaluate my life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I heard that from so many prodigals\u2014because it was like, at that moment, they realized\u2014this relationship with Mom and Dad, or a grandparent, sometimes a brother or sister\u2014but there was someone who died or someone who was very ill\u2014I then realized, \u201cLord, am I willing, as a parent to say, \u2018Lord, if You need to take me to glory \/ You need to take me to heaven, I want You to do it if it gets the attention of my prodigal.\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I\u2019m not saying to anyone listening to us today, \u201cThe Lord\u2019s going to take you home to heaven,\u201d but here\u2019s what I have discovered\u2014when you\u2019re willing to say, \u201cLord, whatever it takes\u2026\u201d\u2014all the other stuff is easy. When we\u2019re willing to say: \u201cLord, I come with open hands. Whatever it takes to get the attention of my prodigal, I want You to do it. If I have to walk through suffering \/ if I have to die, I want You to do it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we can pray <em>that<\/em> prayer\u2014and mean it\u2014then I think God begins to get <em>our<\/em> heart into position, as parents, to reach out to the prodigal; because remember\u2014God sometimes needs to change <em>us<\/em> before He can work in our prodigal.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ll never forget talking to a young man, who was loved by his grandmother while he was a full-blown prodigal. He said, \u201cMy grandmother never preached at me, and she could have!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen I recall going to a funeral in the past couple of years, where a grandmother died. She asked her granddaughter, at her funeral, to read Scriptures. Well, this grandmother had been trying to reach this granddaughter and had been using these Scriptures to call her back to her faith; and she had resisted. I knew the granddaughter was struggling with her faith. I was at the funeral; and I sat there, watching this and I thought, \u201cWhat a genius of a grandmother!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe assigned the granddaughter to read the same passages of Scripture that she had been quoting to her and calling her back to. Now, at her death, she had assigned the granddaughter to read those passages. The granddaughter wept \/ cried her way through those verses. You just had to wonder: \u201cWhat is going on in her life and how will God use the death of her grandmother to perhaps bring her back to the faith that she\u2019d grown up in?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> I have heard so many stories, where the wisdom of the grandparent\u2014I don\u2019t know if I\u2019ve heard of one where they actually had them read the Scripture\u2014but it\u2019s <em>brilliant<\/em> because it is the Word of God that brings conviction and brings change. Having her read those words at her grandmother\u2019s memorial service\u2014no doubt in my mind\u2014God was using the death of that grandmother to bring about brokenness in her own life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI today just want to encourage listeners because you have a son or a daughter \/ you have a grandchild and maybe you\u2019re willing to say today: \u201cLord, whatever it takes. I\u2019m willing to do it.\u201d And yet you want to respond: \u201cBut Phil, what if it is my death? What if it\u2019s like this grandmother? What if it is my <em>death<\/em> that causes them to evaluate their life? I don\u2019t get to see them get right with God?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy response is: \u201cWell, wouldn\u2019t the next best thing\u2014being, one day, on the streets of heaven and the Son of God comes over and says: \u2018Have I got news for you! The child that broke your heart \/ the grandchild you thought would <em>never<\/em> make it\u2014they stood today and they blessed My name.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I have to believe, right now, this radio broadcast is falling on the ears of a prodigal or two. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMay it be today that you do business with God and decide to do what you need to do to be reconciled\u2014first to God\u2014and then, you know what? Just like the prodigal son\u2014the story that Jesus told\u2014<em>run<\/em> <em>home<\/em>! Find a way to beat a path home, and repent, and share with your Mom and Dad: \u201cI\u2019m here. I\u2019m back. I\u2019m ready to do business with you and with God.\u201d That really is what the Father\u2019s love is all about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s what every parent of a prodigal is longing for\u2014that day \/ that moment when a son or a daughter comes home and says, \u201cI\u2019m back.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPhil, I can\u2019t tell you the number of times, over the last decade, I\u2019ve talked to parents who are dealing with this issue. I know you\u2019ve talk to thousands or more than I have. But anytime I\u2019ve talked to somebody\u2014I have said, \u201cI want you to listen to this message from Phil Waldrep.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd by the way, in addition to the conversation we\u2019ve had with Phil here this week, if you\u2019d like to hear his audio presentation for parents of prodigals, you can go to our website at FamilyLifeToday.com and download that audio or listen to it\u2014stream it online if you\u2019d like. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, we\u2019ve got Phil\u2019s new book available as well. It\u2019s called <em>Reaching Your Prodigal: What Did I Do Wrong? What Do I Do Now?<\/em> Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to order <em>Reaching Your Prodigal<\/em>. You can order online, or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-358-6329, that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things we have been doing this year is spending time acknowledging important anniversaries\u2014listener\u2019s anniversaries \/ we\u2019ve even had some staff anniversaries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJust so happens, that today, we want to say, \u201cHappy anniversary!\u201d to Keith and Jonel Lynch, who are celebrating 31 years of marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh! Thirty-one years?! Who would have ever thought you\u2019d made it, Keith? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Keith is our Chief Engineer \/ Grand Poobah and the guy who covers a <em>multitude<\/em> of errors that we make, here, in the studio. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When did he get the title, \u201cGrand Poobah?!\u201d [Clapping]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2014I just gave it to him! [Clapping continues] [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Way to go, Keith!!\u201431 years! You\u2019ve got the silver \/ now go for the gold!!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We are The Proud Sponsors of Anniversaries<sup>\u2122<\/sup>. We think anniversaries matter\u2014they make a difference in a culture. When a couple says, \u201cWe\u2019re going the distance together,\u201d that makes a difference.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I performed a wedding, not too long ago, and had the grandparents\u2014from both sides\u2014and the parents stand up. We had 275 years of anniversaries\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s great!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014being celebrated as this new couple joined hands and hearts to begin their journey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s what I\u2019d like to challenge you with, as a listener. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you believe in the message of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014of covenant-keeping love for a lifetime, of equipping moms and dads to be better parents, of leaving a legacy for future generations\u2014then I need you to help us. We\u2019re a little short of the number of donors that we\u2019ve had in the first seven months of this year. In the month of August, I\u2019m coming to our listeners, saying: \u201cWill you help us and invest in <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>? When you do so, you\u2019re partnering with a life-changing ministry that is <em>indeed<\/em> transforming marriages and legacies for future generations.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We do want to be quick to say, \u201cThank you\u201d to our Legacy Partners and to those of you who have supported us this year. We couldn\u2019t do what we do without your support. As Dennis said, we\u2019re hoping that some of you, who have maybe been listening but have not yet donated this year, would you go to FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014make an online donation\u2014or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to donate?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr you can mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we want to talk with our friend, Josh McDowell. He\u2019s going to be here to talk about why tolerance is a good thing but it\u2019s not the best thing. There\u2019s something even better than teaching your kids to be tolerant. We\u2019ll explore that with Josh tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Don\u2019t miss these broadcasts. 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Phil Waldrep says some of the prayers we ought to be praying are hard prayers.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> There are several hard prayers, but let me emphasize two because of the two that I discovered God uses the most. The first is\u2014we pray as parents and as grandparents, \u201cLord, bring into the life of my prodigal someone who has a heart for You.\u201d Then the second prayer is probably the hardest prayer a parent will ever pray. It sounds easy, but it is not\u2014we say, \u201cLord, whatever it takes, I want You to do it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, August 17<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. Phil Waldrep joins us again today as we talk about how we can tell if a prodigal son or daughter is really turning a spiritual corner or is just looking to get bailed out of a jam. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ll explore that today. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We\u2019re talking this week about what I think may be the hardest issue parents have to face. In some ways, it would be easier, I think\u2014and maybe I\u2019m wrong about this\u2014but in some ways it would be easier to have a child go into heaven.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Yes. I get what you\u2019re saying, Bob. What you\u2019re talking about is being the parent of a prodigal.