{"id":303852,"date":"2016-01-29T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-01-29T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/dealing-with-your-childrens-doubts\/"},"modified":"2016-01-29T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2016-01-29T17:00:00","slug":"dealing-with-your-childrens-doubts","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/dealing-with-your-childrens-doubts\/","title":{"rendered":"Dealing With Your Children&#8217;s Doubts"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>guest: Kara Powell | Series: The Sticky Faith Guide | What if your child doubts God? Kara Powell reveals that 70 percent\u00a0of high school seniors have doubts about their faith, but parents shouldn&#8217;t be alarmed. Kara explains that when young people explore their doubts, it leads to maturity. If your kids ask a question you can&#8217;t answer, it&#8217;s okay to tell them you don&#8217;t know and then help them find the answer. 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Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. How can moms and dads have conversations with their kids that lead their kids in the right direction, spiritually? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re going to explore that today. Hope you can stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I have, many times, quoted out of context 3 John, where the Bible says, \u201cI have no greater joy than to know that my children are walking in the truth.\u201d\u00a0 And I say it\u2019s out of context because John is talking about his spiritual children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>He\u2019s not talking about his physical children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But they can be our spiritual children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>They can be, and there is no greater joy for a mom or a dad\u2014and probably no greater <em>pain<\/em> for a mom or dad than when your kids are off in the far country; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. And we have with us somebody to talk about that. Dr. Kara Powell joins us. Kara, welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>It\u2019s wonderful to be here!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She\u2019s written a book called <em>The Sticky Faith Guide for Your Family: Over 100 Practical and Tested Ideas to Build Lasting Faith<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Dennis likes practical and tested. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>He\u2019s big on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I do. I think the average parent needs to know how to think right and they need a good philosophical background; but most parents just need somebody to put their arm around them and say, \u201cHere are five ways you can help build faith in your kids.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>You\u2019re raising three, right now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What\u2019s the biggest challenge you are facing in raising two teenagers?\u2014as I recall, one that is an emerging teenager in Southern California. What\u2019s the biggest challenge you are facing?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>The first thing that comes to my mind when you asked that question is: \u201cHow to make sure I stay connected with my kids\u2019 hearts in the midst of an often frenetic and, at least, always busy family schedule.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And the implication there\u2014if you\u2019re not connecting with your kids, you can\u2019t pass on your faith to your kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes, in the midst of our research\u2014I <em>love<\/em> practical ideas, and we\u2019ll certainly unpack those\u2014one of the things that\u2019s been most challenging to me and encouraging to me is just to stay heart-connected to my kids\u2014that I have those times to really listen and talk with them about who they are \/ what they are struggling with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat is gold!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>To that point, one of the things I struggled with, as a high school student, going off to college, were doubts. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I don\u2019t remember opening myself up to my mom or dad about my doubts. It wasn\u2019t that they were particularly unsafe to talk about this. I\u2019m not sure I felt like doubts were a fair point of discussion with anybody in the church. It was like: \u201cYou shouldn\u2019t talk about your doubts. That\u2019s anti-faith. What are you going to do with that?\u201d\u00a0 But I was struggling with it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ve found that doubts can be a key to the door to open your child\u2019s heart and to build their faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Well, you\u2019re certainly not alone in having tough questions about God and doubts. Our research indicates that about 70 percent of high school seniors have <em>significant<\/em> questions about God and faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Here\u2019s what I\u2019m observing, though, that\u2019s a little concerning. It seems to me, not with young people as much as, maybe, with 20-somethings. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere seems to be almost a celebration of doubt and skepticism\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014an elevation of this like, \u201cYou\u2019re not really authentic if you don\u2019t doubt.\u201d\u00a0 It\u2019s almost like, \u201cIf you don\u2019t doubt, and if you have faith, we think you\u2019re probably a phony.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Right. And that\u2019s where I think what Dennis was saying earlier is so important\u2014that in our research, we found that, when young people have the opportunity to express and explore their doubts, that\u2019s actually correlated with greater faith maturity. In other words, doubt isn\u2019t toxic to faith\u2014silence is. But Bob, you\u2019re pointing out another extreme, which is to say: \u201cWe kind of throw up our hands and say, \u2018Well, what can we know?\u00a0 Let\u2019s just kind of sit and be mired in all of our tough questions.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs a parent, one of the phrases that has really helped me with my own kids\u2014and it helps me find that balance between finding a safe space to talk about doubts but still pointing to the truth of what I <em>do<\/em> know about God\u2014is four words. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThese are four words we recommend that parents use, starting when their kids are young up through the 20\u2019s\u2014like you\u2019re talking about\u2014and I\u2019ve used this when my kids will come to me with their tough questions. It is this: \u201cI don\u2019t know, but\u2026.\u201d\u00a0 \u201cI don\u2019t know, but here\u2019s what I do know to be true about God.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>And I\u2019ll tell you\u2014Romans 5:3 and 4\u2014in the midst of my kids and our family experiencing suffering and seeing people close to us experience suffering\u2014that is often what we have pointed to\u2014my husband and I, when we say: \u201cBoy, we don\u2019t know why our dear friend died of cancer prematurely\u2026\u201d \u201cWe don\u2019t know why God would allow that plane to crash; but we do know suffering leads to perseverance, perseverance to character, and character to hope.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s one anchor we try to use with our own family to find that balance of being a safe place but still knowing the rocks of our faith that we can stand upon. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I had the opportunity, a number of months ago, to be teaching through the life of Joseph in church. We were in the middle of the story of Joseph and his brothers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was making the point that\u2014here was evil that was visited on Joseph by his brothers; and yet, God, in His divine sovereignty, had allowed these things and had actually been using these for His own purposes. We all know that at the end of the story, Joseph says, \u201cYou meant it for evil; God meant it for good.