{"id":303826,"date":"2016-01-12T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-01-12T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/%series%\/frustration-ahead\/"},"modified":"2016-01-12T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2016-01-12T17:00:00","slug":"frustration-ahead","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/wp-stage.familylife.com\/www\/podcast\/familylife-today\/frustration-ahead\/","title":{"rendered":"Frustration Ahead"},"content":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jennifer Smith remembers her joyous wedding day. 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She had no idea that just hours after saying \"I do,\" her hopes and dreams for a romantic honeymoon would be challenged.","meta_box":{"show_notes":"","transcript_url":"https:\/\/transcript.familylifetoday.com\/fl2016-01-12.pdf","transcript_content":"<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Aaron and Jennifer Smith faced an unexpected challenge right after they were married when they learned that Jennifer experienced tremendous physical pain anytime the two of them were intimate with one another. Doctors had no explanation for the pain. The lack of physical intimacy in their marriage spilled over into every other aspect of their relationship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Because we weren\u2019t physically intimate, our marriage wasn\u2019t being fulfilled how we thought it should be. It amplified <em>everything<\/em>\u2014to talking about our finances or decisions that we were making for \u201cWhere would we live?\u201d or the things that we were doing\u2014our jobs\u2014any decision that we had to make, and then, in our <em>attitudes<\/em>. It came out in our attitudes toward one another and how we were treating one another. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This is <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> for Tuesday, January 12<sup>th<\/sup>. Our host is the President of FamilyLife<sup>\u00ae<\/sup>, Dennis Rainey, and I\u2019m Bob Lepine. What happens in a marriage relationship when the two coming together as one just isn\u2019t working at all? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>1:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019ll explore that with Jennifer Smith today. Stay tuned. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd welcome to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Thanks for joining us on the Tuesday edition. Let me quickly, before we dive into what we\u2019re going to talk about today, remind our listeners about the special offer that we\u2019ve got for listeners. This week and next week, <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> listeners are invited to join us at an upcoming FamilyLife <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em><sup>\u00ae<\/sup> marriage getaway. If you register for yourself, this week or next week, your spouse comes free. It\u2019s the best offer we make all year on the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaway. It\u2019s a buy one \/ get one free opportunity. It\u2019s good this week or next week when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com and register or when you call 1-800-FL-TODAY to register over the phone. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd let me just say\u2014the <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> is a <em>great<\/em> weekend getaway for couples. You\u2019ll get practical biblical information about God\u2019s design for marriage\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>2:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014about the issues that couples face in a marriage relationship. More often than not, what people tell me when they come to a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em>\u2014if they are older couples, they say, \u201cWe wish we had come here years ago,\u201d and younger couples often say, \u201cThis is exactly what we needed as we are going through some of these challenges in our marriage relationship.\u201d And no matter how good your marriage is\u2014there are challenges that you\u2019re going to face as you go through married life together. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tSo, again, if you want to sign up for an upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaway\u2014sign up this week or next week\u2014you pay for yourself and your spouse comes absolutely free. We hope you\u2019ll take advantage of that. We\u2019d love to see you at one of our <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaways. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, the subject we are going to talk about today\u2014I think, Dennis, sometimes, we can give people the impression that if a young couple\u2014a dating couple\u2014will do everything right during their engagement period, that, somehow is going to guarantee you\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>3:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014happily ever after. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes: \u201cIf you will follow this procedure\u2014make sure you don\u2019t live together, you don\u2019t sleep together, you honor your parents, and you do it the right way\u2014that means marriage is going to be perfect for you.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>It means that\u2014in order for that to occur, you have to have two robots marrying each other with no backgrounds. [Laughter]\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>No real human beings. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No real human nature within their own hearts and no struggle over their own selfishness. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tJennifer Smith joins us again on <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. She heads up a ministry called The Unveiled Wife\u2014a web-based ministry. She and her husband, Aaron, live in Oregon with their two children. She has written a book by the same name as her ministry: <em>The Unveiled Wife: Embracing Intimacy with God and Your Husband<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, it\u2019s an unveiled book because you are telling the truth about your own story in a way that\u2019s pretty revealing. You guys decided, early on, that if you were going to help others with the struggles you went through, you were going to have to be honest about what you faced; right?