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I tell you what\u2014I just want to say to the listening audience\u2014our churches are filled with families who are grieving around a child in their family that\u2019s not doing well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I mean, it\u2019s just amazing how much shame there can be around this and how kind of underground parents go. When Barbara and I went through a period of time of struggling with one of our children, there was a group that formed\u2014<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014it wasn\u2019t called this\u2014but it became a POPs group\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014Parents of Prodigals. Those moms met religiously\u2014I mean, every week they would meet and they would get together and pray for one another. I\u2019m going to tell you something\u2014it was\u2014it was agony. It was\u2014I guess, as you were talking, Bob, I was thinking, \u201cWhat would I compare it to?\u201d It\u2019s like divorce. Divorce is a living rejection of another human being\u2014it\u2019s saying: \u201cI want out. I don\u2019t want you \/ I don\u2019t want your faith.\u201d Basically that\u2019s what a prodigal\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Prodigal has said, \u201cI\u2019m out.\u201d It\u2019s a divorce from the family.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. We\u2019ve got somebody with us whose head is nodding right here\u2014Phil Waldrep, who joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Welcome back Phil.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Thank you. It\u2019s <em>great<\/em> to be here.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> You\u2019ve written a book called <em>Reaching Your Prodigal<\/em>. You\u2019ve been in ministry for a number of years. You have an evangelistic ministry around the country. Have two children\u2014you and your wife have been married since 1984. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou ask two questions here, and I feel like we\u2019ve addressed the first question; but we haven\u2019t gotten to the second question that\u2019s on the cover of your book. Again, the title of the book is <em>Reaching Your Prodigal: What did I do wrong?<\/em>\u2014is the first question. The second one is: <em>What do I do now?<\/em>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat do you coach parents to do when they ask that second question and they\u2019re in the midst of the rejection? They\u2019re talking about what Bob is talking about\u2014they\u2019re hurting\u2014their child doesn\u2019t want their faith \/ doesn\u2019t want them and may even be hostile and maybe even abusive.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Well, there are several steps that I think parents need to take if they have a prodigal child. The first one may be the most important\u2014they need to address the guilt and the shame that they feel. They can do that by understanding that no parents are perfect and they realize that even Adam and Eve walked away from a perfect God who was perfect in every way. We sometimes feel shame and guilt. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf we do feel that guilt, then we are going to be <em>manipulated<\/em> by our prodigal. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe first thing we have to do is get in a position of <em>strength<\/em> rather than weakness. We ask the Lord, \u201cLord, reveal to me what I did wrong.\u201d Sometimes the Lord does show us what we do wrong. Sometimes the Lord may affirm that we really did <em>nothing<\/em> wrong\u2014certainly nothing intentional. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen we know there are barriers. I encourage parents to have a conversation with their prodigal if it is possible. There are cases where it isn\u2019t possible\u2014maybe the prodigal is so hardened, they refuse to talk to the parents. What if\u2014what if they can have that conversation?\u00a0 They need to prepare for the conversation \/ they need to <em>think<\/em> about it in advance and prepare their own heart. <em>Love<\/em> them unconditionally as they\u2019re going through the process and then make the decision to allow their prodigal to face the consequences of what they\u2019ve done.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So, if you were a dad sitting down with a son who\u2014let\u2019s just say this son has said, \u201cI\u2019m not going to church.\u201d We\u2019ll say he\u2019s got a decent job \/ got a girlfriend. You suspect they\u2019re sleeping together\u2014you don\u2019t know. You think your son may be drinking to excess\u2014you don\u2019t know. You call your son and say, \u201cCan we have lunch?\u201d and he\u2019s been a little off-putting; but he says, \u201cOkay. Yes; we can have lunch.\u201d What should that conversation at that lunch table be like, as a dad, with your son?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> I think, first of all, the one thing that I would address is\u2014I would try to find a very convenient time for the conversation to take place. If you haven\u2019t made it a regular habit of eating with your son and having lunch with him, all of a sudden, if you call and ask for lunch, red flags are going to go off in his mind. He\u2019s going to come in very guarded.