{"id":304070,"date":"2016-07-05T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-07-05T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/from-broken-to-beautiful\/"},"modified":"2016-07-05T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2016-07-05T15:00:00","slug":"from-broken-to-beautiful","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/from-broken-to-beautiful\/","title":{"rendered":"From Broken to Beautiful"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jerry and Kate Angelo reflect on the issues that thwarted their first marriages, and remember with gratitude the circumstances that brought them back to God and to each other.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2016-07-05.mp3","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"27.98M","filesize_raw":"29336238","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2888,2894],"tags":[2585,2732],"podcast_series":[8151],"cwp_profile":[9427,3300],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-304070","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-multiple-home-realities","category-stepfamily-living","tag-blended-family","tag-remarriage","podcast_series-the-complex-world-of-a-blended-family","cwp_profile-jerry-and-kate-angelo","cwp_profile-ron-deal","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/304070\/from-broken-to-beautiful","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/304070\/from-broken-to-beautiful","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"arr5AYPibC\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/from-broken-to-beautiful\/\">From Broken to Beautiful<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/from-broken-to-beautiful\/embed\/#?secret=arr5AYPibC\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;From Broken to Beautiful&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"arr5AYPibC\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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They knew that there\u2019d be challenges ahead, but they also began that blended family with a lot of hope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>We were blending well in these moments, and the children were feeling comfortable calling me \u201cDad.\u201d I think, at that moment, I started to notice some issues because the biological father of Kate\u2019s boys was, I don\u2019t think, very happy about that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, July 5<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll hear today from Jerry and Kate Angelo about some of the challenges they faced as they tried to form a new family \/ a blended family. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We\u2019ve talked many times about how marriage can be a challenge. When you add to that the layer of a blended marriage \/ a blended family, the degree of difficulty for that marriage goes up significantly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Way up. I\u2019d have to say I really owe Ron Deal a great deal of thanks around this\u2014to help me understand and the team, here at FamilyLife \/ I mean, our speaker team that speaks at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaways have all been sensitized to the needs of blended families. Ron has been working, here at FamilyLife, giving leadership to the blended family initiative and holds a summit each year. In fact, the summit is coming up here in a couple of months; right, Ron?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>It will be coming up in Colorado Springs this year, September 29 and 30.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And it\u2019s a summit for those who give leadership to blended family ministry and churches.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>\u2014and anybody who wants to understand stepfamilies better\u2014children\u2019s ministry, pastors, youth pastors, senior ministers, all the way down to lay couples who are wanting to just make a difference in the lives of families.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. If folks want information on the summit on stepfamily ministry and would like to attend, they can go to our website at FamilyLifeToday.com; and the information is available there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou brought a couple with you today because what we want to talk about\u2014this couple has been living through.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>Yes; exactly. FamilyLife Blended<sup>\u2122<\/sup>, the ministry here of FamilyLife to stepfamilies, is heavily invested in helping families around the world and helping churches understand stepfamilies. Today, we have Jerry and Kate Angelo that are with us. Welcome to the broadcast.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>Thank you so much.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>Jerry and Kate are founders and directors of Marriage Awakening in their hometown of Springfield, Missouri. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey speak at marriage enrichment events around the country and lead a local marriage enrichment ministry, right there, in the Springfield area. Again, we\u2019re so glad that you\u2019re with us today.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>Thank you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>A blended marriage is a part of your background. You guys married in 2006\u2014both of you had been previously married. Jerry, you grew up, going to church at the Catholic church. When you married, you thought, \u201cThis is for life,\u201d because that\u2019s what you\u2019d learned; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>That\u2019s exactly right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, how long did it take for you, in your first marriage, before you saw, \u201cThere are problems here, and I don\u2019t know if we can make it\u201d?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>Well, you know, there\u2019s always ups and downs and struggles in your marriage, but we were married for about seven years\u2014there were some struggles that we were going through. I had a very successful career in Tulsa. To businesses out there\u2014it was a great boom in technology, followed by a subsequent bust. I became a victim, so to speak, of that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere were lots of layoffs. The company that I was working for went Chapter 11. Anytime that there\u2019s a financial strain on a marriage like that, there is definitely bound to be some issues.