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA young woman in our church wrote me a note and she said: \u201cI\u2019m struggling with this. How can God hold people accountable for the evil that they\u2019ve done if He\u2019s using it for His purposes and if it\u2019s under His divine sovereignty?\u201d You know, it\u2019s the tension that we all are aware of\u2014between human responsibility and divine sovereignty. I wrote her back and I said: \u201cYou\u2019re struggling with this. Good. Welcome to the club\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cof people who have struggled with this for centuries.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>And I tried to do what you\u2019re describing, which is to say: \u201cI don\u2019t think anybody\u2019s going to answer all your questions on this. And if you need all of them answered in order to trust God, you\u2019re probably going to be frustrated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut here is what I do know\u2026\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes; exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And I was able to unpack: \u201cI know this\u2026\u201d and how all of that works together. I think, someday, we\u2019ll get a better picture of that than we have today; but for now, we walk by faith and not by sight. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And we really do have to be okay with our kids struggling\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014with their faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Better that they struggle with their faith under your roof\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014than leave your house, dutifully nodding their heads, all the way through adolescence into college. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. And that we, as parents\u2014we\u2019re in process too. It\u2019s not just our kids who are in process. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, <em>Sticky Faith<\/em> has changed my parenting. Every day, I parent differently. I think this whole area of parent\/child faith conversations is the most tangible way my parenting has changed. So, whether it\u2019s doubt or other topics related to faith\u2014let me illustrate for a moment the biggest shift I\u2019ve made, as a parent, based on our research. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, Dennis, let\u2019s say that you\u2019re my child. What we, as parents, tend to do is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014we tend to ask our kids questions about <em>their<\/em> faith: \u201cHow was church?\u201d\u2014we say on the minivan ride home\u2014\u201cHow was youth group?\u00a0 What did you talk about?\u00a0 What did you learn?\u201d\u00a0 Depending on your kid\u2019s mood, personality, relationship with you\u2014you might get an answer; you might get a short answer; you might get an eye roll and a, \u201cLeave me alone, Mom,\u201d\u2014depending on where your kid is at. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Well, what our research suggests is\u2014it is a good thing for us, as parents, to keep asking those questions of our kids\u2014but what is as important and much less practiced\u2014isn\u2019t just that we, basically, interview our kids\u2014but that we share ourselves about <em>our<\/em> faith journey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cLet me tell you what I learned at church this morning. It was really powerful,\u201d\u2014that kind of thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Exactly!\u00a0 And before our research, we would, as a family, talk about what we learned at church. Literally, Dave and I would ask our three kids, \u201cWhat did you learn?\u201d\u00a0 Then, we prayed as a family; and Dave and I never shared what <em>we<\/em> learned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>We were totally missing that opportunity. So, one of the questions that we ask now at the dinner table with our kids is, \u201cHow did you see God at work today?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd when we first raised that question, one of our daughters was about eight. She said, \u201cWell, Mommy\/Daddy, I can\u2019t answer that question.\u201d\u00a0 \u201cReally? Why not?\u201d\u00a0 She said, \u201cWell, I don\u2019t have a job,\u201d\u2014\u201cHow did you see God <em>at<\/em> <em>work<\/em> today?\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut then, when we reframed it\u2014\u201cOkay, how did you see God working?\u201d\u2014<em>all<\/em> of us \/ Dave and I included\u2014answer that question. I\u2019ve got to be honest\u2014I don\u2019t always <em>love<\/em> the theology that comes out of my kids\u2019 mouths: \u201cI saw God work because we won the kickball tournament today!\u201d\u00a0 Eventually, we will deconstruct that. [Laughter] But at this time in their development, we just, not only want <em>them<\/em> to share with us how they saw God at work\u2014and sometimes, they say they didn\u2019t really see God at work today; and that\u2019s okay too. But we want them to hear Dave and me talking, every day, how we saw God at work that day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. We\u2019re talking with Kara Powell today, who is the author of the book, <em>The Sticky Faith Guide for Your Family<\/em>, on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I think it\u2019s important for parents, here, to know these kinds of conversations need to be handled with care. It is\u2014when a child comes and says, \u201cI have a question about this,\u201d\u2014and the parent either shrugs it off, or ignores it, or minimizes it\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that\u2019s problematic\u2014but it can be equally problematic for the parent to become the one-man apologetic, \u201cLet me lock this down tight for you, and give you all of the right answers, and get you boxed in so you\u2019re thinking correctly.\u201d\u00a0 A lot of kids grow up and rebel from that kind of training as well; don\u2019t they?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Absolutely. And we heard from student after student, who was in our study, that what their parents did well is\u2014they let their kids come to own their own faith because, if we just try to impose our faith on our kids, it\u2019s going to be like a jacket that never changes who they are. To really have kids come to internalize the faith, we have to ask the kind of questions that lets them think, lets <em>them<\/em> wrestle, and live with some tension\u2014meaning that we might not be able to come to an easy answer or resolution about a particular Scripture passage or a particular cultural issue. That\u2019s okay. The conversation is ongoing in our family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of the biggest challenges that parents are expressing to me is, \u201cHow do I raise a child, who has his or her own convictions, and heads out into a culture that is not going to reward my son or my daughter for standing firm about what the Bible teaches about an issue?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>How do you get a Daniel, who is going to live in Babylon, and still fear the God of Israel?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Well, let me tell you what I\u2019m doing with my own kids to try to instill that sense of them being Daniel in the midst of a hostile culture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNumber one, I\u2019m praying for them. I pray for my kids holistically every morning\u2014I pray for them physically, spiritually, emotionally. I ask God to show me how to pray for my kids. There is one of my kids, in particular, who I feel like God has said I need to pray for <em>boldness<\/em> for that child. I am very much living that out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBack to the power of family conversations\u2014I\u2019ve been praying for my kids since they were born\u2014before they were born, even. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy kids often see me praying. But what I wasn\u2019t doing\u2014until our research came about\u2014is I wasn\u2019t talking with my kids about what I was praying for them. They knew I was praying for them, and that is certainly very meaningful. I was modeling prayer\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>\u2014very meaningful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>But I finally started saying to my kids, \u201cHey, can I show you what I\u2019m praying for you?