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> I think sometimes you try to create a situation where it flows a little more naturally. I want to\u2014I understand the intent of your question\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> \u2014but I want to address that. When you start that conversation, I think you need to be in a \u201clistening\u201d mode rather than a \u201cspeaking\u201d mode\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> \u2014that you say to your prodigal son in this case: \u201cSon, I sense you\u2019re making some bad decisions. I want you to know I love you and I will <em>die<\/em> for you. I want to help you understand the consequences of what you\u2019re doing.\u201d Give them the freedom to speak into your life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I will hasten to say there are two distinct things I think we need to distinguish. There is a difference between a son, who\u2019s living at home under your roof, versus an adult child who\u2019s living away. That conversation and how that conversation may end can go two different directions. I think, when your child is at home, you have every right \/ in fact, a responsibility to set certain rules and to say to them, \u201cThis is the way we do it here at our house.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tStill needs to be a relationship\u2014doesn\u2019t just need to be rules for rules sake. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen that child lives outside of the home, you\u2019re not in a position to set those rules. The conversation will be a little bit different when you\u2014depending on whether they are at home or not. When you have that conversation, let them talk\u2014let them speak into your life. As parents, we\u2019re very quick to try to explain \/ we are very quick to try to correct. Sometimes, we need to remember our perspective, as a parent, and the perspective of a child\u2014two totally different perspectives. While we may think we were trying to work to get ahead so they have life better than we did, they may sense that it\u2019s rejection\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> \u2014that we didn\u2019t want to spend time with them. We need to have that conversation. We\u2019re honest in it, but we <em>listen<\/em>. Then, at the conclusion of that conversation, try to bring about some remedies\u2014to say, \u201cWell, why don\u2019t we do this?\u201d Lay it out and give them a chance to respond. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow I need to be very quick and tell parents\u2014they don\u2019t always respond.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> It doesn\u2019t always end with: \u201c\u2026and they lived happily ever after.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> It takes a <em>process<\/em>. It sometimes takes weeks and months to get there. The conversation is a good starting point.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> So we\u2019re having the conversation\u2014I say to my son: \u201cI just got to say I\u2019m watching you make some choices that I\u2019m concerned about \/\u00a0 some stuff I\u2019m not sure about; but I suspect that you may be this \/ may be that. I think these are bad life decisions. I think they\u2019re going to have an impact on you. I want to hear what your perspective on all of this is.\u201d He says: \u201cDad, I appreciate that. I\u2019m not in the same place where you and Mom are. I don\u2019t think drinking\u2019s a bad thing. I think as long as you love somebody, it\u2019s okay to be intimate with them. I\u2019ve looked at what you and Mom believe\u2014I\u2019m not sure I embrace it; in fact, I\u2019m pretty sure I don\u2019t. But I still appreciate you and Mom, and I just want you to let me live my life and kind of get off my back.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhat do I do at that point in that conversation? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> When a child makes a choice to walk away, they\u2019re the only one who makes the choice to come back into a right relationship with their heavenly Father. We can\u2019t force it nor can we rush it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> So we have to begin to pray: \u201cLord, give me wisdom as I parent this child \/ as I interact with this child. Help me, Lord, to do the right things. Help me to have the wisdom to do it.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow one of the things that I will share with you, Bob, that you said is\u2014you said, when you have that conversation: \u201cSon, I suspect you\u2019re doing\u2026\u201d I will be real honest with you\u2014I think it\u2019s healthy when we sit down with prodigals that we give them the opportunity to talk to us <em>before<\/em> we even make accusations. I think it\u2019s important that we don\u2019t believe everything our friends have told us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> That we allow our child to speak. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we can ask them, \u201cSon, are you drinking?\u201d\u2014as opposed to, \u201cI suspect you\u2019re drinking.\u201d It might sound like a\u2014little bit of a minor issue, but I think it goes to whether I am accusing or whether I\u2019m listening.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> Okay.