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Of course, the financial strain really was just a layer on top of what were already cracks in the foundation of your marriage; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>That\u2019s exactly right.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Had you been a workaholic?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>I\u2019m sure at times I was; yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So you hadn\u2019t paid attention to your wife.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>Yes, I was definitely not being the godly man, and husband, and leader that I should have. Although, I think sometimes we get deceived and blinded in a culture, where we\u2019re putting ourselves number one\u2014we think that we\u2019re really providing for our families when we\u2019re really not.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>At this point in your marriage, there wasn\u2019t a real, solid, spiritual foundation to what was going on with both of you; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>Right. You know, although that Catholic background I had, there was always something missing there\u2014that I had never really allowed the Lord to lead me the way that I should have been going.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Kate, you grew up with no spiritual foundation at all. In fact, you were in the foster system by the time you were a teenager.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>Yes; that\u2019s right. I didn\u2019t have the same spiritual background, whether it was Catholic or anything else. For me, going to church was more of an escape from my home rather than getting a spiritual foundation for me.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So your first marriage\u2014tell us that story.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>We were married in a church, and we were very young. I was only 18 when we got married; but because I\u2019d been living a difficult childhood, I think I felt like I was more adult than I really was. I ultimately say that neither one of us really had an idea of what to expect in marriage or what a marriage should look like. For me, my mother had been married multiple times, and I knew that didn\u2019t want to have that; but I think that I worked toward that in my own power and not giving it over to God in any way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How long before that marriage really ran into trouble? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>I would say that we ran into trouble probably about four or five years into it. It was mostly because we had been growing apart for some time\u2014both of us working a lot of hours and really just trying to focus on earning money rather than focusing on our marriage in any way.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You had two kids by the time your first marriage ended. You told me earlier that it was the end of the first marriage that really kind of opened the door for you to begin to consider things about life and God that you\u2019d never considered before.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>Right. And actually for me, I kind of felt like, growing up as a foster child and having such an abusive background of my own, that I wasn\u2019t really worthy of becoming a Christian because, to me, it was an image of what a Christian should look like\u2014it should be people who stay married \/ people who grew up in church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnytime I had dealings with the church, it just felt like that was for other people and not for me. It wasn\u2019t until after my divorce that I became a Christian.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>You know, as I listen to Kate talk, I\u2019m thinking of many conversations that I\u2019ve had, Dennis, where people are talking about the shame of their life and their sense of unworthiness to even come to the throne of grace and receive grace. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things we want people, listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>,to know is that\u2014my goodness\u2014our God is a redemptive God. He loves and forgives, and He receives us. He\u2019s not afraid of using the difficulties of our life\u2014like a divorce\u2014to get a hold of us, to grab our attention, to draw us closer to Him, and to then knit us back together again. You know what I mean?\u2014to rebuild us and take us from where we\u2019re at.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen that shame keeps people from giving themselves to the Lord, it doesn\u2019t need to be the case. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt can be that you finally turn that over to God. How did that work for you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>Well, for me, I think it was a continually running. I kind of ran from God a lot. I really just had Him giving me people in my life, who were planting seeds along the way; but I really didn\u2019t have even one Christian friend that I could say would be a good mentor that I could go to and talk to. I had some friends who were Christians, but I wouldn\u2019t necessarily think that they were giving me the best advice\u2014so it wasn\u2019t that interesting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, one of the reasons that I got divorced was a Christian person telling me: \u201cGod wants you to be happy. You\u2019ll be happier when you\u2019re divorced than you are right now. That\u2019s what God wants for you\u2014He wants you to be happy.\u201d I fully believe that that\u2019s a lie of the enemy. If someone is telling you that in your current marriage, you really need to get away from that person, and seek God, and find somebody who\u2019s going to tell you the truth of the situation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I mean, that\u2019s the exact opposite counsel you should be getting from someone who is a follower of Christ. The ministry He\u2019s given us, as followers of Christ, is a ministry of reconciliation. He talks about it in 2 Corinthians, Chapter 5, where it says, \u201cAll of this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to Himself.