\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>4:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Absolutely. We together talked about our story and sharing it with other people. My husband gave me the green light and supported me in sharing our story. It was hard\u2014it was really hard to be that open about what we went through. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Who was the person who was most encouraging to you to do it?\u00a0 Was it Aaron?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>It was Aaron; yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Really?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>He saw the need; and he saw how it could encourage others to hang on to their marriage and to have hope because, sometimes, all we need is that little bit of hope for the next day, and the next day, and the next day. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did you think, like I described, that as long as you handled engagement right\u2014because you <em>did<\/em>\u2014you handled it about as well as anybody could. Were you thinking, \u201cIf we play by the rules on this side of marriage, then, God will give us joy, and peace, and blessing on the other side,\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Absolutely\u2014absolutely, I did think that way. I had all these expectations of how and why God should bless our marriage and our relationship because I did all the right things, growing up, and into our relationship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>5:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI really had a hard time with that when our marriage hit those hard places and brought devastation and frustration in my heart. I immediately brought those to the Lord, but I did it in a way that was almost disrespectful. I said, \u201cWhy is this happening when I did this, this, and this for You?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Let me take you back to your wedding day because that was a pretty\u2014it was a magical day; wasn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Oh, totally. I remember just getting up for that day with so much joy. I knew that my life was going to change and I thought \u201c\u2026for the better,\u201d obviously. I was so\u2014just excited to be at that altar with my husband. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Did you have any fear about the honeymoon night?\u00a0 Did you and Aaron talk about that and discuss fears you might both have had about that?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Yes. I don\u2019t remember us talking too much about it or about our expectations; but we both went into it <em>very<\/em> hopeful \/ very excited to finally embrace this love that we\u2019ve been waiting for and wanting to fulfill our relationship that way. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>6:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe were both going into it, thinking, \u201cThis is going to be awesome!\u201d\u00a0 <br>\u00a0\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You had had to fight temptation during your\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014dating?\u00a0 It wasn\u2019t like, while you were engaged, there was no desire. You were both ready for that night. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>We were very ready. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>But the honeymoon night did not go the way either of you had hoped it would go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Not at all. It was full of pain, and tears, and frustration. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>All because there was physical pain as you tried to consummate your marriage?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Yes. So, we got to the place where we were staying\u2014and kind of prepared ourselves and\u2014you know, bringing in the suitcases and unpacking a little bit. Then, we just went for it, so to speak. I experienced a lot of physical pain. It was like, \u201cThere is no way I\u2019m ever going to get passed this,\u201d\u2014that is how it <em>felt<\/em>. I remember stopping and going to the bathroom and just feeling so inadequate as a wife. I already felt like, \u201cI can\u2019t even fulfill this role that I\u2019ve been wanting for so long.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Had you been to an OB doctor before you got married?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>7:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>I did. It was actually for a surprise kind of physical ailment that I had year-and-a-half prior; but everything seemed fine. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And you had no reason to think, heading into your honeymoon night, that there was going to be any difficulty. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Nope. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>So this, all of a sudden, takes both of you completely by surprise as you\u2019re trying to, again, consummate your love and your marriage. You went to the bathroom. You were in tears. You felt inadequate. How did Aaron respond to what was going on?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>He was so gracious and so patient. He just looked at me, and kind of laughed, and jokingly said: \u201cDon\u2019t worry. We have the rest of our lives to figure this out.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 And we both just said, \u201cWe don\u2019t want it to take that long,\u201d but \u201cYou know, I\u2019m in this for you and with you.\u201d\u00a0 He was so patient. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And were you thinking that night that: \u201cOkay, we\u2019ll relax. Tomorrow will be a different day,\u201d and \u201cI\u2019m sure other couples struggle, maybe, the first time out; but we\u2019ll be able to make this work tomorrow,\u201d?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>That\u2019s what we thought; yes. We went to bed that night\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>8:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014we prayed. We surrendered our relationship to the Lord\u2014our marriage. We were so happy that we were finally married. We just thought, \u201cMaybe, tomorrow will be different.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And it wasn\u2019t?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>It wasn\u2019t. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, what you would have thought would have been easy was, not only difficult, but painful. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And not just the honeymoon night\u2014but the next day \/ the next day\u2014the same experience. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>How did you begin to process that, as a wife?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>It was very difficult. I began already feeling the isolation and wanting to pull away because I anticipated the pain. Going into your day thinking, \u201cI don\u2019t want to be physically intimate with my husband,\u201d is really hard and challenged me and my role as a wife. I remember just thinking, \u201cI don\u2019t want to have to keep doing this.\u201d Those feelings came on very strongly; but then, I had to reinforce that\u2014you know, what my husband said when he proposed to me\u2014that God has a purpose for our relationship and purpose for our marriage. So, there was this huge tug on my heart of, \u201cWhat do I do now?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>In addition to this, Aaron shared with you that he had a struggle with pornography. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>9:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Did that come up here?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>We weren\u2019t talking about that issue here. When we were dating, he had brought up that it had been something that he struggled with. I just thought to myself, \u201cWell, every guy struggles with this.\u201d\u00a0 I had no experience or didn\u2019t know what the extent was to his struggle with pornography. So, I wasn\u2019t even thinking about that during this time of being recently married. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And I just want to affirm both of you for having had that discussion prior to getting married. There are a lot of couples, who engage in marriage, and don\u2019t have this discussion and don\u2019t allow one another into each other\u2019s lives around this. And this can be the guy or the gal. It doesn\u2019t have to be just a guy who struggles with pornography. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>You\u2019d had some exposure to pornography yourself; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Yes; when I was younger, I had several different incidents where I was exposed to pornography and just\u2014I actually, as a young girl, searched for it. I\u2019d be at a relative\u2019s house and I knew what was in that drawer that you shouldn\u2019t look at. The flesh is very overpowering sometimes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>10:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And let\u2019s just be realistic here. A couple who is engaged today\u2014it would be very unusual if the husband has not had some exposure to pornography. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>And it would be unusual if the wife has not had some exposure. In this culture, probably, the majority of both men and women have been exposed to that before coming in. What you are really trying to understand is, not whether there has been exposure, but has pornography gotten its tentacles in your soul?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Yes, to what extent has this been a problem?\u00a0 How often?\u00a0 How frequently?\u00a0 How long ago?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd here is where I think I\u2019d give a shout out to dads\u2014I\u2019d just say to dads: \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tFather of the bride\u2014before you give your daughter away \/ before you bless your son as he marries a young lady\u2014I say you have these conversations and say: \u201cLet\u2019s go have a long walk, son\u2026\u201d \u201cLet\u2019s go on a fishing trip...\u201d\u00a0 \u201cLet\u2019s go sit down on the back deck for a couple of hours and let\u2019s have a conversation because we\u2019re men. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>11:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u201cWe know what\u2019s happening in this culture. We know it\u2019s pervasive, but let\u2019s talk about what you\u2019ve seen,\u2019\u201d\u2014not get into the details \/ that\u2019s not the point\u2014but the point is to determine: \u201cTo what extent has this been a problem?\u201d and \u201cHow much of this are you bringing into your marriage, around expectations of your wife?\u201d because that can crush a young bride at the beginning of the relationship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes, it really can. You are listening to <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. Our guest, today, is Jennifer Smith, the author of the book, <em>The Unveiled Wife<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAs you look back on these challenging early weeks of your marriage, and the difficulties you were experiencing with intimacy, do you think Aaron\u2019s prior exposure to pornography was a factor in what you were going through at all?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>I think it definitely could have played a role because I\u2014especially in feeling inadequate. So many insecurities raise up in your heart. You start to think\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>\u2014\u201cI can\u2019t fulfill him, but I know that thing over there did; at least, at one point.