\u201d\u00a0 They see the pages in my prayer journal\u2014where I\u2019m praying for them. So, I would say: Number one\u2014it starts with prayer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNumber two\u2014be encouraging with our kids about the unique gifts that they have. My son, in particular, is an athlete and how he can be a leader in the midst of him being an athlete. So, that\u2019s number two. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNumber three\u2014just how important it is that, when our kids struggle to be that salt and light, that we are that safe place for them\u2014that we offer them forgiveness, acceptance, and a sense that God is still working in them and through them, even if on one particular day they didn\u2019t stand up for that joke that was inappropriate and say something to a friend about a joke that really crossed a line. Our kids are going to, sometimes, not correct that joke. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>And for us to say to our kids: \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 I sometimes struggle at work\u2026\u201d or \u201cI sometimes struggle at the grocery store; and here is how I\u2019m continuing to grow, even in the midst of my struggles.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think that\u2019s excellent\u2014I really do. I think parents need to be encouraged to pray the right thing and ask God how to pray for their kids. They need to be developing their gifts and teach them how to respond in the midst of tough circumstances. There are issues today, where your kids are going to run into friends, who are coming from homes who do not believe like your home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Or they may be coming from Christian homes, but the kids aren\u2019t embracing\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, that starts in junior high\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and even younger now. What are you going to do in those situations?\u2014I mean, without getting into the specifics of what the issue is. To me\u2014I think parents today need encouragement to equip their children with the truth to know how to stand strong and to also know how to stand while loving other people compassionately. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>It\u2019s <em>hard<\/em> to be a teenager on a campus today\u2014public\/private\u2014I don\u2019t care what kind of campus it is. It is <em>really<\/em> hard. Sometimes, I see my kids do it well. My son was telling me that, at the lunchroom, he and his eighth-grade friends\u2014somebody said a curse word at a lunch period. The teacher said, \u201cOkay, everybody\u2019s going to stay here until we figure out who said that swear word.\u201d\u00a0 A number of the boys said, \u201cWell, it wasn\u2019t Nathan because he never swears.\u201d\u00a0 I thought: \u201cAlright!\u00a0 Good! He\u2019s known as a kid who doesn\u2019t swear. He\u2019s, at least, doing that well.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut there are a lot of ways where I know my kids are struggling with knowing how to fit into culture and how to be that salt and light. I think one of the ways that I try to most proactively support them is help them have friends who can stand with them. I\u2019m <em>very<\/em> intentional in the kind of friendships that are developed at school and the kind of families that I make sure that we spend time with\u2014whether it\u2019s at school or whether it\u2019s at a church because I was a high school student too. It made all the difference when I had one other Christian friend on campus, or those friends in the youth group, that we could talk to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Trying to do it alone is really hard. Part of what we can do, as parents, is help our kids <em>not<\/em> be alone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, do you say, \u201cYes,\u201d and \u201cNo,\u201d to whom their friends can be?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Well, I\u2019m\u2014I have to be a little bit more covert than that!\u00a0 I mean, especially now that they are older; but I certainly say, \u201cWell, why don\u2019t we have So-and-so over?\u201d\u2014it\u2019s who I am extra proactive with that tends to make a difference. Now, once my kids start driving, it\u2019s going to be a little bit hard to control that; but until they start driving, a lot of who they spend time with is still <em>largely<\/em> influenced by me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, let\u2019s say that, at your kid\u2019s school\u2014it\u2019s back to school time. There is going to be the big \u201cSee You at the Pole\u201d thing; and all of the Christian kids are getting there. You say to your son, \u201cSo, are you going early Thursday for See You at the Pole?\u201d\u00a0 He goes: \u201cNo. The kids who go to that are just\u2014uh.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>\u201cThey\u2019re the dorky kids,\u201d or whatever it might be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Do you just let that go; or do you say, \u201cI\u2019m driving you to See You at the Pole.\u00a0\u00a0 You\u2019re going to see me at the pole because I\u2019m going to see you at the pole!\u201d?\u00a0 What do you do?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>\u201cWe will stand there together if it\u2019s just the two of us!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s right!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>You know, what I would say to my son, if that happened is, \u201cWell, I\u2019ll tell you what\u2014is Luke going?\u201d\u00a0 Then, what I would probably do is\u2014I would text Luke\u2019s mom and say, \u201cHey, how about if we both encourage our sons?\u201d\u00a0 You know, Luke is Nathan\u2019s Christian friend, who is at his non-Christian campus. If the two of them are going, then, all of a sudden, there is more momentum there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would <em>not<\/em> force my child, as a teenager, to take a stand like that publicly; but I would try to maneuver as much as I could, behind the scenes, so that he has that positive social support\u2014and even positive peer pressure to show up for that flag pole, or do that book report on <em>The Screwtape Letters<\/em>, or whatever it might be that lets him be a light in the midst of a sometimes dark world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m not even sure if kids are gathering at the pole. I may be ten years out of date. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>It still happens. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It still happens. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>It still happens; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, are you doing anything to prepare your kids for\u2014not the coming persecution\u2014but the present persecution? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are only going to be two kids\u2014those who fit in and those who don\u2019t. Have any of your kids been persecuted?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Well, they certainly get left out of things and feel left out. Everybody is going to a party, and they don\u2019t invite my son because they know that he wouldn\u2019t like it. Everybody\u2019s going to an R-rated movie, and they don\u2019t invite my son. It hasn\u2019t so much been overt persecution as it\u2019s been left out of some of those more cultural, iconic experiences. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>These are days when parents want to know\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cHow do I do this?\u201d\u00a0 It\u2019s not a matter of skirting the issues\u2014it\u2019s a matter of genuinely equipping our children to know how to stand strong in a culture that will punish them for standing firm.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. The verse that\u2019s coming to mind in this complicated conversation about persecution and helping our kids stand up for truth is 1 Peter 3:15-16: \u201cBut in your hearts, regard Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cYet, do it with gentleness and respect.