\u201d We should be all about helping people get reconciled to God <em>and<\/em> be a part of reconciling other people to one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut Ron, in a situation like this, it leaves two broken people hopefully open, at that point, to come to faith in Christ. If they do, there is hope for that situation; isn\u2019t there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>Absolutely. You run to the end of your road and realize it\u2019s a dead end. Sometimes, you\u2019re open to God in ways you never were before; and obviously that was something that happened with you. Meanwhile, you have life going on. You have two kids\u2014each of you had two kids\u2014and now, as single parents, trying to do that \/ trying to do the co-parenting with your ex-spouses\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014there\u2019s a lot of complexity to that; isn\u2019t there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; I\u2019m just wondering about 2005. You\u2019re both single parents with two kids, you\u2019re both trying to hold down jobs, and keep everything working together. There\u2019s been something happening spiritually in both of your lives. In fact, you met at church; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Were you looking for another marriage when the two of you met one another?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>Definitely not at first.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>But I think that\u2019s an interesting question because Jerry and I were both preparing our hearts to be married again. It\u2019s not that we were seeking someone in the normal way. I think we both were praying that\u2014we wanted to do things God\u2019s way. That\u2019s what we were looking for\u2014someone else who was willing to put God first in their life and in their marriage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Ron, pick up on what you said because there is a difference between wanting to get married again and looking to try to get ready, should God open that door; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, one of the things we\u2019ve said before on this broadcast is: \u201cYou know you\u2019re ready to date again when you don\u2019t <em>need<\/em> to date again\u2014when you\u2019re in that place of listening to God, and working on who He has called you to be, and just trying to grow in your character as a follower of Christ.\u201d That\u2019s a really neat place for something to happen in your life, but you\u2019re not out there necessarily just chasing that left and right. You\u2019re listening.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Ron, that <em>says<\/em> \u201ceasy\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014but to someone, who\u2019s a single parent, that <em>does<\/em> hard. I mean, you\u2019re looking for someone to share the burden and the load with you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>Yes. And I imagine you guys can relate to that; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>You know, I like what you said earlier about how God can take the broken and make something beautiful out of that. It wasn\u2019t exactly what you said, but I think that was the sense of what you were going for. For me, personally\u2014my job was taken away from me \/ my finances. It was like one thing after the other was slowly being stripped from me. My marriage had ended\u2014I still had the children at this time\u2014but it was very difficult.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere was a time where I had $200 in my checking account. I had rent coming up, and it was Christmas. I didn\u2019t know what I was going to do. I didn\u2019t know how I was going to meet the needs of my family. Here I was\u2014coming from one of the best IT jobs in the region to nothing. The Lord allowed all of those things to be stripped from me, and that\u2019s where He began to rebuild me from scratch.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLooking back today, it sounds silly; but I\u2019m so thankful for that. He built me up from the ground up, and I wanted to do things His way. I had already tried it my way\u2014which, again, I was deceived. I thought I was doing what I should have been doing, but I wasn\u2019t putting the Lord first. I was really\u2014I had a god in His place.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We\u2019re talking with Jerry and Kate Angelo today, along with Ron Deal, as we talk about challenges that blended couples can face. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKate, I\u2019m just wondering\u2014when you met Jerry, and you guys started to click and you thought, \u201cHmm, maybe this is what God has for us,\u201d\u2014do you think you understood the challenges that would be on the other side of that if the two of you were to become husband and wife?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>Honestly, I don\u2019t think that either one of us really anticipated what those challenges would be. I know that the obvious answer is, \u201cYes,\u201d because it\u2019s difficult for us to get our kids together to do things, or for us to go out on a date because I might have my children and he might have his children\u2014and you don\u2019t want to lose time with your children whenever you\u2019re a single parent\u2014you want to optimize the time that they\u2019re not with you that you can do something for yourself. So those were the challenges, I think, that we looked at. It wasn\u2019t until right around the time we were about to get married\u2014a couple of months\u2014that I could really see some of the other challenges rising up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>What kinds of things could you see?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>I could see that, in some cases, the relationship that he had with his ex-wife was a little bit different \/ a little more volatile. There was still a lot of hurt. It was also a lot newer for him, as I had been divorced a little bit longer. I think they were still transitioning into learning how to co-parent together. I also think there was the distance from him with his children. I know we mentioned earlier that he would call his children every single night. I mean, sometimes, if we were hanging out together, he would step away to call his children, whether he was able to talk to them or not\u2014they\u2019re three and four years old. I was thinking, \u201cWhat kind of guy would call his children, who can barely even talk on the phone?