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> I think that is a <em>healthy<\/em> conversation to let them have, and let them speak to you honestly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I would just add this\u2014if you do toss it out\u2014where they can begin to admit some things and they crack open the door\u2014realize that sin has a way of layering up. What you may hear initially is a safe confession around something that you might consider fairly minor \/ maybe your adult child considers minor. What I think happens with parents\u2014we\u2019re so quick to want to rush in and rescue the prodigal, who\u2019s now come home. We\u2019ve got to realize that they may not be fully home yet.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> And that peeling the layers of sin back in the child\u2019s life may be like peeling an onion. You may get one layer only to find there is another, and another, and another. They may already have begun to experience some of the consequences of their choices and may be scared and frightened but don\u2019t know how to ultimately blurt out, \u201cI\u2019m hooked on drugs,\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014or \u201cI\u2019ve gotten a girl pregnant,\u201d or \u201cI\u2019m pregnant.\u201d They fear rejection so much that to truly peel the onion back and deal with all of it in one setting \/ in one interaction is not likely to occur.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Very true. One thing I would add\u2014when you go to the story of the prodigal son\u2014that I love to reference because it\u2019s a wonderful story of a wonderful father\u2014remember the young man was in the pig pen. Now, in that story, he did have a heart change; but I have discovered that sometimes prodigals, in the pig pen, are hungry. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey go home, physically; but their heart is still in the pig pen. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt\u2019s important to remember that we may see a change in behavior in our prodigal without a change of <em>heart<\/em>. That\u2019s when it\u2019s important, Dennis\u2014what I think you\u2019re addressing\u2014is that we need to make sure that, as our kids begin to share with us where they\u2019ve been, and the pig pens where they\u2019ve been, and the experiences they\u2019ve had, that we listen without condemnation. It doesn\u2019t mean we\u2019ll approve\u2014in fact, when I research prodigals, I discovered that a lot of them\u2014they know what they\u2019re doing wrong\u2014you don\u2019t have to tell them it\u2019s wrong.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> They already know\u2014their parents have taught them that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSometimes, they want the <em>safe zone<\/em>\u2014where they can say to a mom and dad: \u201cHey, I\u2019ve got a problem here. I am a drug addict.\u201d As parents, we don\u2019t need to react to that with words of condemnation and say: \u201cI knew it! I knew it! I can\u2019t believe you did\u2026\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tInstead to say: \u201cSon\u2014that took a lot of courage to say that to me. You know I love you, and let\u2019s walk through this together.\u201d That\u2019s a whole different reaction from the prodigal as opposed to, \u201cOh, this is embarrassing Mom and Dad.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> At that point there may need to be an intervention.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> If you\u2019re dealing with a child who has a substance abuse problem, you have to realize, as a parent, you may not be able to pull the child out of the ditch. It may come to a point that the child becomes so abusive \/ the child is so out of it that you literally have to set up a set of circumstances to ultimately say to the child: \u201cIt\u2019s time to go address a very serious problem. This is a life and death issue. We\u2019re going to give you one chance to address it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf anybody, who\u2019s been off in the rehab sub-culture that takes place in the drug world, you know that 80 percent of all kids, who get off into drugs go to a rehab unit\u201480 percent relapse\u2014they struggle with it again. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ve got to know, as a parent, when to let out the line \/ give them more rope, as you said earlier, and when to be there and say: \u201cLet\u2019s keep the boundaries up. Let\u2019s know how to deal with this,\u201d and to rebuild trust one day at a time.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We are talking about prodigals with Phil Waldrep. He\u2019s written a book called <em>Reaching Your Prodigal: What Did I Do Wrong? What Do I Do Now?<\/em> \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou talked about praying for wisdom if a child says, \u201cThis is just where I am,\u201d and \u201cI\u2019m going to keep living my life this way,\u201d and \u201cCan I bring my girlfriend home for Christmas?\u201d and \u201cCan she stay in my room with me?\u201d and all kinds of questions that \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tparents have to wrestle with. You, in your book, talk about some of the hard prayers that you think parents need to be ready to pray. This comes from seeing what God has used to crack the heart of a prodigal; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> That\u2019s right. Well, there are several hard prayers; but let me emphasize two because of the two that I discovered God uses the most. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe first is\u2014we pray, as parents and as grandparents, \u201cLord, bring into the life of my prodigal someone who has a heart for You.