\u201d\u00a0 I didn\u2019t know if he was still struggling with it when we were first married; but I remember thinking: \u201cI\u2019m not like them. I can\u2019t fulfill him. What if he goes back to it?\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>12:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI did wrestle with a lot of fear with that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tEven though we talked about it, and we were transparent about his addiction to pornography prior to getting married, we probably didn\u2019t handle it the best way because I brushed it off. I didn\u2019t engage in a very serious conversation about the matter\u2014not that we needed to talk about details about what he was doing\u2014but, when a person is in an addiction to pornography, they are actually in a relationship with lust and with\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Right. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>\u2014what\u2019s happening there. I just want to encourage people, who are engaged or in a serious relationship\u2014they need to have these conversations because they need to know\u2014if your fianc\u00e9 is in a relationship with pornography, they\u2019re not committed to you. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Okay, so, here is the picture I\u2019ve got at this point\u2014where, early in your marriage, every time the two of you try to come together for marital intimacy, it\u2019s painful for you. Your husband has had a past experience with pornography. I\u2019m guessing you are calling a doctor and thinking, \u201cI\u2019ve got to have an exam and see if there is something wrong with my body.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>13:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIs that where you were?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>My husband was there, and he encouraged me to go see a doctor; but I was intimidated. I was scared. I was embarrassed. I didn\u2019t have a lot of exposure with people checking me out\u2014so I didn\u2019t make that call for a long time. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You moved to Lynden, Washington. There was a women\u2019s clinic there. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Yes. We made an appointment to get vaccinations so that we could go to Africa because we were planning on this big mission trip. We wanted to serve God and do something great for His Kingdom. We went in for vaccinations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThat was the first time that I had asked someone else for an opinion. I told her what we were struggling with and that I experienced a lot of pain. She gave us a list of things that we could do to try and lighten the mood and relax. I just remember thinking, \u201cOkay, so, I had this list of things that I had to do in order to be intimate with my husband.\u201d\u00a0 I did try all those things, but still, it didn\u2019t work. Then, I felt even more hopeless when those things didn\u2019t help us. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You actually ended up regretting that you were married?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Yes, I did. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>14:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI had really struggled with: \u201cDid I make a mistake?\u00a0 Was God actually calling us to marriage?\u201d\u00a0 I wrestled with so much doubt surrounding our relationship. All the insecurities that I had about what we were dealing with just went through the roof. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>This was how long into the marriage?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong><em>Weeks<\/em> into the marriage that I started getting unsure of our relationship. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>And here\u2019s where\u2014and she\u2019s mentioned it a couple of times, Bob\u2014here is where I want the listeners to hear: \u201cFor a young couple like this to be isolated and to be going through something like this\u2014to not let somebody else into the interior of their lives, even as embarrassing, and as threatening, and as vulnerable as this makes you feel to have to invite somebody in and say: \u2018We\u2019ve got a problem. We need help,\u2019\u2014when you are in isolation, that\u2019s where these thoughts crop up.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>You look around at everybody else, and you assume everyone else is getting along perfectly\u2014which is <em>not<\/em> the truth. You assume you\u2019re the <em>only<\/em> one who is dealing with anything like this. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>15:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAt that point, if you had a mentor\u2014and this is one of my standard pieces of advice for young couples starting out their marriage\u2014I challenge them to begin to pray together every day when they start their marriage; but I challenge them, formally, to establish a relationship with a mentoring couple to walk them through the first year of their marriage\u2014meet together once a month. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIf you had had a couple that you knew you were going to be able to meet with\u2014you might not have not told them at the end of month one \/ maybe not at the end of month two\u2014but somewhere in the first twelve months\u2014either Aaron or you would have spilled the beans; wouldn\u2019t you?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Yes. I would totally agree with you that mentorship is so important. Aaron and I didn\u2019t know this going into marriage. So, we didn\u2019t let anyone into our relationship or to share those things. I would just encourage people that that is a very, very vital thing that we need to have a part of our lives. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>Now, when you had the thought about regretting being married, did you end up expressing that to Aaron? \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>16:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tYou\u2019re a very private person. You keep a lot of things\u2014especially, early in your marriage\u2014to yourself. Aaron is the transparent one. How long before you shared that with him?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>I remember a specific point in time where I kind of just blurted it out. It would have been about six months into marriage. We were in the airport, making our way to El Salvador; and we were still doing mission work. I was rushing through the airport to catch our flight. I just stopped, and I was weeping. When Aaron finally realized it, he came, running back to me\u2014he\u2019s like: \u201cCome on. We\u2019ve got to go. What\u2019s wrong?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI said: \u201cI think I made a mistake. You married the wrong girl. I can\u2019t keep going like this.\u201d\u00a0 Everything was mounting \/ everything was burdening my heart. I didn\u2019t know how else to respond, and I just broke. That\u2019s when I first kind of blurted it out. Even then, it wasn\u2019t really a conversation I had with him until about maybe a year-and-a-half later. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>I don\u2019t know if folks understand this; but this is not just an issue of being frustrated\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>17:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014both of you\u2014that you can\u2019t consummate your marriage because you\u2019ve not been able to fully consummate your marriage at this point; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>This spills over into every other nook and cranny\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Oh, yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>\u2014of a relationship; doesn\u2019t it?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>It amplified <em>everything<\/em>\u2014to talking about our finances, or decisions that we were making for \u201cWhere would we live?\u201d or the things that we were doing\u2014our jobs\u2014any decision that we had to make, and then, in our <em>attitudes<\/em>. It came out in our attitudes toward one another and how we were treating one another. Because we weren\u2019t physically intimate and our marriage wasn\u2019t being fulfilled, how we thought it should be, we were aggravated. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>So, Jennifer, your first story about Aaron on your honeymoon night was that he was patient. You couldn\u2019t believe how gracious he was, how patient, and how understanding he was with you, as a wife. How long before the patience turned to anger and an eruption?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>Aaron was very kind, and gentle, and patient\u2014that is the word I keep coming back to is\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>18:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014<em>patient<\/em> with me. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tIt wasn\u2019t until about three-and-a-half years into our marriage that it really got to him. I think that, if he had expressed those emotions \/ the anger and what he was really going through, earlier on, it might have forced me or motivated me to find help sooner, and to come out of my shell, and to stop being so embarrassed or insecure about finding help. Maybe, we would have found help sooner. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>I think that is an important point. I\u2019m glad you made it and not me. You know, as human beings, we experience pain. Pain is like a warning light on the dashboard\u2014it tells you: \u201cSomething is not right. You need to go get help.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd I have to say, as I read your book\u2014and again, it\u2019s easy to second guess something like this\u2014but I saw you two kind of charging off across the globe, going on mission trips; and here was a major area of your marriage that was deficit. I guess my slant on this \/ my view is: \u201cIf you\u2019ve got something <em>major<\/em> going on in your marriage, \u2018Time out!\u2019 \/ \u2018Stop!\u2019\u00a0\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>19:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAsk for help and go to the right people. Go to wise people\u2014people who have God\u2019s perspective on this. Frankly, go after it to solve it because if you don\u2019t\u2014you know, as we\u2019re going to hear\u2014problems like this can destroy a relationship to the point where there is no return.\u201d \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>If you were doing the first three-and-a-half years of your marriage over again, is that what you\u2019d do?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Jennifer: <\/strong>I would <em>totally<\/em> find help sooner. I think that one of the biggest problems that Aaron and I had was escapism. We were escaping the problems instead of facing them because we were so terrified, and unsure, and without a clue about how marriage is supposed to go. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI remember thinking\u2014now, looking back: \u201cPremarital counseling is helpful, but that post-marriage counseling is so much more vital because you have expectations going into marriage; but when you actually experience it, that\u2019s when the real talks need to happen.\u201d I think, if we had that sooner\u2014instead o running off to these different countries, or escaping into movies, or books, or whatever was dulling the pain that we were experiencing\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>20:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t\u2014we would have been reconciled a lot sooner. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>We do tell couples that we think it\u2019s a good idea for them to attend a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaway prior to getting married; but we think it\u2019s an even better idea for them to come back, a year later or two years later, and go through the same content; right?