\u201d and yet he did that. That showed me something in his character that I knew I could fall in love with.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How old were your children at the time?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>Our children are very close in age. I believe, by the time we got married, they were eight, seven, five, and four. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019re very close in age.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What were they thinking about all this dating that you two were doing?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>You know, we got along really well. It was a really fun time for all of us because we were all excited. There were a lot of new things going on, and the kids were able to play together. So we did a lot of fun things back then \/ again, still now\u2014but we really wanted to make sure that we put our relationship first after God; but then we also were very involved with family and spending time with the children because it was valuable to us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>One of the things I\u2019ve heard from couples in your situation is that they often are blind-sided by the reaction of the kids to a marriage because, during the dating \/ the courtship time, it all feels <em>great<\/em> \/ the kids are loving it. It just feels like that\u2019s going to be: \u201cOf all of the problems we might have, the kids aren\u2019t going to be the problem.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut it\u2019s like you come home from the wedding and somebody flipped a switch in the kids. All of a sudden\u2014Ron, am I right that this is what happens?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>It\u2019s a very common experience for people. Somewhere, in the first six months or so, they kind of hit head-on into those realities. Is that something you experienced?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>You know, for us, I think\u2014instead of it being an instant light switch\u2014for us, it may have been a little bit of a dimmer because, at first, all of us were excited. It was a great moment for all of us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKate and I\u2014we actually, when we got married\u2014we had a very small ceremony with our pastor and just a few friends, and then, we went on our honeymoon for a week or so. Then, when we came back, we had a family union celebration, where we invited all of our extended family. Instead of getting bridesmaids and groomsmen, our children participated in that event. We just wanted to be a positive example to others. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThings went really well in the beginning. We even sat down and talked to our kids and explained some things about how I was not going to try to replace anybody as their father and Kate was going to replace anybody as their mother\u2014\u2014you know, \u201cYou can call us whatever is comfortable for you,\u201d within reason and in a respectful way; right? [Laughter] But we really tried to set things at ease. For awhile, things went really well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And Jerry, you experienced something else with her former husband. Initially, he started out, seeming like you were on the same page\u2014caring for his children that he had fathered\u2014and yet, later on, it moved into more of a competitive spirit between you and him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>Yes; that\u2019s right. I had met him and talked with him a little bit, and even had a phone conversation on occasion. It was very positive. We were blending well in these moments. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe children were feeling comfortable calling me, \u201cDad.\u201d I think, at that moment, I started to notice some issues on that side because the biological father of Kate\u2019s boys, I don\u2019t think, was very happy about that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>He was happy to have you in the picture; but pretty soon, it started to feel like you were muscling him out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>Yes; you know, as we began to bond closer together, it was like maybe there was some tension there that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019re speaking of your relationship with his kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>That\u2019s right; yes. As we began to bond closer to one another, I think that there was a bit of a competition maybe taking place that I was unaware of. It really had an impact in our ongoing relationship with the children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Ron, is there a way to anticipate\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>No. [Laughter] You would think, \u201cYes; surely Ron has an answer that will help everybody anticipate that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNo; actually, there\u2019s a phenomenon we call the \u201cdivorce-activated dad\u201d and the \u201cremarriage-activated dad\u201d\u2014who sometimes is involved with his kid\u2019s life and maybe peripheral to their life\u2014but then, when a stepfather, like Jerry, comes into the scene\u2014and, \u201cWow! My kids like him, and that feels like a threat to me,\u201d\u2014all of a sudden, they\u2019re more involved, and more invested, and really sometimes invested in prohibiting their kids from really falling deeply in love with the stepfather. So the competition comes out of nowhere, sometimes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There\u2019s a lot more to explore in this, and we\u2019re going to spend time this week doing that. This is deep water, Dennis.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, I\u2019m listening to your story; and I\u2019m seeing you both smile. You guys are in the midst of a blended family, making it work, and actually ministering to other people. There can be a lot of really good things that come out of a blended family; but every time I set foot into this arena, talking about blended families, Ron, I pull back and I go, \u201cThis is a great apologetic for making your marriage go the distance <em>if<\/em> you possibly can.