\u201d\u00a0 I love that <em>balance<\/em> there that we get in that passage\u2014there is boldness, but there is also a gentleness and respect. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>One of the things that I pray every day for our kids\u2014in fact, Dave and I\u2014we have the same prayer that we pray every night <em>with<\/em> and <em>for<\/em> our kids to the point that they have it memorized\u2014is that one of the phrases in there is that they will be leaders, and learners, and people of gentle strength. I think that is what is needed in our culture\u2014is strength, and a passion, and a conviction\u2014but paired with gentleness and tenderness. That\u2019s what we are trying to instill at home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And they need that today if they are going to be, not just survivors of the culture, but able to stand strong and grow up and become an adult, who is going to have to that as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s a different day. I think, if there isn\u2019t a spiritual awakening that sweeps across our nation, these kinds of discussions are going to become increasingly important because this country is not moving in a conservative direction toward the Bible\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014it\u2019s moving away from it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and we have a responsibility, as moms and dads\u2014whatever direction the broader culture is moving, we have a responsibility to train up our kids in the fear and admonition of the Lord to present a clear gospel to them, to love them, to be Jesus\u2019 representatives, introducing them to God the Father\u2014I think what you\u2019ve outlined in your book, <em>The Sticky Faith Guide for Your Family<\/em>\u2014practical ways that we can do this, as parents. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I\u2019ll just let our listeners know here\u2014we\u2019ve got copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com to request your copy of <em>The Sticky Faith Guide for Your Family<\/em>; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY and order the book by phone. So, again, online\u2014it\u2019s FamilyLifeToday.com. The phone number is 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd this might be a good spot for me to also acknowledge some listeners who have a big milestone today. This would be Ed and Sylvia Tropp, who live in Oxford, Mississippi\u2014listen to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> on WCRV out of Memphis. They are celebrating 44 years of marriage together today. \u201cCongratulations!\u201d to the Tropps. And by the way, I think the Tropps were part of the team that brought <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> to their community\u2014and, maybe, even the <em>Stepping Up<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> series as well. Good partners with us\u2014regular listeners to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014and 44 years of marriage together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are all about anniversaries, here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We believe that, when a marriage is rooted and grounded in Christ and when the gospel is the foundation of your marriage, you can thrive as a family. When that happens, more couples celebrate more anniversaries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Here, at FamilyLife\u2014we are celebrating our 40<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary as a ministry. We started in 1976, but the anniversaries we care most about are <em>your<\/em> anniversaries. In fact, we\u2019ve got some ideas on how this year can be your best anniversary ever. Leave us your anniversary day and date when you go to our website, at FamilyLifeToday.com. We\u2019ll share with you some ideas we\u2019ve got about how you can make this a very special anniversary in 2016. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those of you who make all of this possible\u2014those of you who support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> with your donations. You can make a donation, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY; or you can mail a donation to us at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd when you make a donation today, be sure to request a copy of the book from Francis and Lisa Chan called <em>You and Me Forever<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ll send that out to you, along with a CD of a conversation we had with the Chans when they were here recently. That\u2019s our thank-you gift when you make a donation in support of the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I was thinking about the fact that we started this conversation with Kara Powell talking about: \u201cHow do you deal with doubt when a child comes and has questions about doubt?\u201d I thought, for sure, that the reason that Dennis wanted to engage in that conversation is so that he could share with you the quote he has shared most often on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> in 23 years. I don\u2019t think there is anything you\u2019ve quoted more often than this particular quote; do you think?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well\u2014and it\u2019s because it was at a real formative time in my faith. It was given to me by a man who grew up in Brooklyn. He was a preacher\u2019s son, in a gang, who met Christ listening to the radio. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Nice. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>His name was Tom Skinner. He became the chaplain of the Washington Redskins. I had the privilege of driving him all over campus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe was probably one of the first African American speakers ever to speak at our Baptist church. Our pastor\u2014I didn\u2019t realize how heroic and what a pioneer he was in doing that at the time. But he [Tom Skinner] began and ended each of five messages with this quote: \u201cI spent a long time trying to come to grips with my doubts when, suddenly, I realized I better come to grips with what I believed. I have since moved from the agony of questions that I cannot answer to the reality of answers that I cannot escape. And it\u2019s a great relief.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat hit me so between the eyes as, a young man\u2014just the freedom to have doubts, but the exhortation to move from doubt to determine what you believe, and to bet your life on it instead of waffling on the fence for the rest of your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It needs to be sticky; doesn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It does need to be sticky. And I want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d to Kara Powell for your work on this book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m glad we finally got you here\u2014have heard about you for a number of years and just grateful for your work at Fuller. Trust you\u2019ll come back and join us again sometime. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>I\u2019d be delighted to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cThanks,\u201d to our listeners for joining us today as well. Hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together this weekend in church. And I hope you can join us back on Monday. We\u2019re going to talk about faith again, but we\u2019re going to talk about what genuine biblical faith looks like. Dr. Crawford Loritts joins us as we explore authentic faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. If you\u2019ve benefited from the broadcast transcripts, would you consider <a href=\"http:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/donate\">donating today<\/a> to help defray the costs?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tCopyright <sup>\u00a9<\/sup> 2016 FamilyLife. 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Kara explains that when young people explore their doubts, it leads to maturity.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2016-01-29.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Do you find that your kids don\u2019t want to engage with you in any kind of spiritual conversations?