{"id":303924,"date":"2016-03-23T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-03-23T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/getting-back-to-the-book\/"},"modified":"2016-03-23T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2016-03-23T15:00:00","slug":"getting-back-to-the-book","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/getting-back-to-the-book\/","title":{"rendered":"Getting Back to the Book"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Steve Green, president of Hobby Lobby, talks about his family&#8217;s faith and his new venture, the Museum of the Bible opening in Washington, DC, in November of 2017.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":91,"featured_media":294104,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","inline_featured_image":false,"_uag_custom_page_level_css":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"https:\/\/web.familylifetoday.com\/fl2016-03-23.mp3","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"00:","filesize":"22.96M","filesize_raw":"24075807","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":""},"categories":[2821],"tags":[4402,5980],"podcast_series":[8132],"cwp_profile":[9422],"series":[2101],"class_list":["post-303924","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-reaching-out","tag-bible","tag-museum","podcast_series-museum-of-the-bible","cwp_profile-steve-green","series-familylife-today"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2024\/09\/FLT-Podcast-Cover-2-508x508-3.jpg?w=508","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/1001\/2023\/02\/image-scaled.jpg","download_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-download\/303924\/getting-back-to-the-book","player_link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast-player\/303924\/getting-back-to-the-book","audio_player":null,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"light","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/familylife-today\/id212174303?mt=2&app=podcast","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0j5UaKdQOHQCuo1bt0ebEm","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"},"youtube":{"key":"youtube","url":"","label":"YouTube","class":"youtube","icon":"youtube.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/feed\/podcast\/familylife-today","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"mn0G8kxR8T\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/getting-back-to-the-book\/\">Getting Back to the Book<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/getting-back-to-the-book\/embed\/#?secret=mn0G8kxR8T\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Getting Back to the Book&#8221; &#8212; FamilyLife\u00ae - A Cru Ministry\" data-secret=\"mn0G8kxR8T\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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Here\u2019s the President of Hobby Lobby, Steve Green. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>We\u2019re looking at having a museum that is, not just a Bible under a glass case, but we really want to share and tell that story in an engaging way because this is a book that has an incredible story to be told. We can only scratch the surface of telling that story, but we want this museum to be a way of telling that story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Wednesday, March 23<sup>rd<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. Today, we\u2019re going to hear all about the plans for the new Museum of the Bible opening in Washington, DC, in November of 2017. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I think we\u2019ve just got to be right up front with our listeners as we start today\u2019s program. This is all came about because Barbara came to you and said, \u201cDo you think, if we got Steve Green from Hobby Lobby<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> over here, I could get a discount coupon that I could use at the store?\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She did not!\u00a0 [Laughter] I\u2019m not sure Steve Green passes out discount coupons!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, we should ask him. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Steve, welcome to the broadcast. [Laughter] That was not the truth. Bob will have to confess that later, but\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Okay. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014welcome to the broadcast. So, do you pass out discount coupons?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Steve: <\/strong>I don\u2019t. I don\u2019t have any discount coupons. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>See, I told you, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>I\u2019ll make one for you. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I knew that!\u00a0 Well, if you don\u2019t know that name, he is the President\/CEO of Hobby Lobby\u2014Chairman of the Board\u2014and also the Chairman of the Board of the Museum of the Bible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSteve and his wife have been married for 30 years. Jackie and he have six children \/ four grandchildren\u2014and quite a spread\u2014ages 29 to 9. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes\u201429 to 9\u201420-year spread there.\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. One of them is adopted\u2014they don\u2019t know which one\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014so they\u2019re kindred spirit in that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSteve has written a book that you might expect that a man, who is on a mission around the Museum of the Bible, would write\u2014it\u2019s called <em>The Bible in America<\/em>. And I really appreciate Steve and the mission he is on. I think our country needs to get back to the Book. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet\u2019s just talk for a moment, Steve, about your faith and kind of how your journey started with Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>My parents were raised in Christian homes. We grew up going to church every time the doors were opened, as they say\u2014at an early age\u2014had accepted Christ, attending church, and developing a love for the Bible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI never had this real rebellious time in school. I graduated high school and went to work in the business. I never did the college thing which is where, a lot of times, kids mess up and start being adventurous in their faith. I knew what I wanted to do\u2014I went into the business and have done the best I could to follow God from my childhood. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Steve, I\u2019m just curious\u2014how did you see a walk with Christ modeled by your mom and dad?\u00a0 I\u2019ve met your dad and mom, and I am impressed with both of them. Your dad loves to share his faith, and I\u2019m sure your mom does too. But how did you see a walk with Christ in your family demonstrated?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Well, I would say, basically, they just walked the talk \/ they lived the life. My dad was very focused on his relationship with my mother\u2014that was most important. They talked about how it was a lot of work. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf there were disagreements\u2014and you\u2019re going to have to talk through it until one o\u2019clock in the morning\u2014then, that\u2019s what you need to do and work through those issues. They taught us, and they loved us, and they disciplined us. I think raising kids is a lot of love and a lot of discipline because we need that\u2014and faithfully attending church. My mother was a choir director for our church, and Dad would teach class. He just <em>lived<\/em> the life and continues to live that life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And the family business you went into is, now, 1,200-stores strong, all across the United States. Our listeners are probably familiar with Hobby Lobby. I should say our female listeners are probably familiar with Hobby Lobby because I\u2019ve been in there a few times, and I noticed that there weren\u2019t many like me in there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou are a store providing\u2014I mean, it\u2019s just amazing the inventory you\u2019ve got in the stores, providing materials for anybody who is artsy\/craftsy\u2014home-d\u00e9cor. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow do you describe what you find inside a Hobby Lobby?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>We\u2019re an arts and crafts store for the creative mind in whatever that palate is. It may be the home where an individual is decorating a home. We have home-d\u00e9cor items. Obviously, Christmas, and the fabrics, and the typical arts and crafts supply, and frames. We\u2019re for the creative mind. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tToday, we have 700 stores. We\u2019re in the process of getting to 1,200 stores\u2014which is about what we feel like would fit in the 48 contiguous states, which are the market we\u2019re looking at. We\u2019re not looking at crossing a body of water or a border at this point. We\u2019re expanding and doing well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When you stepped into the family business, how big was it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>When I graduated, I think we had about eight stores, at the time; and we were growing. We have always been growing. But when I graduated and went full-time into the business, we had eight stores. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And you shared with us earlier that there was a time, early on, when you and your dad wondered if Hobby Lobby was going to make it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes, it was in 1986 because of 1985. Most of our stores were there in Oklahoma\u2014in the oil patch\u2014and the oil boom had busted. A lot of businesses were going out of business, and we were no different. We had a lot of product that quit selling, and we were having to get rid of\u2014\u201985 was the only year that we have lost money\u2014and \u201986 became a very tough year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDad invited the family to the house and said he didn\u2019t know how we would be able to survive. It was the year that\u2014he shares in his book, <em>More Than a Hobby<\/em>\u2014that he spent a lot of time away from the phone and in prayer, crying out to God\u2014saying, \u201cGod, if You want this business to succeed, You\u2019re going to have to intervene,\u201d and God did. It was a real lesson for him that he continues to share with the family\u2014that: \u201cThis is not our business. We\u2019re just stewards of it, and we\u2019re to do it according to His principles.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s what he learned then, continues to teach us, and we continue to strive to do today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And our listeners, who live in a Hobby Lobby area, have seen their Christmas edition newspaper \/ their Easter Day Sunday newspaper, with full-page ads declaring your faith in Jesus as a core value of the company. This is something you\u2019ve been known for\u2014for decades. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>It was\u2014I believe it was Christmas 1995 when Dad was going through the Christmas newspaper and noticing that nobody was recognizing the holiday for what it was\u2014the birth of Christ\u2014and was kind of frustrated and was saying, \u201cPeople aren\u2019t even recognizing...\u201d\u00a0 He just felt like God was tapping him on the shoulder and said, \u201cWell, neither are you!\u201d\u00a0 We\u2019d put our newspaper ad, but we weren\u2019t celebrating the season for what it was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe just felt like, \u201cWe need to, at least\u2014since we are selling a lot of Santa Clauses at Christmas and a lot of Easter bunnies at Easter\u2014to, at least, make a statement about: \u2018Here\u2019s what we believe these holidays are all about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014\u201c\u2018about the birth of Christ \/ and His death, burial, and resurrection at Easter.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 That started the ad program\u2014started a quarter-page ad the following Christmas season\u2014I believe, in \u201996. Then, at Easter, it went to half of a page; and the following Christmas, a full-page ad. They have been full-page ads since then. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And your dad is known as one who loves to share his faith in Christ with other people. The first time I met him, he\u2019d just come from a meeting of leaders. He was exciting that he had a chance to share his faith in Christ with 60 new managers of stores. I thought, \u201cThis is the kind of business leader we need today\u2014the kind who take out full-page ads\u201d\u2014as you guys do\u2014\u201caround the major holidays that celebrate Christ\u2014but also, celebrate Him in private.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes. It\u2019s when we bring the new management in every year. We want them to have: \u201cHere\u2019s a basic understanding of the company.\u201d\u00a0 We go over a bunch of the: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cHere\u2019s how we operate,\u201d and all that; but one of the things that Dad always wants them to know is: \u201cHere\u2019s my heart. We\u2019re doing this because we love God, and we want to follow biblical principles.\u201d\u00a0 It\u2019s plainly stated in our \u201cStatement of Purpose.\u201d\u00a0 So, we are excited about people\u2014now, there is no criterion of anybody being\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>\u2014Christian to come here. We\u2019re just looking for good employees \/ we\u2019ve got them of all different stripes; but we want people to know\u2014and it\u2019s kind of obvious, now, with our newspaper ads \/ closing on Sundays\u2014and letting people know: \u201cHere\u2019s our heart, and here\u2019s why we do what we do.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I love your values\u2014I really do. Where did your love for the Scriptures come from?\u00a0 You mentioned it, just then, that your company is built around biblical principles. You believe the Bible \/ you love it as God\u2019s Word\u2014was it from your mom and dad or\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>If you asked my parents, they\u2019d say it was from their parents. My dad would point to his mother. It was his mother that led his dad to Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe really looks up to my grandmother as a rock in the faith and has been a model for the family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you go into the corporate office\u2014in the entry way, what you will see is a painting of my grandmother there because, while she never had much in this life \/ she never did anything that anybody would stand up and take notice of\u2014never wrote a book, never had a large amounts of money, never spoke to a large crowd\u2014she lived her life faithfully. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOn her dying bed,\u2014my aunt was there\u2014my grandmother looked up to her and said, \u201cDo you see them?\u201d\u00a0 And she\u2014my aunt said, \u201cDo I see who, Mom?\u201d\u00a0 And she said, \u201cThe angels are coming to get me.\u201d\u00a0 And so, while this world would never have noticed her, heaven rolled out the red carpet and welcomed my grandmother home because she lived her life faithfully. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, when she had nothing, she would count the value of the pounding that was given as pastors\u2014they would give canned foods and that. She would count the value of that and she would tithe on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe had a heart faithful to God. Dad has said he has never out-given Grandma and he never will because\u2014as Jesus was in the temple, and he saw the widow give of what little she had, He made an interesting comment\u2014He said, \u201cShe gave more.\u201d\u00a0 So, God has a different measuring rod than we do. It\u2019s not\u2014He\u2019s not impressed with big numbers\u2014He saw her heart. She gave all that she had, and Dad has never\u2014and would say\u2014he will never be able to out-give my grandmother because she gave her life and gave when she had nothing to give. We\u2019ve given out of our abundance\u2014she gave when she had nothing to give. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, your love for the Scriptures is really a legacy that\u2019s been passed down. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>It is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Now, you\u2019re the third generation. You\u2019re passing it down to your six kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you\u2019re inviting the nation\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, I was going to say: \u201cIt\u2019s not just your six kids you\u2019re passing it down to. It is the United States of America, and ultimately, the world.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is kind of a new project in the last five years. God kind of snuck this one in on you; didn\u2019t He?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>He did. We were really not looking at doing this. There were some\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, let\u2019s explain what <em>this<\/em> is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Steve: <\/strong>Okay; <em>This<\/em> being the Museum of the Bible\u2014the centerpiece being a museum in Washington, DC\u2014430 square-foot museum with a lot of extra-curricular activities that come outside that box. But that being the <em>this<\/em> that we\u2019re talking about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Opening in November of 2017. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes; November 2017 is the target date and is going to be an exciting day for us. It really was somebody else\u2019s idea\u2014that as our collection grew, the family just felt the sense of responsibility\u2014we needed to make sure that it happened. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Your collection of historic artifacts. This is somebody that came to you and said, \u201cI got a chance to get some artifacts related to the Bible,\u201d and you said, \u201cWe\u2019ll help you out with that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll of a sudden, you were a collector. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Steve\u2019s smiling right now because this is how God snuck it in on him. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Steve: <\/strong>We were just going to help some guys that had an artifact they said we could acquire at a good price. We said, \u201cWe\u2019ll help you out.\u201d As we started acquiring, more opportunities presented themselves. The economy was in our favor. There was a downturn in the economy, and there were those who were interested in turning their collections into cash\u2014from a college at Cambridge to an individual that had collected for 30 years. A lot of opportunities presented themselves. As they presented themselves, we just kept buying. Now, we have about 40,000 items in the collection. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When did this collection of artifacts blossom into the idea, not just of a museum, but a world-class, Smithsonian-caliber museum in the heart of Washington, DC?\u00a0\u00a0 I mean, this is no small dream. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes; and that really has been a growth process over the last five years. Obviously, it started with a museum\u2014we wanted a good museum. As we took it on and as the collection grew, we just felt this sense of responsibility: \u201cIf we\u2019re going to do something, we want to do it right.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDad has made the comment\u2014when we had looked at the facility we have today \/ we\u2019re actually under construction\u2014he made the comment\u2014he said: \u201cI want two things. I want people to walk in and say, \u2018Wow!\u2019\u00a0 We want to make it where it\u2019s impressive when they first walk in the building, and we want it to be the best museum that we can make.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we want it to be top-notch. We\u2019ve engaged some of the leading design firms, construction firms, architect-design firms. We are looking at having a museum that is, not just a Bible under a glass case, but we really want to share and tell that story in an engaging way because this is a book that has an <em>incredible<\/em> story to be told. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe can only scratch the surface of telling that story, but we want this museum to be a way of telling that story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>What does it cost to build a museum in Washington, DC?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>This museum, all together, is about a half a billion dollar cost. The acquisition of the building, the construction, putting all the materials in\u2014the cost is about 500 million. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s a pretty big number. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>That\u2019s a pretty big number. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Now, full disclosure\u2014Dennis and I are both investors in the museum, and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014as is our Board of Directors\u2014\u2014FamilyLife\u2019s Board of Directors\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014FamilyLife\u2019s Board of Directors. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>The management team, here at FamilyLife\u2014we are all investors. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We all decided to do this. Explain to our listeners what we decided to do because this was at your invitation. It\u2019s reachable\u2014I think, for almost every listener\u2014in fact, several boys and girls who are listening. We have a lot of boys and girls, who listen to our broadcast\u2014not necessarily, Steve, because they want to\u2014but their parents turned it on and they have to; okay? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But they may find a way for them to give and to be a part of something really special. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>What is unique about this is\u2014this is a celebration of a book. It\u2019s not about a faith tradition, or a church, or a denomination\u2014this is about a book. There are people, all over this world\u2014while we have differences\u2014we can agree upon one thing, and that is the significance of this book in our world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, what we feel like there is\u2014is, at least, a million people out there that would be interested in supporting this effort. So, we have a \u201cMillion Name Campaign,\u201d where for a donation\u2014suggested for $20\u2014we will put your name on a wall \/ a wall that will have a million names. That, in itself\u2014when people come in and they see there are a million people that have come together because of a book\u2014that, in itself, is a story to be told. We\u2019re inviting people to be a part of that \u201cMillion Name Wall\u201d and our \u201cMillion Name Campaign.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re excited about the story that that will tell when people come in and realize, \u201cI thought this was an old, dusty book that\u2019s had its day; but there are people today that are still interested in this book.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And our broadcast is heard in somewhere around three dozen countries around the world. If you\u2019re listening to this broadcast\u2014maybe, it\u2019s a podcast of this\u2014we\u2019d invite people from other countries to absolutely join with us in celebrating the greatest book that has ever been written\u2014the best-selling book in the history of the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>If you go to FamilyLifeToday.com, there is information available there on how you can become an investor\u2014how you can have your name as one of the million names on the wall at the Museum of the Bible. I don\u2019t know how close your name will be to mine and Mary Ann\u2019s, but we\u2019re putting\u2014I\u2019m up for two names there. I\u2019m going to cover both of\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh, you\u2019re doubling down!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Absolutely!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, Barbara and I will too. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You can get more information about how you can have your name added to the wall. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI agree with you\u2014I think that walking in and seeing a million names on a wall\u2014I mean, we\u2019ve all been to the Vietnam Memorial and seen the names of those who have given their lives\u2014the ultimate sacrifice\u2014and that is moving. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo see a million people, who say, \u201cThe Bible really is significant in our world.\u201d People are going to know you have an allegiance \/ you have a faith tradition you come from\u2014you have a personal conviction here\u2014but you\u2019re trying to make sure that your museum is not just a tribute to your personal conviction. It\u2019s broader than that; isn\u2019t it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>It is. It is one of those that we have to\u2014to some degree\u2014step back and just say, \u201cThis book is going to have to stand on its own.\u201d\u00a0 We, at the bottom line, are saying, \u201cWe are inviting all people to engage with this book.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have differences. I grew up in a church, and I have differences with the church that I grew up in\u2014I attend another church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have differences with the church I attend today. [Laughter]\u00a0 You don\u2019t have to go too far back, and I disagree with myself from not too long ago. [Laughter] We have differences. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Steve: <\/strong>Okay?\u00a0 We will never completely have this book figured out. We\u2019re just trying to say: \u201cLet\u2019s take a look at this book. Let\u2019s take it off the shelf, read it, and see what it has to say.\u201d\u00a0 <br><br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Everybody who has given $20 is, at some level, saying, \u201cThis book matters,\u201d\u2014and that\u2019s what the museum is all about\u2014. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and it matters to our country. I had\u2014I almost burst out laughing, Steve, when you said, \u201cWe have to let this book stand on its own.\u201d\u00a0 I almost burst out laughing because it\u2019s like: \u201cNow, who wrote this book?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cWho\u2019s letting who do what?\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m sorry, Steve!\u00a0 I totally respect you and what you\u2019re doing\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014but it is like, \u201cHey, I think God can cover His back.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know?\u00a0 He\u2019s written this book\u2014He has met people who have read this book. When they read it, He shows up and people have transformed lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt doesn\u2019t mean they become perfect and have a halo. They still have struggles \/ I still have struggles. They\u2019re still in process of determining what they believe about major issues in life, but the Bible explains God \/ it explains life\u2014it explains who we are, and who we ought to be, and the mission we ought to be on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>This book makes some pretty bold claims. It claims it\u2019s going to last forever. Now, if you write a book and you say, \u201cIt\u2019s going to last forever,\u201d you might get laughed at. It claims to be God\u2019s Word. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>You make that claim in your books. I mean\u2014but that is some of the bold claims it makes. It makes the claim that it\u2019s alive. Now, it\u2019s a book; but it claims to be alive. Now, if this book is what it claims to be\u2014if it is God\u2019s Word\u2014when I go and I read it, that living God shows up and He can speak to me. For us to just invite people to read it\u2014that\u2019s kind of our limits \/ we can\u2019t go past that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe just have to let God take it from there, and He does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well\u2014and in this week, where all of our attention is around that moment in the biblical record that is the central theme of the New Testament \/ the death, and burial, and resurrection of Jesus\u2014I think it\u2019s good for us to stop and thank God for His revelation\u2014that He has not been silent. And thank Him for the work that you guys are doing\u2014that we have an opportunity to share with the world, in Washington, DC, starting next year, just what a remarkable book this is\u2014it is the very word of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, let me encourage our listeners\u2014go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, and click the link you find there to the Museum of the Bible website. Join Dennis and Barbara, and Mary Ann and me, and plan to have your name added to the wall at the Museum of the Bible by giving $20 to help support this effort. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and look for the link for the Museum of the Bible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe need to wish some friends of ours a \u201cHappy anniversary!\u201d today. Today is the 25<sup>th<\/sup> wedding anniversary \/ the silver anniversary for Paul and Maryanne Pitre, who live in Tampa, Florida\u2014married on this day in 1991. They\u2019ve been to a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. They help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> as donors. We appreciate you guys partnering with us, here in this ministry; and \u201cCongratulations!