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, in your situation, neither one of you knew Christ\u2014and the reality and the hope of that occurring was probably not going to be great\u2014but when you can get two people to bow their necks and their wills before Almighty God and make their marriage go the distance, that is the preferred way a house should be built.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>I think that\u2019s the <em>only<\/em> way that we saw success\u2014is to lay our lives down daily\u2014because there were daily challenges along the way. We had to do that\u2014we had to lay our lives down and put Him first because, when we did that, then He was able to work in our lives, and He was able to do the things that we were called to do, and He was able to add all those things unto us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And then on top of that foundation, you can then employ strategies like you talk about in your book, Ron, <em>The Smart Stepfamily<\/em>\u2014strategies that can help you live out your faith, live out your convictions, and live at peace because that\u2019s part of what you\u2019re aiming for here: \u201cAs much as it depends on you,\u201d\u2014 Romans 12:18 says\u2014\u201cbe at peace with all men.\u201d I think that applies in blended family dynamics and situations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, I want to commend to our listeners the books that Ron Deal has written\u2014<em>The Smart Stepfamily, The Smart Stepmom, The Smart Stepdad<\/em>\u2014all of these books provide you with wise biblical counsel on how you can build strong, healthy relationships in blended families. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information on how you can get copies of Ron Deal\u2019s books. Again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com. There\u2019s also a link, online, for those of you who would like to know more about the Angelos\u2019 story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. If you\u2019re interested in ordering the books by phone, our toll-free number is 1-800-FL-TODAY. That\u2019s 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, this week we\u2019ve celebrated already the birthday of our country\u2014July 4, 1776, the day that the Declaration of Independence was signed and ratified. We mark that as a significant day in the history of our country. We think wedding anniversaries are significant days in the history of every family. We are the Proud Sponsor of Anniversaries<sup>\u2122<\/sup> as we seek to provide practical biblical help and hope for your marriage and your anniversary. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, all year long, we\u2019ve had people signing up to get anniversary ideas from us that we have been sending out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThirty days before your anniversary comes around, we send you ideas \/ suggestions on how your anniversary can be extra special this year. If you\u2019ve not signed up to receive those, and you have an anniversary coming up in the second half of this year, go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com\u2014give us your name and anniversary date\u2014and we\u2019ll get those ideas out to you as your anniversary rolls around.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet me just add a \u201cThank you,\u201d again, to those of you who support this ministry and partner with us as we seek to provide practical biblical help and hope for marriages and families. You\u2019re a part of making that mission possible if you\u2019re a Legacy Partner or someone who will occasionally make a gift to support this ministry.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tRight now, you can give online at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to make a gift over the phone. Or, if it\u2019s easier, just write a check and mail it to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd \u201cThank you,\u201d in advance, for your ongoing support of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we hope you can join us back tomorrow as we continue to talk about the challenges that blended families face, and especially some of the challenges that the kids face in a blended family situation. Hope you can tune in for that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. 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They knew that there\u2019d be challenges ahead, but they also began that blended family with a lot of hope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>We were blending well in these moments, and the children were feeling comfortable calling me \u201cDad.\u201d I think, at that moment, I started to notice some issues because the biological father of Kate\u2019s boys was, I don\u2019t think, very happy about that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, July 5<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I'm Bob Lepine. We\u2019ll hear today from Jerry and Kate Angelo about some of the challenges they faced as they tried to form a new family \/ a blended family. Stay with us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. We\u2019ve talked many times about how marriage can be a challenge. When you add to that the layer of a blended marriage \/ a blended family, the degree of difficulty for that marriage goes up significantly.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Way up. I\u2019d have to say I really owe Ron Deal a great deal of thanks around this\u2014to help me understand and the team, here at FamilyLife \/ I mean, our speaker team that speaks at the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaways have all been sensitized to the needs of blended families. Ron has been working, here at FamilyLife, giving leadership to the blended family initiative and holds a summit each year. 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You told me earlier that it was the end of the first marriage that really kind of opened the door for you to begin to consider things about life and God that you\u2019d never considered before.