\u201d Then, when you find those people, don\u2019t try to manipulate the relationship; but encourage them.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen the second prayer is probably the hardest prayer a parent will ever pray. It sounds easy, but it\u2019s not\u2014we say, \u201cLord, whatever it takes, I want You to do it.\u201d When we pray those words, we often think about the brokenness in the life of our prodigal, but what if God wants to do something in <em>our<\/em> life to get the attention of the prodigal?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I researched prodigals and I talked with prodigals, who recently had gotten right with God, I asked them, \u201cWhat was it that caused you to evaluate your life?\u201d The most common response surprised me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey said, \u201cIt was the sickness and death of a parent or grandparent that made me evaluate my life.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen I heard that from so many prodigals\u2014because it was like, at that moment, they realized\u2014this relationship with Mom and Dad, or a grandparent, sometimes a brother or sister\u2014but there was someone who died or someone who was very ill\u2014I then realized, \u201cLord, am I willing, as a parent to say, \u2018Lord, if You need to take me to glory \/ You need to take me to heaven, I want You to do it if it gets the attention of my prodigal.\u2019\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, I\u2019m not saying to anyone listening to us today, \u201cThe Lord\u2019s going to take you home to heaven,\u201d but here\u2019s what I have discovered\u2014when you\u2019re willing to say, \u201cLord, whatever it takes\u2026\u201d\u2014all the other stuff is easy. When we\u2019re willing to say: \u201cLord, I come with open hands. Whatever it takes to get the attention of my prodigal, I want You to do it. If I have to walk through suffering \/ if I have to die, I want You to do it.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen we can pray <em>that<\/em> prayer\u2014and mean it\u2014then I think God begins to get <em>our<\/em> heart into position, as parents, to reach out to the prodigal; because remember\u2014God sometimes needs to change <em>us<\/em> before He can work in our prodigal.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2019ll never forget talking to a young man, who was loved by his grandmother while he was a full-blown prodigal. He said, \u201cMy grandmother never preached at me, and she could have!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThen I recall going to a funeral in the past couple of years, where a grandmother died. She asked her granddaughter, at her funeral, to read Scriptures. Well, this grandmother had been trying to reach this granddaughter and had been using these Scriptures to call her back to her faith; and she had resisted. I knew the granddaughter was struggling with her faith. I was at the funeral; and I sat there, watching this and I thought, \u201cWhat a genius of a grandmother!\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe assigned the granddaughter to read the same passages of Scripture that she had been quoting to her and calling her back to. Now, at her death, she had assigned the granddaughter to read those passages. The granddaughter wept \/ cried her way through those verses. You just had to wonder: \u201cWhat is going on in her life and how will God use the death of her grandmother to perhaps bring her back to the faith that she\u2019d grown up in?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> I have heard so many stories, where the wisdom of the grandparent\u2014I don\u2019t know if I\u2019ve heard of one where they actually had them read the Scripture\u2014but it\u2019s <em>brilliant<\/em> because it is the Word of God that brings conviction and brings change. Having her read those words at her grandmother\u2019s memorial service\u2014no doubt in my mind\u2014God was using the death of that grandmother to bring about brokenness in her own life.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI today just want to encourage listeners because you have a son or a daughter \/ you have a grandchild and maybe you\u2019re willing to say today: \u201cLord, whatever it takes. I\u2019m willing to do it.\u201d And yet you want to respond: \u201cBut Phil, what if it is my death? What if it\u2019s like this grandmother? What if it is my <em>death<\/em> that causes them to evaluate their life? I don\u2019t get to see them get right with God?\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy response is: \u201cWell, wouldn\u2019t the next best thing\u2014being, one day, on the streets of heaven and the Son of God comes over and says: \u2018Have I got news for you! The child that broke your heart \/ the grandchild you thought would <em>never<\/em> make it\u2014they stood today and they blessed My name.\u2019\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I have to believe, right now, this radio broadcast is falling on the ears of a prodigal or two. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMay it be today that you do business with God and decide to do what you need to do to be reconciled\u2014first to God\u2014and then, you know what? Just like the prodigal son\u2014the story that Jesus told\u2014<em>run<\/em> <em>home<\/em>! Find a way to beat a path home, and repent, and share with your Mom and Dad: \u201cI\u2019m here. I\u2019m back. I\u2019m ready to do business with you and with God.