\u00a0 Kara Powell has some thoughts about that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Kara: <\/strong>What we, as parents, tend to do is\u2014we tend to ask our kids questions about <em>their<\/em> faith: \u201cHow was church?\u201d\u2014we say in the minivan ride home\u2014\u201cHow was youth group?\u00a0 What did you talk about?\u00a0 What did you learn?\u201d\u00a0 And depending on your kid\u2019s mood, personality, relationship with you\u2014you might get an answer; you might get a short answer; you might get an eye roll and, \u201cLeave me alone, Mom,\u201d\u2014depending on where your kid is at. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt is a good thing for us, as parents, to keep asking those questions of our kids\u2014but what is as important and much less practiced\u2014isn\u2019t just that we, basically, interview our kids\u2014but that we share ourselves, organically, about <em>our<\/em> faith journey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Friday, January 29<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. How can moms and dads have conversations with their kids that lead their kids in the right direction, spiritually? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re going to explore that today. Hope you can stay with us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us. I have, many times, quoted out of context 3 John, where the Bible says, \u201cI have no greater joy than to know that my children are walking in the truth.\u201d\u00a0 And I say it\u2019s out of context because John is talking about his spiritual children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>He\u2019s not talking about his physical children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>But they can be our spiritual children. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>They can be, and there is no greater joy for a mom or a dad\u2014and probably no greater <em>pain<\/em> for a mom or dad than when your kids are off in the far country; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. And we have with us somebody to talk about that. Dr. Kara Powell joins us. Kara, welcome back. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>It\u2019s wonderful to be here!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>She\u2019s written a book called <em>The Sticky Faith Guide for Your Family: Over 100 Practical and Tested Ideas to Build Lasting Faith<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Dennis likes practical and tested. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I do. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>He\u2019s big on that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I do. I think the average parent needs to know how to think right and they need a good philosophical background; but most parents just need somebody to put their arm around them and say, \u201cHere are five ways you can help build faith in your kids.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>You\u2019re raising three, right now. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>What\u2019s the biggest challenge you are facing in raising two teenagers?\u2014as I recall, one that is an emerging teenager in Southern California. What\u2019s the biggest challenge you are facing?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>The first thing that comes to my mind when you asked that question is: \u201cHow to make sure I stay connected with my kids\u2019 hearts in the midst of an often frenetic and, at least, always busy family schedule.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And the implication there\u2014if you\u2019re not connecting with your kids, you can\u2019t pass on your faith to your kids. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes, in the midst of our research\u2014I <em>love<\/em> practical ideas, and we\u2019ll certainly unpack those\u2014one of the things that\u2019s been most challenging to me and encouraging to me is just to stay heart-connected to my kids\u2014that I have those times to really listen and talk with them about who they are \/ what they are struggling with. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat is gold!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>To that point, one of the things I struggled with, as a high school student, going off to college, were doubts. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I don\u2019t remember opening myself up to my mom or dad about my doubts. It wasn\u2019t that they were particularly unsafe to talk about this. I\u2019m not sure I felt like doubts were a fair point of discussion with anybody in the church. It was like: \u201cYou shouldn\u2019t talk about your doubts. That\u2019s anti-faith. What are you going to do with that?\u201d\u00a0 But I was struggling with it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019ve found that doubts can be a key to the door to open your child\u2019s heart and to build their faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Well, you\u2019re certainly not alone in having tough questions about God and doubts. Our research indicates that about 70 percent of high school seniors have <em>significant<\/em> questions about God and faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Here\u2019s what I\u2019m observing, though, that\u2019s a little concerning. It seems to me, not with young people as much as, maybe, with 20-somethings. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere seems to be almost a celebration of doubt and skepticism\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014an elevation of this like, \u201cYou\u2019re not really authentic if you don\u2019t doubt.\u201d\u00a0 It\u2019s almost like, \u201cIf you don\u2019t doubt, and if you have faith, we think you\u2019re probably a phony.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Right. And that\u2019s where I think what Dennis was saying earlier is so important\u2014that in our research, we found that, when young people have the opportunity to express and explore their doubts, that\u2019s actually correlated with greater faith maturity. In other words, doubt isn\u2019t toxic to faith\u2014silence is. But Bob, you\u2019re pointing out another extreme, which is to say: \u201cWe kind of throw up our hands and say, \u2018Well, what can we know?\u00a0 Let\u2019s just kind of sit and be mired in all of our tough questions.\u2019\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs a parent, one of the phrases that has really helped me with my own kids\u2014and it helps me find that balance between finding a safe space to talk about doubts but still pointing to the truth of what I <em>do<\/em> know about God\u2014is four words. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThese are four words we recommend that parents use, starting when their kids are young up through the 20\u2019s\u2014like you\u2019re talking about\u2014and I\u2019ve used this when my kids will come to me with their tough questions. It is this: \u201cI don\u2019t know, but\u2026.\u201d\u00a0 \u201cI don\u2019t know, but here\u2019s what I do know to be true about God.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>And I\u2019ll tell you\u2014Romans 5:3 and 4\u2014in the midst of my kids and our family experiencing suffering and seeing people close to us experience suffering\u2014that is often what we have pointed to\u2014my husband and I, when we say: \u201cBoy, we don\u2019t know why our dear friend died of cancer prematurely\u2026\u201d \u201cWe don\u2019t know why God would allow that plane to crash; but we do know suffering leads to perseverance, perseverance to character, and character to hope.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat\u2019s one anchor we try to use with our own family to find that balance of being a safe place but still knowing the rocks of our faith that we can stand upon. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I had the opportunity, a number of months ago, to be teaching through the life of Joseph in church. We were in the middle of the story of Joseph and his brothers. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI was making the point that\u2014here was evil that was visited on Joseph by his brothers; and yet, God, in His divine sovereignty, had allowed these things and had actually been using these for His own purposes. We all know that at the end of the story, Joseph says, \u201cYou meant it for evil; God meant it for good.