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>Right. And actually for me, I kind of felt like, growing up as a foster child and having such an abusive background of my own, that I wasn\u2019t really worthy of becoming a Christian because, to me, it was an image of what a Christian should look like\u2014it should be people who stay married \/ people who grew up in church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnytime I had dealings with the church, it just felt like that was for other people and not for me. It wasn\u2019t until after my divorce that I became a Christian.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>You know, as I listen to Kate talk, I\u2019m thinking of many conversations that I\u2019ve had, Dennis, where people are talking about the shame of their life and their sense of unworthiness to even come to the throne of grace and receive grace. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOne of the things we want people, listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>,to know is that\u2014my goodness\u2014our God is a redemptive God. He loves and forgives, and He receives us. He\u2019s not afraid of using the difficulties of our life\u2014like a divorce\u2014to get a hold of us, to grab our attention, to draw us closer to Him, and to then knit us back together again. You know what I mean?\u2014to rebuild us and take us from where we\u2019re at.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWhen that shame keeps people from giving themselves to the Lord, it doesn\u2019t need to be the case. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt can be that you finally turn that over to God. How did that work for you?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>Well, for me, I think it was a continually running. I kind of ran from God a lot. I really just had Him giving me people in my life, who were planting seeds along the way; but I really didn\u2019t have even one Christian friend that I could say would be a good mentor that I could go to and talk to. I had some friends who were Christians, but I wouldn\u2019t necessarily think that they were giving me the best advice\u2014so it wasn\u2019t that interesting. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, one of the reasons that I got divorced was a Christian person telling me: \u201cGod wants you to be happy. You\u2019ll be happier when you\u2019re divorced than you are right now. That\u2019s what God wants for you\u2014He wants you to be happy.\u201d I fully believe that that\u2019s a lie of the enemy. If someone is telling you that in your current marriage, you really need to get away from that person, and seek God, and find somebody who\u2019s going to tell you the truth of the situation.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I mean, that\u2019s the exact opposite counsel you should be getting from someone who is a follower of Christ. The ministry He\u2019s given us, as followers of Christ, is a ministry of reconciliation. He talks about it in 2 Corinthians, Chapter 5, where it says, \u201cAll of this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to Himself.\u201d We should be all about helping people get reconciled to God <em>and<\/em> be a part of reconciling other people to one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut Ron, in a situation like this, it leaves two broken people hopefully open, at that point, to come to faith in Christ. If they do, there is hope for that situation; isn\u2019t there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>Absolutely. You run to the end of your road and realize it\u2019s a dead end. Sometimes, you\u2019re open to God in ways you never were before; and obviously that was something that happened with you. Meanwhile, you have life going on. You have two kids\u2014each of you had two kids\u2014and now, as single parents, trying to do that \/ trying to do the co-parenting with your ex-spouses\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014there\u2019s a lot of complexity to that; isn\u2019t there?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; I\u2019m just wondering about 2005. You\u2019re both single parents with two kids, you\u2019re both trying to hold down jobs, and keep everything working together. There\u2019s been something happening spiritually in both of your lives. In fact, you met at church; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Were you looking for another marriage when the two of you met one another?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>Definitely not at first.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>But I think that\u2019s an interesting question because Jerry and I were both preparing our hearts to be married again. It\u2019s not that we were seeking someone in the normal way. I think we both were praying that\u2014we wanted to do things God\u2019s way. That\u2019s what we were looking for\u2014someone else who was willing to put God first in their life and in their marriage.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Ron, pick up on what you said because there is a difference between wanting to get married again and looking to try to get ready, should God open that door; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>Absolutely. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, one of the things we\u2019ve said before on this broadcast is: \u201cYou know you\u2019re ready to date again when you don\u2019t <em>need<\/em> to date again\u2014when you\u2019re in that place of listening to God, and working on who He has called you to be, and just trying to grow in your character as a follower of Christ.\u201d That\u2019s a really neat place for something to happen in your life, but you\u2019re not out there necessarily just chasing that left and right. You\u2019re listening.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Ron, that <em>says<\/em> \u201ceasy\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>Yes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis:<\/strong> \u2014but to someone, who\u2019s a single parent, that <em>does<\/em> hard. I mean, you\u2019re looking for someone to share the burden and the load with you.