\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>No doubt about it. Anybody can handle romance. That\u2019s like falling off a cliff together\u2014\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Yes. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Dennis: <\/strong>\u2014being swept away by emotions of the perfect date \/ the perfect evening; but reality has a way of calling us to our bedrock convictions and \u201cWhat are we going to do about this?\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI\u2019m glad you said what you said, Jennifer\u2014that if you\u2019d done something earlier, it might have helped you guys instead of chasing dreams and kind of pretending like it wasn\u2019t there\u2014instead you\u2019d stop and address the needs in one another\u2019s lives because you were suffering \/ he was suffering\u2014the marriage was suffering. People in a foreign country might be able to wait \/ might be able to wait six months so that a young couple can get their marriage started on the right trajectory. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>21:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>Bob: <\/strong>Well, of course, right now, we\u2019re encouraging listeners to sign up for an upcoming <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaway because, this spring, we\u2019re going to be hosting more than 60 events all around the country. If you sign up this week or next week for one of these upcoming events, you can save 50 percent off the cost of registration\u2014when you pay the regular rate for yourself, your spouse comes free. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tGet more information about that and sign up at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY and get information over the phone. Plan to join us for one of these weekend getaways. And it may be that you\u2019ve been married, not just for a couple of years, but for a couple of decades. We think it\u2019s good for couples to get away and invest in their marriage <em>regularly<\/em> in order to keep their marriage pointed in the right direction. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, if you sign up this week or next week for a <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> getaway, you will save 50 percent off the regular cost. All the details are available at FamilyLifeToday.com, or you can call 1-800-FT-TODAY for more information. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>22:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, the website, FamilyLifeToday.com; and the toll-free number is 1-800-FL-TODAY. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe also have copies of Jennifer Smith\u2019s book called <em>The Unveiled Wife<\/em> available in our <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> Resource Center. You can order the book from us, online, or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY. If you\u2019d like to find out more about Jennifer\u2019s story\u2014about their journey during the early years of their marriage and the challenges they faced\u2014go to FamilyLifeToday.com and get a copy of <em>The Unveiled Wife<\/em> by Jennifer Smith. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, 2016 is a special year for us. As of this year, <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> has been in ministry \/ been operating for 40 years. We\u2019ll celebrate our 40<sup>th<\/sup> Anniversary this year; but honestly, it\u2019s not our anniversary that we want to focus on\u2014it\u2019s <em>your<\/em> anniversary. <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> exists to be the proud sponsor of anniversaries. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>23:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tThere are a lot of couples who will celebrate an anniversary together this year, and <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> had a role to play in that anniversary happening. In fact, we want to shout out to our friends, Dennis and Sally Payne, who live in Arvada, Colorado. They\u2019ve been married 36 years together today. The Paynes have attended four <em>Weekend to Remember<\/em> marriage getaways during their marriage. They are also friends of FamilyLife. They help support this ministry with their donations, and we\u2019re <em>grateful<\/em> for the partnership we have with them\u2014so \u201cHappy anniversary to Dennis and Sally.\u201d\u00a0 \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAgain, it\u2019s your anniversaries we are all about, here, as a ministry. In fact, we\u2019d love to help you celebrate your anniversary this year. We\u2019ve got some special ideas for what that celebration could be like. Go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com and tell us your anniversary date. We\u2019ll have some suggestions for you as the date draws near\u2014again, the website, FamilyLifeToday.com. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tAnd again, thanks to those of you who make this ministry possible through your donations. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>24:00<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tWe\u2019re listener-supported. You\u2019re the ones, together with us, who are helping more anniversaries happen every year through the ministry of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tNow, we hope you can join us back here again tomorrow. Jennifer Smith is going to join us. We\u2019re going to hear about the breakthrough that happened in her marriage\u2014how God ultimately brought them to a place where she and her husband could experience joyful marital intimacy. I hope you can tune in for that. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\tI want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I\u2019m Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of <em>FamilyLife Today<\/em>. \n\t\t\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<p>\n\t\t\t\t<em>FamilyLife Today<\/em> is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas. Help for today. 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