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tA young woman in our church wrote me a note and she said: \u201cI\u2019m struggling with this. How can God hold people accountable for the evil that they\u2019ve done if He\u2019s using it for His purposes and if it\u2019s under His divine sovereignty?\u201d You know, it\u2019s the tension that we all are aware of\u2014between human responsibility and divine sovereignty. I wrote her back and I said: \u201cYou\u2019re struggling with this. Good. Welcome to the club\u201d\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cof people who have struggled with this for centuries.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>And I tried to do what you\u2019re describing, which is to say: \u201cI don\u2019t think anybody\u2019s going to answer all your questions on this. And if you need all of them answered in order to trust God, you\u2019re probably going to be frustrated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut here is what I do know\u2026\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes; exactly. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And I was able to unpack: \u201cI know this\u2026\u201d and how all of that works together. I think, someday, we\u2019ll get a better picture of that than we have today; but for now, we walk by faith and not by sight. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And we really do have to be okay with our kids struggling\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014with their faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Better that they struggle with their faith under your roof\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014than leave your house, dutifully nodding their heads, all the way through adolescence into college. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. And that we, as parents\u2014we\u2019re in process too. It\u2019s not just our kids who are in process. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, <em>Sticky Faith<\/em> has changed my parenting. Every day, I parent differently. I think this whole area of parent\/child faith conversations is the most tangible way my parenting has changed. So, whether it\u2019s doubt or other topics related to faith\u2014let me illustrate for a moment the biggest shift I\u2019ve made, as a parent, based on our research. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, Dennis, let\u2019s say that you\u2019re my child. What we, as parents, tend to do is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014we tend to ask our kids questions about <em>their<\/em> faith: \u201cHow was church?\u201d\u2014we say on the minivan ride home\u2014\u201cHow was youth group?\u00a0 What did you talk about?\u00a0 What did you learn?\u201d\u00a0 Depending on your kid\u2019s mood, personality, relationship with you\u2014you might get an answer; you might get a short answer; you might get an eye roll and a, \u201cLeave me alone, Mom,\u201d\u2014depending on where your kid is at. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Well, what our research suggests is\u2014it is a good thing for us, as parents, to keep asking those questions of our kids\u2014but what is as important and much less practiced\u2014isn\u2019t just that we, basically, interview our kids\u2014but that we share ourselves about <em>our<\/em> faith journey. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cLet me tell you what I learned at church this morning. It was really powerful,\u201d\u2014that kind of thing. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Exactly!\u00a0 And before our research, we would, as a family, talk about what we learned at church. Literally, Dave and I would ask our three kids, \u201cWhat did you learn?\u201d\u00a0 Then, we prayed as a family; and Dave and I never shared what <em>we<\/em> learned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>We were totally missing that opportunity. So, one of the questions that we ask now at the dinner table with our kids is, \u201cHow did you see God at work today?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd when we first raised that question, one of our daughters was about eight. She said, \u201cWell, Mommy\/Daddy, I can\u2019t answer that question.\u201d\u00a0 \u201cReally? Why not?\u201d\u00a0 She said, \u201cWell, I don\u2019t have a job,\u201d\u2014\u201cHow did you see God <em>at<\/em> <em>work<\/em> today?\u201d\u00a0 [Laughter]\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut then, when we reframed it\u2014\u201cOkay, how did you see God working?\u201d\u2014<em>all<\/em> of us \/ Dave and I included\u2014answer that question. I\u2019ve got to be honest\u2014I don\u2019t always <em>love<\/em> the theology that comes out of my kids\u2019 mouths: \u201cI saw God work because we won the kickball tournament today!\u201d\u00a0 Eventually, we will deconstruct that. [Laughter] But at this time in their development, we just, not only want <em>them<\/em> to share with us how they saw God at work\u2014and sometimes, they say they didn\u2019t really see God at work today; and that\u2019s okay too. But we want them to hear Dave and me talking, every day, how we saw God at work that day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. We\u2019re talking with Kara Powell today, who is the author of the book, <em>The Sticky Faith Guide for Your Family<\/em>, on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I think it\u2019s important for parents, here, to know these kinds of conversations need to be handled with care. It is\u2014when a child comes and says, \u201cI have a question about this,\u201d\u2014and the parent either shrugs it off, or ignores it, or minimizes it\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014that\u2019s problematic\u2014but it can be equally problematic for the parent to become the one-man apologetic, \u201cLet me lock this down tight for you, and give you all of the right answers, and get you boxed in so you\u2019re thinking correctly.\u201d\u00a0 A lot of kids grow up and rebel from that kind of training as well; don\u2019t they?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Absolutely. And we heard from student after student, who was in our study, that what their parents did well is\u2014they let their kids come to own their own faith because, if we just try to impose our faith on our kids, it\u2019s going to be like a jacket that never changes who they are. To really have kids come to internalize the faith, we have to ask the kind of questions that lets them think, lets <em>them<\/em> wrestle, and live with some tension\u2014meaning that we might not be able to come to an easy answer or resolution about a particular Scripture passage or a particular cultural issue. That\u2019s okay. The conversation is ongoing in our family. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>One of the biggest challenges that parents are expressing to me is, \u201cHow do I raise a child, who has his or her own convictions, and heads out into a culture that is not going to reward my son or my daughter for standing firm about what the Bible teaches about an issue?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>How do you get a Daniel, who is going to live in Babylon, and still fear the God of Israel?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Well, let me tell you what I\u2019m doing with my own kids to try to instill that sense of them being Daniel in the midst of a hostile culture. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNumber one, I\u2019m praying for them. I pray for my kids holistically every morning\u2014I pray for them physically, spiritually, emotionally. I ask God to show me how to pray for my kids. There is one of my kids, in particular, who I feel like God has said I need to pray for <em>boldness<\/em> for that child. I am very much living that out. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBack to the power of family conversations\u2014I\u2019ve been praying for my kids since they were born\u2014before they were born, even. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tMy kids often see me praying. But what I wasn\u2019t doing\u2014until our research came about\u2014is I wasn\u2019t talking with my kids about what I was praying for them. They knew I was praying for them, and that is certainly very meaningful. I was modeling prayer\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>\u2014very meaningful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>But I finally started saying to my kids, \u201cHey, can I show you what I\u2019m praying for you?\u201d\u00a0 They see the pages in my prayer journal\u2014where I\u2019m praying for them. So, I would say: Number one\u2014it starts with prayer. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNumber two\u2014be encouraging with our kids about the unique gifts that they have. My son, in particular, is an athlete and how he can be a leader in the midst of him being an athlete. So, that\u2019s number two. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNumber three\u2014just how important it is that, when our kids struggle to be that salt and light, that we are that safe place for them\u2014that we offer them forgiveness, acceptance, and a sense that God is still working in them and through them, even if on one particular day they didn\u2019t stand up for that joke that was inappropriate and say something to a friend about a joke that really crossed a line. Our kids are going to, sometimes, not correct that joke. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>And for us to say to our kids: \u201cYou know what?\u00a0 I sometimes struggle at work\u2026\u201d or \u201cI sometimes struggle at the grocery store; and here is how I\u2019m continuing to grow, even in the midst of my struggles.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think that\u2019s excellent\u2014I really do. I think parents need to be encouraged to pray the right thing and ask God how to pray for their kids. They need to be developing their gifts and teach them how to respond in the midst of tough circumstances. There are issues today, where your kids are going to run into friends, who are coming from homes who do not believe like your home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br><strong>Bob: <\/strong>Or they may be coming from Christian homes, but the kids aren\u2019t embracing\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well, that starts in junior high\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes; right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014and even younger now. What are you going to do in those situations?\u2014I mean, without getting into the specifics of what the issue is. To me\u2014I think parents today need encouragement to equip their children with the truth to know how to stand strong and to also know how to stand while loving other people compassionately. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>It\u2019s <em>hard<\/em> to be a teenager on a campus today\u2014public\/private\u2014I don\u2019t care what kind of campus it is. It is <em>really<\/em> hard. Sometimes, I see my kids do it well. My son was telling me that, at the lunchroom, he and his eighth-grade friends\u2014somebody said a curse word at a lunch period. The teacher said, \u201cOkay, everybody\u2019s going to stay here until we figure out who said that swear word.\u201d\u00a0 A number of the boys said, \u201cWell, it wasn\u2019t Nathan because he never swears.\u201d\u00a0 I thought: \u201cAlright!\u00a0 Good! He\u2019s known as a kid who doesn\u2019t swear. He\u2019s, at least, doing that well.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tBut there are a lot of ways where I know my kids are struggling with knowing how to fit into culture and how to be that salt and light. I think one of the ways that I try to most proactively support them is help them have friends who can stand with them. I\u2019m <em>very<\/em> intentional in the kind of friendships that are developed at school and the kind of families that I make sure that we spend time with\u2014whether it\u2019s at school or whether it\u2019s at a church because I was a high school student too. It made all the difference when I had one other Christian friend on campus, or those friends in the youth group, that we could talk to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Trying to do it alone is really hard. Part of what we can do, as parents, is help our kids <em>not<\/em> be alone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, do you say, \u201cYes,\u201d and \u201cNo,\u201d to whom their friends can be?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Well, I\u2019m\u2014I have to be a little bit more covert than that!\u00a0 I mean, especially now that they are older; but I certainly say, \u201cWell, why don\u2019t we have So-and-so over?\u201d\u2014it\u2019s who I am extra proactive with that tends to make a difference. Now, once my kids start driving, it\u2019s going to be a little bit hard to control that; but until they start driving, a lot of who they spend time with is still <em>largely<\/em> influenced by me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So, let\u2019s say that, at your kid\u2019s school\u2014it\u2019s back to school time. There is going to be the big \u201cSee You at the Pole\u201d thing; and all of the Christian kids are getting there. You say to your son, \u201cSo, are you going early Thursday for See You at the Pole?\u201d\u00a0 He goes: \u201cNo. The kids who go to that are just\u2014uh.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>\u201cThey\u2019re the dorky kids,\u201d or whatever it might be. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Do you just let that go; or do you say, \u201cI\u2019m driving you to See You at the Pole.\u00a0\u00a0 You\u2019re going to see me at the pole because I\u2019m going to see you at the pole!\u201d?\u00a0 What do you do?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>\u201cWe will stand there together if it\u2019s just the two of us!\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>That\u2019s right!\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>You know, what I would say to my son, if that happened is, \u201cWell, I\u2019ll tell you what\u2014is Luke going?\u201d\u00a0 Then, what I would probably do is\u2014I would text Luke\u2019s mom and say, \u201cHey, how about if we both encourage our sons?\u201d\u00a0 You know, Luke is Nathan\u2019s Christian friend, who is at his non-Christian campus. If the two of them are going, then, all of a sudden, there is more momentum there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI would <em>not<\/em> force my child, as a teenager, to take a stand like that publicly; but I would try to maneuver as much as I could, behind the scenes, so that he has that positive social support\u2014and even positive peer pressure to show up for that flag pole, or do that book report on <em>The Screwtape Letters<\/em>, or whatever it might be that lets him be a light in the midst of a sometimes dark world. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I\u2019m not even sure if kids are gathering at the pole. I may be ten years out of date. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>It still happens. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It still happens. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>It still happens; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, are you doing anything to prepare your kids for\u2014not the coming persecution\u2014but the present persecution? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are only going to be two kids\u2014those who fit in and those who don\u2019t. Have any of your kids been persecuted?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Well, they certainly get left out of things and feel left out. Everybody is going to a party, and they don\u2019t invite my son because they know that he wouldn\u2019t like it. Everybody\u2019s going to an R-rated movie, and they don\u2019t invite my son. It hasn\u2019t so much been overt persecution as it\u2019s been left out of some of those more cultural, iconic experiences. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>These are days when parents want to know\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cHow do I do this?\u201d\u00a0 It\u2019s not a matter of skirting the issues\u2014it\u2019s a matter of genuinely equipping our children to know how to stand strong in a culture that will punish them for standing firm.