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>Yes. And I imagine you guys can relate to that; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>You know, I like what you said earlier about how God can take the broken and make something beautiful out of that. It wasn\u2019t exactly what you said, but I think that was the sense of what you were going for. For me, personally\u2014my job was taken away from me \/ my finances. It was like one thing after the other was slowly being stripped from me. My marriage had ended\u2014I still had the children at this time\u2014but it was very difficult.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere was a time where I had $200 in my checking account. I had rent coming up, and it was Christmas. I didn\u2019t know what I was going to do. I didn\u2019t know how I was going to meet the needs of my family. Here I was\u2014coming from one of the best IT jobs in the region to nothing. The Lord allowed all of those things to be stripped from me, and that\u2019s where He began to rebuild me from scratch.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLooking back today, it sounds silly; but I\u2019m so thankful for that. He built me up from the ground up, and I wanted to do things His way. I had already tried it my way\u2014which, again, I was deceived. I thought I was doing what I should have been doing, but I wasn\u2019t putting the Lord first. I was really\u2014I had a god in His place.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We\u2019re talking with Jerry and Kate Angelo today, along with Ron Deal, as we talk about challenges that blended couples can face. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKate, I\u2019m just wondering\u2014when you met Jerry, and you guys started to click and you thought, \u201cHmm, maybe this is what God has for us,\u201d\u2014do you think you understood the challenges that would be on the other side of that if the two of you were to become husband and wife?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>Honestly, I don\u2019t think that either one of us really anticipated what those challenges would be. I know that the obvious answer is, \u201cYes,\u201d because it\u2019s difficult for us to get our kids together to do things, or for us to go out on a date because I might have my children and he might have his children\u2014and you don\u2019t want to lose time with your children whenever you\u2019re a single parent\u2014you want to optimize the time that they\u2019re not with you that you can do something for yourself. So those were the challenges, I think, that we looked at. It wasn\u2019t until right around the time we were about to get married\u2014a couple of months\u2014that I could really see some of the other challenges rising up.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>What kinds of things could you see?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>I could see that, in some cases, the relationship that he had with his ex-wife was a little bit different \/ a little more volatile. There was still a lot of hurt. It was also a lot newer for him, as I had been divorced a little bit longer. I think they were still transitioning into learning how to co-parent together. I also think there was the distance from him with his children. I know we mentioned earlier that he would call his children every single night. I mean, sometimes, if we were hanging out together, he would step away to call his children, whether he was able to talk to them or not\u2014they\u2019re three and four years old. I was thinking, \u201cWhat kind of guy would call his children, who can barely even talk on the phone?\u201d and yet he did that. That showed me something in his character that I knew I could fall in love with.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How old were your children at the time?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kate: <\/strong>Our children are very close in age. I believe, by the time we got married, they were eight, seven, five, and four. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThey\u2019re very close in age.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What were they thinking about all this dating that you two were doing?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>You know, we got along really well. It was a really fun time for all of us because we were all excited. There were a lot of new things going on, and the kids were able to play together. So we did a lot of fun things back then \/ again, still now\u2014but we really wanted to make sure that we put our relationship first after God; but then we also were very involved with family and spending time with the children because it was valuable to us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>One of the things I\u2019ve heard from couples in your situation is that they often are blind-sided by the reaction of the kids to a marriage because, during the dating \/ the courtship time, it all feels <em>great<\/em> \/ the kids are loving it. It just feels like that\u2019s going to be: \u201cOf all of the problems we might have, the kids aren\u2019t going to be the problem.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut it\u2019s like you come home from the wedding and somebody flipped a switch in the kids. All of a sudden\u2014Ron, am I right that this is what happens?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>It\u2019s a very common experience for people. Somewhere, in the first six months or so, they kind of hit head-on into those realities. Is that something you experienced?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>You know, for us, I think\u2014instead of it being an instant light switch\u2014for us, it may have been a little bit of a dimmer because, at first, all of us were excited. It was a great moment for all of us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tKate and I\u2014we actually, when we got married\u2014we had a very small ceremony with our pastor and just a few friends, and then, we went on our honeymoon for a week or so. Then, when we came back, we had a family union celebration, where we invited all of our extended family. Instead of getting bridesmaids and groomsmen, our children participated in that event. We just wanted to be a positive example to others. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThings went really well in the beginning. We even sat down and talked to our kids and explained some things about how I was not going to try to replace anybody as their father and Kate was going to replace anybody as their mother\u2014\u2014you know, \u201cYou can call us whatever is comfortable for you,\u201d within reason and in a respectful way; right? [Laughter] But we really tried to set things at ease. For awhile, things went really well.