\u201d on your 25<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think a lot of our listeners know by now this is our 40<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary as a ministry\u2014FamilyLife began in 1976. As we celebrate our 40<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary this year, we want our focus to be on all the anniversaries that have happened because of how God has used the ministry of FamilyLife in people\u2019s lives over the years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith that in mind, we\u2019d love to share with you some anniversary ideas on how you could make this your best anniversary year ever. Go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, and leave us your anniversary date. About a month before your anniversary rolls around, we\u2019ll start sharing with you some hints \/ some suggestions on how you can make this a special celebration for the two of you, as a couple, this year. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to give us your anniversary at 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd if you\u2019re able to help with a donation today to support the ministry of FamilyLife, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a book called <em>Becoming a Spiritually Healthy Family: Avoiding the 6 Dysfunctional Parenting Styles<\/em>. The book is our gift to you when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com to make a donation; or you call 1-800-FL-TODAY\u2014make a donation over the phone and request your copy of the book\u2014or you can mail your request for the book, along with your donation, to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we\u2019re going to continue to find out more about the Museum of the Bible\u2014hear about the plans that the designers have in mind for this museum. Hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2016 FamilyLife. 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So, do you pass out discount coupons?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Steve: <\/strong>I don\u2019t. I don\u2019t have any discount coupons. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>See, I told you, Bob. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>I\u2019ll make one for you. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I knew that!\u00a0 Well, if you don\u2019t know that name, he is the President\/CEO of Hobby Lobby\u2014Chairman of the Board\u2014and also the Chairman of the Board of the Museum of the Bible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSteve and his wife have been married for 30 years. Jackie and he have six children \/ four grandchildren\u2014and quite a spread\u2014ages 29 to 9. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes\u201429 to 9\u201420-year spread there.\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. One of them is adopted\u2014they don\u2019t know which one\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014so they\u2019re kindred spirit in that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSteve has written a book that you might expect that a man, who is on a mission around the Museum of the Bible, would write\u2014it\u2019s called <em>The Bible in America<\/em>. And I really appreciate Steve and the mission he is on. I think our country needs to get back to the Book. <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tLet\u2019s just talk for a moment, Steve, about your faith and kind of how your journey started with Jesus Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>My parents were raised in Christian homes. We grew up going to church every time the doors were opened, as they say\u2014at an early age\u2014had accepted Christ, attending church, and developing a love for the Bible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI never had this real rebellious time in school. I graduated high school and went to work in the business. I never did the college thing which is where, a lot of times, kids mess up and start being adventurous in their faith. I knew what I wanted to do\u2014I went into the business and have done the best I could to follow God from my childhood. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Steve, I\u2019m just curious\u2014how did you see a walk with Christ modeled by your mom and dad?\u00a0 I\u2019ve met your dad and mom, and I am impressed with both of them. Your dad loves to share his faith, and I\u2019m sure your mom does too. But how did you see a walk with Christ in your family demonstrated?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Well, I would say, basically, they just walked the talk \/ they lived the life. My dad was very focused on his relationship with my mother\u2014that was most important. They talked about how it was a lot of work. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf there were disagreements\u2014and you\u2019re going to have to talk through it until one o\u2019clock in the morning\u2014then, that\u2019s what you need to do and work through those issues. They taught us, and they loved us, and they disciplined us. I think raising kids is a lot of love and a lot of discipline because we need that\u2014and faithfully attending church. My mother was a choir director for our church, and Dad would teach class. He just <em>lived<\/em> the life and continues to live that life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And the family business you went into is, now, 1,200-stores strong, all across the United States. Our listeners are probably familiar with Hobby Lobby. I should say our female listeners are probably familiar with Hobby Lobby because I\u2019ve been in there a few times, and I noticed that there weren\u2019t many like me in there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou are a store providing\u2014I mean, it\u2019s just amazing the inventory you\u2019ve got in the stores, providing materials for anybody who is artsy\/craftsy\u2014home-d\u00e9cor. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHow do you describe what you find inside a Hobby Lobby?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>We\u2019re an arts and crafts store for the creative mind in whatever that palate is. It may be the home where an individual is decorating a home. We have home-d\u00e9cor items. Obviously, Christmas, and the fabrics, and the typical arts and crafts supply, and frames. We\u2019re for the creative mind. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tToday, we have 700 stores. We\u2019re in the process of getting to 1,200 stores\u2014which is about what we feel like would fit in the 48 contiguous states, which are the market we\u2019re looking at. We\u2019re not looking at crossing a body of water or a border at this point. We\u2019re expanding and doing well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When you stepped into the family business, how big was it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>When I graduated, I think we had about eight stores, at the time; and we were growing. We have always been growing. But when I graduated and went full-time into the business, we had eight stores. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And you shared with us earlier that there was a time, early on, when you and your dad wondered if Hobby Lobby was going to make it.