\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. The verse that\u2019s coming to mind in this complicated conversation about persecution and helping our kids stand up for truth is 1 Peter 3:15-16: \u201cBut in your hearts, regard Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cYet, do it with gentleness and respect.\u201d\u00a0 I love that <em>balance<\/em> there that we get in that passage\u2014there is boldness, but there is also a gentleness and respect. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>One of the things that I pray every day for our kids\u2014in fact, Dave and I\u2014we have the same prayer that we pray every night <em>with<\/em> and <em>for<\/em> our kids to the point that they have it memorized\u2014is that one of the phrases in there is that they will be leaders, and learners, and people of gentle strength. I think that is what is needed in our culture\u2014is strength, and a passion, and a conviction\u2014but paired with gentleness and tenderness. That\u2019s what we are trying to instill at home. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And they need that today if they are going to be, not just survivors of the culture, but able to stand strong and grow up and become an adult, who is going to have to that as well. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think it\u2019s a different day. I think, if there isn\u2019t a spiritual awakening that sweeps across our nation, these kinds of discussions are going to become increasingly important because this country is not moving in a conservative direction toward the Bible\u2014 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014it\u2019s moving away from it. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, and we have a responsibility, as moms and dads\u2014whatever direction the broader culture is moving, we have a responsibility to train up our kids in the fear and admonition of the Lord to present a clear gospel to them, to love them, to be Jesus\u2019 representatives, introducing them to God the Father\u2014I think what you\u2019ve outlined in your book, <em>The Sticky Faith Guide for Your Family<\/em>\u2014practical ways that we can do this, as parents. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I\u2019ll just let our listeners know here\u2014we\u2019ve got copies of the book in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com to request your copy of <em>The Sticky Faith Guide for Your Family<\/em>; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY and order the book by phone. So, again, online\u2014it\u2019s FamilyLifeToday.com. The phone number is 1-800-358-6329. That\u2019s 1-800-\u201cF\u201d as in family, \u201cL\u201d as in life, and then the word, \u201cTODAY.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd this might be a good spot for me to also acknowledge some listeners who have a big milestone today. This would be Ed and Sylvia Tropp, who live in Oxford, Mississippi\u2014listen to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> on WCRV out of Memphis. They are celebrating 44 years of marriage together today. \u201cCongratulations!\u201d to the Tropps. And by the way, I think the Tropps were part of the team that brought <em>The Art of Marriage<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> to their community\u2014and, maybe, even the <em>Stepping Up<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> series as well. Good partners with us\u2014regular listeners to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>\u2014and 44 years of marriage together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe are all about anniversaries, here at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. We believe that, when a marriage is rooted and grounded in Christ and when the gospel is the foundation of your marriage, you can thrive as a family. When that happens, more couples celebrate more anniversaries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<br>Here, at FamilyLife\u2014we are celebrating our 40<sup>th<\/sup> anniversary as a ministry. We started in 1976, but the anniversaries we care most about are <em>your<\/em> anniversaries. In fact, we\u2019ve got some ideas on how this year can be your best anniversary ever. Leave us your anniversary day and date when you go to our website, at FamilyLifeToday.com. We\u2019ll share with you some ideas we\u2019ve got about how you can make this a very special anniversary in 2016. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd we want to say, \u201cThank you,\u201d to those of you who make all of this possible\u2014those of you who support the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> with your donations. You can make a donation, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY; or you can mail a donation to us at <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; our zip code is 72223. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd when you make a donation today, be sure to request a copy of the book from Francis and Lisa Chan called <em>You and Me Forever<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ll send that out to you, along with a CD of a conversation we had with the Chans when they were here recently. That\u2019s our thank-you gift when you make a donation in support of the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou know, I was thinking about the fact that we started this conversation with Kara Powell talking about: \u201cHow do you deal with doubt when a child comes and has questions about doubt?\u201d I thought, for sure, that the reason that Dennis wanted to engage in that conversation is so that he could share with you the quote he has shared most often on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> in 23 years. I don\u2019t think there is anything you\u2019ve quoted more often than this particular quote; do you think?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Well\u2014and it\u2019s because it was at a real formative time in my faith. It was given to me by a man who grew up in Brooklyn. He was a preacher\u2019s son, in a gang, who met Christ listening to the radio. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>Nice. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>His name was Tom Skinner. He became the chaplain of the Washington Redskins. I had the privilege of driving him all over campus. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tHe was probably one of the first African American speakers ever to speak at our Baptist church. Our pastor\u2014I didn\u2019t realize how heroic and what a pioneer he was in doing that at the time. But he [Tom Skinner] began and ended each of five messages with this quote: \u201cI spent a long time trying to come to grips with my doubts when, suddenly, I realized I better come to grips with what I believed. I have since moved from the agony of questions that I cannot answer to the reality of answers that I cannot escape. And it\u2019s a great relief.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat hit me so between the eyes as, a young man\u2014just the freedom to have doubts, but the exhortation to move from doubt to determine what you believe, and to bet your life on it instead of waffling on the fence for the rest of your life. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>It needs to be sticky; doesn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It does need to be sticky. And I want to say, \u201cThanks,\u201d to Kara Powell for your work on this book. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m glad we finally got you here\u2014have heard about you for a number of years and just grateful for your work at Fuller. Trust you\u2019ll come back and join us again sometime. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Kara: <\/strong>I\u2019d be delighted to. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u201cThanks,\u201d to our listeners for joining us today as well. Hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together this weekend in church. And I hope you can join us back on Monday. We\u2019re going to talk about faith again, but we\u2019re going to talk about what genuine biblical faith looks like. Dr. Crawford Loritts joins us as we explore authentic faith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. 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