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And Jerry, you experienced something else with her former husband. Initially, he started out, seeming like you were on the same page\u2014caring for his children that he had fathered\u2014and yet, later on, it moved into more of a competitive spirit between you and him.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>Yes; that\u2019s right. I had met him and talked with him a little bit, and even had a phone conversation on occasion. It was very positive. We were blending well in these moments. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThe children were feeling comfortable calling me, \u201cDad.\u201d I think, at that moment, I started to notice some issues on that side because the biological father of Kate\u2019s boys, I don\u2019t think, was very happy about that.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>He was happy to have you in the picture; but pretty soon, it started to feel like you were muscling him out.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>Yes; you know, as we began to bond closer together, it was like maybe there was some tension there that\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You\u2019re speaking of your relationship with his kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>That\u2019s right; yes. As we began to bond closer to one another, I think that there was a bit of a competition maybe taking place that I was unaware of. It really had an impact in our ongoing relationship with the children.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Ron, is there a way to anticipate\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Ron: <\/strong>No. [Laughter] You would think, \u201cYes; surely Ron has an answer that will help everybody anticipate that.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNo; actually, there\u2019s a phenomenon we call the \u201cdivorce-activated dad\u201d and the \u201cremarriage-activated dad\u201d\u2014who sometimes is involved with his kid\u2019s life and maybe peripheral to their life\u2014but then, when a stepfather, like Jerry, comes into the scene\u2014and, \u201cWow! My kids like him, and that feels like a threat to me,\u201d\u2014all of a sudden, they\u2019re more involved, and more invested, and really sometimes invested in prohibiting their kids from really falling deeply in love with the stepfather. So the competition comes out of nowhere, sometimes.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>There\u2019s a lot more to explore in this, and we\u2019re going to spend time this week doing that. This is deep water, Dennis.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know, I\u2019m listening to your story; and I\u2019m seeing you both smile. You guys are in the midst of a blended family, making it work, and actually ministering to other people. There can be a lot of really good things that come out of a blended family; but every time I set foot into this arena, talking about blended families, Ron, I pull back and I go, \u201cThis is a great apologetic for making your marriage go the distance <em>if<\/em> you possibly can.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, in your situation, neither one of you knew Christ\u2014and the reality and the hope of that occurring was probably not going to be great\u2014but when you can get two people to bow their necks and their wills before Almighty God and make their marriage go the distance, that is the preferred way a house should be built.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jerry: <\/strong>I think that\u2019s the <em>only<\/em> way that we saw success\u2014is to lay our lives down daily\u2014because there were daily challenges along the way. We had to do that\u2014we had to lay our lives down and put Him first because, when we did that, then He was able to work in our lives, and He was able to do the things that we were called to do, and He was able to add all those things unto us.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And then on top of that foundation, you can then employ strategies like you talk about in your book, Ron, <em>The Smart Stepfamily<\/em>\u2014strategies that can help you live out your faith, live out your convictions, and live at peace because that\u2019s part of what you\u2019re aiming for here: \u201cAs much as it depends on you,\u201d\u2014 Romans 12:18 says\u2014\u201cbe at peace with all men.\u201d I think that applies in blended family dynamics and situations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, I want to commend to our listeners the books that Ron Deal has written\u2014<em>The Smart Stepfamily, The Smart Stepmom, The Smart Stepdad<\/em>\u2014all of these books provide you with wise biblical counsel on how you can build strong, healthy relationships in blended families. Go to FamilyLifeToday.com for more information on how you can get copies of Ron Deal\u2019s books. Again, our website is FamilyLifeToday.com. There\u2019s also a link, online, for those of you who would like to know more about the Angelos\u2019 story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, the website is FamilyLifeToday.com. If you\u2019re interested in ordering the books by phone, our toll-free number is 1-800-FL-TODAY. That\u2019s 1-800-358-6329\u20141-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, this week we\u2019ve celebrated already the birthday of our country\u2014July 4, 1776, the day that the Declaration of Independence was signed and ratified. We mark that as a significant day in the history of our country. We think wedding anniversaries are significant days in the history of every family. We are the Proud Sponsor of Anniversaries<sup>\u2122<\/sup> as we seek to provide practical biblical help and hope for your marriage and your anniversary. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIn fact, all year long, we\u2019ve had people signing up to get anniversary ideas from us that we have been sending out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThirty days before your anniversary comes around, we send you ideas \/ suggestions on how your anniversary can be extra special this year. 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