\u201d That really is what the Father\u2019s love is all about.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Phil:<\/strong> Right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s what every parent of a prodigal is longing for\u2014that day \/ that moment when a son or a daughter comes home and says, \u201cI\u2019m back.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tPhil, I can\u2019t tell you the number of times, over the last decade, I\u2019ve talked to parents who are dealing with this issue. I know you\u2019ve talk to thousands or more than I have. But anytime I\u2019ve talked to somebody\u2014I have said, \u201cI want you to listen to this message from Phil Waldrep.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd by the way, in addition to the conversation we\u2019ve had with Phil here this week, if you\u2019d like to hear his audio presentation for parents of prodigals, you can go to our website at FamilyLifeToday.com and download that audio or listen to it\u2014stream it online if you\u2019d like. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOf course, we\u2019ve got Phil\u2019s new book available as well. It\u2019s called <em>Reaching Your Prodigal: What Did I Do Wrong? What Do I Do Now?<\/em> Go to FamilyLifeToday.com to order <em>Reaching Your Prodigal<\/em>. You can order online, or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to order. Again, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-358-6329, that\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things we have been doing this year is spending time acknowledging important anniversaries\u2014listener\u2019s anniversaries \/ we\u2019ve even had some staff anniversaries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJust so happens, that today, we want to say, \u201cHappy anniversary!\u201d to Keith and Jonel Lynch, who are celebrating 31 years of marriage. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Oh! Thirty-one years?! Who would have ever thought you\u2019d made it, Keith? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Keith is our Chief Engineer \/ Grand Poobah and the guy who covers a <em>multitude<\/em> of errors that we make, here, in the studio. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> When did he get the title, \u201cGrand Poobah?!\u201d [Clapping]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I\u2014I just gave it to him! [Clapping continues] [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> Way to go, Keith!!\u201431 years! You\u2019ve got the silver \/ now go for the gold!!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We are The Proud Sponsors of Anniversaries<sup>\u2122<\/sup>. We think anniversaries matter\u2014they make a difference in a culture. When a couple says, \u201cWe\u2019re going the distance together,\u201d that makes a difference.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> I performed a wedding, not too long ago, and had the grandparents\u2014from both sides\u2014and the parents stand up. We had 275 years of anniversaries\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> That\u2019s great!\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014being celebrated as this new couple joined hands and hearts to begin their journey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHere\u2019s what I\u2019d like to challenge you with, as a listener. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you believe in the message of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014of covenant-keeping love for a lifetime, of equipping moms and dads to be better parents, of leaving a legacy for future generations\u2014then I need you to help us. We\u2019re a little short of the number of donors that we\u2019ve had in the first seven months of this year. In the month of August, I\u2019m coming to our listeners, saying: \u201cWill you help us and invest in <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>? When you do so, you\u2019re partnering with a life-changing ministry that is <em>indeed<\/em> transforming marriages and legacies for future generations.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob:<\/strong> We do want to be quick to say, \u201cThank you\u201d to our Legacy Partners and to those of you who have supported us this year. We couldn\u2019t do what we do without your support. As Dennis said, we\u2019re hoping that some of you, who have maybe been listening but have not yet donated this year, would you go to FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014make an online donation\u2014or call 1-800-FL-TODAY to donate?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOr you can mail your donation to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>, PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we want to talk with our friend, Josh McDowell. He\u2019s going to be here to talk about why tolerance is a good thing but it\u2019s not the best thing. There\u2019s something even better than teaching your kids to be tolerant. We\u2019ll explore that with Josh tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Don\u2019t miss these broadcasts. It\u2019s going to help <em>you<\/em> know how to think in this culture but also train your kids too.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch\u2014\u201cHappy anniversary!\u201d\u2014and our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tHelp for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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