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes, it was in 1986 because of 1985. Most of our stores were there in Oklahoma\u2014in the oil patch\u2014and the oil boom had busted. A lot of businesses were going out of business, and we were no different. We had a lot of product that quit selling, and we were having to get rid of\u2014\u201985 was the only year that we have lost money\u2014and \u201986 became a very tough year. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDad invited the family to the house and said he didn\u2019t know how we would be able to survive. It was the year that\u2014he shares in his book, <em>More Than a Hobby<\/em>\u2014that he spent a lot of time away from the phone and in prayer, crying out to God\u2014saying, \u201cGod, if You want this business to succeed, You\u2019re going to have to intervene,\u201d and God did. It was a real lesson for him that he continues to share with the family\u2014that: \u201cThis is not our business. We\u2019re just stewards of it, and we\u2019re to do it according to His principles.\u201d\u00a0 That\u2019s what he learned then, continues to teach us, and we continue to strive to do today. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And our listeners, who live in a Hobby Lobby area, have seen their Christmas edition newspaper \/ their Easter Day Sunday newspaper, with full-page ads declaring your faith in Jesus as a core value of the company. This is something you\u2019ve been known for\u2014for decades. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>It was\u2014I believe it was Christmas 1995 when Dad was going through the Christmas newspaper and noticing that nobody was recognizing the holiday for what it was\u2014the birth of Christ\u2014and was kind of frustrated and was saying, \u201cPeople aren\u2019t even recognizing...\u201d\u00a0 He just felt like God was tapping him on the shoulder and said, \u201cWell, neither are you!\u201d\u00a0 We\u2019d put our newspaper ad, but we weren\u2019t celebrating the season for what it was. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe just felt like, \u201cWe need to, at least\u2014since we are selling a lot of Santa Clauses at Christmas and a lot of Easter bunnies at Easter\u2014to, at least, make a statement about: \u2018Here\u2019s what we believe these holidays are all about\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014\u201c\u2018about the birth of Christ \/ and His death, burial, and resurrection at Easter.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 That started the ad program\u2014started a quarter-page ad the following Christmas season\u2014I believe, in \u201996. Then, at Easter, it went to half of a page; and the following Christmas, a full-page ad. They have been full-page ads since then. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And your dad is known as one who loves to share his faith in Christ with other people. The first time I met him, he\u2019d just come from a meeting of leaders. He was exciting that he had a chance to share his faith in Christ with 60 new managers of stores. I thought, \u201cThis is the kind of business leader we need today\u2014the kind who take out full-page ads\u201d\u2014as you guys do\u2014\u201caround the major holidays that celebrate Christ\u2014but also, celebrate Him in private.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes. It\u2019s when we bring the new management in every year. We want them to have: \u201cHere\u2019s a basic understanding of the company.\u201d\u00a0 We go over a bunch of the: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cHere\u2019s how we operate,\u201d and all that; but one of the things that Dad always wants them to know is: \u201cHere\u2019s my heart. We\u2019re doing this because we love God, and we want to follow biblical principles.\u201d\u00a0 It\u2019s plainly stated in our \u201cStatement of Purpose.\u201d\u00a0 So, we are excited about people\u2014now, there is no criterion of anybody being\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>\u2014Christian to come here. We\u2019re just looking for good employees \/ we\u2019ve got them of all different stripes; but we want people to know\u2014and it\u2019s kind of obvious, now, with our newspaper ads \/ closing on Sundays\u2014and letting people know: \u201cHere\u2019s our heart, and here\u2019s why we do what we do.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I love your values\u2014I really do. Where did your love for the Scriptures come from?\u00a0 You mentioned it, just then, that your company is built around biblical principles. You believe the Bible \/ you love it as God\u2019s Word\u2014was it from your mom and dad or\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>If you asked my parents, they\u2019d say it was from their parents. My dad would point to his mother. It was his mother that led his dad to Christ. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe really looks up to my grandmother as a rock in the faith and has been a model for the family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you go into the corporate office\u2014in the entry way, what you will see is a painting of my grandmother there because, while she never had much in this life \/ she never did anything that anybody would stand up and take notice of\u2014never wrote a book, never had a large amounts of money, never spoke to a large crowd\u2014she lived her life faithfully. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tOn her dying bed,\u2014my aunt was there\u2014my grandmother looked up to her and said, \u201cDo you see them?\u201d\u00a0 And she\u2014my aunt said, \u201cDo I see who, Mom?\u201d\u00a0 And she said, \u201cThe angels are coming to get me.\u201d\u00a0 And so, while this world would never have noticed her, heaven rolled out the red carpet and welcomed my grandmother home because she lived her life faithfully. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, when she had nothing, she would count the value of the pounding that was given as pastors\u2014they would give canned foods and that. She would count the value of that and she would tithe on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tShe had a heart faithful to God. Dad has said he has never out-given Grandma and he never will because\u2014as Jesus was in the temple, and he saw the widow give of what little she had, He made an interesting comment\u2014He said, \u201cShe gave more.\u201d\u00a0 So, God has a different measuring rod than we do. It\u2019s not\u2014He\u2019s not impressed with big numbers\u2014He saw her heart. She gave all that she had, and Dad has never\u2014and would say\u2014he will never be able to out-give my grandmother because she gave her life and gave when she had nothing to give. We\u2019ve given out of our abundance\u2014she gave when she had nothing to give. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, your love for the Scriptures is really a legacy that\u2019s been passed down. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>It is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Now, you\u2019re the third generation. You\u2019re passing it down to your six kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And you\u2019re inviting the nation\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, I was going to say: \u201cIt\u2019s not just your six kids you\u2019re passing it down to. It is the United States of America, and ultimately, the world.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThis is kind of a new project in the last five years. God kind of snuck this one in on you; didn\u2019t He?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>He did. We were really not looking at doing this. There were some\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, let\u2019s explain what <em>this<\/em> is. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Steve: <\/strong>Okay; <em>This<\/em> being the Museum of the Bible\u2014the centerpiece being a museum in Washington, DC\u2014430 square-foot museum with a lot of extra-curricular activities that come outside that box. But that being the <em>this<\/em> that we\u2019re talking about. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Opening in November of 2017. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes; November 2017 is the target date and is going to be an exciting day for us. It really was somebody else\u2019s idea\u2014that as our collection grew, the family just felt the sense of responsibility\u2014we needed to make sure that it happened. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Your collection of historic artifacts. This is somebody that came to you and said, \u201cI got a chance to get some artifacts related to the Bible,\u201d and you said, \u201cWe\u2019ll help you out with that.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAll of a sudden, you were a collector. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>That\u2019s right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Steve\u2019s smiling right now because this is how God snuck it in on him. [Laughter] \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Steve: <\/strong>We were just going to help some guys that had an artifact they said we could acquire at a good price. We said, \u201cWe\u2019ll help you out.\u201d As we started acquiring, more opportunities presented themselves. The economy was in our favor. There was a downturn in the economy, and there were those who were interested in turning their collections into cash\u2014from a college at Cambridge to an individual that had collected for 30 years. A lot of opportunities presented themselves. As they presented themselves, we just kept buying. Now, we have about 40,000 items in the collection. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>When did this collection of artifacts blossom into the idea, not just of a museum, but a world-class, Smithsonian-caliber museum in the heart of Washington, DC?\u00a0\u00a0 I mean, this is no small dream. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes; and that really has been a growth process over the last five years. Obviously, it started with a museum\u2014we wanted a good museum. As we took it on and as the collection grew, we just felt this sense of responsibility: \u201cIf we\u2019re going to do something, we want to do it right.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tDad has made the comment\u2014when we had looked at the facility we have today \/ we\u2019re actually under construction\u2014he made the comment\u2014he said: \u201cI want two things. I want people to walk in and say, \u2018Wow!\u2019\u00a0 We want to make it where it\u2019s impressive when they first walk in the building, and we want it to be the best museum that we can make.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, we want it to be top-notch. We\u2019ve engaged some of the leading design firms, construction firms, architect-design firms. We are looking at having a museum that is, not just a Bible under a glass case, but we really want to share and tell that story in an engaging way because this is a book that has an <em>incredible<\/em> story to be told. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe can only scratch the surface of telling that story, but we want this museum to be a way of telling that story. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>What does it cost to build a museum in Washington, DC?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>This museum, all together, is about a half a billion dollar cost. The acquisition of the building, the construction, putting all the materials in\u2014the cost is about 500 million. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s a pretty big number. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>That\u2019s a pretty big number. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Now, full disclosure\u2014Dennis and I are both investors in the museum, and\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014as is our Board of Directors\u2014\u2014FamilyLife\u2019s Board of Directors\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014FamilyLife\u2019s Board of Directors. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>The management team, here at FamilyLife\u2014we are all investors. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>We all decided to do this. Explain to our listeners what we decided to do because this was at your invitation. It\u2019s reachable\u2014I think, for almost every listener\u2014in fact, several boys and girls who are listening. We have a lot of boys and girls, who listen to our broadcast\u2014not necessarily, Steve, because they want to\u2014but their parents turned it on and they have to; okay? [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But they may find a way for them to give and to be a part of something really special. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>What is unique about this is\u2014this is a celebration of a book. It\u2019s not about a faith tradition, or a church, or a denomination\u2014this is about a book. There are people, all over this world\u2014while we have differences\u2014we can agree upon one thing, and that is the significance of this book in our world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, what we feel like there is\u2014is, at least, a million people out there that would be interested in supporting this effort. So, we have a \u201cMillion Name Campaign,\u201d where for a donation\u2014suggested for $20\u2014we will put your name on a wall \/ a wall that will have a million names. That, in itself\u2014when people come in and they see there are a million people that have come together because of a book\u2014that, in itself, is a story to be told. We\u2019re inviting people to be a part of that \u201cMillion Name Wall\u201d and our \u201cMillion Name Campaign.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re excited about the story that that will tell when people come in and realize, \u201cI thought this was an old, dusty book that\u2019s had its day; but there are people today that are still interested in this book.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And our broadcast is heard in somewhere around three dozen countries around the world. If you\u2019re listening to this broadcast\u2014maybe, it\u2019s a podcast of this\u2014we\u2019d invite people from other countries to absolutely join with us in celebrating the greatest book that has ever been written\u2014the best-selling book in the history of the world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>If you go to FamilyLifeToday.com, there is information available there on how you can become an investor\u2014how you can have your name as one of the million names on the wall at the Museum of the Bible. I don\u2019t know how close your name will be to mine and Mary Ann\u2019s, but we\u2019re putting\u2014I\u2019m up for two names there. I\u2019m going to cover both of\u2014\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Oh, you\u2019re doubling down!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Absolutely!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, Barbara and I will too. [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You can get more information about how you can have your name added to the wall. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI agree with you\u2014I think that walking in and seeing a million names on a wall\u2014I mean, we\u2019ve all been to the Vietnam Memorial and seen the names of those who have given their lives\u2014the ultimate sacrifice\u2014and that is moving. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tTo see a million people, who say, \u201cThe Bible really is significant in our world.\u201d People are going to know you have an allegiance \/ you have a faith tradition you come from\u2014you have a personal conviction here\u2014but you\u2019re trying to make sure that your museum is not just a tribute to your personal conviction. It\u2019s broader than that; isn\u2019t it? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>It is. It is one of those that we have to\u2014to some degree\u2014step back and just say, \u201cThis book is going to have to stand on its own.\u201d\u00a0 We, at the bottom line, are saying, \u201cWe are inviting all people to engage with this book.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe have differences. I grew up in a church, and I have differences with the church that I grew up in\u2014I attend another church. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI have differences with the church I attend today. [Laughter]\u00a0 You don\u2019t have to go too far back, and I disagree with myself from not too long ago. [Laughter] We have differences. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Steve: <\/strong>Okay?\u00a0 We will never completely have this book figured out. We\u2019re just trying to say: \u201cLet\u2019s take a look at this book. Let\u2019s take it off the shelf, read it, and see what it has to say.\u201d\u00a0 <br><br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Everybody who has given $20 is, at some level, saying, \u201cThis book matters,\u201d\u2014and that\u2019s what the museum is all about\u2014. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and it matters to our country. I had\u2014I almost burst out laughing, Steve, when you said, \u201cWe have to let this book stand on its own.\u201d\u00a0 I almost burst out laughing because it\u2019s like: \u201cNow, who wrote this book?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cWho\u2019s letting who do what?\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I\u2019m sorry, Steve!\u00a0 I totally respect you and what you\u2019re doing\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014but it is like, \u201cHey, I think God can cover His back.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You know?\u00a0 He\u2019s written this book\u2014He has met people who have read this book. When they read it, He shows up and people have transformed lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt doesn\u2019t mean they become perfect and have a halo. They still have struggles \/ I still have struggles. They\u2019re still in process of determining what they believe about major issues in life, but the Bible explains God \/ it explains life\u2014it explains who we are, and who we ought to be, and the mission we ought to be on. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>This book makes some pretty bold claims. It claims it\u2019s going to last forever. Now, if you write a book and you say, \u201cIt\u2019s going to last forever,\u201d you might get laughed at. It claims to be God\u2019s Word. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Steve: <\/strong>You make that claim in your books. I mean\u2014but that is some of the bold claims it makes. It makes the claim that it\u2019s alive. Now, it\u2019s a book; but it claims to be alive. Now, if this book is what it claims to be\u2014if it is God\u2019s Word\u2014when I go and I read it, that living God shows up and He can speak to me. For us to just invite people to read it\u2014that\u2019s kind of our limits \/ we can\u2019t go past that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe just have to let God take it from there, and He does. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well\u2014and in this week, where all of our attention is around that moment in the biblical record that is the central theme of the New Testament \/ the death, and burial, and resurrection of Jesus\u2014I think it\u2019s good for us to stop and thank God for His revelation\u2014that He has not been silent. And thank Him for the work that you guys are doing\u2014that we have an opportunity to share with the world, in Washington, DC, starting next year, just what a remarkable book this is\u2014it is the very word of God. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, let me encourage our listeners\u2014go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, and click the link you find there to the Museum of the Bible website. Join Dennis and Barbara, and Mary Ann and me, and plan to have your name added to the wall at the Museum of the Bible by giving $20 to help support this effort. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, go to FamilyLifeToday.com and look for the link for the Museum of the Bible. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe need to wish some friends of ours a \u201cHappy anniversary!\u201d today. Today is the 25<sup>th<\/sup> wedding anniversary \/ the silver anniversary for Paul and Maryanne Pitre, who live in Tampa, Florida\u2014married on this day in 1991. They\u2019ve been to a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup>. They help support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> as donors. We appreciate you guys partnering with us, here in this ministry; and \u201cCongratulations!\u201d on your 25<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI think a lot of our listeners know by now this is our 40<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary as a ministry\u2014FamilyLife began in 1976. As we celebrate our 40<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary this year, we want our focus to be on all the anniversaries that have happened because of how God has used the ministry of FamilyLife in people\u2019s lives over the years. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWith that in mind, we\u2019d love to share with you some anniversary ideas on how you could make this your best anniversary year ever. Go to our website, FamilyLifeToday.com, and leave us your anniversary date. About a month before your anniversary rolls around, we\u2019ll start sharing with you some hints \/ some suggestions on how you can make this a special celebration for the two of you, as a couple, this year. Again, go to FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to give us your anniversary at 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd if you\u2019re able to help with a donation today to support the ministry of FamilyLife, we\u2019d like to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d by sending you a book called <em>Becoming a Spiritually Healthy Family: Avoiding the 6 Dysfunctional Parenting Styles<\/em>. The book is our gift to you when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com to make a donation; or you call 1-800-FL-TODAY\u2014make a donation over the phone and request your copy of the book\u2014or you can mail your request for the book, along with your donation, to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; our zip code is 72223.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, tomorrow, we\u2019re going to continue to find out more about the Museum of the Bible\u2014hear about the plans that the designers have in mind for this museum. Hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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